Hazrat Ali (ra) aur Ameer Muawiya (ra) Ka Ikhtilaf - Part 7 - Javed Ahmad Ghamidi

Hazrat Ali (ra) aur Ameer Muawiya (ra) Ka Ikhtilaf - Part 7 - Javed Ahmad Ghamidi
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حضرت علی ؓ اور امیر معاویہ ؓ، اختلافات کو سمجھنے کا ایک منفرد زاویہ
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[@NaeemZarrar]

عدل کے ساتھ علمی و منطقی قطعیت ایک معجزانہ خوبی ھے، لیکن اِس کے ساتھ اگر دیانتدارانہ جرآتِ اظہار کا ملکہ و حوصلہ نہ ہو تو یہ جواہر دفینے میں ہی پڑے رائگاں جاتے ہیں۔ اللہ کا شکر ھے کہ غامدی صاحب میں یہ دونوں وصف کمال کی حد تک موجود ہیں اور میں اِسے کارِ قدرت سمجھتا ہوں کہ وہ اپنی عمر کے اِس حصے میں وہاں قیام پذیر ہیں کہ جہاں یہ دفینہ اب طشت ازبام ہونے سے کوئی روک نہیں سکتا۔ یہ محض اتفاق کی بات نہیں ھے۔ اللہ پاک مزید ہمت عطا کرے۔

[@khurrarmabbas2998]

Last lines of host are ❤️❤️❤️❤️ بادشاہ ہی نامزد کرنا تھا تو آل محمد (نواسہ رسول) پہ نگاہ کیوں نہ پڑی؟؟؟؟ اپنا نا اہل لاڈلا ہی کیوں نظر آیا؟؟؟

[@Observer195]

پہنچی وہیں پہ خاک جہاں کا خمیر تھا

[@osamamalik5288]

پروردگار نے اس شخص کو کیا کمال عطاء کیا ہے معاملات کو سمجھ نے کا یہ صرف اللہ کا انعام ہے اور وہی شخص اس قدر حساس موضوع پر دیانت داری سے بات کر سکتا ہے جس پر اللہ کا خصوصی کرم ہو. سالوں سے دماغ میں موجود شبہات کا خاتمہ ہوا. اللہ پاک آپ کو صحت کے ساتھ لمبی عمر عطا فرمائے. آمین

[@Observer195]

اگر آپ بخاری و مسلم کو معتبر مانتے ہیں تو غیر جانبداری سے اس بارے میں احادیث کا مطا لعہ کر لیں تو حقیقت واضح ہو جائے گی۔

[@nausheenkashif3016]

Yeh hamari khush naseebi hay aur Allah ka ahsaan hay , k hum Ghamidi Sahab ki ilmi tadabur ka faida utha saktay han...

[@rashidqasmi8173]

مجدد وقت

[@AsifMalik-it4hd]

Jb Hazrat Ameer Muaviya RA k samnay Hazrat Ammar bin Yasir ka sar kaat kr laya gia or ye hadees b un ko pohnch chuki thi k ammar ko ek baghi jamat qatal kre gi to us waqt woh smjh jate k un se khata ho gai hy woh ghlat rasty per hen,lekin ammar bin yasir ki shahadat per un k ye alfaaz k , na Ali RA ammar ko jang mai le kr ata na ammar hmaray hatho gatal hota, in alfaaz k bad agr ghamidi sb Muaviya RA ko clean chit de rhe hen to mazrat k sath ghamidi sb tareekh k sath na insaafi kr rhe hen, is mamlay ko chor kr ghamidi sb boht aala fehm rakhne wale aalam e deen hen no doubt,

[@mrak9418]

@@rashidqasmi8173 Aap Ne Apne Aap Ko Qasmi kiyun Likha Hai? Bataenge

[@areh3756]

JazakAllah

[@khawajausmannadeem]

I was the admirer of Ghamidi sb, but not anymore after hearing this. How can you justify the act of Kharooj against hazrat Ali. And worse of all appointing yazeed as the khalifa.

[@sameer-111]

Anymore? Reject or disagree with a point but how do you decide to follow or unfollow just by one point.

[@SheikhUsman545]

he is not justifying he is perfectly explaining the scenario

[@nasreensiddiqui3107]

Jazak Allah khairan kaseera 💐🇵🇰🤲

[@GG-ft1bf]

GG (Great Ghamidi). Teacher of teachers. Hero of heroes. Wing of wisdom. Ocean of knowledge. The best philosopher, theologian, educationist, researcher, critical thinker, Mujaddid-e-Islam. Love you Ustad-e-Mohtaram.

[@Shah_hssn]

JazakAllah brother

[@syedaamir8336]

Kuch ziada nhi ho gia

[@nausheenkashif3016]

Ghamidi Sahab Dil ka sakoon aur Aankhon ki thandak han... Allah inki azeem khidmaat k badlay in ko Ajar e khair ataa kren.... Ameen

[@shariqhussain6767]

Yahan comment me ghamidi ki tareefon k pull baandhny walo se mera sawal hai Ke Hazraty Hussain r,a ne kia in siyasi muamlaat ko nahe smjha tha? Kia ghamidi Hussain Ibne Ali se behtr Islam ko smjha hai ?

[@mboy1988]

Sari baat he yahe hai k humney Alay Bait ko samaja he nahe, un k samney ju bhi aya wo batil he tha. Alay Bait k baray mai ketni hadees hain. Jannat k sardar Hain Imam Hassan aur Imam Hussain, un k samnay ju bhi aeyga wo kaisay haq pay hosakhta hai.

