Everyone Loses. - NVIDIA 4060 Ti vs. AMD RX 7600

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@foureight84
@foureight84 Жыл бұрын
Next week, Nvidia will announce the RTX 4030ti targeting 720p gaming.
@GewelReal
@GewelReal Жыл бұрын
finally! I'm ready to pay 200$ for it!
@beri4138
@beri4138 Жыл бұрын
At 300 watts
@fane2323
@fane2323 Жыл бұрын
@@beri4138 eh, at best these ada cards are much more power efficient though
@shaoyangzhang8523
@shaoyangzhang8523 Жыл бұрын
nah! You are too optimistic about Nvidia. It should target 480p 70FPS on average with DLSS 3.0 and RTX on😄
@_Gray_Fox
@_Gray_Fox Жыл бұрын
😅 true!
@perochialjoe
@perochialjoe Жыл бұрын
This generation of cards really has been the "Wait for Intel to come save us" generation
@DragonOfTheMortalKombat
@DragonOfTheMortalKombat Жыл бұрын
Best description of these GPUs.
@PDXCustomPCS
@PDXCustomPCS Жыл бұрын
Tree years later...😆 jk
@icky_thump
@icky_thump Жыл бұрын
The one thing AMD and NVIDIA fans can finally agree on lmao
@NicksonYT
@NicksonYT Жыл бұрын
Seeing the performance of the A750 at just 200 bucks, yeah
@stevenwest1494
@stevenwest1494 Жыл бұрын
Especially given AMD's crippling competition from AMD's last year's generation. Not sure why they even told us about FSR 3, when it's non existent, just the rx77/7800
@MadBlazer89
@MadBlazer89 Жыл бұрын
This video nails it!!! If Nvidia and AMD would actually provide capable GPUs at price points that people could afford, then we wouldn't have been stuck on 1080p for the last 15 years.
@giratina_86
@giratina_86 Жыл бұрын
but, do we really need more than 1080p? are we capable to tell the difference between 1080p -1440p and 4k?
@butter6095
@butter6095 Жыл бұрын
@@giratina_86 on 24" monitor probably not very noticeable
@Avi-tq6fd
@Avi-tq6fd Жыл бұрын
1440p at 27inch and 4k from 32 to 40inch.
@maegnificant
@maegnificant Жыл бұрын
​@@giratina_86 ehm, yes very easily so in fact.
@oscatMeow
@oscatMeow Жыл бұрын
@@giratina_86maybe you should actually look at and compare in person before you say stuff like that. Yes, it is obvious.
@Andrey-rc6wp
@Andrey-rc6wp Жыл бұрын
Frame gen needs to be BLATANTLY displayed on any marketing graphs, not tucked away at the bottom. I don't care if you have the best tech, I want to know how much raw horsepower I have to play with, not how much magical unicorn dust I can pitentially to play with.
@Chic-A-Dee
@Chic-A-Dee Жыл бұрын
Nvidia's been tucking away important info in their marketing materials for years. The lacklustre launches of the 4070 and 4060 just made it more noticeable.
@smaller_cathedrals
@smaller_cathedrals Жыл бұрын
Nonsense. Absolute nonsense. If the game runs smoothly, it runs smoothly. Makes absolutely no dfference how that performance is achieved.
@alderwield9636
@alderwield9636 Жыл бұрын
Relying on frame gen for lack of horsepower is kinda 💀
@triliner254
@triliner254 Жыл бұрын
And stuff like that would likely cause input lag, delay and all sort of other side effects which would make competitive games unplayable.
@goldenhate6649
@goldenhate6649 Жыл бұрын
@@triliner254 Exactly, people forget frame gen does not account for input lag. If the gpu is only getting true 40 fps but displaying 80, your input lag is still based on the 40 fps.
@Sam-fp1cd
@Sam-fp1cd Жыл бұрын
Ali is usually so chill in his videos, so seeing him dunk on these cards is hilarious for some reason 🤣
@TheAlexmynameis
@TheAlexmynameis Жыл бұрын
It's some "I'm not mad, I'm just disappointed" Dad-Vibes.
@astroboy8531
@astroboy8531 Жыл бұрын
Is his name ali ??
@maximus3294
@maximus3294 Жыл бұрын
​@@astroboy8531 indeed it is!
@DownForwardPunchRepeat
@DownForwardPunchRepeat Жыл бұрын
When Ali gives you that look you know you fuked up
@_baniraaisu6711
@_baniraaisu6711 Жыл бұрын
​@@TheAlexmynameis the most terrifying type of anger imo
@gatsuberserk4227
@gatsuberserk4227 Жыл бұрын
Really like this style of graphs. Really easy to understand and for more detailed info there are always awesome channels like Gamers Nexus and Hardware Unboxed. Love this format.
