Tudor Black Bay 41 a Half Price Rolex Submariner Alternative?

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Harrison Elmore

Harrison Elmore

Күн бұрын

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@frederikmiddelhoff6721
@frederikmiddelhoff6721 6 ай бұрын
I've had the opportunity to visit their factory in Le Locle, Switzerland. Quick correction: they don't send their movements to METAS, they have a dedicated METAS office in-house. They also have several robots making sure all watch movements surpass pre-COSC inspection to have as little rejection as possible. It really is an insanely smooth modern operation. It's a very nice watch, the latest monochrome Black Bay!
@RabbitWatchShop
@RabbitWatchShop 6 ай бұрын
I’m on Watch Crunch. Many have purchased the BB54, BB58, and the Pelagos 39. I have seen more people buy this 41mm monochrome than any Tudor watch currently available. Almost every day, a few people get one. Huge success for Tudor. It’s not for me, yet I recognize the tremendous value and beautiful design of the watch.
@borassictime918
@borassictime918 6 ай бұрын
I wish them ✌️selling their BB54, BB58 and P39, and when it comes to it the BB41, when they get the Rolex call any day now…
@RootBeerGMT
@RootBeerGMT 6 ай бұрын
Tudor is gross
@ballsteinyts
@ballsteinyts 6 ай бұрын
tudor today is more of what rolex was 50 years ago, and that’s a great thing
@LouisMorales-zx3jm
@LouisMorales-zx3jm 6 ай бұрын
Yes an Homage vintage rolex. Nothing original. Pass for me.
@jmichos
@jmichos 4 ай бұрын
It’s not a homage because they made their own subs back then anyway. I know because I’ve got one and I love it.
@rnunez70681
@rnunez70681 4 ай бұрын
@@ballsteinyts More like 20 years ago
@dkpewpew
@dkpewpew 3 ай бұрын
@@LouisMorales-zx3jmthey are not homages. Vintage Tudor subs uses the original sub oyster case and bracelet fyi. The only difference was the movement. Welcome to the game . Lol
@jaredstephenson6468
@jaredstephenson6468 7 күн бұрын
I don’t love Rolex but I love that you admit your level of superficiality and that you need it for yourself. You don’t shy away from your honest feelings and I appreciate that.
@rdvgrd6
@rdvgrd6 6 ай бұрын
I admit I can’t afford a Rolex, but honestly I prefer the more vintage and low key look of the Tudor. Plus you’re not going to get robbed in most places
@bigbearddahuzi1036
@bigbearddahuzi1036 6 ай бұрын
I dislike the fat lugs on the sub. I like the bezel on it better, but prefer the aluminum insert on the BB. I like the missing crown guards. Over all, I vastly prefer the BB to the sub
@key4duty
@key4duty 5 ай бұрын
A black Rolex sub no date is pretty lowkey aswell. The big problem is you see submariners everywhere. Both real and fake ones, it’s not a special watch at all, same with a speedmaster. Tudor’s seem to be more rare, I’ve still seen a lot of people wearing them. But not as much as a sub or speedmaster. So if you ever buy a Tudor watch, wear it with pride. They are reliable, durable and very accurate, subtle yet elegant. Tudor is what Rolex used to be!
@PatricksFinanzen
@PatricksFinanzen 2 ай бұрын
We actually have several Rolex watches, but I always loved the BlackBay since its first launch over 10 years ago. And yesterday I finally ordered one.
@ZachGrabill
@ZachGrabill 6 ай бұрын
Absolutely spot on video. If you want a Sub because YOU want it, a Tudor will not scratch that itch. If you want a Sub because you want OTHER people to know you have a Sub, a Tudor won’t do that. I think the latter is sad, but it’s humanity and who am I to judge. Get what you want at a price you can afford. If you can’t afford what you want, save until you can. And life is too damn short to worry if other people think you’re poor because you’re wearing a watch that doesn’t have a crown on it.
@HarveyHanerfeld
@HarveyHanerfeld 6 ай бұрын
I just bought the Tudor BB monochrome a month ago and have worn it every day since. Fabulous watch and I would rather own it than a modern day sub. I own a 16610 sub, Tudor Ranger and the original Omega Aqua Terra. This Tudor is just terrific and not a compromise purchase. It is a great value, wears great and the 5 link bracelet is a contrast to the rest of the collection.
@DocMulholland
@DocMulholland 5 ай бұрын
Congrats, sounds like a very nice collection 👏🏼
@lancesheffield1212
@lancesheffield1212 4 ай бұрын
Just bought my Tudor Black Bay Monchrome 41 and absolutely Love it. I do not fell the slightest bit remorseful about the $6,000 I have leftover from not buying a Submariner, I tried to buy a Submariner and they wanted to play hard to get. I'm not going to wrestle you to take my money-give it to someone else...I needed a new Les Paul anyway.
