AMD never misses an opportunity to miss an opportunity.
@forog111 ай бұрын
LOL Right. When Nvidia releases a bad product AMD says "I can do better"
@BudgetGamerz11 ай бұрын
Truth 😂😂😂
@kraithaywire11 ай бұрын
LMAO
@josephpapcun814111 ай бұрын
This comment wins the internet today
@nicksw8411 ай бұрын
Brilliant 🤣
@ravenfeeder189211 ай бұрын
A GPU designed to make the 6700XT look even better.
@6ch6ris611 ай бұрын
as a 6700 XT user, I welcome this somehow :D
@zodwraith574511 ай бұрын
@@6ch6ris6 It's quite satisfying when a brand new GPU is released and it's no better in price or performance to your "old" one.
@peaj481211 ай бұрын
@@zodwraith5745 Or way way worse. I upgraded from an Rx 6800 XT to an Rx 6950 Xt because it was about 20% faster, so within 15% of the 7900 xt, but I got it for $450, almost half the launch price.
@zodwraith574511 ай бұрын
@@peaj4812 Yeah I really can't figure out why the 7900s are still so expensive. They're trying to compete with their prices anchored to a $1200 4080 and $800 70ti that no one is buying.
@pato980411 ай бұрын
Lmao😂 also hardware inbox has the 6700xt at 450$ and it is actually 350$
@VoldoronGaming11 ай бұрын
The 6800 is incredible value in the mid range right now along with the 6700 XT and imo the 2 best cards in the $300-450 price range.
@craciunator9911 ай бұрын
I got a 6700xt for $200 and it feels like a total steal, big upgrade from my 1070. 6700xt even at regular price is still probably the best price/performance out there.
@sgredsch11 ай бұрын
Yeah get the last gen product as long as you can
@NamAim199111 ай бұрын
I was able to pick a 6800 used for $250. I'm hoping it lasts me a while.
@maynardburger11 ай бұрын
@@sgredsch We shouldn't have to buy old gen parts to get decent value. This was never how it worked previously. And older parts always age worse relative to the current state of things. We're just getting screwed over in general by all involved, including the countless consumers who keep buying Nvidia's stuff.
@VoldoronGaming11 ай бұрын
@@craciunator99 Wow that is very cheap...did you get it openbox? New? I have a GTX 1080 and I don't usually play current gen games like Hogwarts, Spider-man, Halo Infinite...I tend to stay behind the current gen games by 4-5 years so the GTX 1080 is plenty powerful for my use case. Once the 6800 XT drops to say $150 in the used market I will upgrade.
@aerosw1ft11 ай бұрын
Expectations: new GPU silicon, better memory subsystem, 10-15% faster than 7600, MSRP $300. Reality: basically an overclocked 7600 with 16GB VRAM and $60 premium, gets destroyed by 6700XT at the same price. It seems like AMD really are allergic to gaining market share.
@jotinhafilho592011 ай бұрын
AMD loves wasting opportunities to dethrone Nvidia.
@OneDollaBill11 ай бұрын
The performance gains on sub 500$ cards are a big joke in this gen. 3060ti beats the 4060ti in some titles. Same with the 7600xt loses to old 6650xt and so on. This needed to be at least 6700xt level for 300$ for it to make any sense for anyone to buy.
@prostagma605511 ай бұрын
Bro they just added 50 bucks of vram and raised the price by 50 bucks you want better price performance go buy 6700-6700xt the card is meant to be cheapest possible 16 gig card for workloads that need that like modeling or ai 8 gigs for example cripples most free ai tools
@Diavolo22211 ай бұрын
@@jotinhafilho5920yeah we keep bashing nvidia but it s not their fault the competitors dont want to gain market share by doing strategic releases.
@josejuanandrade443911 ай бұрын
@@jotinhafilho5920 I dunno man... I'd say AMD is just doing very Nvidia moves of lately. Is hard to tell them apart.
@Fina1Ragnarok11 ай бұрын
As time goes on, I feel more and more validated in choosing a 6700xt. Doesn't hurt that I got it stupid cheap too, second hand.
@vinylSummer11 ай бұрын
6700xt really is THE choice for midrange builds
@HK2345311 ай бұрын
same here lol. im proud of my rx 6700 xt
@halocubed678811 ай бұрын
Same here. Might upgrade to an rtx 5070 next year as long as nvidia can deliver.
@Yerinjibbang11 ай бұрын
damnn 6700 xt is still the king!
@SkylarMelo11 ай бұрын
Same haha
@Randy1124pr11 ай бұрын
So this is basically what the $269 card should be and the 7600 needs to be $199. Don’t get me wrong I love AMD and these aren’t bad cards, I think they should just work on the pricing. 7800xt for $500, 7900xt for $700-$720 and the 7900xtx for $850-$900 aren’t bad prices but the 7700xt, 7600xt and 7600 feel overpriced. 7700xt for $369-399 should be a good deal, 7600xt for $269-279 and the 7600 for $199.
@Davinmk11 ай бұрын
a lot of the time when people say stuff like this it’s always something nonsensical like “the 4070 super should have cost 300$!” but this is actually accurate, this is the pricing for it to be actually competitive
@ondrejdobrota734411 ай бұрын
Pricing for all AMD cards is riddiculous, but AMD doenst care about customers or sales any more.
