Big PC Cases are DEAD to Me. - Dan Cases C4-SFX

[@LinusTechTips]

What do you guys think of this small form factor case? Let us know below! Check out the DanCase C4-SFX Mini-ITX Case: lmg.gg/N3mLR Buy an AMD Ryzen 7 7800 X3D CPU: geni.us/3zcsN8 Buy a Gigabyte AORUS Radeon RX 7900 XTX GPU: geni.us/DuUM Buy a Nvidia GeForce 4090 FE GPU: geni.us/1BwMkoC Buy a Cooler Master V1100 SFX 80+ Platinum PSU: geni.us/tBS8 Buy an ASUS ROG Strix X670E-I Gaming Motherboard: geni.us/SDy4j Buy a NZXT Kraken X63 RGB 280mm AIO Cooler: geni.us/A9vp Buy G.Skill Trident Z5 RGB 6000Mhz CL30 2x16GB DDR5 RAM: geni.us/8E3HGyS Buy a Gigabyte AORUS Gen5 10,000 NVMe M.2 SSD: geni.us/ucyxA Buy a Crucial MX500 2TB 2.5" SSD: geni.us/7BCqyso Buy a Noctua NF-A14 Fan: geni.us/q2Hwi Buy a Noctua NH-D9L CPU Cooler: geni.us/uCZqzgZ Buy a Noctua NH-D12L CPU Cooler: geni.us/eHf4 Buy a SSUPD Meshroom S Mini-ITX Case: geni.us/8AVx Buy a Cooler Master NR200P Mini-ITX Case: geni.us/lXJqY Purchases made through some store links may provide some compensation to Linus Media Group.

[@th1jzzz531]

Asus motherboard and X3D Cpu.. That cant go well

[@guycxz]

@@th1jzzz531 That's just their way of showing you can fit an ICE in this thing.

[@Ecci2]

It's quite cool, but I've never liked such small cases

[@GDInklord]

I think it’s overall just a nice looking small case

[@convextlc9767]

Why are you advertising Asus boards with 7000X3D cpus with the issues around them together. I get if the video was shot before it BUT take out the affiliate links at least from the video description and this comment.

[@eldibs]

You're building in a DanCase without Dan? How could you?!

[@speedingegg]

Yeah, how could he?

[@AXCBER]

He might have been busy setting up Wan show but yea, it was a huge missed opportunity.

[@ahsookee]

The guy who designed this case is called Daniel I believe, it's a one man show from Germany. Would have been dope to have him on a video

[@NpxrDSMNTL]

Well who is gonna continue making cases for the other customers?

[@doq]

@@ahsookee Dan and Dan build in a DanCase would go way too hard for our mortal eyes and ears.

[@bryce2113]

The warranty sticker thing is one of the main reasons I'll miss EVGA's GPUs. They honor their warranty even when you disassemble and install a waterblock on the card. I've had to RMA two EVGA GPUs (out of like 11 I've owned from them) after I watercooled them. I told them up front that they've been watercooled. They simply told me to put the stock heatsink back on and said the only issue would be if I didn't have the stock thermal pads anymore (which they offered to send me). RMA process was a breeze still. RIP EVGA, you will be missed.

[@kylemiller2920]

No lie, EVGA is one of the easiest companies ever to work with, and their CS has always been first class when I've had to work with them.

[@YaKillaCJ]

XFX honored the warranty too. They even went as far as to offer Waterblock installation for the AMD Vega cards, U pay for shipping.

[@hungcanmanh4683]

Not like they are dead. They just choose to not to stay with the unseasonable

[@summushieremiasclarkson4700]

XFX are just as good, if not better. They explicitly list that they don't cover warranty on used cards, but when my $250 6800xt started acting up (shocking, I know), they agreed to provide RMA so long as I paid for shipping. This was a surprise to me, I even told them it was used.

[@eagle653]

The SSD bending is because there's space for a double sided SSD, but a single sided one is thinner so it doesn't make contact with the thermal pad underneath and gets pushed in by the cooler. But ASUS have actually accounted for that and they include a rubber spacer which you can install underneath a single sided SSD to support it and stop it bending. It's not well-advertised but if you look in the accessories box it should be there, and there's a page in the manual showing where to put it. Alternatively you can just add another layer of thermal pad if you lose the spacer.

[@DannyNguyen56]

go figure, nobody rtfm anymore😂. Thanks for the tip though

[@Atari8888]

​@@DannyNguyen56read the fuckin manual?

