Harvey Sliding Table and Router Table Install

I'm adding the final parts to my Harvey Table Saw System. Installing the slider and router attachments. The third and final video will be a discussion about the pros and cons of the system as a whole. The things I like, and the things I wish Harvey would have done. Let me know if you have questions.
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[@TheAyotteMan]

How’s the miter doing for you to stay in position when set for a 90 degree cut? Mine slips out of that angle fairly easy. It makes me think I’m missing a point of tension from a bolt, but I don’t know what I’m missing.

[@KeimpieceCarpentry]

I don't have an issue with it, it stays locked in

[@Flatlandflyer]

I agree with you regarding the terrible instructions! What are your thoughts about the overhead dust collection. Or the dust collection in general? Mine is awful on my Harvey.

[@KeimpieceCarpentry]

I rarely use the blade dust collector that comes with it. You can't really use it with the cross cut sled because you can't slide the piece back. It also doesn't collect "all" of the dust. The only time it makes sense is if you're cutting a lot of the same width pieces for example if you were making American flags and had to cut like 100 pieces that are 2 inches wide. Then it would be helpful but other than that, I don't use it. Idk if it's the design or just the nature of table saws. It seems like they put a lot of thought into the design but it is what it is. I normally keep the bar tube plugged to redirect all the suction to the bottom cabinet. I think the free floating over head dust collection solution may be better. I also saw a video where a guy modified his table saw dust collection to have a port that sits flush with the top of the table in front of where the blade is. Kinda where your belly would be standing in front of it because that's where all the dust gets thrown. You do a lot of cuts and you look down and your stomach is just blasted with dust. So he added an under the table port right there to capture some of that. Seems to make sense. I have not gotten around to it. The good news is Harvey includes the blade guard collector with the saw so it's not like you have to pay extra. But again, I rarely use it for my style of wood working and the projects I do.

[@Martin1519]

This table saw is so dam sexy, its taking everything i got to keep myself from saying yolo and spending every last dollar i have on one. just started a new woodshop business, and im trying to make some money before purchasing this thing, because all i have now is a cheap $70 craftsman Radial Arm Saw.

[@KeimpieceCarpentry]

I can tell you man it makes a big difference having this nice tools. It is a lot to spend though.

[@jeffolsen3228]

I have this same saw and I need a router table and trying to decide if I want the Harvey table saw wing router table or if I want a stand alone router table. Do you find that this set up gets in the way and you’re always moving the router table fence for table saw cuts? After using it woukd you have preferred a stand alone router table?

[@KeimpieceCarpentry]

Depends on the side of your shop. If you're in a small garage like me, I highly recommend the harvey wing attachment. I will sometimes have to remove the router fence to make room to slide the table saw fence but it's rare and easy to do. I recommend the harvey

[@jeffolsen3228]

@@KeimpieceCarpentry Thanks. My garage space is 28x30. I technically have enough space for a stand-alone router table but any space savings is great and makes room for other tools. A lot of people steer me away from the table saw wing router table but I just see a lot of advantages.

[@MrJauxT]

hi question for you. I am currently thinking of buying this complete setup and I noticed you had the 36in rip capacity version and I'm hoping you can tell me how much of a foot print this setup takes up in your garage? That's to include the slider and all. I am considering to go 52in but not sure if I will have the space or not. I"m currently using a 2 car garage space. Get back to me when you can, thanks.

[@KeimpieceCarpentry]

@@MrJauxT it’s 89 wide by 49 deep. Add another 12 inches for the extension arm of the slider

[@JoeyGaglioti]

Is the saw the 4hp? There are so many different model names I have no idea how to choose. I’m wondering if I can just use the 2hp as a hobbyist

[@MrJauxT]

@@JoeyGagliotiif you’re just using it sparingly, I would stick with the 2hp 120v model. Only problem is that it only has a rip capacity of 36 inches. They don’t make a 52 inch model with the 2hp motor

[@KeimpieceCarpentry]

@@JoeyGaglioti This is the 4HP yes. When I upgrade a tool I only do it once. I used my dads old craftsman 2HP table saw for many years, don't get me wrong it was a work horse, solid heavy cast iron top motor hanging out the back. Plenty of power. So when i decided to upgrade, I made sure it was the last tablesaw I'd ever need.

[@stanleygabel1590]

I know exactly what you are talking about. I had extra hardware and was not sure as to where it was to be used. However, I just happened to see the Exploded View and Parts List at the back of the manual and it did clear up some misconceptions.

[@KeimpieceCarpentry]

yea, it's just surprising that for such a nice tool, the intructions are lacking

[@JoeyGaglioti]

Man that’s a awesome setup

[@KeimpieceCarpentry]

thanks!

[@clintmalmquist4423]

I recently picked up the HW110TC-36PG, which came with the Big Eye fence (which is awesome), Harvey router setup with the JessEm lift like you. I agree with you on the instructions being practically useless. My question is will this slider replace a cross cut sled completely-seems like it would and wonder if you did the 5 cut test to ensure it is square? Great video!!

[@KeimpieceCarpentry]

Great question. I would say that was my hope, was that it would and I would no longer have to drag and lift my big cross cut sled up to the saw, for most cuts it does, especially angled cuts. But honestly, a cross cut sled has it's advantages. I find that when cutting small pieces off, like 1 inch off cuts, it gets dangerous because the little piece sits near the blade and I'm worried it's going to drift to the front and then BOOM explode in my face or shoot across the shop, which has happened. It's very annoying and slows down production because I need to stop the saw, or carefully knock the piece out of the way each time. But with a cross cut sled, the sled moves as well so the small piece of cut off gets carried forward away from the blade and you can safely grab it. Also, the slider its always in the way, you can't easily remove it. So find myself having to put it at 45 degrees and pull it all the way back to stand in front of it when using the table saw normally, but now that wedges me in between the saw and slider which doesn't make me feel safe. Yes I did the 4 cut test, it was pretty dang accurate out of the box. Again with cutting smaller pieces, a cross cut sled holds the piece for you, there's no friction between the work piece and cast iron so its easy and safe to hold a small piece in place with a pencil or something. But with the slider, the work piece is sliding across the cast iron towards the blade so the more downward pressure you put on it to hold it safely in place, the more friction you induce. so again cutting smaller repeat cuts sucks. I would say it really depends on the type of work you do. If you cut a lot of sheet goods, this may make more sense. There have been many times where i break out the smaller miter gauge that came with the saw and my old cross cut sled, but now I think i will build a new smaller cross cut because the grooves in my outfeed table no longer line up because I had to shift it over for dust collection re work. Hope this helps.

[@clintmalmquist4423]

Thanks for the quick response and insight on the slider vs cross cut sled. Your point on the small pieces by the blade is good, plus after I got my setup I noticed it takes considerably longer for the blade to completely stop spinning which makes it worse. I replaced a 25+ yr old 10” Delta contractor Table saw and having all this power really is impressive and a little stressful getting used to it.

[@KeimpieceCarpentry]

@@clintmalmquist4423 yea I'd start of with a nice sled and if you find a need to upgrade to a slider, then you can make that decision

[@ThomasCrawford-g6h]

How much

[@KeimpieceCarpentry]

how much what