Have You Ever Seen A Vise This Big? - Restoration

Restoring this huge 170lbs Prentiss 22 swivel jaw vise has been something Ive wanted to do for a long time. A swivel jaw vise is one of the most useful things you can have in a shop, especially one this large! Thank you to WD-40 for sponsoring this video, see below for some links to the products I used in this video:
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[@besenwieslersepp1011]

I've seen a lot of vise restoration videos like this and literally every KZbinr has covered a nice old vise with Bondo. Thank you for letting this tool have its history.

[@philipzielinski]

Seized pin: heat. Torch, good. Induction coil designed for localized heating, best.

[@buddyreed2623]

I like seeing old tools restored and usable again. I can appreciate the actual time spent in this restoration. Have good days!

[@semillerimages]

I’ll never do the things you do, but I find it fascinating to watch and learn. I almost skipped the video because I’ve seen so many vice restorations on other channels. I’m glad I watched because you did a few things that I’ve never seen others do! Thank you for sharing, your skills in the shop and your filming/editing and voice overs are awesome. Cheers!

[@MakeEverything]

Thank you for watching!!

[@TEAMPHY6]

Nice tip for the needle scaler, I didn't understand it's use in TIG at first! Thanks for explaining that.

[@MakeEverything]

The tig tickler!

[@Dr.CandanEsin]

This is a beautiful showcase that can be used in a documentary named "This is not a history reactivation. This is sweat and tears come back to life" ❤

[@TEAMPHY6]

I have a Prentiss 23, it's awesome! I had my dad remake the taper pin on a lathe, with a threaded section on top that can be used to unstick the pin using a matching nut.

[@MakeEverything]

Good idea!

[@Steve-qo4hi]

Love old vises and love restoring them. That was awesome!

[@marcuscicero9587]

barely looks painted, which is a good thing. had a great time visiting, thanks

[@junjun9517]

Action speaks louder than words

[@jamesbarisitz4794]

Time to build a rolling crane. Watching you slug that vise up on the bench made me wince.

[@MakeEverything]

I’m a few inches shorter now!

[@jeremyspecce]

@@MakeEverythinghaha, yeah, that looked fun😂

[@jeremyspecce]

Pipe polishing tool coming in clutch on that 7/8 rod🙌🏻

[@garagemonkeysan]

Great video. Beautiful resto, better than new. Mahalo for sharing.

[@t0mn8r35]

That's a nice project. Well done. I especially like your narration.

[@SeeMooreVids]

Super job. 👍 and great narration.

[@tomim7187]

Ok, now I want one too! Thanks, Chris. Great resto!

[@jt9498]

WOW! That's quite the vise! Nice job on refurbishing it.

[@bambambundy6]

Nice job on the vise. Amazing on the foot!!

[@dc85337]

As far as Large - See Fireball Tools - Now that is a LARGE VISE! Nice job on the restoration the Swivel Vise Jaw restoration. Well worth the effort.

[@davefrancis4529]

You should get one of those laser cleaners. Amazing work and really well filmed and explained. Thanks 👍🏼

[@chrisgenovese8188]

gosh dang, outstanding work! thats a lovely piece of history and workshop kit.

[@tubularguynine]

I HAVE a vise that big. It's green, and the base/fixed jaw and slide/movable jaw are round. So it not only clamps, the jaws also rotate. Excellent restoration!

[@racebanning6390]

Great restoration, Super kool Tool. Machining all cane out fantastic. As a Precision Assembly Technician of almost 20 years , I approve all the work done here👍👍. That new base mount you welded on to the cast was Awesome!!.. def gotta heat up that cast iron is key. Congrats🏁🇺🇸🇺🇸🔧🛠️🔧🛠️

[@GG-ud1ib]

I have vise envy🤔 I can only think of 4 tools that still needs CPR. An old Kemp original shredders, an old wood lathe a newer wire feed welder, and my grandfather's air compressor could use some TLC. Those are the only pending projects that the sponsor of the compilation would be interested in.

