HASHINSHIN TALKS ABOUT CHAMPION SIMILARITIES, BRUISERS/MAGES/ADCS/SUPPORTERS

[@Persocom]

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[@shwoopi]

id rather probably die tbh

[@zen3490]

Yeah im gonna go with death

[@benni4451]

Same idk why this was recommended but i will just leave and not develop some tumors.

[@sponsoredbylidl2725]

Persocom I dont Think Hashinshin ever played Adc

[@danieltrusca2556]

What the actual fuck?

[@jairartis]

“Riot hates bruisers so much that they gave them unique and interesting kits” - Hashinshin

[@shwoopi]

yeah that didnt make any sense to me at all

[@xkaphar9421]

Thats either irony or he is talking about how they wont ever be on the meta?

[@feallike7880]

I think his point is that RIot just puts unique designs into the class because the class is so weak they don't need to worry about those unique ideas being OP.

[@hirenpatel2966]

Jair Artis h

[@SirGeforce]

They look at the present bruisers and hate them so much that they create something new every time to make it better but end up hating the new ones aswell, so they do it again and again.

[@pockit5107]

Jax: Get on top of someone. beat them to death. Darius: Get on top of someone. Beat them to death. Camille: Get on top of someone, TRAP THEM, then beat them to death. Olaf: Get on top of someone, pop ult to avoid incoming cc, then beat them to death.

[@Gkario]

Jax can trade no waveclear, Camille can trade if she hits a skillfull skillshot no waveclear, Darius can't trade has waveclear, Olaf can't trade has waveclear. Jax relies on using his E correctly and not get kitted for an all in, Camille relies on hitting her E,W aa reset with Q properly for an all in, Darius relies on his matchup/oppoment for an all in, Olaf relies on hitting a skillshot which has a long cast time to all in. They have different ways to all in someone, therefore more interesting than some shitty adcs that turn their brains off on the laning phase and rely on their supports to start a trade/all in.

[@pockit5107]

gkario Ezreal relies almost entirely on landing skillshots. He can easily poke but has poor waveclear. Lucian has a short range and is more cast-centric than all the other ADC's. Kalista requires an intense amount of micromanagement in order to utilize her movement properly. Draven has an entire mini game of catching axes with character movement in order to deal damage. All of those champions are more unique and way less homogeneous than those bruisers I listed.

[@SuIgInToUfAnAnImE]

I mean... adc is the weakest in terms of variety but even then it was really like, REALLY dumb to say that playing jhin is the same than playing kaisa

[@pockit5107]

Etsune Toraneko Or saying Azir is the same as Kayle. They're literally two different champions.

[@TheStorm]

Any melee champion: get on top of someone, literally.

[@mgoface7499]

"Adc is all the same because they rightclick" - Plays Jax

[@Lin-nc6he]

M'go Face you really wouldn't be saying that if you played jax for at LEAST 10 games competently.

[@snipplez8657]

Clearly doesn't play Jax

[@glev4187]

Ok so jax has an aa reset a gap closer and counter strike clearly only auto attacks

[@mgoface7499]

"Adc X has active abilties 1 2 3 and 4 clearly only auto attacks"

[@glev4187]

i didnt call his passive and his ult bcs they actually have to do with auto attacks like i would call caits q or anything that doesnt have to do with auto attacks if i was talking about adc's

[@towlie4029]

HE DIDNT EVEN UNDERSTAND THE DANCE REFERENCE.

[@trent3587]

TheNuggetThatCould it's the dog with the African guy right

[@matheustavares7957]

Trenty_ Brazilian boy*

[@towlie4029]

shut up wise guy.

[@ogsolmyr5322]

shitty meme reference. wow

[@Scklyic]

This video is the first time I've ever seen that dance emote, the way the dog moves makes it pretty apparent

[@tradtrad1000]

4:16 "Corki is ranged but squishy Jax when you break it down" - Hashinshin 2k18

[@timgabel6341]

EpilepticRabbit ....this dude has serious problems

[@ogletret]

I really like how they both share a stun and aa speed that increase during combat.

[@tradtrad1000]

Except Corki has no stun and no attack speed increase so...

[@ogletret]

Stay in school kid

[@shwoopi]

what goes through someones mind to actually say that

[@zealous404]

Next week on Hashinshin : Every champions are same actually, all of them deals damage upon AA like wtf Riot do something u trash company

[@MrDamojak]

BlueMoon01 haha

[@kazim1801]

Karthus is syndra on hard mode MY MAN!

[@rodrigokuszek]

kazim1801 that one is actually pretty true

[@oceanman7336]

kazim1801 how can one man ssy something so controversial yet so true

[@skadi2411]

They hated Jesus because he told them the truth

[@nitthecroller]

I could listen to this guy talking for hours.

[@pockit5107]

You need help.

[@rodrigokuszek]

Ikoter Killzor ....why

[@nitthecroller]

Rodrigo Just because I like hearing his opinion on things. I'm a listener.

[@marius451]

Ikoter Killzor same, i found hashinshin very interesting

[@redowanalamgir9495]

same hes meme gold

[@eknim]

some of the things he said i disagree on but hes right for the most part, especially on the reddit one lmao

[@Aporro1]

If you were going to say that u would get banned lol

[@TheGuto147]

Azir not unique?Ok Hashinshin, calm down.

[@michawielgus9827]

TheGuto147 i understood he didnt mean azir isn't unique but that azir is too hard and just autoattacks from range, overcomplicated but brings nothing to the game (soldiers just attack instead of him, amazing)

[@catfood4142]

well, to be honest, Azir is a mix of Orian+J4+Lee

[@uusikaytaja10]

Mingqi Wang that sounds pretty unique.

[@catfood4142]

cavalierplaying, Azir WEQ comb is just like J4 EQ, and even the ult.has similarity. yes the W part is unique but..I see shadow of Orian

[@angrykook1]

Azir is one of the most unique champion in the game. Ekko a tank??? What the actual fuck

[@SumThingFawful]

One of the few times I gotta disagree with everything. It's that extremely dumbed down logic, as if bruisers are a unique exception. Your one tier away from saying their the same because they have 4 abilites

[@SepulchureValen]

I agree with the adc statements. How are you supposed to outplay most adcs? Kill them before they kill you. Most adcs either have no skillshots or skillshots that are very easy to land. All they do is right click and unless you are jax you can't dodge that. Only urgot and corki are any different if you can even call them adcs at this point.

