RTX 5000 Laptops are WILD

[@HCG]

Let’s be clear-the 5070 is really a 5060 and the 5070Ti is really a 5070. The specs line up far more than the way they’re currently named

[@sabyasacheebanik6018]

Agreed.

[@fullfoolfu7944]

Wishful thinking

[@wisdon]

Mobile versions are nerfed too

[@coment80]

Add the fact that the 5070 is probably just a much cheaper 4070 Super (according to NVIDIA slides, in raw performance, +20% more than 4070). With higher power draw. And with DLSS4...

[@HCG]

@@fullfoolfu7944 why tf would anyone wish for lower performance products marked as more expensive ones?

[@SPECTRA890]

As someone who wanted to get a 50 series laptop and doesn't like MacBooks. I'd rather just go with a MacBook. An RTX 5070 With 8gb is unforgivable

[@ivanbond8930]

It truly is

[@pajiq.gaming]

sadly it cant play any game in the same price

[@MrYaxalot]

@@pajiq.gamingmy m1 MacBook Pro plays a lot of games surprisingly well and I have a 4090 desktop

[@bankaimaster999]

@@MrYaxalot Then why do you have a 4090 desktop?

[@LCJammer]

@@MrYaxalot like what ? lol

[@technonecroplays]

with 8GB VRAM, its dead on arrival. 8GB on a 70 series GPU is a hard pass.

[@boburanus69]

People should have been saying that during 3xxx series nonsense. I have one of the only 3xxx GPUs that came with more than 8gb ram and I am one of the few people who will not have to upgrade this generation to keep playing games enjoyably. Well me, and the rest of the people at the top of the steam survey. xD So funny that a 3060 12gb is still the best card to buy in 2025. Will probably continue to be.

[@MaxMiller94]

feels like maybe they want to have fewer production lines so they're going super hard on production for the 80

[@ranjitmandal1612]

😢

[@boburanus69]

@@MaxMiller94 What it really feels like: Company is leveraging NOT hardware gains to sell future generations of graphics cards. Open GL cards, if you will. I have a GTX 980 on my wall, mounted as an art piece. I can pop it in my machine right now, load up any game I currently play, and aside from titles that force settings limits due to Vram limits (which tend to get overridden anyway), games will play about the same as on my 3060 with 12gb ram. That is to say: most everything will stay locked above 60 FPS, even on high/ultra settings, without fancy software features. I think people need to recognize 'what is good hardware performance' vs 'what is being generated by software' and stop supporting efforts to maximize performance through software. That's a driver thing. You make drivers better, things get more efficient. The side effect of this is that any generation of game that came before is likely going to run the same/worse when they can't benefit from software features they weren't designed to benefit from. Imagine 45 fps max in Crysis on a 5090.

[@gejamugamlatsoomanam7716]

5070ti has 12gb vram

[@NinjaKirikoJedi]

No conspiracy theory, but companies are always pairing Intel instead AMD X3D with 5090 for u know what reason

[@samgoff5289]

Because intel has been the dominant brand with an established production supply for decades and amd runs into supply issues every generation….?

[@zerocal76]

@@samgoff5289 "dominant brand" means B2B customer relationships which means "U better use our CPUs or else..." 😉

[@Venezuela305]

Is no conspirancy. Is a known fact. Everyone at this point already knows that the top end nVidia is always paired with Intel. Whatever the real reason why, is not with the consumer in mind. I mean, the choice is obvious. People speculate that Intel has a deal with nVidia, or with the laptop manufacturers, to stay relevant. And the deal is not really giving Intel the best terms, but keeps AMD away from the top end. Maybe is just fantasy, but the evidence is hard to ignore.

[@NotMrToast]

@@zerocal76yeah no

[@zerocal76]

@NotMrToast You don't know how work relationships and work politics function then. You're also saying no as if big corps haven't been caught before w/ things like price-fixing, inflating prices for no reason, or colluding 🤔

[@fourtii8707]

why no 5090+9955hx3d? why no 5090+9955hx3d? why no 5090+9955hx3d? I am beyond baffled.........

[@danebeee1]

Yes exactly!! All I wanted was a laptop with the 5090 + 9000 series x3d mobile chips and a oled screen. I haven’t seen one with all 3 yet.

