Harley Quinn & Poison Ivy - A Slow Burn Relationship in the Making

[@BonsaiPop]

Any day a Lines In Motion video comes out is a good one. You killed it as usual Dani, awesome vid.

[@linesinmotion]

Vice versa to you guys too, man! Many thanks as per usual 🙏

[@cinderleaves3949]

Harley and Ivy is a pretty good example of an enemies-to-lovers slow burn. I love it.

[@linesinmotion]

Kind of a funny one, because Ivy essentially hates most humans anyways 😂 Harley was *just* able to break through that hardened exterior

[@cinderleaves3949]

@@linesinmotion yes

[@thediscospider5701]

No it’s enemies-to-friends-to-lovers.

[@FuckTheYoutubeUsernameChange]

I wouldn't say it falls under that trope at all. They weren't immediately best friends or lovers, with Ivy acting quite stand-offish towards Harley in the beginning, but their friendship developed very quickly.

[@jp3813]

They started off as immediate partners in BTAS.

[@TravenTalks]

This is a great retrospective! I'd always been aware of Harley & Ivy's relationship, but I didn't realize how deep it ran, and you gave a nice through-line to its history. Also, I just have to say, the thumbnail for this video is genuinely amazing, in so many ways, lol

[@linesinmotion]

Thank you! And I think (even more especially for newer generations picking up comics) that the awareness of just *how* long it took for this relationship to develop might dwindle a little as most comics nowadays have them as a legitimate pairing - which was a rare case when I was reading them years ago. But hahaha, thank you! I was actually debating on this thumbnail as to whether it worked or not, but i'm glad i stuck to my guns!

[@imaniislander755]

Same, but that's on me for not watching more dc

[@teresakocaj9685]

Wonderful retrospective!!!!!!!

[@jturner2577]

Over the past couple of years DC's finally admitted what fans knew for hers. Hard and Ivy are in love with each other.

[@linesinmotion]

Fans have been waiting on this for years, DC are just catching up at this point 😅

[@jturner2577]

@@linesinmotion Yep. Here's a fun Headcanon I have, the Dee Dee Twins are also Poison Ivy's granddaughters.

[@noneya3635]

What DC content have you been reading? Pam and Ivy have been a thing in canon for more than “a couple of years.”

[@LalitoVAngel]

Creating a cohesive visual aesthetic for characters like these who have been adapted over multiple mediums over several decades and styles is incredibly difficult and you've pulled it off in flying colors!

[@linesinmotion]

Honestly, that was the hardest part! Making animation and then animated comic flow was really difficult but i'm glad you enjoyed it and it seemed to work - appreciate your words 🥺

[@cyncynshop]

I love this. Im someone who mostly consumes mainstream DC content, and before all the romantic relationships just doesn't matter much to me. When I encounter this pairing, it just feel right. I wish the Birds of Prey (one of the best DC movies) franchise get to this cannon pairing.

[@linesinmotion]

Super happy to see another birds of prey fan, it's actually one of my favourite dc films too - it was so much fun! But I completely agree, this pairing feels so natural!

[@jturner2577]

@@linesinmotion Birds of Prey was a good film that was the victim of Bad Advertising/Promotion.

[@carsenmaxwell3336]

Margot Robbie wants a live-action Poison Ivy

[@phantomdaze2599]

I wouldn't call Birds of Pray a good film, but it was a step in the right direction. I believe the animated show sis more for the characters, at least in my opinion. I really want a live action Harley x Ivy movie now.

[@garycannon4644]

you mean you think what they did to cassandra cain was a good thing? please tell me im not living im some damn bizarro world lol

[@AdaraFukuchi]

I didnt even know they were a canon couple! i just thought they were a ship! welp, poison ivy is probably a much better partner for harley than the joker :'v

[@linesinmotion]

Ha! Yeah they're relationship was depicted as canon in a few AU comics like Bombshells years back, but it's only been within the past year or so where its been legitimately portrayed as canon in the DC lore

[@jturner2577]

@@linesinmotion Yep they finally realized there's no point in hiding it.

