Hawaii: Part II - A Musical Mystery

[@DaddyCloyster]

This is actually the LEAST famous interpretation. Most fans agree that Variations On A Cloud is the only song that has to do with 9/11 and that the album tells a completely separate story set in the 60s about a man with schizoprenia and/or ptsd who goes insane and kills his wife

[@beetlebat]

@@DaddyCloyster I’ve heard that one too

[@TransGirlIzzy]

I’ve heard people saying that he didn’t kill his wife, his wife was actuall just his girlfriend. He didn’t killhis gf, but the evidence was stacked against him so he plead insanity to hopefully have less of a punishment, but then went actually insane from shock therapy and tried to return to where he came from on a boat, but he’s lost and “is alone at the edge of a universe humming a tune”

[@DaddyCloyster]

@@TransGirlIzzy That interpretation is popular, but not accurate. I believe it's popular because people *want* the protagonist of the story to be a good person, but it just isn't the case. 1. White Ball is about their wedding 2. Throughout all the songs before Murders there are moments where there are details of the man acting strangely.

[@DaddyCloyster]

@@TransGirlIzzy If you want further or more detailed information on this, check out the videos on it by LuxyHugs

[@Child_murderer]

until i heard about the 911 thing i thought variations on cloud was about suicide and the schizophrenic guy realizing what he done so hes jumping of a building.

[@Jeremy_CBCX]

I was part of the Hawaii Part X project and my jaw dropped when my submission was shown in the video lol

[@beetlebat]

I had to show love yall, did some great work

[@ObamaTron]

"Isle Upon Thyself" "The Time Electric" "Variants on a Cloud" "Ross Feederman" "Joe Houley" "My Mind Electric" "Hawai Party" 💀💀💀

[@beetlebat]

i’m great with words if you couldn’t tell

[@andreagrennan4800]

Bro Is falling for the comment bait👻💀☠️ and I can't even pretend to be any better actually since I'm commenting but uh uh nuh uh skibidi Fortnite gyatt👻💀☠️

[@senbonzakura410]

​@@andreagrennan4800are you ok

[@ccheeseington]

​@@senbonzakura410i think he needs grassy

[@ThatJirachiKid]

"Space Station Module 7"

[@rotgobbler]

"idiot" - Miracle Musical 2024

[@beetlebat]

i got cooked ☠️

[@accountrandomnumber182]

​@@beetlebatgood

[@Cybersparrow]

I’m confused did they call him an idiot

[@JustSomeoneHi]

wait what

[@Surepeacooler]

How are you pronouncing everything wrong 😭

[@beetlebat]

AINT NO WAYYY

[@Surepeacooler]

@@beetlebat Isle unto thyself and bora karaca would disagree

[@ThomasZookison]

I believe that the 911 references in the album is to represent how the girl died and then the boy just how one tower fell and then the other

[@beetlebat]

@@ThomasZookison I can see that

[@MarzyWu]

We getting sent to the infirmary with this one‼️🗣️🗣️🔥🔥 but being serious, i loved this video and keep up the good work !!

[@beetlebat]

Glad you enjoyed it haha

[@Rivers_TG]

I really want to see Hawii Part II become some sort of live musical some day, I'd pay more than I did to see Hamilton just to see it! It possibly won't be possible, but it would be cool to see:)

[@MinaWalker]

Anything’s possible

[@Kingfatbear]

I seen a Reddit post that was sad af, someone got miracle musicals permission to do Hawaii II as a musical at their school and then Covid hit

[@beetlebat]

I would totally watch that

[@Zestypumpkin821]

@@MinaWalkerhi

[@MinaWalker]

@@Zestypumpkin821 aloha

[@MoonIsrathersilly]

I really like your theories. And Im glad you enjoyed the album. Its has such wide variety of themes and genres, probably my favorite part about it is how it leaves room for a lot of interpretations.

[@beetlebat]

It could literally be about ten different things

[@SnailTheNail]

I love the sudden break to listen to the Alvin and the Chipmunks. This was such a crazy and cool analysis, even if I feel like it's a lot of grasping at straws and over analyzing. But it's so cool that Hawaii: Part II is so filled with story and mystery that something like this video can be made. I think this is by far the best attempt to explain both the confirmed 9/11 themes in the album while also not forgetting the very obvious love story in the album.

[@sunshooterd7226]

I'm not afraid to ssy that this is one of the best albums ever. Joe hawley is not from this planet.