[@67tedward]

All adcs are the same though. Part of the reason I shyd away from adcs when I was starting the game was since they all felt the same to play. Even now with like 1k hours I only own 4 adcs because why would I ever need more? This is opposed to like 20 junglers and top laners, 15 mids, 15 supports.

[@bvzv]

Theres also Ezreal

[@tousawa808]

How are you supposed to outplay adcs? Really? How long have you been playing the game? I think it's obvious how to deal with it.

[@aive751]

Frozen heart, thornmail, randuin's omen. Sure, it's 3 items to counter an adc, but it still is more than nothing.

[@811chelseafc]

I like how when he compares Darius and Jax he says “yeah their kits maybe similar to the naked eye but there are nuanced differences” but doesn’t apply that logic to ADCs.

[@nachomanrandy]

Because adcs auto attack you, that's why.

[@811chelseafc]

Nachoman Randy every champion auto attacks. But tell me Lucian, Twitch, Miss Fortune, Xayah etc play the same

[@nachomanrandy]

@@811chelseafc Every champion autoattacks, yes. But there is no counterplay to getting auto attacked, and even less at range. Darius giving you trouble? Avoid his Q and E with either movespeed or dashes or kiting. Lee Sin? Same. Warwick? Same.. . etc, the point being, counterplay, either if they have the stats to kill you or not. Even mages have to land their skillshoots to kill you. Twitch, Lucian, Miss Fortune, Xayah? Hope they don't have the stats to kill you and thats it. Even if you avoid their skillshoots you are just reducing a fraction of their total damage. See my point?

[@811chelseafc]

Idk if you read my original post but I’m talking about gameplay. To say all ADCs play the same is just wrong. They have completely different styles and kits. And yes the counter play is to kill them before they kill you but the balance is for them to do damage they are able to be one shot by any champion with one damage item. Even some who build full tank. You step out of position for half a second and everyone has it down to muscle memory to jump on your ass. You’re by far the most reliant on a team member (your support) to succeed and you can easily lose games where you don’t make any mistakes early because of it. I remember once playing Twitch against a Draven and he was 6/0 before he killed me. 5 of those kills came from my Supp. Not to mention because you damage is sustained you have to survive the whole fight to do your job. As a tank if you get a good engage off and die tanking some important CDs you did your job. As a mage if you drop your entire burst on the enemy carry before you die you did your job. As an ADC you have to see out the whole fight being the priority target. Because if you die and the enemy AD is still alive that fights practically over.

[@nachomanrandy]

@@811chelseafc Can't you see the problem, then? Kill them before they kill you is just a gear check, there is skill and reliance to get there, sure, but at the end of the day is just a gear check a la "how much item level you need to have to kill this spank 'n tank boss". There is little to zero counterplay involved. And that means liltle to zero engagement both to you and your opponent. You can miss all skillshots and still reduce most if not all the hp of a tank in seconds. Yes, I know some kits are different, but the difference of those kits is ALMOST cosmetic, since most of them offer the same stats boost, or disengage or are at the end of the day are irrelevant skillshots wich you can miss without losing much.

[@TheRustyCopper]

As an ADC main, I kinda get what he's saying. The inherent problem with marksmen (commonly played in the adc/bottom role) is that they basically fill the same strategic niche, more or less: • safe laning: range and AD based autos allow you to safely farm in most cases; • objective securing: ranged autoattacks are on average the safest way to secure a drake, a tower, the baron or whatever; • tank killing: most of the marksmen pierce through tanks with their constant dps and they generally operate out of their reach. • lategame scaling: every marksman (yup, even MF and Lucian, even tho to a lesser extent) scale better than your average bruiser. Most of the uniquenesses of marksmen change only so slightly the way the champ is played - some rely on spell-weaving, some others rely on pure autoattacking, some do mixed damage some others do AoE etc. But that doesn't change their fundamental role in the game: securing objectives as fast as possible. Bruisers, on the other hand, play very differently from one another. Some bruisers are better at decimating the frontline but they are easily kited (Darius, new Aatrox, Nasus, Illaoi etc.), some others aim for the backline etc. But even with the same fundamental role you can have significantly different game experiences (both GP and Camille have easy access to the backline but they play out very differently).

[@bigwong-v6e]

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[@burnzy4947]

"All ranged champions have ranged attacks which means all there gonna do is ranged attack you". What if I say "all melee champs have melee attacks which mean all they're gonna to is melee attack you".

[@benchabot6886]

neither of those things are what he said

[@frostgodxeek]

losing with a pay to win skin OMEGALUL

[@eclipse2703]

lmfao

[@bjarneclaesen1801]

Nice maymay dude

[@michawielgus9827]

Rene is strong into Darius Lvl 3 gank Burnt ignite

[@ohinianahiuhki9088]

But it is still true. the Riven skin that's like an angel, can't quite remember the name of it, all animations and AA cancel are just way smoother and faster than other skins, and if you do not believe me go try it yourself, this skin used to be battle bunny Riven until the angel one came out, that's the smoothest skin to drop out combos right now, and I've tryed them all...

[@jahsuo4254]

Ohini Anahi Uhki dawnbringer riven?

[@nickp1676]

a broken clock is right twice a day. if you complain about every single champ / ability in the game you're going to be right on occasion.

[@navytashigi]

He was making sense with champion classes being extremely similar except for Azir being like other champions. I feel Azir, Aurelion Sol and Taliyah the most unique mages in he game.

[@zivior1090]

navytashigi he agreed with taliah and sol

[@SuIgInToUfAnAnImE]

mages is the class with most variety lol brusiers is just: get in range, kill.

[@jpetras16]

Lissandra's ability to ult herself too is pretty unique imo.

[@navytashigi]

Etsune Toraneko bruiesers usually do the same just in different ways amd while it holds true for most classes on them it's the most noticeable

[@patches2951]

Zoe having 2 dmg spells is pretty unique

[@SunnyMcvin]

apart from R, lux and morgana are same.

[@SunnyMcvin]

If you look at it in depth then no champion is going to be same. What I meant was the idea behind the abilities. a root, a shield and an aoe ability.

[@ABcmaSter_]

Chocolate Milk? Morg Q is also larger

[@michawielgus9827]

Chocolate Milk? It doesn't matter if morgs Q lasts longer, its the same

[@SuIgInToUfAnAnImE]

Well fck we can just have 1 snare per game

[@DraphEnjoyer]

They're both mongoloid e girl champs, yes.