@LIFEOFSTUFFEDANIMALS
@LIFEOFSTUFFEDANIMALS Жыл бұрын
They are very clean looking too
@zzerod
@zzerod Жыл бұрын
best graphs in the game
@fVNzO
@fVNzO Жыл бұрын
I'd say Hardware Unboxed still makes the most easy to understand graphs in the entire industry. I don't know why everyone doesn't just copy them outright it's really the most obvious way to showcase the data. It's not even in the same stratosphere as GN imo, that has some really bad graph UI (which is somewhat fine since they don't really care about that too much).
@592Johno
@592Johno Жыл бұрын
​@@fVNzO what 💀
@fVNzO
@fVNzO Жыл бұрын
@@592Johno yes
@tadejpeckaj1151
@tadejpeckaj1151 Жыл бұрын
Actually my salary didn’t go up since last year, all the prices went up, so this GPU is actually harder to afford, since my non essentials budget went down 😢
@chronometer9931
@chronometer9931 Жыл бұрын
Exactly!!!
@veduci22
@veduci22 Жыл бұрын
Funny thing is that all companies are claiming inflation as main reason for higher prices while vast majority of employees don't even receive salaries increased by the rate of inflation...
@kevinwho.
@kevinwho. Жыл бұрын
First thing I thought lol. Our salaries are not adjusting for inflation
@summushieremiasclarkson4700
@summushieremiasclarkson4700 Жыл бұрын
@@kevinwho. The irritating bit is that increasing salary to compensate for inflation will only inflate further. The only solution is an overall stronger economy and local manufacturing so the prices go down, ie, deflation by manufacturing goods and services.
@freddygalis1497
@freddygalis1497 Жыл бұрын
Perfect practical definition of inflation.
@circuitfever
@circuitfever Жыл бұрын
Straight to the point. Optimum Tech optimized reviews.
@ioguapin
@ioguapin Жыл бұрын
YEP.
@charanteja200
@charanteja200 Жыл бұрын
It's 7600 right, but in the video you have mentioned it as 6700 while comparing specs with 6600
@optimumtech
@optimumtech Жыл бұрын
Woops my bad. It's not even worth of being called a 6700 let's be honest.
@sora6573
@sora6573 Жыл бұрын
@@optimumtech oh damnn
@hydrohelic
@hydrohelic Жыл бұрын
@@optimumtech ye im in the mixed bag for both companies (3050 gang)
@nayan.punekar
@nayan.punekar Жыл бұрын
​@@optimumtechYou should compare it to the 6700.
@tonnynguyen390
@tonnynguyen390 Жыл бұрын
@@nayan.punekar 6700 better while at the same price
@FARBerserker
@FARBerserker Жыл бұрын
Intel also dropped the price of the 750 with 8GB to 199$
@fernandoferraz4146
@fernandoferraz4146 Жыл бұрын
Wait for real???
@superkhangfn8593
@superkhangfn8593 Жыл бұрын
Damn, it's funny that blue team is more budget friendly than AMD or Nvidia
@saintgtx
@saintgtx Жыл бұрын
Too bad their drivers suck. I've heard people can't even load up Apex Legends.
@superkhangfn8593
@superkhangfn8593 Жыл бұрын
@@saintgtx I thought they fixed their drivers tho?
@fernandoferraz4146
@fernandoferraz4146 Жыл бұрын
@@superkhangfn8593 They did... Mostly
@vael_
@vael_ Жыл бұрын
Not sure if the names of the cards referenced at 3:04 are accurate, I'm guessing it's supposed to be RX 6600 vs RX 7600?
@sauravchhabra840
@sauravchhabra840 Жыл бұрын
yeah, I noticed that too
@mech4byte
@mech4byte Жыл бұрын
its on purpose dude its the same card almost!
@Sleepyless
@Sleepyless Жыл бұрын
Biggest problem that i don't see reviewers talking about is how if you keep upgrading your 60s/70s cards(that only gets you 10% upgrade every year) it will take you YEARS to get the same generational upgrade like 3090 -> 4090, maybe the 7060ti will be decent
@proress
@proress Жыл бұрын
4070ti gets the same performance as 3090ti
@TheFalseShepphard
@TheFalseShepphard Жыл бұрын
@@proress Buddy I don't think it does 💀
@maegnificant
@maegnificant Жыл бұрын
Almost like they want you to buy the more expensive cards:o
@UserOfTheName
@UserOfTheName Жыл бұрын
@@TheFalseShepphard I think it matched the 3090 non ti
@emperor719
@emperor719 Жыл бұрын
Deffirnece between 1060 -2060 and 3060 is quite big same goes for 1070-2070 and 3070 it's only on this gen that this is happening
@Andrew-cp7mc
@Andrew-cp7mc Жыл бұрын
Best concise summary of both cards in under 10 min - good job! No need to watch the others really unless you are after specific game performance or GPU comparison.
