How Voldemort Made His Horcruxes (2 THEORIES) - Harry Potter Theory

[@wildefice1]

Harry in the chamber would not have been able to come back, because Dumbledore stated that Harry was able to come back in the forest, was that Harry had resolved to not defend himself. Meanwhile at the moment the snake bit Harry, Harry was fighting to survive. So I am pretty sure Harry would have been dead, dead. Also on an unrelated note, I find it fascinating that Salazars monster is responsible for destroying almost every Horcrux through its venom post-humously. Maybe it's a subtle way of saying Salazar would have actually rejected Voldemort, since he is an abomination that was created from a love potion , so not only is he a half blood, but not even a true human, as well as a coward that ran from death, rather than confronting it.

[@esoswanky5693]

I think so too ..

[@paulhuthmann8824]

Yeah now that you mention it I think you are completely right about that.

[@lxena8033]

No, Harry was able to come back because Voldermort used Harry's blood to build his body back. He took Lily's protection into his new body. Which meant, as long as Voldermort lived, Harry lived. This had not happened in the chamber of secrets yet, so Harry would have just died.

[@kirstineerikacrenzien9629]

But it did have an effect that harry sacrificed himself, like his mother's love protection, Harry's sacrifice protected the rest of his Allies in the remaining part of battle of Hogwarts

[@InitialPC]

its not just the fact that it was a love potion, rowling said if voldemort was raised by his mother or even by a loving adopted family then he would have turned out better its the fact that he grew up unloved, with the conditions of his birth merely being a contributing factor to it, not the deciding one

[@Caeljharden]

I think it’s pretty damn obvious what that vile act of pure evil is.. Once you’ve committed the murder and successfully split your soul, you have to call the parents of the person you just killed, and say these words.. “hello, we’ve been trying to reach you about your car’s extended warranty...” Omg I have chills even typing that. So vile. Such evil. Very bad.

[@patrickmcconnon93]

😂

[@Truth72500]

You killed someone and did this I see Congratulations for being a psychopath

[@shadowslayer2929]

really I thought it was calling the parents of the person you murdered and saying they're dead then laughing like an idiot eheheheeh 😂

[@steffikrose]

I also think that for making all these horcruxes, Voldemort might have given up some part of his senses: He has basically no nose left, his face skin is described as waxy and distored, he has red eyes... Our senses are our window into the world, they help us experience life through our bodily "vessel" if you will. I do strongly believe that some magic in HP is based in balance, in give and take, and in intention. So maybe, for Tom RIddle to make a true vessel for a part of his soul, he had to give something of his bodily vessel up. That would also match the self-cannibalism theory. And because these injuries are inflicted through magic, they don't heal and conceal properly, making Voldemort's appearance.

[@InitialPC]

yep, injuries caused by dark magic cant be healed, and dumbledore did say in the books that rituals contributed to voldemorts appearance

[@StepDoku]

come on people...he turned into what we know now after his fall and resurrection not before...he was naturally handsome!!!

[@StepDoku]

@@Othillde he was looking strange yes but because of his eyes...his total deformation came after his resurrection...i still stand by my point...you can read the book again...

[@antionettekidd9749]

Wow, that was well put and makes sense.

[@zulhilmi5787]

​​​​@@StepDoku You're wrong though. Voldermort already half ways into his resurrection form the moment he came back to ask for the defense against the dark art position from dumbledore. This as quote in the book "he was no longer handsome Tom Riddle".

[@atrumluminarium]

The giving up a part of your own body is the most plausible. It's the only way it's possible to create one accidentally as he did with Harry because he literally destroyed his body which would technically count

[@chromeshellking]

Like a mummy via embalming. Heart, liver, kidney etc.

[@razzberry4756]

yeah he couldn’t have eaten harry, or himself i suppose because he’s the one that died, so i think that puts that theory out the window

[@atrumluminarium]

@@razzberry4756 and I highly doubt he was munching on James or Lily while doing so considering he was very short on time before anyone showed up and the fact that missing bodyparts would be very evident on their corpses to give the order clues about his horcrux experiments. I believe the Potters are the only "horcrux murders" that could be attributed directly to Voldemort beyond reasonable doubt, because Myrtle was still blamed on Hargrid and the others were unknown to the order

[@atrumluminarium]

Also a small note on "sacrificing bodyparts" when it comes to the eyes, I suspect that even with magic sacrificing your eyes would be unlikely to not impair one's vision. I suspect that his eyes becoming red slits in relation to horcruxes might be a reference to the saying "the eyes are windows to the soul". Meaning in this context that they were showing signs of damage purely because his soul was maimed to such an extent after creating so many horcruxes

[@alotusflower]

Its not the only way tho. Its said that when J.K. told her editor he was so disgusted he almost vomited. So i actually think the creator has to orgasm. Not necrophilia tho, i think he has to feel so euforic while commiting the Murders to the point of orgasm. It would explain the accidental part of harry horcrux. He was killing the chosen one, he was the most powerful without his supposed enemy, so i guess he could orgasm accidentaly from the sheer amount of exitement.

[@Terminator775]

If you pause at the right frame at 9:40, that transition between pictures, Rons head looks like basilisks eye and its cool.

[@patrickdematosribeiro1845]

I don't think cannibalism can be required for the creation of Horcruxes. Voldemort created one Horcrux by killing his father and the muggle police made an autopsy. They would have noticed missing body parts, especially since they probably were paying attention to every detail, because they couldn't determine the cause of death.

[@razzberry4756]

also since his body was destroyed immediately when he tried to kill harry, creating the horcrux, there’s no way he could’ve eaten himself, since he’s the one that died to create the horcrux, and i’m assuming baby harry didn’t eat voldemort

[@joshhoffman5233]

Also JKR said the method was too gruesome to reveal. Cannibalism isn’t exactly too gruesome bc Greyback had already been biting folks

[@InitialPC]

@@joshhoffman5233 greyback is not technically human so its technically not cannibalism

[@InitialPC]

@@razzberry4756 its not that you have to eat yourself but that you have to give up a part of your body, and since his body was destroyed this could count it can also be argued that harry is not a full horcrux, only that after his soul was split from killing james and lilly and his body being destroyed the piece just latched on to harry the same way voldemort latched on to quirrel

[@joshhoffman5233]

@@InitialPC most def is the same gory level. And werewolves are human. It’s more like a condition. This is post book 2 HP not Underworld

[@thatoneguywithnointernet]

I think the reason the killing curse didn't work on Nagini is because her horcrux was intentional and had several layers of protective charms. While Harry Potter horcrux was unintentional. Meaning nothing could protect it. That's the most logical reason the killing curse worked on him.

[@wolfpack4295]

Idk. I don't feel the killing curse can destroy a horcrux. It only killed harry because the creator destroyed it.

[@fergiephan1983]

The killing curse is unblockable, therefore there is no charm or spell that would protect a horcrux.

[@thatoneguywithnointernet]

@@fergiephan1983 but intent is needed proving Voldemort can't kill Nagini because of her having piece of his soul. If your intent isn't to kill you'll just get a nosebleed from the spell as described when Bartley crouch Jr was mad eye Moody. So in theory it can be blocked

[@fergiephan1983]

@@thatoneguywithnointernet There is a world of difference between blocking the spell, and the spell merely being ineffective. also, if you are using the killing curse, your intent is most certainly to kill. That is what the curse does. It has no other purpose than to kill. As far as Moody/Crouch saying he wouldn't get so much as a nosebleed if the students used the curse on him, that was referring to inexperience rather then lack of intent.

[@fergiephan1983]

@@thatoneguywithnointernet Why do you keep saying Voldemort can't kill Nagini? Voldemort never tried to kill Nagini. Harry did. Harry's spell didn't kill Nagini because it wasn't Avada Kedavra. Harry wuoldn't use Avada Kedavra even if he could.

[@BjornV1994]

