Harley-Davidson 2025 - Good news and bad news.

[@jonstone2466]

A couple of years ago I was looking at a Harley. I couldn’t get the dealer to even come down to the MSRP, asking 5K above that. Harlies are primo bikes but they need to change their marketing and how they treat customers.

[@7viewerlogic670]

A couple of years ago was a bad time to look for a bargain price on a Harley.

[@rj8l1121948]

@@7viewerlogic670 0:52 0:52 0:52 0:52

[@chrissmith7669]

The ST models were such a hit dealers throttled sales by charging way over MSRP. My Low Rider ST wound up costing what a true luxury brand sport cruiser would have (R1250 RS).

[@nhzxboi]

Forget new. Buy used. There are low mileage scoots available for far less than the HD has. The dealer can kiss my hiney. They had their day and they can wallow in their own mess as far as I'm concerned. They turned the screws to us for so long, I am quite happy to see the screw turn the other way.

[@michaelwilson2151]

🎯 That's the straight truth. I've bought 3 used HD's from Facebook marketplace. I polished out 2 of them and flipped'em already for decent prices. I kept a beautiful 2000 ultra electra glide for $6,500 that runs amazing. It's only got 35,000 miles on it. It's gorgeous... Looks brand new after serious polish. It looks better than a lot of other used bikes at the dealership for $15,000 or more. I get the same experience for half of the price, and that thing gets compliments every time I ride it. 🤷‍♂️

[@luisibanez3600]

​@@michaelwilson2151yep, fuck new!!

[@tomsreviews238]

Don't blame the economy, Harley has just gotten too greedy. What used to be a toy to use on the weekend is now a major investment for most people.

[@motorman857]

Harley's have always been expensive. But they are priced the same as the competition like Indian, BMW Cruiser tourers and Indian.

[@ofirhayat6305]

What are the prices on the breakout I was thinking getting a breakout, but lest time I came in Harley Davidson dealers ship, thy were asking for 27k so if the prices went down what is it now. I also want to sell my Softail Deluxe before I get my breakout

[@motorman857]

@@ofirhayat6305 H.D. has the MSRP of all their bikes on their website.

[@derfskittlers6125]

Prices are a little high but not outrageous.

[@michaellarkin3108]

If you live in a country based on a capitalist economy then prices will be determined by supply & demand. HD have positioned the bikes as aspirational purchases. That means they will always be more expensive than other brands. As much as we hate prices going up we have to realise that new bikes aren’t the only option.

[@scottkinkead6324]

It doesn't really matter what the price is if you can't sell them

[@neonsamurai1348]

I hate Harley's management as I think they are running the company into the ground while pretending they will be the next Rolex and that somehow their bikes are 'luxury vehicles' because they are expensive. I am also not a fan of the look of the 2024 touring models. I also hated the dealership experience from the Mega HD Malls, and the general attitude from staff and stupid games they try to play with you, while wasting your time. They give attitude like they are working for some high end supercar dealership (something no supercar dealership would ever dream of pulling). The whole thing is utterly laughable.

[@blackseed3323]

Agreed.. had the same experience. Have a 19 road glide special they wanted to give me 11k for it on a trade in , I said no they came back and offered me 17k . But they do play games and waste people time .

[@williej9117]

The best HD dealerships are the long established one's typically owned by someone who is into the sport of motorcycling. HD corporate ran the smaller one's out of business by requiring them to expand beyond the dealerships means. The early 2000's brought in alot of new big glossy dealerships by invester types wanting to get rich - many died shortly after.

[@rodcoulter997]

When a BMW is less expensive, HD is in trouble.

[@patcady310]

I had a BMW. The input shaft on that particular model had a factory defective input shaft to the transmission, BMW didn’t recognize it as a problem and that part is NOT available. The splines were cut far too short and sheared off on the clutch plate. I can get a Harley anything part with a quick search. Huge difference right there I’ll stick with my UL. Thanks

[@rodcoulter997]

@ good point.

[@Pyrrho_]

HD shifted focus to higher-margin models beginning in the 00s and has been synonymous with high prices ever since. What used to be a utilitarian brand of the people post WW2 became a toy for the wealthy by end of century.