@zodwraith574511 ай бұрын
Even the ones you can argue for have issues. The 7800xt looks ok against the 4070, but bad against AMD's own 6800xt, and both 7900s are way too much to pay for GPUs that can't even do competent raytracing. Who wants to pay over $700 for a new GPU that still has compromises? Pretty much everything from 7000 series is just a fat disappointment and the only reason anyone even pays attention is because Nvidia is overpriced. But the whole reason Nvidia is _gaining_ market share is because once you hold your nose and pay Nvidia's greed tax you have a superior experience due to better upscaling, better frame gen, and vastly better RT performance. This is why Steve and Tim say AMD really needs to be 20% cheaper than Nvidia to be competitive.
@MrMartinSchou11 ай бұрын
Yeah, it's the AMD version of the 4060 Ti 16 GB, just in a lower performance tier. Expensive memory upgrade at the cost of power draw, but Nvidia has a far less severe power consumption hit. For example, the performance jump at 1440p is 4.7%/18.8% for the 7600XT and 2.5%/23.6% for the 4060Ti 16 GB.
@DMDMDM711 ай бұрын
more like this should be the 7600. and the current 7600 should not exist.
@Crumbbum11 ай бұрын
Thanks for another great review and getting it out before everyone else I think. I noticed at 6:27 the RX6600 is suspiciously high. In between the 7600XT and 2070.
@minhphamngoc867511 ай бұрын
I think he accidently had fsr on
@Eternalduoae11 ай бұрын
Personally, i believe the label is switched between the RX 6600 and RX 6650 XT in that one graph.
@nathaniel120711 ай бұрын
maybe that test data is from before CDPR changed the presets for the graphics, or an accidental swap in the labelling of 2 cards, probably the 6650xt if i had to guess.
@fajaradi122311 ай бұрын
@@Eternalduoae I'm with you in this one.
@nonametito259911 ай бұрын
I noticed that too. I think it was a small mistake where he swapped the label of the RX 6600 with the RX 6650 XT.
@DavidWB14711 ай бұрын
What is also interesting to me here, is how well the Intel Arc A770 16 GB holds up *on average*, after a significant number of driver improvements. The RT performance especially, is relatively speaking, respectable. I do own one (not in use currently), and it does seem to have moved from technical curio into a reasonably interesting card. Given it seems to have been built to compete with GeForce 30-series(?), perhaps it bodes decently for Battlemage, if it arrives. Good to see more cards in the low- to mid-range GPUs.
@JordanCorkins11 ай бұрын
For as much garbage as intel has done in the past, I cant help but root for them to get a foothold in this market.
@nimrodery11 ай бұрын
I think the resolution scaling shows there's still some performance left on the table for ARC, especially at 1080p. The drivers have at least matured to the point that most games work. It would be nice to see Intel expand to working with developers to ensure better support on day 1 (they seem to be making a little progress there). Undervolting controls would also be nice.
@Neopulse0011 ай бұрын
I'd suggest looking at Ancient Gameplays recent benchmarks with the RX 7600 and A770. I almost decided to get it until I saw his review.
@zodwraith574511 ай бұрын
Not to mention the cost per frame of the A750 that's actually 10 bucks less than Steve has it listed. It's been only $200 for quite a while now. Their drivers are starting to get good enough I probably wouldn't recommend people avoid it anymore.
@nimrodery11 ай бұрын
@@Neopulse00 I would have bought either the 6600 or 7600, they both retailed higher than the A750 and you can turn on raytracing without crippling the GPU. Intel just seems to be better at getting their GPUs to sell at MSRP (or less). If you're comparing the 7600 to the A770 there is definitely a market pricing problem.
@AshtonCoolman11 ай бұрын
AMD really needed to make sure it matched the 6700 XT by adding more hardware resources. A 16GB 6700 XT with AV1 support would sell well.
@GewelReal11 ай бұрын
It's called RX 7700 XT
@dededede925711 ай бұрын
@@GewelReal she have only 12gb
@deathtoinfidelsdeusvult218411 ай бұрын
@@GewelReal only has 12 GB while also more expensive.
@KrisDee198111 ай бұрын
No point having 16GB on a GPU like this. 12GB 6700XT for $300 and 4060/4060ti is dead!
@Eleganttf211 ай бұрын
@@dededede9257 you act as if 12GB is a sin lol more vram doesnt help more buddy (unless its only 8gb)
@atalkhan669811 ай бұрын
I really appreciate that you guys talk about the texture not loading on an 8gb card, I would have not known that if I was not informed by you guys.
@philodox759911 ай бұрын
You are a hero! I have a MSI MECH Rx 6650 xt 8GB and over black Friday I got a Sapphire pulse Rx 6700 Xt 12GB for $310 that I still have in the box and was wondering if I should just return it and get the Rx 7600 xt 16 GB.......... I am still not sure what to do but this video helped me A LOT. Thank you very much.
@VideogamesAsArt9 ай бұрын
@@tilapiadave3234 what a terrible advice. So someone who gets 300$ cards is suddenly supposed to get a 600$ product. why not a 7800 XT? why not 7900 XTX? why not RTX 4090?
@kamikaze_twist8 ай бұрын
@@tilapiadave3234 Tbh your comment sounds like someone who lacks basic common sense and critical reasoning skills. Nowhere OP has told that he has got the 6700 XT as a replacement for the 6650 XT and extremely optimistic and soft brained of you to think selling both cards on the used market would fetch him 600$ for the 4070 Super. So maybe sign up for the finger painting classes yourself before putting someone down?
@AnirudhTammireddy11 ай бұрын
5:00 The graphic of "test system specs" is a fantastic way to let viewers in. Thanks! Hope you keep that in. I think you guys 1 upped GN, LTT on the smooth intros too!
@BrokenKanuck11 ай бұрын
So glad I picked up the 6700XT before Christmas, stunning card.
@bsoda692 ай бұрын
should better get it during Christmas or New Year deals to get cheaper price, don't you think?
