Haunted House 3/4 Scale Virtual Pinball by ToyShock - Is it Worth $399

[@allenedwall3835]

I came across your channel by accident. Very interesting. I had no idea such a thing existed. BTW, the Centigrade 37 game you reference as part of the 12 games, I designed that game (I worked for both Gottlieb and Premier Technology). I also programmed "Bone Busters" and "Class of 1812", and worked on "Lights, Camera, Action". I also helped program Haunted House.

[@motnostaw2813]

Class of 1812 is a lot of fun. Still appreciated all these years later. :)

[@msk70kr]

good pinball games, too bad a company that refuses to honor the warranty or even respond to customer issues got the rights to put your tables on their POS machine. Been trying to contact them since september , no response

[@johnross9118]

I bought a real full sized class of 1812 and it is my fav!

[@overratedprogrammer]

You are a wealth of experience and stories

[@BenDunlop]

I grew up playing haunted house on Microsoft pinball on windows 98 😅loved it virtually, but never played the physical pinball...yet

[@papi3d]

Latency is a deal breaker for me...hope they fix it.

[@Dmdirmrjr33]

Not just latency . Look how slow the ball is moving

[@MegiddoTheImmaculate]

Yeah I don't know if the processor isn't up to snuff but this thing looks barely playable as is.

[@RabbitConfirmed]

was just thinking the same, that's so bad. like that's one of the most important thing for a pinball game. Heck even the iPad version of Williams Pinball is better than having to deal with latency issues..

[@BobMcGeeSlaps]

They're offering free PCB swaps to one without latency and coming out with a new version of the cab using the new hardware.

[@polariscat]

Looks like customized Pinball Arcade software. Would explain the latency. Don't hold your breath for an update :P

[@dontmesswiththeman]

I was kind of on the fence about picking one up, but thanks to your honest review I decided that my money would be better spent towards another real table.

[@zyxyuv1650]

If ETA PRIME didn't complain about stuff like the latency then I wouldn't watch this channel. He's honest and never became an affiliate link seller.

[@mrburns366]

I'm not sure if he's never posted an affiliate link but I wouldn't care if he did. He puts a lot of time into these videos and if he posted affiliate links I'd be fine with it.

[@zyxyuv1650]

@@mrburns366 He posts affiliate links on all the vids where possible. I meant he's not an affiliate link salesman. There's a lot of channels that are like that, they even ban commenters for hating on the products.

[@defconone1498]

That latency on bumpers is a game killer for me. Especially for pinball.

[@Vince084]

The delay killed it for me..... you can’t have that in pinball

[@figment1988]

Thankfully, ToyShock announced that those who bought these tables are able to order a revised PCB that fixes the lag, some high score issues and ensures 60 fps gameplay

[@Vince084]

figment1988 thanks I’ll probably wait it out and hopefully revised ones roll out

[@figment1988]

@@Vince084 if you get one now, you will be able to request for the revised PCB when they start becoming available sometime in July

[@TacticalPower88]

After watching this video I got inspired to open my laptop so that its flat, lay it down and fire up some mame pinball roms. Kinda random but I thought you should know lol.

[@ETAPRIME]

😂

[@jessragan6714]

That's actually a really good idea. I've got a Fujitsu tablet computer with a screen that can be flipped and folded over the keyboard... it seems like it work work really well for Visual Pinball. (Is that still supported?)

[@mrburns366]

I'm going to do the same with my cell phone and put my face REALLY close... ;) ;P

[@TacticalPower88]

@@mrburns366 A tablet would probably work alot better lol

[@LemonRush7777]

After you finish, put it sideways and play Shmups.

[@UnixGoldBoy]

If you’re interested in playing the original Gottlieb Haunted House pinball machine and live in North Carolina, there is a playable one at the Asheville Pinball Museum.

[@ETAPRIME]

And it’s only $15 for all you can play, I’m going again in February.

[@dereks3849]

The retrocade in Ashville is pretty good too.

[@RandomHajile-j7z]

Galloping Ghost Pinball has it too.

[@redperson11]

I would love to just see everything you have. You seem to have so many things i haven't even seen in stores, like this.