[@carsenmaxwell3336]

@@linesinmotion In Bombshells Harley and Ivy kissed for the first time, but their first canon shown kiss was sometime I think in the 2014 series. It is implied that back during Batman The Animated Series, the animated Batman and Harley Quinn movie, and its various comics that Harley and Ivy were a couple. Batgirl Adventures #1 and Batman: Harley and Ivy. Batgirl inquires to whether or not they are in a relationship, and Ivy tells Harley “You know my mind control doesn’t work on women.” Harley replies “Oh, right”, that sounds like they were a thing in the DCAU, at least for awhile. They were always supposed to be a couple according to Bruce Timm and Paul Dini, but the networks and time weren’t as progressive or accepting, they were worried that would’ve been too advanced of an issue

[@Hanlunn]

people probably say this constantly but MAN YOUR EDITING IS AMAZING. Especially now that you're animating panels. You deserve all the recognition possible and more!

[@linesinmotion]

Thank you so much !!

[@Lost_pixie]

i really do want a live action movie that depicts harley and ivy's relationship, especially since in birds of prey, its canon that the joker broke up with harley, idk, i would just find that interesting :)

[@Julia-od7xt]

It really is a beautiful story to cover and I haven't seen many people doing it, so thank you! And, must say, your editing is so smooth and professional, I enjoy watching it every time. Looking forward to your future projects!

[@linesinmotion]

I've seen people cover Harley and Ivy, but not in a detailed way, I guess? So I saw that as a massive opportunity to blabble out a favourite comic relationship of mine haha. But thank you very much, greatly appreciated!

[@RivkahSong]

As a baby gay back in the 90's, Harley and Ivy was the first time I'd ever seen two women in anything like romantic love. I was still a long ways from understanding I was a lesbian but even as just a child I was captivated by their relationship. The Batman Animated Series was my first foray into DC since I was primarily a Marvel girl (Marvel hooked me young with X-Men, Iron Man, and later Deadpool lol) and until just recently I didn't bother to follow ANY DC content with the sole exception of Harley Quinn, especially when she was with Ivy. My brother and I were so excited when the first Harley Quinn comics came out and they were really blatant about Harley and Ivy being romantic. ❤

[@qaq8409]

I love how they were not made for each other manually, i.e. no one really planned to have them get together at the beginning, but as their own story progressed, they become more apparent to be naturally made for each other.

[@Axe-hn8br]

No, eso demuestra lo forzado que es juntarlas.

[@ridley1230]

Your videos are some of the most well written and gorgeously edited out there. They never fail to blow me away! Looking forward to more in the future!

[@linesinmotion]

Aw, thank you so much, that means a lot thank you!

[@cmgvillager]

I really hope they can get married someday and live happily together. They truly deserve each other.

[@voidvalkyrie]

I’m not ashamed to say my 11 year old self shipped these two the moment I watch BTAS ep Harley and Ivy. Saw these two and my kid brain said: Yeah they are super in love. They even live together!

[@linesinmotion]

Same here!!! Young me absolutely loved then too 🤭

[@autumn-vl5ez]

these two make me so happy :) thank you for covering them, we lesbians appreciate it

[@linesinmotion]

Same, instant boost of dopamine 😭😭 I will keep providing content for the gays 😤😤

[@tinytigertamer]

THIS. This is why I wrote an essay for English class on why I love the Harley Quinn animated series (with a specific focus on Harley and Ivy’s relationship). I am in love with their character arcs and their slow burn love story. And I’m new to the DC universe! The new animated series was the first time I ever encountered the Harlivy relationship and it really hit home for me. I’m dealing with a toxic relationship (though parental rather than romantic) so the themes of finding individuality and recovering from abuse really resonate with me. I’m now trying to catch up on decades of the Harlivy relationship because they are my newest obsession. It’s a beautiful story that I cannot get enough of.

[@EpikkWin]

Just found your channel and wow we seem to love the exact same things: 1. sapphic batman character 2. manga/anime 3. the owl house just subscribed!!!