[@RustyInventions-wz6ir]

It’s a big one for sure. Nice work

[@danielgriffith7694]

Yes, we , at Cummins had a Wilton that had 12 inch wide jaw , we used it to repair large pump housings

[@gubr]

Looks good. If that bronze sleeve ever comes out, how about making two half length ones with collars, so you press in one from each side and the collar will stop them from going further. The impact of the falling handle will only press them in, not out.

[@jeremyspecce]

Cool idea

[@christopherprince3250]

Awesome job and an awesome vice. Would love to have it in my shop.

[@tomeyssen9674]

Really enjoyed your work. Grat job... nice. Thanks

[@porthose2002]

What a beautiful thing.

[@davidgardiner3386]

dude i cant listen to you at all but you do you and goodluck

[@joegilly1523]

Dude you impressed me with your Vice Knowledge ,and milling and fabrication, and Great Welding . I have a old Vice I got from a maintenance shop when the company I worked for folded. It’s Old and It must weigh 75 lbs in a Monarch #219

[@jeffkthompson]

Awesome! I have a smaller version and it's super nice. Not sure if this was original, but the pin on mine has another taper on the top part but it's much shorter. I think it's so you can set the pin in the hole so it doesn't get lost while using the vise in swivel mode

[@carlcarlamos9055]

That is a good size vice with interesting features, but there is a whole big, different world out there from the little shops that we inhabit. I had something in an old, big industrial shop to be worked on, and the vise they used was roughly four times bigger than that one. I’m not giving more info because the neighborhood is already bad enough without a bunch of nuts trying to break in to steal their vice. Thanks for the video. Keep having fun and take care.

[@eric_seguin]

Had 5 vices. 3 old, 1 new in the box, and a machine vice. The latter is all I have left. Thieves probably scrapped the rest for drug money. Thank you Tangipahoe Parish, Louisiana. Thieving capitol of Louisiana.

[@Bigfoot14000]

Outstanding work on that base repair, and on the swivel jaw as well. This monster makes my 60 pound Parker 272 look like a toy.😆

[@howardkanitz4998]

Cool! I think you should make the second vice a fractal jaw.

[@looking_33]

Wow. I use wire wheels to clean scale off of things all the time, but I could never find a way to get in the crevices well. That little single point is gonna help me so much, never heard of them before. BTW have that same ryobi die grinder. Love that thing!

[@MakeEverything]

The single point wire wheels are a hidden gem!! once you get one set up youll almost want to buy another die grinder and keep it on there forever!

[@James-ru4jx]

Nice ! Spring cap oil ports and oil bronze Gibbs for the main rail like on a lathe bed for the next one,maybe ?

[@philipdenner8504]

Loved it. what a great vise

[@mikerobinson6606]

I've been slowly working on a swivel jaw pin for 11 months now. Lol

[@MakeEverything]

Did you see how I got this one out?! I think it was well worth the cost of that scissor jack!!

[@mikerobinson6606]

​@MakeEverything I took note for sure. Plus I'm going to make a set of those jaws for a Parker 4 1/2" swivel. Ever make Parker jaws?

[@MakeEverything]

@@mikerobinson6606 yes I have, in a very old video I made some, I didn’t do the best job on those and used a dovetail cuter that wasn’t really the right angle, that being said they worked out well!

[@Kami8705]

I've been fighting a pin in a smaller prentiss for at least that long, although only recently got serious about it. At this point I'm looking at drilling it out, it doesn't want to budge and you can't hit it from the back side. I thought about building a very simple machinist jack to do basically what you did, but I doubt it would have the power for it

[@jeremyspecce]

@@Kami8705how much effort have you put into twisting it? I feel like that might be the most effective.