@cmatz175
@cmatz175 6 ай бұрын
When this was released there was absolutely no urge for me to want it at all because I already have the 41 submariner. I have also owned 6 different tudors and love tudor. What you said about the submariner being more like jewelry than merely a watch is spot on... However its the iconic tool watch that is built rugged and robust yet has that air of luxury that Rolex has perfected. The rolex itch for me didnt die after the sub. I ended up also getting the 40mm explorer and I am lusting hard for the two-tone silver and gold sub.
@cmatz175
@cmatz175 5 ай бұрын
@@tinystacker HAHAHA thats why my G-Shock is my vacation watch. That and my FXD. Dont want my wrist marking me for possible crimes!
@danwallis3706
@danwallis3706 6 ай бұрын
I own both and I can honestly say the Tudor is a great watch, but the fit and finish and overall quality of the Rolex is superior. With that said for the money the Tudor is a win!
@bogarbill6331
@bogarbill6331 5 ай бұрын
Sold all my Rolex watches and went for Tudor. I never went back. Bought this one as well and loving it every day! I don't want to be seen with Rolex anymore, too obvious. Tudor has much more understated style..
@laurentdub8513
@laurentdub8513 5 ай бұрын
🤣🤣🤣
@ChrisAlvarezAlvarezImaging
@ChrisAlvarezAlvarezImaging 6 ай бұрын
I just think they will do a BB58 version at some point, and then we'll go through this all over again haha.
@HarrisonElmore
@HarrisonElmore 6 ай бұрын
Probably!
@Andrew-yy2ye
@Andrew-yy2ye 6 ай бұрын
Harrison you are so wrong about METAS first they test the cased up whole watch over two weeks in six different angles and a whole other lot of tests were as the usual test done too standed BB and Rolex,they only test the movement uncased, the METAS testing is way more in-depth than cost testing
@HarrisonElmore
@HarrisonElmore 6 ай бұрын
@@Andrew-yy2yetake a look at two videos I made. The one on METAS going over each test and the one where I put my Explorer through COSC testing.
@Andrew-yy2ye
@Andrew-yy2ye 6 ай бұрын
@@HarrisonElmore I will have a look Harrison thanks
@tomlabarb2640
@tomlabarb2640 6 ай бұрын
You cant go wrong with the Sub.... even if you change your mind you sell it for the same or more than you paid... rather than the money sitting in the bank you get to enjoy it on your wrist and it basically never loses value.
@key4duty
@key4duty 6 ай бұрын
Unless you get mugged lol. I avoid cities with my watches. I rather wear something simple then putting my life at risk, just not worth it.
@tinystacker
@tinystacker 5 ай бұрын
No one is selling a sub for more than they paid in this current market
@jaykraft9523
@jaykraft9523 2 ай бұрын
I've had an Invicta Submariner which looks as close to the Rolex as the Tudor. Cost about $50, got it 10 years ago, still works perfect
@u.u.u9969
@u.u.u9969 6 ай бұрын
Now that I own a Sub I can’t help but see how most watches end links don’t fit flush to the watch head. The lighting shadows be off
@rnunez70681
@rnunez70681 6 ай бұрын
To me, this is the true successor of the 14060M. The 124060 is now a luxury tool watch, I couldn't really see myself wearing it and enjoying it with complete carelessness and disregard for possible dings as I would with the Tudor. I'm sure I would tend to baby it and worry about it a little too much. That's completely the opposite of enjoying a watch.
@siddhant46s54
@siddhant46s54 6 ай бұрын
@@rnunez70681 the Rolex 124060 is the perfect Submariner evolution and the perfect daily watch . You’re just not rich enough to not give a shit about a Sub and daily it that’s the real problem lol
@rnunez70681
@rnunez70681 6 ай бұрын
@@siddhant46s54 I may not be filthy rich, but I've been lucky enough to have own several rolexes during the last 25 years or so, and yes, maybe I do think about the cost of it and I tend to be careful with them, after all I came from very little and I never thought I would be able to drop thousands and thousands on a watch. How about you? Are you so rich that you don't think twice about bashing a 10k watch? How many rolexes do you/have you owned?
@teammacnamara5320
@teammacnamara5320 6 ай бұрын
If this was any other brand other than Tudor then this watch would have been brushed aside as a Submariner homage. You’re right, anyone who wants a Rolex in their heart who buys this won’t be satisfied. Most of us have been there and you end up buying the Rolex in the end. There seems to be a stigma about admitting to liking Rolex. I love Rolex, and for me nothing else so far compares to Rolex at around the 10k and under mark. It’s all about how it makes YOU feel wearing your watch, and Rolex has always made me feel great!
