Really cool what you did with the fan lighting during the temperature section. Sweet.
@Patrick-jd5xj Жыл бұрын
The visuals for the testing section looked great and made things VERY easy to follow, props to whoever decided on that
@S7tronic Жыл бұрын
I had a silver Silverstone FT05, and a black FT02 before that. fantastic cases. one of the most underrated benefits of the rotated mobo/vertical GPU is no sagging cards, and great airflow with blower style cards. I had two 980ti's wedged into the FT05, with no major issues.
@Rai_Ngo Жыл бұрын
Holyshit the edit level of this video!!! True dedication from the creators is what makes their production feel so good to watch or in other word, Xịn!!!
@baoquoc3710 Жыл бұрын
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@Rai_Ngo Жыл бұрын
@@baoquoc3710 hehe hế lô bác nhá!
@hectorgonzalez4792 Жыл бұрын
i want to see 4 radiators on this case
@luciantermopan Жыл бұрын
yeah, it would be awesome to see Jay build the most overkill PC with quadruple rads
@swizzler8053 Жыл бұрын
@@luciantermopan Jay and his builds 😅
@z4k1_zaki65 Жыл бұрын
Keep an eye for a build from GGF Events!
@PlayingItWrong Жыл бұрын
It is nice to see the FT05 get name checked, I still use one and just like the fractal torrent it using 2 180mm fans is a complete cheat code for a well cooled pc
@jasonhicks9262 Жыл бұрын
I hear that, I'm using the Cooler Master H500M, with 4 200mm fans. Everything runs icy cold and at such a low rpm. So nice! Large fans are so underrated.
@tonydalimata Жыл бұрын
Im a big fan of the 90° motherboard design and chimney style airflow . This fan layout is very similar to what i end up doing with the tower 500
@flankenstein9467 Жыл бұрын
Just looks HUGE! Bet it will be amazing for custom loops. The TT Tower 100 is just so simple to build in and cable manage, plus its so thermally effective, its hard to justify going larger considering the designs of the larger series, if you are air cooling that is
@flyinhawaiian9174 Жыл бұрын
That would've been a dream case 30 years ago. Hell, even 20 years ago lol. Another great job Tt. 😆
@simoSLJ89 Жыл бұрын
TT is just a bad company overall. They killed CaseLabs, and they keep copying other products (like the Noctua A12, and many others).
@takemebacktothen Жыл бұрын
20 years ago you only needed one fan to cool a pc
@flyinhawaiian9174 Жыл бұрын
@@takemebacktothen Mm no. Maybe a pos prebuilt, but if you're into overclocking you've always needed multiple fans in a good airflow case.
@stevenpreston Жыл бұрын
I like the colour fans to show what fans were on for testing, but maybe in future you could have different colour for intake and exhaust.
@icywind32 Жыл бұрын
Love this case design. Been using my segotep 90 degree rotated case for a good 1 1/2 year now and love it. Love that they added more top, bottom, and side fan mounts on this case vs the segotep
@youtubesucksdicks9474 Жыл бұрын
Ouu, I REALLY liked how you tested multiple fan configurations and visually displayed it by lighting up the appropriate fans! I wish more reviewers would do this! This was a really clever and effective way of conveying this kind of information!
@warren2336 Жыл бұрын
Yeah, the way they demonstrated the configurations was really cool.
@Chris.Brisson Жыл бұрын
Perhaps next time we'll see blue fans for intake and red fans for exhaust.
@glkcox Жыл бұрын
I would try reversing the general flow. Take air in from the bottom and back then exhaust it out the front, side, and top. Give that GPU some fresh, cool air.
@ms3862 Жыл бұрын
Yep the most effective way for fans in this case is to have the rear and bottom fans in take and have all other fans exhaust - that includes exhausting out the front of the case, some people won't like air coming out the front but it needs to for airflows to work effectively in this design
@ZondaRbg Жыл бұрын
YES, this is will be the best!!! Right now is good only for custome water , to put radiators everywhere :D
@Nick-oc4qc11 ай бұрын
I am looking for a case right now....and wife has signed off on it lol. Was looking at 750 and xl mostly. I have a corner desk with a end table to the right. I told her due to the cableing, I would have to have the rear facing the desk and the front facing away. If air was in from rear and bottom and out was top and side/aio that would be perfect. Glass would face out. I really need good filters due to animals.....only neg is buttons would be by the wall.......which I'm fine with as I don't use them much.
