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Harstem

Harstem

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@jacobsvensson8193
@jacobsvensson8193 2 жыл бұрын
this protoss is obviously doing a "beating diamonds with stupid stuff" challenge
@josefanon8504
@josefanon8504 2 жыл бұрын
yep lmao
@anjhindul
@anjhindul 2 жыл бұрын
That was the only thing I could think of... "beating diamonds without building units until 10 minutes" or something lolol
@TheJommy34
@TheJommy34 2 жыл бұрын
People with J profile picture gang.
@edesbalazs
@edesbalazs 2 жыл бұрын
He played on pacifist the first half
@mitoroskokoros589
@mitoroskokoros589 2 жыл бұрын
Nah this was just his daily macro and oracle micro training
@Xanthanarium
@Xanthanarium 2 жыл бұрын
This was a pretty strange episode of Beating Grandmasters with Stupid Stuff, but I'm on board with whatever you say, Amiral!
@basilman121
@basilman121 2 жыл бұрын
Lol!
@mikehunt3426
@mikehunt3426 2 жыл бұрын
Most pros give the tip to "keep it simple". This man pushed it to the extreme.
@OpiatesAndTits
@OpiatesAndTits 2 жыл бұрын
No one would suggest making mass oracles as the follow up imo. The fact that “make spire” wasn’t his first reaction to seeing the great walk of stargates kinda boggles the mind.
@Ben-gd1so
@Ben-gd1so 2 жыл бұрын
I think Harstem's brain has finally been broken by IODIS submissions. Shame on the protoss player for bm, but props to the zerg player for the gg at the end.
@antoniolansang1190
@antoniolansang1190 2 жыл бұрын
This is the angriest I've seen him get. I think seeing noob replays is taking its toll.
@EAWhite1984
@EAWhite1984 2 жыл бұрын
His brain broke so bad he closed the video with "beating grandmasters with stupid stuff"
@Diogenes2077
@Diogenes2077 2 жыл бұрын
I just hope he didn't have a medical examination the following day.
@murk4545
@murk4545 2 жыл бұрын
I’m surprised he wasn’t more angry, the plays are absolutely astonishing. It’s not even like a practice issue, the zerg was making active decisions and using his APM to hard sandbag the game. I think hard AI would have played better tbh
@Hosenbivad
@Hosenbivad 2 жыл бұрын
I would laugh at this if i hadnt lost to this exact "strategy" aswell. Now i just feel more humiliated, triggering those suppressed memories. I cant believe I lost to this shit.
@tomdabomb999
@tomdabomb999 2 жыл бұрын
It's highly likely the protoss was smurfing, considering the stupidity of the build and the BM. Don't ever feel bad about losing to someone so pathetic that they spend their free time beating up people weaker than them because they're too afraid of losing.
@CZProtton
@CZProtton 2 жыл бұрын
We all lost to shit like this from time to time. The replay clearly shows that just having good fundamentals is enough to beat the crap out of this stupid ass strategy, like scouting and droning up. He should have absolutely ripped his face off just by doing ling runbys and droning up at the same time, which is duable even for plat, much more so in diamond.
@LoknKey
@LoknKey 2 жыл бұрын
"Thanks for joining me for Beating Grandmasters with stupid stuff" -End credits This is what we are going to see next BGWSS episode
@6Martok
@6Martok 2 жыл бұрын
Did he seriously end the video by saying "Thats going to be it for this Episode of beating grandmasters with stupid stuff" Like.... Poor Harstem throughout the vid has been misspeaking. Must need his coffee!
@Dutcht3am
@Dutcht3am 2 жыл бұрын
Early stages of dementia...
@josefanon8504
@josefanon8504 2 жыл бұрын
well exactitude played like it was beating diamonds with stupid stuff xD
@ToTheNines87368
@ToTheNines87368 2 жыл бұрын
I think you misread his sarcasm
@Wrecker326
@Wrecker326 2 жыл бұрын
This looked like a botched Protoss campaign mission against Zerg that attacks randomly
@Avermra
@Avermra 2 жыл бұрын
having a hard time believing this game isn't staged, or that the toss isn't just trolling.
@danielgloyd4529
@danielgloyd4529 2 жыл бұрын
My thought when seeing this was protoss was just trying to meme. I have done stupid crap like this in lower leagues as zerg. Build nothing but drones spines and spores and mass expand with defenses everywhere. Players will more often than not focus to hard on killing one base while I take like 3 more. It's honestly a stupid gameplan and relies on the multitasking and macro of the opponent to be bad for it to work, but I assure you it does.