[@motorman857]

Actually H.D. bikes have always been expensive. But the fact is their touring bikes are cheaper now than ever when accounting for inflation. 10k in 1987 would be 27,500 today, as an example.

[@rodcoulter997]

@@motorman857I believe you. TampaHD has always done good by me…bought 3 new bikes from them, usually when things are down.

[@hramsay8756]

Jerry, I purchased a new 2006 Street Glide (FLHX-I) at The Harley Shop in Longview, TX. I ordered color matched lower fairings and a color matched detachable King Tour Pak, detachable passenger backrest, and saddle bag liners. I ordered the Screaming Eagle Stage Two 95 cu in kit, Andrews direct-drive cams, and a Dynojet Power Commander fuel injection module. A one-inch front lowering kit was installed, and a full-size windshield was cut down for my 66-inch height. Ten years later I ordered the Screaming Eagle slash-cut mufflers and the engine was retuned. Progressive Suspension front and rear shocks and new tires are being installed and mounted this month. I owe Wayne Hotaling (Service Manager), Brent Eddins (Mechanic), and Keith Calhoun (Owner) all the credit for making it possible.

[@markhoffman3702]

I’m going to pass on the ‘24’s. Too many electrical problems

[@gordiehattrick]

And styling changes!!!

[@Yeetsforthestreets]

My 24 has had none so far. I'm at 4700 miles.

[@jamesberry276]

Older Harley-Davidson motorcycles last forever. Sure, things wear out but it's all available new or used. I really don't consider Harley-Davidson motorcycles expensive. You can buy an expense one but that's if you just have to have top of the line. I wouldn't buy a new motorcycle because in my opinion there's just too much unnecessary electronics to go bad and leave you stranded. I guess it OK if you're going to trade the bike in every few years. It's like with the cars now in that the technology will keep changing every few years and replacement components may not continue to be manufactured beyond 10 years after. A 1960's XLCH was magneto fired and didn't even have a battery. It still got Ya down the road in style! So all this additional technology has turned the machine into the starship enterprise. Better have triple A with recreational vehicle for when the 2024 and newer bikes get some years on them. The late Sonny Barger wrote in his book that the only way to kill a Harley-Davidson is fire. Now I don't think that will apply to the New machines. Not saying they aren't marvelous, Just way to much B.S. involved in keeping those wheels turning.

[@rogerledlow4970]

They just got too dang expensive. Harley and the dealers got greedy. After 11 Harleys I went and bought a different bike 2 weeks ago. They finally lost me.

[@dmac5497]

Lost me as well, have my 6th and last HD for sale right now and I will never return to HD, get woke go broke!

[@johnmccormick6942]

There are you fuckers are!! In Jerry‘s video he said you’d be here in the comments….Bitching and moaning. Talking about other brands… you probably voted Harris and support other dudes banging your wife.

[@RayMyers-hj5zw]

Thanks for the Info Mr. Palladino ! Take Care.

[@KillaCommieFerMommie]

Harley moves production to Thailand, ups their prices, and promotes woke policies.... No thanks. I'll buy an Indian.

[@SavedbybGrace]

I bought a custom Triumph.

[@KillaCommieFerMommie]

@ NICE 👍

[@kennv7566]

I'm sticking with Honda

[@KillaCommieFerMommie]

@@kennv7566 I'd rather my sister in a whore-house, than my brother on a Honda.

[@mikeseager3401]

I Bought an Indian!!

[@goldwingconepatterns2565]

Always enjoy the channel. I like the update on some of the other manufacturers info too. Each to their own choices and enjoy your ride of choice.

[@petebusch9069]

Its not the price, its the politics and Harley lost and better turn a HARD 180 if they want a future.

[@1wesleydb]

I'm still hoping HD gets it worked out to turn that around. It's not just HD though, there's big money & globalist forcing the woke stuff on all the big companies. I wish we could make HD employee & rider owned.

[@rxyz123]

and don't forget, the $3,000 discount is from HD corporate....dont let the dealership get away without making *their* contribution to your purchase!

[@jackedhorse]

$3000 discount is only on '23 leftover touring bikes. They still have '23's! You better give me more than 3k off on a 2 year old model!

[@r.stanley1049]

I’m definitely keeping my 2001 Fatboy for a few more years!!! Long ago paid for, low miles and runs great.

