4:25 For those who are interested, W360, one of the founders of formd, released V2.5 after splitting from co-founder 3FC. 3FC kept the original production line and continues to sell V2.1 through formdt1, while V2.5 is sold under ncase. The V2.5 uses a single type of screw for easier installation but is otherwise similar to V2.1. Although I don't have personal experience with the V2.5, the general consensus on the SFF Discord suggest V2.5's build quality is inferior. Due to W360's questionable handling of the breakup and the reportedly better build quality I'd personally recommend the V2.1
@frankyao58543 ай бұрын
@@igniscogitare5413 yeah for sure, and the whole thing where he wanted to disband the company before they split up yet announced partnership with ncase immediately after they split felt very shady
@PotLid3 ай бұрын
Also isn’t w360 the guy who blew up the entire sff discord server? Lmao
@frankyao58543 ай бұрын
@@PotLid yeah he moderates the largest sff server. A lot of people moved to another server when he started kicking people who criticised him.
@hex64983 ай бұрын
True. Have the V2.1 and I can not complain. I travel a lot and especially with the travel kit this case is a tank to travel with (in a good way).
@apoclypse3 ай бұрын
I just found out about the drama but I had already ordered the ncase version since if you google the formd t1 the ncase site is pretty much the first hit. I had no idea there were two companies. Should have done a little more research.
@auddn06203 ай бұрын
Recently completed a build with Terra Fractal (Jade color), and absolutely love it. It's a good center piece for me and my gf's office/game room and it really catches the eye very well. Love that case, and will keep as a starting point for all upgrades in the future!
@RanenPo3 ай бұрын
The NR200P V2 is honestly such a downgrade from the original, can't believe they made it more expensive when V1's are like $50 on Amazon now
@erikkelley4123 ай бұрын
The nr200p still cost like $140 nr200 is $50 there's a difference
@phara1283 ай бұрын
@@erikkelley412 got my NR200P for a spare built for $75 in march.
@MrDidifar3 ай бұрын
Does the v2 come with pcie riser tho? Or must we buy it separately?
@jeremyg22363 ай бұрын
@@MrDidifar afaik they comes with one
@markvincenttee9203 ай бұрын
You're paying for the riser
@blkonblk173 ай бұрын
FormD T1 / Dan C4 SFX owner here. Both great cases overall with the Dan C4 taking the cherry. Such an enjoyable and straightforward case to work on.
@devyn.johnston3 ай бұрын
It’s such a good case. Wish they would have kept it in production. Hopefully v2 is as good.
@Zombie1013 ай бұрын
agreed 100%
@Zombie1013 ай бұрын
@@devyn.johnston v2 soon. will be better with m-atx support
@ZalionnАй бұрын
What makes you pick it up over the FormD T1? I know they are different sizes and serve different purposes, but if you could only pick one. I can't decide on my next case and need all the insight I can get. Right now, I'm deciding between the Form T1, M2, and the NanoQ S/R.
@Zombie101Ай бұрын
@Zalionn well portability. T1 is good for that. M2 if you want water cooling and micro atx etc.
@JamieR2 ай бұрын
NR200P Max ❤️ forever my favorite case. Takes a lot of the work out of building and picking parts. Sure the PSU isn't the best, but it's convenient.
@andyzard71623 ай бұрын
I also really like the Meshroom, used it with my spare parts and put in a full ATX and 3070 ti with a radiator. I like it so much more than my main PC which is in a Lian Li O11 Air
@00sra3 ай бұрын
The NCase M2 looks nice, but I wish there was an angled front available.
@GhostTheAssassin2 ай бұрын
im waiting for it atm, but apparently it is coming and its coming soon. (FYI owner of Ncase v1)
@冯俊筌2 ай бұрын
The angled version is available few days ago and I got one already.
@00sra2 ай бұрын
@@冯俊筌congrats!
