Harman Phoenix

I finally got around to shoot some Harman Phoenix.
00:00 intro
00:48 developed in c41
01:54 infrared
03:50 cross processed in e6
04:53 bleach bypass
05:58 redscale
equipment:
Nikon FE2
Nikon 20mm f2.8 Ai-S
Nikon 50mm f1.2 Ai-S
Nikon 50mm f1.8 Series E
development notes:
CineStill CS41
website - atticdarkroom.com
instagram - / atticdarkroom
music by:
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[@metalfingersfilm]

father darkroom is back

[@TheNewBruno69]

One of the best and unique creators hands down.

[@danem2215]

Darkroom Daddy is, I shit you not, an actual apron you can get at Photodom.

[@gotja]

Daddy darkroom to us

[@IFrAnIKOz]

„Normal c41 Film usually looks like this“ * Casually pulls out medium format pano negatives

[@konovan]

those crossprocessed ones looked sick, like a budget retrochrome

[@SprocketHoles]

The film gauntlet returns.

[@fandyus4125]

As for the cross processing, I saw another youtuber do this and he said (and you certainly know better than me how true that is) that the cross processing made the grain a lot finer and the sharpness a lot higher. The guy also said he'd try to shoot the film with a warming filter and cross processing it to see how it turns out, I think that's a good idea.

[@ZupaISO]

You're one of the very few reviewers that got decent looking results with this film! I also really liked the bleach-by-passed ones. Thank you!

[@andrewbroekhuijsen6770]

Wild how different the film base looked depending on processing. Everything from clear to purple to blue to black.

[@nickbell5025]

Finally, been looking forward to this one!

[@lordsenneian]

This is the Harmon 200 video I’ve been waiting for! Love the work. Keep it up when you can.

[@xwingfighter999]

Keep up the good work, it's super valuable 💪

[@hatecouture]

Wow, your C-41 results are the best of those that I've seen, and actually encourage me to try it! Most of the other videos were cursing on a grain and contrast and whatnot, but this looks way better. That cross-processed roll, on the contrary, gave what seems like more casual results than those low-contrast fine-grain examples seen on other videos. Anyway, veeery interesting, thank you as always!

[@iansimpson9351]

I have been wondering how Phoenix would redscale, now I know 👍Loving what you do and always look forward to more.

[@electroncraz91]

Cross process as reversal in RA-4 rather than E6, it comes out way better!

[@austing2968]

Been waiting on this

[@ZeLoShady]

YES! Stoked to see a video from you again. What iso did you shoot the redscale ones at? I have read that you have to compensate 2 stops when doing this. Also curious if you saw the Shaka1277 video on Phoenix. He did E-6 processing as well and got similar results to you while using an 86B filter & box speed. After he processed them in lightroom he speculated that Phoenix could potentially be a tungsten balanced slide film at a chemistry level that we are just processing in C-41. As someone who doesn't know shit about film on that level, I am curious as to what your thoughts might be there.

[@AlphaCentCom]

This was fun to watch. Thanks.

[@danem2215]

"Doing Terrible Things with Harman Phoenix" describes almost every post on the subreddit.

[@erwinc.9117]

PLEASE go ahead and try ORWO NC400. It's actually becoming one of my favs, very unique colours. It does perform best at 200-250 ISO is my findings, I'd love to see what you will do with it.

[@czelendzerii3985]

The E-6 cross is ideal for night landscapes ngl

[@mjfan653]

some people have edited the negs heavily, and gotten good regular colour. it seems ilford/harman has made strides in their colour, but is still struggling with the orange contrast mask. but it is a cool film, and as I understand, they achieved it with much fewer coatings, using their delta tech, to achieve in one coating run, what others do in two or three coatings. so if for ex kodak had used ten coating runs, they used six. just a rumour, but, if true, very promising for the future.

[@xander1052]

I've personally found that you really want overcast weather to control the highlights

[@ale_s45]

I love the place where you live

[@NOVAKINYT]

I live quite close to Ilford, London where it was originally headquartered. Nowadays its just your run of the mill East London town but there is a very slight nod to the history of that place which was a old poster for film on the side of a bin/building. Quite cool!

[@MariusGandolf]

my 2 reactions when I saw this video in my feed: Oh yeah finally a new video! followed immediately by: oh no leave phoenix alone! hahaha but great video I always love to see what whacky/weird/creative ideas are next xd

[@separate_shutters]

You're a hero. Thanks for the info!

[@stevenwagner7520]

Thanks for the video and doing all of the weird stuff with the film so we know how it will look. I shot a roll of Phoenix at EI 125 and was quite happy with the results. I dSLR scan and use Negative Lab Pro for inversion and it handled Phoenix easily.