[@Ventus277]

"Look at all the champions , all have 4 abilities , they are all the same omg lul" Edit: I like potatos

[@longjumpingbread8799]

u lose 10 iq when u listen to hash

[@creaketh]

Some champs like Riven have more than 4 :)

[@petkofuchalski9809]

um, jayce has 8 :D

[@rodrigokuszek]

Kyon Smith I felt that

[@rodrigokuszek]

Judge my channel pls Aatrox is Riven

[@adailtonneto1767]

i like how bruiser/tank mains complains about adc favoritism and adc mains complains about bruisers/tank favoritism

[@-Sanctuary-]

I don't think i've agreed with something so much in all my life.

[@causticenforcer8792]

Corki is range but squishy Jax?!?!??? Apart from doing magic damage with autos how are they even remotely similar

[@608midshipcool]

CausticEnforcer Triforce, AoE Displacement/Stun, Three Hit Ultimate, Insane Engage and Burst + Wins longterm fights, No disengage after engage, Powerspike at sheen/ult

[@elizamechbathory2466]

@@608midshipcool umm item builds have nothing to do with this discussion, neither douse the power scaling of the character, the discussion was about the fundamental design of the champs

[@pneumonoultramicroscopicsi4065]

Maybe that's why skt sucks now, because faker doesn't use skins.

[@kingcrimson4313]

this must be a joke or ill snap my own neck

[@KneeCaps]

Aurelion sol might be the dumbest in shin's opinion, but he has had the number 1 winrate mid lane this entire season. Mostly because one tricks play him but still.

[@glev4187]

Imagine how that one person who asked the question feels like

[@kirxee]

lmao

[@Dannyboyyay]

"Omg basically all champions are the same! They all do damage!" What the fk does he want? A champ that heals enemies?

[@williamlindroos2250]

Are you dense?

[@conor6802]

Oracle from Dota 2

[@Aero-nj2ww]

-Complains about how simple Ad carries are to play. -*Complains about how complicated other champions are to play.* Where do you draw the line?

[@ogletret]

This guys trollin.

[@comedycat132]

Syndra: hits you with an aoe, then a line nuke, and burst with your ult while you’re cc’d “Unique” Darius: hits you with a line nuke cc, then hits you with an aoe, then bursts with his ult. 🤔

[@vasto351]

true XD

[@CrystalSpirit7]

"Why is Riot having a vendetta against Karthus" 4 months later to this video Karthus is one of the best champions in the game

[@bardisbae8477]

“Brusiers are similar on paper but they play different” *proceeds to bitch about how they are similar on paper*

[@kaminari4812]

Hashinshin in a nutshell

[@icraftmybomb7911]

I don't play DOTA but the champions seem more unique.

[@nitthecroller]

You're correct about that. I played much less dota than league, but never once did the heroes there feel the same. Everyone is unique and interest, and have their own gimmick to them. Thats not the same in league. In league you got champion tiers, which means champion A is better than champion B at doing this thing, but champion B also has this other thing that they can do. So they're both useful, but it depends upon the situation. You wont see that in dota. Do you know how many champions have hook abilities? Blitz, thresh, pyke. Do you know how many dota heroes have hooks? Pudge. Only fkin one. Dota is more original than league with these kinda things.

[@DragonheartRyu]

This video has really opened my eyes to the high amount of champion similarities in the game. It shows how little Riot cares about making innovative champions. They would rather regurgitate the same concepts while branding them as new and exciting. I thought of some other broad mechanics that could use variety: Levels: All champions cap at 18. Changing this could make for unique power curves and scaling Gold generation: explore alternate currencies and interest gained Minions: Are really uniform across all lanes. They could use additional types with unique powers and weaknesses Autos' used by all champs making for a boring and predictable experience Also why must all players select a champion? If cared about diversity they would allow me to play as the gromp, the shopkeeper or a blue side caster minion. LoL is also uninspired with with huge similarities when compared to the rest of the industry, the main reason being that all LoL champions require a computer. Why should I have to use a keyboard and mouse to control every champion and view them all on a monitor? In this day and age I should be able to say "Alexa, ward blue" or "Alexa, blame jungler" and have it be done for me. I should be able to play on my phone, PS2, or NES that has been in my closet for the last 15 years. The same code is also used across all games, creating a stagnant experience. Lastly I should not have to connect to the internet in order to control every single champion. EVERY company is creating online games with other players, LoL doing this is so unoriginal and frankly lazy. Just because something is factually correct does not mean that complaining about it is justified.

[@Keurgui1]

Wtf is this LOL

[@kirxee]

I came back to listen to the truth of old wise man once again

[@KneeCaps]

I thought that the ivern was pretty unique :(

[@Arokhsteel]

Sure to someone who doesn’t play adc all you see is someone auto-attacking a person to death. First of all that’s the point of adc’s they auto-attack for consistent damage. It would be easy for me to say that all bruisers just jump onto someone, kill them, soak up some damage with their sustain and peace out but that’s only the bare bones DESCRIPTION of what a bruiser is meant to be. Some moderately tanky champs who going in to deal damage and then pop out. But the different champ you play influences how you do that. Irellia cares about getting her marks on the enemy, dashing between them to do damage and build her fervor, uses her e to set up marks and stuns, ults to set up more marks and force the enemy to fight on her terms, and to use her w to help mitigate her damage taken. Riven cares about comboing all of her abilities perfectly and outplaying her opponents to win her match ups. Kled is literally using your game knowledge to know when it’s time to back off and when it’s time to go in balls deep. On the opposite end we have adcs who at their core aa people to death but let’s look into it. Varus cares most about spreading his blight to as many people as possible and using either his e, q, or empowered q to pop them for big damage. his ultimate facilitates his need to spread blight to his enemies. And because of the somewhat large cooldowns he has he’s also looking to get the most bang for his buck on every spell so he’s looking to hit the most people who have that blight with his spells. If then turn to Jhin we have a different beast entirely. A adc who is limited in his shots and will only fire his gun a bit faster as he levels up but never reloads faster like graves. His whole deal is setting himself up for his final shot. So his whole kit is built in a way to help him get to that. His q that bounces four times and does more damage for each time it kills, an e which sets up traps to alert him if he’s being ganked or to set up a snare with his long range w. Then he has his ult to either pick off targets at range or to start a team fight with some moderate damage. No adc main would look at Varus and Jhin and say they play exactly the same. Just like no bruiser main would say Darius and Jax play exactly the same. Or no mid lane caster would say karthus and syndra play the same and so on. Do these champs and classes play in similar ways? Yes. It’s the nature of the fact that they are the same class that they play in similar ways but it doesn’t mean that just because all of a class does what they are conceptually designed to do doesn’t mean that they all play the same. To make the claim that they are means you either don’t understand the nature of the class in question or you just don’t like the class and/or champions in that class and just really want to complain about it.