@RanenPo3 ай бұрын
4:02 Ok so the FormD T1 V1 was the first to market with an adjustable center spine with 2 fixed positions (2 slot vs 3 slot GPU). For *freely* adjustable spine, technically the Jimu D+ V2 was first to market (it should be noted the D+ V1 was a FormD T1 V1 clone), though W360 had clearly also been working with a freely adjustable spine in the T1 V2 before the Jimu D+ V2 hit the market.
@YoloVib3s3 ай бұрын
Honestly I really wish I had jumped on the CH160 before Deepcool got sanctioned in the US.
@hukesama83893 ай бұрын
Although it's on the larger side of SFF, this case is not expensive to build on since you don't have to spend on riser cable and sfx PSU* (unless you use a large GPU). The only itx tax is the itx motherboard.
@twentyjeans42343 ай бұрын
I know right i got the G200 case one month prior
@Brandoncepeda3 ай бұрын
Didn't even know they stopped selling it here lol, glad I got it beforehand. It's an amazing case. Got a 4080 super FE in it
@yilunbai3 ай бұрын
They were heavily discounted in Canada after the sanction news in the US broke out, and there were some insane deals on deepcool stuffs like 50-60% off or something on that case. Was a banger value.
@Ubernoob993 ай бұрын
I recommend the ssupd meshroom D instead of the S. You can get away with a noctua cooler, with 4 slim 120 fans. Found the horizontal D to have better thermals than the Vertical S.
@Ubernoob993 ай бұрын
Obviously depending on or gpu size. No issues with a asrock 7800xt
@kensg3 ай бұрын
Liam li A4-h20, CM nr200p, meshroom d..my favorites . As always nice review. And congratulations on your child..all the best Devyn 🙏🏿
@devyn.johnston3 ай бұрын
Thank you!
@mztik3 ай бұрын
I've received the final version of the NANOQ R case from THOR ZONE today and from first impressions it is a really high quality and sturdy case. Planning to build on it tomorrow.
@YanatauАй бұрын
Hey, how did the build go? I'm interested in getting my hands on one of those for my next build
@imhaydenmelroseАй бұрын
I'm also interested in how the build went. How has it been over this month?
@CarnivoryHODL3 ай бұрын
I love the ncore 100 max after replacing the stock fans (incl psu fan). Upgradability’s there, esp w/ 4 slot GPU support & personally prefer the vertical design for a smaller footprint.
@nevoburi3 ай бұрын
can just agree, got one myself i had a problem with the psu fan always spinning, had to rma it, but other than that, i freaking love it. i got mine for 320€ that's tax incl.
@CarnivoryHODL3 ай бұрын
@@nevoburi got mine open box on Amazon for that amount but USD. PSU can get annoying, but noctua greatly reduced sound.
@pulseseal41823 ай бұрын
I just love the t1 because it is legit the easiest pc case to work in, just completely open no panels in the way.
@tellarion25 күн бұрын
Optimum has been my go-to for the best sffpc builds and reviews, until now. He's still great, but he's kinda branched out into a lot of other stuff. Very happy to find this channel so satisfy my sffpc obsession!! 😅
@anameonyoutube3653 ай бұрын
Just got my Thorzone NANOQ S in the mail. Despite how beautiful and well made it is, I just cannot tear apart my eWhite FormD T1. It’s so highly recommended for a reason.
@Andrew-tl9gk2 күн бұрын
FormD T1 is now called Ncase T1
@Lenticular673 ай бұрын
My Gemcase C9 just arrived today and I'm so excited to build in it!
@ash1kh3 ай бұрын
nanoq is killin it. The first moment i saw it, i said to myself that the ultimate sff should be it. Phenomenal aesthetics with eye catchy colors and shade, build quality to attention to detail for components just top notch.
@notlNSIGHT2 ай бұрын
It really is a stunner of a case.
@rogerhalt39912 ай бұрын
For me it’s a choice between the Dan A4 H2O or FormD T1.
@zionkimura626Ай бұрын
Formd T1 is easily the best
@KevinWinslow-m4j2 ай бұрын
I really like the Ncase m2 from what I've seen. It's slightly larger than the T1 and the Terra, which allows for easier configuration and larger CPU coolers; while still remaining very small.