@SIZZO76
@SIZZO76 6 ай бұрын
You speak truth my friend. TUDOR is trash 😂😂😂😂😂😂 and a FAKE ROLEX😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
@fontyyy
@fontyyy 6 ай бұрын
I have a Submariner, in fact I have four of them, and I still want one of these. So, you're wrong and I'll wager you have neither.
@Lee-pf2uv
@Lee-pf2uv 6 ай бұрын
@@fontyyyyou are one specific example who thinks differently. Doesn’t make this wrong. I agree and not just with watches. If you have your heart set on something then an alternative will often not fill the void long term. In your case you have Subs already so a Tudor is not filling the void. For someone else without one Sub (let alone 4) is potentially filling a void if they really do what that Rolex. If done it with watches, cars, tech, clothes, shoes etc. buy an alternative instead for whatever reason and eventually that original thing you truly wanted will come back into your mind. It’s just how most (maybe not you) people’s minds work.
@notyourtypicalwatchreview2563
@notyourtypicalwatchreview2563 6 ай бұрын
I agree. The little voice in the back of your head always says, “But, it’s not a Rolex.” I have admitted to myself that, yes, I want a Rolex.
@tinystacker
@tinystacker 5 ай бұрын
Tudor has been making the Submariner since the 50s, so they can and do tap into that history since Rolex doesn't. Saying Tudor is a "wanna be Rolex" is just ignorance, especially now a days. If I want a Rolex I'll buy a Rolex. If I want a Omega I'll buy an Omega, and if I want a Tudor I'll buy a Tudor. All of these are affordable if you make a decent salary, and a couple grand one way or another doesn't make much of a difference.
@martina6212
@martina6212 6 ай бұрын
I love Rolex but honestly in my head when I think of the type of person that wears them it’s usually some dude with his first arm tattoo that has never been punched in the face because he threatens to sue anyone that is about to.
@puaishibashi4396
@puaishibashi4396 5 ай бұрын
LOL, good one lol
@OUD4444
@OUD4444 4 ай бұрын
Oddly accurate
@divertiti
@divertiti 2 ай бұрын
That's some very specific projection and prejudice
@martina6212
@martina6212 2 ай бұрын
@@divertiti how many arm tattoos do you have? Tribal I’m assuming. Possibly a dragon or a lion. Maybe all 3.
@Assureddominance
@Assureddominance Ай бұрын
You know how many special operations guys rock a Rolex. I’m law enforcement and I wear one every day. A fake one.
@user-fe5uh2bi2t
@user-fe5uh2bi2t 6 ай бұрын
That U in the METAS movement reference is in fact a magnet to stress the antimagnetic properties of the movement. It’s not a U.
@key4duty
@key4duty 6 ай бұрын
Black bay monochrome is stunning, but the sub is even better. That’s why I didn’t get it. 0:30 But Tudor’s price is unmatched. Bought the Tudor Black Bay 58 GMT, I really vintage get vibes from it. Gloss burgundy/black bezel with gilt accents. Looks absolutely stunning in person, much better than in photos and videos!
@Julian_O91
@Julian_O91 6 ай бұрын
The best Submariner alternative, is for the Pelagos39 with the Grownguards.
@TheFuturisticVintage
@TheFuturisticVintage 6 ай бұрын
Great review Harrison! Love this new monochrome.
@markwilliams4274
@markwilliams4274 24 күн бұрын
I have a 39mm Peli I absolutely love it.I'm quite tempted to go for the BB on the jubilee as getting my hands on a no date Sub is very unlikely plus the price of it is bordering insanity.
@calsbike17
@calsbike17 3 ай бұрын
Just got the BB41 Burgundy and opted for the 3 links strap, for me it’s not a super flashy watch, just looks a good size on the wrist and well made. The jubilee style bracelets don’t suit the watch in my opinion. 👍
@CDF961
@CDF961 5 ай бұрын
Great review. I myself only new to Tudor am now on my second order within their brand. Love my BB58 and now going Pel. Love their watches and great services from the Ad i use. I would recommend to anyone a Tudor.
@comeonman7423
@comeonman7423 6 ай бұрын
I feel like everytime a new black dial Tudor comes along it’s compared as the alternative to the sub..
@denniskai2331
@denniskai2331 6 ай бұрын
If they made two updates - it would be a slam dunk for Tudor ... change Tudor to 904L steel (looks bettter) and add a ceramic bezel. The cost of those changes would probably be less than $100.
@aioka1435
@aioka1435 6 ай бұрын
Pelagos 39 ? Titanium, ceramic bezel...