[@Andre-vt4np]

No hashinshin praiser will read your comment because they are dumbed down by their ruler

[@johnathangalus281]

Mmm jhin, lucian, craven and xayah are about the only ones who require a decent amount of time on mechanical skill to master their kits.. Granted vayne is tettering on the edge there. The rest are just knowledge of positioning and or walking correctly. I do wish league had more variety on carries between melee and ranged like dota does for theirs but different philosophies there.

[@Andre-vt4np]

Johnathan Galus really? As far as I remembered Dota has the same variety as LoL like for example Drow ranger and Wind ranger they both only has positioning, drow ranger has a Q that you can just right click in order you "AA's" to be a Ult that only speeds up your auto attacks "PASSIVELY", Windranger on the other hand has a stun so she can auto attack more, has an ability that is like jax counterstrike that makes your "AA's" fast I mean seriously thats what ADC's are meant to be.

[@johnathangalus281]

Get Rekt yes but there are other carries other than in ranged such as slark, sven, wukong, troll warlord, lycan. Even their ranged carries have incredibly diverse skill sets I.e razor, terrorblade, arc warden and shadow fiend. Carries don't have to be incredibly linear but the way league is set up,it tends to make them linear

[@Andre-vt4np]

Dude we are talking about ADC's which is ranged auto attacking champs

[@pneumonoultramicroscopicsi4065]

imagine a 4v4 map with 3 bruisers and one jungler, a good game mode.

[@michawielgus9827]

Mimou Chiron but jungler cant gank, only farms jungle and objectives :p

[@ABcmaSter_]

Michał Wielgus hashin would love a jungler on his team that camped him

[@MattBG67]

I think years ago I heard something about the making of 4v4 map but they probably ditched it, they even deleted a unique mode with unique soundtracks like Dominion

[@alexdeskatas7463]

I've never seen someone hate a game so much but still play it.

[@KneeCaps]

I was with it till the poppy complaint. Don't stand next to a wall. Yes that's all you have to do, fight in the middle of the lane and you beat her. Even silvers know how to lane against poppy, walk out of her Q, until she completes her triforce, she can't use many abilities. The only combo she has is wall slam to Q. Once you take that away from her, she's no stronger than the average cc machine. In fact, just until a few patches ago, her ultimate was value brand rakan, it knocked up, but it made targets invince. Like why? Also, her wall slam is notorious for sliding past the wall and slamming into the wall but granting no stun. I don't even think she's considered B tier in mobalytics' standards, that being said she is simple to play and has alot of skins you can choose from, but that's about it. And also the buffs they've granted to her buckle length have allowed her to see some mid game play.

[@KneeCaps]

Also the fact he complained about poppy while playing Darius and then banned the guy in the stream that pointed out how oppressive Darius is, is pretty cheesy. Who complains about poppy when they play Darius?

[@KneeCaps]

I do agree about kaisa though. There's not much counterplay. Forums says to "stand next to minions to avoid being destroyed by her auto rockets." She still gets healed to full health and 3-4 shots you and is probably next to vayne in being the most elusive adc.

[@cole9014]

@@KneeCaps bro how many comments are you going to leave

[@AlFasGD]

Bruisers: Assasins + Tanks combined Marksmen: Even if you're Faker you're still dying to my skill-less damage output

[@MIXMASTER6991]

Good assassin > Good adc

[@rodrigokuszek]

So you are saying Bruisers are different and that Adcs are ALL the same? Alright: >Kalista: a lot of micromanagment on her kiting and she has an initiation ultimate that binds to her ally. Also, her passive that DOESN'T allow her to cancel AA, so perfection in cs is crucial on her. She has a "spear pull" system that NO adc has (unless Xayah). >Draven: An entire mini game based gameplay by catching his axes and a global ultimate that literally 3 other ADCS in the entire game have (Ashe, Ezreal and Jinx) >Kindred: they have an unique passive than nobody else in the game has, by stacking % damage on their w and e and by gaining more at.speed after casting their q. An UNIQUE ultimate that it is one of the most difficult ultimates to correctly use in the entire game (matching Bard's ult). Unique and beautiful design. >Jhin: I don't need to say how fucking unique and flamboyant was this character when he was introduced. So unique and innovative. 4 shots, AD stacks for AD, attack speed stacks for AD, he is a moster on damage and HIS ULTIMATE? So freaking cool. But I that is not innovative as Camille's ult (which is almost the fucking same ult that Fiora has) >Kaisa: pretty much the only ADC without even a fucking slow. Meaning that you need to be VERY careful trying to handling her, even her ult needs to be used wisely. A stealth that only 3 other ADCS in the game have (Vayne, Twitch and Teemo) but only if you get enough A.S. and she is the fucking daughter of Kassadin!! >Quinn: a bruiser/adc!? NICE! Unique ultimate that allows her to roam like a motherfucker and a "vision ability", which the other adcs that have this are Ashe and Teemo. >Teemo: yes, even this little shit has unique capabilties, being the only champion left in the game that is able to be played in EVERY role (with Kayle). Stealth, mov. Speed buff, you can go AP, AD, tank, this little bastard can go anywhere and yes..he is an ADC, not a Mage. And his ultimate is the ultimate warding ability lol What do bruisers do? Gets closer to you/pulls you down/Slows you down, smack you with AA, W/Q with AA reset and then executes and you see hell flashing in front of your eyes because of what you have witnessed. There, I just summarized Riven, Aatrox, Darius, Garen, Jax, Camille, Fiora, Rek Sai, Hecarim, Warwick, Olaf, Nasus, Pantheon, etc. I mean, come on man... There are 40 registered bruisers in the game and there are only 22 adcs..