@xenodrake400824 күн бұрын
hot take here, i'd love a wider t1 to accomodate the 3 slot mode and good cpu coolers at the same time (say, 70mm or so, enough for black ridge with a 15mm fan on top). It would be a bit larger but make complete sense, and people would buy it if they wanna only air cool imo.
@isbestlizard3 ай бұрын
Ahh the FORMD looks amazing :O my current system is on a machined aluminium testbench and I love the aesthetic everything is so precise and chamfered so when I build my next machine it would match the aesthetic! Only thing is the top panel looks really boring with otholinear ventilation holes, like if everything is being CNC'd just program offset patters and maybe use slightly different drill sizes in various passes and get like a really interesting organic but perfectly tesselating hole pattern would up the visual appear a notch or two
@Ben-AP2 ай бұрын
My personal favorite is the Iqunix ZX-1. Looks like there is very low availability on their website right now though, sadly
@kevinw7319Ай бұрын
Dan A4H20, hated building in that thing. Hard time getting the radiator pipes past the PSU/RAM. New favorite is the Velka 5 rev 3. 4070 super plus 5800x3d. EZ mode build
@firstcaptainarenoskarlaen71033 ай бұрын
I switched from an mATX to an ITX build. I got the CH160 because I could only afford to change out the case and the motherboard if I had some extra cash I would get a smaller case.
@mgut173 ай бұрын
nr200, i managed to get 2x 240mm radiators in that case with 3d printing and i quite liked that case, cable managment could be better in that case in my opinion
@nikilragav2 ай бұрын
What do you recommend
@emiel2553 ай бұрын
The open case the XPROTO ATX Case (17Liters) have now is perfect for me. I have it almost for 2 years and I won’t be switching cases anytime soon
@Hellboy_2109Ай бұрын
I got finished my lian li a4 build recently love the thing
@syedfahmi1436Ай бұрын
Hey man, just discovered your channel. I'm enjoying your content a lot. Keep it up!
@stepahinigor2 ай бұрын
T1 is still the king, maximum aesthetics
@kevinw7319Ай бұрын
I bought a T1, its in a box in pieces still somewhere :(
@danebeee13 ай бұрын
If you are willing to have something a little bigger the new lian ki/dan case a3 is insane value and versatility. Not bad looking either.
@jt69653 ай бұрын
Bought Terra as my first SFF - it's really amazing. BTW got a lot of info from your channel before bying, thanks mate!
@kyawmyothet34123 ай бұрын
COOJ Z-18 can this one use with ITX motherboard?
@jskop5662 ай бұрын
I'm going to get the parts around for a Cooj build immediately. Price isn't ideal but the look is crisp.
@B4T4LI42 ай бұрын
Currently still rocking my q58, but as soon as fractal comes with a bigger Terra that supports a 280mm rad, I'm switching to that. Love the design of the terra, just wish it was a little bit taller.
@notlNSIGHT2 ай бұрын
At this point, go for an Ncase M2. It can fit 280mm radiators, and GPUs as big as the 4090 STRIX.
@theshakyproject29713 ай бұрын
I wish one of your KXRORS builds made it in here. Your Lunchbox videos are why I bought the S400 (which is now discontinued to make room for the S450 which is the same case but with a second USB 3 port).
@cmegma3 ай бұрын
For me, the formD t1 is my favorite case to build in. The possibilities of parts, aesthetics and modulability are impressive for a sub 10L case. I was looking forward to louqe’s new ghost R1, but i was disappointed when i saw machines & more pre-production review of it.
