Harvest | The Tithes Breakdown | Episode 2

[@Bread-nx9fo]

I really liked the Sister of SIlence using actual sign language, very cool

[@HOSPlTALLER]

She was a cool character, the custodies was a horrible to watch, so wooden.

[@AliceBowie]

They're supposed to have their own sign language, but using BSL is like how that use fake Latin for high gothic and English for low gothic.

[@michealsoh8432]

@@HOSPlTALLERi mean, that sounds about right for your average custodian

[@cryx4]

@@HOSPlTALLER No way, the genetically perfect near demigod super soldier representing a literal god emperor isn't the most emotive character? chud

[@sez3923]

woke

[@smiley148784]

Women in 40k can be the rulers of worlds, captains of star ships, princeps of titans or generals of armies characters like Lutara and Celestine are favorites among the community. Having a male faction is not sexist.

[@Pickupthattcan]

No but it is racist

[@btf1287]

they dont want that. They want female custodians and space marines because YOU dont want it. They just want to win.

[@dariusfafoutakis8021]

You could say Xenophobic even😮​@@Pickupthattcan

[@forestjohnson7474]

​@@Pickupthattcan?

[@christopheradjakou3198]

one of the main character is a sister of silence a SISTER why does everything have to change to make a minority feel comfortable

[@spencerherron5539]

One of my favorite things about 40k lore is that the gender of the saroritas is almost never given significance to the story or characters. You don’t get any of those cliche moments where arrogant men under estimate them for being women and then get proven wrong. People don’t care that they are female because they are too busy being scared shitless of them.

[@jamescawl6904]

An army of power armoured murder nuns is always terrifying.

[@albe8479]

yeah their null field is no joke even for non psyker. I still wonder how Eisenhorn could stand near Bequin

[@tenuredsky7426]

Arbites action is always gonna be welcome and has me wanting to work more on my Arbites Null I've had for a while

[@mandodelorian4668]

Yes, I feel like the coolness of the Arbites gets totally overlooked by all the blah-blah of the custode. They're bringing it!

[@BeckiMuttley]

The Arbites I think made this episode awesome! The stand and die protocol was Epic! The scene with the power-maul was just incredible! Pump action bolter with the enforcer rounds made my day. They were really brave and competent and stood there in the face of the enemy.without taking one step back! That is how I always imagined them to be Fearless and I like the way the custodian spoke to the arbitrator like he wasn't just a meat sack.

[@reynardop7615]

Agree, i also like how the arbites was able to straight up notice the custodes uneasyness and without hesitation able to draw conclusion that shit is going down soon

[@albe8479]

probably the arbites level assigned to black ship escort are the top of the top for the planet. Probably closer to tempestus scion than imperial guard

[@ForgottenHonor0]

When people say the Emperor isn't a Chaos God, I reference his daily diet.

[@Whoisrem]

He's a quasi chaos god, could possibly accent to full as seen at the end of the horus heresy

[@secondarytrollaccount666]

​@@deltaturnip9247 you are correct he is much worse. His imperium creates hundreds of times more suffering than any chaos faction. If you want to analyze him personally an aeldar that came to earth stated his soul looked like a void whale and the chaos gods razor sharks circling him.

[@tomsule]

After ten thousand years of horrors of his eternal sleep he pretty much became one..

[@scornfis640]

It's subjective both ways. If the Emperor was alive though, Imperium of Man would just be the objectively correct faction. Thank goodness for the universe and story he isn't.

[@TSInfiMa-r6z]

​​@@secondarytrollaccount666 "Such power made Lhaerial’s mind reel, and for a moment her contempt for the creatures of Terra wavered. The mind of the Emperor was a mountain in the surging madness of the Othersea, blinding in its brilliance. The Great Powers circled this place like razorshark waiting out the death throes of a void-whale. That terrible presence held them back, and all His little servants were ignorant of it! Unease gripped her, that she would be noticed by the Dark Gods or their defier, and the fragile flame of her being snuffed out. The feeling passed. The regard of the things of the Other­sea was ossified, so long had they fixed their gaze on the Earth. The Emperor did not shift His regard. His attention was elsewhere, upon the blinding pyre of souls, navigation beacon of the mon-keigh. She had no indication she was seen. There was little relief in that. She had laughed in the face of She Who Thirsts, but the Corpse Emperor filled her with a sense of dread."

[@StaticSilence1]

For such a pinnacle of a "diplomat", she does an absolute shit job of ordering the White Templars to evac the planet. A good diplomat would have acknowledged the White Templars work and dedication to their Oath. In fact, She should have framed it as a great achievement for the White Templars. They successfully completed their Oath until the point came where the Emperor now needed the planet to intentionally fall. Instead, she brow beats him in a so-called "I'm a big badass" staredown. Quite disappointing behavior for a Custode. Some would say, arrogant, even.

[@norwardradtke1361]

Yeah GW did it to go SEE LOOK AT THE BIG BAD WOMAN WINNING THE PISSING CONTEST AGAINST A MAN lol. So cringe and obvious

[@thecringeprince2040]

She’s a Custodes. Her word is law as she carries the will of the emperor. The white Templars are lucky she didn’t cut them down for arguing her orders

[@thecringeprince2040]

@@norwardradtke1361the only thing obvious is your complete and utter idiocy. She’s a Custodes, her word is literally above all except the emperor

[@408sjluis87]

Son stfu. Space marines are the dumb brutes, pawns of the imperium but custodes are the real deal no matter the gender

[@NestlaysChaulkolateChips]

I think it's a pretty accurate depiction of powerful beings being disconnected from those who they should be protecting or working along side. I like the idea that she is stating that space marine arrogance is what led to the Horus Heresy, but she is doing the same and maybe there's learning to be had.

[@whydid666]

Also Male Custodies and Female Sisters of silence have a beautiful and complimentary relationship. The Custodies are the hard physical shield, unflinching authority and the disinclined unrelenting violence. The Sisters of Silence are the ethereal mystical, fearless towards the turbulent emotions that to anyone else would spell doom, untouchable and above/beyond petty mortal concerns. The are also unbeatable together in combat, only countered by an orbital strike. The SoS while in the best arms, armor and has undergone the pinnacle of human training, is only a human. She can be overwhelmed or outmatched in combat. The only counter to a Custodies endless martial prowess is the mystical warp. But together they shield each other's weakness and become greater than the sum of their parts. Of course, the notion that men and women being different but complimentary is anathema towards 'some people'.