@imnotusingmyrealname4566
@imnotusingmyrealname4566 Жыл бұрын
No you should really watch the others. This video is too positive for this card and you will fall into the trap of the 8GB version which is not enough even today.
@Vikram21-2K
@Vikram21-2K Жыл бұрын
Positive?? He said not to buy these cards. Just because he didn't stress on 8gb vram isn't enough doesn't make it positive
@teapouter
@teapouter Жыл бұрын
I found the lack of AMD cards in the graphs to be unacceptable. Talking about used pricing and not actually going on to Newegg to compare new to new. I don't mind the mentioning of used prices, but you should also compare new to new. That makes more sense to me. Also no mention of MSRP for the 6600, and he's just wrong about the 4070 being the fastest card for $600. It isn't. 6950 XT wipes the floor with the 4070.
@imnotusingmyrealname4566
@imnotusingmyrealname4566 Жыл бұрын
@@teapouter and you get more VRAM with the 6950 XT so it will last you longer and therefore any costs associated with increased power consumption will be offset.
@noodlesoup2892
@noodlesoup2892 Жыл бұрын
Really good review thank you for compacting down all the information easy to understand in under 10 min.
@Gay-is-_-trash
@Gay-is-_-trash Жыл бұрын
Bidenflation
@pharo.3074
@pharo.3074 Жыл бұрын
@@Gay-is-_-trash i would also wish to live in bliss and pull out the universal biden scapegoat when companies blame shortages for them raising costs. totally not greed!
@alphaomega1969
@alphaomega1969 Жыл бұрын
Stupid review imo, the guy lost whole concept of review lol
@ironman-fg3jh
@ironman-fg3jh Жыл бұрын
@@pharo.3074 Yeah that guy's just acting like the pandemic didn't throw the entire global economy into chaos and wreck supply chains. These "conservative" clowns are the kind that think COVID wasn't real so don't bother arguing.
@justanotherpxrson
@justanotherpxrson Жыл бұрын
Thanks for not being afraid to put AMD and Nvidia in their place. Sometimes it feels like things are just consistently getting worse in the industry.
@Gay-is-_-trash
@Gay-is-_-trash Жыл бұрын
He lied. 40 series is amazing if you recognize Bidenflation exists
@zenon3021
@zenon3021 Жыл бұрын
@@Gay-is-_-trash out of curiosity, where did you read/hear Biden is responsible for GLOBAL inflation?
@dart-kotlin-dev
@dart-kotlin-dev Жыл бұрын
@@Gay-is-_-trash sounds like someones's bought a 40 series card
@theftking
@theftking Жыл бұрын
3:05 I think he meant 7600?
@Jackson-bh1jw
@Jackson-bh1jw Жыл бұрын
facing the RX 7600 against the 4060 ti, DIRTY move.......... everybody knows AMD is better now.
@IAmGabriel116
@IAmGabriel116 Ай бұрын
I think you should eat your words
@yadavchirag
@yadavchirag Жыл бұрын
The new graphs for showing frame and performance is great visual representation
@imnotusingmyrealname4566
@imnotusingmyrealname4566 Жыл бұрын
I think halted technological progress hurts more on GPUs than CPUs. During the Intel quad core era graphics cards made great generational gains. Now just like before I don't really care that CPUs are so fast when graphics cards are just horrible value especially.
@Wiz3742
@Wiz3742 Жыл бұрын
Thumbnail is fire 🔥🔥
@boydolson5350
@boydolson5350 Жыл бұрын
Thumbnail does go crazy
@ad4ptfps
@ad4ptfps Жыл бұрын
Fr
@SoloManXLIM1998
@SoloManXLIM1998 Жыл бұрын
3:05 timeline should be RX 7600
@oskarschmelzer1998
@oskarschmelzer1998 Жыл бұрын
"for what it's worth ... both of them offer the same LACK OF bang for the buck" i died 😅 on point review as always!
@ComputerProfessor
@ComputerProfessor Жыл бұрын
Any card with 8gb of VRAM should be at most $150!
