Hatsan 95, Do This Test, Pellet to Bore Test: Not Good!

[@lonestar730]

Update for mine. I just tried this on mine. 5 and half inches in the pelet dropped loose all the way down the barrel. Wish I tried this 9 months ago. All good,lesson learned. New to spingers. All of your videos are great and informative. Next time I get a springer,i will apply things i have learned from you.

[@springpistonriflefeverlone9611]

Sorry to hear that, was the accuracy bad?

[@lonestar730]

@@springpistonriflefeverlone9611 tried twenty brands of pellets of different grains. It likes Ruger super pointed 17.1 gr of all things😆 it will do well sometimes,then be all over the place then do well again. Screws on mounts and stock are all fine,very cheap scope though. I will save for a good one someday.

[@StrokerNormH1]

I found your channel a few days ago and, after watching a few videos, subscribed. I’ve had my Hatsan Mod 95 for 3 years (bought used), and have never had a problem with it (mechanical or accuracy.) I own several other break barrels: UMAREX , GAMO, Benjamin & BEEMAN models. My Mod 95 has been a very hard hitting, reliable break barrel … I love it! I consistently get sub 1 inch, 10 shot groups at 21 yards with 14.3 CPHP’s (Bench rest & 3-9 variable AO scope). I’m sorry that you obviously got a bad one, but others I shoot with have also had good experiences with theirs.

[@springpistonriflefeverlone9611]

Thank you for your subscription and great comments 😃👍. I contacted Pyramyd Air yesterday through email, hopefully they will get back to me soon. I would definitely like to try another Hatsan 95 22. I did like how it functioned, build quality, wood stock, looks, but the minus bad barrel. I was warned by Michael Englesworth Stepping Stone not to buy the Hatsan. If Pyramyd Air takes care of the shipping, I will send for a new one. Hopefully the next one will be a good one🙂👍.

[@StrokerNormH1]

@@springpistonriflefeverlone9611 You are a welcome addition to KZbin’s Airgun Family! Thank you for all you do.

[@nickallen8333]

Yea man I just got a 95 and I couldn’t get it to group at all. I exchanged it for a new one and the new one is great shooting dime sized groups at 20 and it’s powerful. Over all I’m very happy with the 95 for the money.

[@springpistonriflefeverlone9611]

That is good to hear 🙂👍

[@springpistonriflefeverlone9611]

@@joeramirez7879 If it's a good one, it must be a good one? Not everybody can swing that big price tag of an HW95 Luxus right now. If I had the money I would buy every last HW rifle in all calibers. 🙂👍

[@nickallen8333]

@@joeramirez7879 Yes I have several HW rifles on my list and I definitely will be getting one when I have the extra cash. The hatsan was just to dip my toes in the air rifle world and see if it’s something I like enough to drop the money on. For the money it’s a fun rifle and it’s pretty powerful.

[@adamreisman9187]

Hatsan has great designs and they use great materials. What they DO NOT seem to do is Quality control. There seems to be no one at the end of the assembly line making sure defective units never leave the factory. You may have to buy 3 or 4 for each one you keep. In other words, YOU are quality control. It's a pain but I have put up with it because when you get a good one it's pretty great actually.

[@springpistonriflefeverlone9611]

It is a very solid, good looking rifle, just needs a good barrel 👍.

[@mackquack2929]

I have checked all of my guns, they all have a little variance as pushed through the bore, but that is not good. I have to use a long skewer to push mine through. Finding the right diameter pellet helps. I have one that I may try polishing to get rid of a tight spot.

[@springpistonriflefeverlone9611]

Good comments 👍. This one needs a new barrel.

[@brynybach7741]

My old man always used to say " buy cheap, buy twice ".

[@springpistonriflefeverlone9611]

I have plenty of good spring piston rifles, I just wanted to try the Hatsan 95. I think that the Hatsan 95 has lots of potential, depending on quality control at the factory 🏭. I will contact Pyramid Air today and see if they will take it back and do a pellet to bore test for me on a nother Hatsan 95. If they will not do a pellet to bore test, I will have them send me a new one, but I will tell them this one will go straight back to them again if the barrel is not good 🙂👍.

[@shanepitzer4126]

I pushed a few pellets through my 22 cal 125 Sniper Vortex QE. Findings are interesting. The bore seems uniform. With Crosman 14.3gr HP, the rifling only engraved the dome, and others engraved the dome and the skirt. With the JSB 18.13 gr, all pellets were engraved on the dome and the skirt. Maybe during firing, the air pressure is enough to expand the skirt into the rifling? I'm not sure. Both pellets shoot well in my 125, but the JSB shoots a bit better. The 125 QE only has 11" of rifles bore, the rest is all the muffler.

[@springpistonriflefeverlone9611]

Interesting 🤔🙂👍

[@airgunsofalaska]

Excellent video! Thanks for posting. I’ve got a piece of garbage Magfire Extreme I’m going to try this test on.

