The fact that he did 1700 benchmark runs in the first place proves he lost his sanity quite a while ago. But well that's good for the rest of us I suppose.
@dunuhn3 жыл бұрын
I had to back it up and replay that to make sure I heard it right lol
@wobblysauce3 жыл бұрын
It is a rounding error when you do it long enough.
@MyrKnof3 жыл бұрын
"Aliens" guy meme: Automation
@kimnorberg97833 жыл бұрын
A clear, useful and systematic review.
@Mikka03 жыл бұрын
Agree. This video is much appreciated.
@peki1003 жыл бұрын
More like a waste of time, looking at the results. :S
@Hardwareunboxed3 жыл бұрын
@@peki100 Doctor: "Mr. DarwiN good news, you don’t have cancer." DarwiN: "Well shit those tests were a waste of time then :S"
@MommyGanyu3 жыл бұрын
@@Hardwareunboxed Did you just roast him LMFAO
@peki1003 жыл бұрын
@@Hardwareunboxed Extremely bad analogy.
@josuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuu17803 жыл бұрын
Steve is probably the only guy who likes his mondays
@RuaninhoBR3 жыл бұрын
probaly this video was recorded on saturday
@Grrblt3 жыл бұрын
It's already Wednesday over there in Australia
@michaelgooley2293 жыл бұрын
@@KZbinTookMyNickname.WhyNot I did 😎
@putinstea3 жыл бұрын
If you dont like mondays, you should try enjoying your job, or get one that you enjoy.
@d2ricci3 жыл бұрын
When a two-week work period ends on a Monday, you would as well
@emulation23693 жыл бұрын
Vaas:"did I ever tell you the definition of insanity?" Steve:"NO! Go away!I have 1700 benchmarks to do!"
@abhinandanmanna493 жыл бұрын
Far cry 3 vibes
@GewelReal2 жыл бұрын
It's not insanity if it's useful
@OppositeToUp3 жыл бұрын
Although I didn't need this personally, I watched regardless bdcause I appreciate the huge amount of effort and time a video like this takes. And it's interesting to see anyway.
@Hardwareunboxed3 жыл бұрын
Thank you we appreciate that!
@TerraWare3 жыл бұрын
@@Hardwareunboxed Thanks for the hard work and it's videos like this that define Hardware Unboxed for me. Having upgraded to the 6800 XT back in December I'm going to stick with my 3700X. Even though it's not on the list it's a bit slower than the 5600x and for me it's not worth spending hundreds of dollars more for a CPU and an upgrade to an x570 or B550 from the msi B450 Gaming Pro Carbon AC I currently own.
@sorinsuba3 жыл бұрын
@@Hardwareunboxed Great video! What camera do you use?
@edward37093 жыл бұрын
@@TerraWare definitely not, you made a wise choice. As future games start using 8 cores, the 5600X may be outdated earlier than the 3700X
@TerraWare2 жыл бұрын
@@ok-70707 My comment was 11 months old before you could do that. I ended up upgrading to the B550 5900X about 6 months ago though lol. I used my B450/3700X and an RX 580 I had to build a pc for my little brother.
@Granatenei3 жыл бұрын
I have been looking forward to this video. This must have been quite time consuming. Thanks for that HUB!
@karlhungus5453 жыл бұрын
These are the most useful CPU-related videos on the internet. I still go back to your 2600/3600 scaling review from a while back from time to time, usually when somebody is arguing that you 'need' an expensive CPU for gaming 😉. These always clearly show just how much money some gamers waste on CPUs.
@StefanEtienneTheVerrgeRep3 жыл бұрын
The new editorial direction is just beautiful.
@PSYCHOV3N0M3 жыл бұрын
Unlike YOUR PC building skills. 😂😂😂 (Yes, I know you're a parody account.)