@BanAaron
@BanAaron 2 жыл бұрын
@@danielgloyd4529 i am sure it works in lower leagues. But Diamond players should be good ebough to build more than 30 drones
@danielgloyd4529
@danielgloyd4529 2 жыл бұрын
@@BanAaron Not saying you are wrong, only want to add this as one last thing. You would be surprised how often when someone encounters something new like a weird rush or massing a non meta unit or something they perceive as stupid, then their whole gamelan is suddenly forgotten and they just start trying to freestyle a build in their overconfidence or confusion. The usually correct answer would be stay calm and follow your build order/macro up. In the heat of the moment though people will make mistakes.
@MultiChrisjb
@MultiChrisjb 2 жыл бұрын
oh the toss is trolling, no doubt. But props for the zerg player for sending it in, i'd be too embarrassed
@fluffyfang4213
@fluffyfang4213 2 жыл бұрын
@@MultiChrisjb I think some people lack the self-awareness to be embarrassed, but in this case, I really think it was a lack of checking the replay before sending it in.
@officialbeans
@officialbeans 2 жыл бұрын
"i blind countered the cannon rush" - what cannon rush?? lol am i missing something?
@Santisima_Trinidad
@Santisima_Trinidad 2 жыл бұрын
I think he assumed the forge was going to be a cannon rush and it didn't come out because the protos got scared by the 6 zerglings or whatever.
@TheGahta
@TheGahta 2 жыл бұрын
Yeah that this is an iodis and people completely misinterpreting what they see is the whole schtick 😂
@addaine4019
@addaine4019 2 жыл бұрын
I especially like how he is making fun of you for getting 1440 instead of 1450 ressources while he counts 9 drones losses (450 ressources) against 1 oracle (300 ressources) a -150 ressources for the protoss (at 14:26).
@no3ironman11100
@no3ironman11100 2 жыл бұрын
until the drones are re-made, how much ressources not being collected is that?
@Heroselohim
@Heroselohim 2 жыл бұрын
The time you marked at 14:26 doesn't show what you mention. And 2nd... do you understand the idea of killing drones to halt production? So the zerg lost far more than 450.
@addaine4019
@addaine4019 2 жыл бұрын
@@Heroselohim I checked to be sure but unless I'm missing something, m'y timestamp shows what I wanted to show. And yes, I understand this concept, I just did not take it into accounts since nobody did and that was not the point (and if you think this far, you may also take into accounts Lost mining Time and the cost of thé units thé protoss has to produce to replace thé oracle but that doesn't really mean anything). I was just saying that while he made fun of Harstem for a 10 ressource he got a sign wrong, making it a 300 ressource difference, which was ironic
@codyheiner3636
@codyheiner3636 2 жыл бұрын
I would be very skeptical of the *fake reverse IODIS* submissions in this type of scenario. Hopefully you guys are doing your due diligence to verify all the submissions before they make it onto the show.
@TheGahta
@TheGahta 2 жыл бұрын
Whats a fake reverse iodis?
@codyheiner3636
@codyheiner3636 2 жыл бұрын
@@TheGahta When the winning player submits the game, pretending to be the losing player.
@TheGahta
@TheGahta 2 жыл бұрын
@@codyheiner3636 ah ok, never care much about who wins in these
@tomdabomb999
@tomdabomb999 2 жыл бұрын
@@TheGahtait's more about the fact that you beat a player, and then submit a video where Harstem roasts them, thinking they submitted it. It's ok to be roasted if you asked for it (by submitting it), otherwise it's the height of BM
@TheGahta
@TheGahta 2 жыл бұрын
@@tomdabomb999 i stil dint get it, the zerg submitted and it did look like he lost at the end You sure youre not just overthinking stuff?
@murk4545
@murk4545 2 жыл бұрын
This is a silver game it has to be. I’ve never seen a zerg figure out exactly what to do wrong at every turn. It’s insane. Harstem is being very merciful with his criticism here lol. There are several points in this game where if he a clicked and disconnected from the game, the AI would have performed better than him
@Gajoobles
@Gajoobles Жыл бұрын
So I suspect that he was really anxious and the adrenaline was not being beneficial. Sometimes anxiety just makes me shake and god damn does my brain stop working, always takes me a couple of games till it wears off.
@benjaminjones8782
@benjaminjones8782 2 жыл бұрын
Loozerg is actually a really good name I think
@flamerollerx01
@flamerollerx01 2 жыл бұрын
I strongly recommend Loozerg watch some sc2 tutorials. Not the official blizzard ones, but the higher quality pro player made tutorials. I think you have one Harstem. Me, I watched PiG's video and can now easily beat harder ai 1v1. I tried very hard and got stomped, because I am still making mistakes like failing to inject, expand, get more gas, fully saturate my first two bases (ironically I more often fully saturate my second base while leaving one gas unused in my main lol) and neglecting to continue getting upgrades. Mind you I don't get punished vs the harder ai for these mistakes, but the very hard ai certainly does. My goal isn't to rank on the ladder though, it's to kick my friends' asses lol and boy am I going to, very soon (this week).
