AMAZING mATX Cases are Back!

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@CastIronEric
@CastIronEric Жыл бұрын
mATX.. the forgotten middle child.
@Medsas
@Medsas Жыл бұрын
speak for yourself, all my friends built matx…
@CastIronEric
@CastIronEric Жыл бұрын
ITX outshined it due to the fact that if you are building mATX, it's because you're looking to build something minimal and for a while, ITX didn't offer full feature sets. However, now those boards do and have for quite a while.
@BenyaminLorit
@BenyaminLorit Жыл бұрын
In the western market perhaps. In Asia, it never left.
@1ncandescence737
@1ncandescence737 Жыл бұрын
I agree, I searched for so long but still didn't find a good matx case. There are very few choices when it comes to parts compatible with itx cases and they are all much more expensive.
@aerosw1ft
@aerosw1ft Жыл бұрын
@@BenyaminLorit mainly because it's cheaper than ATX.
@dracer35
@dracer35 Жыл бұрын
I love M-ATX. Never understood why it gets neglected so much. This case looks pretty decent.
@achannelhasnoname5182
@achannelhasnoname5182 Жыл бұрын
I can tell you the reason. The size difference between ATX and mATX mainboards is very small. So this could have been an ATX compatible case if it was just a few cm higher.
@fran2911
@fran2911 Жыл бұрын
@@achannelhasnoname5182 The size difference between ATX and mATX is the same as mATX and ITX thought, so you can make the same argument
@dracer35
@dracer35 Жыл бұрын
@@achannelhasnoname5182 I'm well aware. I have built many ATX, mATX, and ITX systems. I still believe there's no one size fits all. Different people like different builds. For some, they want smaller than ATX even if it's only slightly but need more IO than what's on an ITX board. Or for others they don't need everything that's on an ATX board so if they can get an mATX board for $20-30 cheaper, they are super happy. More options is better. Last thing we want it to be forced into only having one size.
@SamLoki
@SamLoki Жыл бұрын
@@achannelhasnoname5182 My o11 air mini absolutely supports ATX, but I need to go mATX (which I prefer anyway) to have a top mounted AIO along with bottom fans for the GPU. overall the case looks much more filled this way
@kaspervendler1726
@kaspervendler1726 Жыл бұрын
Its amazing, I did 2 builds for cusins in it each with artic 360 AIO and atx PSU. Its also possible to fit a third 120mm fan in the bottom intake, but it definently needs a fan gril for it to be sensible.
@thetechrealist
@thetechrealist Жыл бұрын
Finally, more nice case designs for M-Atx! I transitioned to M-Itx mostly because there were absolutely zero good looking cases that were practical. I ended up with the nr200 which I found was the least limiting M-Itx case but I definitely would have considered this and the fractal pop!
@ResidentWeevil2077
@ResidentWeevil2077 Жыл бұрын
I currently run a build in an NZXT H1 V2. It gets warm, but that's inherent to Ryzen 7000 processors. It's one of the best systems I've built yet.
@arewealone9969
@arewealone9969 Жыл бұрын
@@ResidentWeevil2077 what gpu are you running?
@ResidentWeevil2077
@ResidentWeevil2077 Жыл бұрын
@@arewealone9969 I actually switched CPUs since my previous comment to an i5-13400F paired with an Arc A770 LE 16GB card. The 7700X I still have was swapped into a black NZXT H1 V2 case and paired with an MSI RX 6750 XT Mech 2X 12GB card. Both rigs use 32GB DDR5 dual channel modules, though the Intel rig can only run at 4800MT/s; the AMD rig runs at 6000MT/s.
@gkato
@gkato Жыл бұрын
I thought it was just me but from the comments it seems that a lot of people still have love for mATX cases. For me it's the best size and it really should be the default for everyone. It has the only full bandwidth people really use for their GPU, enough space for ventilation, so no concerns like ITX cases, enough length for most GPUs, smaller footprint, enough to put the case on top of the table and of course the cheapest motherboards.
@kevinmoehring8259
@kevinmoehring8259 Жыл бұрын
I agree. I went ITX when I built my last pc, but mATX every time prior. My old enclosure was a Fractal Mini R2. So it had soooo much flexibility. I use it as a NAS now, so since there's no GPU, I can have 6 3.5" drives, 2 2.5" drives and 1 m.2 ssd. That's an insane amount of storage. Even with a full sized GPU, you can can still have 3 3.5" drives and 2 2.5" drives. SLI/Crossfire isn't really a thing anymore, a lot of motherboards have multiple m.2 slots and built in wifi. I don't get the appeal of ATX nowadays unless you're trying to go super over the top.
@NightMotorcyclist
@NightMotorcyclist Жыл бұрын
I refused to jump onto the Mini ITX craze and decided mATX was the better compromise of small footprint but still enough expansion available.