[@TsLeng]

Correct. I read the manual on my Asus MB and it calls for it. I did it. RTFM chaps😂

[@RiceCubeTech]

@@Atari8888lmao that’s what I thought of instantly too😂

[@JarNO_WAY]

Ah yes, an Asus motherboard with an X3D. Definitely the most stable of gaming rigs in the modern day.

[@Darkmaniak86]

rn with the 1410 bios should be safe, you lose OC functions and you are capped to 1.3v but at least it doesn't void the warranty anymore

[@asnaeb2]

@@Darkmaniak86 the cap doesnt work lol

[@Stavroization]

This was also most likely filmed way before the news was out

[@stingrayslapper1595]

Was thinking the same thing

[@nathanlarson6535]

​@@asnaeb2And ASUS will probably void your warranty anyways because they will just delete that BIOS version from their website too lol

[@Pyrobob4]

Adam really came alive this video. I know he's been on camera quite a bit at this point, but something about this video reminded me of the days when hosts like Anthony and Alex were getting their video legs. When the host is comfortable and confident, and their personality really gets to shine through. Love to see it.

[@pipisugbo]

It was like watching regular Linus working with Big Linus 🤣

[@OriginalDegree]

Two

[@thomasphillips885]

He's turning into a Jake personality And maybe body double (slowly)

[@themardybum08]

It would help even more if Linus didn't keep trying to undermine him lol.

[@resiennn]

Like his spine

[@Alec_Smahrt]

I'm waiting for a mass manufacturer to just bulk produce these for like $38. When a full ATX case can be sub-$40, there's no good reason (aside from small production run and "because you'll pay it") for a case with this little material to cost $200+. Heck, you don't even need to have it be pre-assembled, just ship with instructions and let the user do it. Cutting out steel panels doesn't cost that much, especially in bulk. For a small run, charge what you want I guess, but for this to be mainstream a big maker just need to make them in bulk and price accordingly. If "Bgears b-Vigor RGB Mid Tower with Front RGB Light and Side Tempered Glass (BG01879)" can be #17 on Amazon's best sellers for PC cases, for $38, and have tempered glass and lights, this SFX case can be done for $38. It doesn't even need a riser, so there's no excuse about minimum costs there.

[@wakeboyy]

I remember when Dan's cases were fairly new on the market and super niche. Pretty cool to see them keep pushing SFF. I just got a Dan A4-H2O last year and love it.

[@Dustmadeout]

Yeah, very cool for 200€ lol.

[@Zoduk]

I live the H2O, but its missing the size to comfortably fit a 4090....my prayers have been answered!

[@Invincibleagent]

@@Zoduk The H2O can fit the 4090 FE and MSI Ventus model

[@pldcanfly]

Got a A4-H2O last year too, it's just such a great case. And maintenance is not that hard with the possibility to pull the bottom off, and the hole in the front. Still in love with it.

[@mycosys]

Do you have some need for the case to be half as tall or is all that hassle just to look cool? Footprint wise Its 4.5cm narrower and shorter than my Corsair 220T but also a hell of a lot harder to build in and you need compromised components?

[@Z0eff]

The fact that you don't need a riser cable makes a huge difference to me. Those end up causing so many issues in real world use cases

[@boot-strapper]

such as?

[@lambyi]

​@Bootstrapper A lot of cases still ship with a Gen 3 riser. Gen 4 mobo, Gen 3 riser, and Gen 4 GPU can lead to a lot of instability and for first time builders it can be a hassle figuring out that's the problem.

[@TazerXI]

@@lambyi And it is just another thing to plug in, and another point of failure. Not having one is probably better just for simplicity's sake

[@Connorbrow]

Wasn't it NZXT who had fire starting risers? Also, hey Z0eff 👋

[@im_godness7990]

Got a Gen4 GPU, Gen3 Riser and Gen4 Mobo and got No Problems at all🤷🏻 B550 I Gaming RTX 3070 Strix Lian Li Q58 Gen 3

[@freehugzhere865]

I love when the editors have fun with the videos and add goofy stuff. Makes me smile every time 😂

[@Sir_Tachyon]

In regards to the tamper sticker, Isopropyl alcohol works as a great solvent to temporarily make the sticker no longer sticky. Then once the isopropyl alcohol evaporates you can re-apply it like a new sticker. This trick also works for the rubber feet on many devices that manufacturers love to hide screws with.

