Volkswagen ID.3 real-world review. How far can VW's benchmark EV really go on one charge?

[@benedictmarshall7031]

So refreshing for a KZbin video not to start with “Hi guys”! No overacting. Just a simple, calm description.

[@SteveBUK73]

"Hi guys, I'm Schmarry!" 😁

[@LarryKippings]

Cheeers!

[@p00pie]

schmee cringe

[@flyingdutchman4you]

or worse: "Hi kids".......

[@RQCK0N]

BM - I agree - there's no substitute for class and having an extensive skill set.

[@nightshifted]

Harry’s subtly becoming the best source of car reviews in the world...

[@garethneal82]

He created probably the best car magazine in the world. Nothing subtle about it bud. 😉

[@trevorleggo1777]

Not becoming, always was... good observation though..

[@johncollymore1697]

Yes, he always was. And is.

[@mtumasz]

Completely misguided when it comes to EVs. Dinosaur praising dinosaur juice memories of former glory.

[@PowerslideSWE]

@@mtumasz He's telling it like he sees it, and he does have a point, a car is supposed to do car things such as take you on a relatively short trip at motorway speeds with the heater on in the winter, stuff like that.

[@fredbarron8582]

I loathe touch screens in cars, they simply aren't suitable for something like a moving vehicle.

[@edkramer5592]

Whoever thought they were has only ever driven cars virtually.

[@marcob1729]

@@edkramer5592 more like they thought it would be a great way to sell a car

[@Jack-bf6hv]

They are always slow and cumbersome within a couple of years too

[@Cowley46]

Totally agree, they are a liability.

[@ralphelliot1840]

Totally agree I have a Lexus IS 300 Hybrid no touch screen either voice activated or a simple rotary dial, VW are losing the plot, the car is a lemon come SSD and Hydrogen within 5 years and VW will have egg on their faces

[@PrimeMatt]

1800kg!!! How can these touch screens be legal! They are so dangerous, more so than using your own phone, which is not legal.

[@GrandTheftChris]

The last time I fiddled around to get a casette tape into the car radio in 1994 it was legal.

[@BlatentlyFakeName]

They should'nt be and rumors are the law might be changed to make it illigal to use while driving lol. Similar to phones. So you could get fined for altering the AC and heating.

[@RomainSandt]

When you drive a petrol car, the range changes all the time, depending on resting fuel and instant consumption.

[@paulamblerart]

"...what`s the difference between using a mobile phone or fiddling with that display whilst driving...?" X=0.

[@mgutkowski]

What's the difference between a mobile phone candour car's stereo?

[@patrickjr11]

I do think the Honda E is a series of accidents waiting to happen given the number of distracting screens. What were Honda thinking?

[@AsinineComment]

What does the candour of my phone have to do with anything, @@mgutkowski ? To be perfectly honest, I can go days without considering the honesty of any screen device in my home or car.

[@TheRealHCTurk]

Your phone won't freeze.

[@patrickjr11]

@captain pugwash I completely agree. I wonder if Honda are hoping that no one buys it so helping to prove that ice cars are better. Mazda are doing something similar with the MX-30 which is a really odd car now, 5 years ago perhaps but now? Not sure both those companies will survive the EV transition with attitudes like that. I get really small EVs are tough to make at a profit, given the battery size compromise. Even the ID1 will be Polo size, according to the press. I think the Zoe and the fiat 500e leave the Honda in the dust. But then I am old enough to care about practicalities over the wow factor.

[@geriatricmotorcars9516]

The frozen Screen did it for me ' No thanks Imagine getting stuck and relying on that ' Take you hand of the wheel and ping .. Could not embrace that

[@tiguanman1170]

He knew where he was going anyway. Imagine relying on satnav, screen freezes, you get lost, run out of range and roll to a halt. Me? Diesel Mondeo and TomTom.

[@curranhouse]

press and hold the screen power button and it reboots takes about 10 seconds.

[@iMANTlS]

From all the last century's lethal supercars, only an ID.3 took Harry's blood.

[@pc2726]

They drew first blood..

[@ME10920]

Name the car Christine

[@davidlee4966]

Makes a mockery of all the testing and analysis to obtain CE marking

[@samsonian]

It’s always the unassuming ones that catch you off-guard... Don’t know about anyone else, but as far as I’m concerned white tactile controls belong in only 2 places: concept cars and really expensive bicycles where it’s a statement of how pro you are that you’re willing to replace your bar tape every month or less.

[@earthstick]

Don't let Hammond near one.

[@sandyneedham6499]

Harry is civilized and polite (and practical) about a range of cars, not only super cars, but more modest ones too. He and Jay Leno are the class acts in this automotive review business.

[@ianthomas7863]

My Dad(RIP), told me: "never buy the 1st, model of any car, there crap". Good review Harry. Thanks.👍👍

[@EazyDuz18]

your dad couldnt spell

[@AB-80X]

@@EazyDuz18 Lol, that was my first thought as well.

[@thetruth7633]

It is a sin if you touch your phone in the car but I guess it is OK to scroll through a menu on a cars ipad adjusting your heater?

