Everyone Loses. - NVIDIA 4060 Ti vs. AMD RX 7600

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[@foureight84]

Next week, Nvidia will announce the RTX 4030ti targeting 720p gaming.

[@GewelReal]

finally! I'm ready to pay 200$ for it!

[@beri4138]

At 300 watts

[@fane2323]

@@beri4138 eh, at best these ada cards are much more power efficient though

[@shaoyangzhang8523]

nah! You are too optimistic about Nvidia. It should target 480p 70FPS on average with DLSS 3.0 and RTX on😄

[@_Gray_Fox]

😅 true!

[@perochialjoe]

This generation of cards really has been the "Wait for Intel to come save us" generation

[@DragonOfTheMortalKombat]

Best description of these GPUs.

[@PDXCustomPCS]

Tree years later...😆 jk

[@icky_thump]

The one thing AMD and NVIDIA fans can finally agree on lmao

[@NicksonYT]

Seeing the performance of the A750 at just 200 bucks, yeah

[@stevenwest1494]

Especially given AMD's crippling competition from AMD's last year's generation. Not sure why they even told us about FSR 3, when it's non existent, just the rx77/7800

[@Sam-fp1cd]

Ali is usually so chill in his videos, so seeing him dunk on these cards is hilarious for some reason 🤣

[@TheAlexmynameis]

It's some "I'm not mad, I'm just disappointed" Dad-Vibes.

[@astroboy8531]

Is his name ali ??

[@maximus3294]

​@@astroboy8531 indeed it is!

[@DownForwardPunchRepeat]

When Ali gives you that look you know you fuked up

[@_baniraaisu6711]

​@@TheAlexmynameis the most terrifying type of anger imo

[@MadBlazer89]

This video nails it!!! If Nvidia and AMD would actually provide capable GPUs at price points that people could afford, then we wouldn't have been stuck on 1080p for the last 15 years.

[@giratina_86]

but, do we really need more than 1080p? are we capable to tell the difference between 1080p -1440p and 4k?

[@butter6095]

@@giratina_86 on 24" monitor probably not very noticeable

[@Avi-tq6fd]

1440p at 27inch and 4k from 32 to 40inch.

[@maegnificant]

​@@giratina_86 ehm, yes very easily so in fact.

[@oscatMeow]

@@giratina_86maybe you should actually look at and compare in person before you say stuff like that. Yes, it is obvious.

[@gatsuberserk4227]

Really like this style of graphs. Really easy to understand and for more detailed info there are always awesome channels like Gamers Nexus and Hardware Unboxed. Love this format.

[@LIFEOFSTUFFEDANIMALS]

They are very clean looking too

[@zzerod]

best graphs in the game

[@fVNzO]

I'd say Hardware Unboxed still makes the most easy to understand graphs in the entire industry. I don't know why everyone doesn't just copy them outright it's really the most obvious way to showcase the data. It's not even in the same stratosphere as GN imo, that has some really bad graph UI (which is somewhat fine since they don't really care about that too much).

[@592Johno]

​@@fVNzO what 💀

[@fVNzO]

@@592Johno yes

[@circuitfever]

Straight to the point. Optimum Tech optimized reviews.

[@ioguapin]

YEP.

[@charanteja200]

It's 7600 right, but in the video you have mentioned it as 6700 while comparing specs with 6600

[@optimumtech]

Woops my bad. It's not even worth of being called a 6700 let's be honest.

[@sora6573]

@@optimumtech oh damnn

[@hydrohelic]

@@optimumtech ye im in the mixed bag for both companies (3050 gang)

[@nayan.punekar]

​@@optimumtechYou should compare it to the 6700.

[@tonnynguyen390]

@@nayan.punekar 6700 better while at the same price

[@FARBerserker]

Intel also dropped the price of the 750 with 8GB to 199$

[@fernandoferraz4146]

Wait for real???

