Have Factory 450's OUTGROWN Supercross Stadiums??

[@eriksforestryvision8751]

TAKE THE GRATES AWAY IM SOOO GLAD DUFFY SAID THIS. IVE BEEN YELLING IT FOR YEARS!!!!!

[@timbeach2409]

Make the tracks completely different for each race so the big teams don't have dedicated practice tracks like the race track.

[@poorman9259]

They will still be able to do it in certain amounts, now that there’s a showboy in each class they certainly won’t do that

[@pilsnerfamilymotorsports3275]

Allow stock 250 2 strokes in mx2, Canada does it and it works well

[@Highonlife_93]

Canada also don’t have no epa like usa.

[@bmxican0704]

Nobody would ride a 2 stroke over a 4 stroke in sx. That would be So dumb

[@ryanravosa5414]

​@bmxican0704 probably not sx but you would see a lot of guys in MX, especially privater which would be cool

[@pilsnerfamilymotorsports3275]

@@bmxican0704 a 250 2 stroke against a 250f? Not dumb at all

[@pilsnerfamilymotorsports3275]

@@bmxican0704 for a privateer its smart, more power right out of the box, instead of spending tgousands on a 259f motor to stiol nit have one as fast as a factory bike

[@Jbubbs2]

Great conversation

[@jackmnb474]

Johnny Hopper has also been bringing up the grate starts. Def seems like they took that edge away from the dudes that can start

[@dennisjonon6010]

it took all skill away from starting...

[@zacharyhickman8382]

I grew up riding in early 2000s. I don't remember the start being AS important as it is now. Seems like now, the start is 90% of the challenge to win

[@rg807]

And yes, get rid of the holeshot devices and crates. If they don't add to the racing, there is no point in having them.

[@kaneCarter_]

@@rg807 There’s also no point in not having them since everyone has it and same with crates. Although dirt starts were a lot cooler

[@braaap6292]

450s are stupid fast these days, especially for motocross. I actually like them off road because you can point and shoot and actually use the acceleration to get corner to corner without getting too crazy, but on a motocross track, the potential to carry soooo much speed makes all that power terrifying. You can ride basically any other bike all out on a moto track, but a 450 is a practice in restraint. One slip of the throttle and your off a jump sideways into orbit. Just my experience based on riding a '24 YZ450F, it was retarded fast compared to older 450s I've ridden. It wasn't just fast, it was so wildly responsive to throttle inputs. Just a tickle of throttle and it was wanting to GOOOO.

[@rg807]

Part of what made 2 strokes so great is the real-time calculus a ride had to do to try and determine IF they are going to clear something. The fix: 250s for the Premier class, and 150s for the other.

[@spread4me75]

U have to calculate to determine what u need to clear a jump on a 4 stroke also, what are u saying? Iv ridden mx starting at 7 in the in 1987, raced/ridden my whole life, I'm now 44 and race a 450, the calculation hasn't changed, now I just have more torque

[@kaneCarter_]

@@spread4me75 these people are something else honestly

[@jameshendley1975]

Vital Mx forum would have a huge meltdown if the 450 class went to 400cc. It would be hilarious 😂

[@tomstevens7452]

And it should really go to 350

[@1Joe-dangerous]

Ryan Hughes during a interview mentioned 450 are to fast. He was advocating for manufactures to build 350.

[@chewyb383]

You could win on a 350. I'm a 2T guy woods rider. But, they need to change the tracks. They have to. Too many tracks that weigh heavy on the start. You should be able to pass if you're good. The start should not matter as much as it does.

[@eddalton8530]

@1Joe-dangerous they could make it so the 450 is stock performance or even de-tune them all to the same hp. putting more rider talent on display.

[@chewyb383]

@@eddalton8530 This sounds like Nascar..no thanks. The 450 already has way too much power. The key to it, is making it usable. My problem is the tracks. They are basically designing tracks to make it impossible to pass after it gets destroyed. They need to make better tracks. More passing lanes. If you are good, you will pass (if you can).

[@eddalton8530]

@chewyb383 I'm no fan of nascar. i just think there are lots of talented riders who get smoked by the "factory bikes" . or give the non factory riders access to the same parts as the top 4 or 5 guys. even it up a little is all im sayin..

[@eriksforestryvision8751]

He's been saying it for years dude...