[@Conflictful]

@@danebeee1 quite literally what I want and will buy on the spot

[@reilshat]

nvidia doesn't like amd processors

[@PowellCat745]

Intel pays OEMs to not feature flagship AMD products

[@PirateARRR]

XMG Neo 16 (XMG's flagship) will come with both Intel 9 and the 9955hx3d choices, the AMD version is only missing TB5, but will ship later than the intel version

[@Unicornpirate]

Intel blackmailing laptop OEMs is a thing. There is a new AMD x3d mobile chip coming out and it's only being paired with a 5070ti mobile at the best. Even though the same laptop can be had with a 285h and 5090

[@jaysmith9496]

Razer isn’t using intel for the Razer blade 16. Not everyone is kneeling

[@Unicornpirate]

@jaysmith9496 You aren't getting a 5090 in the blade. That's my point. You aren't getting any 9950hx3d laptop with a 5090. Intel knows that they can't compete with that chip gaming wise on the desktop space so they are holding on their grip on the mobile space which they have dominated for forever now

[@pattymcfatty0]

You can at least get the X3D with a 5080 in the MSI but that's an 18 inch model.

[@SkyFireAF]

@@UnicornpirateFunny, on their website Razer says up to 5090 for the new Blade 16, but ya it won’t be paired with a x3d chip, just the Ryzen 9 HX 370.

[@HCG]

Intel has always done incredibly slimy things like this. They’re an unforgivably gross company when it comes to shady practices

[@lolcat]

the 5070 is literally the exact same as the 4070, how is that anywhere near 4090?

[@andreshates]

that's what I was thinking, I'm keeping my 4070 laptop. it plays anything I throw at it.

[@HardwareCanucks]

Exactly.....its with DLSS4 that it becomes "near" an RTX 4090. Its really slimy double-speak.

[@AquaticBagpipe]

"Well if we just stuff more AI-generated frames in then it's *basically* the same performance". Fuck NVIDIA.

[@justiny6636]

They are talking about the desktop 5070 vs the desktop 4090 but its with ai on

[@martmeister]

The reference was to the desktop GPUs. The small print was with DLSS4 enabled and the next generation of frame generation where it can generate up to 3 extra frames as opposed to just 1 with the current generation DLSS3.5. The AI part of the GPU has been massively upgraded to help with the generation of those extra frames. As some people have spotted while seeing DLSS4 in action, it's not great. Nvidia were essentially just counting the number of frames in a game and comparing those between the GPUs. It's VERY misleading of course and has most people talking about it.

[@Chess9283]

Seems like I'll be waiting until 2028 for the 6000 series.

[@kururhai4531]

for imaginary frame technology

[@ninjatogo]

@9:52 From what I can recall, Intel's partnership with some of the manufacturers mean that they have agreed to exclusively use Intel for their flagship devices.

[@HardwareCanucks]

No idea what you mean. Hearsay? 🙃

[@anishkrishnan3979]

I have a laptop with a 4090. I dont think i would need an upgrade for years to come, because i think over time you can just reduce settings and keep using this.

[@mohamedahmed1023]

I also have a 4090 laptop. Yeah the 5080 is, at best, going to be comparable to the 4090. The 5090s will likely be eye wateringly expensive. Keep for 4090 laptop and skip this generation.

[@andreshates]

for sure, my 4070 Alienware X16 runs ervything just fine so I won't be upgrading.

[@tomoblasz2028]

I also own 4090 scar 18 mini led screen is just great, Not planning to change it, might build a desktop PC 5080 or 5090. Not a big fan of frame gen. I want to play cyberpunk in 1440p/no FG/DLAA/pathtracing in constant 60fps

[@blondegirl7240]

Even thinking about upgrading 4090 extremely dumb, unless you enjoy wasting money. 4090 is more than enough for QHD

[@HardwareCanucks]

No, you likely won't. That's why I made it a point to call out the performance uplift for this generation. Its good, but shouldn't cause people with 4000-series laptops to even think about upgrading.

[@fjorddenierbear4832]

That's cool and all, but when are we getting the RTX 6000 laptops?

[@lordhades9455]

Glad you mentioned screens and keyboards. I've sat out from upgrading my laptop due to the mostly garbage keyboards and lack of good screens out there.

[@Berecutecu]

There is a niche market that may start to see a boom this year with the TB5 introduction. Instead of getting a big, heavy, loud, scorching and battery hog gaming laptop with the Intel H CPUs supporting the discrete TB5 some may see a nice option to jump in the light, smaller, quieter, cooler and battery efficient laptops without dGPUs in combination with a future supported TB5 eGPU dock with a more powerful desktop GPU. This more portable approach is somewhat desired by many as kind of a single efficient solution replacement to the typical small non gaming laptop and a desktop gaming stationary combo. A unique device that rule them all with upgradable features would be a dream for my living style. I hope this channel may realize this type of gains in the future content.