[@linesinmotion]

omg 🥺🥺🥺 taste!!!!!

[@LazyPillowCase]

Love the fact that they both were Doctors (PhD) and with the circumstances that lead them to one another they chose to stick to the path where they are together

[@BellaGem]

I love them due to this. They feel real. Started as friends and had a common background. They could just talk about life and the abuse of others. They healed each other. This is my favorite girl couple. Also showing bisexuality. I love ivy and Harley as they started from friends to lovers. True love should always start like this. I love them 💚❤️💚❤️❤️💚

[@April2x]

If Margot Robbie produces the movie with Poison Ivy and manages to get Emma Stone or Karen Gillan to play her... idk, I'd probably die from happiness

[@eatonuter7113]

I grew up watching mostly DC movies, but I never really knew of Harley Quinn and Poison Ivy's relationship. Sure, Harley will ALWAYS be Harley, but watching the animated series on HBO Max, I started to learn and understand why it's a big deal. They've been together for nearly three decades and have been through a LOT. Great perspective on the history of the two female icons of Gotham!

[@Otaku_Reaper]

"babe wake up" "huh" "there's a new lines in motion" "huh" *start's watching the video*

[@linesinmotion]

😂😂😂😂

[@TheAlessandroKid]

Thank you for making this. It's grreatly informative. I plan on making a rather lengthy Harley video myself, and I would be happy to credit you. My HarlIvy/Poison Ivy segment in particular is the longest of all, and videos like these help greatly. Nice to gain some honest insight from other people willing to bring attention to a topic like this in a mature and passionate fashion.

[@linesinmotion]

Oh sweet!! I'd rather not any of the editing of used be shown just because of how long it took to make them haha, but i'm more than happy for you to add any credits if you really want too! Glad to see more people talk about this pairing, thank you for watching!

[@TheAlessandroKid]

It will be more of recommended further reading/watching.

[@crestren5996]

Harivy is the most compelling and best romance dynamic Ive ever seen. I love them.

[@mauricioonate2621]

I love your writing and analysis, thanks for all of your great content!

[@linesinmotion]

Thank you so much for the support!! :')

[@Maneyax]

I believe that Harley is the only reason that's stopping ivy from destroying the world via using world ending plants. we all know that's she's capable of doing it, but i think ivy only does so much as if she goes too far she could loose Harley either via accidentally killing her or having Harley hate ivy for killing the joker and the world. so I think that ivy just "has fun" and does crime, but does do too much so she can stay with Harley. Harley grounds ivy and keeps her from destroying the world and possibly more. because ivy cant die since she's a plant and she will just get "regrown", because she's basically mother nature. I think any time she looks old is just because she's wanting to relate to Harley and live with her. but if Harley would to die then I believe ivy would snap and replace everything with plants and consume the world. and no one could stop her because in her iconic phrase "Nature always wins".

[@coraldelaluna]

Ive fallen in love with the character arc of Ivy and really appreciated her solo comic Life and Death but youre amazing and surprisingly insightful video convinced me to get one of the newer harley quinn poison ivy storries. Youre video essay is noticably affectionate and you have an amazing understanding of their relationship. Hope youre doing well :) and thank you for making this video

[@DeathAlchemist]

I remember you mentioned this on a livestream and it turned out great. This is super sweet and framing the whole relationship as healing from abuse was one I didn't see. Makes a lot of sense tbh.

[@LikaLaruku]

Poison Ivy & Mystique were two of the first women who ever made me question my sexuality, My first lesbian ship, & now they're both married to women. I can finally look up "Harley Quinn" on Twitter & see zero pictures of her with the Joker anymore. I'm also convinced Joker is a sadomasochist with a very warped one-sided crush on Batman that will never be requited, & he never felt anything for Harley.