[@LarryLinton]

Bring back the tracks from the mid 2000s ...Best SX tracks ever

[@robrobinette]

All the AMA has to do to get two-strokes back on track at the Supercross level is to tweak the rules until you actually give the two-strokes a fair chance to win. That's it.

[@ElectricBikeLaboratory]

Really good point that grates cause immediate high mph into the first turn no matter what. Did not think of this before from a safety perspective

[@justincoull2166]

2strokes were great it came down to skill. You had a throttle and brakes no traction control it came down to how well you were at controlling the power

[@cruisinspecialtiesllc6104]

It seems like every single person says 450s are too poweeful for supercross, yet here we are watching 450s race supercross. There must be somebody who wants 450s racing supercross. I want to hear them say it.

[@MXGriffin]

Bring back the 250 2 stroke PLEASE

[@Highonlife_93]

Not going to happen. Thank the epa. Next is electric

[@RB-ld5fb]

Duffy is the best dude

[@brokeandpoor]

Totally down to earth

[@user-mo8tm4jw2l]

No grates and ditch the start maps. Make them control the rpm and the clutch slip themselves. Right now Honda boys are just dumping the clutch. There is ZERO feeding of the clutch happening on the start with them and it shows compared to the guys who still have to manipulate the clutch to keep the front end down. Being able to hold the throttle on the stop and just dump the clutch on a grate with a hold down leads to the shit we have to deal with right now. Hold downs are fine. Grates need to go and electronics need to be limited. Period.

[@LetBrockBye]

No matter what you do , the best guys will still get the starts

[@user-mo8tm4jw2l]

@@LetBrockBye that’s the point. Separation. We have none right now. Who gets the holeshot is irrelevant. It’s about the pileups first turn because the ENTIRE pack is reaching it with a half bike length separation. Count pileups today vs 10 years ago. Dirt and lack of electronic starting aids spread the field out in turn one.

[@LetBrockBye]

@@user-mo8tm4jw2l gotcha

[@ashflame6888]

make the god damn sport affordable again and BRING BACK THE GOD DAMN 250 2 STROKES! The sport was 100000x better. Everyone could AFFORD it and the racing was 10x better.

[@MX-CO]

Yes

[@robertjolliffe4164]

Yep but there was probably 10x less ppl in the sport

[@bagelmonster420]

Your not smart​@@robertjolliffe4164

[@EkonRekon]

Word

[@lelz28]

Carbureted, one ignition curve, no launch control.

[@brettd.watson1821]

Two things to do to make it more interesting. 1 is make heats give points even if its just for winning or pos. 1-3. Next is do split starts like Vegas had. It splits the riders up so less of a chance to wad one another up, it also allows more chances for the fast guys to just get out there.

[@alondite215]

Staggered gate start. Design the gate mechanism so the gates on one side of the doghouse drop a fraction of a second before the gates on the other side. Several advantages: Fewer guys all trying to cram into the corner at once if they come in two groups, more incentive for better qualifying finish to get the first gate drop, more consistently keeping the top guys starting the race together at the front, etc. And I'm not really sure I see much of a downside that doesn't already exist with a full gate drop. Addresses some of the issues with the gate start while keeping it intact overall.

[@michaelherrickmusic]

Honestly with how fast 450s and 250s are, I think the classes should be 350 and 200

[@superegghead13]

We need a 250 2 stroke exhibition race atleast a mini series would be sweet tho

[@xbergalicious8213]

I wish they would just add a 2 stroke pro class. But the tracks are so different now for 4 strokes it might be difficult.

[@jpesicka492]

Just make the 450 class an open class. Love to see some privateer on a 500 2 stroke.

[@1176hambone]

What was the justification for grate starts?

[@derekeftink9076]

grate starts are unnecessary and lame

[@no-namecrown5510]

There's an upside to 2 strokes not coming back - guys are restomodding the 90's and 2000's 2 strokes that easily compete with late model racers and they look and sound shit hot doing it.