[@michaozga7825]

There was no good ultraboooks announced sadly. With tb5

[@Berecutecu]

@@michaozga7825 I'm a believer that we will see some ultrabooks with TB5 in the upcoming months released. Intel just announced their lineup and manufactures will need to incorporate the new discrete JHL9580 controller into their design connecting it to a PCIe head. If that doesn't happen it is probably because the latency with the discrete controller doesn't offset the problems that we currently have with TB4 and we will need to wait to next year integrated TB5 chip that Intel will release.

[@ctsperformance1755]

Tbh I dont really think there will be a significant performance bump between the 4090M and 5090M, regarding the CUDA core counts I guess the uplift will be only around 10%... good job NVIDIA.

[@otrOptions]

Love to hear it as a 4090m owner ❤

[@ctsperformance1755]

@otrOptions same haha, but I am also disappointed.

[@justsam100]

I'm expecting the 5080m to beat the 4090m by about 10/15% (depending on wattage and cooling performance) and the 5090 will be around 25% faster at most. Which basically means I have no reason to replace my 4090m laptop, even more so because it already has enough VRAM to last an entire generation. Looking forward to RTX 60 series, 50 series will be a big skip for both desktop (I have a 4080) and mobile for me.

[@bartfratze9529]

i agree on native resolutions but the difference will be night and day with dlss and multgen. Im excited about the latency more

[@al151]

24 gb ddr7 ram with more cuda cores than a Desktop 4080 Super i would expect more with the 5090M!

[@mohamedahmed1023]

Seems like this will be an underwhelming generation. Overuse of intel chips and the likelihood that a 5080 will, at best, match the 4090 while the 5090 will likely be power-starved. Also, limited TB5 adoption.

[@paulschaaf8880]

Sounds like TDP numbers might be a good way to gauge the quality of the cooling system for laptops. I hadn't considered that but am currently considering buying one pretty soon to give me something to keep myself busy at work.

[@aaz1992]

That leaked Alienware Area-51 RTX 5080 laptop Geekbench OpenCL result is only 14% ahead of my Aorus 17H RTX 4080 laptop. A 14% uplift is laughably bad. Obviously, it's just a random leak. I'll be waiting for proper reviews before I come to any conclusions

[@ugurinanc5177]

Also 5090 is %40 better than 4090 with %30 more cuda cores. This generation basically focused on AI

[@4evahodlingdoge226]

1. The leak isn't a gaming benchmark leak. 2. It stated that the Alienware was on balance mode.

[@oguzhanm333]

@@4evahodlingdoge226 and the 3. drivers are not fully ready for now

[@lolcat]

​@@4evahodlingdoge226performance mode on laptops doesn't do that much

[@dqskatt]

@@lolcat true, power mode differ brand to brand. It's essentially non-comparable.

[@H4WK6969]

Is there such a thing as a quiet gaming laptop?

[@4evahodlingdoge226]

They all have different modes, it's only really in turbo mode with max fans do they get really loud. Some laptops are trying out new fans that make no sound, let's see how it goes.

[@romanplacek9425]

No.MSI GT73-year 2016.

[@dqskatt]

@@romanplacek9425 Counter arguement, ROG Zephyrus G14 and G16.

[@JoselitoBurrito]

Expensive, but yes. But you won't use them at their full potential obviously. Any with a 4070 or 4080 in silent mode.

[@dqskatt]

@@4evahodlingdoge226 Turbo mode are overrated asf, Balance/Performance mode are sweet spot.

[@EthelbertCoyote]

2025 is the first year as a 3d pro that I may be able to use a laptop for a good portion of my work at a price premium over destop for sure but so nice to have options.

[@pattymcfatty0]

Glad it seems like every single gaming laptop reviewer is calling out the clear bias towards Intel when the CPUs this gen are just not it compared to the AMD 9000 HX series.

[@chargedx5768]

on paper, yes, in practice intel handles more than just gaming thats why they always go for that instead

[@Will-sc3hw]

That's just cope. And is faster in all areas ​@@chargedx5768

[@jesusbarrera6916]

​@@chargedx5768like what?

[@chargedx5768]

@ multitasking, multicore speeds, compatibility with legacy systems, app optimisation, SPEED, its literally why intel owns 70% of the cpu market..lmfao....it wasnt until recently that AMD fanboys started being very loud with their whole "dont buy intel" nonsense, intel is still better than amd

[@pattymcfatty0]

@@chargedx5768 Intel always lost on X3D cpus and also lost in general for efficiency. Now they're losing speed as well with the Ultra series. Cannot fathom why anyone would want intel this gen and the sales clearly show that. Board manufacturers are just already partnered with Intel and now it's too late.