[@firestarter8202]

The reason I went with Indian over Harley wasn’t about the bikes. They are comparable. I didn’t like Harley Davidson‘s business practices. Specifically; charging $650 for initial service which equates to two hours labor and fluids, and I didn’t care for their markups over MSRP. If you can’t put the MSRP and YOUR price as well on a price tag there’s something wrong. I understand that there are some dealers that sell for MSRP, but they are few and far between. But if you paid the price and that’s what you want, that’s great!

[@patcady310]

I took my UL in for it’s first service at gasoline alley Harley Davidson and it was a few dollars under 500 but if I bought the bike there , the first service would have been free.

[@firestarter8202]

@ That’s better. So service for the Indian is $350 with fluids and 300 without. My dealerships sales department is OK, but the service department is phenomenal! Exceptionally friendly, first name, step outside and chat with you for a while, type of folks. Loving my Indian experience. But if you’re in the market for a Harley I would take Jerry’s advice and go right now! And even if you don’t buy a bike, at least get a T-shirt or a hat as the apparel line is helping this great American company get through tough times, bike sales-wise.

[@jamesberry276]

​@patcady310 UL? are they using those letters again or Do you have an old Flathead? That 1st service would be about 75-80 years overdue? Be like a few millimeters a year average riding. To reach the miles. I must not know what a UL is now.

[@firestarter8202]

@ I think that’s the modern ultra limited with the lower seat height? I think it has like a 25 or 26 inch seat height? But if it’s a 310 UL, he could be saying that he took his fishing reel 310 UL into Harley and they rinse off the saltwater, lubricated it and put on a new spool of 30 pound tesit for $500 or so. And that would make sense.

[@spencersmustache2844]

I'm waiting on my R9 in the spring, but I'll listen to some hd news

[@timothyputzke1250]

I was recently looking at a Heritage with a Evolution. I currently have a 78 Shovel and a 2011 Ultra. My wife doesn't understand why I need two, let alone three. I turn 70 next spring, so a new machine is out of the question. Enjoy your video's. Never to old to learn new tricks within limitations. Keep up the good work and say Hi to your wife.

[@RoyJenkins777]

Great point about clicking on a Harley video. It's all about two wheels to me, no matter what you like. I dig my hog and always will. God Bless

[@timperry4932]

My only gripe is that I went to 5 different Harley Davidson dealers in the Cincinnati/Northern Kentucky area and they all wanted to do was try and gouge me with higher prices on a fully loaded brand new touring motorcycle. This was last year. They treated me like a piece of crap and talked down to me. The reason I watch your videos is because I enjoy your riding and teaching videos. I respect you and like the videos and the videos are useful for always improving ones skills. I always liked Harley until the dealers treated me like they were doing me a favor by selling to me and the companies stance on looking down on their customers. So, I ended up buying a different American made motorcycle. I paid cash for it. Therefore, I could afford it and wasn't envious of the Harleys. Although, I really wanted to buy one, I absolutely love my choice and I don't look down on others for their choice. Thank you for your time and the videos that you bring.

[@samslade739]

Whew!! I sure am glad I resisted investing in Hunter paintings.😆

[@SoloPilot6]

The value is that there's coke mixed in with the paint.

[@brendan_13]

Good to see you still have your Revival. Thanks for the content.

[@brunothepug8807]

I always enjoy your helpful videos. A long time ago I bought a new HD Sportster 1200 Custom and I had the dealer do the stage one. I really loved that bike and it was always reliable for me. Than I got my first girlfriend that liked to ride and it was too small for touring with comfort. The Roadking was a bit out of my reach for paying cash. I discovered a not yet well known new brand called Victory. I got a great deal on a Victory TC Touring Cruiser. We rode that bike all over the Western US. Never needed anything but routine maintenance. Age and job injuries meant I had to downsize to get the weight and seat height where I could feel confident. I went to the HD dealer a few weeks ago with my HD riding brothers. The prices shocked me because I hadn't followed HD for a long time. The only bike I could maybe manage happened to be the cheapest being the Softail Standard but it is still expensive. HD had a dilemma, try to compete or become super premium brand. So now they are super premium at premium prices. I am not mad because I just don't see value for money in a HD for my financial tolerance level. Can I buy one, yes, but would I be content to have spent so much, I don't know but I doubt it. I want HD to survive but it will take an amazing deal to get me to bite. What is sad is that HD was a working man's bike, aspirational yes, but you could find a way. Now you have to be a drug dealer or professional class person to buy one. HD went upmarket but is that upmarket buyer around in sufficient numbers to save HD?

