Who Is The Heir of GRYFFINDOR? - Harry Potter Theory

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@Spawned-uy8ip
@Spawned-uy8ip 6 ай бұрын
I can't help but think the Weasleys are the heirs of Gryffindor. Unless those pictures were fan made, I'd say the Weasleys match Godric's looks to a tee. He also kind of liked Muggles just like Aurthur. All of the Weasleys were sorted into Gryffindor. I think Ron said his family always went to Gryffindor. Dumbledore said the Weasleys were an old, influential pureblood family.
@fishandjam5383
@fishandjam5383 6 ай бұрын
3:12 How does that shut down the possibility of Harry being Gryffindor's heir? Would J.K. have said so if he was, even though his grandparents, great grandparents, etc. weren't important to the story?
@campbellkenney4395
@campbellkenney4395 6 ай бұрын
I think if they were important to the plot Jk would have mentioned them sometime. If his ancestors besides the peverel brothers were important she would have def mentioned them. Even if not important to the plot but important to a character or backstory she would have included them so having no other important relatives shuts down the possibility unless the peverell brothers were related to Godric gryffindor.
@AquaMarin-ww3qx
@AquaMarin-ww3qx 6 ай бұрын
There is one point more for it, I think I remember that at one point Neville tells that the Sorting Hat wanted to make him at Gryffindor, but Neville felt Gryffindor's reputation for bravery intimidating and wanted to be a Hufflepuff. And it took a long time till Neville gave up and the Hat put him into Gryffindor. The hat might to have felt that Voldemort was the heir and put him into Slytherin. If he felt the same about Neville to Gryffindor it would explain why he disregarded Nevilles pleading.
@macwelch8599
@macwelch8599 6 ай бұрын
The two most obvious choices are Harry and Neville
@macwelch8599
@macwelch8599 6 ай бұрын
I hope I’m right about Neville
@nobodyuknow6337
@nobodyuknow6337 6 ай бұрын
Would have been funny if the Weasley's were all descended from Gryphon. They entire LARGE family were all in the same house and - it would have burn the Malfoy's proverbial biscuits to learn that!
@BoHorn
@BoHorn 6 ай бұрын
Way better answer tbh
@AustynSN
@AustynSN 6 ай бұрын
Why would Harry's family (other than Petunia) all being dead preclude him from being the heir of Gryffindor? Just because his family is gone doesn't change who his ancestors are. Heck, given how long ago it was, any heirs could be anybody. (There might be more than one even.) Maybe one of Godric Gryffindor's descendants was a squib. In that case, it could be a muggle born like Hermione or Lilly. In the case of the latter, that would mean that not only is Harry an heir of Gryffindor, but that Dudley is too. Heck, who's to say it's even somebody with any magical capability? Maybe Dudley is the heir of Gryffindor on his father's side. Not only would that make Dudley and Vernon heirs of Gryffindor, but Marge as well. How hilariously pissed would Vernon be to find out that one of his ancestors wasn't just a wizard, but one of the most famous and powerful wizards of all time. Not just that, but one of the founders of the very school where his hated nephew attended and the founder of said nephew's own house. And that nephew was so much like that ancestor that he's one of only three or four people alive known to have been judged by that ancestor's most prized possession of wielding said possession.
@weswheel4834
@weswheel4834 6 ай бұрын
Was it just me screaming “Neville” as soon as the question was asked?
@marting9112
@marting9112 3 ай бұрын
I had this theory too for some time. It could be very possible that not Harry, but Neville is the heir of Gryffindor, and that the prophecy of the Chosen One referred to him all along. I think this was also foreshadowed in the first book/film, when it was Neville who ultimately won Gryffindor the House Cup against Slytherin - for the first time in years. And it was also Neville who dealt the final blow to Voldemort's demise. But I also think that it was meant to be that people, and especially Voldemort, believed that Harry was the Chosen One, instead of Neville. If Voldemort believed that Neville was the Chosen One, he would have gone after him. And with no parents to protect the infant Neville, he would have been killed.