[@holeshotinspectionllc2412]

Rumor is Yamaha is developing a 350...🤙🏁

[@superegghead13]

Itll be a couple years at least it took them 3 years to do the r9 sport bike after killing the r6 when thats all everyone was asking for

[@holeshotinspectionllc2412]

@superegghead13 Saw that Kaliub Russell has been hired to develop the bike, as far as an ETA, I have no clue hopefully they do it.🤤

[@superegghead13]

@@holeshotinspectionllc2412 same, the 450 is just ridiculous

[@holeshotinspectionllc2412]

@superegghead13 I bought a 22 Husky 350 and blew out the forks at 1.9 hrs, so I took it back and picked up the 22.5 Factory Edition Husky 450. The 350 was close to what I needed, and I heard the 23+ had more bottom. I'm 40 now, but I still hit some pretty big stuff. The Yamaha may be the ticket. I rode local pro, and did Freestyle shows, and agree 100% most don't need the 450. If I'm hitting a tripple right out a turn, I feel more comfortable having that extra power on tap if I don't hit my marks, and honestly I can ride a gear higher and free up the chassis. I'm excited to see how it goes🤙🏁

[@superegghead13]

@@holeshotinspectionllc2412 ride the 24 or up youll love it, 24 kx is a dog, crf feels the same as previous years

[@raynoriega56]

Get rid of the starting grate, hole shot device and limit electronics to timing and fuel delivery tuning. Maybe introduce a staggered start for the top ten, a one foot advantage for the top qualifier over the number two qualifier, and so on , to the tenth position then 11th on all be lined up equal. Friday riders could give thoughts on preferred position for gate one. Timed qualifying would not start from behind the starting gate. The fastest time in each qualifier or heat gets the pole position. Still makes the first turn exciting, but rewards the fastest qualifier.

[@joelballard4955]

Get rid of scoop and sand tires. Only one set of tires for the entire weekend. Maximum of 93 octane fuel. Get rid of gate starts. Get rid of single line track design.

[@1969cmp]

95 or 98RON is fine. Straight out of the pump in Oz.

[@benlondon8467]

Difference in today’s racing is there are 10 x RC/J7/CR/ etc, top pros in SX/MX all live, train, bike prep etc , all learnt from people like RC programs to be competitive in the sport of todays SX/MX. Does not matter what bikes you give these blokes, they will still be racing the same, flat out !! Do we want them to build the most bad ass MX bikes or not ? Because what they race is what they build for the rest of us. Give me a 450 modern MX all day, yep it’s got more in it than my riding ability, but it’s bloody fun, and ya don’t need to clutch it over big washouts like a 250. Brilliant machines, personally I recon build 500,s , more power, ya want to see who is most skilled? Just like now, the bloke who can ride a weapon the fastest, ✌️

[@Aretumis]

This is why I will always love Bubba, even on a 450 he found lines pretty much no one else would do. There would be the occasional Reed or Villo that would either go for it, or see Bubba do a line and go for it. Hell, when Jett did that 5 out in sx this year, they made the section longer so he couldn't do it. That is so stupid, he had the balls to jump it let him do it.

[@vintagemxer9165]

Jett will get the holeshot and it's over. I have no reason to watch at that point.

[@barcuda1250]

Its not just electronic 2012 nz bt101 all 3 starts carrying the front like 30mm of the ground the hole strat straight till he brakes Its like all sports its just they all that good

[@cale168]

250 class needs restriction plates like nascar. The difference between factory 250f power to weight and 450f power to weight is too minor. And we either need staggered starting gates, so 1st qualifier gate is 1/2 inch ahead of 2nd qualifier and so on OR doing the straight and corner to ALWAYS be tailored to inside gate and get gradually worse. You could still holeshot with a bad qually, but it will be much harder to do so. Also bring back a 125 series that runs different tracks on Sundays.

[@5thgearpinned450]

People complaining about 450s having too much power the solution of that is just bigger tracks longer straits utilize that power i’m talking deep ruts, deep mud, longer jumps,ect

[@JBHIFI-fo4lb]

The Japanese brands NEED to make a 350f model, the ktm is amazing

[@TheReanim8ted]

I think the grates make for a more even playing field and a better race to watch if the field is more likely to be mixed from the start. Otherwise you’re favouring the fastest qualifier which makes for a less interesting race.

[@mickpentoney2172]

Really make it a nail biter - which is what you want. Qualify to make the show. Two 15 min races ( 12 for 250’s) Points leader draws chip 1-5 , same second for second, third , fourth and fifth. The rest draw 6-20 . 21,22 qualifier no draw just line up second row! 1-5 Televised on big screen- open up gambling opportunity on your phone as a game of chance! Thank you America - “ if you gotta problem woo I’ll solve it. Second race, you solve- first race result or same lineup again.