[@nickturner2813]

"It is a sin if you touch your phone in the car..." Since when?

[@jagman84]

Nick Turner The UK police have been prosecuting lone drivers for picking up their phone whilst driving. They use HGVs on motorways and dual carriageways, to see into the cars(and other HGVs) and pull them over for the offence.

[@thetruth7633]

Nick Turner in The Netherlands 270 Euro fine, and when caught for the 2nd time in one year means suspension of driver lincense. They have modified mobile Gatso cameras on top of viaducts to scan cars 😐

[@stubones]

@@nickturner2813 LOL, just got your licence?

[@o2i3u5klwerh8]

All of that is very interesting but I still would take that golf.

[@TriviaChallenge]

And pay£200 a month in fuel and much more in tax, servicing, BIK, etc, etc.

[@SledgeFox]

Agreed! 👍 I couldn't care less about electric cars but I really hope for a Golf GTI I episode!

[@Neojhun]

Rather have a Kona EV.

[@johncollymore1697]

@@SledgeFox - yes, let's hope for Harry's views on that Golf GTI Mk1 on his next video! EV's? Harry's done enough on them for the time being, though didn't mention the e-Golf, Mustang Mach E or Citroen Ami!!! Cheers.

[@xchopp]

I dunno tho. I got an e-Golf and it is golden -- but I'd still buy an ID.3 _if_ _I_ _could_

[@GadgetMart]

Messing with that screen is a lot like texting on your phone

[@SunWindWave]

Totally agree, can't believe they have followed Peuguot (308) & not having simple rotary dials for important functions.

[@sasajungic89]

Yeah. I dont like where manufacturers are going with the interior design. This will also look really old, really quickly

[@WestfieldFreshAir]

Same with most of these systems these days.

[@VFR-rs5um]

@@sasajungic89 yep, a white steering wheel. That will look grubby really quickly.

[@MrRandomcommentguy]

@@VFR-rs5um I'm sure that'll be an option...

[@johnathankain8033]

We all lived with nonsense range / mpg in ICE cars because refilling takes 5 mins. When getting more range takes much longer, they need to be more accurate.

[@topcat4265]

I simpathise but that completely depends on your driving style, the weather, speed, the terrain & traffic. The WLTP has never been accurate. We need to be accustom to knocking 20% off what the WLTP give us.

[@BlatentlyFakeName]

Probably like MPG, they test it with no AC on, no heating, tape up panel gaps, drive like an old woman, etc. So it's not a realistic figure. In a petrol/diesel car losing 50 miles on a tank isn't a big deal, but it is on an EV. That is the difference between getting to your destination and waiting hours for a tow and recharge. Because if it goes flat, you are stuffed even if you are only a few 100 meters from a charging point. You can't just walk to a petrol station and come back with a jerry can.

[@johnkeepin7527]

Part of the problem is the structure of the WLTP method compared with reality. It’s worth studying the graph of how it works - percentage at different speeds etc, and see if it fits with your normal journeys or not. A trip which is mostly 70 mph is often wildly out in any car - unless you benefit from a tail wind!

[@G.5.B.H.M]

@@BlatentlyFakeName Good answer, you can't get a Jerry can of electricity 😂

[@rogerbyrne9040]

That sharp plastic that attacks you is a special feature of the car when you criticise its range-o-meter.

[@Anirossa]

It just wanted to know his blood type

[@jensdybrofrederiksen7922]

@@Anirossa a paid service to Facebook and google, so they can give you better adds.....

[@peterdalrymple8291]

All digital controls for new VWs is a mistake. Every review I’ve seen of the new Golf or ID.3 the thing freezes or stops working correctly!

[@AndrewTSq]

its also bad for safety since you need to take the eyes from the road to look where you are pointing your fingers. with normal controls you can feel where you are, and still keep your eyes on the road.

[@marknewman6037]

Just had to have a complete new centre display in our Golf, had black screen of death.....

[@ristekostadinov2820]

I don't get it why big tech companies are not contracted to build the infotainment systems. Modern infotainment systems exist for over 5 years and yet not many car manifactures get it right (without lag).

[@cp4512]

“If only everything in life was as reliable as a VW”.......NOT! 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

[@krimke881]

iiit´s a cheap laptop, again :p

[@L555HEP]

That golf though

[@peterpan6821]

👌

[@Pete...NoNotThatOne]

Yep

[@EleanorPeterson]

Hi, Graham! Yes please. A proper motor. In 50 years it'll still be gorgeous.

[@Adam_Lynn]

It's a VW, it just works.... apart from when you can't do anything becasue the screen locks up.

[@coltr7561]

hehe

[@stevemawer848]

And it cuts your thumb off!

[@Adam_Lynn]

@Paul Fellows It's like you read my mind. 100%

[@Anirossa]

Never seen a VW that "just works", my dad did have a Jetta once, where the servo fell off in speed, that was at least interesting

[@TheLongonot62]

'If only every thing in life was as reliable...............' Unfortunately my experience of VW is one of frequent faults and niggles. Had a Touareg that would randomly refuse to unlock on keyless, suddenly be unable to detect the key, and most worryingly, randomly go into limp mode and once did this in the middle of an overtake. It could only be resolved by pulling over, switching off, waiting 30 secs or so and turning it back on. No one could ever find an actual fault. The touchscreen randomly freezing sounds eerily familiar and so very VW.