[@superkhangfn8593]

Damn, it's funny that blue team is more budget friendly than AMD or Nvidia

[@saintgtx]

Too bad their drivers suck. I've heard people can't even load up Apex Legends.

[@superkhangfn8593]

@@saintgtx I thought they fixed their drivers tho?

[@fernandoferraz4146]

@@superkhangfn8593 They did... Mostly

[@Sleepyless]

Biggest problem that i don't see reviewers talking about is how if you keep upgrading your 60s/70s cards(that only gets you 10% upgrade every year) it will take you YEARS to get the same generational upgrade like 3090 -> 4090, maybe the 7060ti will be decent

[@proress]

4070ti gets the same performance as 3090ti

[@TheFalseShepphard]

@@proress Buddy I don't think it does 💀

[@maegnificant]

Almost like they want you to buy the more expensive cards:o

[@UserOfTheName]

@@TheFalseShepphard I think it matched the 3090 non ti

[@emperor719]

Deffirnece between 1060 -2060 and 3060 is quite big same goes for 1070-2070 and 3070 it's only on this gen that this is happening

[@vael_]

Not sure if the names of the cards referenced at 3:04 are accurate, I'm guessing it's supposed to be RX 6600 vs RX 7600?

[@sauravchhabra840]

yeah, I noticed that too

[@mech4byte]

its on purpose dude its the same card almost!

[@yadavchirag]

The new graphs for showing frame and performance is great visual representation

[@Jackson-bh1jw]

facing the RX 7600 against the 4060 ti, DIRTY move.......... everybody knows AMD is better now.

[@kaduuuuu]

omg youtubers finally start to understand that 2 companies owning the whole market isn't competition and that they will always be price fixing (price leadership) good to see that

[@Max333A]

Duopoly at its best. 🤬

[@davism131]

This is the only channel I don’t watch on 2x speed

[@coin777]

It's good at 1.5x

[@professorclup1082]

Tik toks, reels and shorts have shortened your attention span

[@cowboybenbop]

@@coin777 lol

[@muneebhaider2286]

i just like listening to him talk about anything

[@ppleberrynd]

@@professorclup1082 or he doesnt like wasting time

[@Rosaslav]

Nice summary, although I am missing comparison between AMD RX 6600 and RX 7600. Comparison between 4060Ti and 7600 is kind of weird, when they are differently priced products.

[@dafaqu694]

I love him but why did he even review the rx 7600 with 1440p 😂, it's a 1080p card, okay the rx 6700 or A770 16gb are honestly much better, but still how tf he focuses rx 7600 to 1080p

[@Doflaminguard]

​@@dafaqu694 its as he said, its 2023 and GPU market should be able to produce 1440p performance for low-mid end GPU.

[@dafaqu694]

@@Doflaminguard why not tell that to the game developer?, stop making bad ports and bad optimisation You can basically run 7600 card on 1440p maybe not ultra, probably med to high for the older games, heck you could probably run 1440p with 7600 with games like DS3, Sekiro, prolly elden ring, doom eternal, apex, valorant Sure it can't run HW, jedi survivor, or TLOU but those are the bad ports/bad optimisation games, I'm sure it could run spidey 1440p high without RT

[@MLWJ1993]

​@@dafaqu694 Not too sure it actually can, it's got the same 128-bit memory bus the 4060Ti has & just 8gb of memory too. Higher resolutions require more bandwidth which is why both AMD & Nvidia market these as "1080P" GPU's.

[@imnotusingmyrealname4566]

I think halted technological progress hurts more on GPUs than CPUs. During the Intel quad core era graphics cards made great generational gains. Now just like before I don't really care that CPUs are so fast when graphics cards are just horrible value especially.

[@teardowndan5364]

The RX7600 and RTX4060(Ti) are the best arguments yet for telling people to consider the $200 Intel A750 driver gamble.