My theory is that the ritual of a horcrux creation is something that is concluded with the murder and not started with it. As mentioned, the damage of a killings varies from the circumstances from a mercy kill or kill in self-defense resulting in no to almost no damage but a particularly malicious kill ends with deep tears into soul. Killing someone for the sole purpose of selfishly prolonging once's one life beyond natural boundaries, would in itself leave incredibly deep tears, the deepest of all but perhaps a ritual prior to the killing is required to both weakened the soul (making it more easily "tearable") as well, show commitment to how far the caster is willing to go for their immortality, making the eventual act of murder even more depraved. So, a bit like the animagus ritual, you probably have a lengthy ritual that spans a few weeks with some self-sacrifice practices (like self-mutilation and the consumption of dark potions on basilisk venom basis), with at the end of the procedure, the murder. This has probably to take place within a few short days after the end of the ritual (showing a willingness to see things through the end), so once the final step is taken, it is of importance to hurry up (perhaps it is even lethal to break off the procedure at this point, who knows). It does also require some great planning from the caster AND casts a darker shadow on the fate of his victims. They weren't people of importance but they were just easily available victims that with the right manipulation of circumstances either made them easy victims or set-ups. In particular, I think about Myrtle Warren, Hepzibah Smith and Bertha Jorkins, who all might have an even darker end that we might have thought. Myrtle I believe, was set-up by Riddle. Once he discovered the bathroom that housed the entrance to the Chamber of Secrets, he might also quickly have learnt that it was also the bathroom that Myrtle used when she needed a place to cry. And once he realized she was a muggle-born, she quickly became a prime target for his murderous plans. I think during a year, he was busy with the two things: experimenting with his control over Slytherin Serpent (resulting in non-lethal attacks on muggle-borns, a deadly attack would draw too much attention before he was ready) and egging on Olive Hornby to push Myrtle futher and further. So when the time came that the end of his term was there, he waited for Myrtle to go to bathroom, followed her and had his basilisk kill her on the spot. With Hepzibah Smith, she didn't had to die but her death saved another. Again, when Riddle visited her, he already had murder on his mind, the term of killing was near its end and he was likely looking for a victim. Under the guise of an Borkins & Burge employee, he visited rich witches and wizards and the one with the best prices would be the "winner". Hepzibah likely wouldn't even have been considered for it, until she showed him the Hogwarts Treasures, not only sealing her own fate but starting his hunt with the collection of the old possessions of the four houses. If she hadn't done that, she would have been skipped and he would have gone after someone else, likely someone who was also easily to poison (the poison was already bought). As for Bertha Jorkins, after breaking her both mentally as physically, Voldemort and Pettigrew likely kept her alive for a while. Pettigrew falsily believing his master might return her to society after all but in reality, he only allowed her to live for as long as his ritual required him to wait before ending her as well. (And Pettigrew wouldn't know the difference between a Horcrux ritual and the thing that kept his master alive, how could he know the steps of ancient dark ritual, that was few knew).

[@gildedbear5355]

This makes the most sense to me (though it doesn't address the issue of the details but that's okay). We KNOW that Moldywarts was able to make a horcrux in harry on accident so whatever in involved in the process must have been already primed and since he definitely didn't do things AFTER the attack either making a horcrux is easy (unlikely) or requires preplanning. (one could argue that it only happened on accident because Warts was already so fractured but it still means that it's possible on accident.)

[@therampantideashub]

This is an underrated comment

[@dalyswonderfulwands3968]

@@gildedbear5355 I’m sure he prepared to make a horcrux with the murder of Harry but the ritual used the killings of his parents instead to create a horcrux

[@pinkdragon4830]

I don’t know if I remember it correctly,but I think J.K.Rowling once said that after she told the process to a woman,she was feeling sick (or even threw up).I don’t think what you described was so disturbing that someone would have that reaction

[@davincimemes3631]

Fun Fact. Harry was Horcrux number 6, meaning that by the time Voldemort created his 7th horcrux, harry had a larger fraction of Voldemort's soul inside of him than Voldemort had in his own body.

[@stevenreid2223]

When you're more Voldemort than Voldemort.

[@killiancraftofcraftyworks975]

Further fun fact. The diary was the largest soul shard at that time. Being 50%.

[@killiancraftofcraftyworks975]

Which means 12 yo Harry killed 50% of Voldemort.

[@jaredwilliams6853]

Yeah there goes the cannibal theory

[@lja1993]

How does that work if his body was gone, not allowing him to be able to create a 7th? And what was the 7th?

[@barbiquearea]

The reason I think why Voldemort decided to stop after making seven Horcruxes and didn't make anymore, even to replace the ones the Golden Trio had destroyed was because he may have been afraid the next one will strip him of his intelligence. Little by little the Horcruxes had chipped away at his humanity. The more horcruxes he made the more animalistic and less human he became. It's possible that the next Horcrux he creates could have turned him into an unintelligible rabid beast, one devoid of mental capacity and cunning, and living off primal instinct. Perhaps Voldemort was aware of this and thought it wasn't worth the risk.

[@jamieA7Xfan90]

HPT has already spoken about why it was 7 horcruxes in a different video a while ago. If you take away 50% of his soul after 7 horcruxes, you get about 1% of Voldemort's soul remaining. His soul was so fractured when he tried to murder baby Harry that the remaining soul fragment latched onto the nearest living thing Harry himself

[@LordWyatt]

A true immoral eternal monster.

[@MDev1997]

Voldemort also does cite wanting to specifically split his soul into 7 pieces (1 piece in him, and the rest in horcruxes) during his conversation with Slughorn as 7 is the most magical number and he wants to be the most magical being. So he didn't want to replace the horcruxes as they were being destroyed as he wanted his soul to only be split into specifically 7 pieces. In the end, he accidentally split his soul into 8 pieces because of the accidental horcrux in Harry so he had 7 horcruxes instead of 6.

[@jasonchidzoy2973]

He couldn't make more than 7. 7 is the powerful magical number I'm the harry Potter universe. He never intended to make harry a horcrux which is why made nagini after killing Bertha jorkins . Harry wasn't really a full horcrux so he would have stopped at 6 . He intended to make his 6 the using harrys death .

[@albino5995]

@@jasonchidzoy2973 that’s kind of what the dude above said but good try though 👍

[@cjg8763]

There's merit to the second theory. His eyes were inside the locket, if memory serves correctly.

[@VegetaLF7]

Yep, when the locket opens we see a flash of someone's eyes glaring back at him, one in each side of the locket. It was Tom Riddle's regular eyes, not his red slits as Voldemort.

[@invisibleman4827]

My money's on that one, but more likely those body parts would regenerate as they were, but the user's appearance still degrading over time due to the effects of the horcruxes. Certainly, the idea of Tom gouging his own eyes out and performing a ritual over the corpse of his victim is disturbing AF. I reckon it probably still involves cannibalism, but not of your victim, of the part of your body you'd just cut out, so Tom would have eaten his own eyes, nose or lips etc, but his appearance would've degraded naturally from the devastating effect of the increasing creation of new horcruxes rather than cutting them out. It links in with Merchant of Venice referring to a 'pound of flesh' in Shakespeare, and with Pettigrew slicing off his own hand yo resurrect Voldemort in the second book.

[@katzofant]

I think the idea with the body parts you need to sacrifice works quite well within the canon if you also consider a sufficient amount of blood a body part. It could be explained by the soul piece being unable to exist outside of the person's body therefore requiring a piece of the body to be left with it. The object, the piece of the soul and the body part are then fused magically to create an immortal construct. There would be the locket, he made with his eyes which he then replaced with snake eyes using dark magic, the cup, the diadem and the ring he formed with his lips, his nose and his hair, to create nagini he infused himself with her poison thereby sacrificing whatever the poison destroyed. His diary he formed with a lot of his blood (explaining why it bled when destroyed) This would explain how he was so pale and lacked lips, a nose, hair, his red inhuman eyes and why he was so thin. For Harry he sacrificed what was left of his body though involuntary.

[@asvarien]

Voldemort certainly didn't consume part of Lilly Potter, he never intended to create a horcrux from her murder and was destroyed when he attacked Harry. So definitely doesnt seem like cannibalism is a necessary part of the process. Doesn't make much sense anyway, mudering the victim is what fragmented the soul, I don't see how eating part of the victim would help remove the fragment from ones own body. Throughout history cannibalism has been practiced as a way of taking an enemies strength or power into oneself, and that's not what making a horcrux is about.

[@DECODEDVFX]

Voldemort didn't follow any of the usual ritual when Harry became a Horcrux - he didn't intend for it to happen. It was an accident caused by Voldemort's soul being so unstable combined with the fact he was killed by a spell that rebounded off Harry. But I agree that cannibalism of the victim doesn't make much sense.

[@gamezx]

I still find it odd how before voldemort there was supposedly only 1 known horcrux created, and yet it was already known that there's multiple ways to destroy one. Even weirder cus i dont think it was ever confirmed if that original horcrux was ever destroyed or not. So i'm pretty sure there's been probably a few more spread throughout history but after the first one everyone was just like "we're never reporting about these again"

[@BjornV1994]

Exactly, to me it isn't even a question about if other wizards/witches have created a horcrux but whom and how many. There is just too many examples of how they are destroyed or mend for it to be just Herpo and Voldemort. Now, if we look into folklore (as JK Rowling does love to turn folkloric or mythical myth into actual Harry Potter characters most notably Arthurian figures Merlin and Morgan Le Fay), I have come across a few characters in "muggle" stories that in Harry Potter could be turned into Horcrux creators. - The first is Koschei the Deathless: the Russian fairytale figure hid his death in the eye of needle, hid the needle in an egg, the egg in a duck, the duck in a hare and locked the hare in an iron box which in turn was buried on a vanishing island. Doesn't this sound a little bit like how Voldemort protected his horcrux. My headcanon: Koschei made a horcrux and which he hid on an island with a Fidelius charm (vanishing island). - In Irish Myth, we have sorcerer-king Cú Roí Mac Dáire, who stored his soul in the belly of a salmon, which was hidden on an island. As long it isn't destroyed, Cú Roí couldn't die. (It was later destroyed by Cú Chulainn)... Well, this doesn't even need any changes. - In Egyptian Mythology, there is a story of Bata, who put his heart into pinecone. This one is the hardest to incorporate but you can alter it to either a proto-horcrux wizard or alter the setting. - In Mi'kmaq Native American myth, a giant hid his soul in a pinecone and hid it on an unclimbable mountain in dispute with the god Glooskap. The story can easily be altered by turning the god into a wizard but it also requires someone from Europe (either a Viking wizard or someone on a broom) to travel to America, in order to exchange the information about horcrux creation. So we could have already a few wizards in folklore that fit the bill and likely there are even more. (Like the author of "Darkest Arts", by the way Hermione describes it, it is written as a clear instruction manual, so probably by someone with experience with it...)