[@wtfsalt]

Learnt something new, cheers

[@amaizen4817]

first i was like "no shit sherlock" and then i went to "oh snap thats cool"

[@Rov-Nihil]

A solvent meaning it dissolves the glue, no?

[@Aerosklice]

​@@Rov-Nihil it disolves it but it makes sense that if you just leave the alcool and glue on it instead of wiping it off it will get sticky again when the solvent evaporates

[@Nick-cp4td]

​@@Aerosklice naaah ,if you apply to much,the glue remains on the card,its a very tricky and delicate operation

[@Neoxon619]

At the rate Nvidia is increasing the size of their GPUs, I’m worried that even this case will become useless in a few years.

[@dennisheusschen7273]

Amd,intel?

[@orenraveh1162]

​@@dennisheusschen7273 Lets Not Talk About Them

[@ATLsF1N3ST91]

​@dennisheusschen7273 those literally don't matter to most users buddy. Sorry to break the bad news to ya

[@kg132465]

You'd just have two small cases, one for the gpu and one for everything else 😂

[@tkji]

​@@ATLsF1N3ST91 amd gpus are better price to performance

[@johndoe9450]

Good thing you remembered the segways. Don't wanna miss out on commercials inside the 21 minute commercial.

[@ligitstrawberry]

As a mechanic I laughed so hard when linus swept the screws to the side if you do that in a shop you might get hurt

[@MechAdv]

I once had a helper “reorganize” the bolts I had laid out by subassembly on a work bench for a particularly heinous engine rebuild. If we had an HR department back then I would’ve been fired on the spot for the hateful language that spewed involuntarily from my mouth.

[@johndododoe1411]

I remember when there were only 3 screw types in PCs and you could buy mixed bags of spares.

[@randomxaos]

This explains why I always have so many screws left over

[@brianguerino5499]

Linus is being ballsy for using a ROG itx board with his 7800x3d right now, lol.

[@droidbird]

fr

[@leonro]

Yeah, I know this must have been recorded before the full story came out, but I'd have appreciated some mention such as "we are professionals, do not use an asus mobo at home".

[@SkullHandy]

He won't say anything about asus/amd because they went hard with amd "upgrades". And no showing it between bits in WAN show where fewer people will see is not really adressing the problem

[@ultratronger]

@@SkullHandy yeah, because when they were doing intel upgrades they NEVER said anything bad about intel cpus and their wattage and temps, right?

[@Bulldawzer]

Pre-recorded.

[@evanjrowley]

I love inverted cases. So hard to find and honestly that's an injustice. Thankful for smart case designers like this.

[@potatopotatopotatopotatopo8746]

I bought the O11D Evo literally a few hours ago just because i want a white inverted case

[@BeRawg]

I had an old Lian-Li PC-V1000 case that did something like this. Loved it.

[@chefboird9995]

The crew comments are some of my favorite bits bc no one else on production scales like this don’t let the people behind the scenes interact like these guys do

[@obsessive8332]

I've only seen Smosh do this before

[@sonnyboy2340]

This has the same energy as Adam's tech upgrade. Love it

[@mjdevlog]

nah his gf/wife brings more chaos than this

[@Reurbo]

I used to build only full tower cases, but recently realized (after longer than I'll admit) most of that space is going to waste because I'm not using a full tower as intended. My latest build was going to be in a micro case with an mATX motherboard and I almost went with the Jonsbo D31 in the mesh white ($90 and would be my first white pc build), which is very similar to the one used here, but ended up doing the HYTE Y60 (a mid tower) in snow white and absolutely love the build even more. I was very concerned with the thermals of an i9-12900K in the D31 even with an AIO liquid cooling and was a bit disappointed most micro cases didn't have a glass side panel.

[@The5Studio_]

If you are thinking about recreating this build, i’d recommend not using an ASUS motherboard because the over current protection is faulty and the BIOS that fixes it voids the warranty. Watch Gamer Nexus’ video for more detail on the problem.

[@theplanetarian]

That and for some reason Asus insists on making their itx rear io shrouds extend past the itx form factor.

[@Murgeri]

"BIOS that fixes it voids the warranty." False.

[@SegmentW]

The genuine excitement in how awesome the engineering must've been to design that case was awesome to watch

[@MD-zf5yy]

Warranty stickers are not only not enforceable, they're also illegal under the Magnuson-Moss Warranty Act in the US. The FTC has sent out warnings to companies about this and technically you could report any manufacturer for it.

[@martijnvdijk]

Who was aware that Dan from LTT had a sidehustle in designing PC cases as well? It represents his genius pretty well tbh.