@martymcfly88mph353 жыл бұрын
I didnt see any RTX benchmarks... the complete madlads cant keep getting away with it
@morpheus_93 жыл бұрын
Lmaooo
@doccdisrepecc73073 жыл бұрын
Underrated comment. *golf clap ensues*
@TheKiwiCoder3 жыл бұрын
This is an insane amount of configurations to test. Thank you for your time!
@hermanlau44313 жыл бұрын
Looking forward to the comparison between all the different generations of Zen.
@G254-x8g3 жыл бұрын
Curious to see also the difference between zen 3 and fx series xD
@raresmacovei83823 жыл бұрын
FX 6350 / 1600X / 3600 XT / 5600X
@saricubra28673 жыл бұрын
@@G254-x8g It's like a destruction bigger than Sandy Bridge or Haswell vs FX.
@felipemotorhead3 жыл бұрын
Dude, I'm speechless, please never stop and PLEASE stay safe, a whole community needs you!
@It-b-Blair3 жыл бұрын
This needs 1mil views for such an epic feat! Efing amazing m8
@iBoolGuy3 жыл бұрын
The pinnacle of KZbin tech right atcha fingertips ladies and lads! Thank you sir Steve so much for ya hard work, we all appreciate it! 🥰🤗 Lemme now get my appetizers and get to watching!
@quentinrusso84133 жыл бұрын
I would love to see how some older 4cores 4 threads aged with this kind of review. It's in my opinion, the best way to know "when to upgrade" and "what to"
@DerMoos3 жыл бұрын
Yup! Or at least 1-2 CPUs from Ryzen 3000 series for people contemplating if they are still fine if they would buy for example a 3600 now
@Cozi0103 жыл бұрын
Yeah currently running a 6600k @ 4.9 lol. Assume im at the point if I upgrade GPU to current gen or last gen I will be bottlenecked
@FzNd3 жыл бұрын
Agreed. I'm using a 5 year old system with an i7 6700 and so far it feels like the CPU is doing just fine, even in relatively recent games. My problem is my ye olde 970, but the CPU appears to be still holding up quite well. However, I have of course no data to back this up, so it would be interesting to see some testing indeed.
@karlhungus5453 жыл бұрын
@@DerMoos HW Unboxed already did a scaling video on this comparing the 3600 to the 5600x (which I have). TL;DR, the 5600x gives you zero benefit over the 3600 at 1440p and higher.
@wizardryyyy3 жыл бұрын
@@Cozi010 my 6600k at 4.5 is bottlenecking my 2060S a fair bit.
@ani0.biswas3 жыл бұрын
I think you've earned yourself a fishing holiday.
@Hardwareunboxed3 жыл бұрын
I'll let my wife know, cheers 👍
@william_SMMA3 жыл бұрын
I'm going back to watch this on the regular youtube app just so I can watch the ads and support this channel
@ani0.biswas3 жыл бұрын
@@william_SMMA that depends whether they get the revenue or its just google snatching it. the terms and conditions are shady to be least.
@william_SMMA3 жыл бұрын
@@ani0.biswas nah They get the revenue About 50% goes to google and the rest to the channel No one is stealing your money on this platform
@Mediamatix3 жыл бұрын
This "boring test" had me subscribe. This are the infos I like to see. :)
@Sinr0ne3 жыл бұрын
1700 ? Cant possibly imagine the feeling after being ready with all that...
@tatonoot19503 жыл бұрын
The perfectly aligned numbers of the Cyberpunk benchmark feels, unreal
@andersjjensen3 жыл бұрын
That just spells "Puny little 3090 can't even graphics!"
@soumyajitdeb39433 жыл бұрын
Would love these scaling graphs with the 6800 series cards too.
@davepianist843 жыл бұрын
I think the results would be pretty much the same
@aidrik98793 жыл бұрын
yea but the 3090 and 3070 are pretty much equals to the 6900xt and 6800, so i don’t think another 500 some runs are needed for virtually the same results in exchange for steve’s sanity
@Hardwareunboxed3 жыл бұрын
While it would be nice to add the 6800 series, it probably wouldn't add much value to the testing.