@cl_0ud470
@cl_0ud470 Жыл бұрын
I mean $200 is fine, but there should be options at $150
@omegaPhix
@omegaPhix Жыл бұрын
@HumanBeing 8gb of GDDR6 cost 20 bucks or less for NVIDIA/AMD
@levlevinski596
@levlevinski596 Жыл бұрын
​@HumanBeing msrp 270$ chip 32$ 8GB 24$ board 30$ airmail 30$ cooler 14$ = 130$ / DRAMeXchange 8GB=24$
@Binz0bang
@Binz0bang Жыл бұрын
Appreciate the critical review especially knowing how you usually try not to dunk on these GPU’s! Great info and conversation
@davism131
@davism131 Жыл бұрын
This is the only channel I don’t watch on 2x speed
@coin777
@coin777 Жыл бұрын
It's good at 1.5x
@professorclup1082
@professorclup1082 Жыл бұрын
Tik toks, reels and shorts have shortened your attention span
@cowboybenbop
@cowboybenbop Жыл бұрын
@@coin777 lol
@muneebhaider2286
@muneebhaider2286 Жыл бұрын
i just like listening to him talk about anything
@ppleberrynd
@ppleberrynd Жыл бұрын
@@professorclup1082 or he doesnt like wasting time
@kaduuuuu
@kaduuuuu Жыл бұрын
omg youtubers finally start to understand that 2 companies owning the whole market isn't competition and that they will always be price fixing (price leadership) good to see that
@Max333A
@Max333A Жыл бұрын
Duopoly at its best. 🤬
@teardowndan5364
@teardowndan5364 Жыл бұрын
The RX7600 and RTX4060(Ti) are the best arguments yet for telling people to consider the $200 Intel A750 driver gamble.
@Rosaslav
@Rosaslav Жыл бұрын
Nice summary, although I am missing comparison between AMD RX 6600 and RX 7600. Comparison between 4060Ti and 7600 is kind of weird, when they are differently priced products.
@dafaqu694
@dafaqu694 Жыл бұрын
I love him but why did he even review the rx 7600 with 1440p 😂, it's a 1080p card, okay the rx 6700 or A770 16gb are honestly much better, but still how tf he focuses rx 7600 to 1080p
@Doflaminguard
@Doflaminguard Жыл бұрын
​@@dafaqu694 its as he said, its 2023 and GPU market should be able to produce 1440p performance for low-mid end GPU.
@dafaqu694
@dafaqu694 Жыл бұрын
@@Doflaminguard why not tell that to the game developer?, stop making bad ports and bad optimisation You can basically run 7600 card on 1440p maybe not ultra, probably med to high for the older games, heck you could probably run 1440p with 7600 with games like DS3, Sekiro, prolly elden ring, doom eternal, apex, valorant Sure it can't run HW, jedi survivor, or TLOU but those are the bad ports/bad optimisation games, I'm sure it could run spidey 1440p high without RT
@MLWJ1993
@MLWJ1993 Жыл бұрын
​@@dafaqu694 Not too sure it actually can, it's got the same 128-bit memory bus the 4060Ti has & just 8gb of memory too. Higher resolutions require more bandwidth which is why both AMD & Nvidia market these as "1080P" GPU's.
@-opus
@-opus Жыл бұрын
2:22 'Welcome to the red team' written inside the box... no respect for anyone who buys into corporations being teams worthy of fans
@jebreggie4225
@jebreggie4225 Жыл бұрын
too bad so many pc enthusiasts dont agree.
@-opus
@-opus Жыл бұрын
​@@jebreggie4225 I just call them zombies, they are bad for the industry and it would be great if they were incapable of breeding.
@christianjensen9174
@christianjensen9174 Жыл бұрын
I just buy whoever benefits me the most. Simple as, haha. I have run into people that are still clinging on to brand loyalty in this space though.
@-opus
@-opus Жыл бұрын
@@christianjensen9174 Seems logical to assess products based on their specs
@christianjensen9174
@christianjensen9174 Жыл бұрын
@@-opus amen brother
@imnotusingmyrealname4566
@imnotusingmyrealname4566 Жыл бұрын
NVIDIA should let you automatically update drivers without having to give them your email.
@kurtco.397
@kurtco.397 Жыл бұрын
ten minute mail. burner email that destructs in ten minutes.
@oof56000
@oof56000 Жыл бұрын
@@kurtco.397 yeah true but still downright stupid that you have to get your email in the first place
@dstarr3
@dstarr3 Жыл бұрын
NVCleanstall
@tyrannus00
@tyrannus00 Жыл бұрын
There are ways to do it, and they aren't particularly complicated
@JBouBei
@JBouBei Жыл бұрын
So with my OC'ed 3060ti (2050-2070Mhz boost at 100% usage), I'm pretty much next gen already, nice. xD
@MS-vk9ph
@MS-vk9ph Жыл бұрын
Ur infographics are so nice to look at and so simple. why i consistently come back to this channel
@Subdubbin
@Subdubbin Жыл бұрын
You had the best video on this topic. Your graphs are easiest to read, and your explanations were easy to understand. You're really killing the game my guy.
@Abedeuss
@Abedeuss Жыл бұрын
Did prices change drastically over 3 months? I just bought 7600 for 1250 PLN, while the 4060 Ti is at least 1800-2000 PLN lol.
