This DDR4 Kit will blow your mind! (Ryzen RAM OC Tutorial)

[@Kelekona_808]

The cancel/delete button mashing cuts were 100% win

[@sp00n]

I wonder, why does everybody always mash that key? For me it just works with pressing and holding down the key. 🤷🏻‍♂️

[@MakeSh00t]

@@sp00n Holding the key it is not ok because BIOS settings are turning on..,. and you can damage VRAM if you have to much overclocked MB... Always press.. never hold

[@sp00n]

@@MakeSh00t What? 🤨 Damaging the VRAM (did you really mean Video RAM?) by holding a key? Where did you get that from? Being able to damage anything on your computer just by pressing and holding a key would be a huge design flaw. At worst it just wouldn't register or it might be registered as a "stuck" key.

[@MakeSh00t]

@@sp00n VRM OR VRAM OR CPU .. YEs.. it sends to much signals to the motherboard.. and unproper Overclock can damage MB OR GPU easy.. Most people have not stock gpu memory and cpu... And keyboards mouses are 1000 hz 1000 hz.. it means a lot of VOLTAGES on bios start...Keys are made to press not to hold.. With a reason.. he is pressing... not holding. Hold ur key and press u will notice lag when u hold.. it is not ok on bios start.

[@adamtajhassam9188]

You know i just hold the f2 button down its much more peaceful - no need to mash shit

[@mauriciob8260]

Best mem tutorial for Ryzen 3000 I ever seen , thanks bro. I already push my X370 Asus Crosshair VI Extreme to 3900mhz with Bdie memory

[@HardwareNumb3rs]

Mauricio B too kind! Thanks 🤟

[@cgsather3309]

There are tons of Ryzen Ram overclocking tutorials but this is the best I’ve seen, hits the sweet spot between too much information and not enough. This brother is clear, organized, gets to the point and has good communication skills. I’ll try to overclock my memory now, then I’ll look for his other videos.

[@Laviathan50]

I've never Overclocked a CPU manually let alone a Memory kit. However, thanks to this tutorial, I successfully overclocked it from 3200 mhz to 3600 mhz like you suggested and I managed to get everything right the first time.... At least I think I did. I guess I'll find out if it's really stable when I do run a dungeon.

[@PyromancerRift]

Dude ! DUUUUUDEEEEEEEEEH ! You're the best. DOCP was unstable untill i did exactly what you showed. It is the same 8GB Edie as your ram but it's the latest ballistix and since it's a micro ITX build i opted for 32gigs. I was not able to run them as the rated 3600 CL16 but it worked ! I love you #nohomo.

[@erasmo84]

Thank you, best mem timing tutorial I've seen. Troubleshooting the problem is the most difficult part and nobody is explaining how to do it. Thanks

[@budgetking2591]

Your kit performs better then my crucial ballistix 3600 c16 kit

[@JT_6233]

Very informative video! I was able to overclock my Crucial Ballistix 32GB (2x16GB) 3200Mhz CL16 to stable 3600Mhz CL16! Should I go further? I mean currently, I am playing in 1080p with 4k Textures thanks to NVIDIA DSR :D Do you think RAM Latency and Speed also has a major impact on SLI performance? (2x 1080s in my case)

[@-eMpTy-]

All newer 3000 CL15, 3200 CL16 and 3600 CL16 Micron ballistix kits are also Micron E-Die. Picked up a 16gb 3200 CL16 kit with RGB, 65€ and does the 3800 fast preset without problems, 1900 IF on my 3600. Pretty good. Only thing that's mediocre about E-Die is the relatively high tRFC.

[@OdinHardware]

I too own this kit with same spec. One word - Fantastic !

[@murraypattison7471]

I followed this step by step but my bios resets every time I try to save the timings. I have Corsair Vengeance 3600MHz and a Gigabyte X570 Aorus Elite. Any ideas?

[@HardwareNumb3rs]

What chip do you have on that kit?

[@murraypattison7471]

@@HardwareNumb3rs the kit has c-die. There are 4 dimms too.

[@marceloagbaba7091]

Hello, I have question. I have HyperX Fury CL18 (Xmp is 3200mhz) DDR4 16Gb, Ryzen 5 3600, and mbo is Asrock B450M PRO4-F, is it possible to OC to get stable 3600mhz? I tried regular 3600mhz timings with xmp profile enabled and tested with 1.35V and 1.40V, I can boot PC but after some time while I am in game, PC restarts. I was just wondering can I get stable 3600mhz

[@marcrossignol3712]

Hey, I have a question regarding my RAM overclock. I bought a HyperX 4x8gb 3200Mhz CL15 kit that has Samsung C-Die but I can't find any information concerning that die. I ended up putting Samsung OEM in DRAM Calculator but can't find a solution to get past 3200Mhz CL16 in manual overclock. Any idea about that die and how to optimize it ? Edit : Forgot to say it but thanks for the video anyway !

[@itsdannyftw]

Great video. 13:26 - what did you say? 'you can start troubleshooting by using the ...'? tera tables? Alternative tables? So the 'termination block' (do you normally try different alternatives here too?), tRFC, voltage, etc?