[@theoldar]

Mine is wrapped under the tree. I am looking forward to Christmas morning.

[@Zoyx]

Hope they come out with a Bally or Williams version. Also, hope they take care of the latency.

[@figment1988]

Arcade1Up is making the Bally tables as they have the license with Zen Pinball

[@kevsteele]

So, this appears to be a port of "The Pinball Arcade" by Farsight Studios. Since they lost the Williams/Bally license, I'm assuming the Gottlieb tables are all they still have a license for.

[@yvesnyfelerph.d.8297]

They still do have Sterns though...

[@figment1988]

That's what it is - a tweaked version of The Pinball Arcade, but with the alphanumeric (and electromechanical in the case of Big Shot and Jacks Open) Gottlieb games

[@Alexis40ar]

LOL the ball seems like it’s floating on air. They should have licensed Pinball FX 3 engine which is awesome.

[@baddoomguy1986]

Or used Visual Pinball X which is free and open source, told people to download tables, and told Farsight to piss off.

[@b.o.353]

Spot on review with the slow mo latency. Wish they had spent a little more on the CPU and got rid of the latency

[@WonkoTSane]

The latency is a factor of the display not the CPU. It is possible that it can be fixed with an update to the display. It is the same as playing your Xbox on a TV that is set to movie mode rather than game mode. Even with it set up correctly it is still not as responsive as a real machine though.

[@Joshn714]

Thank you for reveiwing this machine. I have a digital pincab in my house and always interested in what's going on in the digital pinball market. Black Hole is a very addicting table!

[@WickedGamerCollector]

Toy Shark is expensive toy virtual pinball, same here love to have virtual pinball some day. Great Video Review like always ETA Prime ! :D EDIT - 5:50 very important when playing these virtual pinball games. thanks for showing !

[@jefferywilliams8200]

I have the Black Hole cabinet and l love it plays well nice size for my Man Cave great buy for me.😊

[@uksewingmachineservice7030]

Looks brilliant mate nice one don 🤠🇬🇧👍👍👍

[@DaHaiZhu]

The Bezels are for your BEER!!! 🍻

[@loop5]

and the latency so you can take a zip in between sips

[@jayhunts8667]

Not bad looks fun and for the price can't go wrong

[@Diedonacagedworld]

Thats really cool for what you get. Ironically I would want a smaller one lol. I live in a camper. When there cheaper might keep one at a friend's house.

[@ozzie.l.6035]

Wow kool pinball machine,i like it..i wish I would have the space to have one of those..

[@spacecowboyfpv5511]

Can't wait to see V2 of this. V1 is clearly crappy but the idea is gold. FIX IT AND TAKE MY MONEY

[@ThomasGrillo]

Thanks for the demo. Looks pretty interesting.

[@FatNorthernBigot]

Digital pinball? New one on me! Looks great fun, though.

[@ChadWSmith]

I am not sure I've ever heard of a digital pinball machine before (other than just normal video games) - one set up like an actual pinball machine is pretty awesome. Now I want to dive into videos of people building their own using RPis or other SBC or PCs.

[@MannyDer]

I found VP a few months back. I ended up putting a 60" tv in portrait next to my main tv just for VP. I even made a controller out of wood and arcade buttons the same width as a normal table. There is a huge community of people into this. The best IMO is VP on the HTC VIVE. So cool to play a 20 ft pinball table

[@furrymessiah]

This looks an awful lot like a reskin of The Pinball Arcade, right down to the instructions mode and achievements. They have all 12 games in their DLC library as well.

[@ivandavidmacinas3257]

I believe they partnered up, as the FarSight Studios channel posted an ad for this machine.

[@IRWPD]

This is a cool idea for those who love pinball but don't have the space for a real one.

[@GforceMI1965]

I've been considering making one of these and slapping a PC inside for Pinball FX, could probably use an old Dell/HP Office PC.

[@AlexVandeBunte]

I'd love to follow ETA PRIME on a custom (or even pre-built) digital pinball build journey! I hope to have one in my home within the next five years. In the meantime, thank you for giving us a look at this off-the-shelf possibility!