[@diverdave4056]

WOW thats a Sweet VICE ! try using a Warrior paint removal disk in your right angle grinder... it will quickly remove paint n stuff and it will polish rusty metal up to look like chrome ! Perhaps you should make a new pin for that swivel jaw that is taller and put a pull ring on it or a ball to make it easy to grab

[@tomcatfoolery]

I've seen them this large, and much larger.

[@user-ph8zz7zm5f]

Excellent video!

[@Corbide]

To improve your surface finish when turning an object in a lathe stay away from very light depths of cut especially using carbide, also make sure you have enough surface footage for the material your cutting. Hopes that helps!

[@argee55]

This undoubtedly the best vise restoration video on KZbin. Great job!

[@eduardoHMYT]

Excelent job, please protect lathe guides with cardboard when grinding

[@WhiteVaille]

Wow, that's a really fucking cool feature. Never seen a swivel head like that before. My only concern is, why not use grease instead of oil? And also, on that note, how do you add oil in the future for maintenance? Do you have to disassemble again? Or is there like a fill port somewhere? Alternatively, if you used grease, then perhaps a Zerk fitting or two.

[@bobgleaser7106]

My father had one on his work bench another fixed to his anvil also one one the back of his portable welder.

[@HorsleyLandy88]

Oilite bronze is quite brittle as it is made from pressed powder I thought.

[@spencereagle1118]

The British Record 518 1/2 'Chipping Vice' comes in at 250lb +

[@justanamerican9024]

Why didn't you use heat on the swivel pin?

[@MakeEverything]

I did along the way, it took everything I had to get it out

[@justanamerican9024]

@@MakeEverything Just a theory, someone wanted to move it and drove the pin in with a hammer. There is no way it got that stuck just sitting in the hole.

[@MakeEverything]

@@justanamerican9024oh definitely, it’s very common that those pins got bashed in and then left outside to seize up. Most people don’t even know they have a swivel jaw vise because the pins got ground down inadvertently

[@gubr]

People use it as mini anvil…

[@mariogs19]

Slide hammer would have worked to remove pin. Also look into an extremely easy way of cleaning old steel called electrolysis.

[@cheferic6969]

Yes, I see one on your bench.

[@bobbell5928]

WOW!

[@laurafiler3760]

Cool vise that thing probably cost at least 4k dollars.

[@warrenjones744]

Oh yeah, I have a similar vise and right around that weight I think. A Starrett 646 It's a serious chunk of Iron. Most of the time if find if you have porosity while welding cast iron, grind it out and weld it again. Sometimes you have to do that a few times to bake out the crap. I find it all depends on the iron. Some cast iron simply does not weld at all. Some welds like steel. most of it falls in-between. I guess it depends on the make up of it and what the service conditions were over the years. Nevertheless , good stuff here, well done.

[@fort147]

Would heat been a choice to remove the tapered pin out?

[@timmer9lives]

Or weld a nut to it. But the sponsor is WD. Probably don't want to offend them. Bronze bushing looks nice but now the rod is smaller diameter. So it's going to bend easier. And a vise that big, hell I've used cheater bars on smaller vises. One more note. You really don't want bearings on the screw. That friction is what helps the vise stay tight when beating on something. That bearing is going to make it easier to losen up. A bronze washer would have been a better choice IN MY OPINION. But, to each their own.

[@donmedford2563]

I do not see the link for the fab table.

[@terenceblakely4328]

Why not use a sand blaster with an appropriate abrasive?

[@grahamodonahoe5967]

vise envy

[@walterbieniek9802]

today you do not find someting so good anymore

[@joelmcclellan1050]

I wish you had a small enerpac.

[@richvandervoort2950]

Typically the vise jaws are 30 degree countersinks. It looks like you used 100 degree countersunk fasteners. Any reason why you made the change?