[@Czechbound]

TIMESTAMP 10:50. It lost me at "frozen screen" .... For that money, that's realy bad

[@timmurphy5541]

The good thing about software is that it can be updated and it will have to be to compete.

[@goodfodder]

ctl-alt-del - what’s the problem?

[@jaymiethomas]

@@goodfodder That it doesn't have Ctrl, Alt, and Delete keys :oP

[@jay-uo2bi]

Well, bugs are fine as long as they get fixed (ID3 does have OTA updating). But the problem is the ID3 has consistently had infotainment crashing issues for many, many months. I wonder if they have been fixed now (January).

[@timmurphy5541]

@@jay-uo2bi I have been reading many of the forums. The 2.0 (pre-release) software seems to be a big improvement but not perfect. I think most issues seem to be around the 12-volt battery drain which was sort of "worked around" in software by automatically recharging it when that happens and quite a lot of other things got better but I don't get the impression that anyone has 0 problems yet. There also seem to be hardware variants and the current update is only for 2 of the 3 variants etc etc etc. It's all just a software project that's been underestimated which I find very unsurprising as a programmer.

[@edwowen]

Why the hell would anyone want a white steering wheel? That's not going to look awful after a few years is it??!

[@vokstar]

The range in electric cars sounds a bit like the quoted MPG figures

[@baginatora]

Indeed :)

[@richardcarter1000]

Indeed. A friend recently bought a new hybrid XC40. MPG is hopeless. My V8 diesel Range Rover is as good.

[@fabriziom]

When people will start to understand that "rated" Miles or mpg is measured on a precise driving cycle and temperatures we'll progress.... With my model 3 I managed to do > 420km which is above rated range, and some other times I hardly do 270km😁

[@FrozenDung]

If you want actual range figures then you want to go to EV data base and they will be correct because they're real world tested

[@1SaG]

Yup... I'd hazard a guess that if your testing procedure is flawed, it doesn't matter if you plug an EV or an ICE-car into it (so to speak) ... the results will always be crap. :)

[@cancracker]

I’ll take the Golf, thank you 😆

[@gerrieannandale6726]

Me too

[@sparky4878]

Was thinking that too. Proper pretty little car and designed by one of the greatest car designers of all time.

[@daniel635biturbo]

Harry, being nice about the climate controls. - "It's all sort of touch sensitive, different" In my brain different here is translated to Utter rubbish. Anyway, very well done review, as always !

[@ArthurZakaryan23]

Yeah Harry was way nicer over that screen not functioning then I would be. Almost £40K and it's this kind of rubbish is unacceptable. I'd take it back to dealer ASAP.

[@CubeCyclone]

Harry, as always, keeping it real and giving us a realistic view of what it's like to live with on a daily basis.... without the BS!

[@markdean3579]

Harry, great video thanks. 25k miles into eGolf ownership here. We treat the range given by the car as a useless guessometer, a much more useful method requires some mental maths. As the car bases all of its predictions on previous use, whereas you know how you are going to drive the car going forward. So use the 'petrol tank guage' to work out remaining kWh available... eg 1/3 tank is about 12kWh for the eGolf. Then times by a miles per kWh factor appropriate to the driving style you are going to drive (2 spirited | 3 normal | 4 eco) to give expected range. Adding all season tyres reduced range by around 5-10%, but it's a commuting weapon on them.

[@nigelbullock9039]

Harry leading the way on EV reviews and explaining what its really like to own and use this next generation. Mk1 Golf a classic for sure.

[@gazfish]

There's a few other channels focused on EVs but they are generally not petrol heads, so focus on the technology rather than driving experience.

[@nigelbullock9039]

@@gazfish it's a combination that needs focusing on and explaining.. A very new phenomenon called "charging anxiety" will be very real to many new EV users. It's a huge new industry that currently is way behind the curve. Other major countries are miles ahead and conversely larger nations lagging. Chinese lead the market in battery dvelopment but the whole product and infrastructure needs explaining and showing to the public now. The major reason for the slow sales is the basic question..... Will I get there and back..

[@exe889]

@@nigelbullock9039 "slow sales", really?

[@patrickjr11]

@@nigelbullock9039 2021 is a big year for EV infrastructure for sure in terms of general public awareness. According to Zap Map, there are currently 36k connectors across the UK with 650 added in the last month alone, with a number of high profile charge hubs opening recently. Charging Anxiety is not really a thing once you own an EV as you soon work out where and how you are going to charge for your personal circumstances. its just a new thing to learn. Remember, even with years and years and years of ICE ownership, 800k ran out of fuel in 2015, so not managing your journey properly is not exactly new. However, it is correct that winter driving hammers the range, as does running on the motorway, especially compared to city / suburban driving which is very kind to all EVs. EVs have been about in increasing numbers for around 10 years, Tesla, Nissan, Renault and BMW being the most high profile along with Kia and Hyundai. Most manufactures have what are known as compliance cars so they all have experience with selling EVs. VW has been selling EVs for a number of years now with the E-Up! and the E-Golf. So, the technology is not in any way new or untested. It is just, apart from Telsa, just under the radar until the government's recent announcement. The switch to a mainly EV car fleet will be much quicker than the deadline, as with all things, once your friends have them, they will encourage you to have one too.

