Hardware Store Muzzle Loading Pistol Part 2 - SHOOTING!

I lost some of my footage, but these are the main steps in finishing up and shooting my homemade black powder pistol from hardware store parts. I shot it with a very light charge in my shop. Music: Shakey Graves - Buy his amazing music here shakeygraves.bandcamp.com/ and check out his website www.shakeygraves.com One of the most amazing and versatile musicians out there :-) Used by permission of the publisher. Get the simple drawings that I made.

[@charlesdriggers199]

I must say, being a gunsmith I usually cringe at most of the homemade garbage can guns I have seen on KZbin. Yours is not the case. This was a well thought out and executed build. I like what you did.

[@SugarcreekForge]

Thank you very much, Charles. That is a great compliment coming from a gunsmith!

[@sethmullins8346]

Like all the ones from Royal Nonesuch?

[@BrightBlueJim]

Seth: Right? How is that guy still alive?

[@the_great_tigorian_channel]

I like the look of the gun but I wish he would have gone into depth about how he used a hex screw for the nipple I had to pause and observe the finished product to see it. When loading though, doesn’t it go powder, patch and then bullet? I mean, I know if shooting a black powder shot gun it goes powder, patch, shot, patch but I don’t think that’s how it goes for much else.

[@jonfox1919]

Charles Driggers. If you think making a gun barrel from off the shelf mild steel is a good idea you are a piss poor gunsmith.

[@userunavailable3095]

Do like the colonists did, take it out in the woods, tie it down to trees and rocks, tie a string to the trigger and stand a long way off. Apparently it was standard practice to load it with a double charges when shooting that way. If it withstood the double charge, it was safe for a single charge.

[@sergeantbigmac]

+userunavailable3095 What youre describing is called 'proofing'... All firearm makers do it to this day, they just have a more controlled setting ;) Im unsure about the other manufacturers but I know Ruger proofs their guns with 150% loads.

[@SugarcreekForge]

Thanks!

[@leburnham5864]

My father did that with the family's Civil War rifle. Way too much powder. (Likely a triple or quad charge). The barrel blew apart. He got one heck of a whuppin'. He survived only because he tied it in the crotch of a tree, and used a string to fire it with.

[@SugarcreekForge]

LOL - That is a great story!

[@homer5595]

Proofing of barrels is still done the same way. Double charge.

[@poncholefty471]

I love Shakey Graves. Very nice build and great music. Super enjoyable to watch

[@SugarcreekForge]

Thanks for the kind words and encouragement PL!

[@danielmcglasson8076]

Knew I heard shakey as soon as the video started. I listen to his music while out in the country and on the road and I am filled with the most magical feeling I could be filled with. The feeling of nostalgia, and the unmistakable feeling of being truly content. Whenever I have an issue, I go listen to him while creating something amazing with my time, and I will definitely roll the bones while I build my first musket.

[@SugarcreekForge]

That is so cool, Daniel. Keep me posted on your progress.

[@oneeyedjack9168]

I've loaded a few and powder, patch,then ball. The patch envelopes the ball as it's rammed on to the charge. The patch is trimmed to fit before seating the ball.

[@Madsquirrel321]

It's so beautiful to see that the righteous and the crafts skilled ones will always strive to maintain the right to keep and bear arms.

[@SugarcreekForge]

Thanks!

[@davidmaxey656]

Nice work. Love Shakey Graves

[@simonmills9427]

your a very skilled craftsman brilliant build regards from uk

[@SugarcreekForge]

Thank you, Simon. I appreciate your encouragement and taking time to leave me a comment. Cheers

[@kevzzz1186]

It is impressive to see what some people can create. Thanks for sharing.

[@SugarcreekForge]

Thanks for taking the time to leave me an encouraging comment. I really appreciate that.

[@peope1976]

I love your gun and how you made it. Wish I had the shop and tools to make one myself. Bravo!