[@zarrarahmad5191]

Waah yar kya kamal ka sawal pochha hai. Lajawab krdiya sabko

[@ahmadn.5199]

Video starts from 19:00 You're welcome

[@mohammadomarkhan2610]

I am following this series of videos [Hazrar Ali (ra) aur Hazrat Ameer Muawiya (ra) Ka Ikhtilaf] from day one. And I have no doubt in saying that it is opening new windows of vision and understanding for me. Jazaka'Allah Khair for bringing this, Sir Ghamidi and Hassan Bhai. Having said that, I have one suggestion regarding this series of videos. I think, there is a need to include the major historical references of this entire era (that are being quoted in the books of Sunni and Shia sects) and discuss them one by one. This can be done in the same way you have committed to discuss the Hadees about the martyrdom of Hazrat Ammar Bin Yasir (ra) in separate video. Because all these major historical references are the source of information (and disinformation) that has made us understand the most sensitive part of Islamic history. This series is lacking in this aspect, in my humble opinion , and should address it. Stay blessed.

[@muhammadtalha3573]

Sahih Muslim ke us hadeees ka kya jawab dain ge.. jis main likha hai ke yazeed ki bait zabardasti karwae gae the ameer muawiyya r.a ki taraf se...... Asal main ghamido sahab quran aur hadees ke mun main apna luqma daalte hain.. naozobillah.... Apni marzi ke hadeesein le kar khud bhi gumrah hain aur auron ko bhi kar rahe hain

[@mahmoodshahofficial]

he is not opening new way but confusing about Islamic history by describing his opinion totally opposite the true teaching of Hazrat Muhammad SAW and khulfa e Rashid decision , by accepting this opionon we never struggle for dominating Islam

[@taimurahmad8430]

میری طرف سے اس سریز کے بعد بھائی علی مرزا ٹاٹا بائے بائے.

[@Masoodkhalid41299]

G buhat gumrah krta hai apni kam ilmi ki waja se, Allah Pak hum sab ko hidaiyat de!

[@ThKh]

@@Masoodkhalid41299 bilkul jaisy Maulana Ishaq kerty rahy na ? enki discussions mei sy apko kitni ahadees k hawaly mily hein ? tu matlab bukhari muslim hanbal sb jhak marty rahy na en mozuaat per jo jama kerty rahy aur aj 1400 sal bad ye aqd en per khula

[@absarahmad4943]

yazeed ko hukmran bna kr ummat ko laraee se bachaya mgr khud Mola Ali ki bait nae ki...us waqt wo aqal r gair mamoli zahant kdhr thi....

[@Papa-ft6jc]

Hazrat usman ki shahadat ka mutalba na krte?

[@ubaidanwer8122]

@@Papa-ft6jc Bilkul krtay lekin party bana kr khalifa brhaq k khilaf ana ye bagawat thi

[@mohsinmushtaq1724]

@@ubaidanwer8122 mry bhai aap Hadees ko agr ghour sy research kro Tou aap k hosh urrrr jaenn gyyy Isss Hadees ko sahih kehna thk Lekin issska matan ka masala hx

[@CheemaAMC1979]

جتنے خوبصورت انداز میں غامدی صاحب نے اس موضوع کا احاطہ کیا ہے ، شاید ہی کسی اور نے کیا ہو۔ یہ فرق ہوتا ہے ایک سکالر میں اور ایک گلی کے ٹچے ( مرزا جہلم والا) میں جو یوٹیوب پر لوگوں کی پگڑیاں اچھال کے لونڈے لپاڑوں سے لائکس وصول کرتا ہے۔

[@mukhtiarahmedmukhtiarahmed8807]

Allah Pak apko sallamt rakhye shaht tondrasti jaazayee kheir lambi Umar ata frmaye Aameen ya rabuollalameen jaazak Allah kheir

[@muhammadtariq3180]

حسن الیاس صاحب بہت اہم موضوع پر آپ یہ نشتیں کررہے ہیں۔ جزاک اللہ۔ ایک سوال یہ بھی کیجیے گا غامدی صاحب سے کہ یہ بات کہ سیدنا معاویہ کے دور میں سیدنا علی پر منبروں سے سب وشتم کیا جاتا تھا، کس حد تک درست ہے۔ اور یہ کہ کیا تاریخ کی اہم کتب کس حد تک قابل اعتماد ہیں۔ اور یہ کہ اگر ان کتابوں میں بھی رطب ویابس موجود ہے توکیا غامدی صاحب یا ان کا ادارہ کوٸ اچھی کتاب مرتب کرے گا۔ والسلام

[@Aliraza-fz4pp]

Hadees ma b ha jenab

[@muhammadtariq3180]

@@Aliraza-fz4pp شکریہ۔ ہاں غامدی صاحب ان اخبار آحاد پر بھی راۓ دیں۔

[@AWAZEHAQ]

Mera Ali haq hai mera Hussain haq hai tum kab tak unke mukhalifo ka difa Karoge

[@fawukhan]

I consider Ghamdi sahab as my mohsin. I got a clear vision of Islam thru him. BUT i dont think i am in agreement with this historical discussion. Isnt it true that banu ummaya wanted to keep the kingdom (khilafat) in their family ? And didnt this action resulted in dividing the religion in two sects (shia sunni). I failed to see the wisdom in this decision.