[@perun]

not the same dan. the dan case is from a german forum member of computerbase

[@ducksonplays4190]

@@perun I guess this is what they say r/wooosh is for?

[@l3v1ckUK]

I wish Fractal would make a micro ATX version of the North. The normal North is quite big.

[@BarnabyFWNightingale]

@@initial_kd it’s still big for an SFF lover like me… I also would love an ITX or mATX variant!

[@Standoffmuffin]

​@Initial_KD mesh side panel is the best version you can mount an aio on the side.

[@FastSloth87]

They did it for the Torrent, I bet they'll come up with smaller North variants soon (maybe Computex?).

[@christopherjames9843]

MicroATX is the read headed step child. It isn't popular enough to warrant much effort on the part of motherboard or case manufacturers.

[@v0ldy54]

@@christopherjames9843 then why does Fractal make a MATX version of pretty much every case they make?

[@hesthatguy]

I love the dynamic that Linus and Dan have.

[@JMFe95]

Father and son energy

[@Metal_Maxine]

Dan? That's Adam.

[@vSparq]

Nothing gets me going like SFF cases! Love seeing you guys covering this on the channel! More please!

[@xxtravdamanxx]

SO YOU COOMED TO THIS VIDEO???

[@veganmonter]

As someone who has long haired pets who I value more than most people, I appreciate the desire to make sure your system is easy to clean. I have a calendar reminder to remind me every month to "peel" the fur off my computer's filters.

[@benjaminoechsli1941]

One day, I'm going to make a SFF build with just an APU. Love to see innovation in the space. Just like I love seeing episodes with Adam! He knows what he's doing, and isn't camera shy. Great match for Linus.

[@TheChrisD]

10:34 Not only Andrew, but the entire island of Ireland has just facepalmed and blacklisted Adam from ever coming here.

[@chrisglasser1777]

I can only imagine the horror on that poor lad's face when he said to scrape the foam off a Guinness. smfh.

[@benjaminvolk8517]

I've recently build my rig in the Dan-A4 H2O and I am still impressed by the quality and overall concept of their cases.

[@SeijinSA]

Using a Dan A4-H20 with a 5800X3D and so many features it included were just as nice as this. And I can see so many more new improvements between that case and this newer one. Even if ITX is charged at a premium it is amazing to just see it all fit and work while remaining quiet.

[@Zonker66]

Love the build... and the unconscious screwdriver flip at 2:45... he didn't drop it! Also, I cringed when Linus brushed those screws aside. Glad their was a lesson to be learned there. Respect another's workspace, Linus!

[@blacknova555]

It was a pretty clean flip too.

[@Zonker66]

@bruh I think he mighta put a few points inta int and tech... just a few...

[@casperunnerup]

I really wish there would be a micro-ATX version of this. The motherboards are usually cheaper for the features. Provides an upgrade path for more RAM and other expandability. This would only require a small bump in height

[@michaelpyle]

Dan Case has the A4-mATX in development which is basically a slightly larger version of this. But who knows when/if they release it

[@davidskidmore3442]

I just built a minor variation on this (7700, rx7900 xt) in a Silverstone Alta G1M. It's a micro-ATX case, but assembled vertically (the 'rear' ports are on the top) so it's got a small footprint, and average mid-tower height. GPU ends up facing the front panel, so the LED-lit fans on mine shine through the front mesh. As a bonus it supports normal dual-tower air coolers, so no need for water or radiators.

[@casperunnerup]

@@davidskidmore3442 I've seen the Alta too. It is so close to being great too. But I don't like the look of it and like the open top due to liquid spills. Where I could put the C4-SFX upright in the same position as the Alta to close of the top

[@A-Gaming-Memory]

Linus does seem like a good boss to be honest, its nice to see fame and money doesnt go to everyones head! Well done LTT 🥰🥰

[@svn5994]

LOL Ok.

[@wielku]

The fact this case wasn't restocked is sucha a damn shame

[@dumpsterdawg]

Linus: "Why do you want to choke a horse??" Because it is a night-mare

[@Evie0133]

I freakin love Mini-ITX, so compact and unique, it genuinely helps with space constraints and rare situations when I need to move it around :D

[@ZacharySound]

Your god damn right. Hell yeah.

[@clays32]

i prefer mini-DTX because its just as compact but you can fit more stuff onto it.

[@d9zirable]

He definitely should have gone with a different mobo vendor though

[@MMasterDE]

Did one for the wife. Never regretted it.

