Harley-Davidson Pan America 35,000 Mile Crash Test Review

[@hoss6048]

So many talk of the nightmares with this model. Then there are guys like you that are having a great time with it.

[@gregatized]

Such a great time!!

[@ronaldpotter3962]

Wow, what a freak accident . good luck trying to do that again ! please report on repair and cost. love my 2023 Pan at 5000 miles and looking forward to many more !

[@gregatized]

I was so bummed! New radiator cost $247 and I did the repair myself. It’s as good as new right now!

[@MinnowMoto]

You have beat the crap out of that bike. Watching your videos make me feel confident my Pan America will make it. Worst I do is some fire roads. No where near the workout you gave yours. Happy New Year. Good luck with the bike.

[@gregatized]

Happy new years to you as well! This is definitely my favorite bike I’ve owned. Harley sure seemed to do their homework with it!

[@paulwojnar2291]

If the advertising committee at HD corporate had any brains your video's should be a big part of advertising for this bike

[@jxhnschuessler6826]

😂😂😂

[@Choirboyjr11]

Man, I wish there were more guys like you! I find it hard to get my riding buddies to take an hour trip. Props for putting on that mileage that quickly!

[@gregatized]

Haha appreciate that! These are just such easy bikes to rack up the miles on!

[@JamBot34]

Dude. You are preaching the gospel today! You and me both.

[@huntercharlesd]

Just got my first Pan Am. Thanks for your video; I love seeing people actually use their bikes off-road! Sorry about the radiator puncture; hopefully it wasn’t too expensive to fix.

[@gregatized]

Thanks! You are going to love that bike!! Radiator was surprisingly cheap luckily, cost less than the one I broke on my Honda dirtbike!

[@LooxJJ]

I've had quite a number of adv bikes in our family (starting from my grandfather way way back in early 80s). The issues with Pan Am is pretty common with other bikes too. You want a headache, try Ducati Multi - without dealer recommended maintenance :D

[@gregatized]

Haha yeah… unfortunately motorcycles are turning into 2 wheeled computers anymore

[@KoryS_Uncaged]

A little JB weld will patch that right up! Kidding aside.. love the videos and I do live vicariously through them. Great content!

[@gregatized]

Haha, I still might try plopping some eggs into the rad to see if that’ll help! And thank ya!!

[@vlkv4237]

What big adventure bike would you choose in 2024 for those trails in the woods)? Wouldn't consider a triumph or the new gs. Or a harley handles well. Also a lot of people say it has better control off road with mechanical suspension)

[@gregatized]

That is a really tough question to answer! They are all such good bikes anymore, each one will have its own unique attributes. I just have a soft spot for Harleys. Had 6 of them over the years and they just don’t skip a beat. I’d say test ride them all and go with which makes you smile the most! Motorcycles are just flat out fun and any of them will be a good choice!

[@trudgyhd]

that was incredible riding! I can't believe you could ride a Panamerica through all that !

[@gregatized]

Thanks! Kinda bummed this trip got cut short, it’s so much fun seeing how far this thing can go into the trails!

[@Annon89]

I’ve got a bmw 1200. I’ve had it off road some. Not much. It’s an amazing cruising bike and I love it. It’s just not what I want for off-road or even a dual sport, I wanted it to be that originally though. It looks about the same size as yours, it may be bigger I’m not very familiar with the Harley you have. My post is to say I bought an older Ktm Dirtbike a few years ago and it changed my perspective on off-road riding. I don’t even like messing with my bmw off-road now it’s just super heavy and slow and unstable due to it being close to 500 lb with just fuel and no gear or luggage. It’s made for the road and very mild gravel or dirt roads. Not trails. The dirt bike it’s amazing. I’ve went down on it too but it’s just fun to ride. And fairly indestructible with drops and what not. I say have a bike for the road. And a bike for the dirt. Their isn’t really a bike that does what I want. But there are two and I have them now.

[@gregatized]

That’s why everyone needs multiple motorcycles! I also play with dirtbikes, but there is something rewarding about riding the big bikes in the woods! I’d love to try a BMW 1200 sometime though, I hear they are amazing machines.