[@Binz0bang]

Appreciate the critical review especially knowing how you usually try not to dunk on these GPU’s! Great info and conversation

[@Wiz3742]

Thumbnail is fire 🔥🔥

[@boydolson5350]

Thumbnail does go crazy

[@ad4ptfps]

Fr

[@vulcan4d]

Consumers getting screwed. Everyone just stop buying GPUs for the next couple years. Your existing GPU is fine, you can hold out.

[@JBouBei]

So with my OC'ed 3060ti (2050-2070Mhz boost at 100% usage), I'm pretty much next gen already, nice. xD

[@jimmkekw]

And the funniest thing is that frame gen can technically run on any rtx gpu, even the old 20 series

[@mastervex5698]

GPU Companies: "We see gamers are stuck at 1080p". Which may or may not have to do with that our GPUs have been +50-500% higher in price. We've decide to keep you locked at 1080p, by making sure our low end gpus can only do 1080p. You are now "STUCK" at 1080p.

[@Subdubbin]

You had the best video on this topic. Your graphs are easiest to read, and your explanations were easy to understand. You're really killing the game my guy.

[@OWNER132]

I’m on of those people that would totally game at 1440p if I could afford it, but the current price of the hardware doesn’t justify it. The more cards I see announced for this generation, the more compelled I am to just wait for something more worth my hard earned money.

[@prototype8137]

Gpus have always been like this... just not this extreme before. But waiting... you will find yourself waiting a long time. I bought a 3080 2 years ago and even though from a market perspective its already dated but it really isnt. Im very happy with it and see me using it for a few more years.

[@ArdaU]

@@prototype8137 i just bought rx 6800 xt used and even with cpu bottlenecks i am getting 4k 80-100 fps extreme settings at fh5

[@AbhishekPrakash94]

Just when we were getting comfortable to get good performance for lower prices NVIDIA and AMD pulled the plug on budget gaming. Bad days ahead for budget gamers.

[@Karairoo]

Me with my gtx 960 happy getting fps in minecraft

[@MS-vk9ph]

Ur infographics are so nice to look at and so simple. why i consistently come back to this channel

[@vmfighter-ryze]

Glad I was able to grab my 3080 on ebay. Going to ride it out for several years, handles everything I throw at it pretty easily

[@jaggsta]

still better value currently see them for low $400. RX 6700 10GB new is $279 on newegg which is better than 7600 8GB at $269

[@MoonOvIce]

I got one September last year for less than MSRP, it's a Zotac, but it runs great and has pretty good temps.

[@ashwath23]

My rx 570 can handle every game you name it 👑

[@confusedturtle183]

@@ashwath23 even that one game where you have your monkeys and then balloons come and then you have to put down moremunkey then upgrade them so they can kill the balloons even faster that they wwere doing so beforehand ?

[@givemethesantahatfoo]

Got one for MSRP when it came out and had it pay for itself (+ a CPU/mobo/ram upgrade), when I would sleep. 3080 still works fine and I'll be sucking the juice out of it till Nvidia and AMD get their shit together.

[@theerrantwanderer]

It's actually hilarious that the 4060 Ti has the same memory bus width as a 1050 Ti

[@PineyJustice]

the 6600 and 6600xt were never 3060 and 3060 ti competitors, in price or specs, if you want to compare to the 4060ti you're going to be waiting for the 7700

[@frozby5973]

they were but they just werent good enough

[@PineyJustice]

@@frozby5973 No, they were never positioned or priced that way, just because it has a 6 in the name does not mean it's the 4060 competitor.

[@dafaqu694]

Lmao yes, 6600 competitor was 3050, and 6600xt competitor was 3060

[@sasagrcevic475]

@@dafaqu694 Man I bough 6600 and its amazing card. You can clock it 20% higher out of the box with a slider in amd software.

[@farlandduck4463]

they be like "everyone is still on 1080p!" brother, you are keeping them at 1080p

[@theftking]

3:05 I think he meant 7600?

[@heyitsmejm4792]

Nvidia is shifting their product stack due to lack of new GTX alternative and wants the 60 class cards to be in the "entry level" category which is insane.

