Harley-Davidson Pan America sound [RAW Onboard]

[@n.potter]

It doesn't sound like a traditional Harley, but it does sounds like an evolution for Harley :) congrats to Harley for trying to step up their game to be more competitive rather than sticking with tradition.

[@Schaaf]

I agree!

[@gandhar3548]

"sounds like an evolution for harley" *me thinking how beautiful old evo engine sounds at low idle😪💖

[@exothermal.sprocket]

There's a reason why they don't sound the same. If you want to make horsepower, you gotta spin some RPMS. Those giant pushrod engines can't do that without exploding, so in order to make 150 horsepower they'd have to increase displacement 3x what they are, like a hotrodded S&S engine, but then you're like a diesel, still turning no RPM, huge amounts of rotating mass messing up rev quickness, bike handling, and overall response. 45° V layout isn't optimal for higher revs either due to vibration, connecting rod clearances, other things. Ducati has run 90° for a very long time because with that layout you can achieve perfect primary balance without an additional rotating balance shaft which sapps engine response, takes away horsepower from the wheel, increases inertia and complexity. I think I prefer the sound of a 90° Vtwin generally, but other layouts sound fine. KTM runs 75° for example, Indian FTR is 60°.

[@m3talc0re]

@@exothermal.sprocket let me introduce you to some of Moonshine Harley Davidson's builds..

[@exothermal.sprocket]

@@m3talc0re I'm speaking in a relative sense comparing most all Vtwin engines across brands. The common Italian, Austrian, Japanese sports Vtwin runs about 9 to 11,000 rpm redline.

[@d0n_key]

The most outstanding thing to me is the speedometer being this fluent as opposed to the normal digital speedos where the speed is updated like twice a second.

[@Schaaf]

Yea

[@Mike-uk2oq]

It's a simple software change, but I agree it looks much better

[@markwhitty4838]

I hope Harley have great success with the new line of bikes. They've really stepped out of their comfort zone, and I really like the look of the Revolution motor. I'm booked in for a spin on the Sportster S at the end of the month, cant wait! Great spin again Schaaf!

[@Schaaf]

Yea indeed I hope they turn out to be successful! Have fun with that Sportster!

[@theoffroadexecutive]

Perfect timing - just got home tonight from riding my new PanAm up&down Sardinia, 2200+km in 5 days..... Thanks for sharing this awesome ride Schaaf!

[@Schaaf]

Sounds brilliant!!

[@johnschotz1614]

All that distance on a trailer???

[@theoffroadexecutive]

@@johnschotz1614 What trailer? No trailer: Munich-Brennero, Jaufenpass, Lago di Garda, Modena, Livorno, Olbia, SS125 Orientale Sarda, Dorgali, Baunei, Lanusei, Cagliari - return again via Olbia/Livorno/Milano/San Bernardino...

[@johnschotz1614]

@@theoffroadexecutive hahahha i meen it’s a Harley, not famous for reliability.

[@theoffroadexecutive]

@@johnschotz1614 haha - oh dear you are right: I did have to visit the dealer in Cagliari to replace the dead battery....and it seems to have a problem in heavy rain....;-)

[@Ebbeebbeee]

I love the intake sound at wide open, and it really rises quite good

[@Schaaf]

thanks Adrian!

[@LeGrandPleb]

When I get middle aged, retire early and move to Alaska, I'll get one of these. Such a cool bike and I'm neither an ADV or HD guy. Immediately loved the look of it when it was first shown.

[@mverick5444]

You would probably need a truck for the snow

[@Schaaf]

Alaska is great for riding! But only for 4 months probably :D

[@buraqmejker]

I like that I can jump straight to the chapter review, good job!

[@Schaaf]

Thanks!

[@electric7487]

Finally, the long-awaited Pan America ride-along video that the Internet has been begging for. Glad you liked the bike! I really hope Harley makes 700cc and 900cc versions soon, as they would basically print money for many years to come.