@jeffreywarf
@jeffreywarf 2 жыл бұрын
I'd like to see it if you record it
@imzesok
@imzesok 2 жыл бұрын
I feel like this belongs more on an episode of "bronze league heros" than "IIODIS". nothing at all about this game indicates silver, much less diamond on any server. as a zerg, if you have only 39 workers by 6-7 minutes: you are ALL-IN whether or not you realize it. You should sneak this replay into the next season of ranked roulette, because once it gets all clipped up and the names anonymized, I don't think anyone on the show could guess the league correctly. good on loozerg though for gging despite the BM though.
@jfabiovieira
@jfabiovieira 2 жыл бұрын
Harstem really took that agressive gg to the heart and gave a great and true review/feedback without condescending or making funny jokes about the zerg player because of the good manners (GM) I support GM! (You don't need be in Grand Master to be GM!)
@imperialmarchinhumanbowels5726
@imperialmarchinhumanbowels5726 2 жыл бұрын
Boring. I always offensively gg after the first minor victory. I am a student of the great Wasif Khan and I realize well the importance of the psychological edge. Always say things to make one's opponent angry and tilted.
@ambidextrouslamia9635
@ambidextrouslamia9635 2 жыл бұрын
The analogy between taking useless risks and putting glass in your soup killed me 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
@cardboxman
@cardboxman 2 жыл бұрын
Offensive gg is truly so discusting, more than any mass Carrier or bo7 PvP
@8Nifon8
@8Nifon8 2 жыл бұрын
Sorry, can't help but being reminded of this video after reading "discusting": kzbin.info/www/bejne/Zoe1hZqAgq6Sh9k
@Ty-bz7zx
@Ty-bz7zx 2 жыл бұрын
Sounds like a Harstem no units for 5 minutes challenge =) Can't wait for the vid !
@LiliumAtratum
@LiliumAtratum 2 жыл бұрын
Nah... the challenge should be: you must always have a Nexus in production (except for the first minute or so).
@Ty-bz7zx
@Ty-bz7zx 2 жыл бұрын
@@LiliumAtratum why not both at the same time? =)
@deathknightrevan
@deathknightrevan 2 жыл бұрын
I dont understand how this zerg is ranked higher than me.
@xkdax8470
@xkdax8470 2 жыл бұрын
Hello there, dear everyone, im the one who did send this replay. I see a lot of comments here about my playstyle, so I want to explain what was going on in my mind: 1. First of all, im not a Serral, and im not able to destroy 200 limit of carrier+archon/storm (i can have any upgrades and any army composition and i will lose to A-click/A-click+storm) 2. If i let toss to expand like a madman left and right - he will eventually get 200 limit of carrier+archon/storm for sure (and then see point one) 3. If i build drones then im not able to build lings that early (and then see point two) (actually you dont rly need lot of drones to make ling army) Thats why this game looks like this, i still feel like i went for best strategy to counter opponent strategy, surely did mess up some micro, but why nobody cares about toss micro (not found)? Harstem unfortunately missed a couple of my big attacks on opponent bases, which you can see on the mini map (so in my view i was actually ahead, cause wasnt aware of bottom base, and did see how i did kill pretty much every probe, also protoss didnt even knew about my 4th base, and i had some of drones there, so thats a reason why i didnt leave a game when had like 9 drones (some of you said that i did bm toss cause of no leaving) Roach warren obviously wasnt brilliant decision, but i felt like lings wasnt trade good enough against buildings, and i had bunch of vespen, so i thought some ravagers would be usefull to break defence with biles. I did transfer drones from main to natural when oracles come cause if you watch closely, those oracles did kill queen+spore in 3rd base in the blink of an eye right before, so 1 spore isnt enough to stop them, but at natural base i had queen and 2 additional spores in production I surely did mess up some stuff in this game, but i feel like if i will face this guy with same strat again, i will lose again, cause even after Harstem review i dont rly understand what should i do. Like i can trade banelings better, i can build spore in-time, but protoss also able to press atleast battery overcharge once or split probes against banelings at least once, or micro his oracles better and then im dead anyways. Anyhow it was a hilarious game to watch (but not to play). Big appreciation to Harstem for reviewing it, peace
@genericnameinc
@genericnameinc 2 жыл бұрын
As to what to improve on: take 2 lings and shift click every base location to scout? If you had done that, you would have found and could have taken out all of his super undefended bases with ease. Oh, ans spend the larva. You could have produced workers without sacrificing lings...you had unused larva all the time ;)
@HiddenStr3ngth
@HiddenStr3ngth 2 жыл бұрын
Not gonna improve well with that attitude mate
@joaopadua7134
@joaopadua7134 2 жыл бұрын
Nerd
@joaopadua7134
@joaopadua7134 2 жыл бұрын
@@HiddenStr3ngth nerd
@xkdax8470
@xkdax8470 2 жыл бұрын
​@@genericnameinc When toss did build hidden base i was going into his base with 6 start lings, so i didnt had any free lings at that point, and even when i did shift click every base it dont show me every base cause ling comes into closest cannon and dies. Anyhow, he did build it at 3:10 and i did scout it at 7:10 and i did destroy it at 10 minute mark, so why do you think its scout problem, it surely not, toss base is just op, it defends wave after wave cause toss player did outplay me and did build 2 cannons pog. Bottom base is kind of joke cuz i had so much lings going through this base and they didnt scout it And now for larva, both times when Harstem said about larva i did spend all my resources right after it, even Serral can have 13 larva sometimes in a game, its fine. And i didnt build workers not cause of larva issue, but minerals, i did aggressive push at low worker count, like imagine to do 12 pool and then build 2 lings and go for drones, thats what you advicing. If i didnt build any of those lings i wont be able to stop this 10:30 o'clock base even at 10 minute mark. Thats ridic to me that lot of ppl actually think its not op to counter early aggression like ling bane flood with +1 attack by placing more nexuses(which i can see, you wont find any moment when i dont attack my opponent buildings for some time, i know about them, but i cant destroy them/or it takes too much time), most of you are probably protoss
@nhattuyenvodieu3103
@nhattuyenvodieu3103 2 жыл бұрын
guys, i dont know. this toss seems to be some kind of smurf type situation. feels pretty bad to me to outplay your opponent so hard and then bming the opponent. takes a special kind of human being to do this crap. i plead for misstrial.