@denniskai2331
@denniskai2331 6 ай бұрын
@@aioka1435 I love the 39 ... ihmo, the only mistakes they made was that the hour markers are slightly too small and its got 21mm lug width. I've almost pulled the trigger several times (and may still)
@tinystacker
@tinystacker 5 ай бұрын
Disagree on the ceramic bezel for this model, but the 904L/Oystersteel would be nice
@AK-jl5xt
@AK-jl5xt 3 ай бұрын
Agree but no chance they’d upgrade to oystersteel.
@barryvercueil2346
@barryvercueil2346 6 ай бұрын
Awesome watch. I just wish they would brush the sides. Cheers.
@localgearhead
@localgearhead 6 ай бұрын
Man if they make a Blue BB58 with a Jubilee, T-Fit and METAS my wallet is gonna have a field day
@DialsandCrowns
@DialsandCrowns 6 ай бұрын
That is the EXACT watch I am waiting for..........honestly just a blue bb58 with t fit
@laurentdub8513
@laurentdub8513 5 ай бұрын
Totaly agree. A bb58, jubilé, T fit and METAS... Masterclass !!!😅
@sjtsrbkk
@sjtsrbkk 6 ай бұрын
If we focus on price and alternative, Tudor BB is still way expensive. We have Seiko, Casio, and Swatch. All these are well designed and can accurately tell time at crazily lower price. But if we are talking about brand level, luxury, and assets that can store value in longer term or even deliver profits, Rolex is Rolex. I mean if you want a watch cheaper than Rolex, many choices out there. But if you want a Rolex, there is no alternatives. And don't get me wrong, I also own a Tudor and I don't compare it to Rolex. Tudor is Tudor. Tudor is great in its own way.
@ganck1147
@ganck1147 6 ай бұрын
Well said man
@melissasmess2773
@melissasmess2773 6 ай бұрын
So, did you buy your Tudor because it looks similar to a Rolex? 😂
@lomadonkey
@lomadonkey 6 ай бұрын
Tudor is really expensive. They are just cheaper then Rolex, they pull each other. You can get a Mido for 1k so a Tudor for 4-5k is not cheap at all. Still they have their good position in the market it seems.
@sjtsrbkk
@sjtsrbkk 6 ай бұрын
@@melissasmess2773 I can’t tell so. I also have other watches from other brands. I just like each item itself. We mention Tudor and Rolex just because this clip is about them.
@Assureddominance
@Assureddominance Ай бұрын
You could change the hands and bezel insert for less then a grand if you can do it yourself.
@maitrehg
@maitrehg 6 ай бұрын
The BB Monochrome is the best Tudor yet. Pure perfection on the wrist. Timeless elegance and the perfect size for a men sport watch.
@WatchMalaya
@WatchMalaya 6 ай бұрын
This is a no-brainer. They’re both different.
@djr4840
@djr4840 6 ай бұрын
No, it’s not a submariner. It’s not a bad watch at all! But it’s too thick, 60 click bezel and a great but not quite Oyster level bracelet. I felt my 124060 was a bit too flashy at times and if I were to wear a diver everyday, this may be it. The Jubilee bracelet is interesting though!
@ViolinistWilliam
@ViolinistWilliam 6 ай бұрын
Really blows your mind how different this looks from the Sub in real life, and how similar they can look in photos. Pictures lie, my friends…
@le2273
@le2273 6 ай бұрын
I tried on the 41mm monochrome and it’s still a chunky monkey …
@Andy-is
@Andy-is 4 ай бұрын
Do you think the blue will be updated to MT-5602-U just like this or red? It seems like the blue and green are the ones without the new Metas movement and thicker than the rest at 14.7 mm vs 13.6 and 22mm bracelet vs 21?
@HarrisonElmore
@HarrisonElmore 4 ай бұрын
Probably with maybe a dial color change too. We’ll see. Given they don’t have to change the movement at all just spend money to send it through METAS, I’d imagine it’s a no brainer
@MartinGarthwaite
@MartinGarthwaite 4 ай бұрын
I am picking the BB 41 mono and the BB 58 GMT tomorrow, to fund I will sell my ceramic sub. I have a hulk and Kermit so I am not getting out of subs but Tudor are so good.
@rodrigootavio534
@rodrigootavio534 6 ай бұрын
For me this model should have the ceramic bezel instead the aluminum, just like the Pelagos.
@rimaarts
@rimaarts 4 ай бұрын
Im curious, how easy is ton scratch bezel? I have aquaracer ceramic bezel. Looks as new. I have huawei smartwatch ceramic bezel, looks as new. I had 2 samsung smartwatches with metal bezels and by the end of second year they looked just terrible...