[@vmcmark7578]

ELECTRONICS, as you said, are the answer! Let everyone know what the specs are going to be & have the PROMOTER hand out those units to EVERYONE so it's still rider & setup but now we have some parity. The production rule was going to FIX & SAVE the lowest & slowest & that didn't work. With the Stark & other electric race bikes coming, SPEC ELECTRONICS are going to become the norm anyway. This would be more help than the production rule because no matter what the factories did, everyone gets the same power & overall speed so let the rider make the difference.

[@natel7382]

Feld mx sports would let manus pay them and get an advantage. Look at how dirty they do the privateers with sound tests and other things if they perform well. The sport is already incredibly corrupt.

[@yugen0o]

AMA should have a 2-Stroke Series like NASCAR has the Xfinity and Craftsman Truck Series. Have two-stroke 125cc, 250cc and an Open Class. I'd watch that for sure. I couldn't care less about the 4-Strokes, but they should learn from their mistakes and do the same for the E-Bikes and not try and replace the 4-Strokes w/ E-Bikes.

[@CrimsonJohn-vo2ou]

If they fucking go to e bikes I'll never watch another race again

[@jongib6096]

Dirt starts would be awesome!

[@AZFarmFun-hp1cu]

I dunno, by the end of a 2-stroke SX event you couldn’t see through the fog and your eyes & nose were burning. I raced CR500R and a KX250, but I prefer the modern bikes now.

[@Tide12NC]

They should add a 250 2 stroke class

[@lisaharvey4373]

To really see which rider is the best at holes shots take the launch control away and basically all the electronic devices let the riders skills determine who's better just do it!

[@nonstop1212]

Brent has a Vialle kind of vibe!

[@noelgarvin7637]

AMA, please listen 💯💯💯

[@Brian-rn2wx]

They won't.

[@noelgarvin7637]

@@Brian-rn2wx sad but true, they have the power to make racing better for the riders n the fans... If they would actually listen n apply what riders feel would make tracks better for all classes n the excitement of fans... Interesting, because more fans equals more $$$, 1 would think they could catch on ..

[@bigchaloopa]

AMA only care about dues, membership, and $$

[@Brian-rn2wx]

@noelgarvin7637 Not to mention how much the manufacturers would also benefit greatly by selling and advertising more bikes and it would make for better and more competitive racing. I say the same way MLB only allows wood bats over aluminum because one is more superior than the other, then the same argument could be made for 2 strokes vs 4 strokes but hey.. I'm just a bystander. That's a case of too many old washed beaurocrats who only care about lining their own pockets

[@Brian-rn2wx]

@bigchaloopa Im guessing That's probably why they're going after corksey.

[@mikebrown41182]

They went to kill of the two strokes for pollution and emissions, but in reality did they publish anything that could reveal how much motocross as a whole released in total, no they did not. It was so crazy how they made rapid decisions based on such a fragment of emission. And funny enough, some major top players in this sport thought this was a bad idea, politicians and manufactures did not bother to listen to them, or the moto community. Here we are, two strokes are gone in motocross, but they are doing fairly well other branches of offroad, but limited to fewer manufactures that actually makes them. They are not coming back, well why cant that change? I would have loved to sit down with hondas, suzukis, Kawasakis top decision makers and actually here whats going on in their minds.

[@peacefulwarrior4078]

The two strokes AREN'T BEING ALLOWED TO COME BACK ! 🤬 EPA & AMA NOT that they're not coming back let's face it the two strokes are the true and only answer to the Supercross too much power problem ... bring back the two strokes and especially the 500cc two stroke Outdoor nationals 😎💪🤙

[@Mac-td7lt]

Eff the EPA. Those effers are like Nazi brown coats.

[@_CashFlowTy]

☝🏾

[@randygari3888]

The answer is yes, the open class should be 300 or 350 cc, all traction controls removed , fuel mapping removed . Ride the damn bikes with out all the gadgets. Design the tracks for the technical rider, get the bikes out of the air and put them back on the ground as much as possible. Motocross was hard ,demanding, brutal back in the day with 2 -45 min moto’s More side by side competition. The speed has to come down in the small space these stadium tracks are.

[@ralpheckardt4822]

Bring back the track designs from the mid eighties.