@DDHDTV
@DDHDTV Жыл бұрын
right? I only started to question my mATX when I saw that the 4 slot GPUs nowadays would actually have it kinda tight now in my NR400
@Real_MisterSir
@Real_MisterSir Жыл бұрын
Honestly I never understood why regular ATX formfactor is the most popular one. Parts are more expensive, for 95% of people the extra connectivity will never be used, and the only benefit from a case-perspective is that they're perhaps a bit easier to build in and you can support 360mm aio rads etc without much difficulty no matter what price range you buy from. But why is this the standard? I do not know.
@NightMotorcyclist
@NightMotorcyclist Жыл бұрын
@@Real_MisterSir In the older days it made sense as less things were integrated on the motherboard due to still rather large processes in manufacturing chips. Many PCs had separate add-in boards for specific tasks which was slowly being done away with as more things became integrated into the chipset or the CPU itself. Kinda the same reason it is still the platform of chioce for quite a few enthusiasts today as they can load it down wit more add-ins like more NVMe drives, SATA drives, GPU, Capture cards, sound cards etc. An ATX sized tower also has plenty of space for multiple radiators or tricked out custom loops or just more space to cable manage. mATX is a good compromise for those who don't need as much add-ons and would take a smaller footprint that still offers some expandability as opposed to Mini ITX systems.
@vailpcs4040
@vailpcs4040 Жыл бұрын
I have one on my bench right now and I've successfully been able to invert the layout by drilling out the 15 rivets holding the rear panel and mobo tray. I had to trim a little bit of material off the rear panel to allow the rivets to align with the top of the case, as well as trimming the motherboard tray lip to accommodate the side panel press-mounts, but it actually works and I'm working on installing dual 360 rads in a custom loop. I was able to re-rivet the case back together and it's hard to tell that it didn't come that way. It's ridiculous how much fits in this case and I love it. Note: Jonsbo sells a variant (D31 Mesh) with a built-in monitor too!
@zephyr.r
@zephyr.r Жыл бұрын
sick, would you post a quick video showing the build?
@vailpcs4040
@vailpcs4040 Жыл бұрын
@@zephyr.r I'm in the process but YES, I'm documenting it for my channel and I'll note when it's up.
@vailpcs4040
@vailpcs4040 Жыл бұрын
@@zephyr.r I put a quick community post on my channel with pics of the dry fit process and some notes on making it work.
@ShivaanshPrasann
@ShivaanshPrasann Жыл бұрын
Update: this case has a TG version. I own one and it’s awesome! The rear panel is still mesh so you can swap the TG and mesh to get both looks, so I think that’s the way to go. Thank you hardware Canucks for covering this case.
@ArneMandell
@ArneMandell Жыл бұрын
Using four $0.02 nylon washers as standoffs usually solves fan noise - I started doing this on all my builds as it also helps to isolate NVH.
@elmalloc
@elmalloc Жыл бұрын
ok
@mohd5rose
@mohd5rose Жыл бұрын
What is NVH?
@mk3030
@mk3030 Жыл бұрын
Noise vibration harshness
@p.e.r.c.y
@p.e.r.c.y Жыл бұрын
It can help but a lot of the issue come from having the fan blades too close to the mesh. A spacer would be the best bet to quieten them down.
@alexanderpopov3587
@alexanderpopov3587 Жыл бұрын
Thank you for the great review, this seems a nice case. The water cooling right on top of the PSU gives me anxiety though.
@MrJhawk27
@MrJhawk27 Жыл бұрын
I just finished my daughter's build in this case and loved it. Plenty of room. 360 aio is a snap to put in. I am running the max 6 fans and there is some vibration on the lower fans, but the rubber washers eliminate the vibration. Great review. I agree with everything you pointed out. Thanks.
@JohWong
@JohWong Жыл бұрын
I've been literally looking at this case for months and waiting for a big fish to review it. I decided to buy it yesterday and picked it up today in store and then I see this! Thank you for diving into it. I feel you about the psu mounting options and I think I might just take that weird cover off, but for my first matx case, I'm super stoked. Compared to my lian li mini - it's shorter, narrower but longer and I'm excited to move my stuff into its new home... eventually.
@kristianbylard8135
@kristianbylard8135 Жыл бұрын
I really hope we get more mATX cases in the future that get as much attention as the other two form factors.
@SmokeBloody
@SmokeBloody Жыл бұрын
I got this case a couple of months ago. I spent so much time choosing the most practical case and I am pretty happy with my choice! Things that I love: - No tools needed to remove the outer plates. - No stupid RGB lighting - No unpractical glass doors that add weight but are just to show off your RGB lighting - Mesh plates that help to ventilate the case - It's long enough to fit a full-sized GPU (Zotac RTX 3080 in my case) - USB-C port on the fron panel - Quite lightweight - The price is pretty reasonable (Cost me about $80 USD) Things that I didn't like (because of the mesh walls): - The walls get dusty quite fast - The noise level is probably higher than with more enclosed cases.