[@GenGamesUniverse]

honestly I'd be tempted to get one, gut out everything (i.e. change the screens so that they're two monitor style screens as well as the buttons), slap custom decals on there and get a custom PC with Future Pinball on.

[@LCOmusic]

XTheVideoGamerGirlX same honestly. I have a DIY mini cabinet already, and a full size cabinet in the works, but I’m going to try to keep an eye out for sales on this because it would be a fantastic target for mods.

[@CementRoots]

not worth the time or the money.... start from scratch

[@joeyjojojunior4886]

Nothing beats a physical pinball machine.

[@sightingson18wheels]

Aww man.. Now I need a raise, or second job to buy this stuff! Will wait for the second run machines when they get the flipper issues worked out, or possibly make it upgradeable. Thank you once again for your wonderful review!

[@peachjackson3856]

Argh! That latency really is a dealbreaker. Kinda like THE biggest deal with pinball. So disappointed! I was totally about to start saving for one of these. Thanks so much for reviewing it in such great detail! 👍

[@thomashounsome7737]

Looks like a great little machine, I would happily pick one up but the latency is really a deal-breaker.

[@TXetc]

These are sweet. I’d like to do a Pokemon Pinball build maybe. Kinda bored of tinkering with the Arcade1Ups and want to do something new.

[@wetout]

I wish you'd make virtual pinball videos and how to set it up in Launch box, emulators, etc

[@teddym2808]

Man even when you had it at normal speed, I could "feel" the latency through the vid. I could never get used to that and makes it an 100% deal breaker at this stage.

[@charmainegoree766]

I’m just coming across this video now I hope they fix the lag that you were talking about because my machine is arriving today and the price jumped to $600

[@MrLloydFletcher]

I'd paint the bezel black. The gray color looks weird on it. Other than that, I want one!

[@GenGamesUniverse]

I'd personally put a custom bezel on there.

[@figment1988]

I know that a game Graphics Company is selling a custom bezel artwork that matches the motif of haunted house

[@manipulationstation2454]

Almost worth it for Black Home alone Haunted House is a great one also. Always loved Gottleib tables......Good Lord I'm getting old lol!

[@retrorewindllc9363]

Get sum of those plastic bed frame leg raisers to raise it. There like a big plastic block that's made for legs of beds to sit into to make taller, but would work great for this, comes in black plus can get em @ Walmart! Simple solution

[@ETAPRIME]

Awesome idea!!!! I’m gonna pick some up Tomorrow. Thank you that will work perfectly!

[@retrorewindllc9363]

@@ETAPRIME yea np! Hope they work good for u. I use them for about the same, really is a cheap decent solution to raise machines , I even used them to make a raised platform for the one ups!!

[@FiverFever]

Do you have any photos of how the display connects to the main board? I am trying to troubleshoot a unit on whicj the display does not turn on. Do you have any suggestions?

[@CantankerousDave]

Wow, Black Hole, I haven’t seen that table since I was little. I played tons of pinball in the early nineties, but not Gottlieb. Gilligan’s Island and Addams Family were more my jam.

[@melvinlovejones]

Very helpful video, thanks.

[@craigepeel4320]

how can a bigger monitor be added?

[@PDubsArcadeLoft]

Another Top Notch Review by ETA Prime! Well done as always good sir! For those who want to know MORE about this product including seeing some exclusive upcoming cabinet releases and improvements you may want to check out and join The Official Toy Shock Digital Pinball Fan Page on Facebook. Great community over there, well moderated! Toy Shock will be at CES next month as well (nudge nudge wink wink)! It is very difficult to cram a $5,000 Machine into a $400 Machine, for what it is, this Toy Pinball (it is definitely a TOY) is a lot of fun!

[@JosephTrezza]

Please mod this bad boy like you did the arcade 1 up! I need that follow along video to make it happen lol.

[@kyles8524]

Cool I own several real pinball machines one being black hole and the huge problem here is the balls move way slower than they should

[@SuperCacahuete93]

C'est trop genial ce flipper !

[@kepler240]

the flipper lag is the same on "pinball arcade" which I also returned because of this same issue.

