Bullets | The Tithes Breakdown | Episode 3

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@aaroncarter4019
@aaroncarter4019 Ай бұрын
This was kind of off. The ammunition wasn't collected because it was expressly needed on another battlefield, it's the tithe the planet/group owes for its existence within the Imperium. It's slated to be received after a set amount of time regardless of the current conditions. They didn't do it because the battlefield was already lost and they just wanted them to die. The munitorum has it on the books that it is owed, thus it is paid. By all means the expectation is that the guard makes do regardless after they have been left with only melee weapons. Similar thing with the ending, the attendant isn't upset because the offering is meagre. She's upset because they're already overburdened by their stores of other tithes and thus condemn it to obliteration since the storage platform can't take the strain. The excellence of the episode is that they all served nobly and still died for nothing because the lumbering bureaucracy of the Adminstratum had it on the record that it was time to pay a tithe. Glory, honour, victory, are nothing to a galaxy spanning war machine that counts every bullet.
@aguspuig6615
@aguspuig6615 Ай бұрын
Eh i like CPs point more
@mrfun177
@mrfun177 Ай бұрын
except its complete bs cus if a planet is at war the Tithe will be reduced or pushed back to be collected later since the administratum would rather get is later then permanently lose the planet.
@MNM-lq9te
@MNM-lq9te Ай бұрын
​@@aguspuig6615but his isn't factual. The op's is.
@2shae475
@2shae475 Ай бұрын
@@aguspuig6615 It's wrong though.
@LA-hx8gj
@LA-hx8gj Ай бұрын
Well said
@tribacioustee2846
@tribacioustee2846 Ай бұрын
Isn't 'orkish sniper' an inside joke by the imperium for someone killed by the Inquisition? I liked this episode anyway, the commissar and sergeant were likeable representations for their classes
@kieslingsfilms
@kieslingsfilms Ай бұрын
Correct.
@guimatthbenon8511
@guimatthbenon8511 Ай бұрын
Yes, coming from the celestial lions being killed by "ork snipers" (they were vindicare assassins).
@kieslingsfilms
@kieslingsfilms Ай бұрын
@guimatthbenon8511 What...... The inquisition would never......... how dare you..... it was clearly ork snipers who hit multiple shots on target........
@minhducnguyen9276
@minhducnguyen9276 Ай бұрын
Orks snipers exist. They're just not the way the Celestial Lions got wiped out.
@lolbitbot4791
@lolbitbot4791 Ай бұрын
Orks do have snipers, they aren't good though. Ork snipers mainly just enjoy shooting more then chopping, so naturally they normally shoot alot. Gretchin also sometimes work as snipers. Generally there isn't something you'd consider a normal sniper in any orc army
@eldritchmorgasm4018
@eldritchmorgasm4018 Ай бұрын
Destroying ammo while not having enough, sounds like heresy to me. But, to reason, is to consider lies...
@ajollyduck
@ajollyduck Ай бұрын
Imperial aircraft are some of my favourites in all of fiction, in appearance they're either a flying brick, designed during the cold war or an actual functional looking aircraft.
@redpilldiogenes4741
@redpilldiogenes4741 Ай бұрын
The orks planes look more aerodynamic for some reason 😂
@Eskeletor_210
@Eskeletor_210 Ай бұрын
@@redpilldiogenes4741dakka jet reminds me of post war jet technology
@johnpupkin509
@johnpupkin509 Ай бұрын
@@Eskeletor_210 MiG 15
@Jay-rp7vg
@Jay-rp7vg Ай бұрын
Is it just me or are some of those Ork designs exactly like the ones from the short Krieg animation I love it
@Counterpoints
@Counterpoints Ай бұрын
They are. They're Ork Kommandos from the Kill Team Box Set. I do not care AT ALL if they recycle models as long as they make cool stories/action sequences with them.
@aguspuig6615
@aguspuig6615 Ай бұрын
@@Counterpoints i think it was a cool throwback, we got that same commando vs chainsword fight, except this time the ork got the upper hand
@captainfordo6142
@captainfordo6142 Ай бұрын
It is, but I don't really mind both for the fact that well c. G I is hard and also for the fact that these are orks I wouldn't be surprised if a few look the same
@patrickiamonfire965
@patrickiamonfire965 Ай бұрын
@@Counterpoints It was always about the stories and living them through models. Quick question if guardsmen had lasguns and grenades which would pierce through ceramite like the old hotlas (before they became hellguns) but doesn't have the disadvantages of it; how would it effect the settings in large?
@Counterpoints
@Counterpoints Ай бұрын
@@patrickiamonfire965 space marines would become obsolete and too expensive to produce considering the average guardsman or cultist could cut them down from a few hundred yards
@aguspuig6615
@aguspuig6615 Ай бұрын
Gotta love Comissars man, he noticed it felt kinda shitty to leave the planet, so he just stays, i wouldnt be surprised if that show of commitment made their last stand twice as effective. They arent just there as discipline officers to make orders be followed, they are also there as genuine moral support and moral example, great to see.
@ForestRaptor
@ForestRaptor Ай бұрын
The good ones...
@m.sydneyvern2260
@m.sydneyvern2260 Ай бұрын
I still find if very amusing that the Orkz have the most reasonable figther craft designs as Flyboyz just use MiGs while Imperium's fighters are just so boxy and look nothing like how a figther should.
@akelhf9806
@akelhf9806 Ай бұрын
That's the first thing I thought when I saw the orcs fighters, they're literally just orc-ified MiG-15's and I love it
@Kaiser0hmega
@Kaiser0hmega Ай бұрын
@@akelhf9806 Same, though I must admit I thought of the MiG-17 due to the bulky size of the chassis
@EcchiRevenge
@EcchiRevenge Ай бұрын
Well if you squint hard enough you can see imperial fighter being a spitfire with the wrong rolls-royce engine(as in, from the car) attached to the front.