[@jamesberry276]

They're not for the rugged individual working class anymore. There like the motorhomes now; There for the retired with fat pension government workers, public school teachers, police, professors, and all those postal workers. As a working class person, you have the choice of taking out a big loan or just find one of the thousands of fine used machines out there from a honest private seller. Harley-Davidson will still finance used bikes for you if you buy one from a private seller. It's not a class thing, but keeping up with the joneses' just comes with a large price. Let the fat wallets uy the new ones and park 'em in the climate controlled garage then when they sell it you have a 1-4 year old new bike. I agree though, the bikes really aren't that expensive the American wages just haven't kept up.

[@motorman857]

Harley's were always expensive motorcycles. Todays Harley's are cheaper than they were 20 years ago and are now right in line with the competition.

[@JA-zh5xi]

There are still 45 2023 models unsold at a dealer group in IL. They need to be cutting prices by 10%, not increasing them.

[@larryserna8834]

@@JA-zh5xi Yeah, nobody wants the 23's (because they were more expensive) because the 24's are a better bike and costs less!!

[@motorman857]

I'd bet if you asked for 10% off one of those bikes, you'd be riding and smiling pretty fast. However, if you have no intention of buying one, it doesn't matter what they have or what the price is.

[@JA-zh5xi]

@ I got a great deal on a 2024 earlier this year - I’m good.

[@larryserna8834]

@JA-zh5xi Good deal!!!

[@johnhuntington3800]

Hey Jerry - saw your “before” video, but never saw an after…..hope you survived that hurricane in good shape. Love all your videos…

[@motorman857]

I made a video right after the storm. No problem here. Just a few branches down.

[@russellhalleran9080]

Thanks Jerry. Hope all is well. Cheers!🍻

[@jerrybrown66]

My 2019 is awesome and I see no reason to trade up for many years.

[@mckracker-853]

I feel the same way about my '18 115th anniversary edition. However, I wish it had the 114 cu. in.

[@HDR20]

@@mckracker-853 easy upgrade. I feel the same about my 18 RGS dressed as a Ultra

[@briannorwell202]

If you think your 2019 is awesome, I’m at a loss for adjectives on how you will feel about the 2024’s. Lighter (yes you can feel the difference), faster, better tech and importantly, run noticeably cooler

[@HDR20]

@@briannorwell202 Not interested. Lighter because of the thin cheaper material(plastic)not interested in speed or tech. Those bikes look horrible at best

[@jamesberry276]

That's the spirit! Get your money's worth out of the bad motor scooter! There's always going to be some sort of a "up grade" to the bikes. Either for good or not so good.

[@barclayclose6818]

You are 100% correct with the Harley haters. Why click on a brand you don’t like. It is a constant reminder on why almost all bikers are great people. I rode my Harley to Sturges from NJ. Spent the month of July riding 6,000 miles. Of all the people I met, the bikers were the best, no haters. Good economy, bad economy, people talking trash about HD management, ,,honestly I will NEVER give up my Harley, Never talk trash. It is what it is. Some people just need to get on with their lives

[@Mike232-j2p]

Will good for you for making bad decisions and investments

[@mrchalco]

Great video and thank you was watching it and wifey said you can get a second bike now. My inner comment was thank you for this video. I’ll be going shopping this weekend for the rg3 gray.

[@michaell2168]

I couldn't imagine owing money on a motorcycle. Guess that's why I like the Japanese bikes.

[@patcady310]

Go price out a Gold Wing. Get back to me

[@gordiehattrick]

@@patcady310 Or a BMW, or a Indian, or a Ducatti. They are ALL in the same ballpark.