[@jcross5942]

Well said my friend

[@shawnjames1107]

If custodes are the pinnacle of martial prowess then how could there be a female custody? They were akways men for a reason. If u have men custodies and women ones, the men beat the women cause of the differences between sexes. Even with genetic engineering the men would just be that much more physically powerful than the women ones

[@ghostofsparta757]

@@shawnjames1107 Two of the strongest mortal human faction in 40k are the Sister of Silence and Sisters of Battle. The difference in terms of combat between the two sexes are near nonexistent in the far future.

[@shawnjames1107]

@@ghostofsparta757 wrong , so in the far future women morphed into a complete different thing? No they are still women and weaker physically in every sense than men. those two you mentioned are inferior to custodes and space marines which are men. And just like in real life the average imperium male soldier is stronger more coordinated than women making them better warriors. This is brainwashing from reality.

[@Commanderstevo]

very well said. To change a work of art is to loose its subtle meanings.

[@austinrooks1787]

I really hope cancel culture doesn’t find you because this is the best inadvertent pep talk to men I’ve seen in a while

[@leighz1962]

Somebody is supporting white males? Reeeeeeeeeeeeeeee!!!

[@Blackstar-yd3yf]

"they are here brother ...brace yourself"

[@dildoswaggins2907]

@@Blackstar-yd3yfbolters at the ready brothers

[@Hølløwguy-f7q]

You mean the modern day version of pitch forks and witch trials

[@robdeskrd]

Really? Cause I can't this guy and I would watch him if I could find this for free.... maybe you needed a male pep talk, I don't really understand why a man would need that but every time dude speaks I worry if he is a cop somewhere..... he is giving off the violence makes his weiner tingle vibe 😬

[@murdurmuffin7872]

@Counterpoints40K At first I thought you were going to straight up ignore the elephant in the room... but you did an EXCELLENT job of not only explaining the controversy, and both sides arguments, in a dispassionate manner, you also put forward your personal feelings on the matter last. Feelings that many of us relate to such that you could have been speaking for us directly and been pretty close if not completely dead on. All while being calm, rational, and direct. I appreciate what you are doing and am glad my initial confusion was wrong. Keep it up man. Thank you.

[@Counterpoints]

I live to serve.

[@Kuraito]

@@Counterpoints I've always supported representation in 40k if people want it, but I feel like there is this weird demand that to have female representation, male representation must be destroyed, which just confuses me. Long time players have been asking for more Sisters of Battle, more Sisters of Silence, more female Guardsmen, for a decade, both men and women. There was an easy win for everyone here, but instead they just wreck things instead of giving some spotlight to the female representation already in the game. It's baffling.

“These men are my bodyguards, their lives forfeit to the guarantee of my physical safety. Of their loyalty to me there shall be no question nor doubt. I, and I alone, shall have the authority to stand in judgement over them. No other commander shall they have in battle nor in service. None shall bar them from me and none shall hamper or stall their mission. So it is decreed!” - The Emperor (Declaration made during the Age of Strife)

[@drewp8108]

The age of strife coincides with the creation of the first female custodes, circa 2024.

[@crthompson5930]

😂​@@drewp8108

[@David-nv6wv]

Maybe that Custodian is transitioning?🤣

[@samchaleau]

Yeah, but HE never said these biological males. He just said "men", and everyone knows the Big E is a transphobe who hates women. There would have been plenty of Trans Custodes rocking chick-dicks and discussing things with the other girls. Like how much their female-period was distracting them from combat duties, or how much the Empire is a disgusting capitalist patriarchy which requires dismantling into something more pure and communist. Games workshop is doing awesome. Totally not shit.

[@Emperor-Justinius]

Never Forget

[@talscorner3696]

White Templars? Haven't heard of them in a while!

[@noahsawyer7155]

Don’t they have a rivalry with the black templars

[@talscorner3696]

@@noahsawyer7155 I'm not sure, I have to admit, but, if I recall my 5th edition Codex, their homeworld changed Segmenta from Solar (back then) to Pacificus (current)

[@sebastiangiovannella7778]

But at least you have heard of them 😉

[@drontesmakor1983]

Also look up Silver Templars, they're pretty cool if you think 'my gun is my religion' is neat.

[@QuayNemSorr]

They are on a crusade to find out which Primarch they come from. They believed they were a successor to the Imperial Fist but that turned out to be false.

[@mattz1686]

Sisters of silence are awesome. There is no need to introduce female custodians.

[@Der_Dekanter]

I mean Ill be very honest it bothered me at first but rn i really dont care.

[@Tonius126]

​@@Der_Dekanterits just a start next they will recon space marines to having female counterparts

[@Der_Dekanter]

@@Tonius126 first of all we need to see. It hasn't happened yet. And I doubt it. We have the space marines and the sisters of Battle so I really doubt it. In the end it's the universe we love

[@LukeSchmidt89]

@@Der_Dekanterit’s ok to have a male space where guys can go to and enjoy! No need for female custodians

[@misanthropicservitorofmars2116]

@@Der_Dekanterthis is called boiling the frog. Youre being boiled and you don’t realize it. “This is fine”

[@AllmightySunbro]

As a Mexican, i always have felt the conection or "being represented" with certain fictional character no matter what race, sex or even if they are humans or not . In 40k for example my favorites have always been The Salamanders and The Blood Angels (not verry Mexican am i right?) "representation" is a lie, it has to do with the individual and their insecurities, not with actually representing yourself on a fictional universe by your race or gender.

[@TchHry]

Exactly. Didn't matter how or why you connected with a faction, only that you did. I'm not a world consuming horde of alien monsters... I like my nids though...

[@Leisurelee53]

I hated cinema classic 'Alien' because the hero Ripley wasn't a dude! See how idiotic that sounds? You're bang on. "Representation" is a substitute for subversion.

[@joshbernal6656]

Makes me happy that the Salamanders seem to be be getting a lot of love lately. Their continued story of kind sacrificing shows the best (that there can be) of that world. Also Vulkan as a perpetual has to come back at some point

[@squishmellowspeaks6785]

Acho cabron ten cuidado que no te quedes sin respirar al chupar tanto bicho blanco. You do realize you are connection the most with chapters who are MEANT to connect with minorities right? You bring up the salamanders, an all black chapter that has strong bonds to family and community, something also present in many Hispanic cultures. You are being influenced by rep and you don’t even realize it, all while trying to lock out others that simply with to also take part in a power fantasy. How insecure and weak do you have to be to want to lock people out of that? You literally lose nothing, and yet here you are bitching about fantasy characters having different skin tones or tits. You nothing but weak man who throws his people under the bus while using their name as shield against criticism. Yeah you have don’t need rep but you sure need to mention your nationality to gain validity on the internet right? Sad as hell, glad to see people with your mentality are dying out even in the fandom. You will not be missed

[@ianwest_probably]

The problem with this argument arises when you realize that people within these communities idealize their fantasy universe as being one where your ethnicity doesn’t exist or exist as a lesser life form. You really don’t see the problem with anyone who’s not white or male having to seek out either lesser factions or aliens in universe just to get some type of representatio? (Not to mention most humanoid aliens in war hammer are actively experiencing genocide). Also, being pissed at something as small as a woman or non-white person being introduced into a universe where the people dying in wars are in the quadrillions just exposes your personal biases. If you can’t stand to see minorities and women being represented as equals in a fantasy universe what does that say about how you or the writers feel about them in real life?