[@francisbawasanta6310]

Great tutorial. It would have been nice to see a before and after real world fps or render comparison to see what kinda of gains we're expecting. How much getting the latency and clock speed perfectly benefits Ryzen performance. Like you did with your 3300k vs 7700k video. Maybe you can just tell us? What were the tangible real world gains in applications? Thanks. Your videos answer all the important details some of the other big tech channels just skip over. Very much appreciated your instructive style.

[@rodrigobiz]

Man there is a leak that says the new infinity fabric will do 4000 MHz 1=1. Would This kit reach 4000 mhz more relaxed timings and more voltage?

[@dendenpostalao7395]

You should deserve more subscribers bro! Let's give him a big applause for being so informative even with these little details! You're the only one who did this! 🙏

[@HardwareNumb3rs]

Denden Postalao Thanks! 🤟

[@bumboclat]

sadly it gets confusing after you fail with the fast 3800 profile at 13:00. now you say you tinker around, but that is what I expected from the video. instead you jump right to undervolting. but how do you tinker around in order to get an unstable config stable again?

[@silentx9709]

The crucial ballistix sport lt 3000mhz AES model (E Die). Can get to 3733 on ryzen 1st gen and cl14 3200 to 3600. Also it can hit cl12 3066. I got the same micron e die kit ballistix sport lt ans clocked it at 3733 cl16 scores 66ns r5 1600 4.1ghz.

[@silentx9709]

@@АндрейПанз 1.42 volts. Where do you want me to post the screenshot? I don't like linking things because people don't trust it.

[@silentx9709]

The timings are CL 16-19-16-16-31-51 CR1 (3733) and the highest speed I can hit is 3866 while maintaining the 1:1 ratio. 3733 is doable on all ryzen platforms but this ram can hit 3800 on 1st gen and 3866(unstable at 16-19-16-16 1.44) .

[@silentx9709]

@@АндрейПанз prntscr.com/pqjfu2 This was the Dram Calculator timings before I tightened them to score a 64-66ns score. You can get much lower latency on a 2600. I'm assuming around 55ns on a 2600. And here's the 16gb kit, I tested that one in the single-channel mode because I was also testing the R3 1400 which obtained the same 3733mhz. www.newegg.com/ballistix-16gb-288-pin-ddr4-sdram/p/N82E16820164107?Description=Ballistix%20Sport%20LT%2016GB&cm_re=Ballistix_Sport_LT_16GB-_-20-164-107-_-Product

[@silentx9709]

@@АндрейПанз You're welcome :)

[@leandrorberto]

You can also click on "screenshot" and send that to your e-mail. Then display the image on your phone.

[@glittlehoss]

Getting 64ns latency out of my 3733mhz at flck 1866 using dram calculator. Vol is at 1.42 and gear down is enabled. Happy oc'ing.

[@Bramon83]

It is not quite boring!!!! Omg I miss this!

[@Dj-Mccullough]

The repeated use of the "Delete-Delete-Delete-Delete" button hit, just totally made me realize.. PC techs have a gesture that is uniquely ours. LOL. I dont know of anyone else who uses that key in that mannor.

[@hanswuat1245]

which ram test program is this for 9€ that you talking about? icant find it.

[@gamemantri5261]

hii i have ryzen 2700x with msi x470 gaming carbon bro and 32 gb gskill 3200mhz trident ram. when i enable xmp my computer works fine but after shutdown it wont reboot after cmos reset computer booted up. so please help me out how i can run my ram at 3200mhz.

[@heiopei873]

Thank you for an easy to follow overclocking guide on Ryzen 3000. It seems like that all the proformance-enhancing stuff just got a whole lot more complicated and wired with the latest generation of Ryzen. I think this isnt going to do Amd any favour. I have a question tho: The caculator suggests that you enable Gear Down mode AND set the Command Rate to 1t. Buildzoid mentioned that you should not bother with 1t und just enable Gear Down Mode. What do you think? Should you strictly follow the settings of the calculator? P.s. Legends say that you are still mashing the delete button. :D

[@HardwareNumb3rs]

Heio Pei haha the delete button, love that clip, need to use it for other video too 😁 Regarding 1T I saw that Ryzen loves 1T, most of the time you must set 1T to be fully stable, the calculator isn’t perfect and some value may be different, but is a very good start, and if you don’t need to push the very limit, for 99% of the people is the way to go. Referring the CPU OC this generation is even easier than before, unless you need to do heavy multithreading, the best option is to leave the cpu in auto, to preserve the boost, even PBO is still broken, so the main focus for performance is the memory

[@heiopei873]

@@HardwareNumb3rs But what about Vcore? Isnt the Auto stetting just pulling waaay more voltage than it should? If you have a 3200 Mhz kit on X570 should you start at 3200 Mhz or at 3600 Mhz like you did?