@gamingunboxed51303 жыл бұрын
@@tobyjoe8045 IQ not strong with this one.
@gamingunboxed51303 жыл бұрын
@@tobyjoe8045 Well you failed, maybe be a little more realistic with your goals next time, might I suggest the Banana slug ;)
@OviWanKeno9i3 жыл бұрын
I loved seeing that my 2700x is still doing well for gaming. I did love the extra cores and once I water cooled it, with 6 push pull fans, it boosts so much higher.. 4.2 easy, shows 4.8 GHz on some cores for a moment when it needs it (mostly in games with mods)
@tomasnovotny54382 жыл бұрын
Sure, 4.8 GHZ on Zen+ xdd
@crylune2 жыл бұрын
lmao doubt you're getting 4.8
@clarencewong92543 жыл бұрын
The amount of work put in must have been back breaking. Thanks man.
@johnwynne4135 ай бұрын
This was absolutely useful information and I commend you for taking the time to do this. More people should do extensive multi dimensional comparison tests like this between more products like this
@PwopYT38113 жыл бұрын
5:30 Me (5600x owner): So that's why I suck at this game. I don't have 519FPS, just 518FPS. Time for new CPU!
@kevinamery59223 жыл бұрын
518 fps = slideshow...
@EliteMonkeyzz3 жыл бұрын
@@kevinamery5922 😂 lmaooo
@jerome63833 жыл бұрын
And it would only costs you an additional $519 I guess :)
@jerome63833 жыл бұрын
@ADITYADIVINE As far as his 5600x is not broken: I think this is either caused by another hardware bottleneck (like ram, motherboard, power supply) or by overloading his cpu. 6 fast cores should be plenty for modern games - when only playing games. If you were doing something else while playing, like streaming, updating, etc. It would lower the framerate for a few games. If you have to buy a new motherboard anyway, a 10700k (or 10700) is the better choice - I believe. About the same price or cheaper. About the same gaming performance and better in multitasking.
@kevinamery59223 жыл бұрын
@ADITYADIVINE Uh, did you watch the video? Because it answers exactly that question...
@gregvanpaassen3 жыл бұрын
Awesome, Steve! You're the only person to do benchmarking systematically. I look forward to the forthcoming testing and comparisons.
@Zunidrap3 жыл бұрын
Amazing work, thanks. Glad I made the right choice getting the 5600x over the 5900x.
@beanos22873 жыл бұрын
Yah, not worth hundreds of dollars more, and if you need a good cpu for say a job, then at that point you might as well purchase a 5950x
@pokoyoko44863 жыл бұрын
Yeah. I guess I'll get 5600x
@amunderdog3 жыл бұрын
I made the same choice. Waiting for it to arrive and hunting a 3090 to attach. Thank you Steve and Hardware Unboxed for clarifying this decision.
@Zunidrap3 жыл бұрын
No brainer, I guess. You save on the cpu, energy bill and cooling requirements for the same gaming performance.
@Luis-jm2cc3 жыл бұрын
@@Zunidrap at best u would need the 5800x anyway unless ur doing other things than gaming tbh but with a 5600x u can always turn down settings that arent that relevant if u need to anyway like grass or something. It would just be better to use that extra money on getting better ram or cooling a gpu etc.
@meersffej12 жыл бұрын
Thanks!
@Hardwareunboxed2 жыл бұрын
Thank you! Much appreciate mate.
@Narfu13 жыл бұрын
Building a *Ryzen 5 5600x & RTX 3070* build later this year. Looks like my decision hasn't changed, and I'm very excited to build it! Thanks for doing this, and for staying sane with 1700 benchmark runs... how do you do it.
@dexyydev7 ай бұрын
same but with 7900 gre
@dexyydev7 ай бұрын
still kinda relevant after 3yrs lmaoo
@Narfu17 ай бұрын
@@dexyydev the pc has been amazing lol, deffo worth it 😂
@AshStorm093 жыл бұрын
This was amazingly informative. Thank you so much.
