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@evocatiproductions4 жыл бұрын
FYI. Thermal Shutdown happens at exactly 115c. Don't ask me how I know...
@jimbodee40434 жыл бұрын
Ouch which poor CPU felt that.
@Maevar4 жыл бұрын
How do you know? j.k.
@syth-14 жыл бұрын
You, you're a maniac
@shawnpitman8764 жыл бұрын
@@syth-1 what if he did it on like a ryzen 3 1200 that they sent him as a bios conversion kit? :O then he's just a mad lad genius.
@AxeMan04x3 жыл бұрын
I bet the last thing in your KZbin watch history before that happened was one of those Minecraft Ultra Graphics videos.
@brandonbajc20844 жыл бұрын
Thanks for this! I have this exact mother board and am trying to learn about overclocking, so this video really helps by simplify things for me! Super cool!!👍👍
@bighairycomputers4 жыл бұрын
I WAS TODAY YEARS OLD WHEN I LEARNED THAT MY MOTHERBOARD ACTUALLY DOES HAVE XMP OPTIONS IT'S JUST CALLED DOCP.
@paulvancyber19794 жыл бұрын
lol
@christopherjames98434 жыл бұрын
DOCP is just AMD's version of XMP which is an Intel standard.
@plusixty89924 жыл бұрын
@@christopherjames9843 its actually just ASUS no other company uses "docp"
@christopherjames98434 жыл бұрын
@@plusixty8992 I think Gigabyte used something called "EOCP" at one point.
@GrockleTD4 жыл бұрын
relatable AF
@mikeoleksa4 жыл бұрын
Great stuff, as always, Buildzoid! I had already translated this over from your video with the 3950X and Gigabyte X570 Aorus Extreme. I have a 3700X and Asus X570 Crosshair VIII Hero and it did squeeze a little bit more out of it. For memory I have a 16 Gb 4000MHz Teamgroup kit that I've clocked down to 3600MHz as well. Thaiphoon Burner says that it's Samsung B-die, so I went ahead and tightened up the timings using the Ryzen D-RAM calculator "fast" settings. It's been running this way since whenever the other video was published without any hiccups whatsoever. I'll have to run the benchmarks again to see what my scrores are again. The one score I kind of remember is CB R20 being just over 5,000. It's probably worth mentioning that my CPU is liquid cooled by a custom loop.
@timgraves26544 жыл бұрын
Really enjoying these types of videos
@jjbr774 жыл бұрын
got a 5% increase on cinebench after this with my 3700x on asus tuf x570. thanks, dude
@jjbr774 жыл бұрын
@SmashStomp Inc just sitting here watching my CPU Cort voltage, it's bouncing around .8 - 1.3 with a few background apps running
@jjbr774 жыл бұрын
@SmashStomp Inc are you on x570 with latest bios and chipset drivers?
@jjbr774 жыл бұрын
@SmashStomp Inc but have you also updated the bios of the motherboard? That is important as well
@Phamine4 жыл бұрын
How much more heat was generated?
@jjbr774 жыл бұрын
@@Phamine I did not see any noticeable change in thermals, but I'm also running a noctua cooler, not the stock cooler.
@cebrailaktas64274 жыл бұрын
I was waiting for this but I tinkered on my own .. Now I realise I did the exact same things, thanks Buildzoid, all those hours of OC tutorial totally paid !
@GUNCHEECHEE3 жыл бұрын
im getting into overclocking more, really helped you explaining what these mean
@donjude95854 жыл бұрын
An other 4am packin the knowledge in... Thank you buddy!
@agentoranj58584 жыл бұрын
Yiss been waiting for this.
@catch22frubert4 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the easy guide. Worked ok for me on a x570 tuf gaming WiFi and a 3800x, 16 gigs trident z neo @ 3600mhz and a Rtx 2070 super. Went from 4790 to 4910 on cinebench. Not huge, but better than nothing.
@Brennahan4 жыл бұрын
Couldn't have come at a more perfect time. Literally just built my new computer with an Asus mobo yesterday lol
@Viewer194 жыл бұрын
Then be sure to use PBO with ASUS Level 3 setting which will boost single core perf and givela good multi with little or no core volt boost also (-50mv offset) regardless of his statements either he damaged his CPU or got a bad one Every other review (ASUS) gets good results
@johnconnor25724 жыл бұрын
I was actually planning out a build on pcpartpicker last night with this same mobo so this was perfect for me too
@LeeMc0074 жыл бұрын
Ditto , built my new PC with 3700x and Asus Tuf gaming Wifi just last week. :)
@radicalxedward80474 жыл бұрын
Brennahan I’m in the same boat too. Just built my first gaming pc in like a decade a couple weeks ago. R5 3600 / ASUS x570-e mobo / sapphire nitro 5700 xt I was literally on the brink of returning my gpu because of the black screen driver issue, even requested a return, and then AMD dropped a driver update Saturday (needed to send card in Sunday at the latest) and so far it seems fixed but I really hope it 100% is cause I can’t return it now and warranty’s don’t typically cover driver issues.