[@MakeEverything]

@@richvandervoort2950 82 degree screws and countersink it was what I had on hand

[@bgivney]

Make the next one: Tech-Forward 100yrs ….. Linear Actuator on the open/close, swivel motor, App Controlled? Safety override necessary. 👍

[@GoldmansGarage]

As I’m watching is that a 23 not a 22? Are the jaws 6” or 7”? I’m about 1/3rd in as of now and I keep thinking it looks just a bit bigger then the 22

[@MakeEverything]

Yeah I wish it was a 23! Missed my chance to get one a few months ago and regret it! its sure a monster though, this thing makes all my other vises look tiny.

[@GoldmansGarage]

@@MakeEverything yup. I thought the 6” was huge till I picked up my prentiss 58. Welder buddy of mine has it now working on the prentiss crack

[@ahill7099]

NO WAY DID THE SCISSOR JACK bend that vise..that jack would explode before the moved

[@ELNino2001]

Heat should have been the first thing you tried! BUY A TORCH!

[@MalkanaImpex]

Sir, we can make this gloves for you?

[@DimasFajar-ns4vb]

wow

[@gregweber9457]

I have one in perfect condition that’s almost twice as big but doesn’t swivel. Had to use my forklift to put it on it’s forever home two men couldn’t pick it up.

[@rifraf1970]

With your WD40 fortune you should think about getting a torch and a pressure washer.

[@Kami8705]

Pretty sure he has both, I know I've seen him use a pressure washer.

[@ethancossairt7577]

if you want some training on the prototrak i can help

[@kevjo13]

Do you have any videos where you don't talk over the whole video and can hear the tool sounds?

[@MakeEverything]

@@kevjo13 only one

[@mrfnk]

What about that wobble

[@Morrocondo]

68kg

[@TAG77]

Nice video. I’d like it better with less talking and more AMSR, but good job.

[@colinperreault]

is it iron or steel make up your mind, You called it iron at your introduction, If it's iron , you don't peign the fux and stop, you need to expand your weld, if it's just get with it

[@MakeEverything]

It’s made of jellybeans

[@danielgriffith7694]

Mechanic Hint 😱. Use Kroil , not your sponsor 👎It’s Not good penetrant .

[@andreacarbone6366]

So wd-40 Is bad as penetrating oil?

[@Wilett614]

WD 40 Sucks lol I use KROIL works Much Faster and more Effectively . in Addition HEAT up the area around that Frozen Pin ,Its only a tapered in , so you only have to move it a Tiny Fraction to remove the surface area tension !

[@RAMB0DJOHN]

0-4:17 - dude, its a fucking joke, you dont know what is a reverce hammer? what the fuck i just watch? my brain is hurts

[@MakeEverything]

What are you talking about?

[@RAMB0DJOHN]

@@MakeEverything looks like i was right, try to use google for reversed slide hammer, u ll be shocked

[@Omsip123]

I

[@johnguilfoyle3073]

This was difficult to watch. While working on a metal vise with bolt holes, on a welding table with holes, it's constantly slipping around as you work on it. It didn't occur to drop a bolt or a bar to anchor it from sliding. When pulling the greasy dirty slide jaw out, on an old and heavy vise, it might be advisable to have the heavy steel table under it rather than your feet. I think I would have put some wood or metal blocks and wedges in the hole to put force on that pivot pin before wasting time modifying a cheap jack. The jack was being mangled under the force while the pin was sitting where it had been for generations.

[@MakeEverything]

But the jack worked

[@johnguilfoyle3073]

@@MakeEverything If you had beat it with a pencil for three years, that might have worked too.

[@MakeEverything]

@@johnguilfoyle3073 also a good idea

[@nikxohs3925]

in this video a man wrap o cupper wire around his nikel welding rod to weld cast iron. have you use this any time?kzbin.info/www/bejne/m6qVd6SboM2Fgrs

[@MakeEverything]

I’ve never tried that but I will!