[@SugarcreekForge]

Thanks so much for your kind words and for taking the time to leave me a comment. I appreciate it :-)

[@terranceperkins9656]

You can get a CVS kit and it wouldn't blow up in your face.

[@johnmine5609]

@@terranceperkins9656 CVA

[@AmateurRedneckWorkshop]

That was really great. Thanks for sharing.

[@Ratep123]

Thank you very much I finally found the link for templates, keep up the great work

[@nickmervosh563]

Impressive! American ingenuity and craftmanship! Bravo!

[@SugarcreekForge]

Thank you for the kind words, Nick :-)

[@abseconPC]

I am stuck with muzzleloaders because New Jersey considered a BB gun an assault weapon

[@SugarcreekForge]

I didn't know that about New Jersey, Brett. You should get a cap and ball revolver.

[@mattthomas4026]

seriously?!??!

[@abseconPC]

I live in Florida part-time I can own them in Florida but there's some states that you can't even own a cap and ball revolver Pike Pennsylvania Virginia New Jersey New York I own a cap and ball revolver back brass frame the nipples are seized but it still shoots fine last i tested it a bout year ago I am looking at the 1858 and I can do a cartridge conversion but I do not know if that would be legal

[@abseconPC]

And I was charged with a third-degree felony 3 years later still pending

[@abseconPC]

Add New Jersey cap and ball revolvers must go through National background check and you need a pistol permit

[@juanmanuelmarchioli]

That smile at the end of the vid... great vid!

[@SugarcreekForge]

+juan manuel marchioli Thanks, Juan

[@a.j.rusinek8856]

that came together very nicely tim, amazing work !

[@SugarcreekForge]

+A.J. Rusinek Thanks very much, A.J. :-)

[@Absaalookemensch]

Nice project and great job. We used an old door to make the stock for an old WWII military rifle we converted to 308 Winchester. It's not pretty, but as a test project it succeeded and has never failed despite several thousands of rounds of full pressure 308 Win loads and 25 years.

[@SugarcreekForge]

That is very cool :-)

[@mohawksteel2215]

nice job Captain Bliye , nice job.

[@texaslonestarrider]

Very cool Tim and a beautiful job!

[@SugarcreekForge]

+lonestarrider Thanks, Rex

[@sausagehead9151]

Nicely done. I am impressed. Both beauty and function.

[@SugarcreekForge]

Thank you! I appreciate the encouragement :-)

[@californiacowboy3936]

that was absolutely amazing congratulations dude most homemade guns look like some cobbled-together pipe bombs this though actually look like a professional kit

[@SugarcreekForge]

Thanks very much for your kind words. That is what encourages me to keep making videos. Have a great weekend!

[@RDPproject]

Fantastic Tim.... *VERY well done mate* Thats just sooo cool.....

[@SugarcreekForge]

+RDPproject Thanks, Rob

[@MrFloydthomas757]

Great work, I would love to see a follow up if you decide to give it a finish. loved the song by the way.

[@SugarcreekForge]

Thanks, Floyd!

[@z-trip5457]

Wow, very, very impressive work, well done!

[@SugarcreekForge]

Thanks :-)

[@entrad157]

A beautiful job, well done!

[@SugarcreekForge]

Thanks very much, Nate.

[@Stoney327]

I'm amazed that you still have both eyes and all your fingers? As a 50 year black powder man, I've seen boughten barrels blow up and they were made of the correct steel, not mild junk steel from hardware stores. They say God watches out for Children and fools. That being said... nice job. MacGyver would be proud. Dave Pappy Dave's Knives

[@SugarcreekForge]

Haha, I am too old to be a child, Dave. So I must fit into the latter category :-). Wanting to keep my fingers and eyes, I did check the PSI rating for both the liner and the black iron pipe before I fired it. I have ample strength for the light loads I shot. But, one can never be too careful... I don't want to tempt that protection. Have a great week.