[@HardwareNumb3rs]

Heio Pei auto vcore and cpu at default can boost higher than any manual overclock and the voltage can spike up to 1,5V to sustain that clock, but it’s normal since the sensors inside can change voltage and frequency even like 1000 times per second, is made that way, and it’s very efficient, nothing to worry about. For the memory, with a nice kit like the sport LT 3200 or better I’ll start with a 3600 and raise, with a lower binned kit is better to start at 3200

[@Shise-]

I'm baffled how you don't have that many subscribers. Great video either way for rookie ram oc'ers

[@Lloyd.B.]

Hi, on DRAM calculator it says to put in RTT_PARK RZQ/5(48) - But on my MSI bios it doesn't have that - it wants an ohm number I think. Is the number in brackets the ohm's number that should go in the bios?.. I only just figured that might be the case....

[@HardwareNumb3rs]

Yes, correct, 48 is the value in ohm that you have to set, and it’s very important to enter everything correctly or you won’t boot

[@Lloyd.B.]

@@HardwareNumb3rs Thanks. Can you do some translating from DRAM Calculator terms to MSI?.. DRAM Calculator: VDDG CCD Voltage VDDG IOD Voltage cLDO VDDP Voltage What is in the MSI BIOS is: CPU Core Voltage CPU NB/Soc Volage VDDP Voltage CPU VDDP Voltage DRAM Voltage DRAM VPP Voltage DRAM CH_A VREF Voltage DRAM CH_B VREF Voltage And do I really need to change the FCLK?.. When I looked it just has the option for auto. Says it’s linked but I dunno if I need to unlink it if I’m aiming for 3600MHz or not; I think they are supposed to stay linked if 3600 or under? And I dunno where to unlock it if I do need to. I have Crucial Ballistix Sport LT 16GB (8x2) 3200 CL16 I saw in a different guide to put into DRAM calculator the speed you want - so I put in 3600; because I think a lot of people have got that speed no problems out of these sticks. Is that the wrong way to do it?.. You are right, this process is super boring, and I want to get it done with as little amount of faffing about as possible lol. I put in as much as I could find from the 3600 Fast settings - and no boot. Then someone suggested putting in just the RAM and Soc voltage and the first main lot of settings; it booted and comes up with a latency of 63.5 but tested it with TestMem 5 and got errors.

[@maxzett]

i wouldnt recommend to run the RAM at anything over 1.4V for a longer period of time. Max I'd be comfortable with is 1.38V

[@karim1485]

So happy I found you.. in general, or given your applications, how much does performance improve when manually setting the timings vs xmp? In percent?

[@HardwareNumb3rs]

A good 10+ % just by changing the subtimings, a full and well tuned profile can go up to 15+%

[@karim1485]

@@HardwareNumb3rs Thanks so much, I'll give it a tryand report once I got everything tuned!

[@imaSoldier187]

Is it better to use the report button and import the settings or just R-XMP? I mean cause you can't just fill out those boxes and press calculate safe at least not for me. I have to either press R-XMP to fill in the boxes on the left or I have to import settings first before I can hit calculate.

[@HardwareNumb3rs]

Unknown make sure to use the latest version, you don’t need to import or calculate, just select memory, cpu and board type then press safe or fast

[@St0RM33]

No you need over 10000% to consider it stable. At 7000% coverage with this ram i get a crash like once every 4 days, running the PC 24h. However it is totally random, it can crash maybe 10 minutes after you boot or a week after.

[@HardwareNumb3rs]

St0RM33 I usually test with Ram Test, way faster, take a look at this, after that test I’ve started Ram Test, now at 11420% and counting 😁 imgur.com/a/lfKUmRZ

[@GiuseppeDelfinoGuitar]

@@HardwareNumb3rs why not test ram with memtest on boot ? without windows loaded i think is more accurate

[@fVNzO]

@@GiuseppeDelfinoGuitar You should just try it all and see what works for you. If he's using a tool which works for him, where he doesn't encounter any stability issues, that's great. If you feel like memtest is a better option you should just use that. There's no right answer.

[@mSTRMNDi]

I do have exactly the same ram as you do - 32GB in total of 4 8gb modules. When i OC'd my ram I only had 2 modules installed and it worked fine. Managed to get 3800mhz with fast timings, the same as you applied towards the end of the video. So when I tried to install my other 16gb of ram, my PC wouldnt boot - So I double checked the timings, went on DRam to adjust from 1 to 2 Modules per Slot but the timings were the same. Any idea on that, any tips? BTW I can run 32GB on 3200MHz fine.

[@mSTRMNDi]

DRAM Voltage lowered to 1.4GHz and 1.1 SOC

[@HardwareNumb3rs]

Using 4 modules is harder on the IMC, try to set 4 modules on Dram Calculator and adjust the settings, also some volt in the SOC helps a bit

[@mSTRMNDi]

@@HardwareNumb3rs I managed to get it stable on 1.41V with timings a bit loosened up. Thanks alot for your video and advice!

[@HardwareNumb3rs]

AztecsMyth | FJPS3Lead ask anytime! 👍

[@mSTRMNDi]

@@HardwareNumb3rs another quick question, is 3600mhz cl14 any slower than 3800 cl16?