[@jamesberry276]

I would NEVER EVER finance a motorcycle! (or a boat, recreational vehicle, or anything not absolutely nessisary) But I have owned over 100 Harley-Davidson motorcycles over the years. I don't get the obsession with brand new motorcycles. Most of the bikes I currently own I can remember wanting to buy when they were new. They didn't stay new very long I tell Ya! Still great bikes though. That's just me though. Another thing I don't get is when I go to the Harley-Davidson dealership to get parts there's always a bunch of customers just hanging around like it's their destination. I wouldn't hang out at the Chevrolet, or Ford dealership looking to belong So why the bike dealership? Must be under a spell or something. To each his/her own I recon.

[@LTVoyager]

Until Harley shareholders replace the board and CEO, there is not good news from Harley.

[@jayteesgear]

This👆🏻

[@jasonbreedlove495]

Good video. I picked up a 24 Roadglide in Whiskey Fire and black the end of July OTD with additional 2yr warranty and tire and wheel for 28,899. Some dealers are about making that sale and keeping the customer happy and comming back.

[@tjzulu1]

Another great video!! Keep'em comin' brother!!!

[@marktaylor8659]

Thanks for sharing the details that you know. I don't get to ride much these days so a new bike doesn't make sense. My 2007 Softail is paid for and runs good, so I guess I'll hang on to it for a while. But I still enjoy hearing about new HD bikes and your take on riding. Keep the videos coming.

[@RobertBucks-xh9tt]

Indian is running similar incentives as Harley. A couple years ago I stopped at a local Honda /Suzuki dealership to get a blade for my Honda lawn mower. Suzuki was running a deal that if you bought a Suzuki cruiser you could get another Suzuki of your choice for 50% off!

[@carlbruhn1772]

That is not advertised on their website. Must be a local dealer thing. Mind sharing dealer name??

[@jameskaufman4065]

Bought my first and only Harley used. No way I could even think about new. On plus side, have had zero problems with it. 05 Heritage Softail

[@briantaylor2242]

I bought a 2014 cvo Electra and added a 5000 dollar stereo system. Also had after market reverse on it. Love the bike

[@killerdublin]

Thanks Jerry. I love the updates.

[@billvickers1367]

Thank you for the update. 🎄Merry Christmas 🎅

[@StefanGronlund1]

Great videos. Wish I had found this site earlier, could possibly have saved me a fractured shoulder, cracked rib cage and an ambulance ride. Still alive, much of it thanks to using all proper PPE.

[@motorman857]

Sorry to hear that. Hope your recovery goes well.

[@johnmclane4115]

$40,000 plus for a bike is ridiculous... nothing more needs to be said.

[@firestarter8202]

@@johnmclane4115 like $100,000 for a pick-up truck.

[@johnmclane4115]

I don't know what trucks you're looking at, but 2025 F150 starts at $40,000

[@nicklabrie]

@@johnmclane41152024 Ford F150 Raptor $134,740 2024 Ford F150 Raptor $98,374 Both at a local dealer. A 2024 Harley-Davidson starts at $11,999. Not sure what your point is.

[@Ineedtotakeabreak]

@@johnmclane4115Where?

[@RyanCorsaut]

@@firestarter8202Who in their right mind pays 100k for a truck. Same people that pay 40k for a harley. Idiots.

[@GoodGuysCarry]

Jerry, I like you and the way you teach, and generally your perspective. (that’s why I click on all your videos) I like my Harley. I can afford any bike I want. But I hate a lot of what corporate Harley stands for. I’m honestly on the fence about buying another Harley or switching brands. I guess that’s why I’m in a “hold” pattern right now.

[@joelstrickland8890]

One dealer is also offering a color matched tour pack with the purchase of any ‘24 touring model.

[@Cowboybiker87]

I just hope Harley can turn things around. It would be a dream to ow a Harley one day.

[@markszablewski6619]

Really thought about upgrading from my '12 fltrx, but had sticker shock when we looked; ended up getting a tour pack instead..

[@peterkoutny1928]

One of the best video you put Mr. Palladino 👍👍👍

[@paulfrederick8902]

Prices as "low" as 38k??😂

[@nemohunter87]

then they wonder why no one buys them.. out of touch with the economy and the working class american.

[@PanM8]

For a CVO. The regular touring models are nowhere near that price.

[@diegolopezzz18]

@@PanM8nah I think he’s commenting on the fact that HD has bikes that are on DISCOUNT for $38K. That just so hilariously illustrates the point that HD is severely overpriced even with their more base model touring bikes.