@conprika540
@conprika540 Жыл бұрын
I gonna buy this case,can I ask you do you see any problems of this case ?
@HondoJarrus
@HondoJarrus Жыл бұрын
@@conprika540 It's an amazing case but the front I/O USB cable is pretty thick. I had to get a right-angle adapter for the USB header on my Aorus B550 Pro-P motherboard otherwise the cable kept interfering with the fans on the GPU. Dust could also be be a problem long term depending on your environment; it might need get the dust blown out regularly. That said, it's gorgeous, it fits my Sapphire Nitro 6700XT no problem, and everything stays really cool. Great case.
@yeahfelix
@yeahfelix Жыл бұрын
holy crap i have the exact same gpu and am planning to do a m-atx build for the first time! the aesthetics that come with this case are so pleasing and the fact that you could just carry the pc through your house is cool. its also not obnoxiously big and, as you said, not an rgb explosion.
@SmokeBloody
@SmokeBloody Жыл бұрын
@@conprika540 Sorry for the late reply. The only small downside for me was that cable management is something you'll have to spend your time on in this case. Also, not exactly a con but I added 2x140mm and 2x120mm fans but they lowered the temperature only by a couple degrees Celsius, probably because the mesh walls are doing a good job at ventilating the case already.
@YoukoZuki
@YoukoZuki Жыл бұрын
One more reason: there is a glass-side variant of this case too. Still have all of other sides being mesh so still ventilate enough :D
@jonathanellis6097
@jonathanellis6097 Жыл бұрын
I bought the prime case about 6 weeks ago. Very pleased with it. Great cooling with negative pressure setup, and very quite.
@danielvipin7163
@danielvipin7163 Жыл бұрын
I have placed the order for mine. is 3 fans setup as negative pressure enough for an air cooled build. cpu is i5 13500 and gpu is 3060ti.
@luu_hainam
@luu_hainam Жыл бұрын
I'm wondering about the dust situation. Is it bad with all that mesh side panel or it's acceptable? Really want to hear ur opinion cause i'm in love with this case.
@danielvipin7163
@danielvipin7163 Жыл бұрын
@@luu_hainam i am planning on clear taping the rear panel fully, and some spots to reduce this.
@z4k1_zaki65
@z4k1_zaki65 Жыл бұрын
@@luu_hainam Just like those mesh itx cases (I have the Meshlicious) I just wipe the panels once a month is actually enough, don't have to fiddle around any mesh filters
@jonathanellis6097
@jonathanellis6097 Жыл бұрын
I havent really had it long enough to comment on the dust situation. The side pannels come off super easy so it should be quick and easy to dust the system as needed. I do put a cover over it when its not in use as well.
@kevinlim7974
@kevinlim7974 Жыл бұрын
Hope to see more mATX cases in future 👍 I feel that they are the ideal form factor for the 'intermediate-tier' users, as they are essentially like ATX but without the additional PCI-e expansion slots. They aren't so monstrous and imposing as ATX.
@The_Chad_
@The_Chad_ Жыл бұрын
About freakin time! I have always loved m-ATX, and that is especially true now that most ATX boards barely have 3 expansion slots on them. I just don't get how most people don't find 4-5 slots to be perfect. It gives you 2 slots for a sensible GPU, a slot for a sound card, one for a RAID or capture card and maybe one more for anything else like expanded USB or WiFi/BT card. Now if we could just get some premium m-ATX motherboards again instead of all of them being budget boards now days. I still have multiple ASUS ROG GENE boards in use and they have more functionality than about any m-ATX board you can buy today.
@khyron6
@khyron6 Жыл бұрын
Yeah no temp. glass. Case looks Great thanks for the vid. You Rock.
@VictorRomano
@VictorRomano Жыл бұрын
Very good to see this case coming out. Here in Brazil the mATX motherboards are always the best choice value wise and is what I recommend to my friends when they're building new PCs. Having that new case option to recommend will be really nice.
@1986Hikaru
@1986Hikaru Жыл бұрын
Yeah, we used to have the hx100 pichau. How is pretty much this case with some extra options. I hope this case or the Sky One Mini show up here in Brazil with a resonable price.
@Polesca
@Polesca Жыл бұрын
I am the only adopter of the ITX in my group of friends in Brazil and, damn, it's not only expensive but also really hard to find good components that fit into small computers. For example, paying 450 reais for the Cougar QBX is nuts compared that you could pay 260 in a Montech Air 100 that has way better construction. So, even though I use ITX myself, MATX is the best choice in Brazilian market by far.
@VictorRomano
@VictorRomano Жыл бұрын
@@Polesca Yeah I'm the only adopter of mini-ITX between my friends as well. It's not only really expensive but for several months now there's literally no new mini-ITX motherboards to buy.