[@Sydneyadventuretours]

Latency sucks ...thanks for the good review I’ll hold off till a better unit come’s along

[@000jimbojones000]

i build my 24" pinball out of used pc parts... 2 used monitors (40 Euros) a used core 2 quad pc for 20 Euros. Used PC 3in1 speaker system 5 Euros. a 120 GB ssd with windows and tables 20 Euros. Buttonset (8 Euros) + the wood and work... So you can build a better system like this for around 100 Euros if you make it DIY and use used parts. Also its fun to do so. good thing is the marque display changes when you use pinballx. and you can add tons of tables. Mine has around 400 now.

[@CementRoots]

yep this is true... I built a standard 40" for under $1000...

[@ADR69]

So is it basically a 24 inch monitor turned 90*? If there's a normal digital interface it may be replaceable to help with that border.

[@stephanietarkenton491]

Hello is there a way to get in touch with them. My machine needed a replacement plunger and Hall effect pbc

[@LucDesormeaux]

You're awesome at doing tutorials. I really hope that you'll do a tutorial to setup the virtual pinpall "emulator". Not an easy task to set it up properly. :)

[@superduty4556]

Can we get a game room tour? Apologies if you already did one.

[@octoman_games]

time to see mods!!!!

[@stevenwheat3621]

Give it alittle time. They will come..

[@davidcarper5411]

A monitor with a faster refresh rate would solve the latency issue ?

[@iamtheflu]

Honestly, I think the latency exists because of the lack of power in the CPU. It's unable to run the tables accurately enough to limit the latency. I'm still interested though. I would probably replace the computer and eventually the field display. I could do the recroom masters cabinet, but this seems like a little less effort. I'll look into it more.

[@KrisRatliff75]

Good morning ETA Prime. It looks like the machine is running the Pinball Arcade app. I have that on my 1st gen Pixel XL and have several games. I wonder if the interface can accept additional pins?

[@XavierP56]

Can the plunger be replaced if broken ? How hard ? Thanks.

[@EmergencyChannel]

Should have done a blackhole theme imo. I hope they can get a Williams license, would love to see Black Knight 2000 and Bride of Pinball, both are in my opinion the peak of pinball design and pinball machines started majorly declining after.

[@Yaoau]

That thicccc boarder kill this for me. No sure, I don't like it

[@travallen5481]

Would be cool to trim bezel and put a bigger screen on it.

[@ADR69]

Even a logo or border sticker could help immensely

[@Zogtee]

Yeah, I can't get past that giant bezel. Even some generic artwork there would have helped a lot.

[@Nephyness]

I agree. That bezel is just awful. I am surprised they didn't put any art on it.

[@ninjamaster3453]

Probably be OK with a 32". Those ain't expensive. Probably will be offered in future.

[@michaelturner4457]

This looks very much like Farsight Studio - Pinball Arcade I have on my computer. On the computer can't say I've noticed any latency though, with either the flippers, or the plunger controls.

[@frostyhighway9011]

I would like to see more of the Haunted House Board.

[@Colin_Ames]

I don’t think it’s too bad, considering the intended market. It wasn’t built for aficionados of real pinball machines, and wasn’t meant to compete with systems from companies like GRS, which are way more expensive. It’s a toy, and will be played by kids who have never played a real table. The price is a little high, but it will probably drop after Christmas.

[@malakaibrown94]

it looks like its using the pinball arcade versions of these tables now how can we hack it so we can have all the tables available for that version

[@scottishgamer7210]

It would be cool if they added a usb so you could download your pinball games

[@tim49013]

I’d love one but maybe a bit smaller like a table top one slimmer and easier to put away that would make me easier for me to own as space is an issue

[@southerndandy4910]

The state of that damn bezel.

[@90sBasketballBios]

To anyone who sees this in the comments, have a wonderful day & remember you are Awesome😊. Thanks for the video ETA!

[@chibang492]

I wish they would of made this based on the Black Hole cabinet with spinning black Hole backbox instead of Haunted House. Then I would of bought it. Never the less, it's a pretty cool concept. However, I dont need one of these because I have a decent collection of original real full sized pinball machines. There ain't nothin like the real thang baby.

[@TomMinnick]

Can it be modded? It looks like Farsight Studios maybe did the software/emulation? The font's, goals, etc, etc just seem like it.