[@freebehindbars8654]

Harley 750’s are some of the worst bikes ever made.

[@JohnSpartan-117]

@@freebehindbars8654 I had one and it rode smooth like butter

[@electric7487]

@@freebehindbars8654 The new midsize Pan Americas would be powered by 700cc and 900cc Revolution Maxes, which would be completely different from the Street 750's engine.

[@freebehindbars8654]

@@electric7487 That would be great, but remember who we’re talking about. They could do so many things, but seem to fear real change. The Pan America is a good step in a much needed new direction. Many other smaller manufacturers have developed new categories in the time it’s taken HD to try to update an old model. I’m American, so I want nothing more than HD to grow.

[@freebehindbars8654]

@@JohnSpartan-117 That’s great, most everyone else thought it was flawed and severely underpowered when produced. Including myself. I truly couldn’t believe HD put their name on such a poorly executed bike.

[@frankfeng6199]

This bike looks more and more capable than I expected after watching a couple reviews! Thanks for the great content as always

[@Schaaf]

Welcome!

[@MrKiddoMoto]

It has been a long time I hadn't watch your videos, being too busy with my non-KZbin life... Watching this one made me realized how much I missed it. It's still as awesome as before. Pure riding, great visual and audio quality, just enough comments about the bike and the context. This is perfect :) [and I hope everything is going well for you!]

[@Schaaf]

Salut Kiddo! Nice to see you!! I hope you're doing well still :) thanks for stopping by!

[@navyanikii]

Any v-twin sounds epic... especially the Harleys...

[@Schaaf]

thanks

[@VigneshJayakumarvjrenato]

If anyone told you you could ride a Harley like this 10 years back

[@Schaaf]

hehehe indeed

[@racerdaveracerdave]

Yeah, never would have expected it. Impressive

[@petermuller161]

That would have been the Buell

[@Audace1400]

It's great to see HD venture into new territory. I test rode the Pan America, felt like a sports bike with great power delivery. Definitely needs some pipes on it though.

[@Schaaf]

Right on!

[@OrangeRaineAtDawn]

Awesome video! My local HD dealer hasn't had any PanAmericas in stock, so I've been unavailable to test ride one. Thanks for the video, now I know what sound to expect, it's got a very nice tone! 👍

[@Schaaf]

Glad to help!

[@kalimarus]

I’ve been waiting for this one to actually hear some quality sounds from this bike. Thanks Schaaf, you capture these bikes so well. Sounds great through my AirPod Max headphones.

[@Schaaf]

Thanks a lot

[@electric7487]

"Sounds great through my AirPod Max headphones" *r/hailcorporate*

[@mastadriver]

As a GS rider I was invited to take a test ride on this new bike and I must say it's a very good bike. As a whole it doesn't feel as glued up as a GS, maybe more like a KTM but for the first attempt for HD, job well done.

[@Schaaf]

Well said!

[@humoroustumor]

Oh man I can’t wait to see the Sportster S on this channel!

[@Schaaf]

That'll be an eternal wait probably

[@7starsfear]

I would never even consider riding a traditional Harley, but this really does look like a nice bike. Definitely a step in the right direction if they want to stay relevant in the modern motorcycle market.

[@Schaaf]

indeed

[@rohandcruz5297]

The deep burbles on downshifts is just melody to my ears!!!

[@Schaaf]

Thanks

[@markdaniels70]

Great video!.....just pure engine sound no music or talking😀❤

[@Schaaf]

thanks Mark!!

[@dedelabinouze5110]

I can't believe i'm saying that but i'm impressed. Also it looks amazing ! Best looking ADV on the market.

[@Schaaf]

It is impressive indeed

[@JOVANI7919]

I just purchased my first ever motorcycle, also my first to ride. A pan America. Only have a few miles of experience and I completely suck and shifting and downshifting. Really looking forward to being this good one day

[@Schaaf]

I'd sell it and take something more beginner friendly. The Pan Am handles a lot less nicer than almost all other ADVs out there

[@ericx7476]

Sounds like a Japanese v twin cruiser. It’s nice to see Harley moving towards the future. Those new engines are nice.