[@V3n0mCa7na63]

I enjoy his explanation of this custodes are the pinnacle of mankind. Sisters of battle are the pinnacle of women the astartes are the pinnacle of men

[@Hyde-dg7ef]

Tell that to the morons who beg for female space marines

[@forestjohnson7474]

Perfect

[@V3n0mCa7na63]

@@forestjohnson7474 I’ll overlook the women in custodes if they uphold that standard

[@johncooper551]

@@V3n0mCa7na63Not mentioning the fact that Custodes have proven themselves beyond measure, We’re crafted by Malcador and the Emperor personally, and hold some of the most advanced tech and weapons in the entire universe. It makes sense to have a few female Custodes around. Whatever faults they may have are made up with their genetic engineering and bio sculpting the emperor and malcador gave them thus is why they are very very hard to recreate

[@shawnjames1107]

The women custodes would still not be able to fit the same standard as men no matter engineering. If both men abs women got same engineering the women would not fit same standard of training and ability as men. It’s absurd. Just like in real military they had to lower physical requirements for women.

[@GothmogLives_G40]

If GW wants to go out of business that's their choice. We have the power to buy or not buy. Speak with your dollars... it's the biggest hammer we have, and that hammer can crush companies. Just ask Bud light.

[@sivel7493]

I dont care about female custodes or whatever, I really don't, but it's the reason why GW did it is what pisses me off. If you're in the loop, you know EXACTLY why GW did it, it was all because of the dumb 40k Amazon show collab after all. It's a damn shame, I personally wouldn't even mind female custodes, even more if they actually have somewhat unique armor too, but it's been established for so damn long that Sisters of Silence are basically cool female custodes, that this just simply feels like a shoehorn move.

[@allenaju1856]

Thank god someone said it, like I wouldn’t have mind it if they introduced it naturally instead of shoving it in like a pill to a patient in a Pysch ward. Next thing I see is female space marine there will only be female exclusive chapters with female characters taking more of the direction. It’s a fear of mine when things like this happen

[@markfreeman4727]

exactly, i am not opposed to the idea but it must be done for the right reasons and with care as a hotbutton topic as primaris are, they had care of some level put into them, and space marine 2 proves they can fit into 40K perfectly this fem custodian......DEI Fodder...nothing more......a disgrace to warhammer and to the idea of fem Custodians as well

[@mkvenner2]

They did it because a bunch of trolls made a big stink across social media about there being no female space marines. This was GW saying “here now shut up”

[@markfreeman4727]

@@mkvenner2 no, they desperately want to be bought out by someone so they can just do what Disney does and loan out 40k similar to Star Wars. Problem was Amazon is incredibly woke and demanded blood sacrifices, the custodies were that sacrifice

[@sivel7493]

@@mkvenner2 well if that was the case, they would've done it with space marines, but they specifically said no to female space marines suggestion from Amazon but said they can spare the Custodes instead.

[@wesbrown3831]

Thank you. I am also a veteran of both military service and civilian law enforcement... I am currently a trainer in a security company. Your points were well made and spot on. Great work, keep it up!!!

[@matthewdaniel6158]

So we can have brothers of silence now?

[@YaBoyYeti]

I wouldn't outright reject a female Custodes if it fits lore wise, but I don't like the retconning GW Writers do ever so often in their stories. That's one of the reasons why I don't like certain parts in The Death & the End Vol. III.

[@valentinvozaf647]

this

[@notjarek237]

It's just the way they did it that upset people :(

[@ILovedarkspeakerman]

Yea, it would have been better if they started getting female custodians recruited recently

[@1234Robocop]

Custodes are hand crafted super beings, why would that be limited to one gender? The emperor created them to be companions and to be intellectually stimulating, again, limiting them one gender would be boring. Space marines have geneseed that requires a human male as a limiting factor.

[@magicalmagicmagician5223]

I keep saying this! I know most of the community would not mind female custodes had they introduced them properly instead of shitty retcons on the lore But now the community is split between the hyper progressives and regular people who just want lore consistency

[@drewp8108]

The important thing to understand is that the male Custodes can open pickle jars and females cannot.

[@ikko93]

Many would say youre sexiest ^^

[@epicgamerevang4502]

keep yapping all you wanta she can break your spine in half either way loollol

[@NoodelBoy-tp5un]

@@epicgamerevang4502well yeah but can she open a pickle jar?

[@lilpointless7438]

@@epicgamerevang4502 sure, if she is real. lololololl. this a whole new level of neckbeard simping I've ever seen. even Slaanesh would spit in your face in disgust.

[@f.palmero5010]

​@@NoodelBoy-tp5un I've yet to see *any* Custodes open a pickle jar, their grip strength is so insane the glass just shatters.

[@batmann6755]

That pat at the end about representation really resonated with me. Its OK to have media that is for us. To hell with representation and to hell with woke ideologies. They should just make their own thing if they feel that way. I love WH40k, but if they try to ruin it, we'll all just move on. Then they'll be banging on the clubhouse doors of the next thing we escape to demanding to be allowed to destroy that too. I hope we can break the cycle here and now.

[@BobbyFlay517]

Yo wait wtf why is a woman a custodian. Did i miss something??

[@HonorableHarbinger]

Heresy Brother, Heresy is what has happened, the GW has fallen to slaneesh

[@darkdarius]

Workshop fell to the corruption of Amazon´s money

[@ItachiUchiha-yc9nv]

y you missed the DEI the last few Years in nearly every Film/Series/Game

[@bywhytexyz8518]

woke custodian

[@thedoruk6324]

@@HonorableHarbinger Not slaanesh I sense Tzeentch trolling us

[@Tampenismall]

A female purple ork

[@AFAndersen]

We have somewhat female ork cheerleaders in Blood Bowl, and they're great!