@obliviondust2719 Жыл бұрын
If you got vapor chamber design GPU the way the GPU is mounted might negatively affects the performance
@andya.6482 Жыл бұрын
Nah
@csabauri351 Жыл бұрын
@@andya.6482 Yes
@Smallman647 Жыл бұрын
I think this gpu has vapor chamber. 75-80 degrees for a 4080 is very high temperature. Should be around 60-65.
@obliviondust2719 Жыл бұрын
@@andya.6482 I ran into this problem with Lian Li upright GPU kit and 3090TI, which as a vapor chamber design. It is solved by basically flipped the orientation but i dont think it's possible with this case.
@perdomot Жыл бұрын
I'd love to see Dmitri build his dream PC with today's components. Curious about his personal selections.
@Beary98 Жыл бұрын
This style case for the left side of the desk is even better. Segotep makes some, darkflash used to. We need more quality inverted cases (i prefer for left side of desk.)
@jvjh777 Жыл бұрын
How many fans do we need for a case? TT: YES.
@Opptnty Жыл бұрын
I'm excited about the potential of having a built-in PM 2.5 filter for PC cases. It would be a fantastic combination!
@PradyumnVij Жыл бұрын
I used to use the FT05 it ran really cool with the big fans at the bottom and was very quiet. I ran 2 hot SLI cards and an overclocked CPU all on air cooling it was great. The real difficulty was cable routing for the power supply was rather difficult.
@akaFlaw Жыл бұрын
Can you just try doing every fan flip flopped, meaning intake next to exhaust, so that no two adjacent fans are moving in the same direction (as much as possible)? Just curious how much a random airflow impacts the actual temperatures, if there's a lot of air moving.
@fauxbro1983 Жыл бұрын
Turbulent air will reduce the cooling capacity
@ferdgerbeler8494 Жыл бұрын
that would trash your throughput, yes, each fan would have more air moving across it due to no resistance, bout it would jsut create fresh air pockets around the outside and heatbomb the middle.
@pootinplays Жыл бұрын
@@fauxbro1983 yes I think he acknowledged it would not be beneficial. I assume he is just wondering how much is it affected
@IAmNumber4000 Жыл бұрын
Bah you beat me to the CTE head injury joke
@CoolColJ Жыл бұрын
it looks like the CPU is doing well but not the GPU, in this case. The GPU should running in the mid 60s without trying From owning a Silverstone FT02, some GPU especially the ones with vapor chambers do not like the vertical upright position. They can run 5-30 degrees warmer The Asus Strix for example is known to not like this position. KitGuru's review of this case had the Gigabyte Gaming OC RTX 4080 at 65 degrees, even at 50% fan speed under stress test
@ibot-u3s6 ай бұрын
i wish i read that comment before i get this case , my 3080ti speeds up to 92 degree less than 5 sec in benchmark
@csabauri351 Жыл бұрын
My 4090TUF card is 15C warmer in this 90degree orientation compared the the normal vertical layout , modern VGAs ( heatpipes / vapor chamers ) don't like this upside down position. Half of the heatpipes can't work against gravity. (The part above the GPU core )
@Beary98 Жыл бұрын
This layout flipped for the left side of the desk is the answer. Then intakes blow directly on the gpu Look at segoteps inverted cases.
@papabepreachin8664 Жыл бұрын
So you already have this case? How did you get it pre-release?
@Dexx1s Жыл бұрын
@@papabepreachin8664 it's been available for about a week now
@JiaNaDaRen15 Жыл бұрын
Thank you so much for the review. I was glamorizing this way too much and to see that unless you max the thing out, the temps aren't really that much better than another case, I'll just stick with what I got.
@stuartburton1390 Жыл бұрын
Really good concept with today's power and heat hungry CPU and GPU's, definitely a great option over the 1000D from Corsair with the ability to have that many fans at your disposal. Water cooling it could be fun aswell, Would be a great follow up video if it's possible.