@giorgio5789
@giorgio5789 Жыл бұрын
yeah but cases very hardly are exported/imported....so we're stuck with very limited choices
@Polesca
@Polesca Жыл бұрын
@@VictorRomano, I've really wanted to upgrade to LGA1700, but a H610I wouldn't cut it. I hate my X470 GTN from BIOSTAR, easily the worst mobo I've touched, but it's all I have.
@soulreaperx7x
@soulreaperx7x 11 ай бұрын
This filmed was shot this year and you really used a 9600k to test temperatures? How using some modern cpu since they get way hotter? Lets see the 13700k or 14600k or even a 7000 series amd processor...
@GuyX2013
@GuyX2013 8 ай бұрын
I got the black TG version. Its hella nice. I was able to stuff it with two T30 phantek fans , 3 arctic P12 fans, ROG AIO and b760 I mb , 13900k bracketed and a msi trio 4090 . With the glass closed the GPU hits 60ish max temps and cpu does 70ish max temps after hrs of CyberPunk at ultra settings. Its a great case with plenty of airflow and space but you MUST use a SFF power supply if youre going to run a 4090 or other card of similar size.
@sparda4glol
@sparda4glol Жыл бұрын
I just picked up this case from Micro and was wondering why no one was talking about, Holds everything my torrent did with a small bump in temps. Amazing case. Have not been this impressed in a while.
@nateo200
@nateo200 Жыл бұрын
OMG I have been looking at this case every day for an mATX build! Thank you SOOO much for uploading this!
@speckmitei2229
@speckmitei2229 2 ай бұрын
I love m-ATX because you can get a new b450 for >55€ without effort while still being „small form factor“. ITX is a budget killer
@pss3461
@pss3461 Жыл бұрын
Please review the Jonsbo D31. It addresses some of the issues you have with this case!
@xanderbose974
@xanderbose974 Жыл бұрын
That last B-roll shot of the lighting piercing through the perforated holes is a beauty. IMO forget TG.
@hbdude155
@hbdude155 Жыл бұрын
just picked up up and its awesome. perfect size, small footprint without being too difficult to build in
@snows2211
@snows2211 Жыл бұрын
I've been looking at this case for the longest time and I'm glad it's finally getting attention.
@locolama
@locolama Жыл бұрын
Bought it last year, it replaced my previous Define Mini C TG and the GPU temps are so much better. Build quality is top notch. Even fits a 280mm Liquid Freezer II leaving the psu in the highest position with plenty of space in the bottom for cabling and ssd's. To reduce noise from the bottom intake fans I used noctua spacers to distance my a12x25 a bit from the mesh.
@MrEstarion
@MrEstarion Жыл бұрын
Man, I've never knows this is a thing. Was it a noticeable difference? My Silent Wings Pro 4 suddenly sound much worse at 80% than 70%, so I wonder if these could help.
@lmonka3870
@lmonka3870 Жыл бұрын
The Cooler Master NR200P can support mATX motherboards with certain heights. I have a b450 mATX one installed in mine that barely fits. Saved me big time since ITX Boards are so expensive
@lendldumadag
@lendldumadag Жыл бұрын
I am still rocking my Fractal Define Mini C with current specs. I just love the form factor if mAtx. Not too big, fills up the entire case with peripherals and 4 ram sticks.
@pizzablender
@pizzablender Жыл бұрын
Nice case, we need more of these. Like the IM-1 pocket (IM-01 SAMA, Tecware Fusion) thi sis a nice case as well for small powerful systems.
@andipajeroking
@andipajeroking Ай бұрын
I just discovered mATX and it seems great. Compact, same functionality as atx for a casual gamer, can t wait to build one.
@inmypaants
@inmypaants Жыл бұрын
Happily running mATX in my O11D-Mini with dual 360mm rads. Love the smaller boards and having more space for custom cooling!
@stephenn504
@stephenn504 Жыл бұрын
Finally this case is getting some good coverage. By far my favorite case I’ve used. Glad to see hc review this. Retail is $75 usd but I never see if for that price. I have the black and white versions and couldn’t find a issue other than limited cable management behind mobo tray. I’m t fits my xfx 7900xtx without issue as well. Great work!
@sql64
@sql64 Жыл бұрын
did u add any extra fans and how are the temps and dust
@stephenn504
@stephenn504 Жыл бұрын
@@sql64 removed stock prime fan and put 3x120mm and 2x140nm fans in. Temps have been great. Use a nzxt t120 on a 5800x3d and temps hit 72c gaming and 80c all core. Must be from the airflow from all sides of the case. I can’t recommend this case enough, dust doesn’t seem to be an issue but I use a blower on it every few weeks because I have one for building pcs. You won’t be disappointed with the case but I wouldn’t pay more than $100 for it imo
@dwaynestimpson5449
@dwaynestimpson5449 Жыл бұрын
Not into TG, I just ordered the black version. I have always used matx cases and this one looks great and functional for the $79 price tag. Thanks for the great video!