[@Idkdoesthings154]

If u don’t like them together u can leave

[@SuperBrunight]

Estou completamente emocionada aqui. Que vídeo maravilhoso sobre meu casal HarlIvy. Quem ama esse casal sabe o quanto é gratificante vê-las juntas na linha principal. Parabéns! Ficou lindo! 😭😭😭🥰🥰🥰❤️💚👏👏👏👏👏

[@IslaMcTear]

Fantatsic video !!! I loved this one !

[@linesinmotion]

Thank you Isla!! 🙏🙏🙏

[@aking1300]

Very comprehensive, extensively detailed deep dive into Harley and Ivy’s relationship and who they are as characters. I enjoyed every second, I learned some things about them both and I liked that you drew knowledge from multiple versions of them to paint quite a poignant picture. This made me excited for s3 of Harley’s show! Excellent job and I’ll be watching your other videos when I can. I look forward to seeing what other videos you post!

[@Derpital]

I'm so happy i found this channel. Every video doesn't fail to inform me of the main components of consumable media that make it so great. And i love the deep dive into the history of their relationship and why it does make sense to see them together. And don't get me started on the way you animate and edit your videos! Sheeeshhh *chefs kiss*

[@linesinmotion]

Thank you so, so much - this means a lot! 😊

[@devyanirai1036]

another incredible video, can’t wait to see more stuff from you!!

[@linesinmotion]

Thank you, appreciate it 🙏

[@acatthatmakeseclairs]

This video brought to near tears! I'm not a huge comic book fan, but finding true love in someone whose always been there for you, even after world has broken you down time and time again, just hits home for me. Also here's a hypothetical: if Harley and Ivy never became villains, would have still found each other? I think they would.

[@shakthi6351]

I would literally hear you talk about ANYTHING. Your videos and voice are.....Soothing? Idk how to put it 😅

[@linesinmotion]

haha, i take this as a great compliment - thank you!

[@holdinonion]

Beautiful editing once again!!

[@linesinmotion]

Thank you! 🥺🥺

[@graceross4888]

Love your videos and I love them as a pairing, I usually don't like romance on comcis but those two actually help each other grow and enrich their arcs

[@linesinmotion]

I don't particularly love the romance genre as a whole myself, more than I just happen to read romance if it comes up in a different genre i'm reading/watching - like adventure/sci-fi etc.. But with these two it's great because i get the whole package, some wacky comic adventures and then their dynamic on top!

[@oliviab4079]

You hit the nail on the head of exactly why I love Harlivy so much: they're two damaged women who heal together and find strength in one another to grow. I also find it really cool how they weren't designed for one another so to speak, it wasn't a Lois and Clark situation where one character was invented to specifically be a love interest, instead it was something that developed naturally. One of my pet peeves in confirming established characters as queer is when a brand new character is fabricated out of the blue and publishers are like "this is so-and-so, the established queer character's true love" and that's kind of all they exist as. Harley and Ivy however were both their own characters first that then came together and I think that's just so cool

[@meghanobrien3045]

The Neil Gaiman origin of Ivy is the most prominent but it was not the first, before Crisis on Infinite Earths Ivy, named Lillian Rose, was poisoned by Marc LeGrand.

[@cassiedevereaux-smith3890]

Queers have known since day one. Lotta cishets as well. For some folk, though, you can show a same gender couple get married on panel/camera and they'll be like, 'oh they're really close friends'.

[@VeeZzz123]

this ship is so good im glad it got to be canon

[@linesinmotion]

Couldn't agree more!!

[@gtgn2808]

The amount of effort put into the video editing and animation is jaw dropping. Would you ever consider making a behind the scenes on how your videos are made? I would love to see that.

[@linesinmotion]

Thank you so much! And I have done one or two tutorials on my patreon for that kinda stuff, it's pretty difficult to put it elsewhere 😅

[@jturner2577]

1:44 That it does.

[@LilithCl]

Amazing vídeo, thanks so much for this 😍💚

[@linesinmotion]

Thank you for watching!! 😁

[@SuzumeMizuno]

Your work is so awesome and inspiring!! Always a pleasure to watch your videos

[@linesinmotion]

Thank you so much! I'm glad you like my videos 😊

[@kennithbob]

This was a really informative video. I loved learning about their history. The clips are stitched together seamlessly. Great vid.