@bongbongGAMING7878
@bongbongGAMING7878 Ай бұрын
The orcs have Mig designs while the Imperium have Roblox
@Inquisitor_Karl
@Inquisitor_Karl Ай бұрын
I also find your comment reasonably heretical. Can you step inside my office so we can Execu... i mean "Talk"?
@roguecarrick816
@roguecarrick816 Ай бұрын
so a couple things about this animation bugged me. and they all boil down to why the guard use las weapons. the fighters in addition to the auto cannon have lascannons, the guard have AA lascannons that would be wired into the hives reactors, and guardsmen hoard las packs, you can set them out in the sun or in a camp fire and get half a magazine charge. las packs wouldnt be on a munitions list for transfer off world. and multi lasers and lascannons would still be up, every round is expended but the lasers remain.
@Counterpoints
@Counterpoints Ай бұрын
Excellent point
@ombrepourpre7562
@ombrepourpre7562 Ай бұрын
Agreed... Many things doesn't ad up in this episode. Cool animation, but write by idiots 🤔
@RedHornSSS
@RedHornSSS Ай бұрын
they had to ignore those to write up the most cynical scenario
@aaroncarter4019
@aaroncarter4019 Ай бұрын
Assuming they had the lascannons in the first place since all the emplacements are standard AA. Recharging lasgun cells in fires is a last ditch tactic that takes several hours to recharge them. It's not standard practice because it significantly reduces the lifespan of the cell and cuts its shot capacity by half. After doing it two to three times you've likely ruined the cell. That's why they're supplied with multiple, the main way they get charged is by being collected post battle and used with specialised equipment. Those cells don't last as long as most think.
@ThorGiske
@ThorGiske Ай бұрын
Makes no sense ..no bullets ...um they use battery packs that they recharge
@dustyjohnson9097
@dustyjohnson9097 Ай бұрын
This is why imperial guard is my favorite faction, even more than space marines. Regular people with flashlights and paper armor, treated like numbers and meat. Still they fight and yes if I had a choice I'd be a guardsman, cause then after I fought my 15 hours or less. I'd meet the emperor as a man
@thestanleys3657
@thestanleys3657 Ай бұрын
The banter on the drop ship reminds of a similar scene in the first Predator movie with Arnie
@michaelvieregge2257
@michaelvieregge2257 Ай бұрын
"Mines as big as a house.....big as a house "
@cerealeater7369
@cerealeater7369 Ай бұрын
I didn't notice the heat coming off that plasma pistol before. That was a nice detail
@DeadGothicRed
@DeadGothicRed Ай бұрын
I mean you gotta give credit to the animation and writer teams. They really stepped up their game. Also the grenadier trooper was a nice addition.
@kyuubimadara
@kyuubimadara Ай бұрын
I think this is the closest thing I've seen an episode portray a skirmish with orks in a manner similar to the Astartes 2 trailer. Oh the things that could've been...
@kyuubimadara
@kyuubimadara Ай бұрын
And can I just say... that coordinated attack at 11:16 between the two kasrkin to do a bayonet takedown on that ork is fraking beautiful
@MNM-lq9te
@MNM-lq9te Ай бұрын
​​@@kyuubimadarathose were regular guardsmen not kasrkin.
@kyuubimadara
@kyuubimadara Ай бұрын
​@@MNM-lq9teYou're right. Makes it even more noteworthy then
@sanskerl6341
@sanskerl6341 Ай бұрын
I do wander, did the Imperial Guard stop using those rechargeable energy packages for their lasguns? I thought that was the reason they stopped issuing autoguns
@aaroncarter4019
@aaroncarter4019 Ай бұрын
@@sanskerl6341 The guard commander mentions that their packs are falling apart from being recharged so many times. Lasgun cells can be recharged by heat sources but they wear out still and it's not a slow process. The Imperial guard still employs a vast variety of weapons that use projectiles, including autoguns. This also varies between guard units, there was one guard unit that was on horseback and all they had were spears from their homeworld. Just because one carries M42 pattern lasguns doesn't mean the next one won't have M33 handguns.
@Eskeletor_210
@Eskeletor_210 Ай бұрын
@@aaroncarter4019the atillan rough riders?
@aaroncarter4019
@aaroncarter4019 Ай бұрын
@@Eskeletor_210 Quite possibly though within the story the commander didn't refer to any specific regiment nor them having power weapons. They were described as legitimately having wooden spears.
@MrSubsound90
@MrSubsound90 Ай бұрын
Thank you for breaking down and helping makethese great content creators known!
@mostlyjovial6177
@mostlyjovial6177 Ай бұрын
*Spoilers* The ending is exactly how you create traitors. All that work, death , and dooming a world and everyone on it just so the tithe is wasted. It’s so bleak and depressing.
@aguspuig6615
@aguspuig6615 Ай бұрын
I hope there was a good explaination as to why the supplies couldnt just be sent back
@rainforcer1
@rainforcer1 Ай бұрын
​@@aguspuig6615 The fleet doing it job collecting them but the storage facility already full because they haven't sent it content to the battlefield. Probably bad management at latter.
@MNM-lq9te
@MNM-lq9te Ай бұрын
​@@aguspuig6615because then the ministratum had to order it, do the paper work for it and gather the forces and ships to do the order and it could take years or even decades before the same supplies get back and when they do they arrive to either a ork planet or barren wasteland. The ministratum is a disjointed mess that with a single mistake pen placement of a dot or line while doing the paper work could doom entire worlds, this episode shows how vital the ministratum is but how shit it is.
@panos617
@panos617 Ай бұрын
The ending of this episode make me to have two theories : 1) The Imperial Burocrats mabe have been corupted by Chaos. 2) There is an "Imperium" inside the Imperium. They want to explore the oportunity to rule behind the scenes and they are willing to do anything in order to achive it.