[@bdb3011]

Not everyone limits themselves to riding in a circle... Lot's of us need more power for our chosen disciplines. Definitely not too fast for lots and lots of us.

[@TATE411]

20 riders , super pole top10 , 2 rows of start, staggered creates 1 bike wide seperation between al riders

[@jammer212]

we need to start leaving the track format and starting grids up to the track owners. not only does it change things up, but they dont have a standard to compare and rely on to win every race. because yes, the dirt changes, but they already know what each track will be like, and how the start is gonna be. if its not officially said and set with a standard no one will have a edge because they have to udjust much more on race day and hopefully get it right or add more tracks and pick out of a hat so that the tracks arnt always the same. theres many ways to change it up.

[@mikelellsaesser1320]

Can u make a two stroke 350 class

[@markbirkemeyer7821]

Bring back the the two stroke five hundred class

[@seanhaberman4619]

They never raced supercross with the 500s.

[@josephchambers5400]

Start on dirt and have a limit to how deep the holeshot device can go

[@stuey91177]

And yes. Bring back. 250 2 strokes. Asap

[@motozaye]

What about a coin toss every weekend after qualifying for inverted gate selection? Fastest guy could have first gate pick or last you never know

[@danmorrison7112]

Ive always thought its interesting that "dirt bike" racing has grate starts. Go back to dirt, production motorcycles only. bring back whoops.

[@kc72186]

Make it like speedway, absolutely NO BRAKES.

[@ajmalin121]

Easy solution-bring back open class and allow E-bikes to line up 👍🏻 if you want excitement, that’s the future 💯

[@waynecaudle2204]

It’s not SX without the Whoops and Dragonbacks

[@shmirdonkin]

Well they used to have heats. They only took that away a few years ago.

[@johnwadsworth4916]

How about riding stock bikes

[@powersportsenthusiast1986]

outgrown

[@lakeloon]

450s not 450's

[@lakeloon]

Apostrophe is used to show ownership. 450's what?

[@ropedb]

350

[@SpeakerKevin]

Look what they did in golf when the equipment made the courses shorter. They limited the golf ball and driver performance. In supercross, they need to shrink the displacement. That will help drive technology.

[@richardpichan6916]

That middle ground is going to be very hard to recognize at this point in regards to the technology and the accessibility or those "benefits" to each rider and team. I don't think it would happen. The only way the money and marketers could allow it would be with a separate series, which would be detrimental to their current programs and directions.

[@gfys6205]

If qualify for a supercross in 21st position your still one of the fastest in the country.

[@DeadRoman]

outgrown*

[@Mavo1989]

The way to bring it back into line - is remove any other electronic aids for the bikes along with grates for start.... HP is what it is, but electronic aids are not rewarding the most skilled if your not on the team with the best programmers and electronics your at a disadvantage.... remove TC, Holeshot, Wheelie ect ect.... thats really the balance that needs to be brought in as from top10 top 20th can bring the pack right back closer and more even.... remove the electronics we didnt have it through the best years of racing

[@PotatoeJoe69]

300cc 2 strokes bridge the gap between old 2 strokes and modern 450's, at least in the way power is made. 2 strokes should come back, and it should be an AMA 300cc Pro MX class.

[@datapusher-]

Yes, dirt starts. Yes, whoops.

[@marks-0-0]

Take away launch control, fork lock outs and start grates for a start

[@Caldana1219]

I’m sure they could make a 500 2 stroke that would rip.

[@douglasgrosch228]

The smell of 2 stroke oil and sound in stadium..braasaaaap

[@NCman321]

Go to Saudi Arabia and have them buy a team and run 2 strokes internationally and give them stupid money. But to do that you have to continue to grow bike racing on a dirtbike

[@danielparsons1616]

Hate saying this but we might be like nascar soon when everyone's on electric bikes. I don't want that but feel like it's coming

[@motocross3586]

350 is the answer, and drop the weight minimum or the bike down to 180lbs! Too heavy too fast. Remove ALL electronics and start devices!

[@kurtheidelbach]

Absolutely go 350’s. Yamaha is so far behind the power curve on the release of a 350. I heard they are in the process of working on one though. Duff you should know. Can’t believe they are wasting the market since it has been KTM’s best selling bike for years.