[@springpistonriflefeverlone9611]

You are welcome 🙂👍. I got a replacement from Pyramid Air. The barrel was scratched and the breach seal came destroyed. Pyramyd Air would not do any pellet to bore test for me, but provided plenty of lying 🤥. I did another pellet bore test, and the new rifle past, but barely. Now, this is one of my most accurate springers 🙂👍. Digging through a junk pile to find a diamond 💎, lol🙂👍.

[@airgunsofalaska]

@@springpistonriflefeverlone9611 I’ve also got a Hatsan Mod 95 and really struggled with it. It’s shooting quite well now but I don’t see myself ever buying another gun from that brand. Last night I discovered I couldn’t do the test like you did as the auto loading style breech prevents direct access to the breech end of the barrel.

[@springpistonriflefeverlone9611]

@@airgunsofalaska I actually like the Hatsan 95 quite a bit. The first one really put me off. The second one that came with a gouged breach seal and scratched barrel was not very impressive either. After putting in an after-market ballpoint pen 🖋️ "spring" totally transformed what was shooting good, to shooting great. The main problem with them (Hatsan) is quality control. I definitely believe I would look forward to purchasing a Hatsan 95 in 177. I like the idea of 25 caliber, and I had the 125 in 25 caliber, but I didn't like the idea of the price for the pellets, lol.

[@airgunsofalaska]

@@springpistonriflefeverlone9611 the gun looks really nice but I don’t care for the very unrefined shooting feel with the vibration and recoil. My 95 was $76 less expensive than my Diana 34 I bought the year earlier (‘15) and the Hatsan came with a scope. It’s likely not fair to compare them due to cost as the Diana is just some much smoother and easier to shoot. I’ve now discovered with three different break barrel guns over the past 19 years that powerful and less expensive equals difficult and unpleasant to shoot for me. My newest gun, the Magfire Extreme has been very disappointing.

[@brentboykin-hicks-tk1nq]

After struggling with accuracy with my 95 I did the pellet test and the pellet dropped from breech to muzzle freely with just the weight of the aluminum cleaning rod. I bought a replacement barrel from Hatsan which arrived with a heavily rusted bore. After a frustrating back and forth I got a refund. Now I'm searching for a good replacement barrel. It's a good rifle on the whole, but 4 inches at twenty yards doesn't cut it. any suggestions on where to look?

[@springpistonriflefeverlone9611]

@@brentboykin-hicks-tk1nq Sorry about the luck of the draw for you.😕 My Hatsan 95 22 caliber had a rusty boar also, lol. I scrubbed it really good and it turned out to be an accurate rifle. I really wish that Hatsan would get their act together. My guess would be to try another barrel from Hatsan USA or wherever you are located. If it has some rust in it, I would scrub it out with a brass brush and even polishing the barrel would help remove the rust. I would do your pellet to bore test first after a basic cleaning to make sure that it is a good barrel. I think to buy a Lothar Walther barrel, and then try to remove the old barrel out of the breach block is going to be very tough, unless you know how or you know someone who can work on it for you.

[@reborn_airhunter]

Very informative topic

[@shanepitzer4126]

Oh darn, that's disappointing. My 125 shoots well, and I haven't tried that test on the barrel. Maybe I should just to know.

[@springpistonriflefeverlone9611]

Yes it is. Wish I would have not wasted so many pellets and time on it. We will see how Pyramyd Air responds. If your 125 is shooting good, like a 1 inch or less 5 shot group at 20 yards it probably has a good barrel.

[@shanepitzer4126]

@@springpistonriflefeverlone9611 Yeah mine will shoot about an inch at 40 yards. I'm going to try to link a couple pics here, i.imgur.com/TC9tjHs.jpg i.imgur.com/JNi7w1c.jpg

[@springpistonriflefeverlone9611]

@@shanepitzer4126 I don't think you have to do the pellet to bore test, lol. My group size was bigger than that under 10 yards. That is why I did the pellet to bore test. Your rifle is a fine hunting machine 🙂👍.

[@charlesoutdoors2424]

Sorry your having to send it back. I've heard they do much better with their PCP's.

[@springpistonriflefeverlone9611]

I'm sorry too. Another one in the comments said that they had to send their's back also, but they got a good one back, shootin dime-sized groups at 20 yards.