[@motorman857]

That's for a 43k CVO. I've heard the Street/Road Glides MSRP OF 25k GOING FOR 21k

[@PanM8]

@@motorman857 that's what I paid for my 2019 Road Glide Special. OTD 23 and change.

[@nomore8042]

I have a 2005 Ultra Classic big bore kit and 6 speed trans. It will be my last Harley Davidson. Matter of fact I don't think that I would get a new model if they would trade me even !!!!

[@22Royston]

Sound thoughts Jerry, heres mine. Sales of motorcycles generally both used and new across the western societies are down immensely, we have seen this before. However we can see the beginnings of a bounce. HD will most likely reduce production to assist the reduction in new stock and yes old stock will get discounted to support that stock reduction -24 months for vow prices will go back up through the roof. Buy now is a good idea if you can afford it.

[@bikerbrinrac]

Wow that Harley shop is standing room only. Yep sounds like a good time to buy a bike. I know in our local Harley shop they are currently also doing serious reductions on the 2024 models. Everyone was also snapping up all the 2023 Blk Street glides left due to they preferred those models.

[@darthdurkelthewise320]

Jerry, something tells me things are going to get better in America. 🇺🇸

[@metcruza5536]

Hold on to that dream bro. Trump will be Jacking up tariffs...parts made overseas will go up in price....that tax is paid by you.

[@MarkR973]

I love the ultra but I get it.. did they improve the suspension on road glide and steeet glide?

[@motorman857]

Yes.

[@fayzane]

That's how I got my Kawi! Manufacturers rebate PLUS dealer waived setup and import fees. My OTD price was a bit less tha MSRP.

[@serenityhillhomestead5392]

My Ultra Limited is definitely heavier than my Dyna, but the balance and low speed handling are notably better. I was pleasantly surprised.

[@Eds_PanAm]

My 22 pan am is a great bike, plus bought a husky 701, I just didn’t feel like picking up a 560 pound motorcycle in the woods…lol but the riding position is spot on for me!

[@christoperbrandon1311]

thanks for that great info great vid!

[@Jrtowns1]

I picked up my ‘24 RG for $3,000 less than MSRP out the door. There are deals out there to be had.

[@stuartberke5845]

another great video Jerry. thanks for all the great information.

[@jimharrison4526]

I know I'm looking at trading my Harley in on a newer one while the prices are down. Thanks for your input.

[@NoName-xf2nf]

Nice video motorman

[@keithwilkins7291]

Dealer near me is offering 2 additional years of warranty or 2 years of K service

[@johnandrobinmccoy8305]

Very good info, good content as usual.

[@topher_512]

I can confirm. I just bought a 2024 Low Rider S and got it for less than MSRP. I was actually going to go get a slightly used bike somewhere else, but Harley made me a pretty good offer on the Low Rider S so I went brand new instead.

[@freeride6073]

Went for a demo ride this summer , tried a bunch and the low rider s by far my favorite . I'm jealous 😊

[@georgegodberson7437]

Well said Motorman

[@MrDrew91]

Some dealers are still selling 2021-2023s for just as much or even higher than the 2024s. Lower the goddamn prices

[@motorman857]

To get the actual price of any product that deals in trades in's you simply do your research, find out what similar bikes are going for, and make an offer. But you must be a buyer at the moment you make the offer. Pretty simple. That's been true with cars for 90 years and it works the same with bikes. An asking price is just that. Asking.

[@Mike232-j2p]

The market is full of good deals from private owners who's got all the goodies already on it

[@csean7zero]

Great video, I don't ride and HD, but I certainly do appreciate the beautiful bikes.

[@bighit2481]

I have a few Harley’s I have just bought a 24 street glide. I’m from the uk and our local Harley outlet has just closed its doors as well as a couple more here. It’s not looking good.

[@markt1113]

Jerry, Mark Tinnirella here. Retired Motor Sergeant. Been riding Harleys since the AMF buy back in the 80s. My concern is, as enthusiats dwindle, seems like younger riders aren't into it as much. People rightly criticized the quality issues AMF had, but if it wasn't for AMF, there'd likely be no Harley Davidson today. I predict a future bailout may be in play, if their cash situation doesn't improve. Just my opinion.

