Harpe Ace Extreme Review: Asus Gets Extreme.

[@sestoelemento2171]

Yes, definitely would love to hear your thoughts on Asus $500 keyboard

[@houssamalucad753]

There is absolutely no hope of that review being positive, this mouse at least a halo product to showcase a new material (although somewhat overpriced like the viper mini signature), the keyboard got nothing to save it, worse performance than wooting at double the price, and worse feeling and sounding than costumes or even prebuilt keyboards.

[@sephondranzer]

He already tore that one to shreds. It’s on his channel.

[@xythiera7255]

​@@houssamalucad753 Its not a new material . I dont see for who this mouse is for and there is 0 reason to ever even us carbon other then cashing in on peopl that have no clue about mouse and just here carbon .

[@houssamalucad753]

@@xythiera7255 it's literally the second carbon fiber production mouse ever, and the first one had too few buttons and was wired. As I said, this mouse is made to be a technological showcase and a halo product, few people will buy it, but Asus didn't make it to be a best seller, it's like comparing the regular viper mini vs the signature edition.

[@bearmanpig1130]

​@@sephondranzer I don't see that video on his channel actually

[@gregf3021]

I bought my first car for less than this mouse.

[@badseedtech]

In 1908?

[@60milligrams]

@@badseedtech yup

[@badseedtech]

@@60milligramsgreetings,time traveler

[@Maxiow]

Here in Brazil if it ever comes it'll cost most probably more than the minimum wage, perhaps around 1.5 times that value, taking into account the fact that a older car can cost around 3.5 times the minimum wage or a little bit more you could say that at least where I live this mouse costs 1 / 3 of the price of a car ( not adding import fees and other taxes ). It's quite unbelievable.

[@BM5K007]

boo hoo

[@lockheartmac]

Asus is so overpriced, has shitty customer service, and their software us laughable.

[@OneBrokeBloke]

I work a place that sells hardware and i can buy it for marketprice + 5%. The markup on ASUS gaming peripherals are crazy. I save like 20-40% on them, while competitors like Razer and Logitech is minimal

[@dqskatt]

At least what they're doing is way better than Logitech, right now bro

[@dqskatt]

​@@OneBrokeBloke That just wrong, ASUS ROG peripherals is more lean toward cheaper side compare to Razer or Logitech. Yes, they aren't VXE level price, but they're price similar to Pulsar and Lamzu. Their Keyboard and Headsets maybe is overpriced with mediocre quality, so does most of "Gaming" Keyboard and "Gaming" headset, You're paying for branding than actual product. The only "gaming" Keyboard worth it is HE keyboard with Rapid Trigger like Wooting.

[@leohanley5935]

at least you get a better product than razer for less money

[@OneBrokeBloke]

@@dqskatt Well it is not true in Denmark. I don't know about other countries but here, both mice and keyboards are usually more expensive than the competitors. And it is still true, that we sell them with a much higher markup than the competitors. I don't know how you can claim that to be wrong, but I am not going to list our internal purchase prices

[@YurttheSilentChief1]

Them 8k copers are like Sony trying to push 8k resolution gaming

[@lion123z]

I’ve used the standard Harpe Ace for two years as my main Mac mouse. Honestly surprised me with how good it was to use.

[@hardlinenexus]

I'm glad you got paid for the production time. I mean we've had this discussion before as I was not getting paid for my reviews and such for years until recently that production time and effort is money, but your opinion should be kept straight. I love your disclaimer message, in fact, I'm gonna say pretty much just that moving forward in my videos. Great work.

[@REZY_]

“If you also have brain damage” LMAO, in all seriousness though its great to see Asus step their game up to something more enthusiast. I love the attention to detail in these especially the board. Great vid and loving the background. 💪🏽

[@OneBrokeBloke]

Im just not fan of my enthusiast hardware having "REPUBLIC OF GAMERS" on it. Im not even sure i would find it cool if i was 12

[@ChubiPanda]

I watch Badseed Tech in the same way I used to watch Top Gear. I'm never going to buy this kit but it's entertaining to watch the reviews.

[@VarjoPira]

Honestly, a dedicated mouse bag is a very nice add-on. If I'm paying anywhere above 80€ for a daily driver, I don' want no travel damage on it, small scratches included. Add some shine on the beard in the channel intro, Brian!