[@aceman1126]

Oof. Not looking great... which sucks cause mine should be here tomorrow lol I'll comment back when I see what I end up with. Luckily I have 30 days to return it but i really don't want to. I wish they made this exact gun with an underlever. I was on the fence between this 95 and the dragonfly mk2 but heard nothing but horror stories about them breaking the pump linkage so I thought the 95 would be more durable, but if it's not accurate then nothing else matters

[@springpistonriflefeverlone9611]

First thing, do the pellet to bore test, if the pellet free falls, send it straight back.👍

[@aceman1126]

@@springpistonriflefeverlone9611 10-4. Definitely will check it out day one. If I cant get a decent one idk what to get lol might try trolling the used market for something I KNOW is made right. I have several other guns so I'm not hurting for another but I thought the hatsan had decent specs and looked like good overall quality for the money. Shame they can't simply check them before they ship them. Luckily, my avenger is a laser beam so I at least have that haha I know no springer will ever come close to that but if I can get something that can hold to small game hunting standards I'll be happy. The avenger is excellent but I'm unsure of how the long term durability will be with it and the pump. Springers may not be the most accurate or lightweight guns but one thing is sure... they're definitely durable

[@springpistonriflefeverlone9611]

@@aceman1126 I just hope you get a good one tomorrow. I'm not a big gas ram fan, but I have a few Gamo's that are very accurate. I think that the Gamo Swarm Maxxim Gen 3 is a winner 🏆. My only negative on the Gamo's is all the plastic. I much prefer a wood stock and all steel barrel and breach block.

[@LowkeyAirgunner]

Interesting test! Too tight doesn't sound hood either but this is VERY LOOSE

[@springpistonriflefeverlone9611]

Yes, free fall lose, lol 👍.

[@LowkeyAirgunner]

@@springpistonriflefeverlone9611 "Sounding hood". *Gang gang negligent discharge!* 🤣 Good*

[@simplemann556]

Yeah that doesn't look like its a good barrel. Thanks for sharing..

[@springpistonriflefeverlone9611]

You are welcome 🙂👍. We contacted Pyramid Air and are waiting for a response from them.

[@Relaxbadkneeadventures]

👍😉

[@A101stNCO]

As Gamo improves, Hatsan declines.

[@springpistonriflefeverlone9611]

Too bad. I like the build, the trigger and looks but needs a better barrel.

[@ohshoot444]

Dang that sucks!

[@springpistonriflefeverlone9611]

Yes it does. I will contact Pyramid Air tomorrow, hopefully they don't give me the runaround and try to get me to keep it. I would definitely still like to have one with a good barrel. If they will do a pellet to bore test for me, then I will say send another one, otherwise I don't feel like going through all of that again.

[@depiperfarm268]

That's crazy for sure

[@airgunspestingch.8426]

👋🏾sup brah! Oh that sucks! Hope PA will take care of you braddah👊🏾😎

[@springpistonriflefeverlone9611]

@@airgunspestingch.8426 I hope so. I really like the looks and solid build, but that barrel is horrible. I kind of thought with the lower FPS, that it could be a bad barrel. I don't know if Pyramid Air does pellet to bore test, but they need to. I would like a nother Hatsan 95 if they would do that test.👍

[@airgunspestingch.8426]

@@springpistonriflefeverlone9611 👋🏾sup brah! I have until April 1 before I can return my mod65. I’m done testing my gamo varmint and I am making a video of my findings. Next up is the mod 65 braddah👊🏾😎

[@tk1850]

hatsan dosnt care about w quality any more.

[@springpistonriflefeverlone9611]

They better or us airgunners are going to disqualify them. They have a chance to make it right, if not many of us will let everyone know.

[@philipyoung4459]

Moral of the story - stick to Weihrauch

[@springpistonriflefeverlone9611]

The only way people will know is by reviewing different air rifles. Some budget air rifles perform very well, like my Gamo Hornet Maxxim 22 that I did a video of last night 🙂👍. Lastly not all people can afford a high end spring piston rifle. BTW I sent this one back to Pyramyd Air to try this one more time. If it's a nother lemon 🍋, Pyramid Air and Hatsan will not look good.

[@springpistonriflefeverlone9611]

Update, my 2nd Hatsan 95 22 is a tack driver. Also I just purchased a 125, same thing a nother tack driver.😃👍

[@JB-mo8rs]

Dude, you already have the Cadillac of air rifles which is Weihrauch. My honest opinion is I would never buy an air rifle or firearm from a backwards, third world muslim crap hole such as Turkey. The quality in workmanship and materials and the resale value just isn’t there. One thing I learned is you’ll end up spending more money fixing or replacing an inexpensive item rather than just buying the top quality item.

[@springpistonriflefeverlone9611]

First off you're totally right, I do have some very high-quality HW rifles, but I have a disease. I haven't figure out exactly what to call it? Perhaps airgun-itis lol 😆. I am addicted to know how other rifles work and if they work well. 🙂👍

[@kurthenze2900]

​@@springpistonriflefeverlone9611 I've caught that disease too. It keeps doubling each year! There's no cure! So I guess, he who dies with the most guns wins! Lol!

[@springpistonriflefeverlone9611]

​@@kurthenze2900Long as we are right with God 🙏😃👍