@deathlogic1
@deathlogic1 2 жыл бұрын
This was the dumbest game I've ever seen........
@velocirapper
@velocirapper 2 жыл бұрын
Hamster the graphics on this episode are great, always raising the bar. Also how on earth are these guys in Diamond??
@alistairbolden6340
@alistairbolden6340 2 жыл бұрын
The Zerg player is because not enough Protoss at lower elo ever build a forge so ling runbys do far more damage than they should, Its very common to see Zerg players with less than a week experiance in masters. Every pro agrees that getting Zerg into GM is much faster than the other two races. As for the Protoss he was doing the build 120 drones before you build any units challenge.
@lelouchvibritannia7809
@lelouchvibritannia7809 2 жыл бұрын
The protoss was probably a smurf, the zerg, idk. He must've gone off his game plan and panicked
@henningbreede6428
@henningbreede6428 2 жыл бұрын
@@alistairbolden6340 name a single pro.
@alistairbolden6340
@alistairbolden6340 2 жыл бұрын
@@henningbreede6428 You mean Dark or Scarlet? both have been calling Zerg OP for years and well when you look at the results list of highest payed SC2 players or the blizzcon/IEM winners its impossible to argue.
@hivetech4903
@hivetech4903 2 жыл бұрын
3950MMR is Diamond 2 on EU... Harstem was off. Its a long way from top Diamond considering the massive skill difference over the whole league.
@Schoolfunds1
@Schoolfunds1 2 жыл бұрын
Lmao, I felt the same.. “How is this Diamond”
@robology1388
@robology1388 2 жыл бұрын
I love the banter about the bad play and decisions. I love you sticking up for the guy at the end even more. Stay you Harstem
@yaboykirby7789
@yaboykirby7789 2 жыл бұрын
Is it just me or was this Zerg not that bad? Honestly I feel this is the closest thing "OP" thing I've seen on Is it Imba or do I suck. The guy's baseline mechanics were NOT GOOD, like he spent way too much time doing things with his units compared to just building units and him trying to get his banelings to hit the natural was pretty cringe but strategically he was ok. I've watched High Diamond Zergs that don't know what the word scouting means and this guy scouted pretty well, he only really missed the one base near the end and there's no reason that Protoss should have a base there undefended so I can forgive that. the Zergling movement where he was getting into his opponent's base and he could have saved another Zergling was pretty unintuitive imho like I dunno in the back of my head I'm thinking "what if he blocks his own ramp?" even though I know that''s dumb. Also it's easier running that way and it's just one Zergling. He made a bunch of small and dumb micro mistakes but I feel like he didn't lose much by making those mistakes? He oversplit his army a bit but his opponent is building bases everywhere isn't that the obvious thing to do? With not building a Spore my view was that it looked like he wasn't expecting Oracles but instead something else that would take longer to build (idk what) judging by him building the spore almost instantly as the Oracles came in (showing he was at least thinking about it) I seriously don't know what he was doing with the Roach Warren though, that was weird as fuck (apparently he built them so he could kill buildings more efficiently? He clearly thought he was much further ahead). Some of the times you criticized him for not just hitting the pylon there was two pylons and two cannons sure he shouldn't have gone Cannon>Pylon>Cannon>Pylon but the zerg seemed to struggle just getting the right units in front The time he had 8 workers like yeah of course he just threw his units in he has 8 workers lmao Telling the Zerg he lost because he never went above 40 workers is kinda strange to me? Like shouldn't you be able to beat this Protoss build with >40 workers easily? And yeah you might say "wow the Zerg player was so bad" because in a lot of ways he was but Starcraft 2 isn't Broodwar, you can have pretty poor mechanics and get far as proven by the fact that he's High Diamond EU My first thought was it feels like the Protoss build kind of hard counters mechanically poor Zerg players but after thinking a bit longer I think Zerg lost this because he wasn't fully prepared for the stargates? He was even with Protoss on workers at that point and had a much scarier army so I think he just has to be a little less cocky and take the stargates seriously and he wins fairly comfortably. PS I don't really play SC2 so this is me trying to understand rather than me trying to inform, I know I'm a dumbass.