[@MrSheathknight]

imo the rgb looks a bit out of place but damn that carbon fiber looks AMAZING, still not going to cop, but it's cool

[@doubleoog8181]

As I mentioned on Boardzy's page, The ROG Harpe Ace Aim Lab Edition was the most disappointing mouse I bought last year. Not because the mouse was crappy, but because you were forced to use the Cancer that is ASUS Armoury-Crate. It's so bad that I went with a different Board maker for a recent build. Boardzy said that this version has its own software.

[@saiiiii8683]

Yes please! Review the azoth!!

[@PAIN-ot4cj]

These companies are out of touch ASUS charging ridiculous prices for mediocre products, glorious charging ludicrous prices for a keyboard that’s not worth that.

[@FcoEnriquePerez]

All of them have been paying the fucking game of "let's see how much these suckers will pay" with peripherals, it is our fault. There's no fucking way most of these should cost that much.

[@filosavage7475]

Steelseries hiding under a rock.

[@VarjoPira]

They wouldn't be making any if it were so. People are willing to pay.

[@BM5K007]

in your opinion...

[@geraldhidalgo717]

BUT, does it come with a warranty? HAHAHAHA

[@Gekko858]

Thank you! I appreciate your review!

[@WDannyboy]

Would love to see a review and test of the MMX 330 PRO. In theory its everything i would want in a gaming headset as my only complaint with the original MMX 300 was it was closed

[@bipolarkoolaid]

Great review! I always appreciate your production quality in your videos. This may be a "hot take" but I liked the darker lighting you used to use in your videos... Anyway, keep up the great work...

[@btupalski]

Love Ur reviewes!!❤❤❤

[@puertadlm163]

Currently running the ULX Tiger. But if it was a bit closer to that 40gram number I’d pick one up. My cousin is getting one so I can’t wait to compare them. But if I didn’t have my ULX this is what I’d be getting.

[@xythiera7255]

Why woud he ever get that 250$ mouse . I thoud Finalmouse has a trash cashgrap buisness model but Asus is next level give me money for nothing worth using

[@puertadlm163]

@@xythiera7255 one of the lightest mice on the market for that size. Yes there are lighter but those are small small small mice. This is one of the lightest medium mice there is.

[@Blue-cq2hl]

Lmao you got me with the "if you also have brain damage" Love the idea of boutique mice with more exotic materials or finishes over the constant rubber and plastic. I got my basilisk cerakote and it's perfect for the plastic but the rubber is still a problem. Something that won't wear down to skin friction would be premoum

[@turboxide]

prices are absurd but I really do appreciate rog taking risks and trying new things while still being in touch with what real gamers and enthusiasts want in a product. especially those hotswap mice switches, and things like that

[@doomdimensiondweller5627]

I was just watching bad seed tech when this came on. I also hope Bryan covers that new JDS atom stack like he said he would.

[@badseedtech]

I think its happening

[@doomdimensiondweller5627]

@@badseedtech Great to hear

[@LordBraim]

Would actually love a review from you on the Azoth. You’re the only keeb opinion I trust/care about since everyone else seems to play favorites to certain manufacturers/is too snobby about anyone who isn’t their preferred brand.

[@badseedtech]

I really want to do it anyway - not paid - bc there’s a lot to talk about and it looks/feels incredible in person

[@paskowitz]

​@@badseedtechI feel like the Azoth Extreme is doa without analog switches though. It's neither the ultimate gaming keyboard, nor the ultimate "luxury" keyboard. Just kinda somewhere in the middle. Again, seems like a product for the ROG super fan with a fat wallet and not a discerning consumer.

[@bearmanpig1130]

​@@badseedtechreally please do it. I really would appreciate it and I am loving your reviews on all of the stuff you're doing! I also am interested in learning if you would do a review on the rog delta 2?

[@Casperr]

I'd be interested to see how much weight they could save with a ~120mm version without RGB or Bluetooth

[@thebigdlu]

It ain't the arrow, it's the archer. But I purchase a lot of arrows 😂

[@histxmi9579]

Great vid man for all types of gaming and mice enthusiast! Can you also make a detailed video about the ROG Azoth Extreme keyboard? Like I get it it sounds nice, the build quality is great etc etc, but how does it compare with Wooting 80he in performance, features etc. Hope you would do it soon, would be very helpful!