[@joeydahl9594]

You got your wish. There was one there the whole time hiding like the Lictor. Even they didn't notice the purple orc. 😅😅😅

[@leighz1962]

"Space orkz always had females" -Some lesbian at GW

[@justanaverage1762]

Purple = invisible

[@Linux_Fan_Boi_76]

@@leighz1962 Actually, female orks did exist in the old lore of 40k. The old lore said that when orks reached a certain age they would start to feel funny and change genders to procreate. Then GW decided the mushroom thing was cooler.

[@knooihuizen1]

Black Rock corrupts everything they invest in. Chaos in real life.

[@BlackEpyon]

What is it with Conservatives and the wanton desire to blame the Jews for everything you don't like?

[@knooihuizen1]

@@BlackEpyon I am mad that an Invester can force DEI on a company damaging 40 years of built-up lore. I am furious that Black Rock is profiteering off the Ukraine war, buying up farmland and hoarding wheat, and somehow getting the contract for rebuilding Ukraine after this conflict. I don't give a shit about their race; this monopoly has grown too big.

[@knooihuizen1]

@@BlackEpyon BlackRock is a faceless investment firm Pushing DEI on companies Making games workshop change 40 years of lore. Only a racist would assume this DEI driven Firm would be run by Jews.

[@HAPPYFUNTIMEx2]

@@BlackEpyon Who said anything about jews?

[@weaponfalcon8266]

@@BlackEpyonwait, do you really think an investment company cares about anything other than profit?

[@Jsl1993]

I’m an Asian player, and I love the small space given to represent my ethnicity through the whitescars. The mostly vanilla white scar models allows for so much creativity, and I think that’s the best approach. Kit bashing, green stuff, and 3D printers really enable players to make their armies in their own vision. I’ve never had anyone criticize my army. If anything it facilitates beautiful dialogue in which everyone involved can see how we can all carve our own domains in this large expanse without intruding on others. I’ve loved this about warhammer. I’ve always thought that the two missing legions really existed to allow hobbyists to create their own legions, and this is what I’ve done. My vision of warhammer probably differs significantly from the next person, but the immense lore allows for it without forcing it on everyone else

[@damnbyangel]

Love the White Scars brother, for the Khan!

[@ICECAPPEDSKY]

I mean you can also just straight up make your own White Scars Successor chapter to represent a specific Asian culture. White Scars is Mongolian and one of their official successors the Mantis Warriors are somewhat Chinese in culture.

[@Jay-or5ex]

​@@ICECAPPEDSKYOr, he can just make an Asian Salamander. I don't think we have to limit each Space Marine Chapter to a specified race.

[@ICECAPPEDSKY]

@@Jay-or5ex you can have an Asian Salamander but their culture is completely different. It’s an Asian with Salamander culture. So yeah you can but if you are Asian and want a culturally Asian chapter the salamanders wouldn’t fit the bill.

[@svetchannel2998]

I am Russian and I also love the White Scars, as well as the Salamanders. The White Scars for their love of freedom and onslaught, the Salamanders for their humanity and resilience.

[@warrentalbot329]

I sense the taint of chaos. The works of slanesh i shall inform the inquisition at once and notify the mechanicum we shall turn these heritics into servitors FOR THE EMPORER!!! MVP goes to the guardian spear 🎉 well played

[@Rockin4D]

Servitors are the ultimate Non-Binary :) after the modifications are complete.

[@_d--]

Never forget slaaneshi cultists used "shem" as their pronouns

[@whatsnewbois9814]

I could have sworn it was Tzeentches doing

[@xanmontes8715]

No we don't lmao ​@@_d--

[@ranielvincecabarrubias6118]

Femperot 😆

[@andrewcrane5105]

As a man im outraged! Why are there no men in the "Sisters of Silence"!!! Everyone, write to your congress leaders.

[@roadrunner250gt7]

I enjoy your videos the most of all warhammer youtubers. Especially your analysis which is backed with your lore knowledge and experience as a soldier/law enforcement officer. Best Regards from Switzerland!

[@Counterpoints]

07

[@remylebeau_]

Thanks for your constant work Connor

[@vitordanieleal]

For years warhammer 40k was a niche it took several youtubers and a particular animator to carry this universe into popularity and yet Games Workshop never fails to disappoint its own base

[@karatemanjohnson287]

The animation looks great!

[@chaosXP3RT]

Wdym?

[@hcaps3129]

Now I wanna see them show some Brothers of Battle

[@liorgoldshtein2373]

no brothers of silence

[@McBane.]

"Misters of Silence" ;)

[@DeadGothicRed]

I'm sorry I'm just imagining a bunch of Black dudes in priest like armor sets.

[@_d--]

Dudes of Silence

[@liorgoldshtein2373]

@@_d-- homies of quiet

[@Naxthural]

I don't like how female custodes were implemented. No one did. It was underhanded and they should have made it an in-lore explanation within the Codex. Imagine if they said this is new, like a very rare few females survive into becoming Custodes, and were only considered after the Lion's Gate and the Custodes needing to rebuild their numbers to the ten thousand. I agree, the thematic of Humanity at it's pinnacle - Men AND Women - Experiencing the fall of mankind and protecting it in it's dying hour is very interesting and I actually like that they went with a design that conveys that, no. Female custodes will not be dainty little princesses. They are built to be towering war machines just like their male counterparts. They gave up that beauty, that desirability that many men would seek in a woman, to become the Emperor's word. If the Adepta Sororitas are the pinnacle of the female form And the Adeptus Astartes are the pinnacle of the male form I think the Adeptus Custodes being the utter peak of humanity as a whole, the Emperor's hand-crafted vision for what mankind would look like as a whole, if he was never stopped is the far more interesting depiction than the under-developed boys in gold. I look forward to the lore, and I will happily eat my own words if this actually does turn out to be the death of a hobby that has stood the test of time. But I believe this too shall pass, it won't be a big deal in the long run because at the end of the day, GW is a business. They stand to make money from at least offering the option here and there for you to get the models you want. Proxies exist, you can kitbash. You don't NEED a female custode in your list. At the end of the day they're your funny little plastic army men. It doesn't matter one bit whether they have a hypothetical dick or not let's be real here. I have a female custode blade champion, she's a great model I kitbashed myself, I really like her. I went more feminine than this depiction, but that's only because I think both is good.

[@midgetydeath]

"I agree, the thematic of Humanity at it's pinnacle - Men AND Women - Experiencing the fall of mankind and protecting it in it's dying hour is very interesting" That starkly contrasts with history, though, and the experiences of humanity as a species. Which might be a subconscious part of why it's so unpopular.

[@Seven3four1]

21:53 100% agree. I’ve never heard anyone explain their point more eloquently and concisely regarding this matter.