@betola12
@betola12 Ай бұрын
@@panos617 Nah mate, that's how the Imperium, and specially the administratum, works. The Imperial bureaucracy is kafkaesque in their nature with how rigid and pointless most of the times it is. Imperial tithes are a product of that. Anomaly weather pattern affects planetary production? Unusual warp storm disturbs the arrival of raw material to the planet? Sickness decimated the population? War broke out? A revolt? It doesn't matter, the Administratum already calculated centuries ago what the planet was capable of produce and they expect that every time a tithe ship arrives to the planet. And the Imperium isn't merciful to the worlds that fail to pay the tithe.
@CactusCowboyDan
@CactusCowboyDan Ай бұрын
That’s it, I’m renouncing the Emperor and joining the Tau.
@Future-Corpse
@Future-Corpse Ай бұрын
Gaaaayyyy
@CactusCowboyDan
@CactusCowboyDan Ай бұрын
@@Future-Corpse Criiiiiingggge
@Artemis217
@Artemis217 Ай бұрын
Count me in. This episode is perfectly right. No wonder why chaos is winning. 😅
@boeingnz
@boeingnz Ай бұрын
Orks are suppose to shoot everywhere. Dawn of War got it right. Their cloths looked too clean too.
@aguspuig6615
@aguspuig6615 Ай бұрын
i mean those are komandos, so a little less 'orky'
@agentc7020
@agentc7020 Ай бұрын
These aren't your standard boyz, Kommandos are a little more accurate, more cunningly brutal than brutally cunning.
@boeingnz
@boeingnz Ай бұрын
@@aguspuig6615 And the guard called them "scouts" and nearly got wiped out. 😆
@thomasdallor2128
@thomasdallor2128 Ай бұрын
They were ork kommandos, basically ork special ops
@soldier22881
@soldier22881 Ай бұрын
be glad they didint paint themselves purple or there wouldnt be a fight
@silkyjohnson4208
@silkyjohnson4208 Ай бұрын
Emperor of mankind be like."I need mo boolets!"
@iloveplayingpr
@iloveplayingpr Ай бұрын
I hope Guilliman can fix the bureaucracy to a degree, cause it's killing his effort to save the Imperium.
@MrJH101
@MrJH101 Ай бұрын
Hopefully, but something tells me that not even a demigod could fix ten thousand years of clusterfks
@Tampenismall
@Tampenismall Ай бұрын
Gonna love how the F word still exists in 40k
@Indoor_Carrot
@Indoor_Carrot Ай бұрын
I liked in the Gaunts Ghosts novels, Dan Abnett created a new curse word they use, "Feth".
@alithanar8
@alithanar8 Ай бұрын
@@Indoor_Carrot good ole Tanith Tree Spirits
@MrJH101
@MrJH101 Ай бұрын
Makes sense no matter what they use. Different slang words for the same thing, naturally occurs in an empire of a million different colonized planets.
@geordimi
@geordimi 8 күн бұрын
They usually use "frak" in the novels..
@ThaAkumaRed
@ThaAkumaRed Ай бұрын
Counterpoints commentary NEVER EVER EVER ceases to amaze me. My BY FAR favorite KZbinr
@Counterpoints
@Counterpoints Ай бұрын
Thanks king appreciated
@amosmcneal
@amosmcneal Ай бұрын
remember people orks arent funny in real life
@wiaf8937
@wiaf8937 Ай бұрын
if they believe they are, they are. WAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAGH
@warrentalbot329
@warrentalbot329 Ай бұрын
​@wiaf8937 another xenos loving heritic!! Its time for servitor school i shall alert the mechanicum at once . HAIL the OMNISIA
@zhengbq
@zhengbq Ай бұрын
tf you mean real life my guy. There's no orks in real life
@warrentalbot329
@warrentalbot329 Ай бұрын
@zhengbq i sense the taint of chaos in you i shall alert the inquisition its time for the Emporers mercy . Ha no orks wait till they show up on your paltry little planet with their hideous waaagh . you and all the worshipers of gork will pay
@rantymcrant-pants9536
@rantymcrant-pants9536 Ай бұрын
@@zhengbq He said hoping we're not just a lost world of the Imperium.
@spartana1116
@spartana1116 Ай бұрын
2:30 huh first time i heard anyone in 40k say fuck, you figure that being the most common word to use would mean it'll survive to 40k but no everyone uses a alternative substitute for it
@ksh2596
@ksh2596 Ай бұрын
Same. I remember reading feth and maybe feck though (or it may have been feckless)
@nathanjangs
@nathanjangs Ай бұрын
3:15-3:24 Pilot: "Im out of ammo" Emperor: "You are the ammo" *Pilot proceed to emulate his terran ancestor* "帝国 空軍のほこりと名誉 おれの 先祖 のためにおれはいくぞ、万歳!" Translated: "For the glory and honor of the Imperial Air Force and for my ancestors I go, Banzai!"
@Diehard40kfan
@Diehard40kfan Ай бұрын
You're breakdowns are great! I've learned so much about the lore that didn't even know I didn't know!
@Counterpoints
@Counterpoints Ай бұрын
@@Diehard40kfan 07 I live to serve
@TheMuffinMan40k
@TheMuffinMan40k Ай бұрын
Aaaand this is why people consider Chaos as a viable option. At least with them, you know your getting screwed instead of being conned into thinking that you're fighting the good fight only to have your ammo taken away without rhyme or reason.
@thomasdallor2128
@thomasdallor2128 Ай бұрын
Seeing the ork kommandos were soo cool
@mikeva3975
@mikeva3975 Ай бұрын
I love the Kasrkin so goddamn much. I'd love to see more of them in action.
@caseyjfromli3240
@caseyjfromli3240 Ай бұрын
Seeing them have confidence in what they are creating is the ultimate blue pill fr
@abbadullreee3298
@abbadullreee3298 Ай бұрын
What's a blue pill?