[@marcusreading3783]

@@BjornV1994It wouldnt really be needed for a Europien Magical to travel to America to teach Mi'kmaq to create a Horcrux when he could just as easily have come up with the method, or a similar method, himself.

[@piotrkosakowski7071]

i believe that many dark wizards created horcruxes throughout history, but they created at most one each coz as you can see creating more has far reaching consequences.

[@amadhatter3280]

Of course others tried (and failed) to create a Horcux, the book Tom read it from was written by a Frenchmen I believe & Herpo (the creator of Horcux) was Greek. It would also stand to reason someone did it, regreted it & repaired their soul or we wouldn't know that fact (maybe the Frenchmen?). IMO I don't think Horcux's would of been a popular choice for dark wizards if it was more publicly avaible to them. Horcux creation seems to weaken the user or at least enough to hinder their potential so my guess most tried others methods to prevent death without destroying themselves to do it. Also I would assume most Dark Witches or Wizards likely don't fear death like Voldemort did & would see no reason to do it.

[@marcusreading3783]

Personally, I'm of the opinion that making Horcruxes diminishes the creator in some way and almost certainly effects the mind. I just dont see how you can chop up your soul like that and NOT loose something in the process. I wouldn't be surprised if it weakened your Magic as well.

[@alixmalone19]

I think the process of making a horcrux is a lot simpler than we think it is. Obviously killing splits the soul and we need that for the horcrux...I think the disgusting part comes from how the soul fragment has to exit the body. Oh, and I think that you don't have to have a fresh murder in order to make a horcrux. Voldemort just liked the theatrics and wanted to feel important. As long as your soul has separated parts from murder, you can use those to make horcruxes (which would clear up any timeline issues with Voldy's first horcruxes too).

[@DepFromDiscord]

I just read that in Sokka’s voice

[@sherrattpemberton6089]

@@DepFromDiscord funny, I read it in Kataras voice

[@pinkdragon4830]

And how exactly would the soul exit the body then??

[@urbanapache2]

The butt. @@pinkdragon4830

[@cedriceric9730]

​@@pinkdragon4830it attaches to the wand like those ghosts of Harrys wand. Summoning up remorseless of the murder present or past can certainly accomplish it. But it needs to be a real senseless murder to achieve it apparently. There is no other way. That's what shocked slughorn. It's one thing to commit one utterly remorseless selfish killing to extend ones life but to do it seven times ...!!

[@PoolKid75]

Voldemort's killing curse destroyed the fragment of his soul inside Harry's body because it was his killing curse and his soul fragment involved. A killing curse from any other person would likely have not had any effect, but because it was Voldemort himself using the curse that negated and/or bypassed any protections that might normally have prevented the soul fragment from being destroyed. That's why Harry had to confront Voldemort and allow himself to be killed by him rather than just committing suicide or something.

[@tomriddler1926]

I dont think so. Living horcruxes do not have natural protection, anything that would've killed Harry would've destroyed the horcrux.

[@chinolebron6233]

I disagree. To detroy the soul fragment one must destroy the container. I believe anyone could have killed Harry effectively destroying the soul fragment and ending Harry there and then. The only reason why it had to be Voldemort was to ultimately preserve Harry's life via the love protection that only protected him against Voldemort.

[@kellysouter4381]

@@chinolebron6233 I thought that protection ended in the graveyard at the return of Voldemort using Harry's blood. It why it had to be Harry's blood and no one else's. It was after the return of the Dark One that Harry began getting glimpses of him and what he was doing.

[@chinolebron6233]

@@kellysouter4381 From what I gathered, Voldemort taking in Harry's blood prolonged the protection within Harry all the while granting Voldemort protection from any rebounding curses. It's the only reason why his new body wasn't destroyed when he hit Harry with the killing curse in the forest. It was genius actually. I think, and don't quote me on this, once Harry chose to die the love protection faded from his blood making Voldemort vulnerable and killable once the horcruxes were destroyed.

[@jaysnow701]

Voldemort using Harry's blood made it possible to touch Harry. Not much else. All the benefits were given to Harry in that "transaction." Also the wand may have refused to kill Harry even then. And that horcrux had no protections placed by Voldemort.

[@kellysouter4381]

I think the changes to Voldemorts looks were caused by his behaviour and loss of humanity. At the end he killed anyone without thought or feeling because he'd become a caricature of a human being and his soul was a wreck.

[@DEVILS_advocate05]

He’s evil. So he probably didn’t shower and kept up his physical body. Behavior is to broad a term

[@mariagabbott]

What is comforting to me is that mercy killings can't create a horcrux, so Snape's soul remaimed intact because Dumbledore asked him to do it (in the bools, the movie left out the part where Snape asks Dumbledore "what about my soul"). The Half Blood Prince was always ny favourite book - I hope the HBO TV series goes into depth about Tom Riddle's journey and Dumbledore's memories in the penseive

[@juliet1272]

That moment you realise 🫥 you are addicted to Harry Potter

[@Chrischi3TutorialLPs]

For a horcrux to be destroyed, you also need to destroy the vessel irreperably. This is why the horcrux inside Harry is unaffected by the basilisk venom. Harry doesn't die.

[@MelissaMiller-wh1ir]

Um Harry was killed but had the snitch with the sorcerer's stone inside of it that allowed him to return from death. He was definitely dead and had to be killed in order to destroy the horcrux. Dumbledore left Harry the golden snitch in his will with the sorcerer's stone of immortality that Nicolas Flammel the alchemist created that provided the elixer of life.

[@Chrischi3TutorialLPs]

@@MelissaMiller-wh1ir No. Firstofall, the snitch contains the resurrection stone, not the Philosopher's Stone. That was destroyed at the end of the first book. Secondly, the ressurection stone was part of the Gaunt ring, which Dumbledore didn't find until years later. Third, Harry did not have the snitch in his possession at the time. Fourth, the Philosopher's Stone does not make you immortal. The elixir of life does. Harry did not consume the elixir of life. Thus, he was not immortal (not to mention that it is implied that you are only semi-immortal even then)

[@williamgiusti7146]

My theory is that souls have a natural tendency to mend themselves back after being fractured just like atoms try to remain intact rather than being split. Because Voldemort killed thousands his soul should have broken to dust instead of seven pieces if there wasn't some natural mechanism that glued the pieces together after a short time. What makes Horcruxes so hard to produce is that they require their creator to have a powerful magical container of emotional significance at their disposal in the moment they commit the murder so that they can seal the broken soul piece into it before the natural mending occurs. What makes the creation process so horrible is that it doesn't involve simple murder, it involves premeditated murder with the full conscious knowledge that you are taking away someone's life for evil reasons. Harry's Horcrux came to be because Voldemort was fully conscious that he just murdered the parents of an innocent baby and was going to do the same with said baby. The part of his soul fractured from killing James and Lillian jumped into Harry (a powerful magical being) the moment Voldemort's body was destroyed from the rebounded curse as he inadvertedly performed the Horcrux ritual despite not being his goal in that murder.

[@aa-ron2917]

Actually you don’t need to have a powerful magical container to put your soul in the 6th book when Harry finds out about horcruxs he freaks out because he says to dumbledore how the hell are we ever going to find them they could be tin cans or any other piece of rubbish laying on the side of the road. And Dumbledore last because he says that Harry grasp the gravity of the situation but he says to him does he really think Voldemort would take a piece of his own soul and put it inside a tin can? The only reason Voldemort picked magical artifacts to put his soul in is because he’s conceited. And wouldn’t use any regular object for his soul. But you can use literally any inanimate object it says so in the books Honestly he would’ve been smarter to do it that way to just make something like a baseball his whore crocs and then put it in a chest and drop that chest in the ocean no one would’ve ever found it

[@Pearleace]

i think it's been stated that there was something so disgusting in creating a horcrux that Rowling's editor forbid her to write about it.

[@editorrbr2107]

Atoms don’t do that out of their own essence. They do it because of the strong nuclear force. Some sort of additional process would be needed for this analogy to work. What could it be? Love, maybe? And that’s why Voldemort’s soul is so easily torn apart?

[@lorenzomariani5959]

I always wondered what would happen if the Tom Riddle from the diary managed to defeat Harry and completely consume Ginny, thus managing to transcend his existence as mere memory. If later the "original" Voldemort had been able to resurrect (which would have been possible, because even if he decided to use Harry's blood to circumvent Lily's protection, he could have been resurrected with the blood of any other wizard as well), there would be were two Lord Voldemorts? How would they behave towards each other? Would they join forces, or would they be rivals and fight each other? I think a video on this topic would be very interesting.

[@InitialPC]

theyre the same entity, they would magically fuse somehow, this is why there arnt 7 voldemorts in limbo when harry dies

[@lbentosoares4]

What I wonder is what he would be able to do if he did get the philosopher's stone, I guess he would be able to return with a perfectly stable human body + his horcruxes...hasically Harry frustrated his biggest plans by the beggining of the story.