[@sardarzadamohammadyunussah4273]

غامدی صاحب کیا بات ہے آپکے علم و دانش کی۔۔۔۔ہم تو بس سر ہی دھنتے جا رہے ہیں ۔۔۔جزاک اللہ خیرا کثیرا ۔۔۔۔ابہام کا خاتمہ ہو رہا ہے۔۔۔

[@NSNCNB]

Truly he is GG ... great Ghamdi... Masha Allah

[@rajasulehria..3770]

درست اور متوازن رائے ہے.

[@UmarFarooq-vp6mm]

Hazrat Muawiya k Faisle se SALTANAT Kaise bach gai ? Saltanat mein Barbadi to Shuru he es Faisle se hui... Totally Not Agree on this Point of Ghamdi Sab

[@muhammadasjad7463]

Dear ghamdi saab. Accepting the taghalab would mean accepting anything that comes through force. So where do all the moral values and principals stand? Where will all the conquest for truth and justice will go? Where does even the religion stand if we accept anyone that comes with force? So tomorrow indian forces occupy pakistan, should we all Pakistanis accept that occupation? How can some one even struggle for anything if your concept of taghalib is to be taken. Has God created its creations for wolves and barbaric animals?? And you are a learned person, how can you deny that the sword unsheated by Hazrat Myawiyah ( RA) was never sheathed afterwards and this way of taking throne by muscles shattered very basics of islam and drank blood of millions of people

[@junaidiqbal5802]

SubhanAllah! I am so proud that I speak and understand the Urdu language. I wish somebody can verbally translate Ustad e Mohtaram Ghamidi's lecture in Arabic, English, and Spanish.

[@nausheenkashif3016]

We desperately want this knowledge to be transferred to our English Speaking kids and other Muslim brothers and sisters

[@extraorchidinary6347]

The biggest corpus of islamic studies is in Arabic Urdu and persian. Once ghamdi sahab said that learning these languages will help in understanding Islam.

[@malikasadrashid2664]

See subtitles

[@sheheryaramer3566]

I think everyone in the comments needs to exercise some patience. Ghamidi saab has just created a background by explaining this principle of how sometimes 'mutaghalib' is accepted and resistance is discontinued. I see people trying to be a step ahead of him and calling him 'ibn e yazeed' and what not. He has not concluded the answer yet.

[@janmengal6450]

پہلی دفعہ حضرت امام حسن رضی اللہ و عنہ نے خانہ جنگی سے بچایا اور دوسری دفعہ حضرت امیر معاویہ رضی اللہ عنہ نے

[@syedhasnainahmed9097]

A true advocacy of dictatorship bravo ghamdi sb the great u should be given S M Zaffer award

[@mumtazali3634]

کیا مشرف دور میں آپ نے بغاوت کی تھی؟

[@taimurahmad8430]

@@mumtazali3634 syed Musharraf bolyn

[@NabeelAhmed-od4mo]

"Hakomat ki is sy badtareen shakal koi nahi ho skti" That's what he said about DICTATORSHIP.

[@mohammedtoseefansari240]

thats a knee-jerk reaction @syed hasnain Ahmed because the outcome is disliked.....unfortunately JAG sahab has been painstakingly explaining that the dynamics were such that it was the best available option. Good and bad are not absolute in and of themselves, they are circumstance dependent. Its evil to kill someone, but not evil to hang a serial killer. Its noble to have the most God-fearing person rule over us, but when the risk of dissent and anarchy is very high, then a poorer alternative is the better option. No doctor will prescribe a drug that kills your body's immunity, but when the body's immunity is in overdrive, that is the best available option bro. That is how I understood the message in this video.

[@kanwaraqeelakhtar9859]

حضرت امیر معاویہ رض۔۔۔عالم اسلام کے محسن جنہوں نے امن استحکام خوشحالی عطا کی

[@mohammadahad8787]

I am so sorry to say that this time Ghamidi Sahab got it wrong. I admire Ghamidi Sahab for his understanding of Deen and I’ve learned a lot from him, however, on this topic he doesn’t sound convincing at all. May Allah SWT forgive our mistakes and protect us from defending something which is supposed to be condemned. We shouldn’t attack the intention of Sahaba but should at least manifest the wrong decisions made at that time. Nobody is perfect except Allah SWT. There shouldn’t be any shame to accept the faults made in history so that the Ummah can learn some lessons from it and take correct decisions in future.

[@neemhakeem9455]

Let it be completed bro, ghamdi sahib ka bht umdah andaz Hai k jab ksi ka point of view byan krte hain tu us darjy mein krte hain k shyd woh khud itna umdah na byan ker ske, Lakin conclusion aur critical analysis ghamdi sab akhri bat mein dete hain. Be patience, let's complete this series with open eyes n mind.

[@muhammadmasoomkakar1538]

Ahad, you have mentioned exactly what I feel as well. I have been listening to ghamidi sb since a long time however, I have never felt like this before. In this topic ghamidi sb is not at all convincing and it seems that he is trying very hard to defend something which should not be defended. May Allah guide us to the right path.

[@muhammad.nawaz2023]

Great argument based upon proof and logic. May God bless you!

[@saadullahkhan1509]

Kerte Hein gulamon ko gulami pe razamand , Taweel e masail ko banate Hein bahana .