@sebasblos1
@sebasblos1 Ай бұрын
​@@abbadullreee3298 a pill that makes your blood more "liquid". it can be used for treatment for heart issues... is totally not used for its secondary effects nope, never, nada, believe the youtube commenter, i dont lie
@aguspuig6615
@aguspuig6615 Ай бұрын
@@abbadullreee3298 The red pill is sort of like waking up to a conspiracy, realising how fucked things are. Blue pill therefore is the oposite, the feeling of ''phew, its gonna be okay''. Basically it means reasuring
@JORDAN77777777777
@JORDAN77777777777 Ай бұрын
please elaborate
@caseyjfromli3240
@caseyjfromli3240 Ай бұрын
@@JORDAN77777777777 sure thing they have confidence in their animation style, and in their ability to tell good warhammer 40k stories with great action, for a long time this wasn’t the case and you could tell by the editing style of a lot of their previous content. Remember that this content costs A LOT of money to make so you gotta make sure you get your bang for your buck and clearly they feel like they have gotten to a point where they can do that on a somewhat consistent basis now.
@kp-fo8yr
@kp-fo8yr Ай бұрын
Those Orks airplanes looks like a Mig 15
@Tommybotham
@Tommybotham Ай бұрын
3:19 This is why the IoM still has 10 toes down against an entire galaxy even after the madness that was the Horus Heresy. The goddamn Imperial Guard.
@honestwarmonger4662
@honestwarmonger4662 Ай бұрын
Damn ork sniper with 0 kills
@GenJuhru
@GenJuhru Ай бұрын
He had a dream.
@h.h.w6084
@h.h.w6084 Ай бұрын
I am kind of confused by this episode. First of all, this does not seem to be the Imperial Tithe. This is at most a wartime requisition of material. The ACTUAL imperial tithe usually involves 2 things. Soldiers, and material, no? The Departmento Munitorum oversees the collection of soldiers, and the Departmento Exacta oversees the material. And the genuine imperial tithe usually also involves the planetary governor, various administratum overseers along with military forces like Adeptus Arbites. What is shown on the episode does not match the exact criteria. Where is the Administratum clerk to oversee the loading? The Arbites to act as muscle? Infact, would it not make MUCH more sense for these materials to be requisitioned by the planetary governor? After all, it is HIS planet that has been underperforming in the Tithe. Why is, instead of the planetary governor being roasted over an open flame by the various adepti, a seemingly off-world regiment of cadians (or they could have been relocated to the planet, but still) to be forced to give up their ammunition? Look, I get that the episode was meant to depict the imperium as this monolithic machine of unstoppable and unknowable bureaucracy, but they could have ensured it made at least a *little* more sense.
@YOGI-kb9tg
@YOGI-kb9tg Ай бұрын
No this is completely in check for 40k the tithe HAS to happen they don't a choice and they don't stop the tithes unless the world is no longer capable of producing a tithes even if the recorded end up getting destroyed. The impirium are the bad guys and they are so much of a bloated empire that this is exactly what the impirium would do to an absolute T. Like seriously you have entire planets and systems lost or destroyed because some ministorum clerk filed some paper work in the wrong section.
@_d--
@_d-- Ай бұрын
They lost me at the orks dying by bayonet punctures.....
@YOGI-kb9tg
@YOGI-kb9tg Ай бұрын
@@_d-- except they would die to that if you even paid attention they stabbed the Ork in the neck right below the head and also orks are not invincible
@aaroncarter4019
@aaroncarter4019 Ай бұрын
This is really poor critical analysis I have to say, in a similar form to that of the likes of cinemasins. The bulk of what you laid out is based on assumed oversight or details that aren't specified within the body of the work. This is the Imperial tithe because it is declared as such, directly in episode. What a world tithes varies dramatically between worlds, some offer food goods, troops and raw resources. Others provide only one resource. TIthes can vary further with some taking special resources because as with everything consistency is not the goal. The Adminstratum works to its own goals, it will unfairly balance its tithes as it pleases. Furthermore, it can call a tithe at any time, some planets have been tithed multiple times within the same year. The guard refer to the group that supplies them collectively as the munitorum as do most people. They don't specify which group in conversation and may not even be educated enough to know the difference. In the previous episode arbites were featured to collect the tithe. They are not here because, if one considers the situation for a second, they are likely dead already or are dead weight in a full on war. Same with the clerk, not necessary. Though again, you're assuming there's not one aboard the ships who did oversee it. Same with the governor, nothing present suggests the governor didn't okay this very thing. Though it doesn't matter if he does or not, because the Adminstratum has the go ahead to tithe as it pleases and even send forces to take the tithe if a planet doesn't meet quota. They aren't cadians, they're more likely local Imperial Guard.