[@panvrek8952]

So what about that 3733mhz limit of ryzen's memory controller, after which mclk and fclk don't run at 1:1 ratio? Are we ok? Does it run at 1:1 or 1:2? Is it that first setting you change?

[@HardwareNumb3rs]

Pan Vrek originally they stated 3733 but the real limit is 3800/1900, above that you lose the 1:1 and with a latency delay of more than 10ns, so you can set your goal to 3800 1:1, but after 3600 is all about CPU lucky, my 3900X for example won’t go past 3600

[@edward8315]

@@HardwareNumb3rs do you think I should try 3800hz with a Ryzen 3700x? And what kinf of error do you get when you try to go pass 3600hz?

[@HardwareNumb3rs]

Edward you can try by raising little by little, usually when the ram or the infinity fabric is unstable you can have from random crashes to the motherboard that doesn’t even post (and you have to clear cmos)

[@edward8315]

@@HardwareNumb3rs where can I find your Discord IP ? In about 10days my last pc parts will be the there. And incase I need some help...i will for sure join

[@HardwareNumb3rs]

Edward the link is in the video description up here, join and ask anything you want or just hang with us crazy tech fanatics 😁

[@kennyj4366]

Thank you for the great video. Cheers

[@keepcalm1182]

Thanks man, works perfect (have same kit, and b450) only T1 I have not activated yet, but still my latency is as well around 65 Nanoseconds, really nice :)

[@HardwareNumb3rs]

KEEP CALM 65 is great! Good job 👏

[@keepcalm1182]

@@HardwareNumb3rs maybe one question: is there any need that I should check if infinity fabric with my cpu and ram is still 1:1 ? (because I also run now my ram at 3800MHz) or are the ram benchmarks enough to orientate myself (read/latency)? thanks!!

[@HardwareNumb3rs]

KEEP CALM if you open CPUz you will see that in the memory tab NB Frequency and DRAM frequency have the same value, NB frequency is the fclk

[@H4RB1N63R]

@@HardwareNumb3rs I think that NB is north bridge freq.= the mem. controller freq, CPU..., inf. fabric clock = FCLK (fabric between controller, CCX, IOD..) , memory clock (MEMCLK) =2 * UCLK (real clock or rather tick rate).. but i am little confused because someones claim the NB = FCLK, and others exclusively it isnt same!.. i have found many screenshots ( mostly on reddit) where Ryzen master shows UCLK : FCLK in 1:1 ratio, but NB in CPUZ was something different.. claiming that NB is tightened to CPU -Memmory... controller stuff

[@MegaHatsu]

Should i disable xmp when adjusting the timings manually?

[@HardwareNumb3rs]

No, always do a restart with the xmp applied for a better result before manual tuning

[@thizzlerish]

my stock, no XMP -DOCP enabled, out the box latency was 61.1 @ CL14 3600mhz. i think maybe lower your overall mhz and tighten your timings, you will have a much better time.

[@stevin47]

CMK16GX4M2Z3600C14 not showing b-die in dram calulator 1,7.3 ? ryzen 5000

[@sergiovb-9923]

15:34 task scope% is 2000 or 200??

[@Heyselby]

He meant to say 2000%. 200% takes less than an hour usually. 2000% is enough to run it through the night.

[@TRHardware]

Wow, what a nice tutorial! Subscribed as well :)

[@anthonyharding4380]

@Hardware Numb3rs hey buddy, I have a 32Gb kit of this stuff sitting on my shelf waiting to be used in my new system. I am planning to buy a Ryzen 3 5900X on an X570 board (The newer MSI Tomahawk Wifi released in April this year). I was wondering if this memory kit is still worth holding onto for the newer processors? I was hoping to tighten the timings to CL14 at 3200 and leave it there. Am I shooting myself in the foot by not buying a good 4000 kit? Cheers!

[@HardwareNumb3rs]

Can you tell me more about that kit? If you can go higher in frequency it would be better, even at CL16 or C18, the main goal is to max out the flck

[@anthonyharding4380]

@@HardwareNumb3rs thanks for the reply, having done some more research I can see that a higher flck takes priority. The kit I bought a while ago was a Crucial Ballistix Sport LT (4x8Gb) 3200 16-18-18-36 1.35V. Perhaps I can push it to a stable 3600 and CL16 👍

[@bobgreen81]

For checking 2rd and 3rd Memory Timings better use ASROCK TIMING CONFIGURATOR. CPU-Z is very basic.

[@McCarthy880]

I've noticed very high trfc for micron e dies compared to b die. Do you think trfc values around 550 would have huge impact on performance compared to 300-350 trfc from b dies?

[@11BravoMike]

This was a great tutorial by the way. Thank you.

[@deyoviC]

Are the RAM modules with SKU BLS2K8G4D32AESBK and BL2K8G32C16U4B the same as the one you were testing?

[@QuantumLabsTech]

Sei il top nel settore Max 💪🏻

[@crazytech5755]

My trident neo RGB 3600 kit oc'd to 3800 with a hybrid cl 16 and tighter timings. I got 66 solid on the random latency. Not a single issue. At first I couldn't Even get a slight overclock, then I merely put my SOC voltage from 1.1 to 1.15 and BAM it is insanely stable, even at 1900flck. Finally, I got a ryzen chip that can do it lol.