@NestedQuantifier
@NestedQuantifier 2 жыл бұрын
No, the zerg was terrible. You do need good mechanics. The zerg is not good because he is in high diamond. He is in high diamond despite being so terrible, which would be an argument for zerg being OP, not the other way around. I don't know why you think he should be able to win with 40 drones and zergling/bane despite not having been under any pressure for the first 10 minutes. A zerg can have 80 drones and be maxed out by 7 mins. Starcraft 2 is not a strategy game. It's a colony building simulator. Only when you can build 80 drones, 5 bases by 8 mins, do you ever get to play a strategy game. But speaking of strategy, you have some fundamental misunderstandings about starcraft. Most diamond players scout, but early drone scout is neither needed nor good by default. Focus on not tripping. For scouting to actually work, you need to react to what your opponent is doing. The correct choice against a forge expand is to expand, drone up, then kill. That's what zergs do, and that is why nobody goes forge fast expand. The 6 zerglings going in was a terrible mistake in the first place. You lose all your zerglings and map control, have sacrifice more drones, and can't scout and deny bases. More importantly, he sat on 800 minerals the whole time microing like he is serral. That's a whole minute of resources, by the 2 minute and 30 second mark! He deserved to lose at that point. When he finally scouted the expansions which he should have denied with his zerglings, he should have droned up, build roaches, then killed them. Instead, he killed more drones by building zerglings and banelings instead and tried to baneling bust. Zerglings cost larvae, and he didn't have very many because he didn't build 2 extra bases or inject very well because he was too busy microing 3 zerglings against probes. His micro mistakes weren't small. They were beyond idiotic. After smashing through the main base, he morphed his zerglings into banelings to kill probes. He did this multiple times. His losses weren't small, nor were they affordable since he had 0 economy. Every 2 zergling is a drone. Early banelings are just stupid, are expensive as hell, and kills your economy because you need to mine gas. Oversplitting his army is by definition bad. After busting spending an ungodly amount of economy to bust the main, he needed to send in his whole army to try to destroy the tech and 2 bases, and not allow the protoss to rebuild the wall. The protoss had nothing in the base, but he didn't know that. He criticized him when there were 1 pylon and 2 cannons and 1 shield battery. But let's test you. Is it better for the banelings to go into the defense, and allow the zerglings to kill the probes, or to send your banelings into the probes? With not building the spore, why is your view to defend him despite not having any idea what he is doing? If he was not expecting oracles... first of all, WHY NOT? Is his plan just to die if the protoss chose one out of three units he could build? And do you really think this zerg has the timing down pat to know exactly when a void ray would come? What was a higher priority at that point? Anything else, whatever is coming out of those 4 stargates? Yes, he started those spores the moment he saw the oracles coming to his base. I don't understand how you can conclude that meant he was "thinking about it". He clearly wasn't, and only realized it after seeing the oracles. He saw 4 stargates building and he just... forgot about them. Attention deficit zerg at the finest. He should have had 6 queens at that point, but he didn't. He should have built spores immediately. Roach warren should have came 6 mins earlier. He threw his banelings to get hit by the cannons the most amount of times possible, then into a nexus. He was supposed to go from the other side, and not through his cannons to slightly damage a nexus. Or even go elsewhere to attack a less defended base. He had 8 workers because he only ever built like 30. So if you've identified that that is bad, why do you think that only building 30 is acceptable? The zerg never had the protoss' economy, and is almost never anywhere close, despite killing 100 probes, so NOT even. The protoss had a scary army, while the zerg had a few zerglings and banelings. The protoss' build hard counters nothing other than attention deficit zergs who only got into platinum because they 16 pool and lower level protoss/terrans don't build walls. The zerg lost because he belongs in gold/silver league, and is up against an actual diamond player because good mechanics trumps bad ones. The zerg was never ahead, and could never have won because he was a silver/gold player. With the way you're talking, I'd almost think you were that zerg player trying to justify himself with another name.
@mikehunt3426
@mikehunt3426 2 жыл бұрын
There's no way this is diamond. I dont believe it.
@alpha-cf2oi
@alpha-cf2oi 2 жыл бұрын
lol same here, maybe he just lied about mmr?