@explosev6513Ай бұрын
Ncase M2 is the best alternative to the C4-SFX
@markdavies9813 ай бұрын
This is a great video, as always. I love this channel, and I'm always excited to see new videos. The original NR200 is my personal favourite. I prefer air cooling, and the original NR200 can accommodate a big enough air cooler for most current CPUs and can accommodate large GPUs. I have been using the NR200 for a while. I also have the original FormD T1 reference version. I don't think that version is available anymore, but it's a great case. It can accommodate quite large air coolers like the Noctua C14S, which is more than large enough for most modern AMD CPUs, and it can easily house a decent GPU like an FE 4070. I can't believe the T1 reference isn't available anymore. With modern low-power CPUs, it is the best solution for SFF, in my opinion. Especially with the newer and even more power-efficient AMD 9000 series CPUs. Intel? Don't even go there ;)
@drewliveryboy2 ай бұрын
Just now seeing this video. But to answer the question at 3:54, GEEEK is another SFF case company to have an adjustable center piece. Their GEEEK G1 does this exceptionally and is a beautiful case for $129 with a 3.0 riser and $149 with a 4.0 riser
@janndee68263 ай бұрын
Yes, Formd T1 v1 was the first to do adjustable centers, which Fractal copied in Terra
@iShredStreets3 ай бұрын
Not a bad steal.
@deldukedАй бұрын
The best is the thorzone mjolnor by far, I’ve tried xtia, ghost s1, formd t1 and the new nano q and the mjolnir is still better.
@bogdancarp8714Ай бұрын
Good job, what about Cooler Master Ncore 100 max ?
@ColdNyx3 ай бұрын
Do you have a recommendation for tools and setup for first time builders?
@cosmotect2 ай бұрын
I would also like tools recommendations
@nghiatt49963 ай бұрын
i have 2 option: Ncase M1 V5.1 used but still good, NR200P new. They are same price. Which one would i choose? Tks
@panzfaust98123 ай бұрын
This will do nicely for a time capsule video thing
@cuoriingioco3 ай бұрын
This kind of video is very helpful, thank you very much
@jmal3 ай бұрын
So far, I'm loving my Shiny Snake/KXRORS G200. It's basically the OG CH160 but at a size closer to the NCase M1. The only problems I have with it are the lacking front I/O options (I want a 2nd USB-A port) and the limited compatibility with GPUs now and in the future.
@huascarmejia22092 ай бұрын
does terra suppport water cooling?
@smarquez423 ай бұрын
been expecting for a video like this these last weeks, but i still can't find something that suit my needs better than the kxrors s300/s400
@MadelnOahu3 ай бұрын
The s400 is great but theres so much lost potentional in that case. If the t1 was a bit longer to accommodate 336mm gpus then the t1 would be hands down the best sff case
@SorenBorgquist3 ай бұрын
I'm really interrested in a really small case and those two 4-ish litre cases almost fit the bill ... just except for one thing: they have super-lacking front IO and I would like one USB-A + one USB-C and a headphone jack. *Then* I'd be happy.
@cryptoclyps5049Ай бұрын
s300 hummmingbird under $100 including riser cable at 7 liters, missing that one is a problem. s400 slightly larger fits aio
@marcoscoliveira6603Ай бұрын
I just want to point one thingtoSFF community and maybe, hopefully, manufacturers will get it too. No matter how clean we want it, dont take our front (or near front, top, side etc) IO, weneed those handy usb-c (and A for a few more years Iguess) ports near us. I often use external ssds or thumbdrives for transfering files to a friend, or charging my phone eventually etc. and reaching the back of it daily, routinely, kinda kills the vibe.
@guyband3 ай бұрын
NR200 is awesome
@Dawelio3 ай бұрын
Devyn, gotta ask you dude... that brown leather backpack that you've shown in several of your videos now, where can one get it? Looks really sleek 😊
@Renegade_Rabryn3 ай бұрын
Just recently started sff builds on my channel. So far built in the lian li dan a4 and the meshroom s. Just ordered the formd t1
@Username_CC_3 ай бұрын
Can you do a video about noise levels and undervolting settings among the best cases? I am anxious to downsize do to added heat and noise or losing performance by undervolting to keep temps in check.