[@TheGoodDoctorSRB]

I am unable ti push fclk above 1600mhz,it wont boot, ram i am able to push uo to 3600mhz. I have 3600x. Any advice?

[@HardwareNumb3rs]

Стефан what motherboard are you using?

[@TheGoodDoctorSRB]

@@HardwareNumb3rs biostar x570 gt8 racing with updated bios. My brother has the same motherboard with ryzen 3600, fclk goes to 1900 no problem.

[@HardwareNumb3rs]

Стефан that’s weird, have you tried to switch the cpu between the two Pc, just to see if the CPU have some issue

[@sylwesterziewiec]

It is silicon lottery....not every CPU will do 1900....most of them should do 1800

[@HardwareNumb3rs]

Sylwester Ziewiec yes correct, above 1800 is luck, but 1800 should be doable for everyone (I tried like 6/7 cpu and all was able to do at least 1800

[@qwerty-fc9ix]

Awesome work

[@walkermehmet]

Hello, I have a question. Please help me. I have `` Crucial Ballistix Sport LT 3200 MHz DDR4 DRAM Desktop Gaming Memory 2x16GB CL16 BLS16G4D32AESB (Gray) '' on my Dektop computer. I want to upgrade 32GB to 64GB. But I couldn't find the same color ram module. I found Crucial Ballistix 16GB 3200MHz DDR4 Ram BLS16G4D32AESE. If I buy 32 gb this module (Crucial Ballistix 16GB 3200MHz DDR4 Ram BLS16G4D32AESE) does it work properly with my existing ram? My system is MSI x470 gaming carbon pro (NOT AC model) Amd Ryzen 7 3700x

[@HardwareNumb3rs]

Mehmet Akin the single module is the exactly the same as the kit, the question is going from 2 to 4 sticks at high density, it will probably need some fine tuning, I think I’m going to try soon (waiting for another kit of 2x16)

[@tsuna111]

cant find this ram anymore is the new ballistix rgb the same as this ??

[@HardwareNumb3rs]

The new ones does even better! 😀

[@tsuna111]

@@HardwareNumb3rs thx planning to get the 3200mhz cl 16 new ballistix rgb and hopefully i can oc it to 3600 cl 16 hopefully

[@HardwareNumb3rs]

@@tsuna111 they will do 3800 C16 easily 👍

[@tomgillotti]

FCLK option no longer available on my motherboard (ASUS Crosshair VI)

[@azurecoast45]

At the beginning when you load default settings in your BIOS, does this reset all settings you have changed eg. fan curves and CPU overclock? If so, is it ok to return CPU to its overclocked settings immediately, provided they are conservative and not extreme? Or should you do memory tuning first, stability test RAM, then return CPU overclock, stability test RAM & CPU? I wonder also what I would have best results with (Crucial Ballistix Gaming 2x8gb 3200/16), 3200mhz @ cl14 or 3600mhz @ cl16.

[@yoyotail5252]

i have b550 , how do i choose on motherboard selection?

[@YTPartyTonight]

Following this guide, I've successfully OC'd my not-so-cheap Trident Z 32GB (2 x 16GB) B-Die 3200 C14. It's now running without errors for over 8 hours/16,300% Coverage in RAM Test at 3800 C16 with fast profile. That's with an R9 3900X CPU OC'd to 4.3Ghz on an X570 Aorus Master MB. i.ibb.co/Z8kbjTX/Mem-Test.jpg

[@malzahar3]

Hey i cannot get passed 3400mhz with my 3700x and Aorurs pro wifi, i have tried cl16 or cl14. Also the lowest random latency i could get is 73.1. Do you know what might be the problem?

[@Absymai]

I have this same memory, but 2x16gb, cant get it even boot with anything over 3200mhz, even with very loose timings. ehh.

[@maxischerr]

Thats why it is a 3200mhz kit. Sometimes they use better Chips, but most of the time you can't push it any further.

[@mxd]

is that memtest accurate..? usually people suggest memtest86, which more accurate?

[@mansooriqbalnagori]

I did manage to oc and it is stable at cl16 3600 but my latency is 72ns. Did i do something wrong?

[@edward8315]

Do you think I can use the same settings with a 32gb Kit? And wich free Programm can you recomend for the Ram stability testing?

[@HardwareNumb3rs]

Edward you can use the dram calculator stress test, it’s free and very reliable, if you have the dual rank version 2x16 there’s the option in the calculator and slightly different timings, I have to do a video about that 32GB kit soon, if you have doubts reach me on my discord server, it’s easier to help you 👍

[@edward8315]

@@HardwareNumb3rs thank you very very much. The funny thing im still waiting for my cpu and psu, the shipping takes very long over the xmas holidays. I just want to inform my self so I can start to build and oc as soon everything is here. What is your discord IP ? I will join as soon I finished my build. Thank you again for your help

[@antoniocampione8831]

Ciao, come faccio a capire se le mie ram sono single o dual rank? Typhoon non lo dice

[@6Twisted]

I’ve been trying to get my Hynix CJR stable at 3800 for days. It errors after a couple of hours in memtest64. I’ve tried raising/loosening almost all the settings so far but it takes so long to debug when it can take up to 5 hours for it to error. My next plan is to try the safe preset or try the timings from 3866.