[@neilgordon6450]

Another good honest vid by Mr Metcalfe...👏🏻👏🏻

[@arrangrant6037]

Now let’s see a review of that beautiful Silver GTI used to have a Silver Mk1 Golf 1100 L in the back in the 1980s great handling reliable car I still miss it👍

[@willywillywillywillywilly]

Harry, my VW sliced my finger open too. A 2016 Golf R. The trim in front of the shifter had just begun peeling (a known issue), and as I finally came to a stop, parking at the 2019 U.S. Grand Prix, I ripped open the whole freaking length of my middle finger. So, I MacGyver’d some treatment out of hand sanitizer, paper towel, and a disposable glove, and ”cleaned” it and ”protected” it enough to be able to watch Lewis win his sixth title in person. Good stuff.

[@woutererasmus8809]

I wanted to post the comment.....Harry is the best car reviewer on youtube, guess what? .......scroll down many such was already posted. Thank you for setting THE standard.

[@runrabbitrunracing]

I suggest a new standard test: HMBRT Harry Metcalfe Bonhams Run Test

[@skkh5108]

kzbin.info/www/bejne/j2TZoKCApLJjoLM

[@Jimo368]

Try unplugging it then plugging it back in.

[@Maurice_Moss]

Forcing an unexpected reboot? 🤓

[@raulio81]

Lol

[@bertramspielt]

Close all windows first!

[@autobahnproven]

@@bertramspielt Classic!👍

[@johnsmith2421]

Maybe keep the power button held down for a few seconds = soft reset.

[@ChocolateFrog]

The infotainment is unforgivable. Rotary dials for volume and temperature at a minimum.

[@rob_lightbody]

Yes!

[@buggs9950]

Definitely. The bulb that illuminates my heater controls has blown but because they're always in the same place and always do the same thing it doesn't matter. I can just reach out and make the heater do what I want without looking, simple. Same with the head unit.

[@anssileinonen3522]

The gear selector is something you could imagine seeing in a children's toy..

[@graemewilson1400]

@@buggs9950 YES,

[@markbutcher4100]

Fiddling with that touch screen while driving is just as bad as texting on your phone. 6 points please

[@stubones]

Exactly. What's the difference? It's still distracting you from the road. "driving without due care and attention" is what I think Plod calls it.

[@Rover200Power]

@timemachine_194 the future is voice control? My car from 2005 has voice control for most functions, not exactly the future is it?

[@jdavison8551]

I just don’t understand why the voice activation hasn’t been prioritised as a safety and convenience item. This is very poor. The distraction of fiddling with the screen, (and even worse, having to switch it on and off again to reset) is obvious. Why is it acceptable on a £30k new car in 2021? My 2007 X type was much better.

[@Rover200Power]

@@jdavison8551 my car with voice control is a Jaguar too. Maybe they were ahead of their time! Perhaps the problem is coming up with a system that works with all regional dialects and convincing customers to remember all the commands.

[@jdavison8551]

@@Rover200Power you might be right. I can’t believe any voice activation issues couldn’t be overcome if they effort into that, rather than things like “lane assist” or auto parking that most of us rarely use anyway. Personally, I think that would produce a much better outcome in terms of safety and overall driving experience.

[@Atombender]

In Germany, you get a €9,480 environmental bonus - €3,000 + 16% VAT from VW and €6,000 from the government - when buying an ID.3. The government bonus applies to any electric car with a net MSRP of less than €40,000. That's a massive incentive but also shows how desperate the government is to get as many e-cars on the road as possible.

[@flytwin1772]

And you get another bonus if you install a loading station for your car at home. Having said that you see how they are desperately trying to get these crazy cars into the market. Let´s see if the government will pay the a new battery pack if it´s down after eight years.

[@tonyosullivan2382]

What a lovely treat to wake up to on a cold miserable sunday morning. ACE 👌

[@UAPJedi]

VW tech screens seem to have a problem with freezing, the id4 review I watched yesterday had the same problem. It’s been rushed.

[@gweflj]

Desperately playing Tesla catch-up.

[@davedyer3654]

They used a Fisher Price screen 😀

[@Tautusian]

If its just that problem with freezing its no indication that its been rushed. Software is tricky and really loves to freeze

[@zammO74]

didn’t they delay the release of it coz they had massive issues with the tech side of it? I remember them crapping themselves as it wasn’t ready. Autogufuhl had the same issues on another brand new ID3. Pretty pathetic VW!

[@chrispenn715]

@@Tautusian that's why the chap in charge of software was demoted by VW in a very public way recently

[@keyo525]

I just hope that someone driving one of these cars pressing a million buttons and not looking at the road does not crash into one of my classics - awful design for driver functionality and safety.