[@InitialPC]

@@lbentosoares4 It's been said I think it was either by Rowling or Dumbledore in the book but Voldemort would not rely on the stone for immortality because it would force him to rely on an external source whereas horcruxes are extensions of himself.

[@lbentosoares4]

@@InitialPC Yeah, but he still had plans for the stone...wouldn't he at least be able to recreate his physical form more consistently with it? I mean, if he could ressurect in his younger form by simply taking Ginny's life force through the diary...

[@darkmage9252]

​@@InitialPC Dumbledore said it in the books

[@harrisonmccartney4878]

I'm quite partial to the idea of sacrificing parts of one's own body because it makes sense that if you're breaking off part of your soul and your body is a kind of vessel for the soul, then it would necessitate self-mutilation in order to break that piece of your soul away from the rest. However, I think it's also likely that in order to bind the soul to a container, that container must hold immense emotional significance for the soul to take hold in. It must be a refuge where the soul truly feels at home. Voldemort clearly cared more for objects than people, and his only living Horcrux besides Harry was his pet snake, Nagini, arguably the only living thing he cared for, even moreso than someone like Bellatrix, who at the end of the day was just another faithful servant. The objects Voldemort chose held significant magical importance, either related to the founding of Hogwarts, or from his own bloodline back to Salazar Slytherin. Because Voldemort is so attracted to powerful wizards and their artifacts, it makes sense that he used items with historical significance to the Wizarding world, and therefore held importance to him. He also would have had an emotional attachment to his diary as it was where he must have first formulated his dark philosophy and wrote down his own dark magic like Snape did in his potions book, sort of like Hitler's Mein Kampf, and this must have felt to him like a testament of his own brilliance, which is why he was emotionally attached to it. When it comes to why Harry was made a horcrux, we know Voldemort killed his parents without remorse, one of the requirements for the process. His body was also destroyed by the rebound, giving us the second. Yet why would his soul have attached to Harry when he clearly didn't care for the boy? I believe it may be because Voldemort's soul, contrary to how Voldemort felt personally, must have sought refuge in a place of love. Voldemort may not have known what love was, but after splitting his soul so many times, it's possible that it was in so much agony that it desperately wanted to house part of itself in something "human", something where it could feel love instead of just cold, cruel ambition. Harry, being protected by his mother's love, was then a perfect vessel for that small part of Voldemort's soul which sought out actual comfort. Voldemort was unaware of this, of course, but his soul was crying out for help and bound itself to Harry in a last ditch effort to preserve what it could of itself.

[@ziephel-6780]

That last part is a bit depressing, and it makes him more disturbingly human this way.

[@josejoao1621]

This is the theory I most enjoyed to read. And makes a lot of sense…

[@Psalm1473]

Listening to this while doing an ab workout is weirdly keeping my mind off how bad it hurts 😂

[@TheGentileGabe]

Ab vada cadabra

[@DanTheYoutubeAddict]

9:26 I disagree with the idea that true remorse will heal the damage of a horcrux. In my opinion (please keep this part in mind), killing someone splits the soul while creating a horcrux tears it. The difference between the two is that a split soul can be repaired in the method that you mentioned because it is still connected to the person and inside of them, while a torn soul is permanently removed and can never be returned. In prefer this philosophy because it adds a level of permanence to the creation of a horcrux by making it so that once you make one you can never unmake it because you have consciously chosen to do so.

[@Rj-pw7zs]

Not necessarily. I think it would still work to repair the soul as nobody being beyond redemption would fit more. The it's also possible you never regain what you lost, but simply repair what is left.

[@DanTheYoutubeAddict]

@@Rj-pw7zs you make a compelling argument. I will have to think about it . But I still tend to prefer to think that if someone has *consciously* done something this evil, fictional or non-fiction, there is/ought to be a permanence to their guilt.

[@DanTheYoutubeAddict]

@@gracchus7782 do you think you can tell me where in the text? I just would like to confirm since that would be the final word.

[@ziephel-6780]

The only way I think this can be cured is if the remainders in the afterlife are given a complete reset/reincarnation, maybe when Voldemort died, the remaining pieces of himself reunited in the afterlife, making his damaged soul have the capacity to cleanse itself, becoming a clean-slate, essentially a true 'death' as whatever is born afterward is no longer Voldemort anymore, essentially undermining the whole process of immortality, but also death makes itself not as horrible as Voldemort would imagine it to be, giving it a sense of bittersweet irony. The only thing that would keep him stuck in limbo would be his fear of death, so he'd be suffering for what may be millennia until any acceptance of moving on takes place.

[@f.8277]

I have a DIFFERENT THEORY that (I think) no one has mentioned yet: First of all, we already know that your soul doesn't TEAR APART just by killing someone, therefore, you must do some sort of ritual in order to split it and rip it off. But why do people keep thinking of self cannibalism as the way to do it? It makes no sense to me. If at all, I would envision Voldemort getting rid from a part of himself from the INSIDE (both soul and body), and not from the ouside. And this is how I imagine he did it: 1) Constantly throughout the book we are reminded of how many "snake features" Voldemort appearance has, why has no one mentioned this as a relation to the ritual or his "after horrocrux lifetime"??! 2) Also, it's never fully clear how and when he met Nagini, but we know (and keep hearing) it's the creatrure he's been the CLOSEST to ... so....... I think the ritual involves Nagini (or another snake, but I'm quite confident it was Nagini) ENTERING HIS BODY (I guess through his mouth) and eating/ripping part of his flesh/soul out. That would explain why his body has resemblances of a snake (you could even think Nagini "shaped" his new body/self) and, to be honest, I find this way more disturbing that having to eat my own ear. P.S.: If anyone's doubting Nagini could phisically do that you already got an example when she entered Bathilda's corpse. P.S.2: Also, Herpo the foul (first creator of horrocrux) ALSO had snake like features...and he was able to speak parsel AND his name literally means "SNAKE", so...I think J.K.Rowling left quite some hints there...

[@jamalel-sayed5196]

If Harry died in the chamber of secrets by the Basilisk fang, it would destroy the Horcrux inside him yes but surely he wouldn’t be able to come back like in the deathly hallows. Avada Kedavra is a death that does like, no damage to your body, so all Harry needed to awake again was his soul to go back into his body. But if he died by basilisk venom all his organs would be damaged, he would need not only his soul to come back from the dead but he would need a new body practically.

[@jihanessa4132]

true. AK killed the single soul in harry (horcrux) but the venom will stay inside and will not get removed except it it was carefully administered by healers and as a result it would kill the organs and kill harry himself.

[@seankrake4776]

Honestly, I have difficulty believing that either of the rituals mentioned here would be gruesome enough to make an editor vomit. If I’m being honest I suspect that it’s a giant ruse. Any ritual so terrible it would make an adult Ill, would have to be intricate enough that you wouldn’t do it on accident, and I suspect would be too intricate to perform before murdering someone. I have spent time trying to figure out what could be so heinous, and related to immortality, and there aren’t any that really fit the bill.

[@phoqueme]

Fr bruh lmao that statement about the editor always rubbed me off the wrong way, made no sense. Or maybe we are just that desensitized to these kind of stuff lol

[@gustavedelior3683]

It did make an editor rather ill. It was said she had to remove these details.

[@seankrake4776]

@@gustavedelior3683 I’ve read that before, but I believe it is a publicity stunt. A tall tale told to make everyone believe there is something more gruesome than is believable and she doesn’t have to actually come up with it

[@xaviermouratonabo6499]

Rowling was able to imagine quite a lot. Do you think she would have trouble to imagine a gruesome secret way to finish the horcrux creation? She just doesn't want to talk or write about it (and Bloomsbury clearly doesn't want to publish those bits) because there are children who also read the Harry Potter books. Also, she might be worried that people would come up and judge her.

[@seankrake4776]

@@xaviermouratonabo6499 my thing is I don’t think there is something so bad that a publisher, an adult who has probably read lots of terrible things, would actually become physically Ill. Like you could I’m detail describe cannibalism, desiccation, sacrifice, and a whole lots of other things that might shock me, but not make me physically Ill. I don’t 100% doubt she came up with a clever and gruesome process. To me the story sounds like it was made up to drum up interest and thus sales. Otherwise, I feel like after all this time she would have released more about it through twitter, or an article on pottermore. That leads me to believe there never was something in depth, just vague and generic something too gory for children.

[@scottyrobertson3]

It wasn't the craftsmanship of the sword that made it able to kill a horcrux it was impregnated with basilisk venom

[@HunterBelkiran]

but the craftsmanship of the sword allows it to take it that which makes it stronger.. so in essence, you're both right :)

[@SirWonkotheSane]

If you'll remember Dumbledore said that Harry had to get Voldermort to kill him to destroy the horcrux within him. suggesting that the creator could destroy, voluntarily or otherwise, their own horcrux.

[@Pearleace]

Voldemort had to be the one to kill Harry so Lily's protection that still existed in Voldemort himself, could bring Harry back to life. i think anyone could've destroyed "Harry-horcrux" by killing him. maybe because he was an accidental horcrux, he could be killed via a killing-curse? or maybe that's just another method to destroy horcruxes? then again, perhaps you're right, and no-one else could've even killed Harry, unless with basilisk poison or fiendfyre. or it's also possible that Rowling didn't think that far ahead.