[@rodrigokuszek]

Rosaura Pizarro I feel like you are my soulmate

[@rosaurapizarro8176]

Rodrigo I just fucking hate it when people compare adc's like kog to jhin and say they're the same, I just sit there looking at them as if they've suffered some brain damage as a child or have been through some trauma because they're literally NOTHING ALIKE, I only got into league because of jhin, he's my highest mastery point champ sitting at 500K rn while my second is thresh. It concerns me to see a "high" Elo player like hashinshin completely disregard the kit of a champ and Compare them ALL and saying their similar by their core concepts. Drives me nuts

[@rosaurapizarro8176]

Rodrigo same

[@warsmen7500]

I do agree that adc's aren't the same but how is camille's ult similar to fiora's

[@rosaurapizarro8176]

PerfectPower Not like adc's got shit into the ground the last patch so people only went 3 main adc's and started bringing swain and pyke botlane. Not like our items got completely reworked so some adc's were thrown in the gutter. Not like high Elo players decided to toss marksmen aside and people decided to follow their play styles and reasons as gospel. Not like hashinshin is being a dick and completely shitting on both ADC mains as well as the development team when he doesn't even look into the champs he's shitting on about.

[@Frogfish999]

“Bruisers are different but think about how similar they seem if you’re an idiot!” Oh hashinshin, so close to self-awareness. Just take one more step buddy, come on.

[@angrykook1]

Your argument towards Azir being the same champion as Kayle is the most dumb statement of 2018. It's not because you don't like playing the champion that you have to shit on him. Riot doesn't expect you to like every champion they make, sometimes they target a very niche proportion of their player and they did that perfectly with Azir.

[@catastrophucked]

Then you clearly don't know how to listen. Azir: has a slow which allows his soldiers to autoattack you from range. Kayle has a Q that allows her to autoattack you from range with her E. Kayle has a movement speed buff that allows her to get closer faster. Azir has a dash that allows him to get closer or escape, and essentially has the same utility since his dash can provide a shield, whereas Kayle's is a heal. They are both champions centered around kiting the shit out of their opponents and keeping them out of initiation range to fight back.

[@neotronextrem]

He was right tho. I disagree on a few bruisers being THAT different, although some are, but as an Azir main I can say. Azir is Kayle, but conditional. Just like Aatrox is Riven, but conditional. And thats what its all about. The extrasteps and the conditions. Making a champs kit conditional allows for more skillexpression and mechanical cheese, aswell as effectivity. Which is why I like playing Azir a lot. You can be much more effective than Kayle. Same with Yasuo for bruisers for example. The fact that he is conditional gives him more playpotential, same with Zed.

[@angrykook1]

His statement is that Azir feels like a remake of Kayle and that he's not interesting to play because he's too complex and doesn't add anything new to the game. Azir can hit multiple target with every ability / Longer range / Skillshot. All his ability have synergy with his W, which makes Q sometimes harder or easier to hit / Missing the skill puts Azir in a difficult position as he cannot use his soldiers to attack the target but can act as a zoning tool. Also, there is a clear counterplay to his E which is to stand between him and his soldier. He has the choice to E to reposition himself and Q to then redirect his soldier to a location or he can E Q to get really far away but this option removes his ability to deal damage from very far since Q will be on cooldown. And how the hell can you compare a heal with a shield, a speed boost with a dash, these are clearly different properties that are associated to champion to create differentiation between them. But the most inaccurate statement is to compare their ult. Azir ult can be flashed, it creates terrain, counters dash and create a very distinct gameplay experience that no other champion in the game can mimic. You cannot do anything against Kayle ult other than wait for it to go off. My main point is, look at how you counter each ability of these two very different champions, how do they even compare one to another. The whole fantasy of playing Azir is using Shurima Shuffle in the Mid game to set up some insane pick and then play more conservative in the Late game by sitting in the backline to kill your opponents from far away. The way you use your ultimate in the Late game is the very opposite way of how you were using it in the Mid game. The fantasy of Kayle is to use your ultimate at the right time on the right person to turn fights around by forcing the enemy team to change focus. The goal of these two champions, the property of their skill, the counterplay available for their opponents and the sense pleasure that you get for playing them is everything but similar. If you want to talk about similarities between champions, think of Morgana Q and Lux Q. The way these abilities plays out is exactly the same and the counterplay possible are the same as well, this is what I call similarities. The similarities between Azir and Kayle: Ranged mage with movement and defensive abilities, that's it. Also, if they were so similar, why would they not be playing in the same lane? My problem with Hashinshin is that he talks about stuff he doesn't event understand because he doesn't play the role. I respect his opinion on bruisers because he has a lot of experience with them but he knows nothing about mages as he just proved in this video. Ekko a tank? WTF!!! Thanks for commenting tho

[@angrykook1]

Necrom Like i explained to the comment above, their fantasy are very different and so is the sense pleasure that you get from playing them. Azir is always about choice with real consequences while Kayle has very few options in her kit. Look it up if you want my opinion on the matter. Azir mains too btw

[@rodrigokuszek]

Angrykook1 that is why Azir is pretty much one of the most unique characters ever designed, with Bard, Jhin, Kindred, Taliyah and Ekko pretty much

[@iakovos16]

The only kit that i personaly find quite interesting is zac's .I just feel like i can do alot of stuff with his q and ult plus his E is so much fun to use . Also he gets a derp voice when he is at minimum size so thats also an ++ for me XD

[@mort6578]

Jax is right click to the max

[@michawielgus9827]

Mr. Ethnic Cleansing pls pick jax on ranked and just right click. Send me result

[@mort6578]

Yea but its the same shit though. Just as jax needs his abilities, so do carries

[@randompie6793]

He's right though Passive : More attack speed when right clicking Q : Literally jump to right click W : Next right click does more damage E : blocks right clicks and stuns R : More damage every third right click (AND GETS TANKY SOMETIMES!) Then you got camille Passive : Shields you once in a while Q : Right click reset and another right click reset after a few seconds (THAT DOES TRUE DAMAGE!) W : Slow E: Dash to stun and then right click (sometimes Q) R : Trap em so you can right click em to death in a 1v1 (amazing) Their kits are fundementally similar but their PLAYSTYLES are fundementally different, just as (said bot marksmen) draven, ezreal and jhin have similarities (They AA OMG) However their builds aren't the same at all and are played very differently..

[@gasaiv2]

Michał Wielgus Pick an adc in ranked amd just right click

[@walteralbertolt]

I thouhgt the club was jax, yi, trynda and (old) aatrox...yi being the most braindamaged of the group

[@FatShady15]

w8... just the animation is quicker... its not that u attack quicker... on the regular skins u atack with W and u can start moving and doing other things while still being in the animation... the skin doesnt change the script that executes when darius does his W... pay to win skins are the ones that have bugs on them or have harder to see than regular skills...