@eddi34013 ай бұрын
I wish I had the know how on fitting my 4080 into a small form factor case, I would much prefer a form factor but im guessing the cooling won't be as good but im not sure
@mean.mushroomАй бұрын
Very informative, thank you
@Dj-sf7or3 ай бұрын
the best ssf case has to go tio the phanteks evolve shift xt
@keithharris25763 ай бұрын
Velka 5 is still my favorite to date.
@Cynyr2 ай бұрын
Rev1 or the new smaller one?
@keithharris25762 ай бұрын
@@Cynyr The new smaller one. Goodness does it turn heads when you tell people what you can fit into it.
@Cynyr2 ай бұрын
@@keithharris2576 I'm lusting after the new 7. Mainly for the sfx psu support
@phara1283 ай бұрын
wish i could get a velka 3 without absolutely getting knackered on import taxes but i went with a C9 based on your video.
@TikTok-to8qq2 ай бұрын
plz also compare the sizes with mac studio for size comparisons
@beeseesees3 ай бұрын
I tried the ATX build in the SSUPD Meshroom S and it was a nightmare. Had a really hard time finding the right length GPU riser cable, then I realized they didn’t include the standoffs needed for my height of GPU, and then I learned my GPU was actually too wide. Would not recommend.
@amirkaragozlu3 ай бұрын
nr200p max v2 is good but expensive , got it at 500 usd , it come preinstalled with a 280 m aio , 850 atx3 cooler master psu and the pcie gen4 riser cable ( even tho mine says gen5 somehow )
@anpan62823 ай бұрын
Would you consider doing a “favorite SFF open air kits”? Type video? (Like The Xtia build you did)
@devyn.johnston3 ай бұрын
Yea, I have a few more that I want to try first
@anpan62823 ай бұрын
@@devyn.johnston I’m looking to build a new PC in a long time. I know I want an open case config. Would love to know your opinions on the one that you worked on. Thank you for the great videos keep up the good work
@mil38803 ай бұрын
I should stop thinking about building a SFF build but I just can't because of you.
@javierm.28083 ай бұрын
You should try the McPrue Apollo S and SE 😊
@Fincher1233 ай бұрын
None of them could make me to rebuild in a new case. I stay with the Iqunix ZX1 Waterversion! But nice to see the other ones =)
@thorbik93 ай бұрын
What ist that low profile 4070 because i have been looking for something simmular
@dan8t6692 ай бұрын
Wondering the same thing. I hope he is not refering to a heavily overclocked RTX 4000 SFF Ada. (Very similar core to a 4070, but comes much lower clocked with a $1250 pricetag.)
@jacksoni34918 күн бұрын
What is the smallest atx case?
@trentnunz3 ай бұрын
I'm curious why the Streacom DA6 didn't make the list. It seemed like you really enjoyed that case.
@Akurasu3 ай бұрын
In my opinion, still one of the best SFF cases is the LIAN LI A4 H2O.
@RadialSeeker1133 ай бұрын
Yup. Mass produced. High quality. Can easily handle a 4090 and 7950x3d
@Alp5773 ай бұрын
Agree. My top 3 is A4, T1, and M1.The rest are either too big or can't fit a big GPU.
@doctor92283 ай бұрын
I had it and I sold cause my PCH and memory were hot too much for me without any cooling. I had 240 AIO on top. This case would be much better with ability to install 2x 120mm coolers to the bottom.
@notlNSIGHT2 ай бұрын
@@RadialSeeker113Even though the only 4090s that fit in it are stupid hard to obtain.
@notlNSIGHT2 ай бұрын
@@Alp577Then take a look into the M2. It's SMALLER than the NR200P and supports any 4090.
@iikatinggangsengii24713 ай бұрын
coolermaster nrp does actually has various color variants, check them out
@twentyjeans42343 ай бұрын
They just have a black and a white right?
@mcrown9938Ай бұрын
why is the nr200p more aircooled friendly while the v2 more liquid cooled?
@kubectlgetpo18 күн бұрын
Thank you for not hyping cases that they dont make.