[@Stoney327]

Glad to hear that you checked out the PSI rating BEFORE you shot it. I used to tie mine to a tree and use a rope to pull the trigger. I built a 69 caliber smooth bore Tower pistol that shot a 300 grain bullet back in 1975 and that's how I tested it. I couldn't even find a bullet mold so I made my own. I was terrified of it before that first shot :~))))) God bless. Dave

[@billwessels207]

Gunsteel is mild steel not some secret formula.

[@deandeann1541]

If it's a secret, you would know?

[@zacmorgenstern7370]

@@billwessels207 High tensile strenght mild steel but yes - mild steel.. If I would every would have to rely on the rubbish steel grades sold in DIY stores I would go at least double wall thickness for the target pressure... just my thought...

[@bensamule3252]

that is so cool now I want to make one

[@jmfa57]

That was inspiring. Thanks for sharing this!

[@SugarcreekForge]

I am really glad that you liked it! Thank you for taking the time to leave me an encouraging comment. I appreciate it. Have a great weekend.

[@GottliebGoltz]

I saw an article in a Popular Mechanics years ago showing how to build a black powder rifle using a steering column from an old car. Yup.

[@maplehouseknives]

Simply amazing!

[@SugarcreekForge]

+Maplehouse Knives and Bushcraft Thanks, buddy :-)

[@zacharylindahl]

Holy cow this is amazing! I would love to figure out how to make one of these in .177 to fire pellets. Beautiful work

[@SugarcreekForge]

lol Thanks, Zachary. I think that would be super cool. I saw a rifle that shot .22 pellets. I am not sure if it could be done or not.

[@phuque8369]

Cool tune. Great creativity.

[@SugarcreekForge]

Thanks, buddy.

[@ar-gaming9014]

Um so with your hammer itcomes down hits nipple and cap like normal but bith that bolt did you drill straigh down to the middle the drill long ways in or how does fle spark travel from the nipple to the powder though the bolt i

[@drzewolejhvjgvwnoposting8734]

great work!

[@professorpewpuew]

I cant wait to see more of this one :)

[@SugarcreekForge]

+mark3smle Thanks :-)

[@knoxi82]

Just got a thumbs up! What a cool project

[@SugarcreekForge]

+knoxi82 Thanks, Knoxi!

[@Tamlin73]

Realy cool pistol :) Best regards from Norway

[@SugarcreekForge]

Thank you, Jon :-)

[@nickhighland799]

you're an excellent craftsman sir

[@SugarcreekForge]

Thanks, Nick!

[@CSGSurvival]

Very cool mate. Very cool. I love the smell of black powder firearms. It's just a whole different feeling from modern firearms.

[@SugarcreekForge]

Thanks CSGS. It was a lot of fun to make

[@theangelofdream9995]

It's very good nice work you also have great taste in music

[@SugarcreekForge]

Thanks, Alex. I appreciate the kind words.

[@burnedatbirth]

Who thumbs down this?. Come on already. This is how freedoms were won.

[@SugarcreekForge]

Thanks :-)

[@CaptainGameGuru]

anti Gun folks i guess

[@icyuranus404]

the music was overbearing

[@shonaoneill5151]

Icy Uranus Yeah....This guy is really strange, for example......His taste in music for one. Secondly his channel is called Sugar Creek forge, which sounds okay BUT this fella has the skills of a dead wildebeest! He's meant to be a blade smith? Don't make me laugh! He cannot sharpen a frigging chisel! The gun looked like it was made by a retarded ten year old....just like everything else he attempts. It's cute really.....those merry cans, even when they know they are shit at things, they keep on trying (and failing at EVERYTHING!) It's kinda like they (including the author) enjoy being the butt of the world's jokes. I mean, who gives themselves the choice of Trump/Clinton? Only in America lol, poor deluded dumb fucks ha ha ha ha

[@sandrojones8068]

*Sigh*

[@nickwoo2]

Awesome Tim!