[@Andytlp]

I agree brudda. Everything below 4070 is gimped too much but 4060ti isnt half bad if you can find it under msrp somehow. 4070 is nearly double the price but only 33% faster on avg. 4gb more vram is nice though. Still itll do just fine.

[@user_bilal]

The 40 series GPUs do have a market, countries where electricity is expensive is where they shine. They are so power efficient, it's mind boggling.

[@ArnoldSmithFergusson]

This is the best review about 4060Ti & Rx7600 in youtube! No sponsor message, content so solid & straight to point with easy to understand language. You don't need to spend 15-30 minutes to understand why both Nvidia & Amd give us bad product that barely can compete with their last gen. Great job Optimum tech!

[@joebutreal]

Why are you putting the 7600 non-XT against the 4060-Ti?

[@imnotusingmyrealname4566]

Many games fail to load proper textures and don't give you an error message. 8GB is not enough for this performance tier!

[@lc9245]

Feels surreal to live through the reality that "Moore's law is dead" described years ago, probably during the RTX2000 era. I had forgotten the context, but he talked about how NVIDIA and AMD planned to shape the market in which only the flagships offer improvement in value vs performance, send midrange to history, turning that market into buying older gen or used high end cards just like how iPhone only occasionally release midrange options while hiking the top end device price every generation. The lower end card would share the same chips with the laptop. The 6500XT is the prime example. My theory is that perhaps they planned to streamline their product stack by binning productivity chips to produce high end series, which would then trickle down to gaming market. It could only work because it benefits both competitors, which it might do for both NVIDIA and AMD hence AMD following exactly the NVIDIA value curve.

[@doltBmB]

Moore's law is NOT dead. Moore's law says that **transistor counts** will double roughly every 18 months, it does not say that performance will double. It has more or less held, in fact 40xx series has added more transistors than moore says this year with their obscenely huge dies. The problem is what did they spend those transistors on? AI, RT, compute, and not gaming graphics. Nearly HALF of the 4090's die is non-graphics related now.

[@jalma9643]

​@@doltBmB Talking about Moore Law, i am curious about if there is any physic that limit this law? Like after some year when technology advance to the point that you can't double the transistor because physic limitation. I just curious

[@justinwalters5017]

@@jalma9643 well eventually you're just stacking atoms together, so theoretically I'd imagine there's a limit.

[@JynxedKoma]

*NVIDIA just unveiled their new RTX 4069 Ti targeting ultra 240p gaming.*

[@VO1DLESS_]

Damn graphics card market is shambles. Im glad i have no money left over right now guess my gtx 1070 has to do it for some while still

[@boydolson5350]

Yeah the cards are disappointing and not much has changed. Cant say the same for your videos keep up the good work

[@hanswurst-ej3qj]

both my monitors are 1080p. and i just upgraded from an 970 gtx to an 7600. so all this " cant do 1440p" doesnt bother me at all :D if u are like me, gradually upgrading ur stuff and stuck with old 1080p monitors for the foreseeable future..the 7600/4060 is alright.

[@ArcherBronzi]

I don't understand why people are complaining that they can't play the latest aaa games at 1440p max settings and get atleast 60 fps on a sub $300 gpu, a good 1440p monitor almost costs that much and really you shouldn't be spending more on a monitor then your gpu costs, the 7600 is a very entry level 1080p card, and would be better compared to the 4060 than the 4060 ti as they price difference between the 4060ti and 7600 is almost $200.

[@vaels5682]

Rocking my 3080ti happily. Waiting for this new technology to be battle hardened before considering an upgrade

[@Noblishhh]

Nice and clean, straight to the point, you talk how I think too, keep the good work !!

[@alawy-tech]

THE ONLY CHANNEL I FEEL WOOOOOOOOW WITH EVERY NEW VIDEO RELEASED, I LOVE YOU MAN YOU ARE INSANE.

[@Kakaroti]

It is evident that neither AMD or nVidia are insterested in giving customers what they want.