[@awolsam]

ITX is fun for seasoned PC building enthusiasts, it is where most of the progress in case design/layout/innovation happens :)

[@DynMads]

Linus; Big PC Cases are DEAD to me Also Linus; Builds literal server racks of computers for home use.

[@Okand2]

I've had an A4 since 2018 and I've been really happy with it. The build experience was like you're describing here, it gets out of the way and you kinda forget you're doing a small form factor build. It just goes together really nice and easy.

[@daniels0987]

Love the Summit Ice t-shirt. Never forget ✊

[@jamiebarber8362]

I mean, I'm so OCD that I cut & re-soldered a bunch of cables and heat shrunk them on the back of my current rig, just so as to get the cable management spot on; also heat shrunk around the motherboard headers to hide coloured wires etc so they're invisible. I LOVE this video for so many reasons though, they're having genuine fun working it out, I used to work in the games industry and would build the latest, smallest build for trade shows or press demo tours of our games etc (I learned this the first time I went to E3 and had to strip a midi tower down, including it's PSU going through customs). So this just brings back SO many happy memories.

[@9php]

You should check out another interesting case: Mechanic Master C28. At 17.9L it's one of the smallest cases that supports both micro-atx mobo and atx psu at the same time. Just like the dancase in this video, nearly all of its panels can be unscrewed for easier building. It supports 240mm AIO or an air cooler up to 162mm. It also supports a 335mm graphics card. I got mine from aliexpress last year and it was a very fun build, especially squeezing in my giant msi rx 6950xt gaming x trio.

[@ericchen5862]

wait til the m1evo comes out lol

[@johnuzoka6124]

Nah I have the ZZAW C2 case and it supports MATX mobo + ATX PSU at the same time. And GPU length upto 323mm and the case is 13.7L total

[@9php]

@@johnuzoka6124 thanks for letting me know! i edited my comment so it just says "one of the smallest" since yours is smaller. for my purposes, i still prefer the c28 because it can fit taller air coolers and my gpu is 325mm so wouldnt fit in the zzaw c2.

[@9php]

@@ericchen5862 unless im mistaken, m1evo is an itx case. the reason i suggested c28 is because it fits all regular micro-atx parts so you dont need to pay extra or lose functionality for itx/sfx parts

[@johnuzoka6124]

@@9php also theres the SAMA IM01/Techware Fusion It's 21L with more compatibility compared to zzaw c2 but I'm not sure of the cooler/GPU allowance

[@_kaisetsu_]

I've been using Lian Li O11 Air Mini for a while now and it's one of the most aesthetically-pleasing and fun cases to build

[@anmolchauhan9513]

I am actually going for that for my next build. Looks very fun and pleasing and cool (?)

[@moortu]

Me too bro! It's not as small as those cases, but it's a damn pleasure to work in

[@telumatramenti7250]

I'd still go with larger cases with tempered glass panels. For one thing, - they are a joy to assemble, very easy to clean and maintain, have dust filters, you can still have your USB3/USB C ports on the top of the case, and they look much nicer, especially if you intend to put RGB fans etc. in them. And you're not going to have a "Godda&^t!!" moment when you've spent so much time assembling your case but your mobo won't post as you push the power switch. Now I honestly don't know what advantage do smaller cases have unless you intend them to be portable or have just moved into a condo the size of a closet in the middle of London. But even then you should just go with a PC imbedded in your tiny desk.

[@maistho]

I have the ncase m1 which is a very similar size. Going to a LAN party I could just put the computer in my backpack with my keyboard and cables which was super convenient. SFF is a hassle to maintain but well worth it

[@DojoDoggo]

can you all please review your product sponsor Eight Sleep? Why is there a subscription plan for a mattress pad. I am not talking about the cost off the pad, there is a subscription (*nonoptional) just for their app???