@kalibr22
@kalibr22 Жыл бұрын
here 4060ti is 400€ and 7600 is 285€ 😂
@OWNER132
@OWNER132 Жыл бұрын
I’m on of those people that would totally game at 1440p if I could afford it, but the current price of the hardware doesn’t justify it. The more cards I see announced for this generation, the more compelled I am to just wait for something more worth my hard earned money.
@prototype8137
@prototype8137 Жыл бұрын
Gpus have always been like this... just not this extreme before. But waiting... you will find yourself waiting a long time. I bought a 3080 2 years ago and even though from a market perspective its already dated but it really isnt. Im very happy with it and see me using it for a few more years.
@ArdaU
@ArdaU Жыл бұрын
@@prototype8137 i just bought rx 6800 xt used and even with cpu bottlenecks i am getting 4k 80-100 fps extreme settings at fh5
@ArcherBronzi
@ArcherBronzi Жыл бұрын
I don't understand why people are complaining that they can't play the latest aaa games at 1440p max settings and get atleast 60 fps on a sub $300 gpu, a good 1440p monitor almost costs that much and really you shouldn't be spending more on a monitor then your gpu costs, the 7600 is a very entry level 1080p card, and would be better compared to the 4060 than the 4060 ti as they price difference between the 4060ti and 7600 is almost $200.
@marcinmikoajczak6653
@marcinmikoajczak6653 Жыл бұрын
I believe that Nvidia has inentionally gimped the xx60 / xx60Ti series to boost sales of their higher-priced models. They probably realised that if the cards offered 3080 / 3080Ti performance (3060Ti is more or less on 2080 Super level), nobody would go for high-end models due to price and the fact that graphics hasn't advanced enough.
@alltmisc
@alltmisc Жыл бұрын
This is it man. They’re screwing us. And I’m refusing to upgrade even though my 970 has shit performance now. I just play older games and wait it out. Can’t beat the classics anyway.
@hanswurst-ej3qj
@hanswurst-ej3qj Жыл бұрын
both my monitors are 1080p. and i just upgraded from an 970 gtx to an 7600. so all this " cant do 1440p" doesnt bother me at all :D if u are like me, gradually upgrading ur stuff and stuck with old 1080p monitors for the foreseeable future..the 7600/4060 is alright.
@vmfighter-ryze
@vmfighter-ryze Жыл бұрын
Glad I was able to grab my 3080 on ebay. Going to ride it out for several years, handles everything I throw at it pretty easily
@jaggsta
@jaggsta Жыл бұрын
still better value currently see them for low $400. RX 6700 10GB new is $279 on newegg which is better than 7600 8GB at $269
@MoonOvIce
@MoonOvIce Жыл бұрын
I got one September last year for less than MSRP, it's a Zotac, but it runs great and has pretty good temps.
@ashwath23
@ashwath23 Жыл бұрын
My rx 570 can handle every game you name it 👑
@confusedturtle183
@confusedturtle183 Жыл бұрын
@@ashwath23 even that one game where you have your monkeys and then balloons come and then you have to put down moremunkey then upgrade them so they can kill the balloons even faster that they wwere doing so beforehand ?
@givemethesantahatfoo
@givemethesantahatfoo Жыл бұрын
Got one for MSRP when it came out and had it pay for itself (+ a CPU/mobo/ram upgrade), when I would sleep. 3080 still works fine and I'll be sucking the juice out of it till Nvidia and AMD get their shit together.
@guccigabbana.8284
@guccigabbana.8284 Жыл бұрын
Great video by the way i was just wondering, at 3:00 did you mean to put the 7600 ? or is it the 6700 ?
@PineyJustice
@PineyJustice Жыл бұрын
the 6600 and 6600xt were never 3060 and 3060 ti competitors, in price or specs, if you want to compare to the 4060ti you're going to be waiting for the 7700
@frozby5973
@frozby5973 Жыл бұрын
they were but they just werent good enough
@PineyJustice
@PineyJustice Жыл бұрын
@@frozby5973 No, they were never positioned or priced that way, just because it has a 6 in the name does not mean it's the 4060 competitor.
@dafaqu694
@dafaqu694 Жыл бұрын
Lmao yes, 6600 competitor was 3050, and 6600xt competitor was 3060
@sasagrcevic475
@sasagrcevic475 11 ай бұрын
@@dafaqu694 Man I bough 6600 and its amazing card. You can clock it 20% higher out of the box with a slider in amd software.
@farlandduck4463
@farlandduck4463 Жыл бұрын
they be like "everyone is still on 1080p!" brother, you are keeping them at 1080p
@callmekrautboy
@callmekrautboy Жыл бұрын
Best overview of the current releases so far, great job!