[@a59x]

What's different in last very few years is people are far more attentive thanks to KZbin tech channels and neither nVidia nor AMD can get away with shit like that.

[@obliviondust2719]

Come on Intel, do something...

[@KrazyShark]

To think I was on the edge of my seat biting my nails buying the AMD 6750XT thinking the brand new long awaited 4060Ti would beat the shit out of it... Man am I glad I decided enough is enough and go for the 6750XT for 350$ 6 months ago.

[@dafaqu694]

No brainer, 6750xt has more vram too

[@KrazyShark]

@@dafaqu694 Yeah 12GB is quite plenty already. They really skimping on VRAM 🙄

[@bigbadslimee]

Its official optimum tech is the best tech channel on KZbin. His charts are clean and informative, there were points where I thought I was looking at official Nvidia charts. Also he's able to keep me engaged throughout the whole video, I didn't fast forward once, which I often have to do with gamers nexus cos he says so many things I just do not understand.

[@TheRealSkeletor]

I feel like Paul's Hardware takes the cake on this one, but Optimum Tech is good also.

[@thedreadedgman]

Although if you were looking at "official Nvidia charts" they would be misleading... and comparing unrelated things at different settings

[@CrazyPhys]

Anyone noticed that sound of mouse click at 2:00 hahahaha. It makes me smile.

[@danijelkovacevic6024]

Can we make this video and this creator viral for speaking up! :) Awesome video man! Keep it up.

[@drew.k2385]

Why did AMD not release the 7800 or 7700? There's a huge gap between the $270 and $900 cards that they are offering....

[@tj3495]

Because the 6000 series is currently price competitive with Nvidias new cards, which is hilarious. They will release them after they sell more of their last gen cards.

[@andrewsteffani3890]

Remember though that the reason why the L1 cache on the 4060TI has half the bus than the 3060TI is because the L2 cache has 8 times more power than the 3060TI.

[@jameslamb7197]

I think we'd be kidding ourselves if we thought there wasn't SOME sort of behind closed doors conversations going on between AMD & Nvidia when it comes to GPU rollouts (whatever level that may be at).

[@matias6402]

I’m sorry, but not recommending 16GB is just wrong. Increasing VRAM increases memory bus and bandwith. VRAM performance is extremely critical this gen. Previous gen 3060 with 8GB struggles so much with basic games, the lows are very low and the games stutter. I hope you understand for future reference and research this further. We want headroom and no stuttering when gaming ❤️

[@Breakfast_of_Champions]

These cards are only an option for new low-end systems, or upgrades for 5+ years old low end systems.

[@hyper8545]

Them older 6000 XT cards lookin real goog today

[@-opus]

I will be disappointed if AMD doesn't do something worthwhile around the 7800 mark, but at the lower end, how much can you really expect? I'm not sure why the 7600 is being compared to the 4060ti here either?

[@vxnguyen2334]

better than this? like 3060Ti used to? he didn't compared to show about performance different of this 2 cards, they are both equally disappointing, if you can't see that, you must be very blind or stupid. stop making excuse for them, people like you are the reason those companies are getting shameless every years

[@atomiccelery6798]

7:04 had to play that twice, music to my ears

[@Dad_K]

Oops, put 6700 instead of 7600. Audio over makes it make sense luckily

[@rennaaa6667]

It's sad when last gen used GPUs are both a better product and cheaper.

[@RockTouching]

5:00 Imagine in 1 to 2 years how many games will throw low memory errors

[@Martial-Mat]

It's not cheaper in real terms if the performance has not improved.

[@ionamygdalon2263]

Really enjoyed watching your video! Well done 👍

[@EriX88888]

we need more people like you who exposes these scummy companies, nerfing the gpus in 2023 especially until that level of performance is baffling

[@darwinLee81283]

You can Never Trust Any Company that is Publically Traded . It's Not About Products or Customers. It's Always about Margins and Shareprices

[@beastypl]

When he posts I watch. No questioning. Just watch!