@ethans9379
@ethans9379 6 ай бұрын
Of course, there would be no heir of Ravenclaw, thanks to a certain baron
@Winterfur1
@Winterfur1 6 ай бұрын
You can have more than one child Helena might’ve just been the oldest or resembled her mother more then the others
@ethans9379
@ethans9379 6 ай бұрын
@@Winterfur1 maybe, but the story we’ve been told hasn’t been framed that way
@Quintesince
@Quintesince 6 ай бұрын
I'd say they were both Heirs of Griffindor. One they both always played a part in foiling Voldemorts and his followers' efforts. Two, they both matched the potential of the prophecy, but it was up to Voldemort to decide which of them was his equal. And three, they both pulled the Sword from the Sorting Hat, and it clearly states that only a True Griffindor can pull the sword from his hat. Just as only the true heir of Slytherin could command the Basilisk. So I would say they are both heirs of Griffindor and possibly distant relatives.
@Lupinemancer87
@Lupinemancer87 6 ай бұрын
I can't be the only one who think it's a bit odd that there is a language for snakes associated with Slytherin, but not a lion, eagle, or badger language for the other houses.
@GuyWestcott
@GuyWestcott 6 ай бұрын
Given that the pure blood families are all interrelated (according to Sirius), wouldn't that mean that if one of them is descended from Gryffindor, pretty much all of them are?
@I_am_Areeba24x7
@I_am_Areeba24x7 6 ай бұрын
Inbreeding! 💀 Then I don't think so that Godric gryffindor would have been dancing in the afterlife. 😂😂😂
@billhughlett2139
@billhughlett2139 6 ай бұрын
I think your forgetting that Harry Potter also pulled the sword out of the sorting hat in the chamber of Secrets
@tsfxflash576
@tsfxflash576 6 ай бұрын
I literally was researching this earlier today lol, BTW great video
@bailatwerski2951
@bailatwerski2951 6 ай бұрын
Absolutely great theory about the Longbottoms being descended of godric Gryffindor
@jacegallagher8589
@jacegallagher8589 6 ай бұрын
I've always wondered who are the more skilled/stronger group of wizards between the Peverell brothers and the Founders of Hogwarts.
@Uberdude6666
@Uberdude6666 6 ай бұрын
Cool theory! But I think the points you bring up can easily be brought up for other candidates as well. Harry was able to pull the sword of Gryffindor out of the hat as well, and we know that any Gryffindor who is pure of heart and needs it, can do it. As for coming from Godric's Hollow, Dumbledore's family does so too, right? I think Dumbledore certainly is the most "safe" bet for Gryffindor's heir, almost to the point where its a bit predictable and boring... But what about the Weasley-family? They are synonymous with Gryffindor, so to speak. Much more so than the Gaunt-family was for Slytherin, surely? I think the whole concept of having a "destined heir" to the house's founder is in itself specific for Slytherin though. They are the ones who are preoccupied with all the bloodline-shenanigans and stuff. I think the Gryffindor-attitude very much is about personal merit and skill, rather than being in the right family. The "True heir of Gryffindor" would be someone who embodies all the right Gryffindor-ideals, rather than whoever happens to trace their lineage back to Godric himself.
@PKG-vo8du
@PKG-vo8du 6 ай бұрын
Personally i believe that the Prewett family (Molly Weasley) are the descendants of Gryffindor. Their last name is based on a Welsh word for bravery, something Gryffindor is all about, also Molly's brothers fought valiantly against 5 death eaters before they died a heroes death. Also we all know Molly becomes a beast with no fear when she protects her loved ones. It could also explain how Black woman where able to marry Prewetts without being disowned even thou they don't believe in blood purity and have married muggle-borns and halfbloods.
@hansbystrom9983
@hansbystrom9983 6 ай бұрын
I doubt there can be a better candidate for this than Neville. Are there any doubters..? There are so many arguments for it: 1) He stands up to his friends, which Dumbledore points out takes more courage than standing up against your enemies 2) He challenges his own fears. He had quite the character development, mostly because his constant bravery against his own fear 3) The sorting hat went against Neville's own wishes. Maybe because the hat knew? 4) This guy DOES NOT GIVE UP. When Harry is dead, when all is lost, when the war seems to be over and Voldemort has won..... Neville rallies the forces to keep fighting. He told Harry this when he suspected that Harry would give up. He said they would continue to fight, and clearly this guy will never surrender to evil. Ever. Remember in Department of Mysteries, when threatened to be killed if Harry does not hand the prophecy over? Neville didn't even blink. Literally zero hesitation even when faced with potential death. Neville is truly one of the most impressive and inspiring characters in the story, alongside Ginny. He is a true blue Gryffindoor, and most likely the heir. No one is near his level of bravery. (Also, I like the theory that Neville was confunded early on as child to treat his trauma, which would make his progress even more impressive, since he had to battle chronic confundus charm)
@grec.