[@JJ-eu9sq]

Not to mention how much it weighs (and electric cars across the board).

[@Jay-Kay-Em]

It’s my ultimate fear. My old Volvo 480 has a book value of peanuts, but a value to me personally that can’t be measured. This electric turd with some driver fighting that touch screen would write my car off (in the eyes of an assessor) with the most minor of bumps. He gets a brand new ID3 on his insurance. I get sweet FA and best of luck finding another!

[@davidcoveney]

The good news is that these modern cars also have all sorts of collision avoidance things going on. My Honda also beeps at me to tell me the traffic's pulled away at the lights, so my chances of not paying attention are slim. And it beeps quicker than the car behind beeps its horn!

[@davidcoveney]

@@Jay-Kay-Em get yourself proper classic insurance. Trust me on this, makes a huge difference. May cost a bit more, but well worth it.

[@Jay-Kay-Em]

@@davidcoveney Classic insurance is great and I have agreed valuations on all three of my classics. Sadly they don’t magic replacement cars out of thin air though. You try finding another Volvo 480 Manual Turbo. As I said, Mr new car driver doesn’t care, because he gets another new car. I also disagree with the sentiment that “it’s ok to drive bad because technology corrects it”. It’s all fallible. Sensors get dirty and damaged. I speak first hand from HGV collision avoidance systems not working or drivers turning them off “becuase they are a nuisance”. I got a DTC from a Mercedes the other day, actually telling me the distance sensor was dirty.

[@TheGreatestPlayerInTheWorld]

My vw golf mk4 from 2002 is still running 🏃‍♀️ strong 💪

[@ashley_neal]

Hi Harry. Little bit of info for you, the "B" gear is for travelling downhill for control. It works in the same way as shifting to a lower cog in an automatic with paddle shifters, or the old style gear selectors with the numbers below the drive position.

[@Mio-Vita]

What a fantastic way to start the day, good morning world.

[@isambardchisilwitt1232]

I'll have the mk1 please 😍

[@Jack-bf6hv]

+1 All I would take from this future is keyless go.

[@rvpsilva9213]

Being new and it freezes, I'm willing to imagine it must freeze everytime when the eletronics get old. Scary

[@freepadz6241]

Just a software bug. Nothing to do with electronics

[@bentullett6068]

@@freepadz6241 but what if the manufacturers start downloading these bugs into the cars to cause them to become obsolete quicker. It could become a real safety hazard if you buy one second hand.

[@3v3rhard]

@@bentullett6068 I don't think vw could afford another disaster. Apple tried it, didn't go well.

[@bentullett6068]

@@3v3rhard I think Tesla tried it as well that is why they had lots of cars batteries explode randomly after the owners had a update.

[@rvpsilva9213]

@@freepadz6241 the whole car is a software

[@johnsmith2421]

Another interesting and informative piece of automotive consumer advice. Thanks Harry. Much better than that bunch of clowns (Jay Emm/Shmee/Supercars of London, etc) talking cobblers.

[@nicholasshort7849]

Jay Emm is good imo. Down to earth and tells you what you want to know in a tight format. Also he has some older and reasonably priced cars that you don't often see reviewed on youtube.

[@johnsmith2421]

@Richard Harrold I liked his Lotus Evora pieces but went off him after his overly long and melodramatic squeal about his friend’s misfortune at the hands of Mclaren. He became so shrill it sounded like a pig being slaughtered.

[@GTFour]

I like Jayemm, can’t the rest though

[@Porsche996driver]

They need to turn the touch screen upside down so you have a little palm rest along the bottom and buttons on top. Love that you had that Silver GTI next to it! 🏁

[@ojoimages]

You’ll get 225 miles in the summer! WLTP should be done in the winter. At least what you have shown is the worst case scenario.

[@bcmstfilms]

It’s 260 WLTP, so cold weather effects the range by nearly 100 miles...

[@ojoimages]

@@bcmstfilms Yes my Kona (64 KWh battery) has a 280 WLTP. I get a good 240 in the summer (driving fast road/motorway) - probably 4.1 m/kwh and around 205 in the winter (3.5 ish m/kwh). Banging the heater on, winter's cold air density and a bit of battery 'cold gate' does it. Still its a perfect tool for 99% of driving. Even for 200 mile + trips to the Lakes with a bit of preplanning and using Instavolt or Polar.

[@siraff4461]

He was on dry roads and using as little heating as he could get away with while sticking to speed limits on the cars speedo (usually a little slower than the actual speed). He also had the car in his garage/port and on charge the night before so the battery was already warm. That's not worst case by a long way. He's also working out the range based on the promise of whats left which in some ev's can be quite a bit more than can actually be had - though I have no experience in the I.D.3 on that one I have experienced it in a lot of ev's. I never trust range remaining. Always go from mi/kWh used and total used vs percentage remaining and you know what you're likely to actually get.

[@adrianchetwynd1334]

225miles in the summer with the air con switched off

[@myahoff]

I bet you that 260 WLTP figure is coming from a test vehicle that is doing the majority of its driving in a Stop and Go enviroment. Doing all city driving would create lots more regen braking from making more stops (thus enhancing the range ability more) versus doing his run that was majority highway driving with a lot less braking, lot less regen action going on to extend the battery range.