[@Schaaf]

Thanks

[@taylorb4548]

I was riding my V-Strom on the highway next to a Pan America the other day… Harley did an AMAZING job with the aesthetics of the bike, in person the bike is eye-catching to say the least. $20,000 sounds like a lot, but given the revolutionary design for THE iconic American motorcycle company, I don’t think there’s going to be any issues getting these bikes off the dealers’ lots.

[@Schaaf]

I hope so!

[@harshaokin8064]

"As always, commenters who haven't read the description will be ignored. And numbers going over 120 will be censored" Haha, nice video, Schaaf! and a particularly uncharacteristic sounding HD! I enjoyed it. Cheers from India!

[@Schaaf]

Thanks man!!

[@MikeBobpokie]

Thx Schaaf, I own a 1250gs, but am also a Harley fan, so glad they produced this , the brand needs more relevant models to survive. In saying that , when I buy a Harley, it will be a cruiser , I am 59 , right in the Harley demographic . Use my GS for daily and serious trips , Harley for half day cruises .😁😁

[@Schaaf]

Sounds right to me

[@eckee]

I always felt like HD has been held back by its image and fanboys. I believe they have a great future if they dare to evolve.

[@Schaaf]

Hopefully!

[@ronaldmcdonald9322]

Your videos are high quality content.

[@ernstkrebs5349]

I owned 7 BMW ADV before switched to HD, changed my driving style and bought a Street Glide in 2017, in 2020, I bought a Sportster as second bike and in may a Breakout 114...First I saw the PA and thought hmm?...three weeks ago I had the chance to ride it and I ordered one...Street Glide will leave now.... "boarding completed "... thx for your video

[@Schaaf]

Congratulations!

[@ernstkrebs5349]

Thx a lot

[@BriNaCa]

Best sounding Harley I ever heard!

[@Schaaf]

Thanks Brian

[@stefanocomodin8252]

Only commenting to encourage yt algorithm... Great as always

[@Schaaf]

much appreciated!

[@elchaconaso]

saw 1 last week here in florida,amazing machine.

[@Schaaf]

It sure is!

[@ytr8989]

Thanks for the Harley time. Didn’t sound like I expected. The Royal Enfield is still the best sounding engine.

[@Schaaf]

Thanks

[@GravityHooligans]

Ich finde es klasse von dir das du jetzt öfters nochmal ums bike gehst ! 😬

[@Schaaf]

Ich versuchs!

[@noname-1122]

The Fire Department Kall in Germany has this Bike as Emergency Vehicle😂

[@Schaaf]

Cool

[@blipco5]

Good one. I'm glad you're happy with it. Harley took a great stride forward with the Pan America but took an equally great stride backwards with the Sportster S. So... even.

[@Schaaf]

Well said!

[@My.name.goes.here.]

I wouldn’t say it’s a great stride backwards. It might be kinda weird in some areas but I think it’s gonna be a lot better than our initial reaction.

[@blipco5]

I'm neither a fan of adventure bikes or Harleys but I wish them well with the PA. According to many reviews, they really have something here. I saw the Bronx in person at a NY bike show and thought... ( being a big fan and owner of Japanese nakeds) finally a Harley I would own. But no... the scrapped it for the Sportster S. Single front disc, two inches of suspension travel and forward mounted foot controls??? Unless of course you pony up $700 for the mid controls which bolt on to the engine covers 😳. The Sportster S is a dumb bike. Form over function. Just dumb.

[@My.name.goes.here.]

@@blipco5 yeah they kinda crushed my soul when they cancelled the Bronx. I think they’ll bring it back, or atleast I hope so

[@saddle8bag]

Definitely a short stroke twin. Sounds great up in the revs. With that kind of power, I think I'd only need two gears. At least there's no quick shifter so rev matching and all the glorious farting that comes with it is still part of the experience.