[@joelconolly5574]

Probable reason for AMD not to include the laptop X3D with 5090 is either availability, manufacturing focus solely on desktop or that they'd go with AI as the Ryzen AI 9 is "AI capable" whatever that means. A shame really. It would've been the perfect options for 18 inch laptops. This generation laptop is decent I supposed.

[@bitw00f]

I am not sure how I feel about them clearly reusing Scar 16 internals on the 18 inch version. You can physically see how the board and all components are shifted to one side, won't that create a weight imbalance? What about the extra space, is it just completely empty? Was it really that hard and expensive to give the 18 inch model a larger battery, better speakers, or better thermals/power delivery? It DOES have more space, so why not use it? :/

[@tanuj.mp4]

Still no haptic trackpads? Until this happens, macbooks will continue to dominate the productivity laptops.

[@HardwareCanucks]

The ProArt series will be getting haptics this year I believe.

[@chargedx5768]

dominating in the US only..yes...dominating world wide? absoloutely not, Lenovo and HP and DELL have the global productivity market by the throat

[@PreciousAlpschindler]

@@chargedx5768in Japan would be Fujitsu and NEC those are more fun than MacBook

[@SimonVaIe]

Correct me if I'm wrong, but while haptic touchpads aren't the standard, they have been used for years already in some models, no?

[@SaxandPC]

My laptop has a 3080ti in it at 150w (essentially the same performance as a desktop 4060 ti). Having the same performance and more cores than a 4090 is wild. I can't imagine they're going to be releasing 500w laptops, you'd have a 20 minute battery life and what sounds like a damn jet engine.

[@Frozoken]

it doesn't have more cores tho ur thinking of the desktop 3080ti. The mobile one has 7400 cores the 4090m has 9600

[@TalooshDaBoss]

9:26 Why did they do the same thing again... just like the 7945hx3d locked to the overheating 2022 chassis, only now they limit the gpu and for no reason.

[@PKperformanceEU]

Its just a new naming scheme the 5070m is the new 4060m. Its just smart way of upselling the low-mid tier 60version labelled as 70

[@syncmonism]

It's outright fraud

[@rolasleyva8602]

They also did the same thing with the 4000 series (in both laptops and desktop)

[@z7eleven]

To me it is no surprise the 5070 has the same configuration as the desktop counterpart, because the desktop part is completely underpowered compared to the top desktop chip.

[@thepan]

I'd forgive OEMs if they pair the 5070 with the best 1080p screen ONLY. It'd do wonders for 14 & 13 inch gaming laptops. 8GB on QHD high is already a pretty yucky experience.

[@qwertyqwerty-zi6dr]

5090 256bit and 24gb vram? It might be the first card with the 3gb modules

[@GuntasSingh]

KZbin just recommended me your video, this is a very perfect video, and my views very much match with what you said related to amd highest chips with 5090, also 1 thing that makes Intel chips better is WiFi 7, in amd it's WiFi 6E. Also I'm thinking to buy Asus scar 16 but i was disappointed to se intel the only option, should i wait? Do you think asus will launch X3D chip in the scar? I can wait max 6months

[@qganie]

One of the reasons this channel is different, you offer great videos like this that provides not only an overview of the technology, but a deeper analysis of industry. Keep up the fantastic work, it helps differentiate from other tech reviewers.

[@HardwareCanucks]

Thanks!

[@4evahodlingdoge226]

They need to up the tdp to 250watts instead of 175 watts, the bigger laptops can absolutely cool it if it does that.

[@NadeemAhmed-nv2br]

They'd become too big for people to buy

[@4evahodlingdoge226]

@@NadeemAhmed-nv2br Alienware new laptop is going to be 10lbs without the charger hahha, clearly some people want big laptops. My issue is that they charge the price of a 5090 desktop when it's half the performance.

[@uioRibaiasan]

​@@NadeemAhmed-nv2brI easily buy big laptop if it means better performance and cooling system aka longevity.

[@ryxen2159]

@@4evahodlingdoge226 power limits isnt the problem here, the 5090M uses the same die as the desktop 5080 (the 4090M did the same thing with the 4080) but with a lower tdp, so even with a higher tdp it would only match the 5080 desktop at best

[@4evahodlingdoge226]

@@ryxen2159 I get you, that's an issue as well but i don't think they can fit a bigger die into the laptop at least that's my assumption.