[@eximious9102]

Thanks for the review, think I'll go for it haha Also, I'll be one to say I want to see your review for Azoth Extreme keyboard as Ive got one! Let me see your take on it! Cheers!😁

[@fallenlegion1828]

I might actually consider this seeing that I wouldn't need armory crate.. thank god..that's the best news I've heard from Asus.

[@CareBear-Killer]

man, that's a hefty price... when it eventually goes on clearance for $80 though, it might be a good buy!

[@MaliceDoll627]

2 reviews in less than a week? Now you're spoiling us Brian, great stuff as always

[@Wakiku]

So, harpe ace extreme and scope II 96 wireless or just the full size scope II (if TKL and mini keyboards are not your thing) are the top "Quality" go to for people with a premium budget, i guess? PS: I welcome better suggestions I'm just thinking out loud here.

[@Adrian-ep4qm]

If you're looking for the best competitive low latency peripherals the best is Keyboard = wooting 80he Mouse = Razer viper v3 pro These 2 can actually make you better at games if you already got a 360hz+ monitor

[@Wakiku]

@@Adrian-ep4qm what about a full size keyboard option in ur opinion? i'm also looking at 240 2k being the sweet spot atm

[@Pistaciio]

The AU/NZ branch sent one to me too…I almost shit bricks when I saw the price🥴

[@egaming2023]

I got the harpe ace extreme today very nice mouse, I already have the azoth I use it for my work PC, is the extreme noticeably better and worth the upgrade ?

[@barnisoos566]

2:37 what is that mouse pad😮

[@brokawmike]

At least they’re starting to get that we don’t want bloatware shit-tier bug ridden software. Not requiring armory crate is the only way I’d even remotely consider anything asus

[@rhizomaticdonut]

Incredible production quality. Must be using NASA cameras cos the picture is so clear. Cool review, too!

[@HoveKB]

A surprise video?! I’m here for it!

[@OnlyBiodegradeable]

Thoughts on the Logitech superlight dex?! I hopped they might have fixed the switches from the superlight 2, awesome video!

[@SHWT1M3]

You saw Sony dropped new monitors

[@saiiiii8683]

Ahh just made coffee and what could be better than a new upload!!

[@budthecyborg4575]

EGG OP18K weighs the same and is almost the same shape (length 9mm less, height 2mm less), and costs 3x less. Paying an extra $175 to get the same performance but wireless is pretty crazy, but I guess wireless is a big deal for some people.

[@brianbaker2062]

Would love to see your thought on that keyboard

[@Jcabby31]

for 250$ those stock tiny feet are criminal

[@badseedtech]

The initial design had skates that were 4ft x 4ft to give you your money’s worth, but then you needed bigger mouse pads and it turned into a whole thing

[@kasper_429]

Did you not see the giant Corning Gorilla Glass feet that are also included? Lol.

[@SumoGG]

More foot doesn't mean better mouse brother

[@Jcabby31]

@@SumoGG Company is clueless as to what people want. They make an inspector gadget product to catch all markets with an enormous price.

[@olivertrees]

@@Jcabby31 i think the price point is ridiculous, but what are they missing here?

[@funkmasterkirk]

Get that keyboard review on deck !!

[@WastingDrip]

please do a full review on the azoth extreme!

[@IMF1821]

Wish the extreme board was Hall effect.

[@FrankWhite95]

gimmick anyways.. i have it and i like it much more than my apex pro tkl 2023 with hall effect...

[@diogopadrao4118]

Great video, sorry to ask you this out of place but do you think, you will review the new Sony OLED 480hz screen? I am really curious if it is better than the Asus AQDP you reviewed before. Thank you in advance.

[@Rocket33r]

Less than 5gf difference between main buttons sounds a little high to me for something at this price point. I'd expect something like less than 3gf. Not a deal breaker, but also it makes me wonder what their tolerance is for their "regular" $159 mice.

[@Misfirem]

This mouse is cool as shit but that price is genuinely tough. I do appreciate that there are no compromises with this though which is cool to see. If companies can start doing this with a touch more reasonable prices this could be the future

[@badseedtech]

See I looked at it more like Asus just letting their product engineers go bananas with no regard for price point. I see a lot of products nerfed in some way bc it has to fit in a certain retail price tier. I like what they’ve done here by offering luxury versions of their standard product line. I don’t think you see much, if any, true performance benefit over the stock models - but the flex appeal is very high.

[@Misfirem]

@@badseedtechthat makes a lot of sense. I like it.