[@Schaaf]

Thanks!!

[@Deathgod2911]

I'm excited to see where harley is going with this bike on the market. Can't wait to see one in the flesh...with a sissybar of course

[@Schaaf]

hahaha

[@zardportugal]

Amazing 1st attempt from HD building a big trail. Cheers.

[@Schaaf]

Indeed! Thanks mate

[@beesnweedz8124]

Its about time Harley thought outside box, this is unique machine!

[@Schaaf]

Indeed!

[@dmaxcustom]

How to do a video bike review: The human shuts up and let the machine talks. On that note: Sounds like there is something lose somewhere. Cant tell if its the bike or something else since it starts when the engine is revving high.

[@Schaaf]

so I guess it still IS a Harley haha

[@frshtlldthfreshtilldeath9670]

I love the pan am. Considering buying one as my second bike. One of the last evo sportsters and the new pan am would be the perfect mix of riding styles imo.

[@Schaaf]

You won't regret it!

[@thierryd4683]

Merci à toi. Merci Harley.

[@Brad-RB]

I came away with the same opinion after I rode the PA. It's a very good bike for sure. The low RPM grunt just wasn't there like the GS. It should sell well for Harley and I hope it does.

[@Schaaf]

I hope so too!

[@derwolf6364]

Eine von meine Lieblingsstrecken hinten von Pressbaum raus, wo ich sie das 1. mal gefahren bin hab ich mir gedacht die wäre was für dich, dachte nicht das sie kennst weil viele Videos von der anderen Seite hast!!!🤣👍🏽 Wie immer top gefahren, eine Freude zum zuschauen!😄 Vielleicht fahr ich dir ja mal übern Weg im Wienerwald, auch alles meine Hsusstrecken🤷🏽‍♂️🤩🤩 Schöne Grüße aus Mödling 🙋🏽‍♂️

[@Schaaf]

besten Dank! Ich hab tatsächlich lange gebraucht, bis ich die Strecke für meine Zwecke entdeckt hab ;)

[@phatlakersfan1]

Definitely not a slow bike. The looks is growing in me too

[@Schaaf]

nice!

[@dietmardurr5285]

ULTRASCHAAFER Beitrag!

[@Schaaf]

Danke, Dietmar!

[@ridethetiger1895]

I wonder in the US how many Harley guys are gonna give Pan America riders crap for not riding a "real Harley" lol. That info screen looks a lot better than my Tiger 900 though. I am impressed so far with Pan America for being Harley's first foray into the ADV segment!

[@Schaaf]

That's it!

[@toofastnobrakes]

So what do you think? Ya think they could make a good naked bike out of this motor/platform? I’m really hoping they bring back the Bronx

[@Schaaf]

Indeed they could

[@aviezek3072]

Hm.. The engine sounds to me like duc multistrada. Cool video as always man 👍

[@Schaaf]

Thanks man

[@sighheinrich]

Hiiii Schaaf! Just wanted to pop in and say hello. Been watching your videos since you had ~5000 subscribers.. Still here even though I don't ride motorcycles anymore :)

[@Schaaf]

I appreciate that! Thanks man!

[@LondonSteveLee]

Cracking job as usual - dunno if it's the mic position but it sounds like there's an exhaust leak.

[@Schaaf]

Thanks

[@yama3276]

Nice looking road!, btw is it one lane?, also nice video schaaf! :D edit : it's a 2 lane XD, didn't watch the next minute

[@Schaaf]

:D Thanks

[@worldhello1234]

@0:30 Woher willst du wissen, ob ich den Beschreibungstext ignoriert habe? :D

[@Schaaf]

Sobald du eine Frage stellst, die darin beantwortet wird :)

[@rohanb79]

Hi Schaaf, do you brake with one finger or two. I tried with one it’s hard for me , maybe finger length and strength is the issues , so I use two. Correct me if I am wrong you keep the index finger up and ready and also finally use two fingers to brake as it seemed to me?