[@nathanbrown8038]

I really love your videos I mean your editing is amazing

[@linesinmotion]

Glad you like them! Thank you! 🥺

[@HyperPoirot]

I love your vidéos, such great work! You deserve so much more recognition!

[@linesinmotion]

Haha, thank you so much! 😊

[@CineShinya]

Excellent analysis once again

[@linesinmotion]

Thank you 😊

[@swageyamatobiyolo8068]

aaaaaaaa omg the Sana shoutout XD I wasn't expecting a TWICE reference omg (btw exceptional content as always. love it to bits xx)

[@supermr123454321]

This was really beautiful amazing video

[@linesinmotion]

Thank you I appreciate the lovely words!

[@whyparkjiminnotridejimin]

They're so sweet. I'd enjoy a movie about these two.

[@MPerMinute]

Great video!! I forget what podcast/video recommended the Harley Quinn tv show to me, but so glad I watched it. This relationship was such a pleasure to watch grow.

[@linesinmotion]

Same here, even outside of the harlivy relationship, the show is genuinely SO funny. I laughed out loud way too many times at the jokes

[@Frogman1212]

101 Ways to turn Supervillains into Sitcoms. Even though the protagonists are horrible murderers.

[@anonygent]

Nice to see Sana in here, but you missed Hwasa, who also did a Harley Quinn outfit one Halloween. It's boo (like book, not boot) - zum (bosom) buddies. It's more likely that the reason Ivy never kills Joker is because that would make Harley hate her, and that's the one thing Ivy couldn't live with.

[@hotshot104]

Ivy played the LOOONG game getting Harley away from Joker, helping build Harley’s confidence, and falling in love with harley along the way. and honestly they’re “bad guys” but they’re not BAD GUYS

[@LiiiiiiMa]

This video is a piece of art itself! Thank you so much for this analysis! ❤💚

[@linesinmotion]

Thank you!!!!! My pleasure 😊😊

[@douglasphillips5870]

I haven't seen the new show, so I think I'm missing a lot. I can see Harley falling for Ivy pretty easily. She's always been openly affectionate and dedicated as a lover. Ivy has a longer history, and I think that's getting in the way for me. She has usually been an aggressive and manipulative lover, which is a side of her I haven't seen addressed between her and Harley.

[@batchuemissary7741]

Good stuff All around props but special mention to the visuals.

[@linesinmotion]

Thank you!! 🙏🙏

[@kira68200]

I have just finished the 3 seasons of the animated serie "Harley Quinn", first of all I DON'T care about the fact that a character is gay, or bi or something else, I just want a story that isn't stupid and interactions between characters that make sense to me the romance between harley and ivy MAKE sense, via older material (like "batman the animated serie" for exemple) or the start of the serie "harley quinn" they have known each other for a long time, they have good chemistry, they have help the other with their issues and supporting each other so yeah, I ship their relation, I know the harley serie is a bit more childisch and comical than comics, but I like it and the romance with ivy is definitly a plus to me ps : which make me hearthbroken that they breack up in the ocmics, but it makes sense again, harley is a changing character where ivy isn't so much

[@joldomort5515]

When I have time I’m going to come back and watch this - don’t know a lot about Harley and Ivy but I’m intrigued

[@linesinmotion]

Honestly, this means a lot! If you're not massively familiar but are still willing to comment on the video and potentially give it a watch further down the line, that's far more than i could ask for - I appreciate it 😊

[@Fiona-zx9mk]

Thanks for the video! 💯💟

[@linesinmotion]

Thank *you* for watching ☺️☺️

[@carsenmaxwell3336]

9:23 but doesn’t Ivy have other friends? Gotham City Sirens had the 2 of them plus Catwoman, isn’t Ivy friends with Catwoman?

[@mr.roachclip1792]

It's funny I find this to be sick as in repulsive, go figure huh.