@L0rd_0f_War3 жыл бұрын
Scaling benchmarks are the most useful and practical way of viewing the data. Thank you Steve for amazing work.
@teh_blazerer3 жыл бұрын
Competitive titles at 1080p Low Settings is EXACTLY what I've been looking for! Thank you so much!!
@Itz_JayM3 жыл бұрын
Good to see this kind of comparison. I don’t do any work load on my pc so this helps me save some money on my new build seeing there isn’t much of a gaming performance difference. I’ll just get a 5600x to pair with my 3080 instead of the 5800x.
@botherednickel59303 жыл бұрын
The biggest thing I took from this video is how amazing Internal Clock Rate has been raised in a few years where a $300 cpu will get almost identical fps as a $800 cpu. Budget gaming is going to be amazing when the supply issues get figured out!
@inspirer47632 жыл бұрын
Ehh, $300 is not a budget option. Or at least it wasn't say 10 years ago. We're paying for that smaller gap.
@HeadphoneHangover3 жыл бұрын
This is amazing, it must have really taken a long time to do all this, we really appreciate the work put into this video. Great work.
@DannyzReviews3 жыл бұрын
As always thanks for the informative testing Steve. Looking forward to other data from more CPUs.
@RedBellySnake3 жыл бұрын
Excellent video, very happy with my 5800x and 3070.
@BT42823 жыл бұрын
This is a really good set of data. However if I was to make one observation it would be that adding some strategy games which have high CPU requirements would be useful. CIV 6, Total War 3 Kingdoms, and possibly Stellaris would be good additions, both to measure FPS but also turn times/game slowdown in large scenarios or late game periods. Stellaris especially can be set up via console commands to simulate a late game scenario with thousands of fleets and pops which can really hammer the CPU. At which point you can set it to observer and leave it for a set period of time to see how many in-game years pass and from that judge the performance. Not as controlled as a standardised benchmark, but running it a few times would provide decent data points.
@harrylesueur3 жыл бұрын
love this content, it is by far the most applicable set of benchmarks for anyone building a new pc. Is adding a r5 3600 and r3 3300x to the graphs in your crystal ball?
@karlhungus5453 жыл бұрын
He did it already, comparing the 3600 to the 5600x. Check the videos.
@harrylesueur3 жыл бұрын
@@karlhungus545 tbh, I actually forgot about that one, but it was only with an rx 6800. The 3300x is what I'm really interested in though.
@andersjjensen3 жыл бұрын
@@harrylesueur The 3300X will "do fine" in general, but it will get a bit hampered with titles like Assassins Creed and Hitman. But again, the higher resolution you target, the less the CPU matters. You can safely substitute the RX6800 for the 3070 in your mind. They're close enough in performance that their relative CPU scaling is the same.
@alavizaman89173 жыл бұрын
i've been waiting for this! excited to see the same comparison with their previous gen counterparts
@arjunyg46553 жыл бұрын
I’VE BEEN LOOKING FOR THIS FOR YEARS!
@andersjjensen3 жыл бұрын
CPU vs GPU scaling videos is the most important metric, and has been for quite some time, as it is THE most confusing part to a lot of gamers. They see the CPU benchmarks and think that a 10900k will make their 2070 Super 15% faster across the board :-/
@arjunyg46553 жыл бұрын
Yep. I really would liked to have seen the 3080 and 6800XT on here, vs the 5600/5700XTs which pretty much were always GPU bound above 1080 low. I’m trying to put together a 1440 or 4k setup, but no one tests high end GPUs with cheaper CPUs at good graphics settings, so it’s hard to judge. This series is a huge step in the right direction.
