Has Nic Martin been wasted on the Half Back Flank?

It seems that every time Nic Martin goes forward he kicks goals. Despite racking up career best numbers, is he being wasted on the half back flank or would he be better suited up forward?
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[@markwethereld8943]

Nick is an absolute GUN...!! Wasted down back and should immediately be placed back on the wing. Knows how to find the ball. I was at the pre season practice match. At ground level things are more difficult to see. Easy up high in the stands plus hind sight. He was clearly BOG that day too. 10/10

[@absolutelyessendon]

Wow. That is perfection

[@TonyMackky]

Overrated mate. Poor kick. Just listen to Kane Cornes review.

[@markwethereld8943]

@@TonyMackky what I saw that day pre season.. highly underrated. No Martin no Essendon as far as I'm concerned

[@Alby911]

@@TonyMackkyListen to Kane Kornes… you absolute twit 😂

[@johninguanti2051]

Exceptional talented player. Give him the license to go rove anywhere on the field. 9/10 ⚫️🔴⚫️

[@absolutelyessendon]

Thanks for voting

[@zwski396]

I think Nic takes very high risk kicks. When they don't pay off from the HF or wing, it's dissappointing but managable if we're set up correctly behind the ball. But when they don't work coming out of our D50, they are almost a certain goal for the opposition. Nick Daicos on halfback wasn't doing anything incredible, he was just simply chip kicking his way through the opposition and flying past for the handball recieved and getting the pies up the wing at the minimum. I think Martin's mind is incredibly attacking and we should let that shine across the wing or forward half.

[@zwski396]

8/10 because those turnovers from HB are costly. 10/10 if he were wing/hf. For now, 8.

[@absolutelyessendon]

Excellent points

[@npd6225]

Spot on

[@brucejensen3081]

Maybe as a defender he could defend a bit more. If he doesn't want to tackle, fair enough. He needs to harass a bit more though. Make the attacker go around him and slow transition or put some pressure on the kick. He doesn't kick floaters, maybe who he is trying to kick it to are too stagnant. Players shouldn't be standing still, they should at least be walking. Really they should be getting their rest from jogging, so they should be jogging. The movement should be into space, then the kicker can kick the ball out into that space and make the attacker run onto it. You don't want to put it onto the head of someone standing still. Obviously his kicking does need to improve, an outside player should kick with more efficiency, it should as his technique isn't poor. 7.5

[@absolutelyessendon]

Some really excellent points being made

[@owner-builder]

Give an eight. Is wasted on the backline play him on the wing is a better option.

[@davidketels3717]

He is a gun, no doubt. A wonderful pick up, great clubman, hard at it, a great accumulator of the ball. He’d be a 9.0 all day, but half of his kicks are tragically, shambolicly (sp?) bad. Is he getting an injection in his kicking foot before every game? Because of his grubbers, he’s slipped to an 8.5.

[@absolutelyessendon]

Yep that seems to be a common observation amongst the comments

[@matthewfinis6723]

7. Butchers 2 of 3 kicks

[@LsOzVision]

Certainly underutilised at Half Back. Keep punchin DT

[@absolutelyessendon]

Cheers for that!

[@richardboff6636]

7 if on HB 8 on wing hf

[@hugeiftrue4224]

Anthony Munkara was the other player drafted with Nic, I thinc

[@absolutelyessendon]

Someone else mentioned Fejo? Think Munkara was last year

[@Matthew_Scan]

9/10 for Martin wish we had 2 of him a very good forward too kicked 2 goals against Carlton when swung forward then Voss tagged him

[@Reactiverse22]

I’m not rating players anymore until the end of the season cause when I rated Langford a 10 he went missing after that

[@absolutelyessendon]

Ah so you’re to blame! Maybe go back an edit your comment with a 3/10. Let’s see if that works

[@Reactiverse22]

@@absolutelyessendongood idea lol

[@Reactiverse22]

@@absolutelyessendon ok I gave him a 3 let’s see what happens from here 😂😂

[@Leigh-nj6mt]

Good evening DT / Smokin Joe My view Nic should be on wing and pushing forward . Good call again boys 10/10 Cheers Lethal Leigh

[@absolutelyessendon]

Cheers Leigh. Tend to agree

[@ruivenkamp]

18th century cobbler 😂 🤣 smokin’ on fire

[@crunchygusset]

8 for the Jerry Seinfeld lookalike

[@ruivenkamp]

I was thinking Ray Romano from ‘Everybody loves Raymond’

[@mattcristino9804]

Catching up on your podcasts after returning from Bali. Agree with both your comments about Nic Martin. I think he is being wasted as a half back flanker. Wing or half forward flank would be more suited. Effort 7, Efficiency 6.5, Consistency 7, Wow factor 6.5 = Edge Facor 6.75

[@absolutelyessendon]

Welcome back

[@Mark-F-Hopper]

Nic gets an 8.5 from moi. I get the criticism……but c’mon! This kid has come from the clouds, one of the first picked, is flexible, highly skilled, gets leather poisoning most weeks and is in line for AA selection. Yeah….l get the criticism….but it’s more about the coaching than the player. This kid is a gun!