@h.h.w6084
@h.h.w6084 Ай бұрын
@@aaroncarter4019 Fair enough. I Agree with your points about assumptions and details that are lacking in this short episode. However, I will still defend my opinion. Let me go through your statements. First, the Tithe. "This is the Imperial tithe because it is declared as such, directly in episode." Of course its part of the Imperial Tithe, that is the entire point of the series. To showcase the process of collecting the various tithes. What I am arguing is that actual *collecting* part does not match established canon. "The Adminstratum works to its own goals, it will unfairly balance its tithes as it pleases." This is incorrect. Generally speaking, the Administratum (and by extension, the Adeptus Terra) balances the Tithe into several grades. After all, if you plunder the entire planet for its foodstock, next time there wont be much of a planet to collect the Tithe from. So declaring that they unfairly balance stuff is partly incorrect. Whilst it is not often shown *exactly* how it is calculated, it doubtlessly involves a lot of scribes, personnel and manpower to calculate the level of Tithe that is to be collected from each planet and sector. "Furthermore, it can call a tithe at any time, some planets have been tithed multiple times within the same year." This depends HIGHLY on how industrialized the planet and the sector it resides in actually is and how stable the warp is. Is it the crown-world of the local sector government? Is it part of a string of tightly-knit hive worlds? Is the warp calm? Is the sector/system backwater? All of these things determine how often the tithe is. Now sure, the bigger and more important worlds can probably be tithed multiple times a year or even each month. "The guard refer to the group that supplies them collectively as the munitorum as do most people." Except the Departmento Munitorum is the *specific* organization responsible for supplying the Imperial Guard. Most Imperial Guard officers would indeed know this, due to the sheer amount of paperwork involved on an operational level. Infact, some larger regiments may even have their own staff of Munitorum scribes to handle the paperwork. "They are not here because, if one considers the situation for a second, they are likely dead already or are dead weight in a full on war." Except the Arbites have been described as "....are equipped to be self-sufficient and to support a complete Arbites army..." (Codex Imperialis, Background book). So the arbites would *not* in fact be dead-weight in a war zone. They have their own army groups and almost always reside in several huge and fortified Precinct-Fortresses. "Same with the clerk, not necessary" Except the clerk is *very* necessary. This is the Imperial Tithe. The single most important thing ANY planet of the imperium has to contribute to. To steal from the Tithe is to steal from the Emperor himself (because the resources are considered to be property of the Adeptus Terra and by extension the Emperor.) So no, a clerk is in fact *vitaly* important to oversee the successful collection. And now, for the most glaring issue: "Though it doesn't matter if he does or not, because the Adminstratum has the go ahead to tithe as it pleases and even send forces to take the tithe if a planet doesn't meet quota.......They aren't cadians, they're more likely local Imperial Guard......." And here we get to the problem. The Administratum did indeed order the Tithe to be collected. The problem is that the Departmento Exacta would be handling the colleciton of this specific Tithe. The guard regiment is under purview of the Munitorum. Both the Munitorum AND the Exacta are under the Administratum. See what im getting at? The Imperial Guard most likely has its orders to relocate to this specific planet in order to defend it. Perhaps they even have standing orders to defend it at all cost? *Perhaps* they even had to requisition the planet's ammunition? IN FACT, the regiments own Comissar would have the necessary authority to sign off on any emergency requisition because *all* Comissars are Munitorum officers and formally part of the Ordo Tempestus. And THIS is what im trying to get at. This is the Departmento Exacta, barging into an active warzone, without the actual scribes, without the arbites or any other personnel usually associated with the Tithe. Then, they order a group belonging to a *DIFFERENT* organization to hand over their supplies! Would this not be considered a gross overreach of their authority?? Infact, the Commissar *with* them would know that it is the Munitorum that deals with the Imperial Guard and their equipment, *not* the Exacta. Of course, if it is actually revealed that the local regiment was actually a part of the PDF, this entire tangent of mine is pretty much useless.
@Shattered3582
@Shattered3582 Ай бұрын
6:46 what we forget is how tough everything is in Warhammer. those rounds were easily 50 caliber or higher rounds, and the thunderbolts took it like it was nothing
@Realitycheckm8
@Realitycheckm8 Ай бұрын
3:15 "This is Halo 2, I'm going in."
@darkbasilix2019
@darkbasilix2019 Ай бұрын
I got the mass, noble out
@Robahomusic
@Robahomusic Ай бұрын
I have no issue with this episode. Great stuff.
@pplr1
@pplr1 Ай бұрын
Thinking further I this may be why Ultramar is so strong and impressive compared to the rest of the Imperium. It has a level of competence when it comes to distribution of supplies.
@adamcarrier3076
@adamcarrier3076 Ай бұрын
Amazing work as always. Learned lots!
@michaeld7925
@michaeld7925 Ай бұрын
I'm so happy that I've found this channel. Good views and point and lore. the emperor protects
@donteros
@donteros Ай бұрын
12:05 Fun fact: This is the exact same Ork from the Krieg vs Orkz kill teams trailer. He is even doing the exact same grab kill with his claw.
@kingskelett6265
@kingskelett6265 Ай бұрын
To give a tidbit of lore to add to the decentralisation of the Imperial Armed Forces: Most Guard regiments are of a very specific type, Infantry, Artillery, or Armored (aka tanks). These regiments have only sparse if any of the other's primary units. An infantry regiment may have some light artillery as support guns or an armored regiment has some mobile infantry. This is so that, should a singular regiment turn traitor, it can be easily countered. Crush the infantry with tanks, blow the tanks up with artillery, overwhelm the defenseless artillery up close with bodies, that sort of thing. There are some exceptions, the ones I remember are Armageddon (having a lot of infantry in armored transports) and Krieg (having a lot more guns per regiment, also having in general just bigger regiments) and with both i would say it is because of their assured loyalty. Armageddon is a massive war zone that is still somehow being held, the guardsmen there are not going to break, afterall they have managed to make it this far without doing so on a larger scale. And Krieg... do I need to justify Krieg? They are the kind to only consider retreating from an assault after days of endless, fruitless attacks and subsequently being hammered by orbital bombardments and Khornate beserker drops.
@b.ShotMxtivation
@b.ShotMxtivation Ай бұрын
I’m loving these, not even gonna lie
@grouplelakibersekutu
@grouplelakibersekutu Ай бұрын
I'm not sure if this is true but I'm pretty sure Lasguns are solar powered. The packs they use can be charged with solar energy making them extremely reliable. Yeah they wouldn't have artillery but they'd still have lasguns to fight
@tomwithatophat6457
@tomwithatophat6457 Ай бұрын
Yup lasgun more specifically their cartridges can be powered by a solar panel station or whatever station that can provide it power, hell you can get a charge for a shot or two by putting it in a fire but I will make it unstable and could blow up the lasgun
@avlaenamnell6994
@avlaenamnell6994 Ай бұрын
they can but it takes time, im guessing they didnt have the time? they seemed to be basicaly routed.