[@avalonkemi]

I always liked not knowing this part. It makes me feel how I imagine the trio felt, not actually ever knowing (Until hermione steals them from Dumbledore's office lol)

[@Eppu_Paranormaali]

Makes sense that the diary is the strongest horcrux (able to possess a human, command a basilisk and form a conscious reincarnation), since it contained a half of Voldemort's soul if a soul would always rip into two pieces when one makes the spell.

[@kaimagnus5760]

The unspeakable step is listening to the Boku no Piko opening theme for 12 hours. Only someone truely insane could endure that kind of torment.

[@TheInstinctWithinV2]

So basically, a horocrux is just another word for a phylactery, a magical object containing the removed soul of a Lich, causing them to be invulnerable until the phylactery is destroyed, except it only works like a spare life in a video game. I don't think J.K really could not describe the process of creation due to how horrific it is, she purely wants it to remain a mystery. Maybe she doesn't want to make a process, because depending on the person reading/hearing it, it's either going to be tame or truly horrible. Fear and disgust are subjective after all. Some people are deathly afraid of spiders, some people only see cool or fascinating creatures.

[@Grudzien1995]

Everything about the process of creating a horcrux is braking apart when it comes to creating one in Harry. There was no intention, no ritual, no sacrifice like cannibalism etc. The only thing that comes to my mind is that wizard generally CAN do a no-wand magic and as little Harry crying, being in strong emotions and the old love protecting magic do ripped off a part of the soul of Tom when killing spell hits him. The fact that Voldemort was afraid of dying so much might affect parting a soul. Maybe in that moment he was thinging about horcruxea and that he cannot die, because he was so afraid of that idea, created incatation or intention to split again. Still all of that suggest that there is nothing more that just incatation or intention while killing to create horcrux.

[@DjAcesOfficial]

10:25 not to forget the sword of gryffindor was in a way, socked in basilisk venom. Making it just like the fangs.

[@weswheel4834]

If Harry had died in Chamber of Secrets, he'd have stayed dead I think. He only got the protection once Voldermort absorbed some of his special blood in Goblet of Fire. Apparently.

[@DECODEDVFX]

It isn't possible for the Horcrux ritual to require cannibalism of the victim. Myrtle's ghost sat with her body for hours waiting for the corpse to be discovered by Olive Hornby. Unless we are to believe that Riddle somehow got access to her corpse later. Which seems unlikely.

[@barbiquearea]

First and foremost, I think Horcrux creation requires malice to murder in one's heart as the first step to creating one. So hypothetically if Voldemort had killed Harry in self defence, it likely wouldn't of resulted in a Horcrux being made, even if he had intended to.

[@emankcin1701]

He would never kill in self defence tho. But otherwise you're spot on.

[@zokora3656]

@@emankcin1701 of course he would kill in self-defense? just because you are a psychopathic serial killer you still have the option to kill in self-defense no matter if you enjoy it or not. Voldemort got attacked a ton in his lifetime i believe so him killing in self-defense wouldnt be to uncommon.

[@emankcin1701]

@@zokora3656 Only Dumbledore could have attacked him and prevailed.

[@zokora3656]

​@@emankcin1701 so picture this: I have an AK-47 loaded and unlocked aimed at you. You have a knife running at me. If i shoot you and kill you now its still self defense since you had the intention of killing me with the knife. Same thing here. Anyone trying to kill Voldemort would obviously fail because its like charging a soldier that has a rifle aimed at your head with a butter knife.

[@macp7275]

Decided to leave first comment, start reading books please, you've got a great voice, every time I paint or draw I listen to this chanel over and over. It would be so cool to have HP books read by yourself.

[@skskskssksksksks7404]

Albus said, Voldemort had to kill Harry himself, so I think living things which work as a horcrux can be destroyed with Avada Kedavra but only by its creator. Ron wasn’t able to kill Nagini with the killing curse

[@benbroxterman336]

That was only so harry could come back

[@Huskytabby]

Video idea for you to do: What additional effects do spells have that are not seen in the movies? For instance, what else can the patronus charm do besides ward off dementors?

[@rustydaboyrobot]

Lots of ideas....but the fact that Harry was made into a Horcrux by accident...kind of blows a lot of theories out of the water. Obviously, it's not cannibalism. There's no marks on the bodies, and an autopsy would have revealed "missing body parts". So, strike that off the list. Voldemort's transformation is truly do to his reconstruction of body...using Nagini as one of the source materials, so, I dont think that's right. My theory. How does a "partial soul" become whole again? I think the true dread, awfulness of the Horcrux is that the wizard has to do the absolute worst thing we read about in the books; suck out the soul of the dead...at the time of death. Leaves no mark...and there's no consciousness left in the donor soul; it's a blank slate. It's used to sustain the portion in the object used. So, the victim remaining is both lifeless and soulless. And that is why even dark wizards will not used a horcux. This also explain why the fragment of soul attached to Harry; the difference being his soul is whole...and wholely alive; with Voldemort's fragment granting powers and abilities, but unable to "rule " the whole. What do you guys think?

[@AdorianDelmore]

Sounds like a dementors kiss.🤔

[@rustydaboyrobot]

@@AdorianDelmore Kinda does, doesn't it? Ever wonder why the Dementors followed Voldemort? 🙂

[@edopronk1303]

I think you are right. At least that it's part of it.

[@Doublecool]

I agree With you partially. Because we see Voldemort Is already Snake like before killing Harry. I think It must be a combination of what you said plus the giving up of part of your body to the object, as we see woth the locket and how Voldemorts body ended destroyed afrer killing Harry

[@erichaineault5789]

Harry becoming an horcruxe when Voldemort's body been destroyed (and without him knowing) means the separation of the soul from the body is the last step in makin an horcruxe, otherwise it wouldn' have worked.

[@Gamble9110]

I have said this for forever! Thank you!!

[@BobbyFlay14]

Agree. I assume it’s a pre ritual with the murder the final step

[@Gamble9110]

@@BobbyFlay14 yes… if I’m not mistaken I believe Joe confirmed that a few years ago. She said that when she also said that she told one person (her editor if I remember correctly) how a horcrux is made and that after she told him he said he almost actually threw up.

[@cedriceric9730]

​@@Gamble9110😂 people grossly underestimate the imagination of a writer !! Especially one who built a witchcraft universe

[@cheetah219]

I think in general, since Horcruxes are meant to be a soul in an object (living or not), the body is not involved. Since it's known in HP that a soul can survive without a body, in order to create a horcrux what someone needs to do is almost like a dementer's kiss. After killing someone, someone's soul is exposed to the afterlife (we know there is an afterlife because Harry meets Dumbledore and goes to Limbo). What someone must do is capture the exposed soul and split it (if sectumsepra is physical body cutting there is a way to do the same with a soul). And then, the person must capture and imbue an object with the soul and its done. Because Harry was an accidental horcrux, it wasn't voldy who put the soul on Harry. It was Lilly's love who found that there is a need to put it in Harry for protection. This is why then later on, when voldy takes Harry's blood later on, the protection continues in voldys blood. In other words. Lilly's love is almost like a positive version of a horcrux. If horcruxes are from killing, then love is from sacrifice. One creates immortality from certain death then the other is protection from certain death. One is soul splitting...the other is soul merging. I could go on all day haha

[@dgunville]

In shamanism the splitting of the soul happens when traumatic events force parts of the soul/self to retreat into the unconscious/shadow parts of the psyche. Voldemort created the Horcruxes by inflicting increasingly more heinous acts, the acts would have had to be horrific for himself as he is trying to split his own soul. As more of the human/good parts retreat into his shadow/the inanimate objects, the easier it would be to create even more vile acts as his body would contain less of a soul. I think the percentage of the soul imbued in each object would reflect the amount of trauma Voldemort inflicted on himself, by committing horrid acts unto others. I'm sure there was a standard ritual on how to capture the soul in an object, but I think the trigger/trauma on the practitioner would be subjective. It makes me think of SRA, or MK Ultra, and how often times the one's performing the acts are split themselves. It speaks volumes on the dangers of trying to take shortcuts to enlightenment or the foolish trauma bonds created by secret societies trying to become supernatural/immortal (outside of the 3RD-4TH dimensions). Voldemort represents what self-hatred and self-destruction can do to a person, and how projection (good unto his wizard half, and bad unto his muggle side) created this flawed dictator. His lust for power in the world he seen as valuable/good(wizardry) and his hatred of what inside himself he viewed as negative/bad (muggle/human). In a way I think magic/muggle can represent the masculine/feminine, and the squibs/muggle born the ying-yang balance in each sphere. I was also playing around with the idea that Harry and Voldemort were like twin flames in a sense, and why Harry, experiencing the same traumas that Voldemort did couldn't extend like unconditional love to Voldemort and help him integrate the split parts of his soul somehow... that would be a twist ending... probablyt anticlimactic, not good for book sales...