@quwarq11 ай бұрын
The part I like the most in this video is a strategy game like TWWH3 being included in the benchmark, tyvm!
@joeyr18411 ай бұрын
One pro that is never really mentioned for AMD GPUs is that the Adrenalin Software is really good. You can overclock or undervolt each game separate at the touch of a button.
@andreatilli622711 ай бұрын
Why would you do that?
@Kuriketto11 ай бұрын
@@andreatilli6227 To reduce fan noise, power consumption and thus heat output for games that don't need the GPU running at full tilt.
@deagle777611 ай бұрын
@@andreatilli6227someone who likes to overclock but doesn't want to overclock when it's negligible.
@taigewang353411 ай бұрын
@@andreatilli6227lots of reasons. People normally undervolt these day and it helps with thermals and more importantly power consumption.
@TheBackyardChemist11 ай бұрын
I think you have meant to write undervolt, not "under vault".
@wvjeepguy817811 ай бұрын
Two 8-pin connectors? That's a lot of power for a low end card.
@thewhiteknight992311 ай бұрын
Unlike the 4000 series, 7000 series isn't bragging about power efficiency for a reason
@singlsrvngfrnd11 ай бұрын
Each 8 pin connector is rated for 150 watts...... It's been that way for decades. 2 8 pins is on par.
@MadSupra35411 ай бұрын
Looking at power connectors as an indicator of power consumption is unwise
@morpheus_911 ай бұрын
@@thewhiteknight9923the efficiency is the same. Faster than the 4060 for a little bit more power draw. Just like the 7900XT is the same efficiency as the 4070 Ti Super. Idk why people keep saying that nvidias lovelace is WAY more efficient, because its NOT.
@morpheus_911 ай бұрын
@@John-PaulHunt-qy8hd exactly!
@zactodd314411 ай бұрын
For me, I agree with the separate name 7600 vs 7600xt. Everyone (incl HUB) has complained in the past about different ram models not being distinct enough... Granted that was also sometimes lesser rams (gt1030) but even all the 3060 models are consuming enough, especially when they changed the CUs as well. This you know there is one significant difference.
@MrHamof11 ай бұрын
13:42 Interesting note here, the A750 appears to be handling the lacking VRAM much better than other 8GB cards. I wonder why?
@sirgurky11 ай бұрын
I was so looking forward to this GPU! I got a RX 7800 XT in the end but still very exited to see how this performs!
@thelazt1611 ай бұрын
Was waiting for this but take too long so I tried getting into 2nd hand market and bought Sapphire Pulse 6700 XT at 200$ 3 weeks ago. Got some problem with it at first as my system won't boot at 3600MHz RAM (GSkill Trident Z RGB 3600MHz 2x8) so I changed it to 3200 and it runs fine. 2 weeks after another problem occur like game crash, hang, even BSOD, so tried reinstalling Windows since I use the onboard graphic before, 5600G, so it could be driver issue, tried with DDU but no dice, so I thought let's just reinstall but still same issue. I thought it was my graphic card but turned out it was my RAM slots all along. Once I moved it to A2B2, my system runs fine and it stays at 3600 MHz just fine. Now, It runs undervolted at stock clock and runs fine without any issue (temp at around 70-75C at full load). Great purchase. 3070 was around 325-350$ so I go AMD. At some point it was the same price but these last months all NVIDIA used cards seems to be going up like crazy. Seems like people are buying theme for AI stuff.
@rnt__11 ай бұрын
I'm glad my RX 6600 still one of the best price to performance gpus. I brought it for $190 like 6 months ago brand new. 0 issues so far.
@FunkyM21711 ай бұрын
Much as 16 gigs of VRAM entices, sticking with a 6600 like wot we haz surely do seem like a smart option right now.
@rnt__11 ай бұрын
@@FunkyM217 I don't need more than 8gb of vram right now. I play manly Escape from Tarkov on 1080p with medium settings. I think it can handle it just fine for now.
@fajaradi122311 ай бұрын
@@rnt__ At least until cheap or affordable high refresh rate OLED starting available for the masses, RX6600 is good enough for most cases.
@fVNzO11 ай бұрын
I really like these more personal videos with you in the frame and not just B roll. I know this has been going on for a while but for someone that has watched this channel since the pascal days the continual evolution of the format is very nice to see.
@galaxlordcz393311 ай бұрын
Bought the RX6650XT a year ago, good to see that it holds up fairly well to the 4060, planning to get a new PSU soon enough so a slight overclock should mean I match these newer cards in many games at 1080p.
@galaxlordcz393310 ай бұрын
@@tilapiadave3234 I never said that you should get the 6650XT today, all I said was that I am happy with my purchase that happened last year.
@PaulSpades11 ай бұрын
I think the conclusions on this one are spot on, with good arguments. My rx580 8gig is getting really tired, time to look for an rx6800 or something. I stopped buying new cards in the first ethereum mining boom (almost a decade ago?). Thank you Steve!
@stormgear89611 ай бұрын
I have already decided to go with 4060 soon until they started showing up the Super series this month. But if they did decide it to release the 7600XT at a better price point I might lean onto them.
@konstantinlozev227211 ай бұрын
Please, no RTX 4060. It's absolute garbage. Snatch a second hand RTX 3060Ti for USD 250 if you want to go Nvidia.
@vividfiber66682 ай бұрын
I love mine so much. Very glad i bought it. If you want a card that can play pretty much anything out rn in 1440 this is the one for you, what most people dont realize is that this card is great for stuff outside of gaming like video production and blender and other content creation
@mattg888811 ай бұрын
Having bought a 6700 (non XT) for the same price it is right now about two years ago, I feel quite good about the purchase. I honestly had pretty high hopes that AMD will take off with VRAM again, but this isn't as amazing as I hoped.