@johnconnor25724 жыл бұрын
@@radicalxedward8047 Good choices overall. In my build I'm using a red dragon 5700 and flashing bios to xt. The sapphire is even better tho because of the dual bios and comparable thermos
@SovietGrazz4 жыл бұрын
"The easy way" .... 40 minutes later ...
@jeffm27874 жыл бұрын
Actually he provided what to set quickly. At that point you could have just stopped watching the video and had good results.
@tjcmoto54844 жыл бұрын
@@HenryThe12 So you haven't seen Gamers Nexus 8 hour overclocking streams?
@DanHot4 жыл бұрын
Ez way to waste time
@hernandoschoolsrepository74374 жыл бұрын
A script would have made this video far more efficient.
@kawafahra4 жыл бұрын
So you have not yet heard about Memtest´s Nightcycles, i guess
@IronArmPanda4 жыл бұрын
Asus Crosshair VI owner here. I've used the +200 offset for the past couple of weeks along with power limit increases on my 3600. It shows boost to 4.35ghz, which it goes to quite often even on fairly heavy cinema4d rendering workloads. Performance is quite a bit better gaming, but i'm pretty unsure of the results since there was the clockspeed bug not too long ago. Will have to do more testing at stock.
@nhozdien50584 жыл бұрын
BehindEnemyFences do you mean the clock speed +200mhz or vcore offset +200mV. The additional 200mhz does work for me on c7h but on only singlecore stuffs.
@IronArmPanda4 жыл бұрын
@@nhozdien5058 A +200mV offset from stock would absolutely decimate a poor 7nm cpu lol. Just the +200mhz in the pbo/ power limit section. I'm also water cooled so it's running under 50c at all times, thermals are a game changer for staying on boost with Ryzen.
@soulshinobi3 жыл бұрын
Max CPU Boost Clock Override did work for me on my Asus Prime B350-Plus with 2600X, I found 125MHz to be the sweet spot. Pretty minor change as you might expect. I guess I'll try the Scalar now, I had heard that's the one that does nothing. I'm not touching those power limits with this board's VRM though. UPDATE: After 30 runs I found the Scaler more beneficial than the Boost Clock Override, and the benefits don't stack (no benefit from changing both for me). Best performance I got was Boost Clock on Auto and Scaler on 8x. Only tests I ran were a CS:GO benchmark and Cinebench R20, the only time I ever got CS:GO to score above 250fps was with the scaler on 7x and 8x.
@piotricz4 жыл бұрын
Max boost clock overrride absolutely works -- on a 3600, and on that only -- because the boost algorithm is artificially capped there at 4200. Giving it +200 effectively makes it into a 3600X, and you see 4400 in single core boost.
@MegaDominik14 жыл бұрын
depends on the cpu, tried out this setting already months ago, yes, ryzen master shows 4.4 ghz "possible clockspeed but in reality the cpu never boosts to it. allcore boost didnt increase as well
@alexanderbeiler8184 жыл бұрын
@@MegaDominik1 same here on my 3600😕
@parabelluminvicta83804 жыл бұрын
my r5 3600x sometimes boost to 4.5ghz with asus crosshair viii hero
@killer326204 жыл бұрын
@@parabelluminvicta8380 I used to see around 4.45 or 4.475 at launch with my 3600x on my msi x470 gaming plus mb
@jobbus224 жыл бұрын
Yeah. My R5 3600 with PBO and auto oc +200 gives me 4,400GHz single core boost. Asus C6H mobo. And allcore boost depends on the load, on cine r20 it gives 4,100-4,050GHz
@casjarleo4 жыл бұрын
Hello BZ, I really enjoy the way you put your videos, actually for this one I kinda miss the white board with the numbers.
@bobbygeiser84784 жыл бұрын
Is there any tells tweaks that will improve single threaded/ gaming performance? Or is it only memory tweaking and cooling for that?
@vivikta4 жыл бұрын
If you want to try out the numbers for PPT/TDC/EDC on a Gigabyte motherboard, make sure you tweak 'Package Power Limit Control' on [Peripherals]-[AMD CBS]. Set it [AUTO] to [Manual] and put the number (300) as BZ suggests.
@mcayea4 жыл бұрын
I have the ASUS B450 ITX mother board with a 3700x and 3600 ram, and this did actually work, i had DOCP and PBO enabled and set to auto before. IT gave me a boost of almost 400 score better in 3dmark.