[@Theghostofall]

That sister of battle and those space marines are my favorite in this.

[@IronGiant2790]

I thought it was interesting that the sister of silence seemed to be sympathetic and respectful to the White Templars' dilemma. It was a good contrast between her and the Custodes.

[@RaduAdrian-f7k]

This custode is the pinnacle of ma'am kind.

[@alexdavila1356]

if you ever call her 'sir' she'll show you a fucking sir

[@Maxwellfang-gy4wr]

I thought custodes were like a brotherhood

[@kodiak7447]

@@Maxwellfang-gy4wr they are this is woke warhammer not space marine warhammer.

[@isaiahkayode6526]

@@kodiak7447 You guys are so Werid.

[@kodiak7447]

@isaiahkayode6526 why because we like shit that's not changed for the minority?

[@nicholasmattiello8959]

You're the donut operator of Warhammer 40k

[@camboom4467]

ADEPTUS CUSTODES: A necessary sacrifice, for the good of humanity. SPACE MARINE: What you're describing is beyond "sacrifice," it's a war crime!

[@Blackstar-yd3yf]

Problem is it's like a cop with his foot in the door. You can't shut it anymore and they will just come in and raid your house 😂

[@camboom4467]

Do they have a warrant?

[@Blackstar-yd3yf]

@@camboom4467 probable cause because women

[@BlackEpyon]

Warcrimes? In MY 40k!?

[@albe8479]

@@Blackstar-yd3yf found the one who does not like taking orders from women

[@KnIf0rTITAN]

There has always been Ork Custodians......

[@elbolainas4174]

Of course they had. They've been disguised using TF2 spy-like masks with "koostoodees" written

[@Cap7171]

CUSTODIANS!?! WE DON'T NEED NO ZOGGIN' BROOMS!!!! DA DIRT MAKES DA FLASH MORE FLASHY!!!

[@solowingpixy8190]

Have you seen the IRl custodian based Orc army?

[@Joseph-mw2rl]

Orks would be THRILLED to see a humie that's taller than an ork but faster than a knife ear git

[@manuelwint7516]

The Ending Statement was amazing. You put in words what in am feeling in the past years with lot of my favorite franchise. Good open opinion and Statement. I fully agree, let us also have some untouched Refugiums left for us old, "normal" oldscool nerds. Thank you!

[@TheMattsem]

The worst thing that could ever happen to your favorite franchise it's becoming mainstream it happened to Star Wars The Witcher

[@albe8479]

yeah keep hiding that you also whimpered when she made lictor tartar

[@Altuser-w6b]

@@albe8479the black man with a lightning makes a good point

[@keepitpakt]

@@albe8479 freak

[@LifeSeenInHD]

I didn’t realize that Blackrock had their tendrils in GW… feels a bit concerning

[@rickmolina2206]

They have their hands in everything. As does Vanguard.

[@eddiel7635]

@@rickmolina2206 hahaha, what’s this US obsession with blackrock? You guys are obsessed with conspiracy theories, it’s like the enlightenment never happened. Very grim dark.

[@MrKogline]

Yeah...that's not how that works though. I hear that same stupid crap with "Vanguard" investments.

[@MrGreenTabasco]

This was the first time I heard an actually well reasoned, and, even more important, well formulated counterargument to female space marines. I am a lorejunky, having read through all of the lexicanum at 14, and now, 18 years later, I still am reading, listening and arguing about it. When the change to the custodes came, the counter argumebts I exoerienced were in general impotent and, mainly, coming from ignorant tourists who neither know any lore, nore could often even make a solid argument besides wild screeching. It was not very convincing. But you, you actually convinced me. I personally find genderlocked factions cringe, and have very little understanding for the need to divide people. But I also am now a fullgrown ass adult, and you brought back the memories how it was to be 13 and completely out of my depth. Not only that, you absolutely got me on the fact that I use 40k sometimes as a psychological stabilizier, when I find our world a bit too shit and frustating. I can only roll my eyes at the conservative buzzwords, and find the flaws in "disneys starwars" way more in horrible writing, than the screeching about a black stormtrooper. Or now a black spacemarine. Its actualky fixing the lore, or why the fuck should whiteass gingers with red beards like me popukate desert planets. I would hate it there. Its how, the sand, its irritating and it gets everywhere... However, the savespace argument tracks hard. I don't really understabd savespaces, but had an interresting epiphany when talking to a girl who was thinking about the possibilty she could be trans, and if men coudl acvept her as one of us. I did not deny her, for what do I know of her troubles, but I cane to one singular challange: If she decided to switch lanes, she should not start telling other men what it means to be a men, as she was not there when we had to go through the shit we had to go through. And its a sad fact that many of us men know exactly what I am talking about. Luckily, it turned out she did not had to go down that path and face the challanges, but it opened my eyes to the very much actual wild challaneges we men face, and others not necesaariky understand. That Spacemarines are basically the male experience on steroids (as they are, hehe) is something I did not recognise. So, thank you. You made a very good point.

[@gavir4379]

I just now realized. Not a single woman dies in The Tithes. All of the dead individuals are men, even the female null (Who was the least defended and easiest target for the Lictors) made it through.

[@urdnotwrex6969]

matriarchy.

[@Arnor2207]

Welcome to the sad vaginocracy he'll we live in. No need to wait for 40k years to experience defiance against overwhelming odds against your own faith in your vision of life

[@PR0F3SR_X]

Lol insane way to read into it. Maybe go outside for a bit?

[@svetchannel2998]

Interesting observation

[@imepriimek7451]

@@PR0F3SR_X he is goin outside that's why he can make such a valid observation. mayne it is you that need's to go outside more ? just maybe

if they destroy the foundations, the entire universe will fall

[@byronritchie5449]

The foundations rest on there only being male custodes?

[@markfreeman4727]

@@byronritchie5449 the general idea being that such a well established and long running rule cannot be altered (at least not without the proper care) think of it like a house, you can't just take a wrecking ball to the foundations and shove in what you want willy nilly, you need a solid plan and no small amount of skill. It can be done but it must be done carefully the problem setting 40K on fire is reckless alterations for quick, easy, and cheap schemes that blown up in the end anyway

[@AliceBowie]

​@@byronritchie5449As much as there only being female Sisters of Battle or Sisters of Silence, I guess, or genderless Orks, or black Salamanders. I don't care, because Custodes and Space Marines are for newbs, anyway.

[@Technovore88]

Meh, sounds kind of alarmist. WH40K seems more popular than its ever been. This feels like old guard clashing with new blood if anything.