@ShadarThePcBuilder11 ай бұрын
That sound like good purchase
@agkshayanchandrasekar703111 ай бұрын
Was waiting for this video the whole day
@devonmoreau11 ай бұрын
What kind of impact did not increasing the memory bandwith make? Would it limit the advantages of more VRAM?
@MLWJ199311 ай бұрын
It usually matters when there's higher resolutions at play to keep your GPU cores fed. Considering the 7600XT lacks the corecount, the buswidth isn't too relevant (as is 16gb's worth of memory, 12 would've been more than sufficient for the performance level of this GPU).
@willn866410 ай бұрын
It really also depends which version of the 7600XT you get. Fortunately I got the PowerColor Fighter for only $300 and it has a faster clock speed than the ones that cost $330.
@omagad254211 ай бұрын
o yes lets go im rocking a rx570 4gb but imma watch all of HU vids. i like to watch tech stuff
@Brokenhill4211 ай бұрын
rx 480 4gb here....was planning on getting the 7600xt. still might but also not totally sure.
@mathesar11 ай бұрын
9:12 seeing 3060 Ti scoring higher than 4060 Ti in some games is just bizarre, all thanks to Nvidia's choice to use 128-bit memory bus with 4060 models.
@djGLCKR11 ай бұрын
They should have tried going with a cut-down Navi 32 instead of the full Navi 33... The 6700 XT and 6800 non-XT remain the best options in the sub-$400 range.
@haukionkannel11 ай бұрын
They have 7700 for that slot…
@cuma21211 ай бұрын
14:21? why is not an optimal solution , I take any day dlss quality at 1080p than the mushy clusterfuck that is TAA
@Silvar55x11 ай бұрын
Both HU hosts seem to consistently refer to the standard/traditional GPU temperature reading as "junction", but I believe (and Wikipedia agrees) that: "Junction temperature, short for transistor junction temperature, is the highest operating temperature of the actual semiconductor in an electronic device". So "junction" = "hotspot". The standard temperature is then "edge" or whatever.
@drupiROM11 ай бұрын
08:40 Oh, yes it is, on the campaign map. In 1440p with Extreme shadows i get to almost 11GB of vRAM on my RTX 4070. You should test the campaign map not the battle benchmark.,
@randomisedaccessgaming187611 ай бұрын
I think the best way to test this card is to test it along side the Intel Arc A770 16gb, and the RTX 4060ti 16gb, as these two cards are the closet rivals with 16gb of VRAM, it certainly would make a great revivew and the best bit would be the price vs performance comparison.
@randomisedaccessgaming187610 ай бұрын
@@tilapiadave3234 it should do it's more expensive than the competition and best developed of the three brands.
@Sidak_studio11 ай бұрын
6:40 is the 6600 being above the 6650xt and 7600 xt not weird, maybe something to look into ig Steve
@tomallan500011 ай бұрын
Unfortunately I need the performance of the 4070 and the vram of 16 GB to make an upgrade for me worth it. Which means going with the 7800XT or 4070 TI Super duper. As the super duper is $800 and after these recent releases I am probably going to end up with the 7800XT.
@TotallySlapdash11 ай бұрын
honestly, if you can stick it out another year I suspect things will get a fair bit better next gen. This has definitly been the 'make old parts look good so we can sell off our old crypto stock' generation... there's a reason the 6700/6800/XTs stilll look the best from a value perspective, and based on this launch I'm guessing AMD doesn't actually want to endanger that status quo yet.
@marius044811 ай бұрын
Like dash said, you can wait one more year if ur gpu holds up to what you need now.
@anarchonda727311 ай бұрын
Does it make sense to make dies/designs with odd memory bus width? Like 160 bit wide for 10GB of memory instead of the 128 and 8GB of the 6600 and now 7600. Same thing could apply to the x700 product segment with a 224 bit 14GB design choice. I wonder if AMD could of done this instead of packing it with 16GB memory.
@haukionkannel11 ай бұрын
They would have to use Same chip that is in 7700 and 7800 for that… it would be wastefull! 7700 allready is so much cut down that it makes no sense to AMD to make 7700s!
@anarchonda727311 ай бұрын
@@haukionkannel Hmm no? 7700 is a chiplet design. I was thinking that they would do what they did with the 6700 XT and its cut 6700 variant. 7600 XT being the complete die with 160bit width while the 7600 would be cut/locked to 128. As such AMD would provide at least something more than the same with a 2GB step up. The 4060 and 7600 feels more like AMD and Nvidia is shitting on its customers with a lackluster addition/upgrade from the 3060 and 6600.
@MLWJ199311 ай бұрын
The memory chips have 32-bit busses. So any total bandwidth would need to be divisible by 32 for GDDR6 memory. That's the only true constraint (and of course the capacity of the VRAM chip for the total amount of memory should be considered as well).
@drago93939311 ай бұрын
@@MLWJ1993So it can be 160, then.
@marcasswellbmd692211 ай бұрын
So my XFX 6800XT has been holding me down for a while now.. Thank God I picked that card, it has been plenty strong enough for 4K even on newer Games I am able to play at High settings.. It's been a great GPU for me.. That reminds me my PC needs a good cleaning, I really need to get on that..