@BarJosX4 жыл бұрын
Any Msi board.... since the bios is almost the same on all of them + some tips for voltage. Please and thank you
@Antonis243 жыл бұрын
On my MSI X570 Tomahawk I found these settings under "Overclocking/Advanced CPU Configuration". After I changed Precision Boost Overdrive to "Advanced", they appeared underneath it.
@AlexKiraly3 жыл бұрын
It looks like the Overdrive Scalar thing works for me. I've set it to 2x and power consumption while prime95 128k was about 120-123W. Set it to 3x and it spiked to 137W. 3700x, Asus Prime X570 "Pro". Bios version is 2606
@maker79012 жыл бұрын
the pbo scalar does work if you put it to 10x and put 200mhz on the boost override and set the edc to 1 to 10 it will allow the cpu to boost alot. depending if it can hit the extra 200mhz if anything it would hit about 125mhz extra boost or 150mhz.
@dennisgraversen58064 жыл бұрын
Been testing my 3950X on X570 master, i get about the same performance with undervolting as this but it runs ~15-20c cooler. My system now max out at 68c and fans dont spin up ( prime 95 small FFT) my settings is mem 3800 IF=1900 PBO = OFF ( in both menus ) Undervolt -0.10000V ( higher UV needs LLC high/turbo) LLC = auto CB20 ~9550 Cpu-Z SC 550 MC ~11200
@Dude_Virus4 жыл бұрын
Hi Dennis, can you share what settings need to be done in the bios for the undervolting ? I am new to this. I did the precision boost and tried running cinebench and my system shutdown cause processor reached 107 degrees. And that is with a corsair 280 mm AIO push pull. Not sure what is wrong either the cooler or the thermal paste.
@TheGameBench4 жыл бұрын
Okay, so... I've seen a lot of people talking about running PBO and shaving .100mV off the vcore and making pretty decent gains off the 3950X while getting rid of the voltage seesaw and better temps. Curious to know what your thoughts on this are?
@ActuallyHardcoreOverclocking4 жыл бұрын
the issue is if you drop the voltage too much you'll get BSODs so if you want to mess with negative offsets you basically NEED to stress test.
@TheGameBench4 жыл бұрын
@@ActuallyHardcoreOverclocking Yep, I figured stress testing would be necessary. I was just curious about the claim that lowering the voltage is getting people more performance. I get the logic with Zen's boosting behavior, it's just still counter intuitive. I'm going to try a negative .05v and see what happens. Going to be doing what you showed in the video as well.
@VeganProdigy4 жыл бұрын
I got 4865 scrore on Cinebench r20 when Overclocked as you did, stock score was 4558 So almost 300+ points
@Tallnerdyguy4 жыл бұрын
My 3950x averages around 4100 on c20
@GraphicallyChallenged4 жыл бұрын
@@Tallnerdyguy Then your doing something seriously wrong.
@Tallnerdyguy4 жыл бұрын
@@GraphicallyChallenged ya, i was looking at my r15 score lol
@TeeJayka4 жыл бұрын
With 3700X with PBO, Noctua NH-D15 and a little overclocked 3200/CL16 memory to 3733/CL16 + better subtimings + FCLK 1866, I'm at 4990 best score in R20. Can't break the magical 5k though.
@TeeJayka4 жыл бұрын
@@MaxiimTribe I can keep 1.4V 4.3 GHz and get over 5200 in R20 but I rather keep single the core performance as well :)
@mizz14144 жыл бұрын
loads DOCP on 2400G Motherboard instantly dies... thank you Asus...
@Simon744 жыл бұрын
Almost all PBO settings are present 3 times in the Asus BIOS. In Ai Tweaker, CBS and AMD OC. Has anyone found out what menu works best or are they all the same? They do not overwrite each other which is super wierd.
@petrkinkal15094 жыл бұрын
This.
@shawnpitman8764 жыл бұрын
That's an interesting one I was unaware of. Do share the information if you find out, I'm curious to know this myself now.
@jovankadoo4 жыл бұрын
+1
@AceStrife4 жыл бұрын
ASUS needs to fix their BIOS. Which is ironic considering they had the best BIOS's in the past.
@dianpan49224 жыл бұрын
I just type in all the same settings at all these places. Seriously this is really stupid.
@brianfitz16044 жыл бұрын
Thanks Buildzoid! How long till ASROCK? Are you going to use the x470 Taichi or an x570 board?