[@chrisk481]

This is the first of your videos iv seen and love it. I stopped washing bikes a few years ago, a lot more fun riding than wiping!! Ive been staying away from the Pan AM because of the issues but I am reconsidering now. I have a 500 exc-f which is awesome off road but sucks on road. With such a large pool of bikes out there who knows?!?! Never ending decision, contemplating, and comparing. Think ill just impulse buy!!😂

[@gregatized]

Thanks! There are soo many good bikes in this class that it’s too hard to choose. Ride a few, buy on a whim and be happy!!

[@MotoGoato]

Well that was refreshing!! Love your chilled attitude towards your bike and riding life. No anxiety about dropping or scratching the bike, thrash it n smash it about, use it and abuse it .. but most of all - have lots of fun doing it!! You're turning that ride into a war horse - battered and scarred but still a willing, strong and able companion ... once ya fix it's little rad issue 😉 Nice work, Sir!!

[@gregatized]

Hahaha thank ya!! Motorcycles and the personal challenges of riding them are just flat out fun! I’ve never had a laugh washing and waxing bikes, but giggle like a kid dropping and crashing them!!

[@mikeontour_official]

Btw. Which Model version is it? 23/ 24? or earlier?

[@gregatized]

It’s a 2022 model, Special trim without the adaptive ride height

[@mikeontour_official]

@@gregatizedvery interesting. Ever had any issues with starter or low battery? Just the bike did show some love battery warning. In addition so you charge any devices while driving? 🙏 (sorry I'm in deep analysis of some issue on mine )

[@gregatized]

@@mikeontour_officialIt did have the weird dying starter for the first 18,000 miles or so, zero issues after that. A second push of the button usually got it fired up. I’ve heard there is no compression release and the starter isn’t strong enough. I use the usb port for a phone and use heated jacket and pants with no issues. I did kill it once trying to air up tires from the stock tender port though. Bike has to be off to pull power from it… Still stock battery!

[@motofairy]

Hello friends! I am a 2021 model owner I'm interested in the CVO model

[@gregatized]

The seat and paint look killer on that CVO!!

[@kensmith5108]

Just ordered the PA CVO today. Dealer gave me exactly what I paid on the 23 PA to trade for the CVO. Will see how it is when it comes in.

[@gregatized]

@@kensmith5108congrats!! That CVO is a sharp looking machine!

[@paulwojnar2291]

There are already parts components and even complete engines available in the salvage market for the PA.

[@gregatized]

I sure love scrap yard replacement parts!

[@mjcouture8935]

I’m trying to find mecanisme for windsheild, can’t find nothing

[@paulwojnar2291]

@@mjcouture8935 windshield components may be a hard find . They usually get destroyed in a crash.. Harley Davidson added some parts that can be retrofitted that aleviate the shaking of the windshield

[@paulwojnar2291]

Happy New Year Greg, Awesome videos. Im always watching. I know my PA will last me a long long time as it lives on asphalt. You should be the poster child for the Pan Am. Harley Davidson are you watching ?

[@gregatized]

Thanks! The pan ams are awesome machines!!

[@HaydenAlerte]

You’re ok, at least…. And yeah, 35k miles in such a short time speaks to your dedication (and passion) to the sport. Good sport. Ride safe. ✌️😎

[@gregatized]

Thanks!! I can’t get enough of motorcycles!!

[@thedownwardmachine]

Did you ever come up with a crash bar setup to avoid that happening again?

[@gregatized]

Unfortunately I did not, just trying to crash less!

[@michaeladams2644]

I love the way you keep laughing when you fall off!❤

[@gregatized]

Haha bikes are too much fun not to laugh!!

[@KENNETHedwardMitchell]

Love the vids. Howd you get her home?

[@gregatized]

Thanks!! Luckily I towed it to the trails with my VW. I was only like 200 yards from the car when I binned it so it worked out! 😂

[@ZombieZim713]

Awesome review! Bought myself a 2024 after having had a few traditional Harleys. I LOVE this bike. I see in a short clip you are doing a wheelie, which I want to actively avoid. lol. If I do a launch to dick around with friends in an impromptu drag race, will the traction control keep the front tire completely on the ground or does it bring it up a little bit like the BMW's do?