@alexandrucapatina86883 ай бұрын
When will you get an Era2 case so we can see if Fractal improved the thermals in this one?
@Owenzzz7773 ай бұрын
My new favorite is the Dan A3 mATX. It’s not technically SFF, but it’s so easy to build in and has massive radiator support. I’m actually able to properly cool a Core i9-14900K in this case
@Hanibal_Canibal3 ай бұрын
Where‘s the ncase m2 ?
@570-q1y3 ай бұрын
he hasnt built in it yet, but hes done the m1evo which is similar but a bit worse compatibility wise
@devyn.johnston3 ай бұрын
I’m hoping to do a build in it very soon
@Hanibal_CanibalАй бұрын
@@devyn.johnston im excited for that Video
@PierreVilleneuve882 ай бұрын
Is there a way to install 6 3.5" HDD for a NAS built in these SFF cases?
@alexcollinger47959 күн бұрын
What's the case you show next to the Velka 3 at the 11:09 mark?
@MrMoonsilver2 ай бұрын
Super cool video!
@MikeKrasnenkov3 ай бұрын
I have fit full ATX mobo, 4090 and 10G NIC card in Meshroom S. I've used second 4x riser cable and routed it alongside main one for the GPU. Fixed the 2nd riser slot to the first one using extra standoff that came with the case.
@MadelnOahu3 ай бұрын
Oh fuck yeah a sequel to my favorite type of pc videos
@paquitochips3 ай бұрын
missed out on the lunchbox category - kxrors s300
@ShaunaJagan3 ай бұрын
Hey, Devyn! Do you have any plans on use the a620i from ASRock? I think it's a neat board for its price
@Cerklbah2 ай бұрын
0:23 Gotta build’em all! 🎶
@香噴噴-p6f3 ай бұрын
i thought you gonna put S400 in your list which is my most favourite case
@foxxrider250r2 ай бұрын
Is that an iPhone 16? If so, how did you get it so early?
@MauricioPlaza2 ай бұрын
Anyone can awnser me if worth to get a NR200p MAX or the NR200p MAX V2. there's like a 40 euro difference between the 2 but I only see that the most significant addition is the ATX 3.0 psu
@AndrejGobec3 ай бұрын
One thing I would add is - PATIENCE. I decided on an SFF build and apart from large manufacturers cases like Fractal or Lian-Li, NOTHING was continuously available.
@videosuu3003 ай бұрын
which is the 4070 that can fit in velka3?
@vikiceland3 ай бұрын
There is no 4070 card could be put into Velka 3. The highest gpu you can put in is 4060ti. If you need 4070, velka 5 or velka7 can do.
@videosuu3003 ай бұрын
@@vikiceland there is going to be a 4070 1 fan, its from zephyr. But not sure if there is another one
@camarmajumandiri81153 ай бұрын
ZS A4DC 👍
@ShaunaJagan3 ай бұрын
Hey, Devyn! Do you have any plans of covering the a620i from ASRock? I think it's a neat board for its price
@devyn.johnston3 ай бұрын
Yes, I have it. I originally used it in a ch160 budget build. But I decided not to release the video when DeepCool was sanctioned. Will be using it in another build soon.
@ShaunaJagan3 ай бұрын
@@devyn.johnston That's unfortunately =/ Could you provide the list of parts that you used? I'm plaining of build an a620i ASRock in this exactly same case
@eky2 ай бұрын
SFF means Small Form Factor
@MyJdray3 ай бұрын
Love my deepcool ch160. Glad I got it before the sanction. Even fits a 120mm aio and gaming on a 7800x3d gets no higher than 65c. A case with great air flow and the looks!
@harshg9604Ай бұрын
Hey bro ...thankyou for putting efforts to make compact pcs..... I am from India looking for a powerful gaming and editing pc under 2000 USD ..can you build one for me ? We can figure out how to ship to India or if possible please let me know the components so I can build my dream compqxt gaming pc for games and jobs. One again appreciate your efforts