@grec. 6 ай бұрын
If anything, i think The Weasleys. Red hair, all sorted in Griffindor. Very brave. And Ron also pull out the Sword out the lake.
@AlexMason-45
@AlexMason-45 6 ай бұрын
But the sword never appeared for Ron like it did Harry and Neville snape was the one who put the sword there
@grec.
@grec. 6 ай бұрын
@@AlexMason-45 I know, but he was able to pick it up and use it. So a true Gryffindor as well. ✌️
@AlexMason-45
@AlexMason-45 6 ай бұрын
@@grec. That's not really how it works anyone can pick up the sword it's about whether or not the sword appears for you like it did for Harry and Neville picking the sword up doesn't mean anything considering snape was able to pick it up to begin with
@grec.
@grec. 6 ай бұрын
@@AlexMason-45 Yeah, that's right. It appears to a true Gryffindor. However, it appears to at least two known Gryffindor (Harry/Neville) so in my opinion, if the sword appears to a Gryffindor it only means they belong to the house, it's not an exclusive evidence of being Gryffindor's true heir. You may not agree with my other points that to me could link The Weasleys to Goodrich. But the sword appearing to any true Gryffindor is not a proof of them being the true heir either.
@AlexMason-45
@AlexMason-45 6 ай бұрын
@@grec. Yes but I highly doubt Weasleys are the descendents of Gryffindor since he isn't known to have any the closest we have was JK Rowlings original idea of making Gryffindor an ancestor of Harry
@dineyashworth8578
@dineyashworth8578 6 ай бұрын
How does Harry's grandparents being dead mean JK Rowling said he isn't a descendant of Godric Gryffindor? Sounds to me he still could be.
@eranshachar9954
@eranshachar9954 6 ай бұрын
Wow interesting. I think it could be possible. In my head I think about "Voldemort Origins Of The Heir" where the heir is Grisha McLaggen. I know it is of course a fan film, however the McLaggen family may also be related to Godric directly. I assume they wouldn't pull it out of nowhere you know.
@Ehrenhaider_Akainu
@Ehrenhaider_Akainu 6 ай бұрын
Hey great video and very interesting topic, one question: do you know about Jba Fofi the giant spider congo cryptid? Could it exist in the HP universe as Acromantulas living in the congo jungle?
@elenanovikova8131
@elenanovikova8131 6 ай бұрын
I fully agree with you about Nevil Longmottom, he really deserves it!👍👏👏
@spencertaylor-mrliltay
@spencertaylor-mrliltay 6 ай бұрын
I'm sorry, did I miss something? I don't see how those quotes from J.K. Rowling debunk the possibility of Harry being an heir to Gryffindor. All I got from those quotes was just simply an explanation why all of Harry's relatives were dead by the time of the books. Just because his ancestors were dead that doesn't matter to whether or not they descended from Gryffindor. What part of that interview did I miss or misunderstand?
@Spawned-uy8ip
@Spawned-uy8ip 6 ай бұрын
I could have sworn she debunked that thing about Harry being Godric's heir. He just got the wrong quote.
@WiccanRai
@WiccanRai 6 ай бұрын
This is what I was thinking. Aren't both Voldemort and Harry descendants of the Peverell brothers? The resurrection stone eventually going to the Gaunts, via Slytherin and the invisibility cloak handed down to the Potters. It's not proof but it makes it easier to see how it could work. Harry's paternal grandparents dying before Harry's birthday doesn't prove they're not descendants in any way. Most pureblood families are distantly related in some way.
@stephaniepage4334
@stephaniepage4334 4 ай бұрын
Lily might be Gryffindor distant direct descendants because they both have same eyes and red hair?maybe godric child or grandchild was squib?
@Spawned-uy8ip
@Spawned-uy8ip 4 ай бұрын
@@stephaniepage4334 I think that might be the only way harry could be related to Godric. Rowling traced a clear line to the guy that started the Potter line. James was distantly related to Salazar with one of his great, great, great (and further on) uncles marrying a Guant, or maybe if was an aunt. But at NO point did any of the Potter lines trace back to Godric. Now we know absolutely NOTHING about Lily's ancestry since Rowling never even bothered to even name her parents. Rowling idolized the Potter family though, making one of Harry's ancestors the leader of the original 12 Aurors of MACUSA. She named him "Abraham Potter". But she seemed to not care at all about Lily's family. And I thought she was a hardcore feminist.