[@gregatized]

Thanks! I don’t think I’ve ever had the front end lift on this bike without purposely trying. Pretty sure the long wheelbase helps with that. I can tell you traction control kills the party very quickly though! I’ve tried popping wheelies with it on and it immediately slams the front end back down

[@starlordnetzero9633]

How did you get the bike out of there? Walked it to the car/trailer?

[@gregatized]

Luckily it was only a few hundred yards from the car! I typically don’t tow to the trails but I’m glad I did this time lol

[@lifetomyyears1649]

Any trouble with your battery? I have a 2021 special.

[@gregatized]

Still the original battery and no troubles. I do plug it into a tender if it sits for more than 2 weeks.

[@bukweet]

I have a’21 PAS. Still on the original battery… no problems. I do use a battery tender. When the battery does finally go, I’ll probably replace it with a lithium ion.

[@lifetomyyears1649]

@@bukweet good to know I am riding mine from Texas to California to visit family then back to Texas this month.

[@greenrush4313]

what tires are u running?

[@gregatized]

Anakee wild front, and a Heidenau K60 ranger rear. The Michelin rear lasted less than 2,500 miles and is way too expensive

[@stevenwescott1422]

I’ve found rear tires with good traction equals really low mileage on powerful and heavy ADV bikes. 1290sar eats rears by 1500 miles you’re shopping.

[@greenrush4313]

@@gregatized how did bike handle on highway?Im trying to find the best all around for offroad and highway. From what i heard the more offroad doesnt ride to well on highway.

[@gregatized]

@@greenrush4313you can definitely tell it has knobbies on the pavement. Turn in is a little slower and it feels heavier. Never felt a loss of traction unless I’m getting carried away in the twisties. I’m actually a huge fan of the stock tires. I’ve done a few BDR routes on them and dry offroad trails with no issues

[@greenrush4313]

what mode did you have it in?needs to be in OffRoad minimum. offroad plus w traction off is the best

[@gregatized]

It lives in off-road plus with traction control off. I wish there was a way to permanently leave it in that mode without holding buttons at every start up lol

[@greenrush4313]

even on regular roads?@@gregatized

[@gregatized]

@@greenrush4313Yep! I do switch to “road” if it’s raining to get rear abs back. I rarely use sport as the power seems to come on too fast for playing around

[@bartlawhorn2762]

Bet that air filter is dirty. I just traded mine off Saturday and it has 32,000 in one year.

[@gregatized]

Wow you cranked out the miles! And I guarantee that filter is dirty. Thing is like a dang bissell vacuum cleaner!

[@mikeontour_official]

The like definitely for the donuts and the wheely 🤘🎸

[@gregatized]

Haha thanks! I definitely need more wheelie practice

[@mikeontour_official]

@@gregatized man , that looked just fantastic 👌👍🙏🙏 I guess it was the first on a PanAm ever seen (from my side)

[@dancrawford174]

I've dropped my PAS a bunch of times, tough bike! I use my DR650 for the more knarly stuff.

[@gregatized]

Glad to hear it’s being put to work! Those DRs are awesome machines too. Miss my old DR350 soo much!

[@dancrawford174]

I had a DR350 before the 650, I wish I never let that one go, it was made street legal with a dual sport kit.

[@dancrawford174]

I love riding the 21 PAS! Just need to be careful with the throttle, it gets up to speed fast!

[@gregatized]

@@dancrawford174they sure do! I’m just glad they have really good brakes! (At least the front ones haha) the rear is numb on mine since day 1

[@thomasmarquez6790]

I have the XR650L 👍. Also 2022 Pan America.

[@ProfessionalNoodler]

Props to you for pushing the Pan-Am off road

[@gregatized]

Thanks!!

[@gertklay]

I bought the extra Motea guards to protect the lower part of the engine. But I'm not getting as crazy as you are on the bike... ;-)

[@gregatized]

I’ll have to check those lower guards out! Thanks!!