[@beetlebat]

he’s an alien

[@sillylittledrummer]

I would have to agree, it’s just so strange but so beautiful at the same time

[@Eaghan_Bester]

@@beetlebathe is in space (Joe Hawley reference)

[@ASTRO_BLOX890]

@@Eaghan_BesterSo Thats why The hiatus is happening

[@swop6750]

I love the many different ways that this album can be interpreted, i don't really like your theory all that much but it's really cool that you could find a way to see the story like this even if i don't agree

[@beetlebat]

@@swop6750 of course we agree to disagree

[@kyleejones8902]

Thanks for interpreting this album! I recently stumbled upon it and fell in love but couldn't pull the story apart on my own

[@beetlebat]

It’s a complicated album

[@DaddyCloyster]

Funnily enough, this is actually the LEAST famous interpretation. Most fans agree that Variations On A Cloud is the only song that has to do with 9/11 and that the album tells a completely separate story set in the 60s about a man with schizoprenia and/or ptsd who goes insane and kills his wife

[@-._.ETHAN._.-]

this is making me more and more tempted to write my own analysis

[@beetlebat]

@@-._.ETHAN._.- Go on

[@-._.ETHAN._.-]

@@beetlebat Motivation 💔

[@accountrandomnumber182]

Nah I agree with joe this video was brainrot

[@survid2]

Check out Chonny Jash if you like Tally Hall & Miracle Musical

[@beetlebat]

he’s that cover guy!

[@enetrixsalt3491]

@@beetlebat that cover guy.. ;-;

[@WD_RatLad]

6:39 THE TIME ELECTRIC?

[@beetlebat]

LOL i meant "Mind" my brain crapped itself there

[@WD_RatLad]

@@beetlebat there's also "variants on a cloud" lol

[@number2869]

here’s the correct pronunciations Joe= Joe Hall E Rob= Rob Cantour Zubin= ZooBin saidGee Ross= Ross Fed er men Andrew= &rew Horr oh witz Bora= Bore uh Car Rah Juh (I think that’s correct, idk bc I’ve always pronounce it Kuh rock uh so..) I hope this helps? LMK if you want more pronunciations lol (also holy crap, I’m not the only Catholic tally hall fan?)

[@beetlebat]

Thank you so much, also what up catholic brother!

[@number2869]

@@beetlebat your welcome! I really hope this helped lol 😭

[@ya_boi_chrish]

Also "SaidGee" as in the pronunciation of the letter "J" (basically just how you pronounced it in this video)

[@l2amzx]

YYAYY!!!!!!!!!! the 12th anniversy FEEDERMAN of hawaii part 2 is soo and itll b so fun if something cool happens! theres also a hpii game!

[@halfsine]

16:22 guys, i think i might have a theory

[@beetlebat]

ALVINN

[@jooree7696]

Ah yes, Brad's kryptonite (also somehow one of my favourite albums)

[@beetlebat]

THEATRECORE NOOOO

[@jooree7696]

​@@beetlebatTbf i was a theater kid

[@therealnotdaryll]

The Labyrinth game is available on Internet Archive

[@beetlebat]

@@therealnotdaryll oh shoot i might have to check it out

[@gavinloewe3647]

If you were going to do another Tally Hall video or just want to listen to more of their music. I would suggest either Sketches 3D by Edu (the name Andrew released music under) or Cojum Dip by Cojum Dip (Bora’s band). While there is anything made by a member of Tally Hall that lives up to the greatness of MMMM, G&E, or Hawaii pt. II imo, those are my favorite post TH projects. Sketches 3D is a great relaxing album despite its slightly disturbing production. Andrew described it best as intimate and I wholeheartedly agree. The song Hummingbird is one of my favorite songs of all time and has really helped me deal with things like anxiety. Cojum Dip is a surprisingly great fusion of Metal and Jazz. The biggest fault of the album is that the music is definitely meant to be seen performed live so listening to a recorded version of it is really only half of the experience. Best song from it is called Moon Waltz. As for the other two post TH projects, Joe Hawley Joe Hawley by Joe Hawley definitely has some highlights but the rapping isn’t the best and it has one or two songs that I would straight up call mid or just bad. The use of sampling is very unique though and it’s for sure worth a listen. Rob Cantor’s Not a Trampoline has its fans and I will say that I do always enjoy it more while I’m listening but it’s just good. Production wise, you can tell that it was an album made in the 2010s and not always in the best ways. Definitely worth a try though.