@mecahhannah
@mecahhannah 6 ай бұрын
❤ I think it's dumbledore! Awesome as always thanks!
@Donnyjohnsonbooks
@Donnyjohnsonbooks 6 ай бұрын
Neville is my first choice but Dumbledore would make more sense as it would create a duality between Voldimort and himself each being heirs.
@hansbystrom9983
@hansbystrom9983 6 ай бұрын
Dumbledore had an early campaign together with Grindelwald to dominate the muggles. Clearly not a true heir of Gryffindor..
@maksimilian528
@maksimilian528 6 ай бұрын
What's the background music? I always wonder
@grokeffer6226
@grokeffer6226 6 ай бұрын
This theory makes good sense. Bottom land can make good farmland, with any precipitation seeping downwards and collecting in the low-lying area. Beaver dams and Lochs might be located there, too. I always felt empathy for Neville, with his toad mysteriously disappearing and then re-appearing the way that he did. 🐸🤔🤨🧐 I mean, where did Trevor go? 🪄🔮🎱
@hollywoodnoire
@hollywoodnoire 5 ай бұрын
I highly believe that Harry Potter is the heir of Gryffindor since he was born in Godric’s Hollow which explains why the sword chose him
@stephaniepage4334
@stephaniepage4334 4 ай бұрын
Is it possible that harry direct descendants from Gryffindor via lily side of family because they both have same eyes and red hair?so maybe godric kid or grandchild was squib?
@katmcgowen2124
@katmcgowen2124 6 ай бұрын
I you look into Harry's roots. He has to be the heir, due to Gryffindor's daughter married into the potter family
@Godwins7
@Godwins7 27 күн бұрын
Bathilda Bagshot was descended from Gryffindor
@eliasthienpont6330
@eliasthienpont6330 6 ай бұрын
🦁🦁🦁🦁🦁 THE LION WAS HERE 🦁🦁🦁🦁🦁 No. 503 >>----------> Yes, Harry's Grandparents, that line can be traced back almost as far as Gryffindor himself. But there is another line that must be looked into, the line of Evens. Witches do not pop into existence out of nothing. Clearly there was magical lineage in the Evens' family tree. Now my own personal research into this connection demonstrates a latent magical connection in the Evens line dating back to the 1600s where issues are unclear, what with intermarriages and all, but examination of Hogwarts' records from the time period showed a number of Evens in attendance although that name seemed to have dropped off before the 1700s, although that too may have been due to intermarriages, but there were far too many Evans students in the 1600s for that to be the case. But the line had certainly gone into hibernation until the Time of Lilly. And remember that Lilly was friends with Severus Snape. Mr. Snape was certainly a muggle, but clearly Mrs. Snape was not. She too had parents and grandparents, and while of no blood relation to Harry it is well known that Severus would visit his grandfather in the summertime, and among other things, Harry was a topic of conversation between them. Thus when it was known that Harry was the last person to see Professor Snape alive the Grandfather, I believe his name was Manfred Higgins, who got in touch with Minerva McGonnagal and arranged to meet Harry at Hogwarts on the pretext of wanting to know more about the death of his grandson. I cannot begin to tell you how filthy rich Manfred was, suffice it to say that he owned most of the county west of Manchester, and collected land rents on most of it. Mrs. Snape, now deceased, was his only heir, and he looked at Harry as a possible heir to his holdings. But it may be interesting that the Evens' lived in a building that they rented from Manfred Higgins, and so he was aware at least of the Evens' family, and of Severus' interest in Lilly. From the tales of the LION as yet unpublished. As yet only partially written. Well, I am up to chapter two. Well part of chapter two, but it is hard to trace wizarding history back to the year 480.
@stephaniepage4334
@stephaniepage4334 4 ай бұрын
Is lily Gryffindor great great great great great great great great great great great granddaughter because they both have same eyes and red hair?maybe godric child or grandchild was squib?
@QALibrary
@QALibrary 6 ай бұрын
Question would have Tom Riddle have an account at Greengrouts and wonder how much money and other things would be inside it?
@johndeltuvia7892
@johndeltuvia7892 6 ай бұрын
Riddle was a half-blood. So why didn't the basilisk eat him, saving everyone a lot of trouble? :-)
@ramandeepsingh8173
@ramandeepsingh8173 6 ай бұрын
Everyone here is discussing Harry and Neville However i think that Dumbledore is the true heir of Gryffindor.