@allenfazer
@allenfazer 6 ай бұрын
This is a beautiful watch, and it is very similar to the Submariner in looks, but it’s a Tudor and a Rolex is a Rolex. Buy what you like, if it’s a submariner you want just wait a little longer and save because this watch will not satisfy that itch! And you’ll end up wanting the submariner anyhow and loose money on this watch when you decide to sell it to fund the Submariner.
@Dodedrommer
@Dodedrommer 6 ай бұрын
Tudor is a brand rolex uses to try and test new things they are working on, rather than testing it with the more expesive brand,where the rist is alot higher if it fails. Tudor is also the only company that offers a watch cased in sterling silver.
@frederikmiddelhoff6721
@frederikmiddelhoff6721 6 ай бұрын
No it's not. Tudor is operating seperately under the Rolex umbrella. Rolex is not involved in their daily operations. They do benefit from production line techniques coming from Rolex, but other than that, they run things on their own.
@chrismyers5532
@chrismyers5532 4 ай бұрын
Looks like my old issued Tudor Submariner except for the lack of crown guard.
@musabmohammed5423
@musabmohammed5423 6 ай бұрын
Any real watch enthusiasts will see and appreciate value and quality especially when you want to actually be able to walk into a store and buy the damn watch want and not wait years. I see way more value in brands other than Rolex, especially Tudor. For the price its amazing. And I think once you cross $5000 - $6000 your basically paying for name in some cases.
@dtroutmann
@dtroutmann 6 ай бұрын
So if you ignore the most important part of the watch which is the movement and the fact that it is Metas certified therefore giving it a higher rate than the cost certification of a Rolex it's actually a nicer watch for less money
@billhart
@billhart 6 ай бұрын
To each his/her own. I've had my BB Monochrome on a 3-link bracelet and love it enough that I've sold my Submariner 124060. The Sub was always a little "off" for me. Too much bling with the ceramic bezel. This watch is just the right amount of subdued for me and the T-clasp is game changing (spoiled by the Rolex Glide Lock). Stop by your local AD and see what you think. For me, I just put $4500 USD in my pocket ;)
@hansakselos4636
@hansakselos4636 6 ай бұрын
The P39 has noticeable shorter L2L than the BB58, so in my opinion the P39 is way of the feel of the Sub. Feels more in between the 58 and the 54. The BB41 and the Sub have both 40,5mm bezels. Feels very alike on wrist. The Black Bay 41 is not lighter than the Sub, it’s slightly heavier, at least when both are on oyster.
@TheDudleyJames
@TheDudleyJames 2 ай бұрын
Love my BB 41 Burgundy. Beautiful watch
@isluderea8322
@isluderea8322 6 ай бұрын
If you buy a Tudor because your Dreamwatch is as Rolex, after some time, you will not be satisfied and will regret it.
@MrDucatiti
@MrDucatiti 6 ай бұрын
I agree. At the end of the day, never settle.
@mkyhou1160
@mkyhou1160 6 ай бұрын
That is the issue with Tudor in a nutshell. On the other hand, it plays in Tudor’s favour as this mistake keeps repeating.
@DaemonViews
@DaemonViews 4 ай бұрын
@@mkyhou1160people also realize after getting a Rolex that this has a real wrist time spot where a Rolex wouldn't work. Going on holiday to Japan or UAE, sure take a Rolex. Going to travel in France or Italy? Don't take a Rolex... At least I'm not. And it's not the money I care. Sure, losing 10k sucks. But you then have to go grey to get one again quickly and thus pay more. Not forgetting that the part that it's taken from you might be highly unpleasant
@gavinwhite9743
@gavinwhite9743 6 ай бұрын
This watch wonders heavily into homage territory. It then looks expensive when viewed in that light. Subs are widely available, near MSRP. The modern sub is a beautiful watch, and the 20 year old 14060m watch can give old vibes with a modern movement, 40mm case, and they are going for only a 2k more than the Tudor. A 20 year old sub will also likely hold its value better.
@vincenttadealao682
@vincenttadealao682 6 ай бұрын
Great video and comparison man, thank you! I'm still very happy with my P39. I honestly see the P39 as more versatile since I can throw it on a nato and take it on holiday trips without is grabbing too much attention. It's just the perfect do it all watch, to me :). When it comes down to the Black bay Monochrome I would be too conscious about al the glitter and glammer, but heck, what a beautiful watch that is! Have a good one!
@TimeBaum
@TimeBaum 6 ай бұрын
Excellent review! I really like that the monochrome gives a more affordable Submariner alternative and holds to the older sub style of being more toolish in looks. I'd probably snag the monochrome if I didn't already have the burgundy model.
@Jack.K.07032
@Jack.K.07032 6 ай бұрын
Can you compare the San Martin SN017, SN019, SN084, SN0111 ? What's the difference? Which is the newest? Which is the best?