[@blackc1479]

Just thought of a problem: so if you're supposed to consume part of the victim, what did voldy consume of harrys? Plus theres the idea of intent, for the spell to work. There are so many thorny, wonky ways you could go w this whole thing it's awesome. Suppose there was a wizard version of the punisher? He doesn't do it to save himself, or protect others, just for vengeance? What's that do to the soul? What if he decided to make a horcrux so he could continue his quest for justice/revenge? What if say barty crouch Jr found out how to, and did it just so he could always serve voldy? And what if your eating of the victim just meant you bit their nails or something,🤔 still nasty, but infinitely preferable.

[@that.canadian.vaper.guyTCVG]

One thing I always thought about was Harry's love protection from his mother probably protected him from being completely possessed by Voldemort. We see Harry share traits and abilities that are directly linked to Voldemort, which is probably due to Voldemorts soul being inside of Harry. But if his soul was inside of Harry, wouldn't he have been able to completely possess Harry? Similar to a young Tom Riddle possessing Ginnie Weasley in Chamber of Secrets? Ultimately, yes. He should have. But we've seen time and time again, that Harry was protected from Voldemort due to his mothers sacrifice. Even simply touching him would bring unimaginable pain to Voldemort. This was probably why the shard of Voldemorts soul residing within Harry hadn't possessed him prior to Goblet of Fire. Lily's sacrifice protection was keeping the piece of Voldemorts soul at bay within Harry. If you're a fan of Naruto, then it would be similar to Kurama being sealed with Naruto. As long as the seal was kept in tact, then Kurama could have possess Naruto. Which was why Voldemort had not tried to possess or afflict Harry in anyway prior to the 4th film/book. Once Voldemort used Harry's blood in his body regeneration spell, he was able to bypass the protection and able to affect Harry. Which was why we seen Harry being more and more affected by Voldemort in Order of the Phoenix. Voldemort was not able to touch Harry, meaning the piece of his soul within Harry was able to afflict him. Thus the growing nightmares and long distance occlumency Harry endured during Order of the Phoenix. Voldemorts soul was also affecting Harry's emotions, making him feel more angry, desolate and alone. But once Harry was able to overcome Voldemorts possessions, and figured out his weakness, Voldemort was forced to leave him alone. Voldemort could not withstand love and compassion, due to how he was brought into the world. Thus the piece of soul within Harry no longer affected him afterwards, since he figured out how to counter the possession.

[@joshhoffman5233]

Well it’s def the reason he’s able to manipulate Harry’s mind from distance. I always wondered was legilimency and occlumency even any use for the mind/soul reading in this instance? It certainly does seem like any other times we see this magic used. I’ll tell you one thing though, this possession power has something to do with it. No other dark wizards do this.

[@that.canadian.vaper.guyTCVG]

@@joshhoffman5233 yeah, I definitely understand where you're coming from. And dont mind my rambling, my original comment. Just some headcanon I came up with, trying to make sense of Harry and Voldemort' connection lol. But I've often thought of that as well. If the soul shard within Harry was constantly a presence, then would occlumency and legilimency even play a factor in that specific situation? Voldemort from a far would definitely have to use legilimency to affect Harry, but would the shard of Voldemorts soul even need to use magic to affect Harry at all? Since we know that his horcruxes were indeed able to act separately from the remainder of Voldemort, ie Tom Riddle in Chamber, wouldnt that piece of Voldemort be able to possess and affect Harry in some way? This is why I came to the conclusion that after Voldemort used his regeneration spell with Harry's blood, the horcrux within Harry was then free to affect Harry. Since Lily's protection spell was being bypassed, the horcrux within Harry was able to affect Harry. But the question remains at the end lol.

[@joshhoffman5233]

@@that.canadian.vaper.guyTCVG Ah that’s interesting about the blood magic connection. I like that for explaining why this soul fragment doesn’t seem as able to do things as independently as the proper horcruxes. And I would say if that were the case it wouldn’t matter if voldemort overcame the barrier bc that has no bearing on the fragment! Bc then the fragment would be acting differently not only bc voldemort was properly alive again but bc of what blood he has? That’s a lot of head canon. And after all we’re talking the fragment is able to exist but be restrained, etc. The other reasoning might be that it’s not a horcrux proper and therefore it doesn’t act the same. As for legilimency, when Harry reads voldemorts mind is he doing legilimency? It doesn’t seem like it. It seems like it bursts into his mind and he’s doing occlumency to protect. Eg in book 7 when he finally learns, it doesn’t quite seem like what snape was teaching, namely relaxing the mind to repel the attack with force of mind, calm, not emotional. In fact he’s using love/grief, a strong emotion, which naturally pushes out the soul fragment antenna signal. And dumbledore makes that comment that supports this at the end of book 5 “it didn’t matter that you couldn’t close your mind, it was your heart that saved you.” And that was from possession, not legilimency. Does a person who isn’t Harry get help against possession if they’re good at occlumency? I once thought that was how voldemort got through the Bertha jorkins memory charm: possessing her. But then JK messed that up by commenting that voldemort was able to hold a wand in his rudimentary body and that’s how he to trusted her, made the horcrux with her death, etc. So I guess it was just the cruciatus curse and legilimency. So rather than occlumency it’s love that defends against voldemort, but because as dumbledore said to snape when got confused about this topic, minds and souls is the same thing re Harry and voldemort. I still don’t see how this magic avails us for the connection 😂

[@claremcculloch1903]

2 theories? Wow, I'm hitting a jackpot here

[@someesingh2827]

The reason I think cannibalism is stupid is simple. HPverse has werewolves who basically are cannibals. Just one step more isn't "so revolting" that she couldn't say it out loud. What I believe is, Rowling hasn't decided yet (or doesn't plan to do it).

[@Gamble9110]

I agree with this…

[@ian7064]

I hope JK Rowling never reveals the full process of making horcruxes. It's the mysterious/taboo nature of it that makes it so interesting. Its one of the darkest secrets in the magical world and the fact that Voldemort if Rowling came out one day with a step by step guide on how to make one, it wouldn't be as cool anymore

[@briansivley2001]

For me it would. I'm just curious about what sick demented cruel process goes into making a horcrux🤔🤔🤔🤔🤔🤔. I know it's a thing of fiction but I'm just curious about it being it's so mysterious and like with most mysterious things I just want to find out what happens.

[@edopronk1303]

And for some it wouldn't be as gruesome as they expect it to be, so I agree with you.

[@TheMacC117]

If being a horcrux made Nagini immune to avada kedavra, then that means Harry spent 17 years of his life walking around being immune to it from anyone except Voldemort.

[@zeals936]

If killing someone creates a horcrux, then many people would have horcrux’s. Something had to have happened prior to Vold’s arrival. If it’s so foul, and killing is just part of the method to create… we’re missing other components for sure.

[@larryrottenberk7771]

So the process of creating a horcrux has to happen before the murder aspect of the process, because if not, Harry wouldn't have been made into one that fateful Halloween. That's how I see it at least.

[@larseirikfodnes4361]

Plot twist for Chamber of Secrets: Fawkes is an undercover Death Eater who arrives just in time to save Voldemort's horcrux.

[@dmitrybahrt9227]

The chair Dumbledore is sitting in at 3:41 looks like it was leather made from Nagini’s skin !

[@SuperHossam1979]

i'd like to ask a question in second film how could riddle know what happend for voldmort when he tried to kill harry riddle made this horcrux when he was 16 years that means the memories in horcrux haven't got any new information after year of made excuse me if i can't explain my question well

[@mikelapine1]

I think that there’s an additional side effect of creating a hocrux that has never been mentioned or considered by anyone. Consider the fact hocruxes are created by splitting apart one’s own soul to put it into another object. Consider also that a mage’s power originates from the soul… What happens when you continually split an ever decreasing amount of your soul that gets increasingly gets more unstable with every split and also serves as the source of your power?

[@hanpol2053]

I read a number of the popular fan fictions and I think, it's more complicated a ritual or at least I kinda hope it is. Also the early Tom riddle did not look as unnatural I think a 3 or 4 part soul seems to be the time when he really started to change, or it's a change that only occurs slowly over the years and not instantly. Other ideas I read I found good was voldemort had already started the ritual to create a horcrux and specially destabilized his soul in preparation. Another good idea is that for it to be the most evil magic immaenable that it actually damages the soul of the victim as well. May involve ritually eating a snake from the tail, kind of ritually becoming part of the self devouring snake. Personally I also think, that an horcrux needs to be a somewhat important object so one can not just turn a random pebble into ones horrcrux but some item that has a certain amount of meaning to one prior to it becoming an horcux And the damage caused by killing somebody is not quite equal to the one of creating a horcrux but more like a chunk in ones soul and the ritual is than, used to damage the soul further and split something off.