@andersjjensen3 жыл бұрын
@@arjunyg4655 But the 3090 covers them both well enough. The difference between the 3090 and 3080 are only about 11% on average, so that won't change scaling much.The 6800XT is as fast as the 3090 at 1080p, about on par with the 3080 at 1440p and only a few percent slower at 4K, so again, the 3090 is perfectly fine as a comparison point for scaling. As you saw, graphics heavy games become almost entirely GPU bound at 1440p across the board. E-sports titles start seeing GPU bottlenecks at 1440p for the lover end GPU, but for any of the 3070 and up you're still pegging the CPU. At 4K it's mostly game over for anyone and you need a bigger CPU no matter what you have :P
@arjunyg46553 жыл бұрын
@@andersjjensen I think you got that backwards. 4K is where you *don’t* need a more expensive CPU. Also no the 3080/6800XT doesn’t really match the 3090 in most games. And since the 3090 is the only one that scaled with better CPUs in a lot of the tests, it’s not sufficient to say “well the 3080 is close enough.” The 3080 could well behave like a 3070 where I could probably put a last gen CPU in with it and get max performance out of it. The 3080 might scale with a 5600X and a 5800X but not with a 5900/5950X, etc.
@un1c0rn233 жыл бұрын
awesome, these benchmarks from the beginning give me great confidence in my 7700k :) thanks a lot for including older CPUs in there
@KillScottKill3 жыл бұрын
Looking forward to more testing with Zen 2 comparisons. The 3000 series is still super relevant due to how many of us bought in already and people turning to the 3000 chips because 5000 stock has been so bad for months.
@lord.frosty3 жыл бұрын
Great job! Can't wait for the next parts of the GPU Scaling series!
@lefteris193 жыл бұрын
outstanding work Steve! you're the best and most dedicated tech youtuber
@stancex4042 жыл бұрын
This is so helpful. I hope you continue this series for future releases as well.
@DJSammy69.3 жыл бұрын
Zen 3 is just amazing!!
@lefourbe55963 жыл бұрын
big * !!! 170€ for the I5 10400F (6c12t) vs 380€ for the 5600X (6c12t) in France... I don't know the price anywhere else but we should step back a bit and reconsider after the hype of the best gaming processor. this make only a difference at 1080p by 10%. 3% at 1440p as stated 1 month earlier by Hardware Unboxed. as of now i don't find these prices fair. Yeah there is more PCIe (and support gen 4) lanes, it's capable of OC and can enable ECC memory. but don't forget intel have thunderbolt and optane (AMD storeMI isn't as good) ! Zen is amazing thx to MCM sure but for 4 to 8 cores it's not great sadly :/. Intel is way more attractive.
@damajinvegeta3 жыл бұрын
Great detail. Excited for the other comparisons
@pumpe193 жыл бұрын
Clean, fact based, comprehensive, useful af! Many thanks.
@andersjjensen3 жыл бұрын
Yup. That is Hardware Unboxed for you. All of the above + the all important thing called Context! I don't know how many I've seen argue over which CPU+GPU combination to get... and they always end up over-spending on the CPU... To the point that they could've gone an entire class of GPU bigger on the same budget.
@forgot462 жыл бұрын
My go to youtube channel for gaming benchmark of cpu and gpu. Very good video and helpful. Hail hardware unboxed.👍
@melvoid013 жыл бұрын
So should I buy a Ryzen CPU : "Yes, Yes you should" Which one do you recommend? : "Yes"
@djmehighlow3 жыл бұрын
Great video Steve, thank you for putting this together.
@davidkjellsson90812 жыл бұрын
Really appreciate all the hard work you do, I learn a lot about tech stuff thanks to you!
@hasanhas00n13 жыл бұрын
thanks for creating such a massive benchmark test database
@Speak_Out_and_Remove_All_Doubt3 жыл бұрын
This is a really interesting and hugely important comparison video for gamers looking to build or update their system to know how their budget should be distributed. Thank you for all your hard work once again Steve!
@justincowans2677 Жыл бұрын
These are the videos I love. Gives you all the info you need. Thanks for including the 1440 and 4k info.
@BeyondEllisBeck3 жыл бұрын
Amazing job as always.