@HarrisonElmore
@HarrisonElmore 6 ай бұрын
I would have to get my hands on all of those. Might be difficult!
@nedhourani
@nedhourani 6 ай бұрын
Hello, I believe the Lug Width (Outside) is mixed up, the Rolex Sub appears wider than the Tudor. 🤷🏻‍♂️🙌🏼
@melissasmess2773
@melissasmess2773 6 ай бұрын
What if you have an exact copy of a gold Rolex President day-date, would you wear it?
@patrik3450
@patrik3450 6 ай бұрын
I wouldn’t get the black but the burgundy, it’s way more uniquely Tudor. I don’t want my watch to say wannabe Rolex or a Rolex. I don’t want to get robbed.
@ilmaril8432
@ilmaril8432 6 ай бұрын
Preferring more shine and less toolyness one should mention also those steel bezel Black Bays.
@onedirection3510
@onedirection3510 5 ай бұрын
Not to mention the endless “..nice sub..ohhh wait is that a sub? Ohhh haha ok yeah..” 😅
@jamesminshall4601
@jamesminshall4601 6 ай бұрын
I don’t think anyone has actually said that about metas on KZbin, well done. It’s especially ridiculous when they use the same movement. I agree with a lot off what you said but was surprised about your description about the size. Until It comes with a date function I can’t get excited. The main thing I disagree about is shiny bits adding interest. It adds something but for me it’s not a positive but that’s a taste thing and we are all different. That said if I bought one I might ask someone for a jubilee bracelet for Christmas so I could swap from the oyster one and experience the bling.
@Matt-uq3in
@Matt-uq3in 6 ай бұрын
I have the sub in my collection never had the Tudor I'm not fan of the hand set but that might grow on you as you wear it 👍
@scollyutube
@scollyutube 6 ай бұрын
It's a 'Sub'stitute, only. Tudor could have done the BB58 this colour years ago but......
@comeonman7423
@comeonman7423 6 ай бұрын
Would love to know the wearability of the sub compared to the other Tudor watches, thanks
@ganck1147
@ganck1147 6 ай бұрын
A friend of mine owns both the sub & a Tudor BB58 but prefers wearing the BB58 citing comfort as the reason.
@defrev
@defrev 6 ай бұрын
Tudor's a great brand, and they make great watches, but there's really no substitute for a Rolex, or a Sub. Enjoyed the video.
@CorneliusRushtie
@CorneliusRushtie 6 ай бұрын
Omega Smp 300. Kills the chewda, and much better value for money than the rolex sub, and they can be bought.
@CarlosGambino_22
@CarlosGambino_22 6 ай бұрын
tudor way over hyped
@rafaeloliva6425
@rafaeloliva6425 6 ай бұрын
​@CorneliusRushtie I appreciate your opinion, but Omega is what people consider when they can't afford or get their hands on a sub. No other dive/sports can match the versatility, iconic status, or value retention the sub enjoys. Thats just the facts. But, to each their own.
@CorneliusRushtie
@CorneliusRushtie 6 ай бұрын
@rafaeloliva6425 happen to own a 126613LB and an smp 300. The omega gets more wrist time, hands down.
@rafaeloliva6425
@rafaeloliva6425 6 ай бұрын
@@CorneliusRushtie I'm happy for you. Wear what floats your boat. But facts are facts. Cheers
@AulioD
@AulioD 6 ай бұрын
Will this watch hold its value?
@winduncan9818
@winduncan9818 5 ай бұрын
The nice thing about the BB is 2 years from now it's a sub 3k watch. Where the Submariner is still unobtainable to most of us.
@MrZanzibar123
@MrZanzibar123 6 ай бұрын
Good review, thoughtful and insightful.
@HarrisonElmore
@HarrisonElmore 6 ай бұрын
Thank you kindly!
@Zi_Ga
@Zi_Ga 6 ай бұрын
where can we get starbucks rolex for 12k?
@lomadonkey
@lomadonkey 6 ай бұрын
Haha you can discuss this forever. The Rolex Submariner and the Tudor Submariner had the same design in the 1950s, since the 1960/70s their design went on different paths. Nowadays the former Tudor Submariner developed to Tudor Black Bay and Pelagos. They are simply in different price categories positioned brands, like Swatch does it with e.g. Longines and Omega.
@GapBahnDirk
@GapBahnDirk 4 ай бұрын
I will keep my Black Bay 58, black dial gilt For a diver with a bit of flash, I prefer the Seiko SLA071 at 30% of the price of a Submariner.
@ericfoucher1175
@ericfoucher1175 6 ай бұрын
Excellent review, as always! I'm here because I've been on the waiting list for a Rolex Submariner No Date for two years. This new release from Tudor really piques my interest. However, I've tried to scratch the Submariner itch before with a Pelagos 39, which I ended up selling just six months later. Now, I think I'll just keep waiting for the Submariner.