@ConeJellos4 жыл бұрын
17:01 the 65w TDP comes from the CPU core power limit being 65w. When you add the SoC wattage on top of that it'll bring it up to 80ish. My 3700x pegs exactly at 65w on the core power consumption at stock PBO settings. Still doesn't make sense to call it a 65w TDP CPU though.
@TheDaswilhelm4 жыл бұрын
Motherboard tray is in fact, a motherboard. Love it!
@orellaminx35303 жыл бұрын
8:29 Default sets to 395/160/190 for 3700X for reference
@TheSailorKing4 жыл бұрын
@Buildzoid and @everyone ASUS doesn't use XMP for AMD mobos ram because is an Intel copyrighted term and could sue them that is why they use the generic term for the same thing
@crisnmaryfam73443 жыл бұрын
basically. Its kind of like that diesel truck part company that wanted to trademark a color of blue....
@reinaweis3 жыл бұрын
An updated version of this for 5000 cpu's would be nice :)
@KurosawaIsamu4 жыл бұрын
With the widely different performance results and apparent changes in how this system works i've taken to just locking my 3900x to 4.2 all core. I did have it reaching 4300 all core on PBO with a non all core boosting to 4.5 at one point which completely disappeared after a reboot, now PBO will not go above 4.0 regardless of settings.
@aaronhall37074 жыл бұрын
Thanks!
@TomFoolery90013 жыл бұрын
Are there any videos for the next level of overclocking, maybe an intermediate level one? I've got the BFG notura and would like to know what else I could tweak to get a little more out of my CPU.
@Tempest123224 жыл бұрын
housemates had a few thermal shutdowns with static overclocks (doesn't bother testing temps properly) it seems to be over 100c when it does, and it comes up with thermal shutdown triggered in the bios
@eleeter4 жыл бұрын
This worked perfectly for me, Asus TUF Gaming X570 3700X @4.2 3600 memory got 5011 in Cinebench was getting around 4860 before. Deepcool Castle 240 I set the fan profile to be as quiet as possible 75C at full load.
@Helium_Hunter4 жыл бұрын
Hi, useful video. I have a 3900x is there any way to increase the max single core boost frequency above 4.6ghz?
@dustingomez75904 жыл бұрын
Plan on doing one of these for MSI Motherboards?
@kevincosta19774 жыл бұрын
Two weeks ago I spent a few hours messing with PBO and found that PPT 300, TCD 250, EDC 0 and Custom Scalar 4X works best for a Prime X370-PRO with 3700X and 5406 beta BIOS, I get around 5030cb in multicore and 513cb in single in Cinebench R20.
@406mill4 жыл бұрын
Where did you find the 5604 BIOS? Latest on the website is 5220, been checking it now and again waiting for an agesa 1.0.0.4 but been no updates since sept 19'.
@3dPropheta4 жыл бұрын
@@406mill Its 5406 test bios, you can download it at hardwareluxx forums.
@kevincosta19774 жыл бұрын
Sorry, it's 5406, not 5604, just fixed the post. Search for "PRIME X370-PRO ComboPI_1004PatchB" and you'll probably land in Hardwareluxx forums or leddit page with the link. Note that spread spectrum is broken for Zen 1 and Zen+ in this beta if you plan to BIOS mod it.
@PS2Nerd4 жыл бұрын
Hey BZ! Got any tips on RAM Stability. I'm using an Aorus Z390 Master using 2x8 4133mhz patriot viper but I've got another 2x8 kit coming. I was thinking of trying to tighten my timings to 3200mhz CL11 or something
@SkywardKkalox4 жыл бұрын
Great and informative video! What about using these on an asrock b450 mobo?
@Mopantsu4 жыл бұрын
EDC 1 (bug exploit) on latest BIOS is better for a good cooler. 5121 in CBR20 first batch 3700X. Normally get the same as you at stock of 4770. MSI B450M Mortar V1. Boosts to 4.425 Ghz on two cores. 4.4 Ghz on the others. Temps and voltages are fine.
@Mach1414 жыл бұрын
Would like to see similar content with a 2700X / ASUS X570 board. I cant be the only one running this combo considering Microcenter was practically giving away 2700X's not long ago.
@blueovalfan234 жыл бұрын
Same here, I drove 2hrs each way to get that deal. I could have order the parts and spent about the if you count the gas but it was bouncing around in the back of my car rather than a ups/FedEx truck and I got it that day. I got the Asus tuf wifi x570 and 2700x. Memory and a few other things I was was up to 400ish. Not bad for the cpu I ended up with. How about you?
@tim5564 жыл бұрын
I was hoping that you would go into the DIGI+ VRM settings on the asus
@xDaveN4 жыл бұрын
quick question, should I use the additional 4pin cpu cable if i do this? right now im running this tweaked setup on only the 8pin. cheers!