[@SugarcreekForge]

+nickwoo2 Thanks, Nick

[@th3thin9]

Beautiful!

[@SugarcreekForge]

Thanks

[@Dav624]

Improvised firearms are an art

[@SugarcreekForge]

True that, Dave. And making them is fun and stress relieving! Have a great week.

[@gorp27]

That is a really nice build.

[@SugarcreekForge]

Thanks!

[@donlester645]

This is really cool Tim.

[@SugarcreekForge]

+Don Lester Thanks, Don!

[@zzador]

That's beauty of a musket-gun. I would sand the edges at bottom a little bit more to make the wooden parts rounder like the ones made by historic gun makers. Will start a similar project in my coming freetime. Will go for a flintlock instead.

[@SugarcreekForge]

Thanks, Paul. That is a good pointer. Please keep me posted on your progress. I have been wanting to make a flintlock sometime too.

[@liamnathanielsoriano9153]

this man’s got Napoleon proud

[@johnharris6589]

great video love the music

[@SugarcreekForge]

Thanks, John!

[@jasonr6273]

very cool. awesome work

[@SugarcreekForge]

Thanks, Jason.

[@Tater79bj]

Nice work my friend!

[@SugarcreekForge]

Thanks, buddy

[@brucerobson7173]

It looks soo easy lol . Really liked the videos ... wish I could do that

[@SugarcreekForge]

Thanks, Br. I am glad that you liked them. It has always been fun for me to make things. Even some things that seem complicated can be made if you just are patient and do it little by little. Have a great weekend

[@mmmmkay3062]

Wow i love your gun and how you made everything by hand! Well done. May i ask what and how you installed for the nipple for the percussion cap?

[@user-hr9sk9pp8l]

A typical solution to the problem in a rustic way.

[@SugarcreekForge]

Yes. Thanks :-)

[@albertifergan6506]

incedible build/ . thank you. i am not clear how you built the primer chamber/nipple. if you can clarify that would be appeciated.

[@jdefabs2112]

Very nice ,sure you can buy kits to make these ,but it so much more awesome when you did it all from the ground up :)

[@SugarcreekForge]

Thank you!

[@willtosurvive2843]

Must be nice to have all those tools available to play around with.

[@SugarcreekForge]

It really is. It took me awhile to get them. I made knives, sold them, saved up the money and slowly bought tools. Have a great week!

[@powderslinger5968]

What "all those tools" are you talking about? He built the thing with NOTHING! This is a great demonstration that you can build a weapon with nothing but a drill and a file!

[@archbishop8719]

So awesome!

[@SugarcreekForge]

Thanks!

[@dias_se]

Very skillful! Thanks! 👍

[@SugarcreekForge]

You are very welcome. Thanks for taking the time to leave me a comment

[@NothingBootz]

nice background music. cool old gun refrabication

[@SugarcreekForge]

Thanks for the kind words, buddy. I appreciate it.

[@thebrokenbone]

hi! beautiful job! i love muzzle loaders too, always wanted to make one never had the nerve... oh well. since you lost some video i hope you don`t mind a few questions, did you weld a bung to the barrel to thread the primer chamber or just threaded the pipe? what charge and type of powder did you use? that type of indoor shooting is what i`m aiming to. thanks for sharing. hope the questions don`t get too far. cheers. pete

[@SugarcreekForge]

+thebrokenbone Hi Pete. Thanks very much. I am glad that you liked it. I threaded the barrel for the breach plug. I also threaded the bolt that I used for the primer chamber/nipple. I used black powder and about 7 grains.

[@manbearpig2164]

Awesome job

[@SugarcreekForge]

Thanks, Paul :-)

[@sergeantbigmac]

You should make a firing video where you test different real loads! Youve made me want to make one too, the only thing id change is grip angle which is a personal preference.