[@nikxohs3925]

i believe that cupper gives some flexibility to nikel , so it dont break. in greece we have many welders from east block and they do miracles, so many triks .i had a russian girlfriend, that works like welder in sibiria. she fix for me a broken cast tool, and after 20 years heavy work, is still ok

[@nikxohs3925]

@@MakeEverything one more video about nikel cupper kzbin.info/www/bejne/m37RYmCoo79qiKc

[@nathanscott7910]

Dude you talked the entire video!

[@MakeEverything]

That’s the point

[@ALushPair]

Bro you didnt lift 170 up like that

[@MakeEverything]

Google “Prentiss 22 weight”

[@ALushPair]

@@MakeEverything says 150

[@MakeEverything]

@@ALushPair the Prentiss catalog lists the 22 at 168lbs

[@ALushPair]

@@MakeEverything well I'm probably just jealous you make it look so easy!

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[@LasseD4L]

would be great with a second channel with 0 narration

[@tomnorman5461]

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[@bretts7085]

Wow !! This actually looks like a Vice that i couldn't break !! Beautiful Big Old Vice.

[@mkegadgets4380]

That’s a beautiful vice, you did a wonderful job and the restoration. Just one shop tip, before you clamp in your mill vice, remove the parallels and clean the jaws that side, the top, the bottom, the parallels, and then play some back in there. We could see the part move on you as you were milling. I thought for sure you were part. Take 30 seconds to clean the vice and parallels will save you a lot of time by starting over or a trip to the ER. Look forward to your next video as always.

[@me3333]

I thought my eyes were messing with me, I'm glad I wasn't the only one who saw that

[@scubasteve3293]

That is an awesome vice ! Great job restoring it . 👍🏼😎👍🏼

[@alanarthur-ni3nw]

Yes (I have seen a vise that big). I have a Prentiss 23, and others that are larger. You're lucky you didn't break the swivel jaw pressing up on the pin without clamping the jaw down to the base. Next time if you're going to destroy the pin anyway, center drill it, tap it, thread in a rod, and use a piece of pipe or a socket, some washers and a nut and jack it out that way. And heat of course...

[@HoddToward1995]

Ok boomer

[@JohnSmith-ih9rh]

Great job! That was awesome.

[@MakeEverything]

Thanks for watching!

[@fastj1962]

Three things, first your crafty and I admire that. My Dad used to weld cast iron. It’s a bitch. Lastly don’t think I didn’t see your tidy cat kitty litter bucket. 😂. At what point do you start throwing those out? They are perfect

[@MakeEverything]

@@fastj1962 first rule of kitty litter buckets is, you never throw away a good kitty litter bucket 😉 thanks for watching!!

[@fastj1962]

Never had a cat as an adult but my mom was a cat lady. My wife and I inherited her cats and at one time had 20. lol got that down to 5 and now we have 9. 5 feral cats and they are all nuts. So yeah lots of buckets!

[@fastj1962]

By the way, cut a hole in the side of my house with a kitty door. Put a deck box outside where two kitty liter boxes are with a 120 mm exhaust fan. No kitty liter in my house. Everyone thought I was nuts when I did it. Works flawlessly.

[@joelwarthen1135]

Nice job. The cast welding was interesting. I've been welding cast for about three decades now and I've never seen it done that way. It's good to learn alternative ways to do things so I'm going to put your idea in my back pocket in case I ever need it. My usual method for welding cast is to pre heat the parts to 600F (use a temp stick) and then stick weld it with 3/32" Super Missile Weld, peen with a small air hammer between each pass. After that wrap the part in fire blankets and leave it until the next day. Great videos, keep them coming.

[@myfavoritemartian1]

My Dad had one just like that, it came out of a 1930's vintage metal shop. After he died, my brother in law sold it along with most of his tools.

[@maxq3372]

Awesome, restoration... Well done and thanks😬

[@roberttilleyjr1179]

I have one of those vices and haven't been able to get the pin out . Thanks for this information I wasn't sure how the pin worked .

[@SirHackaL0t.]

It seems the WD-40 didn’t help. So glad you got a sponsorship from them