[@byronritchie5449]

@@markfreeman4727 how is female custodes like a wrecking ball?

[@RichardVSmall]

There are no female Custodes any more than there are male sisters of silence/battle.

[@xanmontes8715]

There are brothers of battle, they're called Space Marines

[@Goodenough_media]

Well there is now ❄️ but I getcha you like your custodes with huge oily muscley bodies just ohhh sooo big 😂

[@danielOconahap]

@@xanmontes8715 but there are no female space marines. Meaning sisters of battle is not equals to brothers of battle (space marine) that you are trying to imply

[@Machoman50ta]

@@xanmontes8715FFS you know what he ment go play with your minor anime characters

[@xanmontes8715]

@@Machoman50ta play with my what...?

[@BlankForAReason]

Dude would be a toilet servitor at best.

[@Counterpoints]

what

[@tomd.191]

Your take on the controversity is great, wise words which should reach people who are in positions for the decitions.

[@reniorjd]

Not really he side stepped the issue to complain about a tot as l hypothetical. In fallacy terms he was arguing with a straw man.

[@finalgirl640]

As a female 40k lore nerd, I totally agree with literally every single point you made. This was the best I've seen yet, and it all makes sense.

[@elbolainas4174]

Remember what happened with Concord and dustborn. Even when there's media tailored to that specific audience (mostly keyboard warriors), they still don't consume it bc they don't care about getting what they want, they just want to be angry and rant on Twitter. Meanwhile when you focus on making your product fun you get stuff like Space Marine 2, Helldivers 2, Doom, etc, which can even be enjoyed by diverse audiences.

[@rnieves1013]

We need Silent Brothers! Equal rights, Equal rights😂

[@BlackEpyon]

Why not? You can't have all the male blanks becoming Jurgen clones!

[@albe8479]

from what i remember the male nulls are all piloting the psy-titans. SO unfortunate the emperor can't phisically call them into service anymore

[@BlackEpyon]

@@albe8479 I was wondering what they did with them.

[@barnmaddo]

Naw, all the male nulls get turned into culexus assassins.

[@SergeantGadriel]

Equal rights is a joke, Female custodes is a joke, GW is the circus

[@marlinman0179]

ive been in this hobby for a long while and always thought the astra militarum troops looked unfit for futuristic sci-fi settings but that artwork of one at 6:27 hit the nail on the head

[@RawenOfGrobabc]

Bro really had the right idea when in the middle of the video he said Custodians were handcrafted by the emperor. Literally nobody knows how to make custodians anymore, there was that one guy who made the video about the emperor making a key to the lock that was the individual custodian candidate, now the highest studied gene tailors are just using those old keys of the emperor and seeing which lock they can open with them. Doing this with men is fine because of the whole breeding balance thing, but doing this with women is idiotic through the same argument basis where you wouldnt send all your women to war nowadays. Youd have nobody left back home to make new soldiers. This still applies because custodians arent just made from some random people all over the imperium, they are made from the *Most genetically perfect high nobles of Terra.* Female astartes? sure, maybe. We have quadrillions of people to trial-and-error our way through the process and maybe make some female Astartes. But we dont have the same luxury for the Custodes who are currently being created at a rate of 1 per year in the setting. The emperor made them at a rate of 50 a year prior to being entombed to his throne.

[@BlackEpyon]

Funny that nobody makes the "breeding balance" argument against the Sisters of Battle, or the female units of the Imperial Guard. The Imperium has trillions of people to choose from. They're not running out of breeding pairs any time soon.

[@thefakecat8340]

​@@BlackEpyonthey did mention with custodians have a higher risk given that theyre taken from those with the best genes which the guard dont tend to have

[@BlackEpyon]

@@thefakecat8340 Given that nobility tend to inbreed, "the best genes" is a rather subjective criteria. You see it all the time in purebred animals, the ones with the best "desirable" traits tend to have a lot of recessive deleterious genes that become dominant if you keep inbreeding. RESPONSIBLE breeders will introduce a mutt or a grade into the breeding pool now and again in order to dilute the deleterious genes, but you'll notice that throughout most of the past millennium, nobility tended to avoid that. The Hapsburg lip is one famous example. Even if the Custodes selection are the best of the best of Terran nobility, they're a genetic cesspool!

[@norwardradtke1361]

This this this. I’ve mentioned the same things about birth rates and the rate bloodlines of high Terran nobility. There’s NO way those families would sacrifice their daughters to become Custodes. They were always male and they can’t make new ones. So if they weren’t made back then they can’t be made now.

[@BlackEpyon]

​@@norwardradtke1361 Wouldn't be willing to sacrifice their daughters!? Those fuckers would give the Emperor a BJ if he asked for it! They're not going to refuse him anything!

[@raymondluca7779]

26:30 they polished a turd...and failed at it

[@LuegiM-y6l]

Awesome commentary and breakdown as usual. Spot on analysis on the controversy at the end.

[@dfool06]

I for one , strongly oppose female Custodes. If GW wanted to included some more "strong independent" female characters then WHY not make NEW organizations composing "strong independent" female characters instead. NOT simply ruining the already established lore for DECADES. Although we the fans can't really do anything, no matter how frequent we object or protest to GW's decisions. I think we the fans should still ban together TO PREVENT GW from making anymore illogical decisions in the future, such as this one. By abstaining to spend money on their products for a considerable period. I 'm not saying giving up on the hobby or franchise completely. I 'm just saying we should make GW think twice by affecting their SALES quarterly, semi-annually or even annually. 1. Cancelling subscriptions (TV or any) for the mean time. 2. Postponing buying anymore codex, books, novels and models etc. 3. Simply use or play with what you have currently. 4. Finally have time to work on that pile of shame in the mean time. Make it smaller.

[@norwardradtke1361]

A ton of people ended their warhammer plus accounts of this actually, in boycott, and also because of the lack of new content on that platform

[@dfool06]

@@norwardradtke1361 I finally have time to make that big pile of shame smaller now. :P

[@Kaiser12349]

@@norwardradtke1361 Good, i was debating getting an account and i am glad I did not.

[@forestjohnson7474]

24:21 Thank you. Ive always fought against hatred. This hatred too, counterpoints, thank you again.

[@HumbugDandy]

I thoroughly enjoyed this break down. Your comments rounding out the episode were particularly well said. Thanks, from Brisbane, Australia

[@benoneli976]

I loved your breakdown of this episode, but what really touched me was your take on the female custode & gw in generell. I felt so understood, that you said the things i couldnt express/find the words myself. You not only gained a like & subscripton, you gained a Fan sir

[@soldier22881]

Thanks! 19:05 preach brother!