[@CarlosDeBernardMrAgapi]

Added on the calendar and yes the brain damage is hard jajaja thanks brother. nice video al always. i have no see it for now. look amazing. the keyboard i did check ......... ehh sorry. when you have the tech and is all in with all what a brand can do, and make, this is the 2 products what is call the above flagship. I am saving for the second version. since there are 3 version now including the CF one.

[@yilongma3795]

Feels useless when Akitsu exists

[@xythiera7255]

When every singel magnesium exist aka WL mouse

[@casull2041]

wlmouse carbon incoming, smaller op1 shape is what i'm after. But man that wireless za13 is also looking great 😂, decisions decisions...

[@whiterustt]

not everyone wants to have holes under their fingers when gripping a mouse my g

[@sorvex9]

cope, enjoy your swiss cheese plastic composite mouse AHAHAHAHAHA

[@whiterustt]

@@sorvex9 bro anything for my hands to be on a smooth surface hahah. plus that ROG mouser is carbon fibre so

[@Tomatobear8]

Can you do a video with your wooting 60he and new switches

[@leohanley5935]

badseed has to have one of the top 5 beards of all time

[@93Basje]

Are you also doing a superlight 2 DEX review? as you mentioned the mouse clicks in this video

[@ThatFoxStephan]

Having a spatha X and honestly it’s amazing:) very expensive but amazing

[@wesler218]

Do they make an ergo version?

[@TerminalzPain]

Really appreciate them letting you save configs to the mouse so the software can be uninstalled, unfortunately it's to expensive, just like the keyboard, or tbh most of Asus products.

[@VarjoPira]

That's why you filter the good ones, wait a couple months and get them on sale for actual value.

[@fiction3940]

Maybe they were denying all those warranty claims to help fund the development of this exotic mouse

[@FionatheFiend]

I pay out of pocket for all my parts so cost is one of the top factors with my decisions. I also do not have any health deficits where my arms, hands, and wrists can weight-bear normally so any mouse under 60g is incredibly lightweight to me and would not make any meaningful difference with my gaming experience. 8k polling rate is not something I can the difference with from 4k and even 2k. I have a 7950X3D and 4090 so my body is the limiting factor. Someone who proclaims they can tell the difference between 0.1 milliseconds is an individual who is up there with their level of entitlement and BS picky personality, therefore, should not be taken seriously by any normal person.

[@granttcg]

Get it on the calendar big guy! ✊🏽

[@genericpootis9811]

Hey BadSeed tech quick question have you had any hardware or software issues regarding armory crate herd it was bloatware and slowed down the computer and I thought about installing it for my motherboard for updates and rgb control?

[@LOLHICRONO]

ive used the keyboard but the price is insane. around $600 where i'm at

[@klwrpa]

Heavier switches than the Harpe Ace? No thank you. I had to return the Superlight 2 because it had heavier switches than the original.

[@eggnogsaber]

I'd love to see one of these with egg shape a button behind the mousewheel like G305

[@kasper_429]

I felt the self-cringe in that outro so much, lol. Dad jokes are awesome though.

[@magicmulder]

$249 is almost as much as either of my two custom "endgame" keyboards. I'm staying with my $100 trackball, thank you.

[@BoostedBill96]

I love this mouse. But the huge obnoxious branding is a hard deal breaker. DAV3 will continue to do

[@icehayuy]

The Ninjutso Sora V2 cost $100 and weighs 39grams with amazing build quality and great switches. In my opinion. You should consider reviewing one. I think it is currently the best all around mouse for price, performance, and weight. It also has online software so no armory crate. Which I think is the worst driver software of any main stream peripheral manufacturer.

[@hishamaru]

sora is good but i waited around 6weeks to get my so it depends on how much you need mouse right now

[@little_fluffy_clouds]

Armoury Crate Gear exists which is a lightweight version of Armory Crate and it’s not driver software: you run it, set your settings, it saves them to the mouse, then you quit it. It doesn’t stay resident in the background.

[@mcod99]

ASUS design engineers have been killing it with their work for mice and keyboards, too bad ASUS customer support and warranty issues let down the brand.

[@TOM7952]

The price is laughable considering how good the cheaper competition is. We've reached peak-mouse and now some of these companies are just seeing how badly they can rip people off.

[@ADR69]

Everybody gangsta until they need that RMA action and ASUS tells you to pay up or pound sand.

[@LordBraim]

Never in my life have I been to a video :11 after posting.