@magni5648
@magni5648 Ай бұрын
They outright adress it in the story - their Lasgun powerpacks are on average worn down so much from overuse that they're starting to fall apart.
@metallixro
@metallixro Ай бұрын
This series is a huge step up in quality for 40K content. Not so much as animation quality, that is still imo subpar of what can be done, but the directing, the dialogue, the voice acting, the action presentation, all are really good!
@mivapusa
@mivapusa Ай бұрын
Was there ever given a reason the Valkyries didn't use their lascannons?
@Counterpoints
@Counterpoints Ай бұрын
@@mivapusa there’s only one Valkyrie? So for what?
@Knightstruth
@Knightstruth Ай бұрын
Cool episode. Loved seeing the Aeronautica Imperialis in action! Makes me want to get a Lightning fighter or two for the tabletop game. Kasrkin are cool though I would have preferred Scions. Neat seeing a Commissar with a heart. I do get tired sometimes about how it feels like the moral of every episode is "Look how much the Imperium sucks. Look how worthless all these brave people are in the grand scheme of things." Like, I get it, that's how it is but still it would be nice for something a lil different.
@aaroncarter4019
@aaroncarter4019 Ай бұрын
@@Knightstruth The first episode, arguably the weakest so far, was a boiler plate episode about how cool space marines are. Questioned loyalties, then coming together to win glory and even a noble sacrifice before blowing away all the enemies. Action packed heroic story etc. The fun and whole point of the Imperium is how much it sucks and how wasteful it is with human life. That's been what makes it interesting since the days of Rogue Trader. It's nice to have these rare stories that aren't just about how cool and noble the sacrifices of its fighters are.
@Knightstruth
@Knightstruth Ай бұрын
@@aaroncarter4019 Okay but that's the moral of literally EVERY episode of everything. We can diverge from that theme once in a while and be okay.
@myrealname9656
@myrealname9656 Ай бұрын
This story shows why too much bureaucracy is bad.
@DtWolfwood
@DtWolfwood Ай бұрын
So far this series has been fantastic in depicting the grim dark of wh40k. 👍
@ryuhanja3415
@ryuhanja3415 Ай бұрын
can I just say this episode was perfect finally showing how horrifying it is to be a guardsmen in this universe but also how badass and stalwart they are in the face of the insane odds, not to mention how honestly sad it is, how your life is less important than the ammo that runs your gun.
@paul-antonywhatshisface3954
@paul-antonywhatshisface3954 Ай бұрын
Great breakdown. Gtta say though i hate how lasguns have shifted from solid beams, to blaster style laser bullets
@jays4057
@jays4057 Ай бұрын
Good breakdown, I always learn something from these videos, and thankfully no ideological rant at the end!
@2shae475
@2shae475 Ай бұрын
The conclusion was wrong though.
@manuelsilva8528
@manuelsilva8528 Ай бұрын
Considering what was going on and what the orks enjoy. The defenders should try and politely ask (or violently demand) ammo from the orks, that way they could get a good scrap going for longer! The orks might just be more reasonable and practical than the monitorum.
@Lilith801-re9xl
@Lilith801-re9xl 6 күн бұрын
that would be heresy! to conspire with Xenos!
@dwyanecelestial7354
@dwyanecelestial7354 Ай бұрын
11:30 "That soldier's a freaking demo!" (Terraria grenade launcher ahh sound)
@DayDreamer10251
@DayDreamer10251 Ай бұрын
I am surprised that the Cadians managed to kill the Orks with their bayonets, seeing how their bayonets are fixed at the wrong place.
@scottjackson8771
@scottjackson8771 Ай бұрын
Also the thunderbolt had lascannons it could have fired those
@Counterpoints
@Counterpoints Ай бұрын
If lascannons can be blue it might have
@ombrepourpre7562
@ombrepourpre7562 Ай бұрын
And half of the turret AA were also lasecannon. They are directly plug to the city power grid. No reason for them to be silent. Just bad writing.
@josiadorthestrong1031
@josiadorthestrong1031 Ай бұрын
@@ombrepourpre7562you guys are desperate to hate things.
@tenjenk
@tenjenk Ай бұрын
@@ombrepourpre7562 it was laready mentioned the power cells are burning out from being recharged too often.
@danielc2701
@danielc2701 Ай бұрын
@@ombrepourpre7562 It was in the story that was edited out. They shot the flak cannons dry days ago.
@Rahh_Infa
@Rahh_Infa Ай бұрын
The planet broke before the guard did; literally gave me chills.
@wiaf8937
@wiaf8937 Ай бұрын
goosebumps. now THAT is an Inquisitor of my kind!
@Counterpoints
@Counterpoints Ай бұрын
@@wiaf8937 commissar but yes, he was very cool.
@wiaf8937
@wiaf8937 Ай бұрын
@@Counterpoints oh true. my bad. i got carried away by the massive balls on that dude. Thanks for correcting :)
@Vagolyk
@Vagolyk Ай бұрын
My head canon is that is not a running ceiling fan's shadow in the back but your shelf is glitching into the warp.
@jamespaguip5913
@jamespaguip5913 Ай бұрын
@Counterpoints40k there are different types of stormtroopers right? like for example warhawks, kasrkin, krieg grenadier, catachan devils, tempestus scions and inquisitorial stormtroopers.
@Counterpoints
@Counterpoints Ай бұрын
Harakoni Warhawks are a drop regiment like the Elysians, but besides that yes.
@blakestewart7533
@blakestewart7533 Ай бұрын
13:30 I love how this Kasrkin calls command out foe their bullshit. After the commisar mentions that they will be given cover fire their ascent, this guy says that they couldnt have given it on the way down. As the commisar points out, there was nothing to protect going down. Makes it seem like every single soldier that was sent down wasnt expected to make it back alive.