[@noonenoesbutme]

Quick technical correction about the board standoffs being riveted.. Also, my credentials: I'm a senior level mechanical engineer for a technology company where I design image processing computers, and most of design work is sheet metal design... (My YT profile pic is from 2010... Please ignore lol) Sheet metal parts can be riveted together, but fasteners / hardware such as standoffs, nuts, keyhole guides (keys), spacers, studs, etc are actually 'self-clinching' fasteners. These fasteners have a special geometry at the base which is larger than the hole in the sheetmetal. Using a hydraulic press they are forced into the smaller mounting hole. This causes the base of the fastener to mushroom out a bit and curl into the sheet metal like little hooks. The high pressure from the press allows the metals to flow together even though it's at room temperature. The result is a very precise, and incredibly strong connection for a fastener into thin sheets of metal - while also being significantly less expensive than a weld or other manufacturing techniques. The 'Apple' of self-clinching fasteners (which all my designs use) is Penn Engineering with their PEM line fasteners. It's one of those companies you've never heard of - but you have have hundreds of their products in your house, quietly hidden in your daily household items that contain sheet metal parts. Thanks for coming to my TED talk :)

[@mangaas]

Biggest change I've made with my last 2 builds is actually getting bigger, open, full-tower cases. Makes your thermals never become an issue again. More space, more airflow, quieter fans for a cooler system.

[@MarkoVuckovic32]

Yes but some of us are working with limited desk space. Basically the largest I can do is microatx

[@elevul]

​@@MarkoVuckovic32 put it on the ground then

[@MarkoVuckovic32]

@@elevul yeah, that's an option but most cases nowadays have a window so if I put it on the ground, I can't see inside.

[@Blinkhs1]

I can't even put it on the ground, sff cases are killer for dorm rooms

[@ARH0101]

Fractal Meshify 2XL gang !

[@GL1TCH3D]

Watching you work in that case definitely helps highlight the ease of building in the more standard ATX options. Otherwise FormD and many other SFF look great. Only thing I wish is more would have a handle for portability.

[@tekeous]

Update: the Dancase C4-SFX is discontinued, Dan made a post saying he went on to C4 V2 which is mesh, looks way different, and ships flatpack. This case as we know it with the aluminum is dead forever.

[@Jordan.C]

SUMMIT ICE. never forget

[@CrackyCreates]

the more linus videos you watch the more brute force you use in your builds

[@lateral1385]

Linus plays his part so well. Love Adam as well. Can't wait to see more of him.

[@ryancholmes]

I really like these small form factor builds. I've never built a small form factor myself though...I usually build in mid or full tower cases. Could you guys do a video on how you go about selecting components for a small form factor build and ensuring that everything will fit in the case (theoretically)?

[@califa213239]

Pretty straight forward honestly, most ITX cases only fit SFX PSU, ITX motherboards, and the showcase on the website will tell you what size cooling and fans will fit. Oh, and also consider the GPU won't always fit for a three-fan or higher-end GPU. There is virtually no way to make a blanketed approach to ITX as each company deals with it differently.

[@rogeraustin7185]

@@califa213239 Also almost all product listings - especially on the manufacturer's website - will give dimensions. Case manufactures, esp in SFF cases, will usually give max length/height/width dimensions for GPU slots. I still try to undershoot a tiny bit so I don't have to do like they did in this video and partially disassemble the case.

[@Rzn8B58]

I admire the small case sitting here looking at the nv7 under my desk that couldn't fit on my desk without blocking my 8 inch studio speakers. That little case would perfectly fit in between my screen and my speakers. I salute you!

[@royalrepublican3480]

guessing this was recorded before asus boards blew up every X3D cpu

[@beowulfbelmont2578]

I love my hulking beast that required me to source a desk with a slot big enough to fit it (barely), but it's still really cool to see these smaller form factors being fleshed out and developed. I'm a big case for life stan, but this is great for my smaller case brethren!

[@ErikLtz]

Small is nice (even in a big house) - built a 10 liter desktop using Lian Li PC-Q03B many years ago - still alive with upgraded SSD and now a small RTX 2060 card - also the NR200 chassi is (was?) a little bigger at 18 liters and very flexible but most recently built a 33 liter machine using Asus Prime AP201 chassi (RTX 4070, Ryzen 5900X, 4 memory modules) and its so much more convenient with a little more room for everything inside - including more air 😊

[@Superburtclub]

I love Adam and Linus videos. The chaotic energy is unmatched

[@timduck8506]

Keep a backup of the old BIOS just in case you blow the CPU as the latest BIOS void's your warranty.

[@G.r.e.g.g.l.e.s]

"It'll blow more air at lower volume" *Earthbound music plays*

[@atcatpl]

Now you should compare mid 2000s case against modern pc cases and see if pc cases improved over the years

[@insparks782]

I'm running a small form factor system and I thought my Formd T1 was my ultimate case, but this one is just so good. I was settled for keeping my current rig for the next year or two but this is kind of lighting a fire in me to make another build now.