[@minibotpc]

Just another round of 2008 nvidia and amd price fixing.

[@thefreecase]

Wow, you have really big hands. I did not realize this during other GPU reviews😂

[@frelj5604]

in the specs list in 3:00 the RX 7600 is named RX 6700 by accident

[@aniket33591]

The problem is, even the higher end GPUs aren't bang for the buck, the 4070 ti makes no sense at $800 with only 12gb vram and the 4080 costs twice the 4070

[@Alauz]

They just gave the biggest middle finger to the entire gaming community and simply don't care anymore.

[@guilhermecarvalho5297]

At 2:56, the RX7600 column label is written incorrectly. Great video once again, though!

[@gejamugamlatsoomanam7716]

Good thing about 4060ti, the 3rd party Palit Model uses 8pin power not the 16pin adapter

[@AlexLee-je5jg]

Performance per watt is the only real generational upgrade so far..

[@virtualinsanity7791]

there's a typo here at 3:00 it's supposed to be RX 7600 instead of RX 6700

[@MrBuusen]

i LOVE the frames per second comparison :P

[@Hateroz]

2:57 The RX 7600 is mentioned as RX 6700 🤠

[@dougalachi]

3:07 you have the wrong gpu label on the right.

[@nviews1522]

amazing video and channel. keep the good work

[@SteelGrayRider]

Well summarized video that reflects this terrible Generation.

[@Abedeuss]

Did prices change drastically over 3 months? I just bought 7600 for 1250 PLN, while the 4060 Ti is at least 1800-2000 PLN lol.

[@kalibr22]

here 4060ti is 400€ and 7600 is 285€ 😂

[@imnotusingmyrealname4566]

Comparing the 4060 Ti 16GB to the 4070 actually makes the 4070 look kinda good. Wow

[@quirkelchomp]

That's the plan by Nvidia. It's how they fool ya into spending more.

[@imnotusingmyrealname4566]

@@quirkelchomp It's not really fooling. Everything is just awful except the flagship tier.

[@TheGreatJafa]

@Optimum Tech around the 3:08 mark I think you accidentally mislabeled the RX 7600 as the 6700.

[@Spoonuk666]

2070 Super probably walks all over these cards and that's a sub £200 card these days..

[@AmirEpix]

You should actually compare the xt version of rx 7600 with the rtx 4060 ti

[@fahianhaque4413]

Finally the chosen channel(Since everyone don't only play online games and everyone doesn't want to be the next gaming star)

[@ninthfriend3347]

Just to show how great 3000 series are. I wouldn't even go for 4000 series unless you have the money for it. The price increase for all these cards are unjustifiable. I got my EVGA 3080 years ago back when Evga didnt succumb to the gpu inflation. Its still going strong today and its going to be good for two generations.

[@prototype8137]

I picked up an asus tuf 3080 oc couple years back and am definitely happy with it and dont see myself replacing it anytime soon.

[@eternaldarkness3139]

This whole generation is gonna be throw away. If these cards are all going to be basically equal to their predecessors, you're functionally buying cards with shortened lifespans.

[@xpodx]

Or used 1080 ti 11gb for around $225

[@Uschovna]

400$ for RTX 4060 Ti ... In my country it starts at 470$ and we have like 5x times lower salary 😞

[@snowyfrog7727]

hey i think there’s a typo at the comparison graph, you seemed to wrote 6700 where it’s supposed to be 7600

[@kaiosplayer1984]

IMPORTANT!!!! you probably misspelled the 7600 with 6700 at minute 3:00

[@Nothing-yq2gz]

Didn't AMD just cut the price for RX7600?

[@pf100andahalf]

Look at the bright side. I don't know what the bright side is, but when I figure it out I'll get back with you.

[@Friedrich713]

Hey Ali, great video once again! Was wondering: What tool do you use to make these nice graphs, e.g. at 4:33?

[@kuma-bw1we]

The more you buy the more you save. This is always true most of the time. GPU will be this way as well.