@LyleFrancisDelp
@LyleFrancisDelp 6 ай бұрын
Dumbledore. GryffinDOR. DumbleDORE.
@classicmiriam
@classicmiriam 6 ай бұрын
It would either need to be Neville or a Weasley.
@AlexMason-45
@AlexMason-45 6 ай бұрын
It has to be either Harry or Neville outside of those 2 there were no truer Gryffindors then them
@jkrause365
@jkrause365 6 ай бұрын
Quite interesting.
@weswheel4834
@weswheel4834 6 ай бұрын
I missed a step. Why couldn’t Harry have been it?
@willjadenhogarth
@willjadenhogarth 6 ай бұрын
Hi what's up? 😮
@Spawned-uy8ip
@Spawned-uy8ip 6 ай бұрын
Rowling drew a direct line between the Potters and the Peverells.
@weswheel4834
@weswheel4834 6 ай бұрын
@Spawned-uy8ip True, but can't you be related to more than one family?
@2102082
@2102082 6 ай бұрын
​@@weswheel4834 I think JK Rowling said on Pottermore that Harry was not descended from Gryfindor. iirc she originally planned it, but with the Peverell connection she decided it would have been too many connections for one character
@yspegel
@yspegel 6 ай бұрын
I'm sure, despite the voldy horcrux, the sorting hat wouldn't want to place him in slitherin if he were.
@nicita27
@nicita27 6 ай бұрын
If we account for the inbreeding wizards tend to do and the 40+ generations thats passed i would say everyone.
@susanclay4225
@susanclay4225 6 ай бұрын
It could be Dumbledore
@TheFatJohnny
@TheFatJohnny 6 ай бұрын
Dumbledore not the heir to gryffindor?
@animeboy400
@animeboy400 6 ай бұрын
How about the Lovegood's being descendants of Ralina Ravenclaw?
@saintzeroinfinity
@saintzeroinfinity 6 ай бұрын
Neat theory but, Rowena Ravencroft’s only daughter died before having any children.
@animeboy400
@animeboy400 6 ай бұрын
@@saintzeroinfinity we don't know that for sure
@Spawned-uy8ip
@Spawned-uy8ip 6 ай бұрын
Maybe. Another content creator linked Ravenclaw to the Lestrange and Black families. Who really knows?
@2102082
@2102082 6 ай бұрын
I had this same thought, then after considering that Rowena Ravenclaw only had the one daughter that was killed, Luna Lovegood can't be descended from Rowena, but what if Rowena had a sister or brother and the Lovegoods have a shared bloodline with the old Ravenclaw family.
@ahmedehab_11
@ahmedehab_11 6 ай бұрын
Why can’t it be Dumbledore lol
@joegadberry2221
@joegadberry2221 6 ай бұрын
👍
@robertnykvist1810
@robertnykvist1810 6 ай бұрын
Dumbledore Gryfinndor and slytherin are the greatest wizards of all time. dumbledore and voldemort are the most powerful wizards. To be so powerful, must be in where blood.
@TheSilent_123
@TheSilent_123 6 ай бұрын
Dumbledore can also be the descendent of Merlin himself and then it is also in his blood to be that strong
@michaelcertain415
@michaelcertain415 6 ай бұрын
This is a reach. Anything could be true, but nothing presented is compelling enough to come to the conclusion that Neville is Gryffindor's heir.
@melanievetter6211
@melanievetter6211 6 ай бұрын
😊🎉✨️🎊🦁
@carolinemcbride822
@carolinemcbride822 16 күн бұрын
Not a thing
@NoneofyourBusiness-iv6pi
@NoneofyourBusiness-iv6pi 6 ай бұрын
NOOOOOO, you just contributed to a zillion Lord Potter, Black, Peverell, Slytherin, Gryphindor fanfics and Harry has to have a different wife for each lordship to produce an heir.................there are actually fanfics like this and they suck
@johnbransby6231
@johnbransby6231 6 ай бұрын
I do not buy Neville as Gryffinfor. Harry also pulled the sword out of hat and there is no indication that the Longbottoms are from Goodrich’s hallowed. It is possible there is no longer a heir to Gryffindore, his line might have died out.
@onlyfromadistance7326
@onlyfromadistance7326 6 ай бұрын
Neville if it must be a pure blood. Maybe Hermione if not...
@piotrdworowy183
@piotrdworowy183 6 ай бұрын
I just needed them out of the way do I've killed them - if it was not about a book ,it would sound very sinister 😂😊
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