[@richardcarter1000]

Great honest review as always Harry. Thank you. I couldn't be bothered with an ID3 or any EV. I'd buy that mk1 Golf GTi though. I had one back in the 80s. Great car.

[@Treeburnify]

As well as quoted range, the elephant in the room is still price. Electric cars are still not mass market, technology still has some way to go to mature. Good video as always.

[@TheDoosh79]

The future of cars is clearly not ownership, it's like everything else in the modern world, renting it. Hence the attractive £350 p/m lease deal.

[@nickporter4279]

This is at the expensive end for a small-ish EV. In fact it's at the expensive end for the ID3, being the launch model; later ones are supposed to be cheaper. But yes, right now it's not a good value deal. You can get a Fiat 500e for under £20k though, or a bit over for one with reasonable range. Still more expensive than a combustion version, but close enough that you can end up with a cheaper car after a few years' fuel, tax and maintenance.

[@Samuel-ym7ls]

Tesla

[@nickporter4279]

@@Gandalf721 : well alongside Fiat there's also the MG 5, Peugeot e208 and e2008, Vauxhall Corsa-e, Renault Zoe, Kia e-Niro and Hyundai Ioniq all offering >150 miles' real-world range for

[@PK-nn3sx]

Thank you, this an Carfection are the only ones worthy to watch, authentic and unbiased.

[@mikecrowe4674]

Just discovered Harry’s Farm channel. It’s worth a look regardless of whether you’re a farmer or not. Harry M should be on TV - he’s just an interesting character all round, class !

[@Maguffin604]

Love this channel. Merry Christmas Harry and many more awesome adventures ahead.

[@cp4512]

Remember when VW’s slogan was, “If only everything in life was reliable as a VW”? Dieselgate, that new touchscreen and the sharp dangerous plastic would suggest not! 🤣

[@andywright1634]

New slogan "if only everything was as cheap and nasty as a volkswagen". This is one horrid looking and built car. It's a Dyson on wheels.

[@lostchildren]

You must be joking? That was really the slogan? VW, at least here in the US and Canada, have been known for years of being the one of the most unreliable cars you can buy!!

[@graemewilson1400]

@@lostchildren same here in Oz the dealers are shocking and the cars are not what they used to be.

[@andrewtregoning]

looks a lot like a Citroen with those wheels and that sticker on the back

[@trenttrevorrow5648]

When you're looking at these on the used market, check for blood on those white steering wheels!

[@williamr3840]

Teeth?

[@SJBatie]

I’ve owned one for 6 weeks. I love the car, I don’t have a problem with the sliders or anything else. And this from someone who’s had Golfs for 11 years. Well done VW.

[@Andersljungberg]

However, there are car testers who complain about the cheap plastic interior. but maybe you golfers are used to it. Anyone who wants more premium from the company will probably buy an Audi 😀 or another Volkswagen

[@kccar256]

@@Andersljungberg Not at the price range of an ID 3.

[@aeolus75]

Classic, close all Windows and restart ;)

[@nicofonce]

hahaha lol

[@saulgoodman1965]

Quite an unusual time for Harry's video but anyway i love them!!

[@neilcollins5930]

You’re in the middle of nowhere low on charge and the screen freezes....

[@lifesucks5322]

@valleysofneptune not really though, my dad has been driving vw passats for the past 15 years and nothing ever went wrong, every modern car has problems doesn't matter what you buy

[@lifesucks5322]

@valleysofneptune maybe they are unreliable if you look at the numbers, i was just talking about personal experience, all the people that i know who drive vw have never had any major problems that however can just be luck of the draw. what makes them reliable in my eyes at least is that where i live lots of people drive them so fixing things if something breaks is usually fast and inexpensive

[@danny1191]

@valleysofneptune Volkswagen. Das Garbage

[@Lilbizkit]

"It gets upset when you take your hand off the steering wheel" 😄

[@richardhunt1384]

More aggression that you don't need. If it can bring or bong or tell you that the car isn't in Park and will roll away or just generally treat the owner like a Dim Witted Idiot then it will. Who owns who here, the car owner the driver or the other way round!!!!

[@AsinineComment]

Settle, petal. Right now the aggression is coming from you, @@richardhunt1384 . ☹️ A _little_ comes from the sharp rubber seal hook, but mostly you.

[@Lilbizkit]

@@AsinineComment that was a highly aggressive, devious reply, young man!

[@lavoltare6307]

The sooner they produce vehicles with H2 the better for us and the environment. Luv your work Harry.

[@martiniv8924]

Harry spilling his own blood 🩸 to bring us the best in car reviews and tests 🤓

[@RichiePhillipsmusic]

Price per kilo? Never heard that in a car review before. It's the sort of thing a farmer would say! :-)

[@myahoff]

Yeah thats when you know a car is shit when youre having to highlight its "price per kilo."

[@jamesdecross1035]

So, computers in cars crash, too. Oh joy!

[@annabel3some]

Great review as always. The car is deeply flawed though - range, cost and excessive technology. I want a means of transport not an iPhone on wheels.