[@Schaaf]

It depends on the bike but usually I brake with 1. 2 also works well.

[@MrDavidfuchser]

Updated version? I need to refer to my notes to see how long it took to update the sportster. Oh dear.

[@Schaaf]

Haha

[@Imran-qz3xm]

As always great rewiew. Thanks 😎👍🏼👍🏼

[@Schaaf]

My pleasure!

[@lovethytuber4770]

I'm hyped! Sounds quite european but nice, overall ballsy bike - me like big time! Not to mention that it looks like a Starwars Scout Trooper would ride it to work :)

[@Schaaf]

Thanks

[@rafaelozanotria]

Nice review. Which bike would you choose in order, Multistrada V4, Harley, BMW S1000xr?

[@Schaaf]

kzbin.info/www/bejne/i6DSgJV-mp2cm7s

[@onecookieboy]

Nice review, many thanks. I noticed the engine seems to have a lot of mechanical noise, especially higher in the rev range, or is it just me?

[@Schaaf]

I would say it is rather quiet

[@_amangupta]

hey bro make a rev matching tutorial

[@Schaaf]

It's funny you say that under this video where I failed most rev matches lol

[@sergiososa5855]

excellentttttttttttttt machine!!!

[@Schaaf]

Sure is!

[@markoobradovic9242]

Compared to the rivals the Harley has a much better sound. Did you guys realize the pops?? Amazing

[@Vilmir]

So, if the rider does a lot of city, the GS and the Multistrada are better?

[@marcdroste4217]

No way, PanAM smokes the GS on the road..

[@Schaaf]

Yes

[@fsxeryt4186]

What’s your opinion on Sumos? Will you try one out soon?

[@Schaaf]

kzbin.info/www/bejne/d5DPh4hrg6x8i7s

[@mburton]

Beautiful bike!

[@Schaaf]

Yea!

[@guntarssuitins]

Great bike and rider . Sounds not like a v2 :), I want that Harley .

[@Schaaf]

Thanks!

[@Szlejer]

Sounds great, but the looks... Any seat time ion the new MT-09? I tested it at a Yamaha day, would like to read your take on it, Schaaf!

[@Schaaf]

I'd love to but unfortunately Yamahas are hard to get

[@gigiloko]

Falls du jemals die Chance hast eine Ducati Monster 696 zu fahren, wäre ich dir sehr verbunden wenn du ein Raw Video hochladen würdest XD

[@Schaaf]

Schön wärs kzbin.info/www/bejne/aoikqnZmnpKjp7M

[@Monster-lk2wk]

Wohne leider zu weit weg sonst würde ich meine zur Verfügung stellen.

[@pistolpete6321]

Great video!

[@Schaaf]

Thanks Pete!

[@itsgodzagain]

Pan America content left and right was there some embargo on it or what?

[@Schaaf]

nope Pan Am tests have been out for many months now actually.

[@LogoShot0514]

Interesting... I thought the pan america has a stock U&D quickshiter Anyways still the most sporty Harley I've ever seen, what a nice bike

[@Schaaf]

Unfortunately not even as extra

[@alexanderdolotovsky1101]

Songs interesting. What about your legs, especially right? Was it hot from exhaust?

[@Schaaf]

In the city, yes

[@exothermal.sprocket]

Really wish this 1250 engine would have been produced in the now-defunct Bronx. The street model it's ending up in gets a much less performance oriented chassis/wheel set by the looks of it.

[@Schaaf]

Yea

[@tobiasschaaf5017]

Darf sie kommendes WE zwei Tage on- und offroad testen. Bin gespannt!

[@Schaaf]

Sauber!! Viel Spaß!!