@Krystalmyth
@Krystalmyth Жыл бұрын
M-ATX should be the standard imo. As we start moving to nvme as the main drive format for storage I don't see the need for a huge case.
@cinnabarsin4288
@cinnabarsin4288 Жыл бұрын
Love this case and built my new desktop and HTPC in it this year. Wanted something I could run air cooled almost silently with half the cost and pain of ITX. There's definitely things to consider for air cooling (intake CPU from the rear without a rear fan, and do a bottom to top exhaust flow personally), and PSU size is super important (get a 140-160mm in length max to make your life easier, 180 fits but it's going to take a lot more bundling and smushing) but it's easy to work with overall. Noctua Redux fans have been great for this too, found them to have less noticeable motor noise than the slightly cheaper fans I had installed originally.
@Michael-pf1in
@Michael-pf1in Жыл бұрын
I was thinking redux this thing out. Tower cooler and all six fans.
@cinnabarsin4288
@cinnabarsin4288 Жыл бұрын
@@Michael-pf1in In my desktop I've got 2 NF-P12 on the bottom and 2 on the DeepCool AK620 cooling a 13700K (added the sold separate rubber pads to the cooler fans), and in the top I have 2 NF-S12B and 1 NF-P14S over the PSU. Went airflow focused fans in the top since there's nothing they would really have to deal with resistance wise and the 140MM over the PSU and CPU exhaust gets that heat out of the case like nothing. Have the bottom fans at like 35% fixed, top fans at around 45% fixed, and CPU cooler on a curve. About two feet off to my right on my desk and I can't hear it until it gets under load and then it's mainly the GPU fans anyway. I'm super happy with the Redux performance and being around half the price for like 80%+ of the current gen Noctua performance.
@NightMotorcyclist
@NightMotorcyclist Жыл бұрын
I was looking at the black version of the case for months now and there are 2 in stock at my local Micro Center. I was about to pick it up until I saw the G Skill LT1 mATX case which looks very nice as well and it's cheaper.
@ngocangnguyen2195
@ngocangnguyen2195 Жыл бұрын
you can try the jonsbo d31, same formation, but the d31's psu cover will not let you down
@samuraislayer9864
@samuraislayer9864 Жыл бұрын
Great review. Would love to see more content involving other m-atx enclosures!
@sethglenn9022
@sethglenn9022 Жыл бұрын
I'm hesitant to like mesh cases because of dust and noise. I think TG cases, especially the Corsair 5000X are best for air filtration and noise since even the back panel is TG.
@avonire
@avonire Жыл бұрын
totally wish NZXT made a mATX Case. The more compact form factor would fit so well with their minimalistic and clean designs
@bassyey
@bassyey 11 ай бұрын
H400. I have one. Passed it down to my brother. I'm buying this instead.
@LifeIsButaBluff
@LifeIsButaBluff Жыл бұрын
Jonsbo D31 looks very similar but with a display on front panel.
@jceeejc
@jceeejc Жыл бұрын
4:18 The mounting supply bracket they should sell a sfx bracket but what I winded up doing was used my old nr200 sfx psu case to create more space for gpu and aio. It’s not a perfect fit so the latches on the nr200 psu cage needs to be warped slightly to fit in. But this enables 360 aio and a 40 series gpus to fit.
@zasssalomsoak7862
@zasssalomsoak7862 Жыл бұрын
Just bought this case, looks great, can't wait for rest of my parts 😁
@keiz_
@keiz_ Жыл бұрын
I'm so happy that more mATX cases are coming out. I love the smaller size of mATX, but ITX tends to costs as much if not more, and you lose a lot more IO, and I use up all my USB ports. Was needing to get a smaller case for a family member's computer, and wasn't wanting to have to buy them all new parts for an ITX build, so will definitely check this out.
@zergslayer69
@zergslayer69 Жыл бұрын
Nice looking case but my biggest issue is lack of dust filters on the sides, may as well just leave them off since dust will easily get inside
@johnreese9928
@johnreese9928 Жыл бұрын
If you set your fans up for positive or neutral pressure than dust should not be an issue. You can fit three fans or a 360 rad in the bottom.
@Reza1984_
@Reza1984_ Жыл бұрын
@@johnreese9928 could you elaborate?
@Jerome-iwnl
@Jerome-iwnl Жыл бұрын
I bought the ap201 last december! Love it!
@m.a.8736
@m.a.8736 8 ай бұрын
Information from an owner: you can fit one 3.5 and 2 2.5 hdd to this case while using 2 bottom fans.
@kingxeiros1818
@kingxeiros1818 Жыл бұрын
Literally just got done doing a Ryzen 7000/nVidia 4090 build in this case. It's fantastic for having a smaller footprint build without having a smashed shoebox feeling like some ITX builds. I'm very happy with it.
@DDHDTV
@DDHDTV Жыл бұрын
beautiful cause. Still loving my Cooler Master Nr400
@michaelw5456
@michaelw5456 Жыл бұрын
This would be a great space heater for a small gaming room.