@vlad_8011 Жыл бұрын
So there is one field to improve - I had ALTA F1 from Silverstone and there is one condition for such cases - TT fulfills all, except one - access to the I/O of Motherboard and GPU. I personally think this is one of the best cases, if the price will not be too high - its COMPLETE case with all dust filters, its a pity we have plastic on the top (where all heat will cumulate and exit - plastic "shouts" (reaction to temperature change) is inevitable with time). But that top can be made better - TT, if you reading this - if motherboard and GPU are lowered to accommodate stiffness of the cables, just put some big bar from case front to case back, that will block the vision through tempered glass. After this remove some structure overload and you will get more clearance for cable management near I/O's. Dont forget to give user some velcro stripes for the cables out there (on top). With all that said, to get case top metal structure you can get standard case back side (with standard atx cutouts + 1 for additional fan) and reinforce structure by making it thicker (that top panel) or by adding some structural beams. Or create that panel with welded beams.
@MillisecondFalcon Жыл бұрын
I never noticed this before but "Airflow From The Rear" has an acronym that is an anagram of the word fart! You DO learn something new every day after all!! 👀 😁
@seikojin Жыл бұрын
Why not have the vertical fans next to the GPU to be an exhaust. Since it really didn't matter to the CPU.
@timkey87 Жыл бұрын
Keep in mind that this 80 degrees is GPU chip temperature, video memory is usually 15-25 degrees hotter. The only effective way to lower high GPU temps is to replace shitty stock thermal pads and paste with high quality 3rd party ones like Thermalright or Gelid Solutions. No need to spend hundreds of dollars on fancy cases, most basics cases with 2 140s in and one 120 out can provide decent airflows just fine. Removing dust filters and front panel can drastically improve airflow, but this is kinda personal thing.
@XPEHb Жыл бұрын
Interesting (not really) case. Very interesting (really) video. Great montage.
@Simon-tr9hv Жыл бұрын
If they allow you use a riser that flat mount gpu so all gpu heatsink fin is horizonal and use front side and bottom for intake then exhaust through top and back I think it's way more ideal
@luckygirl1561 Жыл бұрын
yeah isnt better to have rear as a exhaust ?
@DrMuFFinMan Жыл бұрын
Really like how you tested all the fans with the illuminated ones being the tested fans.
@thierryfaquet7405 Жыл бұрын
A totally over the top custom loop build with 4 rad ? Yes please
@ninjapirate47 Жыл бұрын
I love that Chris Pratt takes time off movies to do these videos.
@warren2336 Жыл бұрын
Neat concept. Wild overkill if you're not overclocking, but a very effective solution to the problem of having too much money.
@garyc52456 ай бұрын
I've got this case coming for a HEDT PC build and awhile back I watched your fan performance review. Would be interesting to scrap the Thermaltakes for the top performing fans from that video and see what the impact would be.
@ab185 Жыл бұрын
Fantastic video and testing, thanks for making this video!
@datdudeinred Жыл бұрын
I think a full shroud directly pushing 3 fans air into the gpu would improve it even more. Also a shroud for hot air exhaust fan on gpu directly exhausting through the bottom fan on side mount would be icing on the cake.
@rileyhance318 Жыл бұрын
I kind of want to see all fans set to intake on sides, bottom blocked off or set to intake, and top with no fans and open/mesh
@thestrykernet Жыл бұрын
Greatly appreciate the various configurations, but the other one I'd be curious about is all but the bottom fans. Really glad you brought up the medical meaning of CTE, and looking forward to you getting your hands on the smaller models in this line.
@Hope-gd6rm Жыл бұрын
Great video and editing but, how is the 13700k running at or below 60C? Idle temp? At 100% load it will hit ~ 95C even with a 360 aio! If it’s idle temp then I don’t understand why you included that.
@donkeysunited Жыл бұрын
Good for looks, I guess, but a horribly expensive way to get very little benefit in cooling. All you really need is: 3 fans in behind a full mesh, 1 fan out, positive airflow.