[@bmorlok1]

Why don't you try 3733MHz @ 1866Fclck

[@6Twisted]

@@bmorlok1 Round number OCD. I did get it stable at 3800-CL16@1.4v (1.1v SOC) with tight primary and secondary timings but I left the tertiary timings on auto as it was one of those causing the instability and had very little effect performance.

[@thizzlerish]

why do you push that one button so muich?

[@muntakimhyerashik7307]

I have r5 3600 and team dark pro ud (3200 cl14 samsung b die) how much can i push it? What do you think?

[@Leemartes]

Its a great video. helped me alot with same it. do you think its possible to degrade rams? seems like same settings arent stable anymore after 1 year of usage.

[@allcaps4141]

I just got a XPG Spectrix D41 RGB TUF 3000MHz (probably with Hynix or Samsung C-die) for about 20 dollars less than the Ballistix one with 3200MHz and no RGB (I don't mind RGB). Should I give it (the XPG one) back to the store and get the Ballistix one? (More info below) The one I currently have is "XPG Spectrix D41 TUF, RGB, 8GB, 3000MHz, DDR4, CL16 - AX4U300038G16-SB41" and I can get a "Crucial Ballistix Gaming 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR4-3200 CL16 BL2K8G32C16U4B" if the difference is that huge. What should I do (I want to OC for more FPS on eSports), keep the XPG or get the Ballistix?

[@MapleJokerRofl]

The latency for my BLS4K16G4D240FSE is Custom Latency 79.2 and Random Latency 117 wtf and i paid like 580 I think 2 years ago for this shit. 4 x 16 gb @ 2400mh. About to burn them OC .. lets see what I get wish me luck

[@lolageez1]

Do you reckon this can go higher than 3800? I've got two 16gb sticks and am hoping to use them for ryzen 4000

[@XX-121]

i have same kit i believe 2x16gb (32gb kit) balistix e-die and typhoon are saying mine are dual rank. also dram calc is giving me 14 14 18 14 etc etc when yours are showing as 16 (which is the xmp of this kit) . do you think 14 is safe? also if you go to command prompt as administrator and run "winsat mem" what are you scoring after overclock? thx!

[@broken1965]

What is your numbers FPS bro before changes or firestrike score

[@fVNzO]

I can confirm that the settings work fine for me although my 3600 can't do 1900 fclk it seems to be 100% stable at 1866, the ram however seemed to be stable at 3800mt/s. In conclusion I've ended up at 3733mt/s on the ram but I've yet to try and tighten the subtimings. Thanks for the guide.

[@bewellegoist]

Thank you so much for such a detailed guide ❤️

[@mengao079]

Do u think I can achieve this with my kit similar to yours, but xmp settings is set to 3000mhz cl15 1.35v + ryzen 5 3600 + ASRock B450M steel legend motherboard?

[@HardwareNumb3rs]

mengao079 yes, you should be able to do it!

[@mengao079]

@@HardwareNumb3rs Thank you, will try to tune my memory settings!!

[@plymix8389]

mengao079 what did you get

[@mengao079]

@@plymix8389 i was able to get 3600 mhz at 1,4v. But im limited by my mobo, if u got a better mobo u should be able to reach 3733 at very good timings. Really good memory for the price

[@plymix8389]

mengao079 that’s pretty good 3600 cl 16?

[@_Ferrigno]

I'd love to get this memory testing tool you have. What is it called?

[@sp00n]

If anyone still cares, the 9 Euro one is Karhu RAM Tester. And it is one of the best ones out there.

[@Bounceoo7]

Would you do a test for dual ranked 4 dimms vs single ranked 2 dimm for the 3300x overclock test to see which set up would be faster? I am thinking of getting the 3300x paired with X570 ASRock Phantom Gaming 4 to upgrade my 10 year old PC and considering going for 4 dimm XPG Gammix D10 3600 CL18 (due to ram prices where I am at) and see if I can achieve your results with the slower ram.

[@HardwareNumb3rs]

I tried all the configurations possible with the Zen2 CPUs and the best is with the fabric maxed out (1866/1900), dual rank vs single or 2/4 sticks doesn’t really matter in performance, but consider that memory IC and single/dual rank or 2/4 sticks may drastically reduce the chance to max out flck and tighten the subtimings, so my advice is to go with a kit that can let you do that easily, or you will need countless hours to tune it, the Ballistix are the easiest to do the job, b-die in dual rank or 4 sticks can be a hard job, I don’t know the IC of that kit you want to purchase but going with 4 sticks may be a bad idea

[@Bounceoo7]

@@HardwareNumb3rs ty for the advice. I'll look around some more for better ram options. Would just go for the ram you used here but it is not available in my region :(

[@uriels2346]

Why cant I type in decimal points? I have a b550 motherboard if that helps

[@bgtubber]

Type decimal points where?