@SIZZO76
@SIZZO76 6 ай бұрын
Nothing beats a Rolex. Tudor is trash 🗑️ 😂😂😂😂😂
@metro2171
@metro2171 6 ай бұрын
Wait for the sub the others although great watches, will definitely not scratch your hitch
@rafaeloliva6425
@rafaeloliva6425 6 ай бұрын
@SIZZO76 Dude, I roll with Rolex. Your correct, there's no substitute for a sub or a gmt. But that doesn't make Tudor trash.
@SIZZO76
@SIZZO76 6 ай бұрын
@@rafaeloliva6425 IS THIS BETTER 😂😂 TUDOR IS A FAKE ROLEX😂😂😂😂😂
@rafaeloliva6425
@rafaeloliva6425 6 ай бұрын
Personally, I would not buy a Tudor. I have 2 Rolexes in my collection, be because I enjoy wearing them. But, I do not get off on feeling superior to other who don't. Life is short and I don't waste time trashing what other choose to wear what they like or an afford. So I don't get the hate. Your entitled to your opinion, but I have no interest in getting into a pissing contest with a troll like you. Seriously, it seems like you need a hug and a hobby. Cheers.
@elefantrising
@elefantrising 6 ай бұрын
The more I see these watches the more I like my Ti Pam not only becuase it is different but it also interesting to me funny enough it was basically a Rolex at one point.
@ahsan101
@ahsan101 6 ай бұрын
I prefer the look of the black bay 54 over this and the Rolex submariner.
@yarna1976
@yarna1976 5 ай бұрын
Nice watch. Only issue is, it isn’t a sub!!!!😂
@aljack1979
@aljack1979 5 ай бұрын
It should have a ceramic bezel... Then I'm all in on that jubilee
@FightGenius98
@FightGenius98 6 ай бұрын
How’s the build quality compare?
@HarrisonElmore
@HarrisonElmore 6 ай бұрын
Great as always with Tudor. Tight tolerances. Good fit and feel.
@Dazulolwarrior
@Dazulolwarrior 6 ай бұрын
rolex is obviously better but it's not double the price of tudor better imo
@comeonman7423
@comeonman7423 6 ай бұрын
@@Dazulolwarrioror triple if you consider it’s difficult to buy a sub at retail or even more if you can get the Tudor at a discount soon.
@Dazulolwarrior
@Dazulolwarrior 6 ай бұрын
​@@comeonman7423 theyre starting to play games with tudor as well for their popular models Shit just sucks in general, though i dont have a say as i was able to get my no date sub from an AD and it took me 5 months.
@CircassianRider
@CircassianRider 6 ай бұрын
Great review
@HarrisonElmore
@HarrisonElmore 6 ай бұрын
Thanks!
@puaishibashi4396
@puaishibashi4396 5 ай бұрын
I think the Pelagos 39 is closer to the Rolex sub than this watch. When the Pelagos grows up to a 42 I will be jumping on it as my Rolex sub killer :)
@frank327
@frank327 6 ай бұрын
Good review!
@Milofchg
@Milofchg 6 ай бұрын
Once it gets crown guards (which it needs) then it will be more like a Tudor Sub. I hope they add crown guards. That would be a true Black Bay Pro.
@b_altmann
@b_altmann 6 ай бұрын
The FXD is its own thing, so that’s nice about it.
@dropthebag
@dropthebag 6 ай бұрын
Good video man
@HarrisonElmore
@HarrisonElmore 6 ай бұрын
Appreciate it
@taham33
@taham33 6 ай бұрын
5k with an aluminium insert is crazy
@siddhant46s54
@siddhant46s54 6 ай бұрын
@@taham33 factss , i honestly don’t get the concept of wanting an aluminium bezel just because it ages and fades with time and that they want to wear a watch in the future which looks aged lol . I want my watches to look top class and brand spanking new for years to come , ceramic bezels are the way to go!
@taham33
@taham33 6 ай бұрын
@@siddhant46s54 to be fair I like aluminium inserts better than ceramic, but I wouldnt pay that much money for a diver with an aluminum bezel
@tinystacker
@tinystacker 5 ай бұрын
I mean a 14060m commands 10k+ with its aluminum insert
@taham33
@taham33 5 ай бұрын
@@tinystacker and what do you think is my opinion on that
@bigmacdaddy1234
@bigmacdaddy1234 6 ай бұрын
Rolex had an opportunity to give us a new Tudor Submariner. All they had to do was write the word on the dial. But instead, they gave us the same old Black Bay crap instead. Yawn. Is this the best the most famous watch company in the world can do? Really?