@aaronriggs443011 ай бұрын
It seems like the big VRAM scare of last year has largely blown over.. Many games dont need anywhere close to 12gb until you get into RT ultra 1440p, or even 4k quality.. resolutions and graphics features that underpowered cards don't even have the raw horsepower to run in the first place. That, coupled with the fact that a lot of UE5 games seem to be maxing out VRAM usage UNDER 8gb, and the fact that many VRAM hogs at launch have been patched by developers (PS5 ports in particular) says to me that 16gb on an entry level/1080p card is just marketing overkill and a response to a concern peddled by PC gaming journalists who blew the situation out of proportion. In short, this thing will run out of raster power long before it ever actually needs anywhere near 16gb of vram.
@vincent_949411 ай бұрын
True, gamers do not require 16 GB VRAM in this segment. But AI applications do need a lot of VRAM. The more the better. A strong indication who are the real targeted customers of this card 😉
@burakozc307911 ай бұрын
16 is overkill but 8 is worse. Should be 12 from the beginning. Also 16 gig made a difference even it is not huge, it shows that same card benefits from more than 8gb vram.
@sgredsch11 ай бұрын
@hardwareunboxed glad you included arc this time! thanks Steve! back to you Steve! oops wrong Steve :[
@ronanwaring340811 ай бұрын
looking at the 3070 and my card just below it at 10:43 a big long oof, if this gen wasn't so overpiced I'd of upgraded by now.
@krakerkraker1110 ай бұрын
6700xt is better but its old technology now it doesnt have AI cores, that means when amd make AI based upscaling software on par with dlss 6700xt wont get that, tbh i recently changed my entire system but gpu, still using rtx 2080ti, i'll either purchase a 5070ti or 8800xt or something when they come out
@prrocker963711 ай бұрын
The gigabyte gaming oc hotspot Temps are exactly the same on the higher end cards I have the xtx ver of it and there's always a 30C difference between the gpu and hotspot Temps steer clear of those cards if possible
@paulunga11 ай бұрын
This once again just solidifies how good a deal the 6700 XT I bought around Black Friday 2022 for 390€ was. After owning six or seven mid-range Nvidia cards this was just a no-brainer for my setup. And the switch was actually pretty much seamless, everything worked out of the box without driver issues (using DDU), it immediately took custom profiles, heavily modded and dll-injected games like Skyrim just worked, custom app profiles and undervolting was super easy. FSR is a bit of a bummer, don't like the way it looks at all. XeSS pretty much always looks better to me, ideally all future games will let you choose between them.
@EMU111 ай бұрын
I would pick up a used 3070ti for the same price... I think this misses the mark, and I honeslty am not too concerned with VRAM on lower tier cards. By the time it actually starts to be an issue, another budget card can slot in its place for large gains at the same price range, or lower price with an improvement in performance. This card needed to be under $300 to provide any real value. There also need to be sub 200mm variants for small builds. That is something that there are very few AMD cards capable of.
@QuentinStephens11 ай бұрын
Great work; you really are a glutton for punishment! But your hard work is much appreciated. I do think you are making a mistake in not covering 4k, but rather than using the highest settings for these cards please test medium settings. Such information is both interesting and useful: lots of people have 4k TVs these days. Think of parents bringing the PC into the living room so a child can be supervised while playing. Something extra I would like to see you test somehow is performance and stability while streaming. One content creator I watch had problems streaming Jedi Survivor on a RTX card until he added a second RTX card to handle the streaming. The issue may have been VRAM usage. But I appreciate you have only so much time. I was surprised and pleased to see how well the Arc A770 fared, and I think it deserved more mention. That card now sorely needs a price drop to be competitive.
@yuruparmacordis42811 ай бұрын
Just ordered 6750XT two days ago. Both have same price but even if 7600XT gets cheaper as time goes i don't think i will find 6750XT later.
@TheBoltcranck11 ай бұрын
will new driver 24.1.1 help the 16Gb version vs the old 23.12.1?
@GENERiCmood11 ай бұрын
24.1.1 is the launch driver for the 7600xt, it doesn't work with older drivers. and to answer your question, NO, this GPU is too weak to leverage a 16gb VRAM buffer.
@TheBoltcranck11 ай бұрын
@@GENERiCmood at 4:40 you can see that the driver used was the 23.12.1
@GENERiCmood11 ай бұрын
@@TheBoltcranck that was the driver for the other AMD cards tested. usually AMD supplies reviewers with a special press driver that supports the new card similar to public preview drivers.
@spladam384511 ай бұрын
AT 6:38 how is the 6600 and the 2070 outperforming the 7600, the 4060, 7600XT AND the 6650XT.
@NadeemAhmed-nv2br11 ай бұрын
Architect differences, like how the 7900 xtx beats the 4090 in cod or mdw
@spladam384511 ай бұрын
The 6650XT is the exact same architiecture, just with faster ram, and higher core clocks. SAME GPU. It's the XX50 version, so it's a BETTER version of a BETTER GPU on the EXACT SAME DIE. @@NadeemAhmed-nv2br
@kosmosyche11 ай бұрын
This card actually makes me a bit depressed about the current state of GPU market. Thanks AMD (and of course special thanks to Nvidia too)! 🤣
@Riztard11 ай бұрын
Thanks Steve!
@NatrajChaturvedi11 ай бұрын
You are a very optimistic dude. I got depressed many moons back seeing many other GPU releases.
@aldente682111 ай бұрын
10:18 - 3060ti faster then 4060ti? VRAM buffer?
@ipotato9511 ай бұрын
After skipping ahead to power efficiency and average frame rates, why would anyone buy this over the 6700xt? It’s barely more power efficient but also about 10% slower. Wouldn’t expect one tier lower yet one generation newer to have that poor of a result compared a 3 year old product
@andersjjensen11 ай бұрын
AMD thanks you for your observation and encourages you to buy some of their mountain of RDNA2 stock still in the channels that constantly prohibits them from moving freely :P
@mired754611 ай бұрын
6:38 how rx6600 could be better then rx7600 or rx6650xt?