[@tobiasschaaf5017]

@@Schaaf besten Dank 🤘🏻 hast mich schon mal super mit deinem RAW drauf eingestimmt.

[@motoxxlsalvomancuso]

where is you video ride with multi v4 S?

[@Schaaf]

It doesn't exist

[@abhishekneelam6028]

Africa twin or harley ,which one is better in your opinion?

[@Schaaf]

The AT is the better working bike but for my taste it is not powerful enough therefore I'd take the Harley

[@Krzywomord]

How this bike compare to V85tt? which you would take for spin more often?

[@Schaaf]

The V85

[@L.toca.boca.]

Screamin Eagle sounds best on this bike. Stock pipes are bad just like on the GS. They both sound like supped up lawnmovers.

[@gregorylucas2977]

Agreed - bad, bad, bad. No matter how much one accelerates, stock exhaust is a real bad deal. A must change to Screamin' Eagle.

[@Schaaf]

I'd like to try one with SE for sure

[@timoleontriantafillos6338]

Geiles Video :) Was fährst du privat eigentlich für eine Maschine ?

[@Schaaf]

CB500 PC26

[@briglnai]

was würdest Du im Vergleich zur Multi 1260 sagen, die HD geht nicht so gut oder? Super Sound hat die neue Pan-Am 👌 edit: dafür geht die HD wohl buttersmooth bei niedrigen Drehzahlen...

[@Schaaf]

keine Ahnung, dazu müsste ich den direkten Vergleich haben, sorry

[@c.g.c2067]

I like the effort to design something different and I must say they made a good job, I'd never buy it though...

[@Schaaf]

yup

[@Skaleni888]

Geiles Video Schaaf, danke! Das Bike sieht echt cool aus, würde trotzdem den Afrikanischen-Zwülling bevorzugen :) Speed Safe, lg aus 1180

[@Schaaf]

Besten Dank, Patrick!

[@judge4342]

That exhaust popping..a lot for stock. Also you look like ride a 🚢! I wanted to see that bike spinning keep going

[@boubarnous90]

I like it

[@Schaaf]

thanks

[@danvilela]

Why blur the speedometer sometimes?

[@Schaaf]

keyboard warriors

[@sabyasachiroy7482]

I wonder the people who lend you these bikes like private dealers, do they have 2 atroke bike?? I'm just curious about this

[@Schaaf]

Unfortunately not

[@sabyasachiroy7482]

@@Schaaf well that explains everything

[@zipper978]

Harley is slowly turning into a euro style bike

[@Schaaf]

Fortunately!

[@rob1399]

still mad about the bronx but good job harley

[@Schaaf]

;)

[@KawasakiZ-mi1vs]

No QS ??

[@donjon8916]

Wow this sounds different from the other harleys

[@Schaaf]

it sure does

[@kataloganz]

where can I find the v4 video?

[@Schaaf]

There is none

[@kataloganz]

@@Schaaf oh :(

[@byever1]

Is this a triple?

[@Schaaf]

yes

[@BoBBaB0oN]

The only thing they lack right now is the design. But I like the move they did on not sticking to tradition.

[@Schaaf]

I quite like the looks of it :)

[@BGPD70]

Why did you keep blurring the speed out ...what the

[@Schaaf]

Nobody knows

[@paulocarreiro5855]

Sounds good!

[@Schaaf]

thanks Paulo!

[@ercanyesiltas]

I just miss the random cats or dogs appearing on a cb500x dash

[@Schaaf]

;)

[@semitrous9613]

hey man I love your videos! Did you ever had a chance to ride a Yamaha Tracer?

[@Schaaf]

Yes but not the current models

[@algrippaldi]

Way to do a review (sound), but if a baby crosses the street.... And I'm a pilot!

[@Schaaf]

in Austria we don't have free roaming babies

[@neoreloading]

FUN FACT: You can learn the speed limit of the road by watching after what speed the speedo is getting blurred :D

[@Schaaf]

aha