[@Shahrukhali]

We need a reply from engineer Mohammed Ali.... As Ghamidi Sahab Said 2 kitaben agy rakh k baten krta hai

[@dgreen9653]

Engineer mirza has closed his shop

[@mubashirjutt785]

Change your perspective regarding yazeed it is causing havoc among your followers

[@naveedtariq337]

کمال زاویہ سے ان معاملات کو ڈسکس کر رہے ہیں جاوید صاحب، اللّہ انھیں لمبی عمر اور صحت وسلامتی عطا فرمائیں۔

[@shakak76]

very disappointed with the analysis unfortunately by ustad muhtarim, that implies we should cide and not raise voice or fight against dictatorship as otherwise there would be civil strife as many sahaba at that time avoided, but what happened afterwards eventually they were brutally murdered and women raped in Harra (madina munawarra, the city of rasul ullah SAW) were there lives saved, or did they live comfortably unless one sides with the Ummayads, you were going to be on their hitlist! Even Ummul momineen Ayesha RA was a big critic of him and his governors

[@umermaqsood3486]

An eye opener analysis and its a very bitter réality for muslims. .u can relate it to pakistan where a powerful and rich politicion wins against a honest loyal and brillant commen man.

[@malikfahdaliawan178]

Ghamidi Sahab ko Khuda sehat ata kary.. in k sochny samjhny ka andaz kahan se layen gy.. MashAllah bohat ilmi guftagu..

[@muhammadkamrankhan7163]

سبحان اللہ سبحان اللہ اللہ پاک آپ دونوں کو جزائے خیر عطا فرمائے۔ صدیوں پر محیط مسلمانوں میں سرایت اس ناسور پر چڑھی ہماری جہالت کی دبیز تہوں کو آپ نے جس طرح اتار پھینکا ہے یہ اللہ پاک کا ہم پر خاص کرم ہے۔ شکر الحمداللہ

[@nawaz1779]

استاد محترم سے بہت ادب سے شدید اختلاف کرتا ہوں اور خاص طور پر معاویہ رض کو امت کا محسن قرار دینے پر دل بہت دُکھی ہوا۔ قسط نمبر ۶ میں جس معاہدے کا ذکر کیا تھا آپ نے اس کی ایک شق یہ تھی کہ معاویہ رض اپنی موت کے وقت امت کو اپنا امیر خود چننے کے لیے چھوڑ جائیں گے ناکہ اپنا بیٹا نامزد کر کے جائیں گے۔ بۂرحال آپ جیسے بڑے استاد سے یہ سب کچھ سن کر بہت افسوس ہوا

[@AbdulMateenShikrani]

Array ap jaysay eyewitness aur bukhari ki riwayat sunnah Hassan per uskay BAAD yay batain ghamdi SB ki Dil to tootay GA na bhai.ap engineer Mirza ko sunna kerain Dil jur ja ay ga.4 kitabain agay Rakh Kay biyan keray ga wo

[@walidost2105]

دنیا میں اس وقت آپ علم کے بلند ترین مقام پر ہیں شاہ ولی اللہ اور مولانا عبیداللہ سندھی کی حکمت کوخوب حکمت سے بیان کرتےہیں اس وقت دینی علم کے حکیم ہیں

[@ZafarBhattiOfficial]

Aoa , may Allah bless you both a lot , remain safe and happy .

[@sardarzadamohammadyunussah4273]

Waiting for part 8 very anxiously...pls.

[@mariamaryum4129]

Jaxak Allah ustad e mohtaram :-)

[@abdulgaffargoolamfareed7174]

Brother. I notice that you are ASSUMING the intentions of mu'awiya ra. Kindly inform us as to on what basis/evidence you are making this assumption.

[@mukhtiarahmedmukhtiarahmed8807]

Masha Allah subhan Allah Allah Pak ka bohat Bada ahssan h k umateee Mohamedi me ustajh Jesi shaksiyat h Jo umat ko gomrahi se bachane ki srtoorr kosish me h

[@xaighamxaigham6356]

غامدی صاحب آپ نماز وضو اور دیگر بے شمار ایسے موضوعات پر ضرور گفتگو کریں مولا علی اور اہل بیت کے متعلق گفتگو مت کریں کیونکہ اس طرح آپ ظالموں کے دفاع میں دشمنان اہل بیت میں شامل ہو جاتے ہیں۔ اور آپ کا بغض اور اہل بیت کے خلاف نفرت آشکار ہوتی ہے۔یہ موضوع آپ سے پہلے بھی سینکڑوں سال سے زیر بحث رہا ہے مگر حقایق تبدیل نہیں کیے جا سکتے ۔ اگر عایشہ زبیر طلحہ مروان معاویہ مولا علی کے خلاف لڑتے ہی رہے تو حق و باطل میں تصادم تو سدا رہا ہےآپ کو کیا تکلیف ہے۔ حق ہمیشہ مولا علی کے ہمراہ رہا۔ اہلسنت والجماعت دشمنان اہل بیت حکمرانوں نے اس لیے تشکیل دی کہ مولا علی اور ان کی آل کے ذکر کو ختم کر سکے مگر یاد رکھنا کہ کاینات کا دل اس لیے دھڑکتا ہے کہ اسے جاننشین رسول اکرم بلا فصل مولا علی کی تاہید و نصرت حاصل ہے ۔وقت کے ساتھ ساتھ غاضبوں، ظالموں، بدعنوانوں، قاتلوں اور کاذبوں کے کرتوت آشکار ہو رہے ہیں آپ لوگوں کی کاذبانہ اور متعصبانہ تاویلات معدوم و منہدم ہو جاہیں گی۔