@Tomasu824 жыл бұрын
When I built my new workstation, I initially planned on getting a 3900x or 3950x, but was un able to get one in time so got a 3700x.. which means I'm running a 3700x in a Gigabyte X570 Aorus Pro Wifi with a h150i pro cooler. lol. Cpu temps get perhaps to 65-70c after tweaking the pbo somewhat. system is pretty darn quiet and I love it. :D eventually I'll probably grab a 3950x or maybe a ryzen 4000 assuming it'll work with this board.
@s16non3 жыл бұрын
Hey buildzoid, I remember watching a video like this but for gigabyte boards, am I dreaming or is there one?
@HoveKB4 жыл бұрын
X570 Crosshair Hero VIII Wifi + 3950x over here, definitely trying this when I get home!
@omarkhayyat28564 жыл бұрын
How did it go?
@HoveKB4 жыл бұрын
Bleach • slight bump in performance as expected. Temps remained the same, so pretty much free performance lol
@cercvideosvarios4 жыл бұрын
@@HoveKB Mee too, crosshair VIII hero + 3950x, i will do some test too
@paulhenricksen57284 жыл бұрын
@@cercvideosvarios I have the same setup. Saw a slight boost . What are your idle temps? I'm sitting at 50c with a 360mm AIO.
@cercvideosvarios4 жыл бұрын
@@paulhenricksen5728 Hi, maybe i do not understand if this setting on bios need to have the core ratio in "auto", anyway always since i have this setup i put core ratio in 42.0 and i have better performance (on cinebench) than if i put core ratio in "auto" whith these buildzoid setting, mi idle temps are 35-40ªC (Vcore manual 1.22), and i haver air cooler (Deepcool Gammaxx 400 push/pull 120 mm fans) however I will continue testing and I comment
@sounddifferent37524 жыл бұрын
For my 3900x i set XMP profile to 3000Mhz and FCLK Frequency to 1500Mhz. Results for R20 is: 7042 before, and 7103 after.
@iraklistselegidis59434 жыл бұрын
Hey buildzoid, i have a question regarding overclocking. Now, i have a problem with my setup. I utilize a heavy overkill Open loop (x1 240mm, x1 280mm*45mm wide, x1 360mm radiator) together with an Asus crosshair 7 ( another overkill, yes i know). Now while i know how good the temps are and i know the voltage supply from the motherboard is not going to be a problem i am trying to literally break the wall limit with this CPU (AMD R5 2600) and i am canibalizing it for real. I spend yesterday (3/2/2020), more than 4 Hours trying to find the fine line of maximum clocks and reliability. Sadly while the temps are way too cool * max 74C at 155W and 100Amps current i cant get a stable 4.3+++ GHz all Core with static voltage OC 1.47++V. I run Cinebench R15 and i also see sometimes with some luck a completed rendering but without any extra Rating point at 4.35GHz compared to 4.3 for example. The maximum achieved possible rating was 1481 all core Cinebench R15. I did run prime95 but seems that cores are going off after 5 minutes and seems more unstable in comparison with Cinebench.. It seems like the thermals are not the problem here, the CPU could go 80C+ at 4.4 GHz but physical (inner Resistance, Transistor amount, i dont even know what to think) seems like impossible! I am trying to counter it with more voltage but it ain happen! I the maximum voltage i tryied was up to 1.49V. I do run my mem Setting 3400Mhz 14-14-14-28. * Gskill Trident Z 2x8GB - I dont know if they are Samsung/Micron dies or whatever.. Now, the reason why i push that much.. well, i invested heavily in a cooling solution (long term usage will pay back) but also on my graphics card. I own a beast 2080ti which works also with the water loop. But playing some games (actual example AC origins in 4K) the processor bottlenecks so hard on some places that i see an average GPU Core Usage value of 73%ish and i cant even exceed the 40 frames per second! That sucks!!! I tryied to change that with even more OC but it ain getting there. I regret not buying the 8700K afterall.. and investing every year in AM4 Platform to reach sometime the Intel capabilities in single core or even all core is also meh, since i will reach the 8700K costs and still being slower. Any suggestions what can i do? With regards, a filthy casual
@Dude_Virus4 жыл бұрын
So which real life workload will benefit from this ? Or is this just for the benchmark? What about running VMs ?