@kaladze09
@kaladze09 6 ай бұрын
Don’t you get it?! It’s done on purpose! Rolex wants you to buy the one and only Sub
@bigmacdaddy1234
@bigmacdaddy1234 6 ай бұрын
@@kaladze09 But it's not available.
@vipnetworker
@vipnetworker 6 ай бұрын
Tudor or Omega?
@siddhant46s54
@siddhant46s54 6 ай бұрын
The lug to lug on the bb41 is visibly larger and also reported in other reviews as 50mm so do check the dimensions again cuz its most likely wrong
@MrMarkallwood
@MrMarkallwood 6 ай бұрын
It’s reported as 50 but it is actually 49mm so guess 48.5 might be close enough. It’s also sold as 41 but it is 40.5. Tudor basically rounds up.
@shaheenevans
@shaheenevans 6 ай бұрын
Timely look at both 👌🏻
@jamesincharlotte
@jamesincharlotte 6 ай бұрын
Our wrist are same size. The BB 54 or The BB 41 you prefer ?
@HarrisonElmore
@HarrisonElmore 6 ай бұрын
The 41 probably or 58 wear very well. They all wear well to be honest so it’s sort of a preference of dial size and real estate on your wrist
@doctorcatnip2551
@doctorcatnip2551 5 ай бұрын
You do no that you can get a Invicta Pro Diver for $80. Right? That's not half, that's 1/150 of the price of a submariner and the two watches look almost the same. 😂
@aioka1435
@aioka1435 6 ай бұрын
Simple : YES ! (and I had a 14060m)
@vipnetworker
@vipnetworker 6 ай бұрын
Tudor or Cartier Santos?
@Wu.Tang.Financial
@Wu.Tang.Financial 6 ай бұрын
Tudors are a stellar bargain, but this one to me is too much of a sub. If you want the icon that is the sub then this won’t scratch the itch. I like the 58 and 54 because they have vintage aesthetic and proportions the sub doesn’t. The Pelagos has its own more spartan tool watch flair that’s interesting. This feels like seeing a tribute band instead of the real thing. It’s a cool watch on its own, love the bracelet and the price and not having to put up with Rolex dealership shenanigans but this release just leaves me a bit cold
@marlonr391
@marlonr391 6 ай бұрын
Tudor watches exceptional, You can't seriously compare The two, Rolex has its lane £6000 upwards. Tudor also has its lane £1500 - £5000 i think. None of the two brands are cheap Tudor has a solid movement and build quality. Everyone has there budget, you can turn up with your batman on and we no there's people out there who would buy that not for them but for there wife to wear. Different levels
@joshuabriggs7114
@joshuabriggs7114 6 ай бұрын
The heart wants what the heart wants.
@paulvon2378
@paulvon2378 2 ай бұрын
50% off is assuming you can get a Sub at retail price. It's really 80% of more off Rolex price
@comeonman7423
@comeonman7423 6 ай бұрын
Thank you for the content. A sub will always be a sub and nothing will substitute. The monochrome is excellent in its own right along with many other Tudor divers but for me the Omega Seamaster comes the closest.
@galaman12001
@galaman12001 6 ай бұрын
Got to love the Seamaster, perfect alternative to the sub.
@dertolledaniel
@dertolledaniel 6 ай бұрын
I disagree. The Seamaster is a nice watch, but apart from the indices and the fact that they both have a bezel, the two watches have nothing in common. Its a completely different design language.
@SIZZO76
@SIZZO76 6 ай бұрын
I agree. SEAMASTER is a goat 🐐 watch🔥🔥🔥🔥
@melissasmess2773
@melissasmess2773 6 ай бұрын
I wear my Seamaster Railmaster, with denim dial, on a $15 blue NATO strap, it's perfection dressed down, nobody who isn't interested in watches even notices it. 😂
@pasquale78
@pasquale78 6 ай бұрын
6:10 good luck explaining that to the misses. ;)
@laurentdub8513
@laurentdub8513 5 ай бұрын
13.6mm of tickness... Impossible to compare with a sub. 😅
@robynsjp
@robynsjp 6 ай бұрын
Tudor is not me, as for Rolex Sub, yes but it’s a 1967 5513. I cant do anything with a modern one.
@rampantcolt
@rampantcolt 4 ай бұрын
How is the Tudor not a submariner, when it’s literally the 1953 Rolex submariner with a duller dial and bezel? It runs Master Chronometer which is better than COSC. It just doesn’t go as deep to 1000ft. Same watch.
@appleman29
@appleman29 6 ай бұрын
what is this youtube layout... why did youtube change it
@akhossain
@akhossain Ай бұрын
No Object is ever worth waiting in line for when you already have the money. I’m sick and tired of watch companies being hyped for no reason whatsoever
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