[@detritusofseattle]

My suspicion is that Horcruxes are created by infusing a part of the physical body into the object. It probably doesn't require flesh, per se, but most likely at least blood. Why would that be? Well, for starters, the soul is being anchored to the object, and the thing about souls is the only thing they seem to naturally latch onto are living things- even when Voldemort accidentally made Harry a horcrux, the bit of his soul didn't latch onto the crib, a dead body, or some random object in the room, but rather latched onto something LIVING, in this case Harry. I suspect that horcruxes are alive, and not just in the sense of having a soul infused into them. I believe that there is a part of the wizard's body that is actually enfused into these otherwise dead objects, and I think it would make sense for it to be blood. After all, what do we see Voldemort do when he is resurrected? He uses a couple drops of Harry's blood in order to create his new body. The ingredients are "Bone of the father", "Blood of the enemy taken unwillingly" and "Flesh of the servant sacrificed willingly". That spell/potion creates a body for a soul, as before Voldemort was only possessing a makeshift body in the form of an infant. I have to imagine that this body-creation spell was probably derived from the horcrux making process, as without having a way to make a new body, being bound to this plane of reality would have been pointless, and really worse than just being a ghost. My guess is that when Voldemort made the diary horcrux, he designed it so that it could possess a living person in order to allow him to come back if his body was destroyed. He probably figured that it was inevitable someone would pick up the diary once he was dead, and when they did, he'd invade their mind and then use their lifeforce to build a new body. Really what it probably does is uses their flesh, bone, and blood to do something similar to the potion. Which brings me to what I think happens. I think Voldemort takes the blood of those he has killed and drinks it, possibly even eating a small bit of their flesh. Doing this with a freshly killed person would give him some of their leftover lifeforce. Not enough to create a whole other physical body, but enough to bind a soul to. Then, he probably cuts himself, bleeding on the object in question, pouring out the damaged part of his soul along with that blood. The blood then fuses with the object, taking the little bit of the lifeforce of the person he killed as well as some of his own and bringing this thing to life. Giving up some of his lifeforce as well as taking in some of the lifeforce of another taints both the object it is attached to and the creator's body. One's life is now split between these two or more bodies, as is one's mind, and this means the normal life essence that would animate the flesh is weaker, and so the flesh is simply less healthy. It causes a kind of premature aging and decay. Voldemort would probably have looked quite handsome in his 70's if he hadn't done so many horcruxes, as all of his magical life force would still be in his body, rather than split apart.

[@wafflingmean4477]

Perhaps you must fragment or damage the soul of your victim to an extent that they cannot pass to the afterlife. Harry's parents appeared from Voldemort's wand in the graveyard (and so did Bertha Jorkins if I remember right) and Myrtle is a ghost.

[@guilhermematsueda]

Oh my Gosh ! These theories are trippy ! 😅

[@LeoH3L1]

I wonder if it's not so much physical but it involves the destruction of the soul of an innocent, from what we know, it involves damaging the soul of themselves, and instead of that being sent on, anothers is substituted and sent on incomplete in its place. Then that part of the damaged soul of the wizard can be bound to an object, essentially a soul fragment shell game. It would seem to be a terrible fate, an eternity as an incomplete soul.

[@dreadfulspiller8766]

What I would like to know is how do horcruxes make you immortal? I mean does it stop you aging not just coming back after you are killed because what if you died of old age would that use up one horcrux? The bit of soul in voldemort escaped to albania so I guess a horcrux stops you from being a ghost or moving on to the wizard afterlife.

[@LouisGaufridiSorcerer]

There is a type of artifact in ancient magic known by many names and one is a Horax. It was created with dark daemonic magic and one had to make a human sacrifice to create it, and the Horax was said to extend the magicians life and even live beyond the grave. Maybe the Horax was the inspiration for the Horcrux in Harry Potter? Part of the ritual of the Horax was the magician had to make the sacrifice, and this sacrifice made a spiritual "highway" so the magician could take part of their own soul and place it in a magical object/artifact. The object had to be a magical artifact because by it being magical (the object being spiritually alive) it could hold the part of the soul. The ritual to create the Horax is long and extensive, using many different substances to prepare the object and magician, and the sacrifice was done during a particular time. No cannibalism was necessary, but the sacrifice had to be done in a particular way. Again, maybe this was JKR inspiration?

[@DriesduPreez]

I'm morbidly curious about the creation of a Horcrux, but even more so about the creation of the rudimentary body Voldemort had until Goblet of Fire. Btw, are you employing an English accent for the presentation of HP Theory?

[@redpiller6050]

So no ones gonna bring up the necrophilia theory then?

[@tylerholbrook2576]

I need some clarification. If the creation of a horcrux requires murder+incantation+ritual. How did Voldemort do all of that when he killed Lilly and died instantly himself?

[@ginantsfan5]

" Don't pity the dead Harry pity the living and above all those who live without love." 👦⚡🦉🌕🏰🧙‍♂🚂💀🐍📖

[@izzsweeney2521]

Okay so my idea is that since jk often uses real life scenarios/social structures. My mind goes to prison and the worst of the worst people all together (like the dark witches and wizards) even they have a hierarchy. Even they have those crimes and criminals that even the murderers wouldn’t speak about. I think horcruxes must have something to do with either children, vulnerable people or more likely a sex crime. I think it might have to include someone’s reproductive organs. Because the retrieval/hijacking of those areas is a crime so atrocious even the worst people wouldn’t imagine doing. It also links to the reproduction/birth of the new soul piece in the other body. Bit dark but just a theory I guess. Makes sense as to why it’s unspoken of.

[@MrSpannners]

One question I have, that I hope you can answer or make a video on; Why was there was no body of Voldemort, that night in Godric's Hollow? People saw that Lily and James were dead in the house, and Harry was obviously taken from there. So someone, or multiple people, had to go inside the Potter residence after the event, we know Snape and Dumbledore did at least. I'm sure they would noticed the dead body of the dark lord. But Avada Kedavra doesn't destroy a person's body, it just kills a person, completely and instantly. So what happened to Voldemort's original body? Did it disintegrate like he did a the end of the movies? And however it disappeared, why?

[@zokora3656]

We have no idea what really happens to you when the curse throws back onto the caster. An example would be the patronus. A dark wizard once wanted to use it in a battle and when he used it maggots came out of his wand attacking and devouring him. For all we know if Avada Kedavra throws itself back onto you, you could get obliterated. Another possibility is that he didnt die from the curse itself but from the protective spell from his mothers love. No one can really know what happened as the only witness is an infant.

[@Pinkstars1605]

I do think she has kind of spelled it out for the people in the book, the potion used to bring him back in the graveyard in book 4 is basically how you would create a horcrux.

[@Pearleace]

he used his father's bones for each of his horcruxes? but he'd already killed Myrtle by the time he kills his father, if i recall right, and thus, the diary was already a horcrux. so, not possible.

[@papashort13]

You answered every single question I had. Thx

[@Bricksgaming710]

Also didn't Tom Riddle's diary basically possess Ginny Weasley cuz he said she wasn't aware at what she was doing at first

[@zokora3656]

Could have yes. But it could also have casted Imperio on her. Same effect.

[@Γιώργος-ΕυγένιοςΤζωρτζίνης]

I have my theory about this too: since there is such a thing as a soul in Harry Potter world, I believe that the horcrux creation ritual spell is a spell that places the soul of the freshly murdered under maximum, inescapable torment.

[@littlefoot5013]

I'm a bit curious also, now that I think of it, how anyone would really WANT such an immortal life long term (as in hundreds or even thousands of years, let alone forever.) I mean, if a body can be destroyed by a backfiring killing curse, then surely it would eventually have fallen apart naturally over time. There's nothing, from what little we understand of Horcruxes, to suggest that they make the body last forever, only that the individual in question won't "cross through the veil". If indeed Voldermort had killed Harry, what's to stop his body from degrading somewhere in his 100's (I don't think that he'd be able to do much better than Bathilda Bagshot, who was even older than Dumbledore and Grindelwald, and technically she was murdered and may have lived even a bit longer but she was definitely going downhill at the time of her death.)). We DO know that the Sorcerers Stone somehow keeps someone's body pretty fit, but that's thanks to whatever is in the Elixir of Life. Apparently drinking that can keep one alive and well for a time, even after the Stone is destroyed. But that isn't made, as far as we know, with Dark Magic. So, if Voldermort had still be around, say, in the year 2050 or so, his body may have given out, and he'd once again be "weaker than the meanest ghost" and bla bla bla. True, maybe his powers wouldn't break this time (though maybe the reason they broke last time as because he lost his body and they WOULD break once more)). When that happens, it's possible a counter coup could have defeated the Death Eaters, leaving nobody around to bring him back to a new body. So he'd be stuck as a "less than a ghost but still alive" form forever, even if the Horcruxes were never found. It's sort of exactly what happened to Sauron in Return of the King when his Ring (which sort of was a Hrocrux itself (though without involving murder), allowing him to survive the destruction of his body with the sinking of Numenor, and again when his body was destroyed with his defeat by the Last Alliance.) However, this time, though still alive, his body was gone forever and he was basically left to wander forever as a spirit of malice that really couldn't do anything. A similar fate may well have befell Voldermort, even if he had won. Also, it's stated in Goblet of Fire that Voldermort, even with Horcruxes, could grow unhealthy, when he tells Wormtail off for wanting to leave him for a bit, perhaps to get some other wizard to use for the rebirthing ritual, stating that him leaving would rob him of the little bit of health he'd regained under his clumsy care. Granted, I suppose Voldemort could keep drinking unicorn blood to keep his body from collapse, but it's not a one time thing, as Voldermort's possession was killing Quirrel and it's clear, from what Hagrid had said, that a couple of unicorns had been killed already, besides the one Harry found dead. So clearly you can't just kill one and use it to restore yourself forever.