[@Counterpoints]

Thanks king!

[@tango33w]

I really like the breakdown on the topic of female space marine. You gave your opinion but gave both sides equal and compelling arguments.

[@wolf3474]

Eiffel heartedly agree with the end comments, and believe you hit the nail right on the head, I am fairly new to the Warhammer universe, but I am starting to appreciate the lore in history of Warhammer and I also agree that you should not change this for any demographic.

[@ironblood4238]

And the thing is 40k has legit truly badass female characters in the lore.

[@jeremyhughes9358]

I don't like the idea of female custodes but the animation team did a pretty damn good job with this one

[@dannybayley4529]

Last bit was well articulated

[@invadersquku6961]

The BlackRock infiltrator. Kow-tow to your overlords

[@sieman78]

✅✅✅

[@eddiel7635]

Bore off

[@DiekenSmith]

couldn't have said it better myself. Thank you for the input. Greatly enjoying the work. Please keep it up.

[@GhostofTerra]

Thanks for verbalizing what most of us have been thinking about the political issue at hand. We need to hold the gates against these degenerate deconstructionists harder than ever. If we let it go, the insanity will just deepen and the overton window will be pushed further by these radicals.

[@Houndmaster3665]

Chao's rot has finally reached this final bastion brothers! I WILL spill blood for this fortress! SO I ASK! WHO STANDS WITH ME?!

[@ccncomics]

“I never knew I needed this channel. absolutely fantastic. A story telling concept that’s engaging, entertaining and informative -The New York Times-

[@Aka-293]

Brienne of Tarth - Custodes

[@Realitycheckm8]

19:00 By the Emperor, well said.

[@mohsmokdad8879]

I find his take in the end to be absolutely perfect ngl.

[@columreddy]

100% behind your reasoning for the male spaces.

[@bradrankin844]

I want to say I 1000% agree 👍 with ALL YOU HAD TO SAY SIR👏🏻 This push to change an “all male military unit” to a politically correct gender neutral 💩, ALMOST makes me want to boycott 40K altogether!! I can’t stand this world of,” If you don’t like what the correct way is that we say at this moment in time..Then so what. We’ll just push it down your throat till you accept it”…..Well I’m here to STAND UP FOR MY BELOVED BELIEFS AS WELL and whats going on right now is getting REALLY OLD FAST!

[@IstvanThree]

It´s nice to see you voicing your opinion in this case. And you worded it absolutely wonderful. Thank you very much for that! Would be a shame if 40k goes down the Rings of Power road, ruining established lore.

[@atlantis9284]

No female Custodies. Women have their own factions.

[@cookiecracker2]

I think it might have gone something like this: "We need more strong women in 40k, actually..no we need more of the STRONGEST women in 40k, so how can we make that happen? Emperor? no... Primarchs? maaaaybeee....ehh no. oh! Custodes! they're the strongest, time to make'em wahmen!

[@UndeadDragonWarrior]

10/10 script explaining and providing a pretty rounded argument mate. Thank you for the effort you've put into this video, I think this was one of the best videos I've watched so far, and wasn't expecting how good it was gonna get. I also didn't know anything crazy about the Custodes (outside of TTS, RIP), but establishing a more clear divide where Astartes are the Engine of War, Sisters of battle are the Zealots of Loyalty, and Custodes are the Pillars of Humanity (excuse my vocabulary, it isn't my forte), knowing Custodes are only a cut-above because they're essentially more citizen than war machine, that they represent the capacities that society exists for (art, politics, philosophy, etc) makes greater sense how they actually fitted in the whole "Super-Soldier" collective.

[@UndeadDragonWarrior]

I just wanted to continue the last section without creating a wall of text. When you have such an array of super soldiers, Space Marines, Sisters of Battle, Custodes, knowing how they fit into the whole scheme really mattered, because of how the Primarchs existed to previously be engineered leaders, so it was all pretty rounded, but admittedly I never noticed "Art, Philosophy, etc" was a area kind of vacant, the pieces of human society, really only restricted to nobility or the hive cities?

[@ivancolonna7520]

That Custodian was a MAN!

[@GabbleFolk]

Agreed!

[@BlackEpyon]

More of a man than you, if your so insecure as to deliberately misgender somebody like that.

[@Linux_Fan_Boi_76]

cope and seethe

[@alephniguroth7105]

I accept this, or tzeenichian infiltrator.

[@darkgrip90]

IT IS MA'AM !

[@Nigachu-ic7xn]

Sandwich making machine really op

[@thatoneguy7715]

As a Star Wars fan who's gotten into Warhammer a few months ago and saw when this episode dropped, my fellow WH fans Don't let them take this from you. I have already seen what happens when they do. this is but a contained blemish on the lore, keep everything else intact and don't let it slip from you for even a moment Trans Astartes and Sisters of Battle that can go toe-to-toe with Custodians with poor lore reasoning will be your future should your dedication falter. I have experienced it before. Heed my warning. Gonna go watch more Salamander lore videos now! VULKAN LIVES STOMP STOMP

[@GiRR007]

There is no way this custodes isn't a chaos plant.

[@quidz1985]

Go woke go broke in the gaming industry. Can't please everyone.

[@oopee6060]

11 / 10 rant, thank you. Perfectly expressing our concerns in a concise and firm manner.

[@sir2854]

THERE HAS NEVER BEEN A FEMALE CUSTODES.

[@Dark_Custodes]

This is the work of tzeench. Do not let it get to you, brother.

[@ScandinavianHeretic]

And there never will be female custodes. They are not a thing.

[@BlackEpyon]

Careful you don't overdose on that copium you're huffing.

[@sir2854]

@@Dark_Custodes Such heresy........

[@ragnarx88]

Kudos to that Statement in the End. Well said Sir

[@ace_ofchaos9292]

The sigmarxists aren’t gonna be happy with you about this.

[@sgtrock68]

No, that doesn't work for me. This behavior can't be rewarded by only giving them my money for "the parts I like".

[@garyo8481]

bruhhhhh what heresy have i just witnessed, call an inquisitor, i need judgement

[@countsnowyofgwainn3996]

I just wanted to say You are without a doubt awesome 😎👍 hearing you talk about not only the episode but the pep talk at the end has made me feel proud yet humble And reinvigorated in spirit. I hope you are in good health and keep up the good work.

[@JUST_SOME_SHY_GUY]

They destroyed Stars Wars and I will not allow them to destroy WH40k 😤😤😤

[@Jarlaxle33]

Where are my misters of battle us males need representation

[@madisonmcclure8243]

I always find it funny when any warp-related shenanigans story begins with “Woops! Warp storm; all the astropaths die immediately.”