[@LeonardoAlexi]

I was disappointed that Razer didn't announce a new Razer Blade 18, and the rumored Dell Pro Max 18 was not announced either. These were the 2 models I was looking forward to the most.

[@vladislav_artyukhov]

I assume, that GPU lineup suggest using upscaling, like DLSS, for making 1080->2k, 2k->4k on laptops. These memory limitations is clearly describe it.

[@chasemartin3542]

Bought a Zephyrus G16 with 4080 on Black Friday instead of waiting for the 50 series GPUs and I’m happy that I did.

[@Sponsi_PL]

Wild will be the pricing...

[@gtd9536]

Lots of good stuff. Little to no fluff. You get to the point straight away. +like, +subscribe.

[@syncmonism]

Calling a laptop 5080 with more vram a 5090 is fraud, period.

[@vi683a]

The fous of most laptops, at least for gaming, was the GPU, which, at least for raster, has reached its limit for the time being. It is software now. Laptop manufacturers have to add new gimmicks onto laptops to compete.

[@NinjaKirikoJedi]

I don't think its supply use this time around. But amd and Intel are both using tsmc this time around, whereas before Intel makes its own cheap

[@wolfsaddle]

They could have ordered different volumes ...

[@chandrasivaram]

Im waiting for 5060 Laptops, i wish they will price 5060 laptops in 1300USD range.

[@takimara154]

I'm watching on my ROG Strix G17 with Ryzen 9 5900HX and RTX3070 and I still see no reasons for me to upgrade.

[@karanveersinghdulku]

The titan hx 18 looks insane in that etched dragon skin

[@okman9684]

Even if it's share price crashing Intel have money to spend on manufacturers to design their intel powered laptop better

[@pumpuppthevolume]

soooo when exactly ....some in January?

[@HardwareCanucks]

March or later.

[@glanerao1356]

MacBook Air M4 vs Dell XPS 13 snapdragon X elite witch is batter for longer term.

[@zafert85]

air

[@csharpcoffee]

I don't like apple but macbook air wins over current snapdragon laptops

[@csharpcoffee]

Dell XPS x86 are amazing windows laptops though

[@dqskatt]

Air M4 all the way

[@JaunAnsari]

As much as I hate macOS. M4 is definitely better if you're not gaming or doing AI stuff

[@PatchedUpGaming]

A month ago you titled a video "intel's budget GPU changes EVERYTHING" which was a sucky title and you didn't appreciate me saying so. Well, just want to say, this is a way better title. Emphasizes that there's something interesting to see in the video, and avoiding clickbait claims. Thank you. ^_^

[@Tom_Quixote]

It's just another clickbait title. What is "wild" about the new laptops? They are slightly faster maybe.

[@PatchedUpGaming]

I really wish we were seeing these crazy powerful GPUS in SFF sized desktop GPUS. It's awesome that these tiny little laptops with tiny little squealing fans are getting GPUS that draw 150-200W of juice full tilt. But man it'd be sick if a low profile GPU could come out that just smokes the RTX 4060 low profile. Seems like it's fully possible.

[@acardenasjr1340]

A 2023 4070 Laptop is capable of playing Stalker 2 @1600 High Settings. That's an excellent baseline for starter Laptops.

[@hungtao3873]

I dont want intel cpu with 5090, people go for 5090 they want the best, which is 9950hx3d

[@MuhammadFajrulUmam]

lets buy the 5070ti with 9955hx3d then

[@felixlechat1780]

The Best is super Nintendo Mario kart period

[@hungtao3873]

@@MuhammadFajrulUmam no best cpu with best gpu, 9955hx3d and 5090

[@MuhammadFajrulUmam]

@@hungtao3873 but can you get it?

[@randy2493-s6n]

I would be surprised if that msi will be able to handle 95w on the CPU and 150w+ on the gpu simultaneously with reasonable temps

[@deepantomyponnezeth891]

Hi, Do you know when the next group of laptops will be launched in 2025? I was looking forward to the ThinkBook 16P Gen 6 refresh.

[@HardwareCanucks]

Likely around March.

[@M_773]

Apple is missing out on not making silicone compatible with mainstream gaming. I probably wouldn't need a seperate desktop if they just made that possible.

[@michaozga7825]

Yeah same. Or anything to make anticheat work.

[@danielphillips1171]

Elukronis, XMG and other Tong Fang OEM's are going to take more market share this year.

[@saiksaikatai594]

simple question: how much will it cost to play at 4k 60fps on laptop?