@caml1720
@caml1720 Жыл бұрын
Really good perspective here. Thanks for this video, I like the informed editorial voice
@boydolson5350
@boydolson5350 Жыл бұрын
Yeah the cards are disappointing and not much has changed. Cant say the same for your videos keep up the good work
@alawy-tech
@alawy-tech Жыл бұрын
THE ONLY CHANNEL I FEEL WOOOOOOOOW WITH EVERY NEW VIDEO RELEASED, I LOVE YOU MAN YOU ARE INSANE.
@andygrundman
@andygrundman Жыл бұрын
Appreciate the unique combo review, it really highlights Ali's independence. Why is the 4060 Ti box so huge?! Also, that smoke particle effect on the graphs... *chef's kiss*
@Noblishhh
@Noblishhh Жыл бұрын
Nice and clean, straight to the point, you talk how I think too, keep the good work !!
@happybuggy1582
@happybuggy1582 10 ай бұрын
They no longer make “sweet spot” gpus 😢😢
@theelichtje3
@theelichtje3 Жыл бұрын
I'm sorry, but i really don't agree with this review. The 7600 is cheaper than the 6600 when it released (6600 released at 329, 7600 is 269), and the 7600 beats it in every way, sometimes even beating out the 6600XT. Sure the launch was messy, but there's no denying that the card at the pricepoint is better then wat was released last year.
@lc9245
@lc9245 Жыл бұрын
Feels surreal to live through the reality that "Moore's law is dead" described years ago, probably during the RTX2000 era. I had forgotten the context, but he talked about how NVIDIA and AMD planned to shape the market in which only the flagships offer improvement in value vs performance, send midrange to history, turning that market into buying older gen or used high end cards just like how iPhone only occasionally release midrange options while hiking the top end device price every generation. The lower end card would share the same chips with the laptop. The 6500XT is the prime example. My theory is that perhaps they planned to streamline their product stack by binning productivity chips to produce high end series, which would then trickle down to gaming market. It could only work because it benefits both competitors, which it might do for both NVIDIA and AMD hence AMD following exactly the NVIDIA value curve.
@doltBmB
@doltBmB Жыл бұрын
Moore's law is NOT dead. Moore's law says that **transistor counts** will double roughly every 18 months, it does not say that performance will double. It has more or less held, in fact 40xx series has added more transistors than moore says this year with their obscenely huge dies. The problem is what did they spend those transistors on? AI, RT, compute, and not gaming graphics. Nearly HALF of the 4090's die is non-graphics related now.
@jalma9643
@jalma9643 Жыл бұрын
​@@doltBmB Talking about Moore Law, i am curious about if there is any physic that limit this law? Like after some year when technology advance to the point that you can't double the transistor because physic limitation. I just curious
@TrashpandaNVGs
@TrashpandaNVGs Жыл бұрын
@@jalma9643 well eventually you're just stacking atoms together, so theoretically I'd imagine there's a limit.
@ramiodeh8661
@ramiodeh8661 Жыл бұрын
At the comparison in 3:02 it's supposed to be the "RX 7600" on the right side
@heyitsmejm4792
@heyitsmejm4792 Жыл бұрын
Nvidia is shifting their product stack due to lack of new GTX alternative and wants the 60 class cards to be in the "entry level" category which is insane.
@Andytlp
@Andytlp Жыл бұрын
I agree brudda. Everything below 4070 is gimped too much but 4060ti isnt half bad if you can find it under msrp somehow. 4070 is nearly double the price but only 33% faster on avg. 4gb more vram is nice though. Still itll do just fine.
@guilhermecarvalho5297
@guilhermecarvalho5297 Жыл бұрын
At 2:56, the RX7600 column label is written incorrectly. Great video once again, though!
@ArnoldSmithFergusson
@ArnoldSmithFergusson Жыл бұрын
This is the best review about 4060Ti & Rx7600 in youtube! No sponsor message, content so solid & straight to point with easy to understand language. You don't need to spend 15-30 minutes to understand why both Nvidia & Amd give us bad product that barely can compete with their last gen. Great job Optimum tech!
@ca8740
@ca8740 Жыл бұрын
great rant at 7:10 - completely agree with your sentiments there Ali!
@astigmatic8978
@astigmatic8978 Жыл бұрын
Making the $300-350 RX 6700 XT series look even better
@chronosschiron
@chronosschiron Жыл бұрын
now think the 7600 is 270$
@tonnynguyen390
@tonnynguyen390 Жыл бұрын
@@chronosschiron 6700 non xt is also $270
@TheRealSkeletor
@TheRealSkeletor Жыл бұрын
The 6750 XT is really good value right now.
@vulcan4d
@vulcan4d Жыл бұрын
Consumers getting screwed. Everyone just stop buying GPUs for the next couple years. Your existing GPU is fine, you can hold out.