[@cursedshadow]

Eloi Sherifi thing is, this skin gives u a visual cue of when u can start to move without mistakingly canceling ur W, since the animation is faster, u dont whiff the W as often, so in the end u end up always playing with a "faster" garanteed W, while on normal skin u might whiff halfway.

[@MEGASTRIX]

There's no winning the argument if you think about it. If it gives better visual cue then its pay to win because it helps(which imo doesnt really do much since skins don't change the speed of the animation) But if it doesn't then the enemy cant tell so is it still pay to win? Nothing in league is pay to win it just meta reliant tho but not close to pay to win at all.

[@cursedshadow]

Ultra Fox its pay to play easier id say. Some skins make it easier to last hit, coz the animation is more intuitive and smoother. For example zombie brand is easier to last hit than normal brand for me.

[@MEGASTRIX]

cursedshadow Mabye but honestly the game is too complex that a little visual change can really help. I doubt a gold player will become plat because of his skin haha. The only thing thats super close to a pay to win is buying champs but Rengar whose more expensive cant possibly beat a master yi one on one not to mention yi being more meta than rengo due to better itemization options.

[@cursedshadow]

Ultra Fox well if i was to climb as a certain champ, id use the skin that makes me cs or fight better, which increases my winning chances.

[@michawielgus9827]

Imo he should use the same logic he used to compare mages and adcs to compare bruisers. I find it kind of hypocrytic

[@Vegathron]

yeah hes one of those arrogant nerds who thinks they are smarter than everyone when in reality its the opposite.. hated them at school lol.

[@antevante4473]

Well he did use that logic by saying that on a fundemental level they're the same, he just shifted over to their playstyles being more different then for example kai'sa and lucian. Lets compare jax and darius. Darius: has to get in range for E(quite short tbh). Needs to stack up 5 hits to get a winning trade, trade with him in short bursts to counter him. THe people complaining about him just walk up to him in lane wich is LITERALLY the scenarios he's built for. Jax: can actually win short trades with counter strike usage. needs to stack a lot more and doesn't get a finishing move so to speak and thus plays a lot mor for farming than fighting in the early game. Now let's compare lucian and kai'sa Lucian: dashes in and gets his dash cooldown lowered by hitting them with hiss passive, can use W to get more movement speed while also getting incredibly slippery with passive resets. Kai'sa: Runs/ dashes in, gets an aa buff from her E wile also getting movement speed for it, hmm looks like they both get more ms and and aa more in the same thing, alright moving on. She has a dash on her ultimate wich positions her in the exact range forr aa:ing, much like lucian uses his E to keep in range for hiss aa:ing, wich is incredibly easy if you also use your W

[@sandortojzan5409]

Yeah, it's really mind blowing how he said: for an idiot, bruisers all seem the same, but they all have different playstyle and you get different gameplay experience with different bruiesers. And he pretends this doesn't apply to mages......like, really dude? Even if it seems like they are all about landing a skillshot and bursting people down, they still have they own unique mechanics, unique counterplay, and unique playstyle. Just think about how differently Ahri will play compared to Xerath, or better yet- think about how differently Kassadin play compared to Malzahar. He also said a lot of other mind blowing things here, like how Corki is a ranged Jax.....

[@DakotaHoll]

I could listen to Hashinshin all day.

[@fireemblemaddict128]

Bruisers: Go in really fast and does a bunch of damage and then runs. Jax: Jumps in, stuns, kills and jumps out. Camille: Tethers in, traps, kills and tethers out. Tryndamere: Spins in, slows, kills and spins out. Ekko: Jumps in, stuns, kills, and rewinds out. Lee Sin: Jumps in, kicks, kills, jumps out.

[@Devahanta]

Excuse me, but Ekko is an assassin. Though yeah, I was thinking on how bruisers also have a lot in common with their gameplay.

[@neotronextrem]

Yasuo: Jump in with conditional Engage, hit skillshot, engage again, poke, run away, hit skillshot again, engage, kill target, conditional disengage. Yasuo brings a lot to the table. Or Fiora. Engage, play around enemy Vitals, parry CC, disengage. Meanwhile most Adcs arent conditional and only have amplifiers or damage abilities.

[@Smirkingrin]

lol anyone wants to get out from a fight after killing their target, just because they have an engage doesn't mean they have an escape, the only one there who does is ekko cause it's his ultimate and his q is the engage but he isn't a bruiser since his iceborn gauntlet build got nerfed to oblivion, jax can't jump unless there's a ward or a minion and his jump doesn't reset, camille also has a huge cd on her dash and tryndamere probably will if he didn't one shot cuz he refunds cd on his spin with crits

[@Smirkingrin]

but I think I get you're just doing what he's doing and complaining about nothing to mock him lol

[@Devahanta]

While it is certainly true that Ekko's R is mostly used as a disengage (and I say mostly because I do know that some Ekko players [myself included] like to start a fight with the ludicrous amount of magic damage from his ult), I can't really agree that his Q is his engage. If anything his only other skill used to engage is his E which is mostly used in combination with his W.

[@ohinianahiuhki9088]

Holy fuck, the roast on the average player who stands in front of Darius and dies, was sooooo fucking good, I'm dying.

[@Grzesuav94]

Aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaand after his class impressions I lost all the respect for him... Differences between bruisers are same deal as any other class.

[@Grzesuav94]

True, of course. What pains me, is that he is talking about differences inside all these classes, lists same shit for bruisers and adc's ,but bruisers are unique and adcs aren't. Don't get me wrong, I agree with a lot he says, but this time he just spewers salt, not truth.

[@Grzesuav94]

Exactly! Choose right things and you can mold what you say to any point you wanna make. He did just that, hence my disaprooval.

[@mgoface7499]

you forget to mention that FUCK RIOT NEW DEVS SHOULD ALL DIE AND BURN IN THE AFTERLIFE

[@michawielgus9827]

SupStePer 123 they point arent stats or abilities but playstyle. Even if they have similar kits darius plays around stacking his passive and landing Q. Illaoi needs to hit her E and have tentacles. This is different and interesting. In comparison to adcs and mages, everyone marksman just autoattacks and most of mages lands cc and burst enemy down

[@michawielgus9827]

Sry for mistakes, its rly late

[@based_pepe2342]

“I like Galio” yep my day has been made

[@NurseAkali]

Well, Draven auto attacks people, but he has to move in order to do dmg unless he is 20/0 against squishy champs.