@Wirmilain
@Wirmilain Ай бұрын
10:16 DAMN! The first time I watched this episode, I thought the Commissar unloaded his bolter and gave the clip to the Sergeant because he no longer intended, according to his authority, to shoot Imperial soldiers. Now I understand - he gave his clip as part of the ammunition that was to be evacuated from this planet, since he decided to stay here.
@danielc2701
@danielc2701 Ай бұрын
It's not an evacuation, it's a tithe, i.e taxes. Someone above (aaroncarter I think it was) stated it very nicely when he said that the tithe was not collected because there is an evacuation, it's collected because the Administratum's timetable said that it was time to collect it. It would have happened ork or no ork. He gave his ammo away so that he is "not better than his men".
@Roamingfirebat
@Roamingfirebat Ай бұрын
I love this episode. Hope we get more similar content
@009dracko
@009dracko Ай бұрын
3:19-3:24 For the Emperor and the glory of man kind.
@amosmcneal
@amosmcneal Ай бұрын
i love me some orks!!!
@warrentalbot329
@warrentalbot329 Ай бұрын
Xenos loving heritic . I shall alert the inquisition and mechanicum at once . Its time for servitor school for you traitor. FOR THE EMPORER!!!
@Wirmilain
@Wirmilain Ай бұрын
Orcs love you too - you're delicious
@amosmcneal
@amosmcneal Ай бұрын
@@Wirmilain what?!
@JeanLucCaptain
@JeanLucCaptain Ай бұрын
Why the hell didn't the AA batteries on the ground not only NOT SHOOT but not even target the ork fighters????
@danielc2701
@danielc2701 Ай бұрын
It was in part of the video that got edited out. The commander said that they shot the flak cannons dry of ammo days ago when the squad leader complained that they could have helped.
@Chimera262
@Chimera262 Ай бұрын
odd lack of real dakka
@aguspuig6615
@aguspuig6615 Ай бұрын
Komandos, plus its the whole point of the episode, small conflict with little resources
@roegenhobby
@roegenhobby Ай бұрын
I am more interested in how all of the stories since ep1 that connect to each other and Pariah Nexus. All episodes so far are shown imperial forces leaving and start defending Terra(again) one front from Tyranids and other are Orks and Necron. The animations is good too seeing Guards in action not just be there and diea
@kinosaga21
@kinosaga21 Ай бұрын
that intro reminded me of an amazing audio drama from "avox in the void" channel called " Fangs out" it sencters on Thunderbolt pilots and its an amazing fan made Audiodrama; i suggest it to anyone interested.
@wiaf8937
@wiaf8937 Ай бұрын
i love me some flyboy drama and i love the vox in the void channel. have not yet seen it. thanks for making me aware of it. FOR DA EMPRAH!
@echothefurry164
@echothefurry164 Ай бұрын
i was thinking the same thing!
@aguspuig6615
@aguspuig6615 Ай бұрын
Oh yeah i remember that one, all his stuff is great
@loganstevens3559
@loganstevens3559 Ай бұрын
Can someone tell me what the clip is that he uses at the start of every video. The space marine grabbing and sending a fist through the head of one unlucky ork. It looks extremely well animated and I assumed it’s from a short movie or show of some sort. For almost a year I’ve wanted to know the answer to this
@Counterpoints
@Counterpoints Ай бұрын
@@loganstevens3559 Astartes 2 trailer
@Ognjen19
@Ognjen19 12 күн бұрын
Love how we Ignor the Herecy that is the second episode , glory to the Fandom.
@zaelgarviel9766
@zaelgarviel9766 6 күн бұрын
That commissar tried to respawn in warhammer fantasy
@mrpilkington9710
@mrpilkington9710 Ай бұрын
I thought it was kind of silly that the Guard didnt just open up with their lasguns since they don't need anything special to recharge the packs they can be recharged by a power bank setting them in the sun or tossing them into a campfire if need be
@avlaenamnell6994
@avlaenamnell6994 Ай бұрын
that still takes time, dosent help if they are empty "now"
@moodyowlproductions4287
@moodyowlproductions4287 Ай бұрын
If only old bale eye was in this episode...the orks would not even bother to attack the base at all if they knew he was there.....or maybe they would but be very hesitant about it
@yvaerosreaver9278
@yvaerosreaver9278 Ай бұрын
I do wish they made more than a couple ork models for this video, really easy to notice that most have the same teeth and face structure
@Titotacoman
@Titotacoman Ай бұрын
This was 100% my favorite episode so far and this comes from a space marine fan boy
@IlijaNenadović
@IlijaNenadović Ай бұрын
Thing about fighting for a cause is that the cause will always betray you. Those guardsmen are the real bullets If those guardsmen leave Imperium for Tau Empire or a non-chaos criminal group or even join ruinous powers, I wouldn't blame them.
@matthewhicks6089
@matthewhicks6089 Ай бұрын
The separation b/t the Imperial Navy & Imperial Army already existed pre Heresy. The Aeronatica left & joined the Imperial Navies' control post Heresy to prevent Combined Arms Units w/n the Imperial Army. Some units still come close.
@matthewhicks6089
@matthewhicks6089 Ай бұрын
Krieg & Tallaran come close, only missing Air, but having all 4 infantry configurations, armor/cav, & artillery.
@Average_Yandere
@Average_Yandere Ай бұрын
i just realized a lot of the sergeants anger and all that is probably because shes not a “full-blood” Cadian. she was raised on a ship, and her eyes arent purple. shes probably never even seen Cadia before it was destroyed.
@YOGI-kb9tg
@YOGI-kb9tg Ай бұрын
So an incorrect part the pilons were not holding the eye of terra. The great rift appeared after guillmans ressurection. The great rift was basically a gift to abaddon from the chaos gods. So the pons were not holding the eye of terra because they were inactive and only when they were activated it started closing the eye of terror.