[@lucasrem]

It's ugly! they should have done the Porsche 912 electric first.

[@johnkeepin7527]

And if it behaves like an iPhone it’ll be obsolete in a couple of years. Spot the depreciation.

[@thomaswood2390]

Check out the 2020 e-Up! if tech isnt your thing. Will actually beat its claimed range, too.

[@chrishyde1216]

You won't want a Tesla then.

[@jamieogorman9461]

Car sounds like a plastic bucket when the door closes.

[@SjoerdBeun]

It looks all plastic too. And that for 40k...

[@williamr3840]

That's because car is a plastic bucket.

[@Neojhun]

@@williamr3840 Nope ironically BEVs are not plastic for strength to weight ratio reasons. It's mostly Aluminum & Steel by mass. Floppy Plastic BEV is a good way to get DEAD, they are soo quick.

[@MachoMadness69420]

I’m going to call it now: That white steering wheel will look horrible in a couple of years.

[@Brownalebelly]

Looks horrible now

[@krimke881]

try 3 weeks

[@patrickbateman9887]

WHY DOES EVERYTHING ELECTRIC HAVE TO BE WHITE?!!! Go look at the interior of a 1970s Maserati and ask which one is more inviting: tan leather and wood or white, grey & touchscreens?

[@olivierl2172]

Breaking news: you can clean it.

[@MachoMadness69420]

@@olivierl2172 To a certain degree, yes.

[@MasterMalrubius]

“Have you tried turning your car off and back on?” This used to be the joke about a Microsoft car.

[@npet6842]

In the early days of computers in cars ( Disco 3 eg ) one would disconnect the battery for a few minutes if the system glitched , but that's somewhat impossible with this ..........

[@harsimranbansal5355]

@@npet6842 its not, everything internally is still powered by the 12V battery so you’d just have to disconnect that!

[@studiolezard]

Microsoft user's reply: Nah. I just got used to the darkness.

[@Neojhun]

Ironically Microsoft is in lots of cars. It's called Ford Sync upto Gen 2 & current BMWs. Even funnier including this car is most likely using BLACKBERRY aka QNX.

[@Wookey.]

@@Neojhun The VW platform is linux-based. Pretty sure there is no QNX in there.

[@kraenk12]

Concerning the range...it’s totally normal and expected to have less range in winter, that’s just how technology works. Other than that, great review and car.

[@box.10]

always enjoy Harry's down to earth honest videos. TVM

[@chumbucket1026]

Love the play and pause logos on the pedals!

[@Cyberdyne-kg8ku]

The only time touchscreens work is when driving on billiard table smooth roads. That that ain't never gonna happen.

[@C4Chavasse]

You know they have done a poor conversion to the right-hand drive market when they haven't swapped the wipers and you have the left wiper throwing the splash right in front of the driver... PSA group use to have this level of detail!

[@chrishyde1216]

33 bn and dieselgate. Saving money is probably higher up their priority list.

[@nigelcb1300]

Simple rotary controls for the heating and ventilation, it works!, why bloody change it ?

[@skkh5108]

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[@LarryKippings]

@@skkh5108 Very very annoying child. No thanks.

[@vinbar35]

This is the first video from Harry that I quit out of before the end. Why? At the 3rd mandatory 18 second advert for visa, I'd had enough.

[@MrStian78]

Blame it on KZbin.

[@michaelnaughton1393]

A refreshingly fair and even handed insight into the potential real world results of running a current day EV.

[@ivicakrajnovic9898]

"doors work" love it

[@AndrewTSq]

the touchcontrols really put me off from getting this car.

[@Neojhun]

Touch sensitive BUTTONs need to be banned. On soo many cars now.

[@jeremythomas6980]

thanks Harry very informative, if that's the bench mark car, petrol heads are safe enough for a while yet

[@edstratton]

Look at the online forums and Facebook groups and you’ll see that ID.3 owners are absolutely loving their cars, despite the software glitches.

[@kevinn1158]

Absolutely love your videos Harry. I'm 53. I say this because I'm intrigued by the electric car. That is, I'm not stuck in the past like a lot of people my age. Having said that, I love all of the old ICE sports car you review. The way I see it, the best of the automotive world has always been the visceral experience of driving in a machine isn't it? The vibration, the noise, the feel of the brakes, shifting a mechanical gear level.... It doesn't have to be the fastest, it just has to have character. The best example of this for me is the 2CV. On paper, it just sucks. But it certainly has character. It just has something that captured people's imagination. So I watch your video, with your beautiful mechanical watch staring me in the face and you are struggling to comprehend or articulate how this new technology will create that special feeling of travel, of being in a machine. For sure, the EV won't replace the old, analogue feel of a Morgan, MG, Sunbeam, Ferrari, Lotus.... but somehow this new technology will have to build a new character for themselves. It will happen somehow. It's just identifying what that character might be.

[@doderiolarkisso4038]

The freezing of the screen is why i keep driving old analog cars

[@forenamesurname1183]

Triumph Dolomite fir the win. (if it doesn't away rust first)

[@andywright1634]

The touch screen has gone on the fritz in my car a few times in the cold - was selecting various things randomly going through menus on it's own. Potentially bloody dangerous if you can't shut it off.