[@TheRealSuperman69]

HASHINSHIN CRIES ABOUT CHAMPION SIMILARITIES, BRUISERS/MAGES/ADCS/SUPPORTERS this is how the tilte should be

[@pocketmonstersfan123]

The shit he complains about and how he structures the arguements is so weak, over-exaggerated, and - at times - fallacious honestly how is he in any elo above silver?

[@krenny533]

pocketmonstersfan123 hes speaking facts. So you just gotta deal wit it

[@gasaiv2]

He is above silver cause he only plays what's op and easy and then yells at anything that finally shuts him down after he collected 4k gold by killing the enemy several times. Very sad just gotta wait till he quits playing that "Boring 0 fun game" that he plays daily for way to many hours.

[@608midshipcool]

He's in master playing meta champions like everyone else in master.

[@antevante4473]

@@608midshipcool I wouldn't really call hecarim top and kled really meta

[@carefulman3673]

He's still masters

[@davidcsaki875]

Most champions have a damaging spell, an escape/defensive spell and a cc spell. So with Hashinshin's logic you can say that more than half of the champs are the same.

[@primeelement1138]

Honestly at this point just hire hashinshin to be head of riot's balance team.

[@DiablitoKawaii]

Its all about how YOU execute the skills to make ur own playstyle

[@mishal2401]

He starts talking about the way that Jax and Darius can seem similar if you boil their abilities down, but how their game-play styles are very different. But that same logic applies to other classes of champion. For example: Jhin trades in short bursts because of his low attackspeed, whereas Draven is always looking for an all in to cash out on his passive. Describing those champs as similar is just wrong even if they both use autos to do their damage. I think there are champions in the game that are cookie cutter or copies of each other(in a genuine way, not because you boiled them down to the point of absurdity), but it's not isolated to any class nor is any class excluded from that. This whole thing is just weird because he starts poking holes in his own theory, but doesn't come to the realization that he was simply wrong. He can like bruisers more than other classes for any reason he wants, but he can't claim that all other champs play the same; it's just not true.

[@malte4984]

"i am not an extravagant person twitch chat" plays god staff jax

[@chagrin5014]

Dude somebody tell that song in the back round at the start of the video

[@fish2349]

kzbin.info/www/bejne/p5-qkJRqntx-h80

[@tettric5370]

Kai'Sa counter: Be near minions, her Q is worthless Stand behind minions, her W is worthless Force a fight, she won't have her rageblade up if you go early Jax counters: Don't attack when he's in E ????

[@Evelolololol]

I love me some supertop talking about stuff he doesnt understand

[@eclipse2703]

OMEGALUL

[@magestic90]

Dargo He is wrong about pretty much everything he talked about in this 18 min video. Too much put into words.

[@eclipse2703]

your statement holds less value because you have no statement ? wut

[@eclipse2703]

hes right tho shinshin is just babbling about random shit

[@Evelolololol]

He seems to have no understading how game design works. Calling all mages with obvious differences equal is just plain stupid. Even tho Riot got problems with the game, they have pushed an agenda to differentiate all mages through small or sometimes even major reworks. Xerath plays a whole lot different than Orianna or Azir. He is overexaggerating that there are'nt enough differences either means he has no clue how other champs than his bruiser work or he is actually oblivious to their differences. Saying almost all briusers are different in playstyle is also obviously a lie, because if you take his take on mages, where literally champs that play different according to him play the same, you can make the argument about bruisers too, like Darius and Jax just AA people down and use their abilites in between, which is in the first play a dumb arguement to make, when you play a game where most champions have 4 abilities and autoattackes. Marksmen playing the same falls into the same logic as mages and bruisers. Obviously there are marksmen that play somewhat similar, but to say that Kai'sa play like Tristana is complete stupid. Both champions rely on completly different item paths and have completly different things they want and can do in the game, i.e. Tristana has a reset and relys on constant DPS, while Kai'sa goes AP and before she has like 3 items+, she relies on bursting people with her Q. They have different AA ranges, which makes Kai'sa siginificantly harder to play in late game compared to Trist or Cait. His take on support seems to be less exxaggerated than the rest, which seems to imply he doesnt play alot of bot lane. Saying that Rakan is bad design is just wrong. That champ has obvious weaknesses, that you can exploit. He puts it that way, that Rakan cc is almost unavoidable, that he can move literal screens with his combo, which is not true. Sooo maybe this is more of a statement than my last. TLDR is still that Hashinshin has no clue about game design and that he is just voicing his opinion pretty loud and sheepeople just believe it as true. I love him still tho, him raging is the best entertainment that you can get ouf of him

[@pastap21]

Syndra and lux are the same but bruisers are so unique and diverse when bruisers consist of aoe damage or zoneing, a cap closer (may it be a leap or a dash or a pull or even a slow) a stun/hard cc (either on the cap closer or aoe spell) and an aa reset. Every single champion class can be numbed down to fit your own views.

[@xJoFaen]

Why is he still playing? It obviously makes him unhappy

[@mephi4494]

Money

[@feyfiren]

it's almost like adc is about building items that make your auto attacks hit as hard as possible, W0W

[@konstakoivisto202]

Every champ is a copy of adc cuz they auto attack

[@skadi2411]

I was waiting for his opinion on cassiopeia and i wasn't disappointed

[@JZ-zy8jn]

He sounds like he hates the game yet still plays it.😅

[@claudioalmeidabezerrajunio7662]

Like tyler1 and a lot of people

[@roccolucente6152]

all bruisers: > Enhanced Auto (Jax, Camille, Renekton, Darius, Nasus, ect.) > Gap Closer (Jax leap, Darius pull, Camille leap, Irelia dash, Renekton dash, ect.) > AOE CC (Jax stun, Irelia stun, Olaf axe, Aatrox Q, ect.) > An ult that makes them harder to hurt, or hurts you more (Fiora, Jax, Irelia, Darius, Aatrox, Camille, Renekton, Nasus, Olaf, Illaoi, J4, Kled, Tryndamere LUL, Yorick, Yasuo, Vlad.) 🤔🤔🤔🤔🤔🤔🤔🤔🤔🤔🤔🤔🤔🤔🤔🤔🤔🤔🤔🤔🤔🤔🤔🤔🤔🤔🤔🤔🤔🤔🤔🤔 starting to sound similar don't you think?

[@jerobasangan3386]

About God-King... Hashinshin then: this skin is pay to win Hashinshin now: I hate this skin, it's so bugged

[@Oblivion0fate]

"The w animation is faster, it's pay to win!" Did he not just say 10 seconds beforehand he accidentally went Attack speed not tenacity for one of his runes?