@ph11p354010 ай бұрын
I picked this case up at Memory Express not realizing what it's true nature is. It's almost a shock with number of major changes I have to adapt to and learn. Overall, mostly good changes but connecting the motherboard rear to the outside is really cumbersome. At least most fan configuration create positive overpressurization to keep the dust out at the minor sacrifice to total air cooling. It's a very sexy case once you cram with an AIO CPU liquid cooler kit even though I am not a big fan of such unreliable kits (their pumps suck and break down in a couple of years)
@righteousone845411 ай бұрын
I really appreciate these fan config scenarios
@Cab8819 Жыл бұрын
my dude just exhaust the fans on the rear (next to the gpu), intake the 3 fans on the right side of the case, that should move the heat saturating the gpu along the glass(as heat mostly dissipates towards the left (glass) side of the case) without losing cpu temps.
@nadtz Жыл бұрын
Had one of those silverstones and now have a Torrent, having big fans on the bottom and no glass/rgb puke with the Torrent and good temps on air makes me a happy camper.
@CookieManCookies Жыл бұрын
I think they made a mistake upselling the 750 when the 500 seems like a much more compact, and functional case.
@JCBeastie Жыл бұрын
Honestly, this product just makes me want Silverstone to resurrect the vertical flow Fortress cases.
@hoof8670 Жыл бұрын
GPU I/O ports upwards is no go for any vapor chamber card.
@aaronmcneal1698 Жыл бұрын
I would honestly run the front fans as exhaust
@waytoolegit99 Жыл бұрын
It reminds of Antec's Lanboy air that came out like a decade ago
Fantastic Case. The only downfall was you cannot mount the radiator inside on the side panel exhaust. A 360 or like mine H170i Capellix with fans inside running as exhaust blocks the ATX power cords [CableMod] from coming through the case pre cut slot. There is no pre cut on the mounting bracket for the intake and output tubes for the radiator to be mounted outside by the wiring case area. So I used tin snips and a file and was able to mount the radiator outside and the fans inside. Running in idol the 13900k at 5.5 OC is 30 to 34 degrees RTX 3090Ti Suprim is 28 degrees. Full boar gaming with iCUE set on extreme cpu averages 78 degrees. Best case over the many others i have ever used.
@Bart230 Жыл бұрын
You should try with no exhaust, just 3x3 intake front, back and bottom, then leave top and side unpopulated. Or only exhaust with top and side populated.
@ChrisM243 Жыл бұрын
Interesting concept. TBH, I'd prefer a case with this many spots to place a 420mm radiator with a standard layout. I wish they'd make that as well, same size as this one but regular orientation.
@icharliesalgado4 ай бұрын
It has regular orientación if you want even whit an e-atx fits in regular and 90° degrees to
@VektorVirus Жыл бұрын
Silverstone like, ’wait, who dis?’
@brokegamer5587 Жыл бұрын
If only phanteks brought out a 140mm version of the t30…😉
@generalgrevous2458 Жыл бұрын
If we are having a dic...I mean a fan measuring contest, the obsidian can use 24 fans.
@ayankga Жыл бұрын
It would be nice if you color coded the RGB fans for better illustration. ex : blue for intake, red for exhaust..
@ferdgerbeler8494 Жыл бұрын
Ummm, the 011x dynamic/metalligear neo qube already does that with normal mobo orientation, since the powersupply is moved behind the motherboard, it leave the bottom open and draws air through the bottom, across the video card, and exhausts it out the top..
@ChronischKomisch5 ай бұрын
i used the same config for the fans :) works easy :) love the case ^^ but you need long cables
@walker193356 Жыл бұрын
Been waiting on this case. Now I’m buying it
@theallendmix9987 Жыл бұрын
I feel like this video would benefit from a comparison to a Lian Li case. We would see if there is any actual improvement.
@johndicus123 Жыл бұрын
I like the concept. Just like the PSU's with cables plugging into the side instead of the back, it makes some sense. I like my BeQuiet 900rev2, because I have 4 bays with 2 SSD's each for storage of my massive art collection. But I think BeQuiet ought to consider retrofitting the 900 cases for this. The cable attachments are a bit awkward.... but I suspect once built, for most folks it's not too often you need to change things a lot.
@SerjSam Жыл бұрын
Computex 2023 BeQuite ;)
@ApexPredatorDMZ4 ай бұрын
i have same case with 11(14cm)fans + 420 aio and i can tell you aio is mandatory since gpu heat is exhausted directly into cpu heatsink.