@johndoeyedoe
@johndoeyedoe Ай бұрын
"Bastards". "Aren't we all". Not a question but the true state of the empire of man. Death and dying for a hopeless cause that only benifits someone else, far, far away.
@dzbanszczady4106
@dzbanszczady4106 Ай бұрын
and of course only the woman survived the transport
@spikmaster18
@spikmaster18 Ай бұрын
I find it weird thatt the Commisar used a Chainsword whereas the Sgt used a Power Sword. Shouldn't it be the opposite ?
@faizthefreethinker
@faizthefreethinker Ай бұрын
You're right
@Railgun600
@Railgun600 Ай бұрын
@@faizthefreethinkertrue but like how some started chapter or primarch prefers chain weapon instead of a power sword it’s up to preference of that said person looks like sgt prefers the power sword for fast kill and commissar prefers a thrilling blood spilled fights Edit: I didn’t mean to mention guhhhh
@spikmaster18
@spikmaster18 Ай бұрын
@Railgun600 Cmiiw, but usually Power Weapon often given to higher ranking personnel, especially officer/commisar
@Railgun600
@Railgun600 Ай бұрын
@@spikmaster18 yeah can't argue with that tbh power sword takes so long to be made that most of them are ancient relics of their own that it should have been the commissar to have it though prob still comes down to preference of that person also in my thoughts i think somehow or somewhere during the time of that sgt she prob was given the power sword from someone else And the commissar prob was given one but refused preferring a chainsword tbf the commissar was more dripier with the chainsword than with a power sword imo
@avlaenamnell6994
@avlaenamnell6994 Ай бұрын
not allways, plenty of commissars use chainswords and plenty of sgts use power swords, just depends on waht they was issued/personal preference.
@morelenmir
@morelenmir Ай бұрын
I think more than anything else, perhaps even more than the Custodian episode this one demonstrated the unimaginable size of the Imperium. They can afford to lose worlds to a clerical error or to purposefully destroy a thousand of them to offer the Tyranids burnt ground. No one will ever notice. There is so much raw material, both human and otherwise in an entire galaxy that war really could go on for hundreds of millennia, millions upon millions of years. Of course everything is artificial as well. GW need unending settings for customers to produce dioramas and conduct miniature wargames. Therefore all the countering influences that would actually prevent anything of the kind happening are minimized or ignored. Real wars are flashpoints, pivotal moments and self-limiting. There is no way to win in 40K, nothing to do but struggle and hope the final collapse comes during someone else's lifespan. Although... Perhaps that is more realistic than I thought!
@michaelgautreaux3168
@michaelgautreaux3168 Ай бұрын
Hint (from experience), grousing soldiers are a good thing. They get quiet @ the wrong time, it's bad, very bad. Been getting into this series. Refuse to watch the Custodes debacle. Many thanx, may U remain in the Emperor's light. 👍👍
@jamespaguip5913
@jamespaguip5913 Ай бұрын
Kasrkin are are considered stormtroopers too you know along side tempestus scions and inquisitorial stormtroopers.
@ForgottenHonor0
@ForgottenHonor0 Ай бұрын
Guilliman is gonna blow a gasket when he hears what the Administratum did to the excess ammo...
@TemplarX2
@TemplarX2 Ай бұрын
Orks fighter jets are the only Ork vehicle that look more elegant and less brutish than its human equivalent. I love looking at them. They look so human for some reason.
@GenJuhru
@GenJuhru Ай бұрын
Warbikes as well.
@kaiserexe998
@kaiserexe998 Ай бұрын
Is it me or does the Orc fighter looks like Mig-15s, i mean the wing shape, nose air intake, and the vertical stabilizer on the tail and all
@Usammityduzntafraidofanythin
@Usammityduzntafraidofanythin Ай бұрын
I've invented a new faction of the Imperium. It's called "Yet Another Imperial Sub-Faction" and they're composed of super assassin space men. Because there's already like 50 sub-factions of the imperium, and everyone else gets at most... like 5? :P
@James-kh6iy
@James-kh6iy Ай бұрын
That is the reason why so many people turns to Chaos
@Tinyuvm
@Tinyuvm Ай бұрын
I wish to see more animations with Ork, they are really scary when not goofing around 😂
@richardjuarez3940
@richardjuarez3940 Ай бұрын
What is the video to your intro??? It’s 💪🏼💪🏼💪🏼💪🏼
@Counterpoints
@Counterpoints Ай бұрын
Astartes 2 trailer
@pistol0grip0pump
@pistol0grip0pump 6 күн бұрын
"Interesting" How not only are they using a lot of the same models but even some of the same animations from the 2021 Killteam cinematic trailer. Like that Ork at 12:10 was doing the same animation in the same clothing at 0:28 in the Kill team trailer.
@aaron30569
@aaron30569 Ай бұрын
You got the ending wrong. GW put out an article breaking down the end. Pretty much due to clerical error tithes are still being collected and sent to a depo world but none are leaving said world. They destroyed the cargo because the planet cannot hold on anymore weight.
@Counterpoints
@Counterpoints Ай бұрын
@@aaron30569 grim derp
@dylan56789ful
@dylan56789ful Ай бұрын
The most fked part is that if they just said daka daka daka daka at the orks as they charged they wouldn't need ammo supplies
@StrateGems
@StrateGems Ай бұрын
Name one instance, when these Infantrymen complaints were not mostly just an accurate description of circumstances.^^
@TheGrandOracle
@TheGrandOracle Ай бұрын
Ammo empty? My brother in Christ YOU are the ammo
@thomasjacobs9889
@thomasjacobs9889 Ай бұрын
Great video! Love your content!
@kozaakza3705
@kozaakza3705 Ай бұрын
Where is the brief clip from your intro from? Where the space marine punches the 2 orks
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