@vineetkumarbharti263311 ай бұрын
I'm not surprised by the fact that rx 6700 xt is still a better value than any latest release, even after 1 year of RDNA 3 launch. Amd really showed they are no better than Nvidia. Was hoping for something like 48CU 2250mhz GPU for same price. Anyway they have decided to ruin Radeon brand, no one can stop them.
@afrofantom663111 ай бұрын
sahi bole bineet bhai
@NamTran-xc2ip11 ай бұрын
Somehow AMD fanbois still say its better tho 😂😂
@zodwraith574511 ай бұрын
AMD has already proven they badly _want_ to gouge you as much as Nvidia does, they just can't make good enough GPUs and features. Threadripper pricing shows you _exactly_ how greedy AMD is if they hold the lead.
@JanM211 ай бұрын
Interestingly however, when it comes to their CPUs, they're not nearly as greedy selling 7800x3ds at 360€ or Ryzen 5 7600s at 180€
@haukionkannel11 ай бұрын
Cheaper than 4060… what more could we expect?
@samsonsimmlmann81311 ай бұрын
Still pretty happy with my 7600 Hellhound (8G of course) I bought half a year ago for 219€, including shipping and a copy of Starfield. The only thing I would complain about is that undervolting is almost impossible, still not sure why. Runs stable with 2900Mhz boost at 1.185V (instead of 1.2). But even with reduced boost I can't really reduce voltage by a reasonable margin. Behaves a bit odd, thoug, doesn't tend to crash so much at full load, some benchmarks run for hours without issues, but when playing older games.
@valentinvas645411 ай бұрын
They should release an RX 7700 non XT for $390 because right now the 6700 XT and 6750 look like better deals
@haukionkannel11 ай бұрын
Ofcourse… 6000 series is old. So they try to sell those out in discount. Nobody would buy them unless the old ones would be better value! So also no need to reduce 7700 price!
@andersjjensen11 ай бұрын
They want them to be better deals. Dr Su addressed in an investor conference call that AMD is sitting on a mountain of RDNA2 stock because the crypto bubble popped and GPU sales went down the drain for 6 months straight after (mostly due to second hand market being attractive).
@johnpaulbacon832011 ай бұрын
If the GDDRX memory was to be used instead of the non-X memory how much of a boost to performance would there be? Would that be worth the extra cost and power usage? Would a higher level memory bus help any? Would the cost of using a higher memory bus be worth it?
@youraveragejoephoto11 ай бұрын
Got here within a couple of minutes even though I don’t even need to buy a GPU. Content is good so I watch it for the quality info!
@nixnet833 ай бұрын
Here in Poland the price diff between 7600 XT (390 USD) and 4060 (340 USD) is not that much, but the extra 8GB sounds like a good thing on paper. I'm gonna go with AMD because I already have AMD CPU and I guess the other people's reasoning might be similar - if they already have a GSync monitor, its going to be Nvidia, if they own Intel CPU and feel a bit adventurous they might opt for Arc 770. I'm only changing my GPU because I bought a 43" TV instead of an 40" monitor for my desk, and the TV doesn't have a DP and the my GTX 1660 doesn't have a HDMI 2.1 port, so I can't use Freesync on an Nvidia card (worked decently with DP) :/
@DAni1478711 ай бұрын
Benchmark charts are all over the place
@MirelRC11 ай бұрын
6:28 uhm this might be a mistake. A 6600 shouldn't be over a 6650 XT or 7600.
@manuelhernandez201711 ай бұрын
"We could definitely take a massive gain in market share and destroy the competition, .. nah, let's just overcharge slightly less than Nvidia"...
@Yo6413010 ай бұрын
What I have learn looking through dozens of videos to decide which GPU to buy and deciding for 7600XT is that you get what you pay for. Sure the better ones are better but are also more expensive almost at a linear rate. I was going to get a 6800 because on all the reviews it is the best bang for buck, but the bucks were not there 50% more expensive than the 7600xt, it would have thrown off my budget. It is hard not to buy the best there is but hey I have been gaming and using blender pretty decently with a 1650 for the last 4 years, this card is a fair upgrade to that one. To me 60 frames at 1440p is more than enough, dont care that much about ray tracing. And using those AMD image upsacelers I cant tell the difference, I left my bragging brain at college a long time ago. "Yes but you cant game at 220fps" dude I dont even notice the difference past 120. Also some of the cards in comparisson above the 7600XT where way above 50% more expensive or where 8GB, and I rather gane at 30fps stable than have stutters.
@craciunator9911 ай бұрын
Boy do I feel even better about getting a 6700xt for only $200
@Chrissi3300411 ай бұрын
buying used is the only real option for budget gamers atm. Like he said. The card should have released 6 months ago at 300. Getting a 6700xt, 6800Xt, rtx 3070 or 3080 used ist so much better value than buying whatever this is
@dawienel114211 ай бұрын
@6:38 RX6600 results doesn't seem quite right vs the 7600/6650xt/7600xt. Regardless great review as always. 🙂
@xenom0rpheee11 ай бұрын
So you miss the last AMD Update 24.1.1 driver for 7600XT and other features.
@sgredsch11 ай бұрын
it mostly introduces bugs anyway. better wait for the fix driver next time around
@ThaexakaMavro11 ай бұрын
at 6:37 how the rx6600 is faster than the rx6650xt doesn't make sens must be an error .