@bfox135 Жыл бұрын
REVERSABLE FANS?!?!?! FINALLY!
@ratuldeoun7228 Жыл бұрын
CTE also has another acronym which is Career Technical Education 😂
@DionSiswadi Жыл бұрын
Highly anticipated review. Thanks Dimitry and teams.
@ferdgerbeler8494 Жыл бұрын
Man i wish those reverse flow fans were reasonably priced.... 14 of those fans costs like, what, 3 is $100, so 12 would be $400, so, $466 just for the fans for that thing?
@phatmeow776410 ай бұрын
i can see long term the fact that its a pain just to unhook stuff from your mobo rear ports in this orientation/case gonna be a huge con...
@VEN0M415 Жыл бұрын
I always wanted to see this orientation with the gpu in the back but I had an idea for vents (leading to a fan at the top) that could be positioned to cover the exhaust sides/area of a gpu to extract the hot air instantly to avoid mixing with the case air.
@TalesOfWar Жыл бұрын
I get around 80º C under full sustained load on my 4080 in my run of the mill Corsair 5000D.
@jackbrian299311 ай бұрын
I love the looks of TT cases but they really need to do something for the GPU temps...
@itsdeonlol Жыл бұрын
That's a HUGE case!!!
@damncritics Жыл бұрын
Man case manufacturers really need to get some people with basic engineering knowledge on board because frankly, the layout of this is abysmal. The whole chimney setup is just wrong in the context of modern high-end GPUs with flow-through heatsinks. In this configuration, you've basically no choice but to exhaust the hot air from the GPU right into the intake of the CPU. There is no way to get clean, cool air to the CPU in this case. A traditional layout but with the CPU fan flipped around to take air in from the rear would be a lot better. Then both the CPU and the GPU have their own cool air supply and exhaust into the front of the case, allowing for much easier exhaust configuration. You wouldn't even need too many fans, just enough to get the GPU and CPU the air that they need, and one or two fans to exhaust the hot air. This is a configuration that's commonly used in the NR200, which allows for extremely good cooling using just a couple of fans. On a full-sized case, you'd have even more options. For example, you could provide modular paritions to prevent the GPU exhaust from mixing with the CPU, a space below the GPU to stuff a shitload of side-mounted fans to increase the air pressure on the GPU intake, modular ducting systems, etc.
@CoolColJ Жыл бұрын
The Silverstone Alta F2 did it right
@Dexx1s Жыл бұрын
Well, this was kinda made for water cooling. At the very least, the CPU has to have a radiator. For a custom loop, as I'll be running in it, there's be no problem at all. For air cooler, the smaller C700 would make more sense, since the fans by the motherboard are removed, so the front fans are much closer to the the CPU.
@riba2233 Жыл бұрын
Unfortunately this case has a major flaw, this GPU orientation doesn't work well for most of gpu coolers and you will see around 15c higher temps. And no amount of fans will fix that... So you have case that is too large, has too many fans that add to the cost but you still get worse thermals compared even to really small cases. Dmitry great review as always :)
@JakobJancic Жыл бұрын
yup. Had to rotate my old FT02 case because of this problem. Its a great concept, but most modern GPU cards are unfortunately not compatible with this orientation.
@tomhartney403 Жыл бұрын
I was completely set on this case to cool a 4090 until I saw a comment like this on another video - a few hours of investigating later and it does appear to be an issue. It is a common issue with small form factor barebones cases with 90 degree mounts. People tipped their cases 90 degrees to a standard rotation and temps dropped 15 to 20 degrees.
@riba2233 Жыл бұрын
@@tomhartney403 yeah, and it is sad that large manufacturers are not aware of this issue, and they have multi million r&d budgets
@stereoDoza Жыл бұрын
Nothing will be better than standard location mobo and gpu with tower cooler on gpu.
@dexter89623 ай бұрын
This case design have great features and good air intake good for cooling GPU and CPU but it have also huge problem with exhaust. Not enough space for top exhaust.
@LucasGomez10 Жыл бұрын
Idk how much r u paying the editor/ cameraman, but u r not paying enough. This is art. Incredible work!
@KurtKaato Жыл бұрын
This case has a bracket to hang the GPU facing out, I really wanted to see if that made any difference in the thermals.