@hamster_designs
@hamster_designs 2 жыл бұрын
@@alpha-cf2oi i checked some sites and they were only 100 mmr off.
@alpha-cf2oi
@alpha-cf2oi 2 жыл бұрын
@@hamster_designs lol dayum, ok
@cobble3231
@cobble3231 2 жыл бұрын
?? Of course this is diamond, it's very clear. The probe production is very consistent and good from the protoss, the Zerg is good enough at everything to not be lower than diamond but bad enough to not be anything higher, like if you think this isn't diamond idk
@mikehunt3426
@mikehunt3426 2 жыл бұрын
@@cobble3231 isnt diamond supposed to grasp very basic things like very basic micro and poorly executed build orders? I stopped playing a long time ago, used to be high masters but im 99% sure i could play much better than this after years of not playing. Diamond used to be better than this back in my days.
@kacid3108
@kacid3108 2 жыл бұрын
LoL you know Harstem is mad when he discribes the situation as "UNREASONABLE" XDDD
@kurzackd
@kurzackd 2 жыл бұрын
Harstem, why even bother with replays who were clearly sent with the intention to troll you?
@Mike-dm5ut
@Mike-dm5ut 2 жыл бұрын
I’m usually not for bad manners but the game was over and he didn’t leave timely… 40 probes to 9 drones. The tos scouted around with oracles - at that point Zerg just wasting time…
@Mike-dm5ut
@Mike-dm5ut 2 жыл бұрын
38-5 workers at the point of gg…
@Lenichi
@Lenichi 2 жыл бұрын
Might as well just stick to making one unit. Both for army and economy
2 жыл бұрын
I hate that protoss player, I feel I could have lost to this stupid shit lmao.
@elveory
@elveory 2 жыл бұрын
Your analytical approach to the game makes me enjoy every second I watch it, truly your casts are the best :)
@sycariummoonshine7134
@sycariummoonshine7134 2 жыл бұрын
I wonder how well he'd have done if, well, he would've, you know, started aggressively expanding to random locations/even his opponents bases the moment he begun winning... You know. It seems to work well for the opponent... :D I mean, ofc normally you'd expand anyway... but if you aint gonna scout them trough the entire game, likely your opponent of similar mmr isn't going to scout you in return, right?
@nef36
@nef36 2 жыл бұрын
I mean, zerg is way better at aggressively expanding than protoss, so he would've covered the map first!
@hivetech4903
@hivetech4903 2 жыл бұрын
He scouted at 2 mins with the Ovi... and the ling run-in soon after. That should've told him exactly where he was in the game and that he had time to play normal & drone up. The problem is even before that he was floating huge money, so yeah maybe not safe lol. Games without builds are so random.
@yaboykirby7789
@yaboykirby7789 2 жыл бұрын
@@hivetech4903 His mechanics are terrible for his level, he didn't get to his level with his mechanics. He simply doesn't "play normal and drone up" he basically said as much in his comment. The guy can't handle a supply of 50 without floating massively, what point is there telling him to build more drones?
@hivetech4903
@hivetech4903 2 жыл бұрын
@@yaboykirby7789 No he didn't say that - he said he macroed lol. The point is spending money & building drones is the only way to get any better at the game... obviously? 😂
@oscarjosefsson9300
@oscarjosefsson9300 8 күн бұрын
This game was completely insane from both players. Sometime you hear people talk about "greedy" builds but this is far beyond that! Building 7 bases before you build any military units. Unbelievable!
@Dropbare
@Dropbare 2 жыл бұрын
I remember back when SC2 was new, I was in Diamond (at the time highest league) and now to see that THIS is diamond...yikes.
@lelouchvibritannia7809
@lelouchvibritannia7809 2 жыл бұрын
When I get games like this, I think my opponent is smurfing and then stop playing Starcraft for a few days because I'm too angry
@Kilesfactor
@Kilesfactor 2 жыл бұрын
Bruh, zergling need a buff. Can’t even beat buildings. Actually just make drones. Smh my head
@shlomosuke
@shlomosuke 2 жыл бұрын
Dude couldnt kill a man playing a no gaz/no unit challenge for 7 minutes, and then complains about protoss beeing OP. Man do I love IODIS
@soleilforgeron590
@soleilforgeron590 2 жыл бұрын
actually Choudo is the president of Canada, Harstem
@ustanoksamuraii112
@ustanoksamuraii112 4 ай бұрын
Harstem mentioning Day9 Daily brought back soooo many memories. If this was a Daily the Toss was definitely doing the expand every 4 minutes challenge
@artemirrlazaris7406
@artemirrlazaris7406 2 жыл бұрын
The zerg player is terrible... Weakness of Protoss is pylons... and he oculd of wiped the entire base... if hte pylon was removed... Then did surgical pylon removal.. is pretty cheap.. I think its like 8 bannelings... and only two would be killed.... So.... mixed in with zerg units.. could of wipe3d out omost of hte bases... Zerg should be expanding more rapidly.. there is relaly no map control.. Those initial zerglins, yeah incorrect path, but he oculdo f covered he opponenents expansion, as he already had an overlord in the area.