[@cosmebasto8005]

Thank you for the information

[@jackdanksterdawson112]

Just Ordered these for 80$ and i am super stoke for em cant wait to freely play every fucking game smoothly without stutters!! FML

[@RasierapparaT]

very good thank you!

[@11BravoMike]

Bah! I bought a set of Crucial Balistix (Micron B die) and Dram calculator does not have timings for it. Of course... I hate that I am always that guy who accidentally gets the weird product. The kit is XMP 3600 16-18-18-38. I've managed to get it to 3733 1/1fclock @ 14-18-18-38-56 @1.41volts. I'm lost after that.... Very little info out there about Micron B die.

[@HardwareNumb3rs]

Well, isn’t bad at all, the subtimings tho should be almost similar to e die, how is your latency?

[@11BravoMike]

@@HardwareNumb3rs Hey, thanks for responding Boss. I dropped my timings back to xmp 16-18-18-38-56 but, I kept the Frequency @3733, 1866 Fclk. custom latency = 66.5 random latency = 67.3 I know I can get the CL to 14 @1.41volts (stable) but, I'm not really sure what to do with the other timings. I do not know if it is safe to run the cl14 without changing other timings (i.e. 14-18-18-38-56). So for now I will just keep the timings at xmp. I may pull up some E die settings and play around with them tonight. Thank you again for responding. Very cool of you. ;)

[@HardwareNumb3rs]

@@11BravoMike no problem at all, I like to help 🙂don’t bother too much with the primary, you’ll end up needing more volts and risking instability, the real gains are in the secondary even not too tight, go with a safe profile, it’s much better than auto

[@11BravoMike]

@@HardwareNumb3rs OMG the E die timings worked! Thank you Sir! It doesn't offer Fast timings but the Safe ones are working fine @1.42volts. 14-17-18-18-36-58. It already shaved 52-57 seconds off my membench "default" test. 248 down from 305 LOL. That's crazy how much of a difference that makes. Your E die suggestion was perfect. Thank you! 3600xt Asus Tuf Pro x570 Crucial Ballistix 3600 16-18-18-38 2x16GB BL16G36C16U4BL.M8FB132GB

[@bmorlok1]

what is trcpage and why do you set it to 4? This value doesn't appear in ryzen dram calculator from what I could see. Thanks for the information.

[@jeresetala]

Leave it on auto

[@1980gegeta]

is ram test really good? There is another program better? Hci is too long.

[@waelelhassan2523]

does this work for Ryzen 2000

[@HardwareNumb3rs]

This works for all the Ryzens 🙂

[@Yannis_Nik.]

I wonder what my new system with R5 3600x and Ballistix 32GB Kit DDR4 2x16GB 3600 CL16 can do.... Would you make suggestion of what speed should I try for a first time...?

[@HardwareNumb3rs]

You should try with 3800 Safe, and then slowly tighten the timings

[@Yannis_Nik.]

@@HardwareNumb3rs thanks for your time my friend. Take care and be strong 💪.

[@Yannis_Nik.]

@@HardwareNumb3rs There are everywhere these ''lists'' with compatible hardware. This RAM above isn't included. So, what...? Won't these dimms perform well with R5? :-/ (BL2K16G36C16U4RL) I wiil appreciate greatly of your opinion,thanks.

[@HardwareNumb3rs]

Ιωάννης -Yannis- Νικλητσιώτης that is a great kit, I have one here and it works great everywhere, I tested it with many AM4 boards without any issue, even on Intel is doing a good job

[@Yannis_Nik.]

@@HardwareNumb3rs I am so happy I made a good choice then! Thanks!

[@user-hw6qp1ct2e]

Thank you for this information.

[@FlanK3rCZ]

and also those RAM kits are fun for overlcockers for records like 5000+ MHz on AIR or close to 6000 MHz on LN2 :) I have similar video (but not edited now) with DRAm Ryzen Calc on Pinnacle RIdge :-D

[@HardwareNumb3rs]

FlanK3rCZ Next week I’ll recharge the dewar, I have a Ballistix Elite to try the max frequency 😉 once you finish you video link it, keen to see it 👍

[@VaskoG384]

My 3200cl16 ballistix sport LT can run at 4000cl14 :) needs vtt tho

[@anthonyharding4380]

Hiya, I just stumbled across this video and I’m loving it. Thank you so much for your efforts! I’m new to this and I do have a couple of questions I wish to ask: If I get 4x8gb will I need to change the timings from your 2x8gb in this video? Also are you still intending to make a video for the alternative 2x16gb 3000 cl15 kit? (I want to go with the most reliable kit for reaching 3800 cl16 😊🙏) Cheers! PS - I’m intending to buy a Gigabyte Aorus Master x570 and a Ryzen 3700X.

[@HardwareNumb3rs]

Anthony Harding hey! I want to make a video for the 2x16GB soon, mainly to compare performance, the overclocking procedure is the exact same, follow the dram calculator and set the bios. If you want to go for 32GB buy the 2x16GB, it’s way easier for the IMC to handle 2 sticks instead of 4, probably with 4 you won’t go past 3600 (but I’ll try to check also this in the video I’m going to do!)