[@Observer195]

غامدی صاحب حضرت معاویہؓ کی حکومت کے جواز میں صلح حسن پیش کرتے ہیں لیکن یزید کی نامزدگی کے وقت صلح حسن کی شرائط بھول جاتے ہیں۔ کیا غامدی صاحب اور حضرت معاویہؓ کے نزدیک نواسہ رسول ﷺ اس لا ئق ھے کہ اس سے کئے ہوئے معاہدے پر عمل کیا جائے یا پھر یکسر بھلا دیا جائے اور ردی کی ٹوکری میں پھینک دیا جائے؟؟؟ یزید کی نامزدگی کا جواز یہ پیش کرتے ہیں کہ کیونکہ کوئی شوریٰ کے اہل اکابر موجود نہیں لہذا حضرت معاویہؓ کا اسکو نامزد کرنا امّت پر احسان ھے۔ بیس سال اقتدار میں رہ کر شوریٰ قائم نہ کرنا کس کے کھاتے میں ڈالا جائے؟؟ اگرچہ سعد بن ابی وقاصؓ حکومت سے دستبردار ہو گئے تھے مگر کیا وه رائے دینے کے قابل بھی نہیں رھے تھے؟؟؟ حضرت حجرؓ جیسے اہل الرائے اصحاب کا قتل کیا حضرت حسینؓ نے کروایا؟؟؟ امّت میں موجود قیادت کے اہل اصحاب رسول ﷺ حضرت حسین، عبدالله بن عمر اور عبدالله بن زبیر رضی اللّه عنہم کے بارے میں یزید کو کیا وصیت کی گئی تھی یہ جاننے کیلئے کافی ھے کہ یزید کی نامزدگی انتشار سے بچاؤ کیلئے تھی یا کہ قیصر و کسریٰ کی سنّت پر عمل کیلئے؟؟؟

[@mohsinmushtaq1724]

Ghamdi sahb abb aaap py Mirza || fatwa lagany wala hy k aaap Naaasbi hooo🤣🤣🤣

[@koogee]

Sounds like Ghamidi sb is commenting on Hazrat Muawiya's intentions at the end. This entire series (ikhtilaf) he has spent most of his time constructing an argument to justify intention. Normally he doesn't do that 🤔

[@syedhasnainahmed9097]

Ghamdi sb should be given S M Zaffer award advocating dictatorship

[@ZIaIqbal]

I agree, I am disappointed as well

[@shakak76]

yes it seems so, he is v short of saying in hidden ways that he was wrong in assuming govt or it was a wrong way but to be accepted to avoid infighting n civil war, basically power of sword decided the way, but he declined to say that the power of sword once subdued him and after Siffeen he could have been killed as a traitor but instead forgiven and had a truce; he applied the malookiat or son succeeding in pakistan etc principle on the same story too, though in most democracies its by selection or election not on family ties!

[@khurrarmabbas2998]

استاد محترم نے مایوس کیا اس موضوع پر 😭

[@mohammedtoseefansari240]

@@syedhasnainahmed9097 Bhai Namaz ada karna is piety.....but when you are in a state of Janaba or filthiness.....please don't say Namaaz...rather go clean yourself up. Democratic system is like Namaaz.....something to always strive for.....but when society has degenerated to rampant corruption, greed and selfishness ....I guess in Allah's wisdom democracy is not deserved. Let us clean ourselves of our ills and work towards the development of a democratic mindset -- in other words a mind tolerant of dissent and dissenting views.

[@certifiedediot]

Mein heeran hoon log tareefon k pul band rhe hain..... 2+2 ko chemistry k folmula laga ker 5 sabit ker diya..... Aik khyal se guftagu ka aagaz ker k matlab ka nateeja nikal liya....

[@ThKh]

ap nomination k time ki Marwan ki taqreer parh lein aur ye series dekh lein -- koi farq nahe aur enky lye bhe wuhe reply jo M.bin Abu Bakr ny Marwan ko dea .. k vo jo EHSAN ummat per ker rhy thy usky bary

[@mahmoodahmed7721]

Sorry you can't convince like that those who know the history in detail. You are giving justifications in a very simplified way. There are so many questions which can counter your narrative.

[@adnanaslam5858]

1. The topic of Bani Israel is totally irrelevant here. 2. Maviya himself did not accept Alis righteous and majority government then how could you expect that he would act democratically. 3. At the time of his death notable people were there on whom all provinces could agree but he did not even try to consult. So he is responsible for this dynastic rule in muslims. 4. At the time of maviya people were aware of their rights and some even fought for it. Ibn Abu bakar said maviya wanted to form dynastic rule and he reminded him about Shura. In my opinion maviyas all actions were based on personal and tribal glory and for it he damn care about any principle and achieved it by any means. Otherwise role model of khulfae rashideen were there and those who followed him were perpetrators of crimes against humanity, loot, plunder, nepotism and injustices.