@telnx3 жыл бұрын
hmm i don't know if im that much of a noob, but a few months ago i bought a gigabyte x570 Gaming X with a Ryzen 3600x and Corsair Vengeance Pro rgb 2x8gb 3600x, loaded the xmp as the ram was clocked to 2133 mhz, reboot and the bios would crash and restart 3 times when reset back to default :-( after days of playing with the setting i got the ram upto 3400mhz that was stable, played with the timings to get the read/write speeds as high as possible and just accepted it. After watching the breakdown of the motherboard you done a year back, you was talking about the Daisy Chain design, so i looked at the slots i had put the ram in 1&3, so i just moved them to 2&4 :-( XMP now runs @3800mhz stable at 1.38v with a fast timing setup :p i did have it running at 3866mhz but i didn't want to push my luck just yet :D
@thelasthallow4 жыл бұрын
man i keep thinking about picking up a 3700X but i know that we are getting close to AMD announcing something about their 4000 Series, and if rumors are true another 10% in IPC will be worth the wait (im running a OC 6600K and am ready for an upgrade)
@DJRPka4 жыл бұрын
I have an Asus crosshair formula x570 and 3950x, 3600 cl 16 ram, following this guide I lost about 40 from cinebench r 15 and 20. I will look to see if I have anything else configured, but I am pretty sure all I had configured before was xmp ****edit***** after looking in the comments, someone mentioned to add an offset of -0.0125 which helped a bit. After about an hour of testing, I found a vcore voltage offset of -0.09375 worked best for me. all in all after tweaking, I think I gained about a 6% increase.
@NicolasGarel12014 жыл бұрын
Hi Bz : Gigabyte 1st, now Asus... Any chance you make a similar video with MSI mobo ? Thanks for running this channel by the way. I Just discovered it, and I love it !
@hitznkoff42854 жыл бұрын
spent a few months messing around wit hover clocking my 2700x and after five minutes of having PBO enabled I could tell the difference. A little lower cinebench number but everything else was way better and cooler. My highest with the 2700X is 4174 with PBO its 3953, but that took 1.5 volts...and when I am gaming my cpu stays a lot cooler while delivering better 4K framerate. Noctua NH-u14s with one 140mm fan. 2080 Black, GSkill Royals 3200 cas 14.
@VentureNW4 жыл бұрын
Thanks BZ... only just came across this from the GN side. Quick question... can I safely use 3600Mhz on my 3200 kit Samsung B-die kit? Was in there playing around with it awhile back and after I flashed the Tuf X570 to 1407, my RAM is back set to 2133, so I need to fix that and was wondering. Thanks
@2Drezik4 жыл бұрын
nice vid, thanks. guys, whats your choice for new setup ? Asus TUF x570 plus gaming VS gigabyte x570 aorus elite vs gigabyte x570 aorus PRO
@Symba_Lysm4 жыл бұрын
SO i was thinking of buying a 3900X on an ASUS TUF X570 motherboard and then manually overclocking it to 4.3ghz with 1.35 on the Vcore, and making the other necessary changes with that. I have read many articles and spoke to many people who have said these settings work perfectly fine and grant a stable all core experience. But considering i have seen this and heard a fair bit about PBO being alright, would it make more sense to do this instead of a manual overclock, or in combination with it? BTW i'm going to be using a 3600Mhz Cl16 kit of ram, and i don't think i'm going to push it any further.
@classicallpvault82514 жыл бұрын
5:14 That memory... my 160 bucks 2x 16GB 3200 rated Ripjaws V kit does 3600 18-20-20-40 and passed around 12 hours of stress testing in Prime95.... guess I must have been lucky!
@Samopal.VanoZz Жыл бұрын
Is a prime 95 a decent test for ram or you need to run something like specific ram tests?
@chuckwolf98694 жыл бұрын
Tried this with my 3800X on a TUF X570 Gaming. And a 280 MM AiO. There was no difference in perfornance over Auto. However with a wattmeter (built into APC) there was no wattage draw difference between the manual settings and auto, hitting between 260 and 280 watts system power while running CB R20. Could just be my CPU/MB combo isn't being power limited as much on Auto.
@overreactengine4 жыл бұрын
Went from ~8800 to ~9200 cinebench on 3950x, good stuff
@zloycock4 жыл бұрын
Well now I can see max single core frequency around 4350 mhz on my R5 3600, but still get 0 performance increase in full load. Manual 4.2 of all cores 1.35V do job better.
@tresor1394 жыл бұрын
Does custom windows power plan like AMD, 1usmus or neon-dev make any difference to system performance or temperatures?
@joeyvdm14 жыл бұрын
Use the Ryzen Balanced Power Plan. It's configured to let 3000 gen Ryzen to respond in 1ms I believe. The plan will set your CPU minimum processor state to 99% and max to 100%. That's what is recommend by AMD, and by 1usmus himself after a windows update a while ago. If you use windows balanced power plan your temps might lower at idle but your CPU will only be able to respond every 15ms and not 1ms. So for best performance use Ryzen Balanced Power profile. My temps are fine with it too. EDIT: I'm using a 3700x and I also use a custom fan profile in my ASUS X570 Gaming-F bios and AMD wraith prism cooler. My country gets very very hot.