[@YoshiplayerX]

WHY ARE YOUR TITLES SHOUTING AT ME??

[@Persocom]

S-sorry :c

[@sIightt]

Idk about the other stuff you said, but i 100% agree about morello era being best era for league of legends

[@tearsofshadow6560]

this guy should quit League....i think he is soo much frustrated with his life...

[@608midshipcool]

Tears of Shadow I wouldn't quit league in his situation. Guy makes a lot of money.

[@NoedigJK471]

Not so suddenly anyway. He could shift to other games gradually until he's satisfied enough to quit league into something better.

[@michawielgus9827]

I love u for uploading Hash ❤

[@Marcus-ut6fm]

I really dislike hashinshin. He complains way too much, it's almost deliberate tbh.

[@claudioalmeidabezerrajunio7662]

Same, A lot of my friends haved left the game about a lot of reasons but i still playing the game because is FUN GODDAMMIT. My friends is like Hashinshin, complains a lot and are waaaay pessimist. And the strangest part is that they keep irritating me to stop playing lol and start playing fortnite. they literally can not stay 5 minutes close to me without pointing why lol is bad and why fortine is better without me asking or saying anything

[@608midshipcool]

Perfectly respectable opinion. Just he doesn't complain that much and is only clipped when he does. Same as when Tyler1 rages.

[@idfk1608]

beard. exactly, when t1 screams on cam about whatever dumb shit bot lane he gets treated like a national hero, but when hash does it he gets retards in bronze like the two other people here talking and is completely ignored.

[@TheLeathal0ne]

"All adc's are the same" I can play any bruiser and have a different experience I can press q on camille and have an *empowered auto* I can press w on jax and have an *empowered auto* I can press w on darius and have an *empowered auto* I can play jayce and be an *empowered auto*

[@mephi4494]

since when jayce is a bruiser

[@andrei-cezarbleaje5519]

@@mephi4494 same with jax since when he is a bruiser ? jax is an skirmisher

[@ExiledSummoner]

what about yasuo?

[@thegreatkrimpus6139]

play darius

[@deathnote9906]

Hashinshin is really a interesting person i could even listen to him all day btw im a listener

[@nicholasbinsar1673]

18 minutes of truth

[@gasaiv2]

troll

[@pixelgaming2227]

I RATHER DIE THAT WATCHING HASHINSHIN VIDEO BE WILL DIE WITH NEGATIVITY.

[@deathnote9906]

Keep up the goodwork man

[@brady5794]

I love how he listed 4 bruisers that all have the same fucking empowered attack as an ability. Camille, Jax, Darius and Fiora all have an empowered attack that resets their AA, they also all have gap closers (besides Darius), they all have a slow (besides Jax) they all have some form of damage mitigation. Bruisers aren't an exception to the idea that all the champs in a class are similar.

[@eldritch0golem698]

I love how he goes with brusiers: Yeah if you are stupid (I'll take it as not used to these champs) they are really similar but their little nuance differences make for a different game experience. When before he went: Yeah ignore the different nuance mechanics of those champions they allright click people to death they all must be the same champ and give the same game experience.

[@Home-ro6cu]

I feel like he would sit alone in a cafeteria

[@elixxon]

That guy is just hilarious. He starts with good points, then starts ranting in a way that makes you question if he is actually a newbie in bronze. X,D

[@MEGASTRIX]

I want hashinshin to make a champ and see how fucking unique it is.

[@Insanityltself]

Same can be said about Jax tho when it comes to stat checks. -Decent base damage -HYBRID damage -Fairly spammable abilities. -Massive damage -lots of mobility -TANKY AF with ult And no matter what melee champ you play vs jax. He WILL outscale you because he's just a fat ball of stats.

[@jinigami1808]

legit everything he says is so true and its the most hilarious fucking thing ever

[@TheSorrowfulAngel]

God King Darius animation has its... quirks - but it is not faster. Just looks faster.

[@TinNovaKiin]

Tenshi Kanashisa I think it's just closer to the real cast time in the animation, so in a way it is pay to win... because classic skin Darius' W's animation is too slow and unintuitive, basically paying to have a real view on an ability's potential :)

[@TheSorrowfulAngel]

Eh, I jumped over the to the Darius reddit to read about this. They have a very... different perception. So really, it is hard to tell if there is any "p2w" in there. I think riot generally handles skins well - they just need a much bigger "bugfixing/QoL" department at some point(Ever play vs IBlitz ~.~?).

[@Observer29830]

Jax: A gap closer, a stun, an autoattack buff. Camille: A gap closer, a stun, an autoattack buff. Riven: A gapcloser, a stun, an autoattack buff (passive) Fiora: A gapcloser, a slow/stun, an autoattack buff. Aatrox before rework: A gapcloser/knockup, an autoattack buff. COMPLETELY DIFFERENT GAMEPLAY RIGHT THERE

[@jibbygibs25]

Make an ADC that rights click doesn't kill you but taunts you but kills you using his skills now that's a unique adc

[@Quintaner]

I feel like the only moderately unique ADCs are Lucian, Jhin, and Draven. Lucian mostly relies on his abilities and passive a lot more than other adcs, whereas draven is the ultimate autoattack champion, but actually requires you to move around not just for survival, but for damage. I don’t think that draven is really all that hard to play, but he’s one that is very punishing if you’re unable to perform basic mechanics. And then jhin has an ammunition system, but that’s really all that’s making him different, he still plays like an adc

[@movementjesus]

says hes not extravagant literally has a COLORFUL BLINKING MIC ON HIS DESK

[@primis_alpha647]

actually he's right about the balance things, like "ho ho there is counter play ! Riot-2018" but the champion design isnt that easy to balance, an adc based on auto attack dmg can't be just removed or something, or they just have to remove auto attacks, but u know that can't happen

[@masteryi3683]

Can't wait for him to say that yasuo is just a harder master yi I will lose my remaining brain cells

[@melikbaran329]

actually with yasuo they wanted a ionian swordsman with dashes. then they said "we already have an ionian swordsman with dashes" so they make yasuo a samurai kinda champ. sooo in the first idea yes yasuo was just another master yi :)

[@andrei-cezarbleaje5519]

i mean they are both skirmishers.

[@timinatr99]

Another great video

[@thewovenmantis6813]

Anyone else notice Pyke hooks Darius through the wall at 11:01, there’s a time slip, and then Pyke’s dead lmfao