[@darrincheng771]

my custom 65% with gmk keycaps, artisans, and the works is less expensive than that keyboard. How do they justify it?

[@Highwaystar0]

Yea I leave most my 8k peripherals on 2k since there’s 0 gain afterwards

[@ineedyeezy]

Anyone know where that black/grey swirled deskpad is from?

[@rawrj]

My momma said my brain is real good.

[@katzicael]

What Asus should be focusing resources on - is their *Malware-level* software Armorycrate.

[@ChrisZhu-e5d]

Lift-off distance 是多少呢？

[@kylesanders9543]

I'd like to see the keyboard review 🙏

[@richardjung9562]

"so if u also have brain damage" haha to the point :D

[@Nuck-Fo0bZz]

$500 for a keyboard from Asus is wild.

[@MarkHsieh0501]

Review the Azoth Extreme!

[@riteshbokil9585]

if you also have brain damage had me ROFLMAO. :D

[@StaySic4Ever]

For sure very expensive. Better like for what it is in every way then. Not fan of sub-TKL myself. As for 8KHz though eventually for 1000Hz monitors it would be ideal, as it is to have polling numerous times higher then refresh rate.

[@kasper_429]

2:10 Deadmau5-ahh looking mouse feet 🤣🤣🤣🤣. Sorry, I had to, it was the first thing that came to my mind, and now you can't unsee it either.

[@badseedtech]

Honestly just mad I missed it lol. Fair play 🤝

[@kasper_429]

@@badseedtech Lol no problemo dude.

[@hastesoldat]

BadSeed Tech. The point of 8K was never the minuscule latency reduction. The visual difference the reduction in jitter amplitude makes is humanly visible. This is not up for debate. It is a fact that can and has been tested rigorously. I invite you to look at the scientific literature about this when you have the time.

[@badseedtech]

Strange that *every* brand markets the idea of it being faster and has never mentioned anything about jitter amplitude. You’d think the people designing and selling this tech would be better informed.

[@hastesoldat]

@@badseedtech That doesn't surprise me tbh. I don't know what I can link in YT comments but if you google "Do We Need a Faster Mouse? Empirical Evaluation of Asynchronicity-Induced Jitter", that paper is in open access. There is also a YT video available with the same title. If you have the time, there is a lot of interesting things to learn about the subject. Eventually you can get a good idea (if you calculate using the jitter model) of what to expect for a given frame/refresh rate, mouse speed and polling rate.

[@SumoGG]

250 and the 8k dongle sold separately is literally such a joke

[@maxmustermann7397]

Always go for optimal brain damage... 😀

[@CaptainBlitz]

I would love to see your review on the keyboard! ...but I wouldn't drop $500 on it by the way lmao

[@refragged]

Any chance you'll review the Asus ROG Falchion Ace HFX? If these product names get any longer I'm going to eat my own head.

[@PoLPaoPoL]

Product names... you mean like their ROG Strix Scope RX TKL Wireless Deluxe keyboard? 😂

[@66racer]

I wish they didn't make this mouse, I love CF so much I think I will need to buy it on that alone lol

[@cornpowder4425]

Why would I even consider this over the Lamzu Maya X?

[@Peter-gb4ey]

Please review the Lamzu Maya X

[@thestrangenessie2189]

Its not on amazon :/

[@IkYzzo]

I literally spat my drink back in the cup when I heard the price... such a joke, and they don't even make it in a small size half the people interested in mice can't even buy/use it.

[@tigerbalm666]

I NEED 4 SIDE BUTTONS! Not 6, just 4....WTF?

[@GGnext.crazycro]

Keychron HE for the win!

[@kasper_429]

6:15 "So, if you ALSO have brain damage..." 🤣🤣🤣🤣 I laughed WAY more than I should have at that, but I do have some brain damage, just not in that way. That's like uber-autism levels (I can make that joke because I'm like 90% sure that I'm on the spectrum somewhere).

[@MatanKarni]

As great as this piece of tech is, I just can't justify spending 250 dollars on a mouse that on serial production. I will stick with my Glorious model O for the time being :) Great review though 😊

[@_HugoQueiroz]

Asus ROG lineup is easily becoming my favorite of all big brands, not only are they pushing good products, but they react well to feedback. And they do that without sacrificing originality, they are trying to do their own thing.

[@VarjoPira]

ROG has its issues, but they're not stale at the very least. Same can't be said for many others.