@Blaczek29711 ай бұрын
i think rx 7600 xt 16gb is sometimes good alternative to rtx 4060 or even rx 6700 non xt/xt
@Ghostlynotme44511 ай бұрын
Dude 6700 xt faster then Rx 7600 xt 16gb if it would been $250 it would been a steal
@haukionkannel11 ай бұрын
The target was and is 4060… that is the Only competition to this GPU that AMD cares about!
@haukionkannel11 ай бұрын
@@Ghostlynotme445 Of course 6700 is cheaper and faster! It os old tech and sold at discount!
@Ghostlynotme44511 ай бұрын
@@haukionkannel and you know that 7600 xt should been the performance 6700 xt instead of overclock 7600 with 16gb barely trying 4060
@dbunik4411 ай бұрын
you guys need to go on a motherboard rant, I've been in the comments on Reddit asking these guys why they need to plug their $400 graphics card into an $800 mobo?, this has got to be the no. 1 thing people overspend on
@Samantas585511 ай бұрын
Make the red bars darker on 1% lows
@AndreiNeacsu11 ай бұрын
Is there a typo, or is the RX 6600 faster than the RX 7600XT in C.P.2077-P.L. 1080p@high_quality?
@BMA30711 ай бұрын
I noticed the same thing. That can't be right.
@HondoJarrus11 ай бұрын
AMD's last gen mid-range is legendary - my Sapphire Nitro 6700XT is remarkable, playing Cyberpunk w/ FSR Quality at 4K60fps on my 4K TV.😍 It keeps surprising me with good performance.👏 (I think it might be the new GTX1060 for longevity.)
@albertdl579511 ай бұрын
Sapphire Nitro+ Rx6700XT could barely get 60 FPS @ 1440p FSR in Cyberpunk 2077. KZbin benchmarks also only get 30FPS at 4k on average. How are you even getting 60?
@@albertdl5795 FSR2.1 on Quality with Hardware Unboxed optimized settings.👍
@BlackMage100011 ай бұрын
At 05:35 the RTX 3060 fps is above the RTX 4060 and both RX 7600, is this correct?
@SM-cq1mm11 ай бұрын
It happens in some games
@cftyckct11 ай бұрын
Popcorn time!
@richardnpaul_mob11 ай бұрын
It's not just the boost clocks but the base clocks that have seen a much more significant bump to clocks. I didn't see if there was a change to game clocks with the XT
@McKluskie11 ай бұрын
what annoys me about this channel and others is that they dont seem to realise that people upgrade their cards, mostly after 2-3 generations so they should always shows these in the benchmarks and not just some seemingly random cards they have laying around. There should have been 5600/5600xt , 5700 / 5700xt on here as an absolute minimum. There needs to be direct comparisons between the previous and previous before that generations in current games.
@shlapmaster11 ай бұрын
Real
@ookami-chan332811 ай бұрын
actually this channel features many older generation card in their reviews. Just not in every single ones.
@kseries198111 ай бұрын
Do you not see the 2060 and 2070?
@adamek975011 ай бұрын
Sorry they didn’t include every gpu under the sun
@houdini32911 ай бұрын
Jup, exactly my thoughts. Especially the budget segment needs comparison further down the line. Its nice that there is a 2060 in there sometimes, though. And i know, why they do it. Cards from earlier generations aren't really usable in new games, so they look really bad. Although thats often due to the settings, which are quite often set to ultra, which is just pointless most of the time if you ask me.
@gabrielvillarreal305111 ай бұрын
I must have missed it. Do these benchmarks take into account DLSS or FSR?
@Pouria_166411 ай бұрын
Not enough horse power to need more than 8gbs. The original should've had 10-12 and this would've been something stronger with the same memory configuration perhaps
@neoaliens863511 ай бұрын
Amazing speed Steve! Time to enjoy this blockbuster video fast!
@jayarr1511 ай бұрын
My takeaway is, buying 3060ti is such a great move and it still holds up.
@CharlesStickmin-f7n11 ай бұрын
yeap still got mine its still doing great. but i will be upgrading my 1660ti soon. i was thinking with a 7600xt but im going to hold off wait for price drops. 6700 is a great card but to big for my case
@tomstech439011 ай бұрын
So far the best think I've heard the Nvidiots say is "but the 6700xt" which is hilarious. They say things like "16GB on a low end card is useless and only pcie4x8 is anti consumer"...., then you point out the 4060Ti with the same Vram and PCIE for 33% more money and they go silent. If you wanna spend less and don't need 16GB.. then buy the 7600 that is an option AMD provie, But people don't understand what the meaning of "option" is anymore.
@marktackman288611 ай бұрын
These companies know EXACTLY what it takes to get a good reception in the market, they make purposeful decisions to inhibit their products in the market, they need new leadership!
@maynardburger11 ай бұрын
They aren't trying to 'inhibit' their products, they are simply trying to maximize margins at every corner. They've all gone crazy with greed.
@tuckerhiggins433611 ай бұрын
Not how capitalism works. Nvidia is currently making record profits, so they won't change ceo. Amd is about to follow suite too
@marktackman288611 ай бұрын
@@maynardburger AMD needs new leadership
@marktackman288611 ай бұрын
@@tuckerhiggins4336 AMD needs new leadership
@felipeavlopes11 ай бұрын
I guess that other than rather carefully inspecting games for visual difference, from a performace standpoint the doubled VRAM would only come into play if coupled with a wider memory bus, which we're not seeing really in these latest GPUs unless way up the product stack
@johnpen26911 ай бұрын
AMD gpus are trash u cant even do AI with them and are stuck with FSR
@alessandropisano990311 ай бұрын
Are normal that memory temps? 😅
@DragonOfTheMortalKombat11 ай бұрын
What a mess, 7600 has more VRAM than 7700xt. An yes, it is a 7600 not xt, they didn't bother upgrading any compute units.