[@xXRusheR90Xx]

Same for me xD Probably it might not have the build quality of a T1, but i like the layout and I wonder if you could go watercooled with two rads, like in a NR200 but smaller…

[@insparks782]

@@xXRusheR90Xx The problem with the T1 is I just didn't anticipate GPU's becoming quite as huge as they have. I mean, a 4090 is doable with a custom loop but the T1 has kind of reached its limit. Which is a shame because I like it so much.

[@eleklovatka7666]

The chemistry between them is astonishing. It's like I'm watching a "silver" couple. This could even work out of context: - Oh my god, that's a little too much! - That is a lot of paste Adam! - I'm gonna wipe it, I'm gonna wipe it off! - It's gonna be all over the place! - I'm not done yet! GOSH! - What do you mean you're not done yet? You already got enough on there! - I'm gonna take some of it off, a little off the top, okay? - yeah, don't, no, what are you doing? - oh no! oh nooo! - These were all laid out? - So that I can re-screw them easy. There's like four different types of screws. - ... cool. - That's all you give to me? Not a sorry, not an oops my bad... "cool". - I don't wanna lie to you! So, yeah... I just love that witty back and forth between them.

[@captblankwhite3879]

Hi Linus I know you read comments, Just want to say that your content drives me to strive to do better everyday

[@cryyptick]

I've loved Adam on screen since his AMD upgrade, love seeing him on camera with Linus.

[@davidasteed]

I get the appeal for small form factor...but my every-ten-years-self-build-gaming-rig Shall Always Be A Full Tower With Glass Panel. The room to move about while building the thing is totally worth it. Otherwise the beauty sits in a single place for virtually it's entire lifetime. The few times I need to update it...again I have super tons of room to move around.

[@aspenshadow7920]

Fractal Design Ridge is still my favorite bc the amount of desk real estate it takes up is absolutely miniscule and you can get similar thermals. Maintenance is also easier bc everything is in its own chamber. Plus it just looks classy.

[@11-1LOVE]

i absolutely love the terras aesthetic and I wish I could build in it, but the dealbreaker for me personally is that it doesnt support radiators :/

[@JSharpie]

So what's next? A race to a smaller case chipping away nanometers like how speedrunners chip away milliseconds?

[@Definitely_Melnyx]

This is far bigger than most SFF cases. It’s design is just unique.

[@TheYedrimas]

Never found something better than the thermaltake core g3, cool airflow, good gpu clearance, full ATX board (still an sfx power supply). A bit tall, but super slim. Still in love with that one.

[@harryle4143]

If only there were more SFF options for us MATX users. 😢

[@notlNSIGHT]

AP201.

[@harryle4143]

@@notlNSIGHT EVEN MORE!!

[@johnuzoka6124]

ZZAW C2 SAMA IM01

[@titantyped69]

Inter Tech IM 01

[@titantyped69]

Jonsbo D31

[@VidalMoon]

I love Small Form Factor PCs. I'd love to see more videos like this!

[@GFDthatsMe]

12:06 linus mentions some cables i brought up in 2 or 3 videos that would help every sigle person that uses the nr200p max and this motherboard. It is the only way you can have sata drives in that case.

[@RageRaccoon]

Adam and Linus have a great synergy.

[@ChadKenova]

Small builds are cool looking but can be infuriating. Something is always in your way and you have to take 3 things out to get one thing.

[@vasileiospgr]

i remember that time i bought CoolerMaster Cosmos S full tower case for 150€ (new) and now a mini ATX case costs 200€... miss those good old days

[@TheAwakenHD]

Using an Asus motherboard good one @Linus Tech Tips

[@HyperScorpio8688]

Not gonna lie, as cool as SFF is I'd not be willing to deal with the hassles of building them and then worry about any repairs. At least not for a daily driver. ATX mid tower still wins to me

[@one_step_sideways]

Just get a Sama IM01 or IM02 case. It's literally NR200 but has perfect support for both ATX PSUs and mATX motherboards, making the total build cost a lot cheaper too. It's only a tad taller than NR200 to support the mATX motherboards and the 4-slot cards, compared to NR200's measly 3-slot design.

[@kse617]

Think about it this way: hassles are just fun challenges for SFF enthusiasts.

[@Definitely_Melnyx]

If you’re not disabled there is nothing to worry. It is barley harder than a regular pc and even as a first time build not that hard.

[@RolandsSh]

mATX is fantastic as well. I have an all AMD build (7700 and 7900XT) in Asus AP201, and it's amazing. Building in it was easy and fun, it has great cooling and compatibility, is significantly smaller than ATX tower, components aren't hideously expensive.