[@motorman857]

I don't see a bailout coming. The Motor company is actually owned by the major stock holders, Black Rock and Vanguard. Could another big company buy enough stocks to put themselves in the position of major stock holder? I would think so, but that kind of thing is over my head.

[@harleyquebecenrevue3580]

Jerry, in my opinion the 2024 price drop on cruisers was a big mistake. Did nothing for sales but certainly hurt our resale value. Killing the Ultras and converting to a kit will also hurt resale values. Spending BIG $$$ taking a SG or RG and converting it to a Ultra will be a waste of money as no matter how much $$ you spend accessorizing it, it will still have the trade in value of a stripped down SG or RG. This move will kill resale values, hence making the bikes more expensive to trade in.

[@MrFirstone23]

Yep.

[@nic.lowther.7]

I agree that the drop in price for 24 hurt values and didn’t offer much positive relief. Regarding the Ultra resale, I disagree. The reason my first Harley was an Ultra was because the resale on those is much lower than a Street Glide. 🤷‍♂️

[@SoloPilot6]

What really hurts HD resale value is the number of low-mileage bikes being sold because their riders have aged out. When there is a large supply, in the hands of motivated sellers, prices plunge.

[@jukkaheroja1297]

Hi and thanks for the video! I am not a rich guy, a normal family father and I have to finance my bike. I have been riding Harleys for 6 years so I have no experience of those "good old times" everybody is longing to. Now days everything is expensive. You can´t compare a 1980´s harley to a modern version; of course it is more expensive, but also safer, more reliable, more powerful. Greetings from Finland, Europe! We have canadian weather so ....

[@jimscarnivorekitchen4731]

Great vid thanks 🙏🏼

[@Nate-Wrong-Way]

Jerry, you still have that sense of humor always. Are you sure you dont know what happened last week?

[@motorman857]

I might know what happened since my stocks went up 50K.

[@7viewerlogic670]

Good info.

[@kennv7566]

Harley continued to raise prices year after year on new bikes, parts and service, it gets to a breaking point some people say enough is enough I'm done with buying new Harley. Harley needs to realize high priced bikes won't sell in a horrible economy.

[@motorman857]

Actually, H.D. reduced prices on their two most popular models in 2024, the Street Glide and Road Glide by 2 to 4 thousand dollars. Whats more, H.D. bikes are less expensive now than 20 years ago as I proved with this video kzbin.info/www/bejne/nJuTXnWBnduKpKs

[@kennv7566]

@@motorman857 I just saw a ad from my local Harley dealer they put some discounts on 24' models, never seen this type of sale before, they always stuck to msrp. Sales must really be slow for them to do this.

[@chopperking1967]

Until Harley makes their bikes affordable their market share will continue to go down the drain, and they'll have to keep downsizing and downsizing. And that means their prices WILL HAVE TO KEEP GOING UP. And that will ultimately be the end of them. And this is from a Harley owner (my age: mid 50s). Chopper built from an '08 TC 96", LONG front END, high sissybar, apes, and foot clutch and suicide shifter.

[@motorman857]

Affordable like Indian touring bikes that are 23K to 42K? Or like gold Wings that are 26K TO 34k, or BMW touring bikes that are 22k to 34K? Affordable like that?

[@dongorsegner4607]

Always enjoy Jerry’s videos, I’ll stick to my beat up old Goldwing AKA the Geezer Glide. 😅

[@jackwright9102]

Thanks 😮

[@tax905972]

My 2017 is running just right.

[@rayfrost2552]

Saturday the 10/9/2024 I visited my Sacramento and found the “dealer markup” was near $4,000. The salesman said that reflects the market. The greed and /or management issues is why I’ll keep my 01 softail. I could buy a new car for what they’re asking.

[@motorman857]

The good news is Laidlaws Harley Davidson has no such fees. Plus there's the 1000 to 3000 cash back.

[@0873sp]

Jerry your comment about Hunter Biden’s paintings cracked me up!

[@roadglide]

100%! Great perspective. Thank you Jerry.

[@stretchman490]

There's a lot of people commenting about the price, but what you get for your money in comparison to what used to be is a magnitude greater. The amount of changes to the newr bikes is an order of magnitude more than they were in the past. That needs to factor in. The bikes today are vastly improved over iron that's older. Of course, there's nothing wrong with the older bikes, I mean we all rode them, but they don't hold a candle to what Harley is producing today. Comparatively, they are reasonably priced when considering the value of a dollar these days. These are truly the salad days.