@VO1DLESS_
@VO1DLESS_ Жыл бұрын
Damn graphics card market is shambles. Im glad i have no money left over right now guess my gtx 1070 has to do it for some while still
@Friedrich713
@Friedrich713 Жыл бұрын
Hey Ali, great video once again! Was wondering: What tool do you use to make these nice graphs, e.g. at 4:33?
@pbjames
@pbjames Жыл бұрын
Just the reviewer I was waiting for!
@Lizard008
@Lizard008 Жыл бұрын
Is it possible that the graph shown at 3:00 has the wrong title? RX6700 should be RX7600, is that correct? Thanks for the content! :D
@bigbadslimee
@bigbadslimee Жыл бұрын
Its official optimum tech is the best tech channel on KZbin. His charts are clean and informative, there were points where I thought I was looking at official Nvidia charts. Also he's able to keep me engaged throughout the whole video, I didn't fast forward once, which I often have to do with gamers nexus cos he says so many things I just do not understand.
@TheRealSkeletor
@TheRealSkeletor Жыл бұрын
I feel like Paul's Hardware takes the cake on this one, but Optimum Tech is good also.
@thedreadedgman
@thedreadedgman Жыл бұрын
Although if you were looking at "official Nvidia charts" they would be misleading... and comparing unrelated things at different settings
@CrazyPhys
@CrazyPhys Жыл бұрын
Anyone noticed that sound of mouse click at 2:00 hahahaha. It makes me smile.
@Karairoo
@Karairoo Жыл бұрын
Me with my gtx 960 happy getting fps in minecraft
@TheGreatJafa
@TheGreatJafa Жыл бұрын
@Optimum Tech around the 3:08 mark I think you accidentally mislabeled the RX 7600 as the 6700.
@imnotusingmyrealname4566
@imnotusingmyrealname4566 Жыл бұрын
Many games fail to load proper textures and don't give you an error message. 8GB is not enough for this performance tier!
@browner1873
@browner1873 Жыл бұрын
Big ups to green and red releasing really good e-waste!
@a59x
@a59x Жыл бұрын
What's different in last very few years is people are far more attentive thanks to KZbin tech channels and neither nVidia nor AMD can get away with shit like that.
@mastervex5698
@mastervex5698 Жыл бұрын
GPU Companies: "We see gamers are stuck at 1080p". Which may or may not have to do with that our GPUs have been +50-500% higher in price. We've decide to keep you locked at 1080p, by making sure our low end gpus can only do 1080p. You are now "STUCK" at 1080p.
@pokepokepoke64
@pokepokepoke64 Жыл бұрын
This is why evga left. This bullshit and nvidia founders cards being uncompetitive
@moons6725
@moons6725 Жыл бұрын
In 3:06 it says rx 6700 instead of saying rx 7600
@WSS_the_OG
@WSS_the_OG Жыл бұрын
What more can be said? An honest and sober look at what "entry level" looks like in 2023. If you look at the design of these boards, VRM layout, parts count, simplicity of the boards, these new $280 or $400 cards have the kind of stripped down design (bus width etc) of sub $100 cards from just 10 years ago. That there's better value up at the halo product level says it all.
@dennissmith1435
@dennissmith1435 Жыл бұрын
I really like your graphs. They are much easier to read and see the points you're making.
@drew.k2385
@drew.k2385 Жыл бұрын
Why did AMD not release the 7800 or 7700? There's a huge gap between the $270 and $900 cards that they are offering....
@tj3495
@tj3495 Жыл бұрын
Because the 6000 series is currently price competitive with Nvidias new cards, which is hilarious. They will release them after they sell more of their last gen cards.
@RelayCan
@RelayCan Жыл бұрын
Shouldn't the table at 2:56 say "RX 7600" instead of "RX 6700"?
@rexko2215
@rexko2215 Жыл бұрын
I mean who buys 259$ Gpu just to play 1440p ultra? Where is the 1080p results?
@nameless.0190
@nameless.0190 Жыл бұрын
Its not that much better anyways, going by other reviews.
@ionamygdalon2263
@ionamygdalon2263 Жыл бұрын
Really enjoyed watching your video! Well done 👍
@Reknilador
@Reknilador Жыл бұрын
Nvidia releases bad gpus and AMD releases something worse? It's like somehow they know about each others lineup, I'm sure it has nothing to do that the same families own both companies..
@cl_0ud470
@cl_0ud470 Жыл бұрын
how is it worse? it's $130 cheaper and not much worse. I agree it should have been less than $250, but $270 isn't that bad when you compare it to $400 4060ti
@megadeth8592
@megadeth8592 Жыл бұрын
It's not great but it's definitely not worse lmao tf
@danijelkovacevic6024
@danijelkovacevic6024 Жыл бұрын
Can we make this video and this creator viral for speaking up! :) Awesome video man! Keep it up.