[@beetlebat]

Damn, I’ll see what that’s about

[@KodyaRose]

Hey! I love this theory and it makes so much sense, but I prefer the “other” theory. I know I’m just one guy, but I would love to hear your opinion on the other theory about the album. I won’t spoil too much but the other theory suggests that it isn’t about 9/11 and has a bit more story to it.

[@beetlebat]

@@KodyaRose Maybe one day

[@omegadragons321]

11:25 what are you talking about? ive never noticed that and ive listened to it about 100 times over a couple years

[@beetlebat]

@@omegadragons321 That’s just what I noticed about it

[@elijahyoung8172]

You should totally do an episode on dinosaurchestra by lemon demon, it’s great and similar to Marvin’s Marvelous mechanical museum

[@beetlebat]

Will be tackling their discography eventually!

[@elijahyoung8172]

@@beetlebat AWESOME!

[@PenguinPoo4246]

Good video. Man. There are so many interpretations to this album

[@beetlebat]

So many layers

[@waffleboy474]

Great video :) Can you tell me where you found the spreadsheet thing at 12:52? I’ve been looking for sample sources in TME and have found a new source + 2 other samples from known sources that i’ve never seen mentioned before, and that spreadsheet has a source listed I hadn’t heard of before and it could help me find more stuff

[@beetlebat]

Got ya, found it on TME wiki page docs.google.com/document/d/1RL94hK29IiXaCUcbBleyN0S_g55OPdRzvfiLhkun3sA/edit

[@waffleboy474]

@@beetlebat tysm :)

[@Eliwashere101]

what time era is Hawaii part II set in I'm so confused and Im trying to write the script for the musical

[@beetlebat]

@@Eliwashere101 I’d guess 2001

[@Eliwashere101]

@@beetlebat thanks bro

[@matruenthusiast]

HELP WEREN’T YOU THE PERSON THAT JOE CALLED AN IDIOT ON TWITTER???? LMAO HI THIS VIDEO IS GREAT

[@beetlebat]

That was me!

[@project_letters]

​@@beetlebat Was he joking or?

[@thezubler]

​@@project_lettersconsidering joe's mental state, i don't think he's the type of guy to jokingly call one of his fans an idiot

[@ratfoot..]

what’s the context😭

[@itsquackergaming2724]

im confused, why did they even block you on twitter?

[@beetlebat]

Making a video I guess

[@itsquackergaming2724]

@@beetlebat nah bro ig you just "weren't big brain enough to understand the complicated philosophical meaning behind the album ☝️🤓"

[@douwantabanana]

new tally hall side project confirmed btw

[@beetlebat]

LETS GOOO

[@batatobola-6311]

WHAT

[@madixjensen7070]

what when tell me more

[@Linnnaeus]

WHAT

[@mr.unkown-xk7pj]

i love how many possible theory that can be made on this album, i mean, i wasn't expected for a theory about 9/11 to make sense but i guess i was wrong

[@beetlebat]

Joe Hawley is a weird mastermind

[@e-and_]

i will never get that reply out of my head

[@beetlebat]

@@e-and_ it haunts me every night

[@e-and_]

@@beetlebat Yeah if Joe Hawley called me an idiot I'd probably be shaken up too lmao

[@thewoodpeckers655]

You pronounced all the names right, except for Joe Hawley, it’s pronounced more Hall-E in the same way as Tally Hall

[@beetlebat]

Got it

[@project_letters]

No he didn't? Fed-er-man not feed-er-man and kah-rah-jah not kah-rah-cha

[@number2869]

@@project_lettersisn’t it Kuh Rock uh NVMM M

[@f1rm460]

did we listen to the same album????

[@RuhCay]

"then fell below" i think this line means the half of the tower falling down and killing them as you said and in the song mind electric when the song was reversed you can hear a really muffled talking and that refers to the coma you said the talking is at the 16th second

[@beetlebat]

@@RuhCay Yeah that makes sense

[@StealthViper212]

This is definitely an interpretation

[@beetlebat]

yes it is

[@snes1990]

God the 9/11 thing really throws people off but 9/11 is only truly references in variations on a cloud.

[@ATV0222]

3:37 damn using a grian screenshot and not crediting it?