@Doobie3010
@Doobie3010 Жыл бұрын
A familiar matx design, jonsonbo d30, gamemax spark. I prefer the Coolermaster Nr200 clones that do the same job/size but matx mobo/psu like Sama 01,itek Evoke, Nox vault ect.
@MrEstarion
@MrEstarion Жыл бұрын
ASUS AP201 is godlike. My 331mm 4090 fits perfectly with the middle PSU position, and the temps are similar to bequiet 500DX. I'm sure I can get them lower with a more aggressive bottom fan curve. AIO compatibility is better as well, even if Arctic's thick radiator makes me route the back fan perpendicular to PCI-E slots. Note that most new mATX boards have an M.2 slot above the x16 slot for GPU. It will be challenging to fit anything under a 3+ slot GPU with such layout, as the GPU effectively starts at the case's second slot. You can see the nano clearance that Kleo Yan has with a 2.5 slot GPU and Phanteks T30 fans when using an M.2 above x16 motherboard in this case. For AM5, the options where the x16 slot aligns with the case's first slot are: 1) ASROCK B650M PG Riptide (barebones) 2) ASUS PRIME B650M-A II (barebones) 3) Any GIGABYTE board (numerous coil whine reports) 4) ASUS X670E Crosshair ($600) 5) ITX boards The rule of thumb: if the middle mounting screws align with the x16 slot, then this is a motherboard with better GPU clearance (and inferior air cooler clearance)
@kaijuTIVI
@kaijuTIVI Жыл бұрын
Which Arctic AIO are you using? And which side is it mounted?
@MrEstarion
@MrEstarion Жыл бұрын
@@kaijuTIVI I'm using 280, and top is the only possible placement in this case. With my ITX board, the top corner at the back toward the right panel is extremely stuffed even with tubes coming from the "front" end of the radiator. One of the AIO fans is pressing on the CPU cable to the point that I didn't use the radiator/fan screw there. Routing the back fan cable there would have been too much. I made it go perpendicular to PCI-E slots and into the nearest bottom cable hole to connect into a fan splitter along the outer wall of the right side panel.
@Dee0426
@Dee0426 Жыл бұрын
I love matx! I went with the Fractal Define C. I build a pc for a clients podcast and decided to go matx. So many features! Boards with wifi are surprisingly hard to come by but they are priced way better than atx. I went with a 12700k for fast video editing (thanks to QuickSync) 1660 super for nvenc and an Elgato cam link pro to push all the dslrs into OBS
@sakomeow
@sakomeow Жыл бұрын
Re-cased my build into this since I wasn't really using the extra stuff ATX gets me. I was trying to specifically avoid any glass at all. I love how RGB stuff looks peeking through the mesh.
@darkktint5974
@darkktint5974 Жыл бұрын
I have 3 fans at the bottom of mine phanteks t 30s and 3 on my AI0 at the top and I have no problem with fan noise as you have experienced.
@iamanerd40560
@iamanerd40560 Жыл бұрын
We can buy it using 63 USD here in Taiwan🇹🇼
@NGreedia
@NGreedia Жыл бұрын
want to like this case. I just wish that there is option to mount 2x120mm or 2x140mm fans to the front. also about the TG, there is now a TG version I saw that was just added to my local retailer
@anglo-dutchsausage344
@anglo-dutchsausage344 Жыл бұрын
I saw this case last year and knew I had to have it, so I bought it. It's absolutely gorgeous. It looks very unique with some RGB in it as the square mesh creates a pixelated effect. I love how my GPU seems to almost fill up the bottom of the case, while not being suffocated at all. I saw someone on reddit who managed to get an extra 120mm fan on the bottom and even one in the front using the rubber anti-vibration mounts. They kind of fit through the mesh of the bottom panel and inner front panel. I did the same so I have 8 fans (4 in, 4 out). I do have a small form factor PSU which helps with the front fan, and you will lose your option to place an SSD there. Also I turned the PSU so it takes in air from the front instead of from the inside of the case. My el-cheapo Artic p12 fans are quiet in this case, but you do hear air flow, but also I don't hear it because I game with my headset on.
@renzl2337
@renzl2337 Жыл бұрын
I had this and Jonsbo D31. Stayed with the D31 for the TG.
@gail_blue
@gail_blue Жыл бұрын
I'm surprised mATX isn't the standard. 3 slot GPUs cover two of the slots anyway, so they ought to just move the gpu slot to the bottom, and let it hang down into the case.
@fdjw88
@fdjw88 Жыл бұрын
Will you guys do a comparison video between the Asus Prime and the Jonsbo D31? These two cases are very similar to one another, and they have a similar price point, it would be interesting to see some professional opinions. Thanks!
@z4k1_zaki65
@z4k1_zaki65 Жыл бұрын
Basically a mesh version of the Jonsbo i100 right?