@myramoki3 жыл бұрын
Excellent comparison of the different models in gaming. Far more useful than simple CPU vs CPU comparison charts. Really helps to prioritize where to spend money if gaming is thing your after (which I am). Also really love the bookmarks throughout the video, was able to jump to specific segments so easily. Very much helped me think things through better about what to do for future machine planning on getting.
@Pandaoniman3 жыл бұрын
Thank you for making such a comprehensive video. If I do choose to upgrade in the next year, I'll probably only bother with a 5600x. It would seem that it could be a significant improvement over my 3600.
@JIMN262 жыл бұрын
Nope, 3600 has the same number of cores, threads, and cache as he 5600x. Very little improvement there.
@ayovenom9906 Жыл бұрын
@@JIMN26you are insane. It’s a way better cpu
@zx14jeff3 жыл бұрын
This is very informative! I do a lot of builds for my clients! Thanks for the hard work.
@BWpepperr3 жыл бұрын
Comment for the Yootubes algorithm! Great work, Steve. Thanks for all the time and effort
@ryanw.98283 жыл бұрын
Thanks for all the hard work - kind of like watching an animated movie, all that work gets summarized and we should remember that the elapsed time of the video is a vastly smaller amount than the work you did for this. These will be super helpful going forward!
@rhysiamt3 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the content Steve! Really looking forward to seeing comparisons with Intel and older Zen-erations in upcoming videos.
@shredman593 жыл бұрын
Really great video. Thanks for all the work. Can't wait to buy a new video card when able.
@agustincorvalan57223 жыл бұрын
I'm glad I bought the 5600x. I have 0 regrets after watching these benchmarks. I saved so much money... Thanks Hardware Unboxed! Love the channel!
@Devilman6663 жыл бұрын
I posted my rig on reddit a few weeks ago and some users made fun of me cause I had a 5600x paired with a 6900xt. I facepalmed so hard lol.
@josepedroteixeira97212 жыл бұрын
@@Devilman666 Same rig as me! I usually sell parts and pcs a lot and since I tried the 5600X, I've yet to use another CPU. I'm on my third right now! Since I watercool the PCs on ITX cases, usually the gain from running with a CPU with lower TDP allows me to run cooler and more silent or gaining some overclocking headroom for the RX 6900XT :)
@geftep33993 жыл бұрын
This is amazing. I was literally thinking how difficult it would be to do a comparison like this and then you upload a video actually doing it. Thank you.
@andersjjensen3 жыл бұрын
He has done it before and he will do it again. To hell with the combinatorial nightmare that goes brrrr... it's already X cpus * Y gpus * Z games * 3 resolutions * 2 quality settings * 3 runs each... I'm not entirely sure if he is still human or if he has ascended to some divine state of commitment, focus and sheer fucking will.
@Lightsaglowllc3 жыл бұрын
5600x is an absolute beast.
@prague54193 жыл бұрын
Absolutely excellent testing! This answered a multitude of questions in a single video. Very much looking forward to your future comparisons using this data-structure.
@joeykido14503 жыл бұрын
A more in depth testing on Professional application like Davinci Resolve(Studio) performance or all in all workstation appliances would be super interesting. Your precice testing would super helpfull!
@BlissBatch3 жыл бұрын
**Steve:** I've finished 1,700 benchmarks. **Joey:** Have you considered a more _in-depth_ testing?
@joeykido14503 жыл бұрын
@@BlissBatch just in general😅 not asap
@bygonebebygones85033 жыл бұрын
Just wanted to say, I really really appreciate the time you (and your team) put into making this video !!
@_unseenhunter_50933 жыл бұрын
Holy shit, we should not be getting this content for free. The absolute amount of work you put in is outstanding and you deserve heaps more of subs and views for what effort you put in.
@VascovanZeller3 жыл бұрын
Agreed. You can pay what you think it's worth over on patreon.