[@gerrycout7845]

I have 66,000 miles on my CBR1000RR and it still looks like new. Barely a scratch on it. Oh, how we enjoy the sport differently..! 😂 Carry on…

[@gregatized]

😂Those bikes look soo good clean though!!

[@billyflanagan9657]

Just got a 2024 sold my 2023 lowrider st for it. The panamerica is the best bike i ever rode

[@gregatized]

Congrats on the new bike!! They are amazing machines!

[@billyflanagan9657]

@gregatized Thank you I love it.

[@viniciusmelo4112]

i love my dyna but im thinking about buying a pan am, i want to have some fun in the dirt and my poor dyna cant take it anymore 😂

[@gregatized]

A dirt dyna build would be pretty rad!!

[@edm163]

Awesome riding footage

[@gregatized]

Thanks!!

[@Eds_PanAm]

damn! well even with a guard those rocks would have still got it....i dig these videos dude....

[@gregatized]

Haha thanks!! If only these things were still air cooled…

[@Eds_PanAm]

@@gregatized lol, i like this motor better, i traded my 22 lowrider for it

[@gregatized]

@@Eds_PanAmThese pan am motors are wicked! Those new Softails are awesome too though, they are my 2nd favorite Harley after this one lol. Can’t go wrong with either!

[@Eds_PanAm]

@@gregatized not really, i'm just older, and I really prefer the seating position of the panny...adv bikes have changed it riding for me. I wish I was tall enough to ride a XR650 lol

[@gregatized]

Feet under the seat is the way to go. Fortunately there are so many good bikes in this market right now. And XRs are rad! You ever look at the DR650s? They’re a bit lower and people can do some magical things on those bikes!

[@2ride_along]

Thank you…I would never have one to go off road like that. lol

[@gregatized]

Haha that wasn’t the plan with this one either! It just became more fun the further into the woods it went

[@davidspin5353]

ADV bikes should be Air Cooled, like my Moto Guzzi V85TT.

[@gregatized]

That would have saved my issue here! Haha

[@theladwiththebeard]

PAN DOWN....PAN DOWN...... hopefully for not too long.

[@gregatized]

Hopefully FedEx can get the parts to me ASAP!

[@theladwiththebeard]

@@gregatized Fingers crossed!

[@GiancarloBenzina]

Man, that thing can‘t even survive a tiny non-crash drop without expensive cost. Loved the idea, test-rode one got very off-put by the engine‘s character and low-quality parts and their placements. No it‘s no S…, but I‘d invest my money into other off-roaders.

[@gregatized]

I’ve dropped this thing more than I can count and this was the first ever break 😂. But I absolutely love this bike for what it is do with it!!

[@gregatized]

I’ve dropped this thing more than I can count and this was the first ever break 😂. But I absolutely love this bike for what it is do with it!!

[@mikeskidmore6754]

You have Ridden it a lot. Too Big Too Heavy and Too Expensive for me.

[@gregatized]

I’m just trying to get every dollar’s worth out of the thing!

[@mikeskidmore6754]

@@gregatized I never checked the resale value of Pan Americans.. If you kept it as a pavement Princess it would be worth more still. I will look at the Yamaha Tenere 700 Honda Alpenstar 750 and maybe the Husky Norden 901.. the Husky has more features and costs more. I like the low gas tank

[@gregatized]

@@mikeskidmore6754It’s awesome that there are so many good bikes in this category, especially the mid weights! I have a soft spot for the H-D so I could care less about the resale value. I’m riding it for my enjoyment, not the enjoyment of the next owner 😂

[@mikeskidmore6754]

@@gregatized I have a 2008 Buell Ulysess , with a 17" front tire and 23.5 degrees fork rake I need to keep it on the pavement . Getting your Balls Roasted on a warm or Hot day and having vapor lock is not so much fun.

[@mikeskidmore6754]

@@gregatized I hit a Deer going 55 MPH on my Yamaha FZ-07 busted up fan shrouds , Headlight .. bent the crap out of the radiator and pushed it back but still didn't leak. Bent the Forks a lot.. Even the Speedometer / Instrument panel quit working.. I know have Crash bars.. My side cases saved the bike a lot . Dairyland Estimated $3,700 for parts I paid $7,400.00 for it new.. New forks were $208.00 each but an Ohlin Cartridge kit was $650.00 now I have handling that is safe to ride at higher speeds..