[@modeljetjuggernaut4864]

Why does there seem like a lot of lag on gameplay. You mentioned the flippers but its choppy everywhere else. Or is my wifi connection slow..

[@tbx59]

I want to fast forward to like generation 4 of these things and have it right now.

[@KerryTheKid]

Anyway to add extra pinball games?

[@benlogan100]

I love the idea here, but ball physics need work.

[@jothain]

I was looking everything else that wasn't good, but then actually looked at the gameplay and oh dear god they really need to work with physics :D That's just absolutely horrible.

[@Singuy888]

I thought it's the video but does look like the ball is extremely floaty. Far cry vs vpx

[@greenprotag]

You should totally grab a cheap 1080p panel @32" or whatever will fit in that cabnet and do a bezel trim and a fresh plexy. You also said more systems... would love to see that. Is there a company that has remade the classic digital space cadet cabnet we use to play on windows?

[@DAVIDGREGORYKERR]

Would a UDOO RYZEN Bolt V1000 have worked better with no latency.

[@gaeljehnno]

I have paid les them that for my pinball ( old electromechanical bally, all 3 of them).

[@FranktheTank319]

How is the ball physics, though? That's what I want to know.

[@ivandavidmacinas3257]

This is just a modified version of The Pinball Arcade. You can play the free trial of the various tables (and more). For me, it's good enough.

[@b.o.353]

Android version of pinball arcade.

[@CraigSteelyard]

Disappointing they lost the licenses for the base games tables Im just glad I purchased all of the packs in time. Pinball FX 3 is a good alternative though l.

[@ivandavidmacinas3257]

@@CraigSteelyard I hope that Pinball FX3 acquires the Gottlieb tables, mainly Haunted House and Cue Ball Wizard.

[@ClentonClarion]

That Legends Ultimate tho is 🔥🔥🔥

[@FuncleNaeNae]

When you do the mod on it make sure you put SPACE CADET.

[@michaelkaybecker]

I have been trying to find a good version of space cadet for my digital pin but there hard to find a decent copy

[@BIGMIKE360AMUSEMENTS]

The Nudge has a faster response than the actual flipper buttons. I wish you can add more games on here instead of modding the entire pinball machine. On a scale from 1-10 what is your rating on this game?

[@LeoNegrete84]

Good review thanx

[@KayoMichiels]

I would mod the heck of this thing and put hyperpin on it!

[@DoubleG247]

Who likes Bally/Williams over Gottlieb? Your thoughts 💭

[@loganq]

It depends on the time period really. But the System 80 machines are fantastic.

[@timdawg9198]

I need Williams!

[@stinkypinkeee5085]

Data East made the incredible Star Wars machine in the early 90's...that table alone puts them in rarified air...Bally-Midway made some amazing games, but Gottlieb did as well...so very hard to pick between them...

[@figment1988]

Most Gottlieb pinball tables were very good, and many arcade operators loved the tables because their dot Matrix displays didn't eat up as much energy as the Williams tables

[@rushmore3927]

ETA, like the Arcade 1ups, not sure on the geometry they are using to say this is 3/4 scale ;)

[@grahamgreene1158]

Hello, can we add tables? thx

[@gmpnj29]

This is pretty cool, thanks for sharing this. Maybe you can do a mod on it?

[@kjetilfrugard8395]

If they include Space Cadet and Epic Pinball it's an instabuy for me.

[@MrJaz8088]

All those Feature are available in PinballX Front End

[@douglasquaid4518]

Part of the delay might be slapping the flipper buttons instead just rest your fingers on the buttons then push

[@djm2373]

I wish the bezel was green the same as Cab.

[@UltraReefReseller]

These are on sale for $549 now....399 was a steal, you just didn't know it.

[@beakerwick646]

So if they do fix the latency, is there a way to update this thing?

[@majordisappointment8692]

Nice machine to bad we couldn't get High Speed but I know another company but would be nice. Thanks for the look see.

[@DoubleG247]

I was about to build one from scratch, I heard good and bad things about it

[@rushmore3927]

The geometry skill of these companies is is hilarious. These aren't 3/4 scale. They're closer to half scale.