[@radiobits3007]

Never understood people buying gaming laptops. Scope for upgrading parts seriously limited so depreciate very quickly vs massive price.

[@Tom_Quixote]

Many people use them as desktop replacements in small aparments where you can't set aside a room for gaming. But you can easily pack away the laptop when you need the dinnertable for dinner.

[@radiobits3007]

@Tom_Quixote sounds sensible. But for me, rather than lose £2k / £3k (or more) in depreciation over two or three years of owning the laptop I'd stash an upgradeable desktop under that table and pack the keyboard and screen away in between uses. And enjoy better performance throughout.

[@jursh3936]

for the razer blade 16 it makes sense too have the hx370 cause too me its like the macbook for gamers lol so that battery life when your not using that nvidia gpu is going to be very nice. but idk if the manufactures have confidence that they can get the x3d chips in volume cause i dont think that the 9800x3d is even available still xD

[@untoldtruthmalayalam2744]

Only 5070ti looks somewhqt good

[@lantech7709]

Yeah asus strix g16 $1899 Best Buy has 5070ti cheapest one on there so far.

[@jeffenad5412]

I am upset with Lenovo for not including the RTX 5070 Ti in the Legion 7i; it only has up to RTX 5070.

[@deepantomyponnezeth891]

Yes, I agree with you. I am also upset that there was no mention of ThinkBook 16P Gen 6, Yoga pro and Ideapad pro!

[@AirzGamingTTV]

I completely disagree with the intel vs amd assessment. The idea that "People don't associate AMD with high end" is a joke. This has not been true for gamers since the launch of the 5800x3d. Intel has since become the poster child for bluescreen corner cutting garbage

[@HardwareCanucks]

You seem to assume that the people who are shopping for gaming laptops at places like Best Buy, Costco, etc. have enough brand awareness to make that distinction. The lion's share don't.

[@AirzGamingTTV]

​@HardwareCanucks the comment here saying consumers lack brand awareness contradicts your whole #1 statement at 10:07 that I was referring to. My point is your statement that "AMD is not in the consumer lexicon as ultra high end" is baseless with no supporting evidence. If anything AMD's growth in marketshare and Intels plummeting stock price says otherwise.

[@Ryhillchibulls]

This content isn't for me, but have my watch time.

[@obikenobi]

If Nvidia went all in on DLSS4 to justify the 5000 series, is it worthwhile for us 4000 series to buy the Lossless Scaling utility from Steam to prolong the life of GPU? It has 4x frame gen too, doesnt it?

[@xXDeiviDXx]

Yes it's absolutely worth it due to the universal nature of the app which means you can use it on ANY game and even on movies and KZbin videos, also tomorrow the app will be updated with LSFG 3.0 which will improve the quality of frame generation by a lot (but don't expect similar quality or latency to DLSS frame gen).

[@shadik1998]

Frame gen is fake frames, you barely need the dlss3 version with one fake frame, let alone 75% fake frames in DLSS4 that do not react to the player's input.

[@fogz]

​@@shadik1998game goes zoom, human happy

[@shadik1998]

@@fogz Except game doesn't go zoom, it goes and responds slower. Only thing that goes zoom is the fake frame counter and artifacts on the image.

[@S85B50Engine]

It kind of sucks that next to no laptops are getting TB5, for example, Asus' new Flow doesn't have TB5 nor the older connector. Asus should have made the new XG Mobile with both the older connector and a TB5 connector (make it 2 cables or a swappable thing), because it will get bottlenecked by TB4 and USB4 (even though they say it works).

[@MyLeoOne]

Is there any 16" 5080 laptop with AMD CPU?

[@HardwareCanucks]

The MSI Vector, Legion 5 PRO and ASUS STRIX will all be 16" and offer AMD / 5080 configs.

[@turbotortoise7336]

I have a laptop with Iris Xe integrated graphics. Since I'm not coming from a previous Nvidia RTX chip, would it be more prudent for me to use the 5070ti or 5080 as the next step vs. going with the Nvidia RTX 40 series? My understanding is that if you already have a 40 series, you don't have much impetus to jump to the 50 series, but if you have something less powerful than the 40 series, going to the 50 series is a good step. Is that understanding correct?