@Sara_Feingold
@Sara_Feingold 2 жыл бұрын
"I'm not even sure if you suck" *1 minute later* "And that's why you suck." XD
@Darkruk
@Darkruk 2 жыл бұрын
14:25 editor made a mistake trade info should've said "- 150 resources for the zerg"
@НикитаЕремеев-ц6ц
@НикитаЕремеев-ц6ц 8 ай бұрын
I bet zerg didn't actually scouted stargates. He just run his zerlings into cannons while looking at somesing else, and didn't knew, what this buildings was. That's why his spores are so late.
@nilsdemello907
@nilsdemello907 2 жыл бұрын
The Zerg player though he only has 2 bases left and went for the kill... which obvious was a huge mistake since he had the other hidden bases. That´s why you scout :P And the whole time the Protoss has more workers than the Zerg, never a good sign, how can a Zerg player have so few larva, when his queen have full energy, does he know the inject hotkey ?
@davidkampmann9783
@davidkampmann9783 2 жыл бұрын
The face that harstem makes at 3.59 Killed me 🤣🤣🤣
@jaltaro1676
@jaltaro1676 2 жыл бұрын
This is so beautiful. I love these IODIS the most
@anima94
@anima94 2 жыл бұрын
I gotta say that Protoss opener had me laughing so hard, I gotta try this on ladder
@poisonrain87
@poisonrain87 2 жыл бұрын
Immediately could hear Ace Ventura saying "le who, zeh erg"
@flamerollerx01
@flamerollerx01 2 жыл бұрын
Holy crap, these players are both playing absolutely horribly. I don't even need to finish the video to know the result. Loozerg sucks.
@max_munzel
@max_munzel 2 жыл бұрын
"you're basically the creeps in tower defense" is like the best punchline i heared in a while
@chloesmith4065
@chloesmith4065 11 ай бұрын
There was a PvT where this came up also, tank was walled in and the stalkers took the longest route possible to get hit by the tank instead of just walking next to the factory and sniping it in two volleys
@timbaleno9269
@timbaleno9269 2 жыл бұрын
If someone showed this toss the overcharge button, he could make GM.
@bobhockey2509
@bobhockey2509 2 жыл бұрын
It only took Harstem 19 and a half minutes to find something more interesting than this replay.
@ВладиславОстровский-й6ж
@ВладиславОстровский-й6ж 2 жыл бұрын
Its impossible nn 3900 mmr Those player's are gold
@asdaq6319
@asdaq6319 2 жыл бұрын
When the game is already happening, please make your camera picture smaller. It was just so darn annoying because it felt like it took half the screen.
@JosephParker_Nottheboxer
@JosephParker_Nottheboxer 2 жыл бұрын
Are we allowed to troll Harstem by submitting a video where we loose against the Very Easy AI by failing to build anything that makes any sense?
@lmao_nope
@lmao_nope 4 ай бұрын
I love 13:00 on this video. The zerg just got done killing 85 probes... and he is still behind in worker count.
@BIGESTblade
@BIGESTblade 2 жыл бұрын
Holy shit, how is this guy diamond. Builds banelings for a bust and loses his whole army to fucking photons anyway.
@arksurge7084
@arksurge7084 2 жыл бұрын
lol why are u even making these videos, all u do is complain about the players that email you, and harass them like you're taking their complaints personally.
@TheJoe5212
@TheJoe5212 2 жыл бұрын
I mean not sure why everyone takes bm so seriously in online gaming, trash talking is common is every sport and is part of the competition mental fight, i mean I am not in favour of it and yes I hoped we could have sportsmanship in every game but its part of the game I am not going to rage or feel offended if I someone calls my airball or banters
@leznets91
@leznets91 2 жыл бұрын
If some of these diamond players were in my silver league I'd have more MR I feel
@max_munzel
@max_munzel 2 жыл бұрын
the choudo chouda melody reminded me of the french advertisement for Géramont (cest bon, cest bon, geramont, geramont)
@cavemantero
@cavemantero 2 жыл бұрын
maybe he should watch Serral destroy clem because queens and banes are imba instead of filling out the form...
@Alex-d3l9b
@Alex-d3l9b 7 ай бұрын
Is it overlord before drone? Like is that correct. I have been just guessing, new to z
@videnz2664
@videnz2664 2 жыл бұрын
i never played starcraft but isnt it part of the fun that somethings are a bit imbalanced? i mean that would be basically chess no?
@whateverppl1229
@whateverppl1229 2 жыл бұрын
I can't belive this is diamond, this feels like gold or plat.