@haukionkannel11 ай бұрын
7600 is allready full die… you can not add more to allready full gpu chip…
@DragonOfTheMortalKombat10 ай бұрын
@@haukionkannel Should've made a cut down version of the 7700xt die then.
@drago93939311 ай бұрын
Q: Does the Bus Type have to be either 128-bit or 192-bit (or another 64 multiplier) or can it be something in between? Could it be for example 160-bit? Would be helpful if it was possible.
@lharsay11 ай бұрын
It has to be a multiple of 32. The 5GB variant of the GTX1060, the RX6700 10GB and the RTX4000 Ada 20GB are 160bit cards.
@shanesmith517811 ай бұрын
No, because the drivers suck and support for updated drivers suck. I wish AMD could win the war entirely for an entire generation to shake up the market but its always the same issues. I also hope Intel continues to improve its product line and drivers; then makes higher end cards. I have people coming in for issues with their AMD cards constantly at my work. I have to reinstall everything just to tell them it's a driver issues 90% of the time. Honestly, I have never had an Nvidia one come in unless they break or it needed to be RMAed. ( don't jam the card into the slot like it's your first time on prom night please).
@Randy1124pr11 ай бұрын
I have had AMD cards for almost a year and a half now and have never had a single issue.
@haukionkannel11 ай бұрын
I have had AMD GPU for 6 years and no issues… before that 6 years NVIDIA gpu and no issues…
@shanesmith517811 ай бұрын
It doesn't matter how many if you haven't had problems. What matters is everyone else who does. I say this everyday at work. Being the exception does not change the facts at hand. I deal with 100s of cards yearly and AMDs have issues commonly while Nvidia doesn't. It doesn't need to be a fanboy fight. I have been a AMD got for over 20 years. It doesn't change that their GPUs are inferior currently.
@hawkeire2414Ай бұрын
Looking to pick up a new GPU for my PC, Came across this, The RX7600 XT and the prices are still 385€ (405 Dollers) even seen one for 450€ (475 Dollers) here in europe lol.. Its hard to find something good for under 400€ in europe unless you go the buying used way, But even then they sell for 250.. I really have no idea which one to buy lol.. I think having the 16gb Vram is the way to go tho.
@ItsNotAProblem11 ай бұрын
The AMD cycle: 1. Release an overpriced GPU 2. Get bad reviews 3. Discount it like crazy 4. Get poor sales and no profit 5. Hype up the next release with artificial leaks with fake stats
@mustachesally413410 ай бұрын
I say we just stop buying new gpus and gauge the eyes of the gpu market. If you got a new gpu 3 years ago, you still have 5-6 more years until you decide whether you want a new gpu or replace. No need to buy a new gpu every 2 years .
@SidneyCritic11 ай бұрын
This "missing picture quality", ie, fudged frames, problem sux, it would be a big PITA recording the test footage and comparing it every time when it has to run for 30min to become apparent.
@forbidden_box11 ай бұрын
I feels like dejavu all over again. Back when rx6600s released, they all get critizied for not worth price = performance. Gave it 2 years to mature now its the best budget card on the market lmao
@RurouTube11 ай бұрын
In my country I probably would recommend 6700XT for GPU at around this price tier. Here you can actually buy 6700XT at a significantly cheaper price than 7600XT. Having said that, depending on what you want to do with the GPU, 7600XT might be for you. Obviously, the biggest advantage is driver stability (VS Intel at least) and 16GB VRAM. If you need those 2 things at around this price, then the only option is 7600XT. Anyway, what reviewers often overlook is the real world VRAM usage. Usually review is being done with a clean system with almost nothing other than the default stuff were running in the background. From my own experience, I don't close all application when playing games. Often I leave browser with multiple tabs open. Those open apps does use VRAM and depending on what kind of apps open, it might use more or less. This can make some games that previously run well on 8GB ended up unplayable. I experienced this when I was playing Uncharted with 8GB GPU when according to benchmarks on the internet I should get 60FPS but ended up with a slide show. I can imagine someone that want to live stream, 8GB GPU is probably going to be a bit on the edge. 12GB should be good enough for most games, but alas, if you want to live stream you probably want something that can do AV1 (especially since Twitch right now is experimenting with it) thus making 6700XT kinda meh for it (and H.264 encoding on Radeon is not good. Usable but not good). Personally if you want to stream but on a budget, I would recommend 3060 12GB, but right now you can either buy that or 7600XT. I also would only recommend 3060 12GB if you really want Nvidia GPU because it is priced similarly and 7600XT is definitely faster and has a bit more VRAM. I would never recommend 8GB or lower GPU for a streamer unless it is simply impossible for the person to buy a $300-ish GPU which by then my recommendation would be either buying RX 7600 or just go for the cheapest but still good GPU, which is RX 6600. Yes, 6600 stream quality will be meh, but if you can only afford a GPU at $200 or lower there is not much of a choice unless you're comfortable buying Arc.
@DaKrawnik11 ай бұрын
Cost per frame @ 1440p???
@sebastianpalacios267911 ай бұрын
Wait why is Alan Wake 2 missing from the benchmarks?
@gkirmathal11 ай бұрын
Glad I got the 6700XT couple of months ago. Last thing remaining: a monitor upgrade to ultrawide. Regretfully not much choice (lots of products) it's either 1440p and up or go home. UWFHD seem to have vanished.