[@wolfstorm5394]

Willing to bet the 5080 and 5090 will perform about the same as the 4090, unless they somehow got them drawing more than 175W, only difference will be the faster tensor cores needed for multi frame gen and the extra VRAM on the 5090 for when it matters. edit: i faking called it, lol i made that assumption before reaching the part of the video where he brings up the power draw, and sure enough 175W is the cap again, only frame gen will save the day, the 50 series might be the worse lineup in a while

[@Lo-KeyMuzik]

Im tempted to get a 5070ti laptop. Just have to see how extortionate the prices are 💀

[@AquaticBagpipe]

Or save yourself a boatload of money on a 40 series laptop

[@uioRibaiasan]

​​@@AquaticBagpipeYou really think that 40 laptops will lower their prices? Seems like that will be not the case.

[@918DEATH]

i didnt even realized that im still rocking 3000 series lol

[@ffrob2001]

in March of this year? I thought they were being released on Jan 30th?

[@And-vx6ry]

These laptop gpus should be done with 180-220watts 60-70watts cpu , triple fan design minimum for maximum performance.

[@HardwareCanucks]

At that point in time its just a worse desktop. ;)

[@And-vx6ry]

​@@HardwareCanuckswell yeah that what i want 😅, i like fat laptops. Love intel hx processors too ❤. I wish all the laptops had alienware graphics amplifier port. Would extend thier life so much.

[@yusmeow]

people have to note out that the RTX 5080 laptop has less 26.7% of cuda cores than the rtx 4090 laptop, plus the additonal GDDR7. The 5080 laptop are able to outperform the 4090 Laptop performance in recent leaks by a margin. So with 5070 laptop having the same cuda count and GDDR7 boost, it could be very well. One thing that's certain is the limitation of VRAM. It should've been at least 10 for it. However I can only buy 5050 or 5060 ;c

[@FromSoftwareStan]

With gaming laptops i usually buy a generation behind and save a few hundred dollars. I have a rtx 3070 laptop from Alienware that I bought for 1k. This might be the first generation where I buy a laptop that has the current GPU series in it. That 8gb of vram is the most puzzling thing for me on the 5070 as that will just cripple whatever work they have put into the gpu forcing you to use dlss4 and upscale to overcome that. I don't get why they just don't include more vram unless it really is just about upselling the top end of the 50 series. It certainly isn't a cost cutting measure maybe prices would increase 50$ with 12gb of vram instead of 8 but that's probably about it

[@MatthewCimone]

Really unfortunate as this was the generation where I was feeling ready to go AMD and was really hoping to go X3D with a 5090

[@djwolf7280]

Good stuff HC, one quibble though. For some reason, probably Nvidia marketing working its way into everyone’s brains, the 50 series keeps being compared to the NON-Super 40 series. That’s fine on the xx80 and xx90 series products, but the Super variants of the 5070 and Ti were significant upgrades over the original 40 series releases. Rtx 5070 and Ti CUDA cores etc should be compared against the Super cards, not the weaker parts that offered poor value versus their 30 series counterparts.

[@HardwareCanucks]

So you are saying....we need a concise GPU Specs Explained - Desktop vs Laptop video? ;)

[@djwolf7280]

@ well damn, you got me haha. I’ve been so looking forward to the hardware site that posts a good 40 vs 50 series comparison chart that I forgot I was watching a laptop video 🙈

[@nemesis7884]

how much will the perf. hit be with a zephyrus 16 5090 vs a strix scar 16 5090?

[@policeman5768]

Scar will have maxium 150w tdp while zephyrus will have 140w tdp. Idk 10w make diff or not?

[@dqskatt]

@@policeman5768 3-5% difference maybe

[@HardwareCanucks]

The SCAR will blow it out of the water. While the power specs LOOK similar, the SCAR typically holds to its maximum power for much longer periods of time.

[@lantech7709]

@@HardwareCanucksyep Scar all day and it's thicker of course

[@superfly4137]

geniune question here, what is the purpose of these gaming laptops if they cannot be powered say in a car or airplane? it takes a LOT of power to power these gaming laptops. the most you will have is around an hour or so of gaming without being plugged in, and try charging them in a vehicle or airplane or train as far as i know you just cannot. i mean why buy laptops for mobility reasons when you cannot be completely mobile? sure you can use them in building infrastructures such as hospitals, hotels, schools, coffee shops and maybe a far away relatives home, but is it worth it to spend thousands of dollars for that when you can get a gaming desktop which will out perform these semi portable gaming laptops?

[@RobloxianX]

the new 9955HX3D looks great but it isn't being paired with the 5090. Only the 285HX and other Intel CPUs are...

[@xImEnerGYx]

I was starting to regret my 4070 laptop purchase, but that 5070 looks very much as disappointing as it can get.