@nate296
@nate296 Жыл бұрын
mATX is perfect for a small desktop build. Saves on footprint and costs and you'll get 90% of the functionality of ATX. Main problem with it is that some generations there's only garbage motherboards in the form factor, unlike mini ITX. I prefer mini ITX only if you go with extremely small form factor cases you can actually carry with you when traveling.
@supdawg7811
@supdawg7811 Жыл бұрын
Dude I just want this to be slightly bigger to fit ATX boards. Normal cases are needlessly big if you don’t water cool.
@lancedang2047
@lancedang2047 Жыл бұрын
Can u do a review about the Jonsbo D41 please? It does have a mesh panel with a configurable screen, matx designs and also super sleek looking
@FutureKLX300SMowner
@FutureKLX300SMowner Жыл бұрын
Matx has always been my favourite, boards are cheap, compact enough, they’re just the happy medium!
@MangoTangoFox
@MangoTangoFox Жыл бұрын
The fully square mesh patterns makes it seem very retro to me, as a lot of the old Dells used it. Having so much more of it, and in all white though, it gives it almost an architectural vibe rather than electronics.
@CaveyMoth
@CaveyMoth Жыл бұрын
I want to find a way to display pixel art through the square mesh. That would be so awesome.
@DigitalJedi
@DigitalJedi Жыл бұрын
@@CaveyMoth Maybe some little 3d printed or molded stubs that you can pop into the holes would work.
@CaveyMoth
@CaveyMoth Жыл бұрын
@@DigitalJedi Whoa. Shine some light on them and you can turn your PC Case into a Lite Brite!
@DigitalJedi
@DigitalJedi Жыл бұрын
@@CaveyMoth Just the fan RGB should be enough if you set them to a bright white or off-white color.
@CaveyMoth
@CaveyMoth Жыл бұрын
@@DigitalJedi This is ingenious. I almost want to do it. But I love my NR200 so much
@TheSlowpC
@TheSlowpC Жыл бұрын
Will always build with Matx whenever possible. Love my current setup and will continue this as long as I can. Might check this case out
@SensuAudica
@SensuAudica Жыл бұрын
More ❤for mATX. For some reason it's the least released form factor, but the best imo. Compact yet 4 dimm slots. Always liked it the most. ATX is uneccessarly big and itx is to limited. Nice to see the power cord connector in the back being vertical, on NR200 its not, which ruins some fan/radiator configs.
@raggarex
@raggarex Жыл бұрын
Very nice looking case.
@KOT-ANGRY
@KOT-ANGRY Жыл бұрын
My Seasonic PSU is 210mm and there are ONLY some cases where i can install it....BAD 🥺
@anonimuso
@anonimuso Жыл бұрын
I prefer my mATX cases to have space for at least a couple of mechanical hard drives. I know NVME and SSD are all the rage, but if you need to store a large amount of data, you still can't beat mechanical for cost. Also this case seems to have a lot of compromises. I think I'll stick with my Thermaltake Core v21.
@Time-Travelling-Lesbian
@Time-Travelling-Lesbian Жыл бұрын
Im using this case for my 4090 / 13700k build. And I love how compact it is
@4kpoison784
@4kpoison784 Жыл бұрын
4090 fits in that.
@DigitalJedi
@DigitalJedi Жыл бұрын
how long is your GPU?
@waffle911
@waffle911 Жыл бұрын
mATX: exactly as big as a PC needs to be not to make unnecessary compromises. I wish more case manufacturers gave the form factor its due.
@dobermanownerforlife3902
@dobermanownerforlife3902 Жыл бұрын
I have been eyeballing the Jonsbo D31 mesh with lcd screen. Very similar to the prime.
@AssassinKID
@AssassinKID Жыл бұрын
Love mATX, got Kolink Citadel Mesh RGB for both myself and my cousin. Compact, cheap ($55), front and top mesh, tempered glass door that can swing open for a quick clean, and include 3 RGB fans, clean and easy cable management as well.
@jackdabiao1437
@jackdabiao1437 Жыл бұрын
NR200\SAMA I'M\JONSBO~D30\ AP201\JONSBO D31, This is the sequence of the whole development.
@maxmeier532
@maxmeier532 Жыл бұрын
It's quite obvious why it's "forgotten". Default users just buy what is the easiest to handle, ATX. You know anything will fit in there without much thought. Basically all standards set up fit, biggest Power supplies, ATX boards, all the hard disks you want in case you need HDD, any gfx card. And again, you just buy and plug it in. Everything you want may fit in mATX with no problems but you will have to somehow find out, and that's a job on its own. On the other hand enthusiasts who want ITX, have no desire for a bigger mATX. It may hit a sweet spot for some, but for most it's either not small enough or not stress free enough when shopping for hardware.
@BenjaminWheeler0510
@BenjaminWheeler0510 Жыл бұрын
I’ve been saying it for years: 99% of people who buy atx only ever use one or two pcie slots. Microatx is so much more space efficient for nearly all people!