[@markobros231]

Ciao ho le tue stesse RAM e grazie alla tua guida sto per la prima volta facendo oc a qualcosa 😂 ..ho anche lo stesso processore 3800x su una x570 aorus elite..ho notato che questa CPU sale spesso a 1.50v quando boosta sino ai 4.4 o 4.5 ghz, per caso lo fa pure a te? Ho impostato pure il risparmio energetico amd su bilanciato ma boosta comunque così tanto..ho paura che in gioco, col tempo si danneggi a voltaggi così elevati..che ne pensi? Ti ringrazio

[@HardwareNumb3rs]

MarkoBros Ciao! Non preoccuparti, è studiato perché il voltaggio salga e scenda in autonomia, i picchi che vedi sono di frazioni di secondo, se lo lasci a default e tiri bene le ram avrai ottime performance e ti può durare decenni 😁

[@crazytech5755]

You can legit just copy all the settings he did, and it should work 100%. If anything one might take just a little more voltage, maybe less.

[@chaoswar3239]

Just can't get my 32gb with 3200 stock over 3600 because the Fclk won't boot over 1800. But very nice Video! Sad because I thought with 4.45ghz on all Cores oc I have won the 3000 Ryzen Silicon lottery but this memory controller chip seems not to be the best one...

[@nequrix]

I get my kit ballistix 3000 cl15 on msi 450b gaming max with r5 3600 on 3733 16 20 16 36 58. Also with ryzen better is go up to 3733 MHz with lower timings synchro fclk then asynchro what will be losing performance(more then 3733 MHz is asynchro). Also testing in dram calc on easy 15%not always give us confidence stable my ram pass IT on 16 19 16...but in games makes restart. Anyway rly good tutorial cheers from Poland ;)

[@HardwareNumb3rs]

nequrix with the 3600 you can push a bit more if your cpu is lucky (usually the 6 and 8 core are), the flck/ram go 1:1 up to 1900/3800, the 12 and 16 core I saw that not all samples can go past 1866/3733, for the test I usually wait 10.000% or above, and I use the Karhu tool, it cost 9€ but is totally worth it 😁

[@barbas20]

What is your motherboard? I have x570 asus p and your ram and i can't get above 3000mhz .....

[@HardwareNumb3rs]

I can run the Ballistix 3200 at up to 3800mhz on every B450/X470/X570/Z370/Z390/Z490 I have, probably there’s something you are missing, come on my discord server if you need help

[@muSPKwow]

Is there any program like this for Intel system as well?

[@HardwareNumb3rs]

muSPK I don’t know any 😕

[@muSPKwow]

@@HardwareNumb3rs RIP me

[@HardwareNumb3rs]

muSPK so I need to make one for Intel, but it would be long for real 😁

[@muSPKwow]

@@HardwareNumb3rs Yes that would be the best if you did, you always make great videos!

[@prashantshukla3652]

what are the safe temperature limits for RAM?

[@sp00n]

It depends on the kit. The RAM itself is specced for around 85°C, but depending on the kit and the amount of overclocking you do, the temperature limit might be much lower for stable operation. Samsung B-Die for example likes to stay below 45°C when using tight timings, above that it will begin to become unstable and produce errors. Other kits are not that temperature sensitive, I think the Micron ones used here don't really care that much.

[@vedranmacarol6216]

Hi, I was wondering if you could recommend a corsair or a g.skill trident Z kit that would be decent for Ryzen overclocking. I could just buy this kit but i really don't like the way it looks. Thanks for a great video

[@HardwareNumb3rs]

Vedran Macarol have you seen the Tactical Tracer? Is a RGB version of this, or in alternative don’t go with Corsair, better Gskill, but you have to choose carefully the model, most doesn’t have this OC potential

[@vedranmacarol6216]

@@HardwareNumb3rs thanks for the fast reply, im not a big fan of rgb so i will probably just save the money and go for the one you recommended in the video specific trident z kit i was looking at was 3600 cl15 but its more then double the price

[@RasierapparaT]

I have the exact same kit, unfortunately DDR4-3800 doesn't even boot up for me ... I'm on a ROG STRIX B550 Gaming F. Guess I will have to put more voltage or use different timings. will stay in safe-OC for now ;) cheers mate

[@CarloLeonKolega]

Thanks for the tips!

[@syrynx4454]

Micron E-die are very bad at tightening trfc, on samsung b-die it goes way lower , like 2x lower, on my samsung b-die my trfc is 288 .

[@HardwareNumb3rs]

Syrynx yes, aren’t great for trfc, I have b-die that can go even 180 or 160 with extreme voltage, but Micron have a very nice factory internal timings and the difference aren’t so big, especially if you compare the prices and the diminishing return

[@syrynx4454]

@@HardwareNumb3rs The difference is minor i know, still i didn't even know b-die could go under 240 for trfc.By extreme voltage i'm guessing 1.8-2v ,which is absurd.Running mine at 3800 cl15 at 1.42v on my 3700x.