[@irishman8850]

I had an idea of a video: what would happen if you hit a dragon with avada kedavra? Be cool to know if the spell can work on any species or just certain ones

[@zokora3656]

Its a fact that it only works on certain species. Hagrid got hit once and survived.

[@wafflingmean4477]

@@zokora3656 Either that or more powerful creatures take more than one hit to kill.

[@zokora3656]

@@gracchus7782 it most likely depends on the inherent magical power a creature has aswell as its mass

[@Pearleace]

@@zokora3656 when did Hagrid get hit? i honestly can't remember.

[@muffinlord3168]

@@Pearleace I think during the seven potters

[@Kreln1221]

*I've always felt that Voldemort's Horcruxes in Rowling's **_Wizarding World_** were uncannily similar to Lich's Phylacteries in Gygax's 1st ed. **_AD&D._* 🤔

[@KnightsRealm98]

Evil wizards putting their soul/essence into something else is far from new. Throughout mythology, history, and fiction, we have such figures as Rasputin, Koschei the Deathless, Sauron, and several ancient Sith Lords.

[@papashort13]

Awesome video!

[@ibtiago18]

Something I think people tend to get wrong about the destruction of horcroxes: basillysk venom and fiendfire don't have the abillity to dissolve soul fragments. Both cause damage that can not be repaired, not even by magical arts. Phoenix tears can neutralize basillsk venom and promote the healing of a living being. They can't repair an inanimate object though. That's why the inanimate horcroxes were destroied by the venom but Harry didn't. Living horcroxes have to die or go trough death for the piece soul to be destroied because, otherwise they can repair themselves.

[@jabberjay5749]

I believe that giving a part of the body is the most realistic part of the ritual, but I also believe the ritual involves a second part. This other part I believe involves consuming part of a snake, most realistically drinking some of a snakes blood, and this makes sense to me for many reasons. The first is that snakes have long been associated with the dark arts, and the creator of horcruxes was heavily involved with them. I believe this part of the ritual would essentially have the snakes soul help keep the soul rippers soul from entirely collapsing, not replacing the bit of soul, merely hold the broken soul together. This effort would kill the snake as it's soul is less complex then a humans, and less subject to withstand ripping it. This explains why the only 2 known horcrux creators became snakelike, as part of their soul was bonded with a snakes, and also why the more Voldemort made, the more snakelike he became as more and more snakes bonded to his damaged soul. I believe this also explains nagini's unusual relationship with Voldemort, because as we know from the first book, human souls and minds are more complex, and nagini although a snake is actually human but is in a snake form due to a blood curse. This means her soul was able to stay alive when it ripped to repair Voldemort's soul as he made the eight horcrux. Because this horcrux was nagini, i believe it acted as almost a soul exchange in some ways, which is why Voldemort loved nagini so dearly, as he only truly loved himself, and part of that connection was nagini's soul inside him as well. The only whole in this theory is Harry being a horcrux, but i think this could be due to the fact that no snake was required to keep Voldemort together, as the act had involuntarily ripped his soul apart, meaning his soul had effectively destroyed himself, and possibly why snake venom from nagini was required to give him a partial body, as this once again is a snake holding the soul and body of this person together. I'm happy for people to pick it apart if they wish, it will propably just help build a more concrete theory on their creation.

[@dariantroon3237]

4:44 I think the best evidence would be that they’re called Death Eaters

[@Gamble9110]

Do you think the Veil inside the ministry of magic that claimed Sirius’s soul could remove the soul or possibly destroy the or a horcrux if it was tossed into the Veil…??? 👀👀

[@AustynSN]

Similar interesting question I've heard is whether or not a dementor could destroy a horcrux.

[@Gamble9110]

@@AustynSN I have heard that as well.

[@PenguinPrince34]

I’ve pictured it as being like the scene in Anastasia depicting rasputin and creating his talisman

[@blarfroer8066]

I wonder if there are some powers above normal magic, primeval light and darkness, similar to what Lukianenko put into his books. Maybe creating a horcrux needs the power of primeval darkness. Murder will summon it, but the murderer will have to sacrifice themselves in order to create a horcrux, making them more and more inhuman with every horcrux.

[@newares8140]

I think that the creation of a horocrux is something no human can truly achieve on its own rather it being done by death itself. Each horocrux if it indeed was made by murdered is probably a token or tribute to death itself. Maybe a hourocrux is death tearing your soul and giving you “inmortality” in exchange for someone else’s death. It’s like the a deathly hollows, but instead a bargain.

[@zachwoolley6104]

Does anyone know if Harry can still talk to snakes I’ve always assumed he cannot but I don’t know if that is accurate

[@99snubby]

Im still hung up on having his basilisk kill the girl and makes a hororcrux out of the act how if riddle didn't do the action himself? And wouldn't her body be poisoned so riddle could not eat any?

[@AustynSN]

The basilisk was just the weapon. If Riddle uses the killing curse, his wand isn't the killer, just the weapon. If Riddle uses a rifle, the gun isn't the killer, just the weapon. The real debate becomes why we make wands so plentiful that psychos like Riddle can get one and start murdering people with wanton abandon.

[@RossYT94]

My question is this one: since Voldemort body got destroyed the moment he attacked Harry, how could the ritual to create an Horcrux be performed? Was the ritual performed before attacking Harry (hence he didn’t need to be in his physical form) or is it enough for the soul to be split enough times to just fly out from the body and attach to a body? Also, the soul could’ve attached itself to literally any inanimate object or living being but still chose Harry, but maybe that’s just because it was Voldemort intention to begin with. It seems like Harry was quite a peculiar Horcrux as it was created without any ritual.

[@plotholedetective4166]

If herpo the foul was the only other wizard to have ever made a horcrux how is it known that remorse could destroy a horcrux? Obviously Voldemort never destroyed any of his own horcrux via remorse and we only discovered the basilisk venom method during the chamber of secrets . If herpo is dead at the time of the story that means his horcrux was destroyed, did herpo destroy it himself seeking redemption?

[@possibear]

i think the killing curse is required or at least is the best(easiest) way to make a horcrux. you need to INTENTIONALLY kill someone meaning INTENTIONALLY split your soul via killing. We all probably know a REQUIREMENT for the killing curse is INTENT to affirmatively kill the person your cursing. Also i think you need a magical item, probably the stronger the magical item is the stronger the vessel will be, to host the horcrux kind of like a battery.

[@albino5995]

I find cannibalism unlikely since there were no signs of damage on the victims. Instead I think necrophilia to be much more plausible being as it is a horrific act and still connects to the ‘life’ aspect of the horcrux. Maybe the spell is made on the creator and victim to bind them and maybe after the act the ‘seed’ what contains the soul fragment and that is extracted and used to bind to the desired item. Sounds like something that would be seen as unthinkable to me.

[@Pearleace]

interesting, but apparently the ritual is performed before the act of murder, which is the last step. so, it doesn't involve the bodies.

[@svetlamarinova2407]

Can you please tell me, what the music is in the video? I like it, thanks.

[@LordFoxxyFoxington]

How dangerous would a painting of Voldemort be?

[@nathanmitchell2827]

I think it requires layers of sacrifice, one would have to sacrifice their own flesh, somebody else’s flesh, as well as one’s own soul. I think this would mean that one sacrifices one’s sanity as well, whether that be by magical means or whether is is a natural consequence of what one is doing. I also think it would be a very specific murder, which would include a specific way to kill somebody.

[@SirPippintheNotsoSmart]

I think it's from one's own body. The locket, when opened, had eyes looking at Harry and Ron when they went to destroy it. Who knows?

[@AtelierFleur]

This is Voldemort talking repeat. This is Voldemort talking

[@prinzejulio]

I think lots of other wizards and witches have made horocruxes but I think that if you plan to live a long life is good to keep low profile

[@macwelch8599]

Do you have to use the Dark Arts to make a horucrux?

[@Owensti]

Yes like Avada Kedavra.

[@macwelch8599]

@@Owensti cool

[@matheuslima9445]

Making a horcrux IS a dark art

[@dukenukemforever6912]

Harry wasn't killed by the basilisk fang, he was stabbed in the arm, later healed by phoenix tear. Which makes sense, the venom never reached the part of voldemort's soul inside Harry.

[@TheBigGuppy]

If building a horcux requires specific ritual then how does one produce an ‘accidental’ horcrux?

[@chromeshellking]

As it was speculated by Albus. The degree which Tom was willing to go in terms of how far he wanted left him more and more unstable with each fragmenting.

[@barbiquearea]

The fact Harry wasn't a complete Horcrux meant he and by extension the piece of Voldemort's soul were more vulnerable compared to a proper Horcrux. This was shown when Harry was briefly killed by Voldemort with the killing curse. To how Harry was able to become a Horcrux in the first place, well in my opinion being flesh and bones he was more like a vessel that piece of Voldemort's soul was occupying than a talisman to anchor him to the mortal realm. Upon the first time he died, that piece of his soul broke away from the rest of him and attached itself to an infant Harry.

[@edopronk1303]

One theory is that you have to do the biggest part before the murder, and that Harry's death was meant for a genuine Horcrux, with the Sword of Griffindor. The supercarlinbrothers have a video about it