@bulletproof8019
@bulletproof8019 Жыл бұрын
It was about time you noticed it. has been a staple for MATX builders for a long time especially since GPU got stupidly bigger and cpus got hotter.
@chandlerm2571
@chandlerm2571 Жыл бұрын
I just did my latest 13th gen build in this case. I completely agree with everything youve said, this case is flying under the radar, especially at the 75 bucks I picked it up at
@TheShortStory
@TheShortStory Жыл бұрын
An absolute steal. I can’t imagine a case being easier to build in. And it looks so nice
@DigitalJedi
@DigitalJedi Жыл бұрын
Out of curiosity, what PSU do you have and how long is your GPU. I'm trying (and failing) to wrap my head around the fitting situation there.
@viewer-of-content
@viewer-of-content Жыл бұрын
I had been looking at this for months... I am still wondering if I should have chosen it earlier this month... i chose ventroo M03😅🤷‍♂️ idk what was the right decision🤔
@pcdeskworkshop8635
@pcdeskworkshop8635 Жыл бұрын
Please Dimitri!, do a review of the new Jonsbo TK-1, you must to see!!!
@josephdesales7791
@josephdesales7791 Жыл бұрын
I just built one earlier, and its very spacious despite of its size.
@jeremygimenez4659
@jeremygimenez4659 7 ай бұрын
So it has no intake fans unless you had the extra in bottom?
@marcin_karwinski
@marcin_karwinski Жыл бұрын
Two things missing from this review and case itself. For one, all of these holes should have been covered by dust filters to reduce its accumulation inside. And second, while you can move PSU bracket, if I recall correctly, you are limited by power cable flex when with 360 rad in the top, eg. you cannot orient the PSU intake towards the front on majority of PSUs, and moving lower would cut on GPU length support.
@Kazymedic
@Kazymedic Жыл бұрын
Great video, but the hardware choice is abysmal. 9600k and 2060 super? That is four generations old now on the CPU side, and two on the GPU side.
@iconiccfs
@iconiccfs 2 ай бұрын
they have a tempered glass version now :D
@alexandsimba
@alexandsimba Жыл бұрын
Fractal should take note: When you are making a compact case, make sure the power supply is installed at the front or top! I rather have more GPU options to install the in the future than more AIO support for a compact case. I'm looking at you Define 7 Mini and Nano with your restricted GPU support for a front intake focused case.
@hismuth3307
@hismuth3307 Жыл бұрын
I got this case 3-4 months ago, and I honestly regret my choice. It is sooo long in comparison to standard tower dimensions. The only way you could place this behemoth is on top of the desk. I have a small cabient on the side of my setup which I usually use for placing my tower. The cabient has ventilation via 2x 140mm noctuas to pull the hot air out. The current setup is I had to break down the side of the first chamber so I could place the case along the length of the cabinet,
@ljarta2753
@ljarta2753 3 ай бұрын
Can we fit a b450m ds3h wifi motherboard in here? Thank you
@jeremysharpe7890
@jeremysharpe7890 Жыл бұрын
Can you not have the shroud over the psu with a 360mm rad installed?
@elzafir
@elzafir Жыл бұрын
Can you take a look at the SAMA IM01 (Lian Li 185M/Tecware Fusion)? It's only 1cm larger than NR200P at 22L (much smaller than this case) and can fit 24.4cmx24.4cm mATX motherboard, full sized ATX PSU, 330mm GPU, and 240mm AIO. And it's only $50-60.
@RetroBerner
@RetroBerner Жыл бұрын
How do you not review the noise levels on a mesh case?
@ThuGfunk
@ThuGfunk Жыл бұрын
Hey, I just got this case. I'm about to buy my GPU to complete my build. If I go with a SFX PSU, can I fit a 345mm card in here with a 360AIO at the top? ASUS says 338mm, but I really want this other card and it's 345. I don't want to buy it and it doesn't fit, you think it could squeeze 7 more MM out of it? Looks like you had extra room in yours.
@kidsythe
@kidsythe Жыл бұрын
since matx mobos can and honestly do offer the same power phases and stuff at a cheaper price. I don't see why no one likes matx
@UnTwoOne
@UnTwoOne Жыл бұрын
I have this case. It’s nice in terms of what you can put there. Building inside it is easy and fun. The only dust filter you get is in the bottom, so if you have a cat (like I do) be prepared to vacuum clean it at least once a week. However, case is great
@Airbrushkid
@Airbrushkid Жыл бұрын
It can do everything. How about fitting a RTX 4080/4090 ??
@michaelthompson9798
@michaelthompson9798 Жыл бұрын
This is a beautiful looking case imo 💪🥰. I love my ITX builds, but this is a case that would get me to build a M-ATX pc setup no problem!
@Vermilicious
@Vermilicious Жыл бұрын
There is a glass version out now.
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