@trentenr72553 жыл бұрын
Cpu boost override helps with single core workload. I’ve gotten an extra 150mhz single core from only that setting. If your cpu has the silicon to go above it’s rated boost then the “override” takes effect
@trentenr72553 жыл бұрын
It doesn’t however auto boost. Just gives it more headroom
@7Gia_2 жыл бұрын
Great vid. Question: I recently installed 3600MHz C14 RAM. When i run a userbenchmark test, my ram is performing "below expectations". Is that a reliable test? CPU-Z, Ryzen Master and BIOS DOCP all say its 3600MHz with the correct cas latency timings 14-14-14-34 @ 1.45V.... R7 3700x (pre-built computer btw)
@udam_u35124 жыл бұрын
@Actually Hardcore Overclocking I have R9 3950X on Asus Prime X370 - Pro motherboard (cooler Noctua NH-U12A). I used to use PBO with manual setting enabled (unfortunately I did it before you published your guide and I set scalar to 10x, max boost to 200MHz and I left rest of the settings to auto - I know options I changed are meaningless according to your guide but they unlocked power limits as well) and I observed that CPU is able to keep much higher frequency than stock (3.8-4.0GHz vs 3.2GHz) when runing Prime 95 with custom settings 128k-128k. During mentioned Prime test with PBO enabled CPU was producing more than 220W of heat (according to HwINFO64). CPU on stock produces ~140W. After few minutes computer turned off (temperature on CPU was below 80C). Now I wonder what caused this unexpected shut down - VRM overheating? Is my mobo capable of handling R9 3950X with PBO enabled? Do you think there is any sense to check system stability with Prime 95 AVX2 enabled and small sample set (128-128k produces enormous amount of heat...)? I would be gratefull for your response.
@Dennzer14 жыл бұрын
Hi
@Dynasty18184 жыл бұрын
Upgraded to a 3700x on a Hero 7 mobo so yeah, tinkering tonight it seems.
@JCFranco4 жыл бұрын
I just upgraded to a X570 Hero too. I will be doing the same.
@benderrodriguez63434 жыл бұрын
@@JCFranco I'm very curious how you do I nearly did a CH7 with my 3900x
@seanrobertson38334 жыл бұрын
@@benderrodriguez6343 I did a 3900x on a CH7 before upgrading to a CH8. For the first few weeks until a new bios I noticed higher performance on Cinebench and better temps with the X470.
@Danko_HS4 жыл бұрын
Nice PCH FAN RPM. That looks like a great mb. And i thought my Prime Pro's fan that runs at 2000 RPM is terrible. I feel better now :)
@Fezzy9764 жыл бұрын
hes using an itx board that has the pch fan cooling BOTH the vrm and the chipset. x570 chipset runs hot anyway, my crosshair 8 hero x570 pch fan runs at like 2500-3000rpm and the chipset sits around 40-60C i have seen upwards of 68C but I am running a PCIE4 Nvme drive so its pushing the chipset a bit.
@broklond3 жыл бұрын
I've set max boost override to +200 MHz on an asus prime x470 pro with an r5 3600 and in single core/lightly threaded applications it did boost up to 4.4 GHz instead of just 4.2. So it absolutely does something
@rayray002042 жыл бұрын
Yes, but don't manually adjust the core ratio. Just put it auto.
@alexstreamsgames50754 жыл бұрын
LOVE YOUR VIDEOS CHAMP, I ONLY LISTEN TO YOUR ADVICE AND GN. I GOT A X570 TUF AND 3700X DDR4 3600 GSKILL. SHOULD I USE PBO ON STOCK COOLER? IS IT WORTH THE TROUBLE FOR GAMING? I HAVE 2080 SUPER.
@NightOwlGames3 жыл бұрын
how do you change how the bios looks? mine looks like crap yours is very clear!
@surpriseblueviana38034 жыл бұрын
You have a plan to make this testing and ram in x570 Msi boards ?
@porklaser4 жыл бұрын
Tutorial for MSI motherboards? (Or was there one already done?)
@xkillerpn4 жыл бұрын
Can we apply this settings on a x370 gaming pro carbon for a 3900x? On my 1600 with 1.4v it's always at 50c on the vrm . Really want to upgrade to a 3900x just afraid of toasting the board lol
@berated45413 жыл бұрын
About the same results. +200 on cinebench. But squeezing more performance increased my bang for the buck thank you.