[@absolutelyessendon]

We hear you!

[@Capital.Bomber]

Nick is at least an 8. And we do have a problem on the wing ATM. With XD out. Nick played brilliantly there last year with Seymour Sam on the other side. Jake Kelly should only be a back man. That's what he does well. So put Nick back on the wing. He can run all day and the effect will be immediate. We have some other options for half back flank.. we need Nick to do the outside mid work.

[@absolutelyessendon]

Yep solid points

[@stuartjamesgemmell]

You have to put Nick back on the wing surely. He covers the wing and kicks goals at the same time. We’ve taken Sam D off the other bloody wing. If it’s not broken does fix it putting back on the wing for chrissake. No Xavier and we still didn’t put him back on the wing

[@absolutelyessendon]

Goals win games and he kicks goals. Makes sense

[@thomes7318]

Yes he has. I think Gresham has been wasted up the ground and in the middle too. He could kick 50 crumbing the ridiculous number of long pack marks that happen in the bombers forward line.

[@absolutelyessendon]

And your score out of 10?

[@thomes7318]

9. He has more passion than anyone else and gets so hyped.

[@jimmycastellano5316]

I'd give Martin an 8 based only on the basic stats. My question is if he gets 30 disposals and only 20 of them are effective and his direct opponent has 15 disposals and kicks 3 goals and has 5 goal assists is he really that damaging across half back given his tackle numbers are not sky high? Earlier this year I said he should play a role forward of centre. This is a guy who on debut had 27 possessions and kicked 5 goals against a quality Geelong team nuff said I reckon.

[@absolutelyessendon]

That seems to be the common view

[@thejoeboganexperience7146]

I think the Nic Martin to half back experiment is not his best position, yes he is accumulating stats at a high rate but the impact of them is underwhelming not to mention the reduced impact I think of mason redman goes unmentioned in the discussion. I think play Nic Martin on a wing and Jake Kelly goes back and everyone is in their natural position again.

[@absolutelyessendon]

The Redman trade off is a very interesting point

[@Matthew_Scan]

I played footy on the half backline are you saying its easy you half back flankers 😆

[@absolutelyessendon]

Very

[@antl986]

8

[@absolutelyessendon]

Cheers and thanks for voting

[@TheGunmanChannel]

I love this style of video guys. Deep or shallow.

[@absolutelyessendon]

And we’re guessing you’re not referring to the analysis

[@themaxpowerway]

Number one in the league for turnovers. 3/10

[@absolutelyessendon]

Ouch

[@jamesm3723]

10 out of 10 needs to play wing or half forward

[@absolutelyessendon]

Perfection!

[@airree1854]

Nic Martin is an absolute gun

[@absolutelyessendon]

And your score out of 10?

[@superniuean9000]

100

[@airree1854]

Definitely a 9 maybe a ten if his possessions were more effective

[@Troyski.G]

That seems to be an issue with a few of the boys, playing in positions that don't have as much value to the team. Trust the process, Brad is building diversity within the list. Martin is developing beautifully. While I agree with you legends that he is more valuable on a wing or half forward flank, the scope of his skill set is that he will play multiple positions based on the matchups on game day.

[@absolutelyessendon]

Fair comment. And your score out of 10?

[@Troyski.G]

@@absolutelyessendon Marto is a solid 8 no doubt about it

[@markwethereld8943]

We don't need 2 Nick Martins. He's the everywhere man anyway. Unbelievable the ground he covers 👍

[@morkusmorkus6040]

8/10 for Marto from me.

[@absolutelyessendon]

Cheers

[@JF-oz3mv]

West coast bypassed him so we snaffled out of the wafl in the summer after a trial training period. You are correct in saying wanganeen was also signed up. Ronald Frejo was the other player to trial as was Dylan Clarke. I think Martin going back has been good for his development as he was a one way runner and couldn’t defend/tackle. We need 2 x Nic Martin let’s be honest!