[@Ivolutcion]

Bro just buy a enduro bike

[@gregatized]

Already got one, gotta challenge myself with the big pig on occasion!

[@mattyb7736]

I agree, he needs to get rid of the ditch pump and buy a bike that can handle those conditions, like a Royal Enfield Himalayan 😂 Air cooled, and solid enough the ground gets damaged if you drop one

[@Ivolutcion]

@@mattyb7736 ewe royal Enfield how about no but if your gonna rid in the woods I would rather use my Enduro bike then a big "adv" let's face it all the adv marketing is BS.

[@Ivolutcion]

​@@gregatizedYou ride good but if you where on a lighter bike you wouldn't of crashed on that small rock.

[@gregatized]

@@IvolutcionHaha thanks! And crashing is part of the fun, even my 350 exc-f gets binned a few times on every ride!

[@billyflanagan9657]

You are strong you picked the bike up like nothing

[@gregatized]

Haha you kinda figure out the techniques when you drop it as much as I do!

[@elithegreat6463]

Never understood why anyone would take a 25k Bike, and reduce its resale/Trade in value by fucking it up in the dirt and crap of off road. 🤦🏻🙄🙄

[@gregatized]

Haha, bought it for my enjoyment! Not for the next owner’s

[@Extra_Ordinary_Gary]

That's why no one will remember your name

[@gregatized]

@@Extra_Ordinary_Gary😂 Is there no one else!?

[@batteryflaccid8189]

@@gregatizedmy father never understands that. “Doesn’t matter if I plan on keeping it forever”

[@billbonu1639]

I'll ride circles around that garbage on the trails with my old DR650

[@gregatized]

Thanks for watching!

[@fatboyrowing]

When you need 40 horsepower and you have 150!

[@gregatized]

It’s fun to live excessively!!

[@fatboyrowing]

@@gregatizedBTW, I chase Ian down the road. Since I’m on an Evo Springer, he usually needs to wait for me!

[@gregatized]

@@fatboyrowingthat’s awesome!! Those springers are rad so you win in the looks department!!

[@DavidBarryWood]

air cooled you would just move on

[@gregatized]

Haha yeah…

[@davidmatthews3093]

More Mayday than PanPan.

[@gregatized]

😂 done stuffed it on the port side!

[@motofairy]

Useful as a reference　(≧∇≦)b

[@msd85TvT]

That thing is a pavement adventure touring bike…..and Harley is going to gouge you on the repairs….looks like you had fun though so 😂😂😂

[@gregatized]

Had an absolute blast!! And that radiator cost substantially less than one I smashed on my CRF450!

[@wikeywikeywhick3852]

that will cost ya

[@gregatized]

Haha yeah, luckily the cost of a new radiator is way less than I initially thought. Still hurts though!

[@mattgolding7557]

Nice vids….How much did the new rad cost you ?

[@gregatized]

@@mattgolding7557Thanks! It was right around $250, gonna do the install myself

[@jayglen3071]

Sounds like a lawn mower!

[@gregatized]

I wish my cub cadet ran this good!

[@coryhawkins967]

Yeah I Mow my yard with a hayabusa John deere so idk what he's talking about.

[@davebevin]

Jesus dude, just buy a dirt bike. A YZF or a CRF. Adventure bikes weren’t made for this shit. Sort it out.

[@gregatized]

😂 I have dirt bikes for the hard stuff and race days. I just prefer to ride big, lift big and live big!! 💪

[@davebevin]

@@gregatized then you should be riding a Yamaha Super Tenere ES. For those that lift big, that’s the biggest bike. Unless of course you only lift a little……..

[@gregatized]

@@davebevinNah…. The Harley can haul more cheeseburgers

[@stephenbryson5618]

Why do you laugh when you cash? with all the broken parts and the day going now the cost and getting it home Not much to l laugh about..

[@gregatized]

Haha that’s where the fun starts for me!! I love riding, crashing and wrenching!