[@oversharingturtle4462]

Babe another attic darkroom just dropped 😮

[@SamCyanide]

I shot My first roll at 160 ISO, developed normally in c41 and I got to say on the contrasty shots it is very grainy, but shots were the lighting is more even not so much. Some of the frames when looked at on the negative, because of the thin film base and that iridescent blue color, looked like slides Even when developed in c41 which was pretty cool

[@rg1776]

4:39 made my jaw drop

[@jaywhangmakes]

4:21 this cross-processing would make fitting images for emo-punk rock album.

[@NorbiWhitney]

The only Phoenix review I was waiting for. Sad you didn't push it to oblivion, but definitely interesting to see what some other funky results.

[@alexbernatzky5646]

Looking at your first scans, I get the feeling a lot of the crazy results people are posting about this film is due to scanning and not properly accounting for the different colour mask

[@Magkraken2]

I love that your voice sounds like Jon Bois

[@NailBombEnjoyer]

I was waiting for this video for a long time.

[@DanielLopez-up6os]

Been loving the phoenix film so far. Shot It at 160 and comes out interesting for me.

[@neowy]

This is interesting. The white balanced shots look a little like positive film like Kodachrome

[@Shaka1277]

This is awesome! I haven't developed my redscale roll yet, great results. Looks much more "classical redscale" than Lomo Redscale.

[@TreeSurfing]

Great video!

[@zachariea]

I’d be curious to see what it would look like with a cool tone filter to correct for the super warm effect. May make ra4 prints easier

[@xyxyxy960]

i was hoping you'll make this video

[@finkerr6077]

was waiting for you to do this one!

[@robine5280]

Interesting that the ISO 100 shots are that blown out as the researchers at Harman said it actually is more like a 125-150 ISO film.

[@RiverRiley69]

You should red scale the film and cross process in E6 so the film is color balanced a bit better

[@liveinaweorg]

I found shooting at ISO125 gave me some really decent results but I had to put a lot more thought into what and when I was shooting than with regular colour film. I don't mind that and will continue to support the Harman project.

[@fandyus4125]

3:04 I think 700nm filters might exist. That would probably be a lot better.

[@8bit_cat72]

Since it has a clear base, maybe you could try copying a negative to make a positive (essenitally taking a photo of the negative)

[@Qpwrtm]

Your could test for infrared sensitivity by taking a picture of an array of infrared leds, each at specific wavelength, like a poor man’s spectrometer😅

[@jakewestbrook3214]

I'm honestly glad there's more grainy color films coming to the market, just wish this wasn't limited edition. (Hoping for Color mission to come back some day as well)

[@zarrg5611]

Your images came out well, some stuff I saw elsewhere was very strange looking (perhaps the people who were in the promotional deal got an earlier formula, or maybe they did not compensate for the film colour). though I would like to see more examples of this film wet printed in general, Naked photographer is the only one who I remember doing that.

[@ivan9066]

So Phoenix looks sick when you redscale it

[@ZeLoShady]

I've been waiting to see what might happen with it. I figured this film would have a more orangey-red look and boy does it ever! I might have to wait until the forest fires start in northern Ontario and use to document those. I bet the images would be fire.

[@LDSrouquin]

Hey Mr. Darkroom, question for you: What do you use for your c-41 and e-6 development? I'd like to start developing my own color film due to the rising prices of labs, so I'm curious what you use. In addition, I would be interested in seeing you compare the different consumer c-41/e-6 kits that are available (ie Cinestill, Arista, Bellini, etc). It sounds like an interesting experiment, and I'd like your perspective. Thanks for your videos! They are truly fun to watch.

[@atticdarkroom]

For standard color development I'll send it to a lab, partly to get consistent results and partly because I find color development tedious and boring. When I do any alternative development like pushing or bleach bypassing I usually use Cinestill chems. I never really considered another company's color chems, but it might be worth comparing them. Thanks!

[@LDSrouquin]

@@atticdarkroomThanks for the info! I've been looking at using Cinestill's Cs41, so I'll probably go that route at least to start.

[@themmeferal]

Now bw chemistry and trichrome plssss

[@SinaFarhat]

Nice! :)

[@redsphotos1856]

please sir can i have some more

[@fabrifornasiero]

Blue filter on redscale?

[@akai8559]

is this the same Harman that bought out JBL?

[@simonemastroianni1985]

6:32 Custom Pain

[@molagamer]

Hello

[@astragalizont]

Why does it look like the zombie apocalypse has happened?😱

[@halogunter4352]

New Video fuck yeaah

[@BriManeely]

I wouldn't call any of this experimentation "terrible".. .. maybe the bleach bypass, actually

[@Shrek_Has_Covid19]

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