@Kraxt0n4 жыл бұрын
question will the msi b450I gaming plus ac motherboard handle those new 3000 chips while overclocking? i do have the 1600af at 4.1ghz 1.32volts llv4. also got some hyperx 3466 ram today RAN OUT THE BOX ill add with xmp pro 1. but yeah at you master >!!
@biteme2633 жыл бұрын
300/230/230 is the same settings for a 3900x. For the clock over boost thingy you are right, some chips and boards it works and others it doesn't. On my 3600 on a b450 tomahawk it worked. I got it to boost to around 4.4 under lighter loads. If you hammer all six cores though they only boost to like 4.1. With my 3900x on an auros elite wifi it has no effect that I could tell.
@valerirebonen1502 жыл бұрын
Did you use the same settings as in video for your 3600? I have 3600x and I wonder if I can use this guide and apply it to 3600x
@Chrisuu3 жыл бұрын
Just a quiky if you think the CPU draw to much voltage why would you leave it on auto? Is there any specific reason for that?
@foltarz84694 жыл бұрын
I found with my X570 MEG ACE with a 3900x and found using the settings that you showed a worse score than with it set at auto I'm not sure why this was but the MSI I think will be a interesting video
@cgsather33094 жыл бұрын
Just built a pc with 3800x and Asus x570 tuf, per BZ’s rec. Just tried these settings, got 5,940 on C20. Question is what to do w AMD Ryzen Master, leave alone? Do the bios settings override the RM settings or do I need to adjust anything?
@shrek74283 жыл бұрын
Question though, I have an gigabyte x570 elite with a 3700x, is it normal for it to be at 1.4v? Should I set the CPU vcore to auto or set it to 1.325?
@giorgiogalli61764 жыл бұрын
Sorry if I ask here do you think an asrock b450 pro 4 can handle a new Ryzen 3000 with more than 8 core without overclock? I cooled the vrm with a fan right now since I'm operating a 2700x lightly overclocked.
@3isr3g3n3 жыл бұрын
Strange, i rebooted about 40 times in the course of one afternoon, OCing my Corsair 3600 cl 18 RAM, and my OS didn't care one bit. Thanks Buildzoid, i'm gonna backup before i do that the next time.
@davidlee32033 жыл бұрын
does this work when manually oc 3700x to 4.4 ghz i mean by changing the power limit with a manual oc is it possible or do u need to keep it stock to do this
@sudo36444 жыл бұрын
Can you please also do a video for MSI mobos? 🙏
@letmikesmash56904 жыл бұрын
so my 3700x on a crosshair 7 with 32gb of 3200mhz cl14 ram is scoring around 4900 on cinebench r20, was curious if there is a much a difference if i just set pbo to enabled or manual like you have shown.
@GnarlySpookXT3 жыл бұрын
you think changing these powere limits will work for ryzen 5000?
@rash33824 жыл бұрын
Dude, my score in cinebench tops at 4750-4800 range on a dark rock 4 pro cooler, and cpu heats up to 82 C during the test. Is it just because of cheap 3466 memory in my setup or it's just poor heat dissipation in my case and it just throttles?
@willyandrejacobsenvinje64654 жыл бұрын
I did use aisuite 5way preformance and got 5004 pts i Cinebench r20 with the stock cooler on the ryzen 3700x chip.
@eyecraved4 жыл бұрын
What bios version are you using and will this work on older ones like abba version?
@ActuallyHardcoreOverclocking4 жыл бұрын
ABBA might even boost higher than 1004B
@madmax20694 жыл бұрын
Funny enough that is the motherboard and CPU combo I went with for my SFF gaming build
@SumeetSingh0013 жыл бұрын
I am getting random reboots with following the steps that are mentioned, what can I do to fix it? there are no error logs, so I am not sure whether DRAM XMP failed or PBO failed
@odetas95974 жыл бұрын
On an R5 3600 Max CPU boost clock override did give me +200 mhz on an Asus B450M which translated to a 4.4 Ghz. On my next board Gigabyte B450 AorusM, there is not a mhz adder and on the same CPU was limited to 4.2 Ghz
@Chrisuu3 жыл бұрын
What would selecting higher levels of LLC do like going 3 or above?. Running a r7 3700x on an Asus Vi hero x370
@nerdgamingpc70304 жыл бұрын
thank god, i also hav a 3700x but my mobo is Tuf Plus x570
@goblinproduction62343 жыл бұрын
Works on my ROG b550
@nerdgamingpc70303 жыл бұрын
@@goblinproduction6234 awesome
@stefan_dumitru3 жыл бұрын
I have a 3950x, msi gaming x trio 2080ti and 10 case fans with only a 750w power supply gold+. Will these settings be too much for the power supply to handle? Like, will it try to pull more power when there's not enough?