[@ottorocket]

Imo pro class should be stock motors. Yeah do suspension that's fine but don't touch the motor. These`24/`25 450s have PLENTY of power

[@dandann9203]

No more scoops sx

[@1969cmp]

....or anywhere.....they did get banned in the late 70s

[@davessparetime83]

Drop the 450 down to 350. Angle the start grid best to worst qualify

[@Brian-rn2wx]

I know its not base ball but In Pro MLB aluminum bats are not allowed because they're superior to wood bats. In MX/SX 4 strokes are superior to 2 strokes but they're allowed to race on the superior platform. I say the true capabilities and talents of an athlete are always displayed more on the inferior equipment, its better for the sport and the manufacturers sell more bikes. But thats just my opinion 🤷🏾.

[@tol12341]

Cookie cutter motor sports SUX

[@callummcintyre7602]

Bring back dirt starts let guys dig there own gate

[@Mxrider24-n7z]

I been saying for years, supercross is 2 strokes house period, big names would love to have a 2 stroke series not having to ride,450,s til outdoors, because it's just NASCAR In sx form...

[@defconone681]

We are watching a pro sport and were trying to make it easier for the riders lmaoo again a PRO SPORT and were taking out whoops and dragon backs which is the stupidest shit iv ever heard of in my life,Riders dont have to jump stuff if they dont want to and if they get hurt doing it then thats part of it, football players get hurt hell every sport has injuries. If the sx stadiums are too small for 450s and i agree on that then do tracks at these speedways were they can open the bikes up more, All this could be fixed if we had smart ppl running the show!

[@natel7382]

It's all about liability. Mx is the only sport where if a yellow flag waves the cameras actively try to hide it. Every other racing series they replay the crash over and over. But they don't get hurt, and have so many safety devices where mx has almost none. Mx is one of the last racing series you can actually die pretty easily. And at the end of the day it's about money. It will get way worse before it gets better.

[@gooddickman1561]

Football is a shit example dude. They have added so many rules for player safety. Just watch old clips and see how brutal those tackles used to be

[@kc72186]

Worst part is that there will be generations of people that will never get a chance to ride a 2 stroke.

[@Deezalmech]

Dirt starts, no starting devices, no slipper clutches and bikes straight off the show room floor with stock motors and no mapping or tunes. No more high tech factory bikes. Suspension wise you can change springs but no custom valving. You can change handle bars but not bar position. You can change tires but not gearing, and no more race fuel just good old regular pump gas.

[@Mxrider24-n7z]

We have to be able to separate the skill level in riders, but you can't when everyone is on a Cadillac of a 450 and can do the same obstacles even if they are not a relevant rider....

[@kelliebrooks9094]

Why did dirt starts going away LAZYNESS

[@ultimatedriversofmachinery]

The guys on 450s don’t send it that much harder than guys on the 250s either so why not go back to 125 and 250

[@johnculbreth4543]

Less suspension travel. Six, eight inches.

[@allmtbnzscottbrownhill2896]

If 450s were to fast then the top guys wouldn't want more power but they do. The separator is talent, budget and setup knowledge. You can fix budget you could do control tyres but you can't fix talent and setup knowledge.

[@SHADYxx178]

They don't want more power. What they want is better power delivery but they always tune down the engines for supercross. It's all about traction in SX

[@allmtbnzscottbrownhill2896]

@@SHADYxx178 I heard plenty of interviews from top riders seeking more power over stock for SX in the past few years.

[@SHADYxx178]

@allmtbnzscottbrownhill2896 who? Maybe the 250s but look at the most recent austin forever interview. He even said the 450s are too powerful and you have to map them down because if not you don't get traction. It's all tire spin because there's too much power. If you can't get the power to the ground it's pointless. That's why all the factory teams spend endless hours and money mapping and perfecting these engines. There's not one triple in supercross you can't hit in 1st gear on a 450. Just ask yourself on what part of any SX track last year would more power have helped any rider. There's a reason why so many of these guys love 350s. The 450s are just too much for a so track

[@hookdfilms4020]

If you want a 2 stroke race …. Put up a 50,000 purse

[@joshr8650]

The 350 argument has never made sense to me. You already have a slower, lighter and cheaper bike legal in the class and that's the 250 two stroke

[@douglasgrosch228]

300cc 2 strokes . Race be ticket .

[@kanesaw7456]

You talk about starts being about the rider. But ur on a team, so why wouldn't you have the best mechanics, engineers and innovation to get the hole shots.