[@umairzafar1303]

میں ہمیشہ کربلا کے واقعے کو دوسرے زاویے سے دیکھتا تھا۔مگر اب ایک نیا رخ دیکھنے کو ملا۔ ابھی بھی کچھ سوالات اور الجھنیں باقی ہیں۔امید ہے اگلی اقساط میں ان تمام پہلؤں پر بات ہو گی۔ اللہ تعالی غامدی صاحب کا سایہ سلامت رکھیں۔اللہ میری قوم کو یہ شعور دیں کہ وہ انتہا پسندی کی روایت کو ختم کرتے ہوئے علمی اور عقلی بنیاد پر کسی نظریے کسی بات کو رد و قبول کریں۔

[@arshadm1372]

Matlab, now U became neutral? یعنی واقعہ کربلا میں نہ کوئ حق پہ تھا، نہ کوئ ظالم؟ Thats what he's trying to say for last 7 episodes...

[@sumairafarooq1894]

It's fact, qarbala was not the war of haq and batil.

[@tarmac5482]

26:30 "ye tareekh ka jabar tha iss kay peechay koi buray muharekaat nahi thay". This is central piece of the entire ikhlafi analysis. I'm eagerly waiting to see how he proves that there're no buray muharrekaat of Muawiya.

[@AbdulMateenShikrani]

Strange of ghamdi SB.halankay you were sitting in Mouvia heart and seeing burray muaraykhat.

[@alihus5683]

Sir main "Mutfik" "Jamhoriyat" pori ki pori agar sab sa phly Maviya RA pesh krty or agar wo aam intahaBaat b karwa dety tu B ek Hmaray Bhai Hazrat esy hn unhin wo b Kabul ni hona tha🙏

[@MuhammadIqbal-ql9oi]

محترم بھائ آٹھویں نششت کب ھے

[@khurrarmabbas2998]

استاد محترم مایوسی ہوئی آپ کا تجزیہ سن کر۔ آپ جیسے بڑے آدمی اور محقق سے یہ گمان نہیں کیا جاسکتا۔

[@ayesharubab4785]

With his immense knowledge, ghamidi sir seems a creature of another world. Hats off to him

[@arianskhan]

after ummah separation in two fractions, after the nomination of yazeed still ghamidi sahb saying it was a great decision???? a decision can be judge by its results... which Muslim Ummah facing from 14 centuries....

[@AbdulMateenShikrani]

Do you think ummah was devided by this decision taken by Hazrat mouvia.not at all .it was devided long time ago .there were shian Ali at that time.one sect don't blame only maouvia r.a but all other khulifah and sahaba and ummahat.so if anyone thinks ummah devided after this incident it is totally ignorance from history Dear

[@AMMADUDDINQURESHI]

Ghamdi sb kay en 7 lectures ko samjhanay kay lia pehlay apnay andar ka engineer bahir nikalna ho ga kuch dair kay lia.

[@mukhtiarahmedmukhtiarahmed8807]

Zabrdast Nice very beautiful ❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️ ustajh ji

[@abubakr5427]

غامدی صاحب اللہ آپکے علم میں مزید برکت دے۔ آمین

[@munirhussain7104]

غامدی صاحب گریٹ اسکالر ہے دور حاضر کا۔ایسا دانشور صدیوں میں پیدا ھوتا ھے۔مولانا مودودی رحمتہ الللہ کے بعد۔

[@AR-yk1kv]

It’s the beautiful explanation JazakAllah Ghamdi sb.

[@buttaurangzeb5412]

Javed ghamadi is just love it allah aap ko sehat aur tandrusti day all time great for me I don't think any other better prayer than this prayer allah qabool farmaey aameen aurangzeb butt from Switzerland daska sialkot siranwali ❤

[@kanwaraqeelakhtar9859]

بہت خوب غامدی صاحب

[@danud9]

Ha ummat ke aise Mohsin the ki unke faisle ke nataij aise nikle ki madina ki auraton ki izzat neelam ho gayi! Inna lillahe wa inna ilaihi rajeuoon!

[@TastytalesbyAeni]

آپکی سوچ اپروچ کو سلام

[@jamildurrani1993]

عمدہ دلیلیں اور گفتگو مگر امیر معاویہ کے پاس موقعہ تھا کہ وہ امروہم شوری بینہم کی کوشش ہی کرتے مگر انہوں نے یہ کوشش ہی نہیں کی۔ اور اپنے کیے ہوے وعدے سے پھر گئے۔ اس بات کو اس آسانی سے سے مناسب اقدام کسی طرح نہیں کہا جا سکتا۔

[@fakhrakayani14]

Wah kya khny hain sir ap k Kesy Mawiya ko bari kr rhy hain to ap k khyl main imam Hussain as ghlt thy Mawiya sahib ne bilkul drust fesla kiya to pr es fesle ko imam Hussain as ne ku qabool na kiya unu ne yazeed ki bait se ku inkar kiya ap k khyl main kya wja thi Ameer Mawiya ne saltanat ko tukre tukre hone se bacha liya sir ap k khyl main ur ummat e muslim k tukre tukre kr diye qeyamat tk k liye ur Nabi saww k bachon ko yazeed ne mazlomna shaheed kr diya yahn tk k masoom bachy b zulm se mehfuz na reh sky ur Nabi saww ki nawasiyon ki hurmat ka b khyl na rkha gaya kya tarbiyt thi Mawiya ki jis fesle ko ap drust keh rhy hain ye sb usi fesle ka nateja tha

[@mubashirwasim8407]

اگر لوگ ملوکیت کو پسند کریں تو کیا یہ ان کی صوابدید نہیں؟ یہ بھی تو اس قرآنی اصول کے مطابق ہی ہو گی

[@AMMADUDDINQURESHI]

Part 6 daikhain

[@umairalikhan47]

All the previous criticism has been cleared in this episode Thank you Ghamidi sb for this intellectual explanation ❤️

[@ZIaIqbal]

I am definitely interested in hearing how he would justify the actions of Muawiya on the agreement that was made with Hazrat Imam Hassan

[@ISLAMWAYOfLiFe]

He will defend muavia ra... As he did here n in other parts

[@AbdulMateenShikrani]

Definitely you were one of the witness of that agreement and other was Muhammad Ali Mirza and imam bukhari imam Muslim and all other hadith books tabkaat ibn Saad mentioned in their books .oh sorry they have not mentioned but you eyewitness is there so no need to have anything else authentic for that and we will get on sahaba.what is Quran saying will make some taweels.