[@Pyrrho_]

@@stretchman490 Comparatively, they're still more expensive than their competition and the sales numbers vs competitors are demonstrating this.

[@carlbruhn1772]

Same can said for the Honda Goldwing. But the base engine isn't a ancient tractor engine.

[@motorman857]

Sounds like you haven't checked the prices of other touring bikes. Had you done so you would find they are all priced about the same.

[@mikerasmussen7023]

Do you think they'll offer the Roadking again in 2025? Thanks!

[@motorman857]

Of course. It's called the Road King FLHP.

[@universidadvirtualdelavida7798]

I rode sport bikes for many years and I thought I knew how to ride until I bought a touring Harley. I had to learn how to ride a heavy bike it was a very humbling experience being able to do a "willie" on a sport bike but not being able to make a U turn on a heavy bike. Prices high or low if you get a Harley take the Ride Like a Pro classes. I do not get anything out of these comment other than tell Mr. Jerry Thank you. I love my Harley I ride two up with confidence because of his class.

[@kd8309]

Good information. Thanks!

[@eb1941]

Thanks for posting. $2K increase for 2025 and HD is not selling their 2024. I don't understand HD's strategy. I will keep my 2003 RK and 2005 deluxe. Great machines.

[@claus4133]

Great video again! I enjoyed it. I am considering putting in an offer on a Pearl white 2024 RG with the blacked out engine and a touring pack for the wife. A little concerned about other associated costs as I am 6ft5 and will need a new seat, possible controls extensions etc.. Oh and an aftermarket exhaust to make it sound like a Harley! I currently ride my '05 RK Classic with the 88 Twin cam, and I love it, but extremely underpowered.

[@yoshit9819]

Very true. I work at an indian dealership. This is the time to buy.

[@trcass1]

thanks for the info Jerry. I have a 2013 FLHTK and a 2006 Yamaha Road Star. Been thinking about a trike but i cant afford one. Thinking about trading them both for a Heritage Classic. might be time to reengage with the sales man again. might have look at some of their lighter choices.

[@SB-mw1bg]

It could get better too. Be patient!

[@leonardoatx3]

Alright that’s the right timing to buy those great paintings ….. uhaaa

[@davidcarpenter8741]

38,000 for a bike is a lot. I only payed 130 for my house!

[@Bagrman-kt1ot]

Jerry, how will the used Harley bikes be priced .. thanks 👍

[@motorman857]

If the demand for used Harley's go up, so will their prices.

[@dougbelasco6261]

I bought 2023 low rider st down the street from the factory in York 230 miles for 18,200 employee bike love it.

[@timphilips575]

Jerry how did your property survive the hurricane?

[@motorman857]

Yes, no problem in my area.

[@josephbelk3924]

Make Road Kings Great Again. Seriously, they need to bring back a classic or standard RK. It's just a bad buy with the price of the RK special.

[@motorman857]

They already make a RK standard loaded with ABS RDRS and a wide verity of colors and the 114 motor for about 20K. It's called the RK Poilice bike. I've done many videos about that and how to get one.

[@josephbelk3924]

@@motorman857 I'm looking, but I haven't seen any of your videos on it

[@motorman857]

@@josephbelk3924 kzbin.info/www/bejne/nmW8maqNgaZgn9k and this one kzbin.info/www/bejne/sKvdiX9_g92Bb9U kzbin.info/www/bejne/n5fEYoB9hrxmr7s

[@justflooreit4me1]

Just checking in Jerry😊

[@Parker53151]

One of the HD dealers in my area is still offering unsold 2023 models.

[@fxdrider01]

I think $1.50 for Hunter's paintings is still waaay overpriced. 😂

[@Dandre01]

Spot on Jerry! HD haters gonna hate - just because.

[@road_king_dude]

Mmm I'm a Harley guy but HD has earned a lot of their criticism fair and square.

[@Dandre01]

@ - capitalism at its best. We keep going back so…

[@SoloPilot6]

. . .just because they are so loud, expensive, uncomfortable to ride, and 1970s technology tomorrow. Hey, what's not to love?