[@SugarcreekForge]

+sergeantbigmac Thanks, buddy. I copied an original historic design. The angle certainly could be changed to match what you like.

[@pheenix42]

Other than your finger on the trigger in that end picture, good build and I'm glad I watched.

[@SugarcreekForge]

Thanks, Alonzo. If you look closely, that was during the build and the nipple is not installed. Completely inert at that stage. But, it is always good to keep fingers off the trigger. Have a great weekend.

[@pheenix42]

Ahhhh, I see. No worries, then, I'm seriously thinking of building one of these for myself.

[@joetech2013]

cool gun, great work

[@SugarcreekForge]

Thank you

[@michaelscreen6921]

Amazing work sir, congratulations. What did you use for a percussion cap? Did you make the spring? I really like the music as well. Do you have a playlist? Ahhh….I see it above,thanks

[@SugarcreekForge]

Hi Michael - Thank you. I am glad that you enjoyed the videos. I made some percussion out of aluminum foil and paper toy gun caps, but I am able to buy percussion caps very cheaply. I bought the springs and only had to modify one of them for the trigger return spring.

[@johnchristopherrobert1839]

Great job

[@SugarcreekForge]

Thanks, John :-)

[@robplotts9412]

Really sweet man.was that solder or braze on the barrel band.

[@SugarcreekForge]

Thanks. It was solder

[@allcommiescaneatshitanddie2604]

Love that music track

[@SugarcreekForge]

Thanks, buddy :-)

[@user-ce3vn7fy3g]

What song

[@fattboyzz1355]

You gonna post us a range report video with all the details ? I for one would love to see it :0). .. great job on this whole project !

[@SugarcreekForge]

+Joseph Barge Thanks very much!

[@leburnham5864]

I'd like to suggest that you put the powder in first, THEN the lubricated patch with the ball wrapped in it.. (The patch does little good being placed last in the barrel, if you design the barrel to fit the bullet properly.) You don't want a lot of airspace between the powder & the ball. Bad things can happen. OTT, Great build.

[@SugarcreekForge]

Thanks!

[@frantisekvohnik2816]

U have done a nice work :)

[@SugarcreekForge]

Thank you very much

[@kaziklu79]

Awesome!

[@SugarcreekForge]

+kaziklu79 :-)

[@michaelchen8643]

I like the stock design I think it’s classy even though it’s not smooth and finished in a refined way

[@SugarcreekForge]

Thanks, Michael. I appreciate your kind words

[@danielovard]

did you do any rifling to the pipe?

[@SugarcreekForge]

No

[@FUNSTUF456]

at this point I'm just here for Shakey Graves.

[@bowlofrice8]

Shakey Graves nice choice

[@SugarcreekForge]

Thanks, Drew

[@sychosebi2000]

What was the total cost of the Materials? Awesome project by the way

[@SugarcreekForge]

Thank you very much. I am guessing $20

[@Ktulu345]

Is there any way you could link me to a parts list? I wasn't able to quite tell what everything was from the video, but will give it a few more years. Thanks! Great gun!

[@SugarcreekForge]

I don't have a parts list, but if you look in the description I have a link to some of the parts I drew

[@craftymaggot]

thanks...really good work..

[@SugarcreekForge]

Thanks

[@allentremper8243]

Did you double up on the barrel? It seems like you slipped on piece of pipe into another piece of pipe, which is a good idea, definitely beef's up the strength of the barrel, but I am not sure if that is what you did or not,kinda hard to tell. Would appreciate your input, thanks, very nice build!!!

[@SugarcreekForge]

Hi Allen - Yes, that is exactly what I did. Thanks for leaving me a comment and your kind words.

[@MrWhatdoyouthinkof]

Did you leave it as a smooth bore ? And do you have any plans to make a riffled barrel perhaps thicker next time ?

[@SugarcreekForge]

Yes, I left it smooth. No... I don't have any plans like that.