@MikaelKKarlsson3 жыл бұрын
That's basically why I dipped into Patreon. Even now that I'm not really looking to upgrade my own system it feels well worth at least one dolla dolla bill.
@znici68713 жыл бұрын
Heh! I guess you're one of those who say similar things when GPU and CPU companies increase their prices, too.
@_unseenhunter_50933 жыл бұрын
@@znici6871 What? I'm saying this because Steve has worked his ass off to make 1700 benchmarks and he deserves much more of a return on his efforts.
@Bonkers19803 жыл бұрын
Thanks for taking your time to make this.
@T.K.92 жыл бұрын
Whenever I feel like I wanna get a 5800x or 5900x. I watch this and then I am happy with my 2nd hand 5600x 😅
@Eternalduoae3 жыл бұрын
Great job, Steve. Nice to see these sorts of analyses
@UnisoleBunker3 жыл бұрын
Just purchased a 5800x over the 5600x soley because it was only £30 more expensive as I got a good deal
@mineman20023 жыл бұрын
Downright one of the most useful consumer product benchmark videos Iv ever seen, good shit
@JonathanSias3 жыл бұрын
"Welcome back to Hardware Benchmarks!"
@oopsydaisy46373 жыл бұрын
Wow that took a lot of effort/time. Thanks for the helpful information and showing what's what with CPU's and GPU's!
@balex963 жыл бұрын
I can't begin to imagine of what you go through to provide this fantastic content for us. 1700 benchmark runs is insane. Seriously, thank you very much for your hard work.
@JuanLopez-fk7nt3 жыл бұрын
Thank you for taking your time I needed this video got a new subscriber
@traiantrante42113 жыл бұрын
This put my mind to rest for picking 5600x over an 5900x
@RedOneM3 жыл бұрын
If gaming is all your pc needs to do then great!
@f-22raptor253 жыл бұрын
@@RedOneM should I get a 10600k it's like $110 less than 5600x
@RedOneM3 жыл бұрын
@@f-22raptor25 Depends on the GPU and resolution that you're aiming for.
@f-22raptor253 жыл бұрын
@@RedOneM overall I was planning to get a 10600k with a 3060ti 1080p ultrawide, and then get a 11700k in like 1.5 years on sale just like the i5. That way it gives me the ability to upgrade to like a new generation or two of gpus
@RedOneM3 жыл бұрын
@@f-22raptor25 With the 3060Ti you shouldn't worry about missing out on performance (even at 1080p-Ultra settings) by not having a Zen3 CPU. Once you enter the 3080/6800XT territory then having at least a Zen3 level CPU is relevant, as this will effect the 1% and 0.1% lows somewhat noticeabley. Seems like a fine upgrade path, only thing to keep in mind is that in 1.5-2years we might already see DDR5 memory on the market, so perhaps a full platform upgrade is worth it, but time will tell about performance uplift.
@dragos-lucian3 жыл бұрын
Yeah... you gotta be extremely professional to not get lost in all those test results. I wouldn't be able to understand anything I've benchmarked after 2 hours of tests, and Steve did a 17 minute video of 2 weeks worth of tests... Absolutely nuts Kudos, man! I liked the video before I even started watching it.
@andersjjensen3 жыл бұрын
He must record the benchmark runs in a spread sheet as he goes... keeping this stuff on scribbled notes might summon a demon if you read it out loud...
@arrowdynamlc3 жыл бұрын
as someone with a 5800x and 3070, this is perfect.
@minamikhail66363 жыл бұрын
Fantastic data! Thank you for the useful info and great content.
@TheAsmileXD3 жыл бұрын
what I got from this is that you only need a 5600X and it's essentially worthless to get a better cpu unless you are planning to get an expensive RTX3090 as well (or you need it for application performance) but everything else is fine with a 5600X
@norm505173 жыл бұрын
And even with the 3090 the benefit is negligible considering how much more you have to pay for the high end gpu and cpu. So...