@SeanofAllTrades
@SeanofAllTrades 2 жыл бұрын
I play in platinum and I'm nowhere near as bad as either of these players. I'm so confused.
@gradius22
@gradius22 2 жыл бұрын
19:48 i remember this day9 lesson, it honestly improved my macro a lot :)
@WidgeonTV
@WidgeonTV 2 жыл бұрын
Hastem's graphics are off the chart
@VNGAMINGTV
@VNGAMINGTV 2 жыл бұрын
When i watch games like this i dont understand how it took me so long to get to master XD hahaha
@reddragon7762
@reddragon7762 2 жыл бұрын
Correction @4:50, Started with 6 lings, ended with 50% killed.
@kiyokiyoko
@kiyokiyoko 2 жыл бұрын
you missed the entire point of his advice which was path routing. he couldve kept 4 instead of 3 which is 25% extra killed
@Golab08
@Golab08 2 жыл бұрын
exactitude must be a one of Florencio's students. There's no other way.
@whateverppl1229
@whateverppl1229 2 жыл бұрын
well, new cheese series I guess. Probes only for 20 minutes.
@mauzytv
@mauzytv 2 жыл бұрын
The toss is doing the drill that Harstem thought us, but he decided to keep money low by building static defense XD I love it, tho I'd hate to deal with it XD Edit: offensive GG is just super rude.
@celonnn
@celonnn 2 жыл бұрын
Just realised that it was you who destroyed me on my first ranked game few days back.
@FPVHans
@FPVHans 2 жыл бұрын
I think the gg was just in bis muscle Memory 🦔
@YellowEllo
@YellowEllo Жыл бұрын
Tbf, when he typed gg. It would have taken a miracle to get back in the game
@Etropalker
@Etropalker 2 жыл бұрын
Cannons? BM? A disgrace to the AlbinoFly gambit
@zeratulisthegoat
@zeratulisthegoat Ай бұрын
Why was the outtro beating grandmasters with stupid stuff?
@Misha4em
@Misha4em 2 жыл бұрын
Welcome to Bronze league heroes! Oh wait wrong channel...
@ashra8281
@ashra8281 2 жыл бұрын
I half expect these to be sent by the people who win ngl
@AntiDoctor-cx2jd
@AntiDoctor-cx2jd Жыл бұрын
Does anybody else just watch and not even play competetive matches?
@DragonBleu888
@DragonBleu888 2 жыл бұрын
Harstem do u play in 4vs4 as profile name Drwormer if yes okay ^^
@DanielLewisDance
@DanielLewisDance 2 жыл бұрын
For sure staged, dia is not this bad surely Also offensive GG sounds fine to me when the game so obviously over and zerg just refusing to leave 🤷‍♂️
@mistaskate8715
@mistaskate8715 2 жыл бұрын
No way this is high diamond! Silver or gold at best ;D or staged!
@wojurera3131
@wojurera3131 2 жыл бұрын
Harstem with probes only is OP Please Nerfffff!😵‍💫
@Trazynn
@Trazynn 2 жыл бұрын
Do another 2v2 but your fellow team-mate pretends to leave in his command center except he relocates to a distant proxy and quietly builds an army while your two opponents think he's afk.
@jacko314
@jacko314 2 жыл бұрын
honestly i think this is a troll zerg. this is how i play zerg and i'm silver.
@HappyTwoBe
@HappyTwoBe 2 жыл бұрын
24:25 OH! I was watching a GM game here, I must've been lied to about it being high diamond at the beginning. Thanks for clarifying at the end Mr. Harstem! :D
@johnfridja
@johnfridja 2 жыл бұрын
actually tilted from IOTIS, finally
@MoroseMoe
@MoroseMoe 2 жыл бұрын
Protoss gets discount on assimilator if they only have probes
@matteofontana_
@matteofontana_ 2 жыл бұрын
this BGWSS video was truly amazing
@jpVari
@jpVari Жыл бұрын
I"m glad for your reaction to the offensive gg. I hate that shit.
@AntiDoctor-cx2jd
@AntiDoctor-cx2jd Жыл бұрын
I can't help but to think there's a zillion ways to beat this protoss strat.
@chir0pter
@chir0pter 2 жыл бұрын
How old are the people that submit these replays? it really seems like they must be kids or sth
@You-ul8qw
@You-ul8qw 2 жыл бұрын
4:45, Harstem lets be real here, who cares about losing lings to a cannon when your zerglings have 400 shields and 400 hp? that's plenty to tank against every single worker in the main and natural.
@branhoff
@branhoff 2 жыл бұрын
Who liked this comment? I don’t even know what it’s saying
@RMJ1984
@RMJ1984 2 жыл бұрын
Man, grandmaster players sure aren't what they used to be. This must be NA Grandmaster players in the video ? xD
@HieronymousLex
@HieronymousLex 2 жыл бұрын
They’re diamond, not GM
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