[@jerrshobe6765]

thanks for making this video

[@SugarcreekForge]

You are very welcome, Jerr. Thanks for taking the time to leave me an encouraging comment!

[@IsaacRoth]

that's awesome!

[@SugarcreekForge]

+rothhawk45 Thanks, buddy :-)

[@PimpinArianto]

Nice

[@OrionsAnvil]

nice job!

[@SugarcreekForge]

+OrionsAnvil Thank you!

[@derekthiessen9495]

you think you could do a bb version? nice music by the way .

[@davidhamilton9129]

how many grains was that load?I am thinking of converting my denix baby derringer to a real one,I found a barrel that is still in perfect condition but I haven't gotten any black powder yet

[@SugarcreekForge]

Very small charge. I think it would be wise for you to consult some BP pressure charts before you try anything like that. It can be very dangerous.

[@zachs652]

How did you close off the end of the barrel where you stuff the powder and ball into? Did you weld it or put a nut in the end of it?

[@SugarcreekForge]

I tapped threads into the barrel and then screwed in a breach plug.

[@LeadDennis]

Nice job.

[@SugarcreekForge]

Thank you

[@robertlombardo8437]

Question. What kind of bolt was that breach plug at the rear of the barrel made of? Did you have to thread the inside of the barrel to put that in there?

[@SugarcreekForge]

Hi Robert. I just used a common bolt. I didn't want to use one that was hard. I did thread the inside of the barrel. I just used a hand tap and got a few nice turns of the threads.

[@jtkunzie]

Very clever.

[@koendejong1294]

Im not that familliar with this kind of gun, but how does it ignite? Does the hammer create sparks? And do you have to make a hole to the side of the barrel zo it can reach the powder? Also, cool how you answer (most) questions! cool build

[@SugarcreekForge]

Thank you. It is percussion cap pistol. It uses a metal cap that goes over a hollow nipple. When the hammer hits the cap, it detonates and sends sparks down the tube onto the powder in the chamber. Here is a link that will help explain it more. guns.wikia.com/wiki/Caplock

[@koendejong1294]

Oh thanks, i will check that out

[@hacinihousseyn9770]

Excellent

[@SugarcreekForge]

Thank you :-)

[@nunyabeeznis4657]

Nice video & music. What, exactly, is the barrel made from? Also the primer seating into the gun barrel?

[@SugarcreekForge]

It is made from a piece of steel tubing inside a piece of water pipe. I tapped a hole into the barrel and threaded a small bolt that I drilled a hole through the middle. I drilled and tapped the bolt and screwed in a drilled through screw and shaped that into the percussion cap nipple.

[@nunyabeeznis4657]

Thank you very much. If you have or ever make a video of how the barrel was made I'd like to see it.This was still one of the best videos I have ever seen. The sound,resolution,clarity & stability are excellent compared to any others. You could teach how to make a quality youtube video. I'll be looking at all your videos. You earned my Best of youtube award.

[@SugarcreekForge]

Thank you so much for the kind words!

[@pierre5325]

Dear SugarcreekForge person, I really enjoyed this video. I should like to make a black powder pistis for myself. I very liked as well the marvelous music. Thank you, pierre from New Mexico p.s. I have subscribed to your channel

[@SugarcreekForge]

Gracias, amigo :-)

[@user-rg7bn1rv8n]

Good!

[@SugarcreekForge]

Спасибо :-)

[@alexgertz827]

best pirate ive ever seen

[@SugarcreekForge]

Haha, thanks, Alex! I am glad that you like it 🙂

[@MiguelDiaz4469]

Very awesome build! not too different than how it might have been done 2-plus centuries ago. Thanks for sharing.

[@SugarcreekForge]

You are very welcome, Miguel. Thanks for leaving me a comment.

[@stephenhaldane594]

wow that gorgeous. not that I can have one in this country.

[@SugarcreekForge]

Thank you, Stephen