[@EricLin-o3v]

I cannot get used to female Custodes.

[@UntergrundTube]

The biggest mystery is, how this one sister of silence was allowed to wear a custodian armor, weapon and was breaking their pledge of silence.

[@itshunni8346]

Man did i love the Arbites in this, its not often we get to see the more normal forces of the imperium shine when Space Marines and Custodes are in the thing, but it was really cool to actually see them do something that wasn't immediately die in large numbers.

[@darkage5]

There is more than enough representation in Warhammer 40k. It's also entertainment. It doesn't need representation. You have what you get. I don't want to see a female Custodes because it isn't necessary to have one. However, What i will say is that she is exactly what i would expect a female Custodes or Space Marine would look like. Neither are going to be sexy fem fatales. They are going to be big ugly brutes due to the loss of estrogen. Look at any un enhanced female body builder. So at least they got that right.

[@byronritchie5449]

How come you don’t like representation? Do you not like seeing minorities and women?

[@piposull08]

Valid point, I don't see a major problem with having female Custodes or Astartes and I don't see the benefit in getting outraged. I'm a 40K fan and have gotten very into the IP in the past few years, I enjoy the painting side and I'm very into the lore and recently been playing Space Marine 2 and it's awesome. Just because it was all male and predominantly geared towards males 40+ years ago doesn't mean things can't change and adapt. I don't see how adding in female variants takes away from anyone's enjoyment. You still have access to all of the models and content that already exists and as you pointed out if you show a female Custodes or Astartes they should probably look like the above, you can't even tell the difference since they should all be big hulking monsters in power armour. I get that for some people this is THEIR thing and it's something they connected with at a young age, but there's more than enough room to include some modern sensibilities and variety, I also agree there's already a lot of diversity in the 40K universe so I don't buy anyone stating that there's a lack of representation when almost every faction has a varied showing of gender, race etc.

[@memyself6454]

oh my God Warhammer is going woke

[@בראורן-ק5ז]

@@piposull08 i think the outrage is more about the current trend in game development of forcefully putting minorities, woman and LGBTQ+ people just to check boxes without care about the story not only does this end in a lot of cases misrepresentation and clear virtue signaling its also ruin a lot of the story. while this is but a small change that really in my opinion doesn't mean anything its the fear of the fans over what stuff like this can do to a franchise as we have seen with star wars which is now considered to be 100% dead, we all care about Warhammer we don't want it to get ruined. also if this was about adapting the story they would have have at least tried to come up with a lore reason as to why we have never seen any female Custodes until now. in my personal opinion this freak out over the changes are untestable but to me not necessary as this is just one case when we start seeing a pattern of GW sacrificing the story of Warhammer in order to appear more inclusive and to do some virtue signaling them this kind of response is required.

[@ScandinavianHeretic]

@@byronritchie5449 Warhammer 40k has always had males and females in abundance, why are you unable to see them? Do you not like any of them? Female Custodes are not a thing and you seem upset by it and fail to even recognize whats already there. You explain that first.

[@Bottlekiller]

This is even worse than I thought. Not only did they put a female Custodes in for purely political reasons, but they also made her into a raging feminist witch. RIP Games Workshop I guess.

[@johndoe-te6mg]

I love how you articulated your point on the “female” agenda in warhammer. Your argument points were well thought out and executed to satisfaction. ✊🏽

[@pendrake40]

1.) *_Sisters of Silence_** --* I have liked how the Sisters of Silence are depicted (sign language) as literally silent (mute); not just metaphorically, as in _'silencing'_ the Warp due to their Blank/Pariah/Untouchable nature. 2.) *_Adeptus Arbites_** --* A good 40-K lore-accuate detail, easily missed/overlooked..? The Arbitrators are *NOT* using boltguns, but rather Arbites *_shotguns._* While Arbites shotguns are _Verstile_ guns, capable of loading and firing a variety of ammunition-types, including bolt shells, Arbites shotguns can only do so in single shots, *NOT* semi- or fully-automatic fire as boltguns. 3.) *_Female Adeptus Custodes_** --* I take a more _'middle ground'_ stance on female Custodes. I do not mind having female Custodes as official 40-K Canon, but *NOT* at the cost of RetCon-ning preceding WarHammer 40-K history/lore. What _'could/should'_ have been done is that with Roboute Gulliman and with Bellisarius Cawl bringing progressive change to the Imperium, that the 40-K writers could have also introduced the capability to have/create female Custodes, in-tandem with Primaris Space Marines upgrades, under the premise that the need to expand the ranks of the Imperium forces, at all levels, has never been greater (especially with the spilt of the Imperium by the Great Rift and the upsurge of the Tyranids). This would have given the emergent female Custodes an open book with blank pages to write their own stories and establish themselves in the 40K-'verse, as much as alongside the Primaris Space Marines. Thanks for uploading this, *Counterpoints40K.* :)

[@BlackEpyon]

You act as if the lore HASN'T been retconned over and over again over the past 30 years.

[@pendrake40]

@@BlackEpyon -- I am neither acting as, nor saying, such things. *:)* 1.) *_Yes,_* I am aware that WarHammer 40,000 lore has been RetCon-ned many times across its decades (1987) and editions (10th). 2.) The counterpoint being that the 40-K writers *did not* have to do such a _'radical'_ (40-K inquisitorial pun intended) RetCon in order to add female Custodes to 40-K Canon. As said in in my initial Comment, female Custodes could have been added without having to RetCon, but instead add female Cusodes to the 40K -'verse _progressively._ This could have avoided (or at least mitigated) much of the controversy over having female Custodes.

[@alphaxbox3728]

​@@BlackEpyon The mindset of "Well its happened before why is it an issue now?" Is such a backward one and has no real argumental ground to stand on.

[@BlackEpyon]

@@alphaxbox3728 Because it isn't any more of an issue now than it was back then. Unless you got a problem with women in your sacred men's only space.

[@alphaxbox3728]

@@BlackEpyon again, a very shaky and disingenuous stance. I do not want men in the Sisters of Silence or Sisters of Battle. I'd be throwing the same issues if they introduced a man in a pre-established single gender group. The Custodes have always been referred to as the Nobles Sons. Always as a brother hood. Your defending change for change sakes friend. Not because it adds anything, not change for a good story. Change because a group of people can't stand there's an all male group. Even though NO ONE has ever complained about the All Female counterparts.

[@louisdahlia]

#Boycott40k #BoycottGamesWorkshop Retcon the retcon. There has NEVRE been female Custodes or Astartes.