[@absolutelyessendon]

Cheers and thanks for filling in the blanks

[@kokmuncher6702]

Our forward line isn’t the problem, it’s how we enter our forward line

[@absolutelyessendon]

Very true, the kicking could be better

[@guyskillen]

seconded

[@noneofyourbuisness33]

disagree...our forward line is very much a problem over the past few weeks...dropped marks, easy shot misses, 20 goals 30 behinds

[@guyskillen]

@@noneofyourbuisness33 both of you are correct

[@morkusmorkus6040]

Hard disagee with OP.

[@davidrees7319]

Put him forward lads, stating the obvious goals win games. 7.75 (The late Ian Marsh wore No 37)

[@absolutelyessendon]

Thanks for that

[@ideaphile]

He is such a good player, if we play him back we'll miss him forward and if playing forward we'll miss him in the back half. A permanent mid-field role may be the answer. I'd like to see him in the starting four as he knows how to get hands on the ball.

[@absolutelyessendon]

Do you have a score out of 10?

[@ideaphile]

@@absolutelyessendon he knows how to get to where the ball is so ..... 8.

[@Dan262626]

To quote Confucius: “He who learns but does not think, is lost! He who thinks but does not learn is in great danger.” Thats how I feel about the Essendon coaching staffs decision to move Nic Martin to the half-back line.

[@absolutelyessendon]

Can’t go wrong with Connie

[@smallships]

“He who plays natural winger off half back is a silly billy” -Con Fucsias

[@berkvzn]

Martin was in All-Australian form last season until he was moved to half back. He's looked like a shell of himself since moving to half back, and its no coincidence we start looking more dangerous when he's moved to the wing/forward role. Look what happened on Anzac Day and against Carlton, Scott is ruining this kid, and I fear for the club's direction.

[@ruivenkamp]

Tried to find all listed Half-back NicKs… maybe some are not 100% half-backs, but seems like a decent hypothesis by Smokin’ Nic Martin Dons Nic Daicos Pies (previously) Nick Blakey Swans Nick Coffield Dogs Nic Newman Blues Nick Haynes Giants Nick Vlastuin Tigers

[@absolutelyessendon]

Crikey old Smokin’ might be on to something. Next he’ll be telling us the Earth is a globe shaped sphere

[@kokmuncher6702]

Nic martins clearly a half back. It’s the most important position in footy currently, you need your most dangerous player playing the quarter back role

[@absolutelyessendon]

Do you think Jye Menzie could play there and Martin in the forward line? Also please give us your vote out of 10 for Martin

[@fiddle18]

Every once in a while, I have a listen to these guys, and then I realise why i don't usually listen to them.

[@absolutelyessendon]

Ooh. We’re not worthy kind of vibe. How could we improve to win you over on a more regular basis. Read nursery rhymes out loud? Jog on

[@waltersblattero7688]

Nick Martin is a very solid 8 for me. Hey Guys can you give Dodoro a break, He is duty bound to pick the best possible player at the time. Unfortunately Hindsight is not available on Draft night

[@absolutelyessendon]

Ok. We promise to be nice

[@morkusmorkus6040]

Its usually pretty close between the draftees, and different clubs need different kinds of players, so there is no "best player at the time". Dodoro made the choice to choose so many duds that its almost impressive....almost.

[@waltersblattero7688]

@@morkusmorkus6040 so if there are "no best players at the time" how do you suppose they come up with Phantom draft positions.

[@stavio12]

@@waltersblattero7688 Dodoro will never be given a break from Essendon fans. How long has it been again since we had finals success? Enlighten me.

[@waltersblattero7688]

@@stavio12 So he is solely responsible for our non success. It couldn't possibly be developed, training, injuries and coaching. Why do we need quality staff if it's his fault. How about we give some credit to the great recruits we do have. Rosa wont be any better or worse that Dodoro, because you can't predict the future.

[@aussie_al]

Jeez boys, that sounded more like a roast. Id hate to think where we'd be without him. He deserves the tags of elite. Cant wait for 2MP appraisal. He would be tagged delete at this point. I give Marto an 8•5.

[@absolutelyessendon]

We did say he was in the running for an All Australian selection. That’s why we love the game. Full of opinions. So what’s your vote out of 10?

[@pottylad]

Yep 8 for me, agree though to get him up the ground. Also, let’s trade our draft picks for Smokey picks, we do better with them it would seem.

[@absolutelyessendon]

There might be something in that!