[@anaispeyron719]

It's always a pleasure watching your videos 👌

[@linesinmotion]

Aw, thank you 😊

[@Huhu0137]

20:16, does anyone know which comic it is? Pls I want to read it so badly🥹

[@jjcandelabra6164]

their just really, really good friends guys

[@gagamonster1049]

Beautifully made and explained!!!!

[@renoypallitharaantu5413]

Escape from pleasure planet 2. Sheriff dr renoy p a

[@osohista]

good vid. poggers.

[@linesinmotion]

thank you 🙏🙏

[@lammyuvewevewekve4622]

I do hope you do more game commentary content. Love all of your videos

[@linesinmotion]

Thank you! I do have a few on my plan list, for they'll be later in 2022!

[@poskeegget8043]

Another beautiful video. With one of my favourite fictional couples as well.

[@linesinmotion]

Thank you so much!

[@avrinrose5457]

Can you Talk About Kaitou Joker?

[@hannah-lo6kk]

Great video !!

[@linesinmotion]

Thank you 😊

[@minerva9104]

WAIT THERES A SEQUEL TO HARLEEN

[@julesmasseffectmusic]

WHY DID THE WRITERS DO THIS TO KITEMAN! If they wanted ivy and Harley together why make kiteman so interesting and fun only to break his heart!

[@yassir._.723]

Great video!!

[@linesinmotion]

Thank you! ☺☺

[@laurenceodell930]

Yeah, quick question: where did he get the old lady Harley & Ivy pic from?

[@anderss6113]

Excellent and quite lovely upload on this charming pair. On point to say the least . Thank you for that

[@linesinmotion]

Thank you so much for your kind words! 😊

[@anderss6113]

@@linesinmotion Anytime my friend 💜

[@michaels2747]

Great commentary. Yes Harley and ivy show the power of hope. Amazing lesson for a comic!

[@renoypallitharaantu5413]

My movies LGBT

[@MoonAnime]

Glad to have learned this pair from your video, as someone who hasn't have much experience with western comics. Feeding Harley enough substance until she's immune to the toxins on Ivy's lips so that they could kiss is really, really cool.

[@harmonetheanimationaddict4419]

What happened to your Realta vid? I really liked it.

[@UltimatePower01]

They do love each other but in the comics they aren’t monogamous, since it wasn’t mentioned in the video.

[@andyme3541]

I am more of a MArvel fan but Ivy and Harley's relationship is just about my favourite in all of Comicdom for... well pretty much many of the reasons in this video. It's a beautiful story

[@growing.flowers]

What comic was 13:41? And 16:18? And…16:35? PLS what comic is 19:21 😤😭😭😭

[@isabellaandrews1942]

Hello! Is there any chance you know what comic the “I prefer my women in green” is? As I would love to read it! Thank you! :)

[@minotaur_king1733]

Wasn’t the poison ivy replace by a clone during there relationship? And when the real one return she was mad at Harley for not noticing the difference.

[@beargojou5971]

You’re covering Chainsaw Man?! That’s one of my favorite mangas of all time! :o

[@linesinmotion]

I will be if my patreon goal is reached, yeah!! I love the series!

[@barry3351]

00:40 *media

[@animaldictatorship5965]

I can't get enough of them!!! Please season 3 give us more Harlivy

[@gagamonster1049]

Need Jodie Comer as Margot Robbie’s Ivy

[@master.gamer2022]

are harley and ivy in a relationship in the new 52 comic books?

[@super0roman1]

What are some good comics where their relationship explicitly exists?

[@patricesmith2321]

Excellent work and thanks! It’s a tangent but, the eyes of the character of RICHARD B. RIDICK seem to be appearing in HARLEY QUINN! Inter textual salute and abstract or a challenge? Remember Harley Quinn finds love RIDICK never will! 🖤❤️🦸‍♂️🦸‍♀️

[@Axiassart]

Harley is my favorite female character in DC and I'm so happy every time someone treat her right and hated when she was with the joker I want tons of movies with both

[@noneya3635]

Uhhhh Harley and Pam have been a thing for a very long time.