@alias5152 Жыл бұрын
I don't think this thing can outperform HAF 700 with 13 fans.. Dimitry pls test it.. you have one! 😁 I have that case but also an old system ( saving for new one ) so i can't compare it.. Btw pc looks cool and "odd", i like look of it.. but i think they can't figure out how to cool properly gpu.. Would be perfect with some custom made heatskink for gpu, which will have lenght of 120mm fan and fans can blow through it.. that will have big benefit in this config ( in theory lol ). but how gpu's are designed right now.. no matter where or how you put it it will have the same temps.. fans hit the fins and goes on sides.. Maybe i cross now in science fiction but would be more logical we have third party gpu heatskinks/fins which was longer and you can force air through them, not into them..same principle what we have for CPU heatsinks, just not to be in that shape ofc.. idk that's just my thoughs 😁
@mikeoleksa Жыл бұрын
I see some outer chassis resemblance to the TT View 51.
@TekRaiderz-qh5ic Жыл бұрын
I just want/need a new case with some hot swappable front drive bays.. The server type are stupidly expensive. They could have easily put some vertical on the front right side of the case. I use icydoc's with hot swap sata drives and even a optical drive for long term storage etc.
@PatchedUpGaming Жыл бұрын
I get the string-plucks each time there's a fan change but on headphones it was massively unpleasant.
@glenjo0 Жыл бұрын
Put some HEPA filters on that and it could double as a CR box too!
@karrde593 Жыл бұрын
Im in my early 40's.. at what point did enthusiast hardware leave the realm of "need".. I think i might be 15ish years too late to come back. My case before my last case was the corsair 800d, so was interested in another monster case. I just wish there was a real effective need, or something you couldn't do.. that was enabled by something like this, or with enthusiast hardware in general. Like it was a few decades ago :)
@karrde593 Жыл бұрын
@Muljz Crasho My current favourite cases is the one with wood on the front (reviewed here) and anything by inwin (though they don't review well at all). Inwin are great, they actually are brave enough to make "homer simpson car" cases where noone else will..
@Ganym3de Жыл бұрын
To further illustrate what fans are on, the ones being run as exhaust should have their lights to red.
@ToneRetroGaming Жыл бұрын
I can't save this to my favorites
@archelonprime Жыл бұрын
I don't know if I would get this case, but I like the visuals and editing of this video! I found it cool (no pun intended) to see the various fans "light up" to emphasize the different temperatures that were achieved.
@infinitywulf Жыл бұрын
I'm not surprised in a way that this is a Thermaltake case as it somewhat reminds me of my Core P6 case. I actually run 12 fans in that, but it is normally near silent due to the airflow being so good. I do eventually need to get some of those swafans though, I'd love not looking at the back of some of my intake fans.
@suvobairagi6952 Жыл бұрын
How about front exhaust, top 240mm liquid cooled gpu exhaust, bottom -back intake, .... Wonder how would it perform.
@NightMotorcyclist Жыл бұрын
Thermaltake needs to make an updated Core V21 cube case as that also has really great airflow due to the mesh sides (save for one side being a plexiglass window) and I can orient the fans anyway I want (with the front intake being a 200mm low RPM thus silent fan). This has helped me keep an air cooled system at the 40C mark in the middle of summer.
@aeon774811 ай бұрын
I love this case, it would have been fantastic if it just had better cable management, unfortunate, I would have loved to be 100% convinced, I planned to run it inverted because I have a left desk and I don't mind the power cable going in from the front, but the usb cables coming in as well would be too much.... ughhh
@TremorBoria Жыл бұрын
I am gonna fill it with Noctua’s NF-A14 iPPC-3000 fans… This is the way
@thomasnguyen288 Жыл бұрын
What if you make a custom venturi shrowd from the gpu exhaust to a exhaust fan directly? Like 3D print one?
@tonyd7164 Жыл бұрын
With all that internal volume they should have made a separate gpu enclosure to separate heat sources. Case fail.
@typerightseesight Жыл бұрын
Is that literally what you have to do to get people to run a vertical mount cpu cooler hahaha
@snizer11 Жыл бұрын
Innovations is really good when applied.
@icy2527 Жыл бұрын
GPU high temp may be the problem from GPU's heatpipes orientation.