[@gillzadi2196]

16:30 پر بندوق (تلوار) کی حکومت ناجائز۔۔۔ لیکن معاویہ کی جبری حکومت کی دلیلیں ۔۔۔ منافقت

[@Samiakram1]

وتوا صو بالحق وتوا صو بالصبر آخری حق پرست کے آخری سانس تک خون بہنا چاہئیے، کبھی باطل کے تسلط پہ سر تسلیم خم نہیں کرنا چاہئیے، جہاد اس کا نام ہے، فساد لوگوں کو دبانے کا نام ہے چاہے اس میں اک، دو جانیں جائیں یا زیادہ۔ اگرچہ غامدی صاحب نے مجھے بظاہر دہریہ سے اصل معنوں میں خدا پہ ایمان لانے میں اک کی گائیڈ کا رول پلے کیا۔ افسوس یہ ترغیب قرآن کے واضح حکم وتوا صو بالحق وتوا صو بالصبر سے واضح انحراف ہے۔ غامدی صاحب جیسے سکالرز کے ہوتے ہوۓ دنیا پہ ہمیشہ طاقتور مسلط رہیں گے طاقت سے دبا کر قائم کیا گیا امن صریح جھوٹا امن ہے

[@shafighori4254]

Great analysis, very informative, thank you Ghamdi Sahib

[@mehtabahmed781]

بھئی واہ

[@mohammedaasimalhakimsaudif336]

ملوکیت والے لوگ آج بہی جمہوریت کے بہ نسبت کیوں امن و امان میں ہے !؟؟ اور خوشحال بہی۔

[@Dr.AmjadAli-393]

The Imam ul Asar Janab Javed Ahmad Ghamidi...

[@syedmujtabaquader6721]

Mr Ghamdi's viewpoint is that, a bad government is better than having no government. I personally think that this attitude is not conducive towards establishing a just and prosperous society. We must always struggle to establish the fundamental values of Islam under the guidance of the rightly guided scholars and the Ahle Bayet of the Prophet (sws).

[@alifaraz6467]

Ghamidi sahab, people expect truth from you. Speak straight and fair. You are manipulating facts with words. ALLAH sy Dar nahi lagta

[@mmh4all]

Assalamualaikum. If anything, Ghamdi saab can be a great orator and an amazing lecturer of philosophy and history, and JazakAllah khair Sahab for that. Ye bhi ghanimat hai aur Allah ka shukr hai ki aap jaisa bhi ek munfarid, aitedaal pasand aalim mayassar hai aaj ummat ko, Alhamdulillah. Lekin aapka aitedaal iss muamlay me nahi dikhta hai, at least to the naked eye, or at least not yet. But the way you negate the ahadith e mutwatar, Allah ki panah. Hz Ammar Ibn Yasser ki hadith ko aapne negate Kiya. Phir Engineer Mirza ki video mein kayi saboot dikh rahe hain ki it just can't be negated. Hope you approach this Most important issue in the next video and especially pertinent questions we'd ask without any bias, even subconsciously.

[@theoptimistic6065]

Its not hadees e mutawatir. First of all the who decides wheather a hadees is a mutawatir and how many tareeq of that hadees should be there in order to prove that the hadees is mutawatir? Secondly, the hadees gives a fatwa of jahannam to the muawiya's party, do u stand by that?. If mohammad ali mirza will claim that, he will be thrown out and will lose his credibility. Thirdly, Scholars have denied accepting the hadees e ammar. Its because only in sahihain there are 2 tareeq mentioned both at different times. Which one of that is correct? U can watch Hafiz mohammad zubair's criticism on hadees e ammar. Mohammad ali mirza paints a different picture in mind. He bluntly tries to say that Muawiyah and party were planning to rule the empire and that is why they planned the murder of hazrat e usman, then refused ali's acceptance then came to rule himslef and spread the monarchy. But Ghamidi sahab has cleared at least the confusion of attacking the intentions of muawiyyah. There can be many ways of seing the picture but the most appropriate would be to have a say without attacking intentions. Mirza sahab never conciders the views of oppostion, he makes blunt claims of bieng an ilmi kitabi but in reality he is otherwize. Hafiz mohammad zubair has refuted him and i bieng mirza sahab's follower for 2 years waited for a long time for mirza sahab to reply. When he didn't i knew he has no answer for his refutations.