@innocentiuslacrim22903 жыл бұрын
Content like this is exactly what is needed to get a true knowledge on when to upgrade and what. All those 3090+lowRes+lowGraphicsQuality tests have created an illusion that cpu upgrades are needed when in fact they may not generate any benefits. Once this is expanded to more CPUs we will have real solid ground to stand for these kinds of purchasing decisions.
@rolandopietropaulomabulay33173 жыл бұрын
"Only 4% faster on 5900x vs the 5600x..." So 5600x it is...
@jrzez3 жыл бұрын
So, I like where you went with this. I would actually really like to see a test where it's not just gaming, but say gaming while streaming to twitch/YT.
@suber36g3 жыл бұрын
6:27 yes
@thedalailmao2 жыл бұрын
@hardwareunboxed, would you revisit this for the 5800X3D, 12700K vs something like an 8700K? Thanks for all the work you're doing.
@sergijohnuy35603 жыл бұрын
Hi steve, 3600x vs 5600x GPU scaling next, please? 🥺👉👈
@Boemtie3 жыл бұрын
Thank you for this, i enjoy these so much👀
@AndrewH27913 жыл бұрын
It is weird seeing every AMD cpu online says made in China when mine says made in Malaysia ^^
@pr0xZen3 жыл бұрын
Curious indeed. It's not uncommon to have multiple assembly sites in different countries, Malaysia being a well known one. Might be most reviewer samples sent out were assembled in China? Dunno if ie. HodorUnboxed has any retail samples (yet). Or what assembly region would serve them, Malaysia is closer, but China not that much further off.
@Philovski3 жыл бұрын
Can't say I've ever thought about this but my 5900x is made in China (UK retail purchase).
@AndrewH27913 жыл бұрын
@@Philovski My CPU is a 5800x purchased from Scan UK in mid January so I guess it is just random what shipment any retailer gets or maybe the 5800x's are made in Malaysia and the 5600/5900x in China. I am sure it makes no difference I just like seeing things not made in China for reasons lol.
@Philovski3 жыл бұрын
@@AndrewH2791 Scan hooked me up with my 3080, 5900X came from Overclockers.
@BReal9853 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the extensive review again, HU and Steven. :)
@NomadBale3 жыл бұрын
Lol so for gaming you can go as lower as a 5600 zen 3, even for AAA titles, ah innovation
@DerMeis7er3 жыл бұрын
well done as always mate. appreciate the time you put into this.
@clifflenoir43233 жыл бұрын
Thanks Steve. Makes me slightly less worried about optimising my CPU clocks since it won't make much difference to performance. I am temped to rather undervolt for less heat and fan noise. Any chance of adding Flight Simulator 2020 to the next version of this roundup as it seems very CPU limited
@UberIsLife3 жыл бұрын
This was much needed. Thank you so much for what you do. I love you guys.
@davepianist843 жыл бұрын
Wow that was surely a huge benchmark maraton, thanks a lot, now I see that the 5600x is looking more appealing now
@xero___7683 жыл бұрын
1700 run? man...!!! amazing work. it clear a lot of things. thanks so much.
@davea993 жыл бұрын
Woo! Best way to start the week!
@MrSmitheroons3 жыл бұрын
This is a really great type of benchmarking to see being done. Thanks very much for getting into it, as most don't/can't/won't buy the top-end flagship GPU. This must take just about forever to do. I think for this particular set of benchmarks, it's apparent that the processors are all more than enough for gaming. I don't think Zen 3 is inherently that powerful that it's a full-on revolution over Zen 2. (It is significantly better, which is nice, but not _that_ much better that it inherently runs all games 100%). Rather, the Zen 3 line simply has no low-end or even mid-tier parts at the moment. It only has high-end to extreme/enthusiast-tier parts. So ultimately, with Zen 3 being exclusively premium parts right now, you get lots of headroom for the CPU, at most settings, and mostly just GPU bottlenecks in games. As soon as we get lower-end or mid-tier Zen 3, I expect there would be a different look to the charts where those are included.