[@pvpgamerdotcom]

Can the 50 series laptop gpu encode AV1? Considering buying one to be a 2nd PC for streaming.

[@HardwareCanucks]

Yes, though the laptop 5090 doesn't have the desktop card's triple encode engines.

[@markmichaels5835]

So there isnt a single 5090 amd 9955 3d?

[@HardwareCanucks]

Not yet

[@Games_and_Tech]

How many halo 5090 laptops these companies sell that the supply of AMD CPUs is a valid concern ? 🤔

[@Games_and_Tech]

I mean, if they put them in the lower tiers, where they sell more units does it make sense at all?

[@samgoff5289]

If they are using them in the lower tier where they sell a lot more units, they can’t use magic to make more for using in higher tier laptops….

[@Mutarek93]

So I didn't make a mistake ordering a 4090 Alienware on Holliday season, is not it?

[@twotonekrazy7051]

There’s always going to be new tech coming out, just stick with what you have.

[@Tony-wz1qd]

We need a X3D laptop with a 5090 and oled.

[@mdaniel22]

Still no laptop efficient enough to run RTX 5090 with a 4K OLED screen 🤷‍♂️

[@therinwhitten]

I am sure the prices will raised even more, with support after purchase being harder to get. Yes I am jaded at this point lol.

[@DINOMAN1337YT]

I really hope msi lets me upgrade my rtx 4090 laptop to an rtx 5090 gpu and amd ryzen 9 x3d cpu if thats allowed cause i know you can upgrade laptops but I don't if thats limited to certain hardware or not

[@chrisbullock6477]

Exactly what I've been thinking from all the laptops being shown, at CES....Only new AMD CPU's with nvidia gpu's up to 5070 ti's ? Intel and Nvidia getting all that money again charging through the roof!

[@louisstanwu]

nRipia will be in some laptops but I'm pretty sure AMDumb is poised to dominate and Jensen can just sing a sad old song that he can't have everything. Thanks

[@happyreaper5562]

I need a 5090 to run solitaire and minesweeper at same time

[@CO8848_2]

The different chips for mobile vs desktop, but with the same names. That's awfully confusing.

[@syncmonism]

It is fraud, and yes, confusing to say the least. Porsche can't make two completely different engines, with one being significantly more powerful than the other, and give them the same name and sell the less powerful one using the same name in a different car, but somehow Nvidia is allowed to do this, because... well, I'm not exactly sure why, but it's clearly related to rich companies having an easier time getting away with breaking the law in some industries. The auto industry is more tightly regulated for whatever reasons.

[@ivanr9408]

although i got a great deal on my laptop i'm kinda feeling dumb for buying on black friday instead of getting a new 50 series. Granted i didn't want to wait till march.

[@timweydert3490]

What's so bad about having the same GPU architecture for 2 full years...? I hate this "everything needs to get updated every year" mentality. That's how you end up with incremental changes just for the sake of marketing, which pushes actual development aside...

[@HardwareCanucks]

Nothing is specifically wrong with it. But stagnation isn't good either.

[@Temmered]

Keeping my rtx 4080 laptop this lineup 💀

[@Tom_Quixote]

I'm keeping my 980M

[@JoshuaT902]

Time to slowly save up for these laptops.

[@sh4d20w]

2025 is when buying a MacBook for work and gaming makes more sense than ever 😅

[@tartarusbankai404]

RTX 5090 going for 25K on overclockers. Ridiculous.

[@Amiri2x]

6090..now we use ai to produce 6 frames..$2300

[@DemannuLive]

software is the future. how small or fast can you make hardware untill it gets too hot or breaks down. Hardware to run Software that boosts hardware. its a cycle and its beginning with the 50 series, people just need to adapt to the new way now. hardware GPUs are dead!

[@Star_Gazing_Coffee_Lover]

I want a PURE AMD gaming laptop, no over priced Nvidias bullshit.

[@HardwareCanucks]

AMD has basically exited the laptop GPU market.

[@Star_Gazing_Coffee_Lover]

@@HardwareCanucks That is so sad to hear.. Great video BTW!

[@lantech7709]

@@HardwareCanucksyeah I tried that Alienware 18 with 7900m so much power but the drivers were crap. Open box was only $1300 at Best Buy Clearwater fl but had to return in drivers so bad

[@yanshaoumo6076]

End of entry/budge level gaming laptops, 8Gb is a crime now.

[@dqskatt]

This maybe years of laptop, Imagine DLSS 4 Upscaling transformer model at 1080 balance or even performance mode may be viable option. This year battery life is going to be Insane