[@krimke881]

Preach!

[@bavariancarenthusiast2722]

Yes that happened in analog cars as well - I remember the first generation GPS in my 5 series - slow like a snail and kept and freezing - but it drove!

[@TheDoosh79]

How old is your car then if it doesn't have anything computerised in it?

[@leeds182]

My Audi diesel says I should get 650 miles to a tank. I get 500 ish. Manufacturers have always over egged range.

[@stubones]

My BMW diesel actually gets up to 800 miles of range from a tank. You should have bought a BMW lol

[@carstenweiland7896]

It's measured in a laboratory without generator, climate control and servo hydraulics attached.

[@krimke881]

Yes, they are mostly tested in a lab, under "ideal" conditions. So (...) who knows what that is.

[@K1lostream]

Jon a - Yeah exactly - when the difference could mean missed business appointments, childcare commitments or other things of that nature, rather than a 5-minute fill-up, they really ought to acknowledge that and fix it (or at least stop lying about it!).

[@pj9375]

My petrol 15 yr old BMW also hits the estimate mpg and distance figures every time. I wouldn't trust a VW as far as I could throw it....

[@TheKimNeeper]

It’s like Harry thinks it’s a death sin to plug it in for 10 minutes in a day to complete a journey... just do it and enjoy the energy efficiency :)

[@chrishyde1216]

After 2 hours I usually want a break for one reason or another. 180 miles is fine with me...so long as there are charging points which are available and work. Which leads to a question: would you choose this or a Tesla M3?

[@ricardogoncalves689]

I agree that the announced autonomy must be closer to reality. However, this problem also exists in the data announced for internal combustion cars. How often do people believe that they can travel a certain distance by seeing the fuel gage or the on-board computer, and without understanding why, it disappears more quickly than expected. To minimize the problem, there must be a kind of reliable “reserve” of the battery, in addition to the autonomy indicated on the instrument panel.

[@SteveBUK73]

I would like to see Harry do a proper test, driving normally, 'real' motorway speed, heating on proper settings, radio etc to see what range is then. Regards cost, the list price is high, but that monthly deal seems like good value compared to the competition. For a 2nd car run-around though I think I'd go for the Renault Zoe. Similar range and tech, but there are £190 a month leases available on them.

[@kevinbaird7277]

Out on the heated seats, radio on, wipers on non stop as it was a wet day, this car would have needed a charge to get home.

[@seanfyodorovich5230]

That stupid touch screen is exactly why I drive 20 plus year old cars. I don't want any of that crap.

[@robsonenduro3316]

exactly what I think, I have enough of computers at work.

[@Neojhun]

That's not just touchscreen. It'd idiotic touch sensitive Buttons with no screen. A properly designed big touchscreen is way better. cdn.pocket-lint.com/r/s/1200x/assets/images/149344-cars-review-hands-on-vw-id3-image2-nfshtzobqm.jpg

[@enigmaPL]

Right? This tiny hatchback weighs as much as my MK3 Supra, and the ID.3 is slower, cheaper quality, less comfortable, doesn't sound as good, costs more, and isn't remotely engaging to drive. Think I'll be keeping this Supra going another 30 years. I'll be proud to be THAT GUY that still has an engine burbling away while people go about in their electric appliances.

[@SonOfTamriel]

That MK1 GTI 🥰🤤🥰🤤🥰🤤

[@user-mg9he3qj3n]

Thanks Harry ,think the “electric car” is still a work in progress for me!🚒👍

[@drwatsonca6945]

It has taken quite a few years for fuel driven cars to get even to 40 miles per gallon and yet we expect electric which you can define as back in its infancy to get the same equivalency. I think the problem is not the range but the ability to charge it at the same time it takes to charge a regular car. If you can charge a battery in 5 minutes than we would not be complaining. Taking an hour or more is where the real problem lies. The battery distance will increase but what I would like to see if charging getting faster.

[@MichaelOZimmermannJCDECS]

Harry: "This is the one to beat"... come on! 🤨 A joke, YES?

[@clarencemacallan5224]

Analogue man in a digital world, like myself. However, I wish I was as honorable as your good self.

[@FenderUsa]

hope you'll do a vid on that golf too!

[@franzc1656]

Really useful review for anyone considering switching to an EV.

[@nickieredshaw7835]

Great video thanks great review. Take care and safe travels and happy holidays

[@earthstick]

Maybe the WLTP test result should include a maximum and minimum figure or figures at different temperatures.

[@keefr22]

38 grand and no Ctrl-Alt-delete.....??!! Wish I had £38K to spend on a car, certainly wouldn't be on one of those things though.

[@USUG0]

the changing range estimate is the equivalent of the wobbly fuel gauge needle in the old days!

[@rootsmanuva82]

I’ll admit I love the white steering wheel with the minimalist VW logo. It reminds me of the original VW Bus yet looks very contemporary considering white steering wheels are unheard of today.

[@stevehertfordshire1879]

Another good honest review from Harry. I do love this channel.