@jameslamb7197
@jameslamb7197 Жыл бұрын
I think we'd be kidding ourselves if we thought there wasn't SOME sort of behind closed doors conversations going on between AMD & Nvidia when it comes to GPU rollouts (whatever level that may be at).
@Ethan7_7
@Ethan7_7 8 ай бұрын
6:50 It is a 1080p intended card..
@nooptiui
@nooptiui 7 ай бұрын
it is 2024, stop living in the past and eating the excuses they’re feeding you
@Ethan7_7
@Ethan7_7 7 ай бұрын
@@nooptiui It is factualy true, idk what youre attacking me for
@drummer7557
@drummer7557 5 ай бұрын
If people want higher resolutions, they go for consoles. If they want higher FPS they go for PC's. Simple as that.
@nooptiui
@nooptiui 5 ай бұрын
@@drummer7557 plainly not true. current gen consoles can't even run 4k on 30 fps. let's not pretend like consoles are known for their rendering capabilities
@nooptiui
@nooptiui 5 ай бұрын
@@Ethan7_7 wdym "factual". it's 2024, why are companies even releasing 1080p cards?
@OblivionDust2719
@OblivionDust2719 Жыл бұрын
Come on Intel, do something...
@bilge677
@bilge677 Жыл бұрын
at 3:04 did you mean to put RX 7600 instead of the RX 6700 on the right?
@toastyraw
@toastyraw Жыл бұрын
Optimum
@peevan
@peevan Жыл бұрын
3:00 the table is wrong, it states "6700" instead of 7600.
@-opus
@-opus Жыл бұрын
I will be disappointed if AMD doesn't do something worthwhile around the 7800 mark, but at the lower end, how much can you really expect? I'm not sure why the 7600 is being compared to the 4060ti here either?
@vxnguyen2334
@vxnguyen2334 Жыл бұрын
better than this? like 3060Ti used to? he didn't compared to show about performance different of this 2 cards, they are both equally disappointing, if you can't see that, you must be very blind or stupid. stop making excuse for them, people like you are the reason those companies are getting shameless every years
@slickrounder6045
@slickrounder6045 Жыл бұрын
Slight mistake @3:00 , where it says "Rx 6700" it should have said "Rx 7600".
@rz1_1221
@rz1_1221 9 ай бұрын
It's actually hilarious that the 4060 Ti has the same memory bus width as a 1050 Ti
@virtualinsanity7791
@virtualinsanity7791 Жыл бұрын
there's a typo here at 3:00 it's supposed to be RX 7600 instead of RX 6700
@vaels5682
@vaels5682 Жыл бұрын
Rocking my 3080ti happily. Waiting for this new technology to be battle hardened before considering an upgrade
@jimmkekw
@jimmkekw Жыл бұрын
And the funniest thing is that frame gen can technically run on any rtx gpu, even the old 20 series
@KrazyShark
@KrazyShark Жыл бұрын
To think I was on the edge of my seat biting my nails buying the AMD 6750XT thinking the brand new long awaited 4060Ti would beat the shit out of it... Man am I glad I decided enough is enough and go for the 6750XT for 350$ 6 months ago.
@dafaqu694
@dafaqu694 Жыл бұрын
No brainer, 6750xt has more vram too
@KrazyShark
@KrazyShark Жыл бұрын
@@dafaqu694 Yeah 12GB is quite plenty already. They really skimping on VRAM 🙄
@Megneous
@Megneous Жыл бұрын
At 3:06, you listed the RX 7600 as "RX 6700." Really need to spend more time proofreading your videos, as that was an easily preventable mistake.
@StillerMarcel
@StillerMarcel Жыл бұрын
Just curious: are both GPUs compared w/o AI or upscaling at all and if not, how would they compare w/o?
@dougalachi
@dougalachi Жыл бұрын
3:07 you have the wrong gpu label on the right.
@kerskrt
@kerskrt Жыл бұрын
I know this has nothing to do with the video but Ali deadlifts 232kgs like its nothing. Absolute madman 😂
@version_4_v
@version_4_v Жыл бұрын
I love the audio FX in the beginning of the video, adds so much feeling to the content.
@muhammadsakib5963
@muhammadsakib5963 Жыл бұрын
It's true that they force users to game at 1080p.
@ninthfriend3347
@ninthfriend3347 Жыл бұрын
Just to show how great 3000 series are. I wouldn't even go for 4000 series unless you have the money for it. The price increase for all these cards are unjustifiable. I got my EVGA 3080 years ago back when Evga didnt succumb to the gpu inflation. Its still going strong today and its going to be good for two generations.
@prototype8137
@prototype8137 Жыл бұрын
I picked up an asus tuf 3080 oc couple years back and am definitely happy with it and dont see myself replacing it anytime soon.
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