[@marsexplosion]

so excited to watch a new miracle musical video, only to get hit with the GRIAN JUMPSCARE???? 3:37

[@beetlebat]

Bahahahaha

[@DHMISFunniMan]

Ok, im gonna do this real quick. Ross: (ross)-fehder)men). Andrew: (aendriw) (horowitsz) Rob! (Rob) (cahntour) Joe: (joe) (hah)(lee) And you did zubin mostly fine.

[@iamsprtn]

Wait so you got blocked? What happened? Also I love this theory by the way

[@beetlebat]

@@iamsprtn Joe Hawley got mad ig

[@iamsprtn]

@@beetlebat at what

[@Linnnaeus]

Why is no one providing context in the comments. What happened

[@Frikpro8000]

I love existential crisis😊😊

[@beetlebat]

@@Frikpro8000 same

[@Artificial_Idiot]

11:09 it is, not because of infidelity, more like an urge or something

[@beetlebat]

That’s fair

[@Mr.Lyric-Boy]

6:39 the MIND electric!!! 💀💀💀 you keep mixing up Time Machine and the mind electric!

[@Roll_dude]

DO A REVIEW OF TALLY HALLS DEMO ALBUMS PLS

[@beetlebat]

I'll take a look!

[@StreetCut-1]

variations on the cloud is is another album hawaii part two isnt about 911 imo, variations on a cloud is. miracle musical is a song artist

[@GM_enderman22]

Are you ever going to review Joe Hawley Joe Hawley?

[@migueloliveiracordal5407]

Miracle hall Tally musical

[@beetlebat]

Joe Hawley Joe Hawley

[@Amphibian42]

di bro just fucking say that tallky hall wouldn't be popular without tiktok ☠

[@JustSomeoneHi]

0:26 you were _so_ close

[@beetlebat]

oof

[@straw_eater]

you pronounced them wrong 😥

[@beetlebat]

Damn

[@VurtialRoblox]

I think this theory is awesome! I have my little own theory, so if you wanna see it. Click read more Simon and his girlfriend were doing normal until murders, Simon and his girlfriend were in the forest, and the figure murders his girlfriend. In space station level seven, this is his girlfriend going to heaven. Next is my personal favorite, Mind Electric. This takes place when the police show up to the crime scene and think Simon caused the murder, they send him in to shock therapy, leading to the last quarter of the song. Also, I think that the first half of his song is his mind filled with grief, so he can’t think straight. Labyrinth is a special case, he is in a dream, and trying to escape the prison he is in. And when he sees his lover, he wakes up. Leading to Time Machine, I think this is him breaking out of this prison and when he escapes, it leads to the outro, just like mind electric his mind is fogged up and he can’t think straight. On Stranded Lullaby, I think this would be him in a boat, escaping to a far away place, and he looks up to his lover being alone in heaven, and the voice is him being sleep deprived and tired from the shock therapy, the next track his him just at sea with him thinking it is all his thought. Bringing us to the last track, the boat sinks in and he goes to heaven, reuniting with his lover.

[@beetlebat]

@@VurtialRoblox This is pretty neat! Love how this weird album can draw out so many conclusions

[@VurtialRoblox]

@@beetlebat Thanks! I’ve been seeing so much conclusions and theory’s about this weird album (not in a bad way)

[@crreamuu]

Bro just pronounced it Joe HOUley

[@beetlebat]

trust me i pronounce it better now haha

[@abbexx4283]

hi reddit :)

[@beetlebat]

good site

[@chipklip2]

@@beetlebat No

[@subpng]

me-da-koo-doo mee-oo-jee-ka-doo (don't butcher it) mi-ra-ku-ru myu-ji-ka-ru

[@daniishere360]

I personally am not too big of a fan of Hawaii part II, I don't know why, I love the og 2 tally hall albums, but I guess I like music that's nice to my ears, ya know, nothing against anyone who worked on it, but it's just not my cup of tea, ya know =/

[@beetlebat]

I get it, definitely more experimental

[@daniishere360]

@@beetlebat yea, but I still appreciate the effort, and the more melodic songs like the last one and the end of the mind electric were pretty good ^w^

[@daniishere360]

@@beetlebat I have no fucking clue what I was on,It's amazing

[@TikSkygd]

First

[@beetlebat]

Congrats

[@TikSkygd]

@@beetlebatthis absolutely bleeds with sarcasm and I love it

[@Daragonal]

A *what* musical mystery? 9/11?

[@beetlebat]

Yes indeed

[@私はマーリンです]

howl i

[@0.Hedge.0]

Second:)

[@beetlebat]

congrats number two