[@sohelgayen7636]

Iss masle par gamdi sahab se 100-200 se zyada bande agree nehi karta hoga

[@quaisarjamil2569]

اپنے بیٹے ہی کو نامزد کیوں کیا، اجبکہ اس سے بہتر افراد موجود تھے ؟ کیا یزید واقعی اسکا اہل تھا ؟

[@raoofalvi7066]

دنیا میں اس وقت آپ علم کے بلند ترین مقام پر ہیں

[@ghulammohyuddinbhatti3292]

Dear Javed Ahmad Ghamidi sb i learnt very important lesson from you and got impressed. But sorry to say, during Part 7 you spent all of your philosophy to legitimate the Govt of Yazid. Leaving Islamic Principles of governance aside, you are taking the support of Western Examples. At number of moments i forgot what was your real topic. I shall speak no more on your tactics of prolonging the issue, your method of prolonging the topic is itself big explanation. I shall write after listening your next episode

[@engineerhamaad6853]

What a greatness of Muawiyah, that after making an oath that the matter of the caliphate will be returned to shura, not only took away the caliphate by forcing Hassan Bin Ali that peace was in no other way possible except bloodshed but also, in the end, gave his son Yazeed the Kingdom to retain that same peace obtained through blackmailing. He also did not know that People like Hussain Bin Ali AS will not give bayah, so only killing them was the way ahead. But Muawiyah the Masoom did not know that. He was so involved into getting peace actually. This whole argument was made to defend Muawiyah. Making things perplexing can help Ghamidi sometimes for some people.

[@raoofalvi7066]

a highly genius ,intellectual and realistic mind can understand this narrative

[@Straightforwardpk]

A dog became king once, and Donkies are still defending him Yazid ko angrez b defend karne se sharmate hai, lekin hamare logon ko sharm nhi ayi

[@arshadm1372]

اصل منفرد ذاویہ تو یہ ہے ک وسیع ہوتی اسلامی عرب مملکت میں پر امن انتقال اقتدار کا طریقہ یا تو حضرت معاویہ کو سمجھ میں آیا، یا پھر جمھوری انتقال اقتدار کا مسئلہ اسلام کی بجائے جدید مغرب نے حل کر کے دیا۔

[@arslan790]

غامدی صاحب اچھا بولتے ہیں مگر پھر اسی بات کا فائدہ اٹھاتے ہیں 😂

[@mudasirarslanluk8201]

Sir you are giving good point of view , but there is a loophole , you are giving justification to every controversial act with your self theory.

[@trueseeker826]

This is soooo contradictory … on one hand Ali was family therefore not necessary but soon after Yazid us ok ???? Sooo very sad to actually promote yazid 😢😢

[@Agrazatalpur]

حضرت محمد صلی اللہ علیہ وآلہ وسلم نے فرمایا تھا کہ اے عمار بن یاسر تجھے باغی گروہ قتل کرے گا باغی گروہ کے سردار کا تمام علماء کو علم ہے اس کے باوجود باغی گروہ کے سردار کی وکالت کرتے ہیں یہ لوگ کیسے علماء ہیں اور ان علماء کے کیسے پیروکار ہیں جو خود ساختہ کہانیوں پر یقین رکھتے ہیں اور حقیقت سے انکاری ہیں

[@ontimeschool966]

He is not a scholar but a lier Hide every truth. It called کتمان حق

[@tahseensiddiqui8525]

Please reply to the question regarding appointment of yazeed

[@adeelahmad1097]

So ghamidi sb once a dictator takes power then we should all surrender is what you are saying. I dont agree. Muawiyah r.a could have easily eztablished a council to elect a new leader. He had 20 years to do it. How about so many hadiths about ahl e bait and shaan of hazrat ali. Didn't muawiya r.a not know about the status of ahl e bait. I disagree with your point of view. You are suggesting to accept slavery of a dictator to save bloodshed. Every dictator has always shed blood regardless

[@fahadalikazmi1118]

ایک طرف غامدی صاحب کا فہم دین ہے اور دوسری جانب جوانان جنت کے سردار ، نواسئہ رسول کا فہم دین ہے ۔ نواسئہ رسول ، دین ، ریاست اور حکومت کے معاملات کو براہراست دیکھ رہے ہیں … اور ایک قدم اٹھا رہے ہیں ۔۔اور غامدی صاحب ایسے ان کے اقدام کی حیثیت کو بے معنی بنانے کی کوشش کر رہے ہیں ۔۔ افسوس صد افسوس غامدی صاحب، آپ کا اس موضوع پر استدلال ہر طرح سے ناقص ہے محسن اسلام حسین ابن علی ہیں جو قیامت تک کے لئے ملوکیت کو expose کر گئے ۔۔ اور آپ خود بھی expose ہو گئے ۔۔

[@shabbeermoosvi]

Allah ki lanath ho Ghamdi per jo Mawiya aur Yazeed ki hukumat ko Sahi keh raha hai,, we pray Ghamdi should be would be with Yazeed and Mawiya in Jhannum ,,

[@zulfiqarali673]

ہوسٹ کا آخری سوال ہی میرا سوال ہے، چلیں اگلی قسط میں جواب ڈھونڈتے ہیں۔

[@powerautoei8245]

غامدی صاحب سے سوال ہے کے ایک شخص خود خون اور جنگ کرنے کے لئیے سب سے آگے ہوتا تھا اور پھر وہ بھی صرف دینا کے لئے اور حکومت لے لئے اور بعد میں کرسی پر بیٹھ کر پھر خون کیا اور پھر ان کے بعد ہر کوئی خون کرتا آیا

[@zoizoi4011]

Mohtram umer Farooq ra na kasy 22 lakh square miles (equal to a vast empire)hakomut ki ..unki hukumat b to jazeera numa Arab sa extend ho chuki thi.