[@HyperScorpio8688]

@@kse617 I get it Here's the thing tho I'm not an SFF enthusiast, so that hassle is a red flag to me

[@christianlandmark2461]

My trick for warranty stickers is to take the bad boy out, and cut out a new sticker using a blank thermal shipping label and an xacto knife. Its brand new adhesive so sticks great, works everytime

[@kevinrucuch4652]

Is Linus wearing a Pebble Time Watch?

[@d_vzion]

I was gonna write this 99% sure

[@Icyblade01]

I miss micro ATX being mainstream ;(

[@richter-scale483]

Love the Summit Ice T shirt. That's a man who knows, and honors, history.

[@fmh357]

Great video showing off the DanCase. You two are hilarious together. Fun just to watch all the good natured banter. Linus, you are a bit mischievous 😆 Keep it up.

[@MrPruske]

some things never change. a lot of these parts are being sold by scalpers now right after the vid went up. i saw that psu a couple days ago, now it is about 400 on amazon from a 3rd party. XD good vid, also good budget itx case imo is the qbx by cougar

[@catwesker1576]

that's hilarious bro, i have a cougar mx200 modified it myself, cut a piece of plexiglass and put it on the side and put some cheap lights in it. rx580 8gb, i7-4790, 24gb ddr3, 700w psu, h97m pro 4 mobo, the whole damn build was $550.00, looks awesome and rocks 2023 games. people fr just be silly with this stuff now, me just sittin and smh lol.

[@minibeyse]

9:22 best course of action is to get IPA (isopropyl alcohol), use tweezers to get it off while adding ipa from the side and thel letting the ipa on the sticker evaporate. After a minute the glue will stick again and you can place it back. The trick is to be careful with the tweezers in the beginning not to damage the sticker at the very start

[@j.d.8593]

Linus: "Let's pair this 7800X3D with an Asus motherboard" Steve on the other side of the continent: "REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE' 🤣🤣🤣

[@jlirving]

LINUS @11:56 But what does the switch do? How could you do this to us? Who do I send my complaint to? What kind of serial killer does that kind us cut. Leaving us hanging!

[@th1jzzz531]

Asus motherboard and X3D… that can’t go well.

[@Im_bored_very_very_bored]

If ya know ya know there is a beta bios to try to fix it but still

[@leone2386]

I love Adam, I really do. His extreme tech upgrade made me laugh my ass off.

[@TwinkiWinki]

I can imagine how excited those guys are, putting huge things in the small cave ;)

[@sahelhossain7601]

Seems like a wasted opportunity not to have Dan co-host the episode building in a Dancase 🤷

[@ryanj610]

I feel like the audience loves Dan and Linus can't stand him (or at least his snark)

[@sahelhossain7601]

@@ryanj610 if that's the case then why does he let Dan do the Wan Show?

[@ryanj610]

Because Dan does great work. Linus gets too exasperated sometimes, unscripted I feel. Just look at the Christmas album clips, hah

[@MrJayyPlays]

Seeing Adam's shirt makes me exceptionally happy, love the repping of an apparel company that acknowledges the holocaust.

[@mycattookmykfc1488]

Huh

[@bradeinarsen]

I love the married banter during the build

[@TwoToedTom]

Appreciate how Linus lets his staff look smarter than him

[@jmilesfox]

Ok…

[@gl1tch8]

did something similar to an NR200P build I did a few years back, I had a spare bottom panel from another nr200 so I flipped the bottom panel with the feet to the top then flipped the whole PC over, put the second bottom panel on the other side and had dual radiators in that tiny thing. Also I cut the back panel out(right above the motherboard) so it fit a 120mm fan right above the mobo

[@mrwerder616]

Tremendous props to the camera manager for that perfectly timed focus pull at 20:09

[@matte_luna]

8:09 "i don't think i did anything wrong but here we are" sums up my life rn

[@TheHottabych23]

I've used White Cooler Master NR200 for my build. It's 18.25L case, looks nice and clean on my desk. But man, it fits Arctic liquid freezer II 280 AIO (the radiator thickness is 35mm, regular AIOs has 25mm), 4080 FE, R9 5950X (I built it before Ryzen 7000 series has come out). It's almost silent, idle CPU temp is 33 degrees Celsius, overclocked 100% load about 81. Without overclocking 100% load never above 71 no matter for how long.

[@falloncohen6814]

"you can put 5 screws in this power supply, that's plenty." wiser words have never been spoken