HDMI 2.1 CAPTURE CARDS - Here's What You Need to Know!

[@funkyblackcat]

I'm definitely gonna wait for the Magewell one, just hope it doesn't take too long. It may be crazy expensive compared to gaming brands but it's much more versatile and reliable. By the way, I was able to passthrough G-Sync in my Magewell 4K LT Plus, all I had to do is load the LG TV EDID into the card. I ran multiple tests including the G-Sync Pendulum software and it seems it's working, I am missing something here?

[@EposVox]

That card isn’t supposed to support VRR in any way, so I’m thinking a fluke? No clue

[@funkyblackcat]

​@@EposVox I thought that as well, there's always a catch when trying to use VRR in older cards. But this one is working, I even used the green button on the LG remote and turned Nvidia Inspector G-Sync overlays on to confirm. Really weird, there's gotta be a catch somewhere lol. Try doing this too if you still have these hardwares, just load the LG Edid into the card

[@DetonaHard]

@@funkyblackcat Ó o Funky aí, bicho! :)

[@erroDan]

@funkyblackcat voce por aqui kkkkk

[@DuanLeeDom]

Caraca, achei você aqui @funkyblackcat?

[@Symba_Lysm]

Dude. I've been watching you for 3 years already. I remember seeing your partner in videos holding him in the back as a small infant. To see him as grown up as he now is make me feel old... And I'm way younger then you! Honestly, With this in mind, Consider that a testament of my faith in your good doing as a content creator. You content has consistently evolved over the last 3 years to a stage where I consider you a role model to my active development of slowly *hopefully* become a content creator myself. Jolly good show as always!

I can't wait for your reviews... I know they are a lot of work, but they are the best and most thorough. Love your work.

[@invikari]

thank you for keeping us up to date

[@EposVox]

Thanks for watching!

[@FangDadhat]

I love that you took the risk making this in 4:3. Thanks. I need new capture cards and this just showed up in my feed!

[@SuperDerek]

Welcome back Addie! Just bought my Master Class guide this morning! :D

[@EposVox]

Thank you!!

[@adnantoons]

Is there any ultra wide capture card ?

[@NotoriousRKB]

The aspect ratio of the video threw me off a little but I think I like it.

[@lucyinchat]

It's very good on phones.

[@The44sasquatch]

I'm loving it on my Fold, it's taking up almost the whole screen lol

[@gameandbros5462]

I was freaking out cause I thought something was wrong with my phone haha

[@GewelReal]

I love having only half the screen filled with massive black bars

[@Phynix72]

Il like it cause while watching on large screen you keep your neck straight & at same time having a little more displayed vertically on screen. 👍

[@ravankratos]

Which card is good for iPad to stream game to youtube

[@marceldiezasch6192]

Does the HDMI 2.1 pass through still work at full refresh rate, though? There are 300 Hz displays with HDMI 2.1 like the Acer Nitro XV2 XV272UKFbmiipruzx, would it be possible to play at the full 1440p 300 Hz and capture at 1440p 120? Or is the pass through somehow limiting the refresh rate of the display?

[@LOT9T]

Hello as hard as i try i cannot use HLS servers to stream hdr content with obs to you tube without the bitrate going from selected bit rate down to 0 then back to selected bit rate causing glitchy stream with lags. :( Any ideas on how to fix that or should i just not try until rmtps is allowed hdr and when do you think that time will be. TY

[@EposVox]

I’d just wait for RTMPS, very few viewers care about HDR anywY

[@LOT9T]

@@EposVox Ty Aver media internal looks like a winner! Ty great explanations!

[@twogchannel]

My video capture keep freezing how to fix sir 😢

[@Alexandra-Rex]

I am looking forward to this! Now I can use my monitor at its full potential without having to change which input I use depending on whether I am streaming/recording or just playing. I mean, if it supports 1440p 240Hz pass-through. Edit: Apparently they don't support 240 Hz 1440p pass-through. That's very disappointing. But I'm moving to 4K soon hopefully, so 120 Hz there at least will be good. I'll wait to see what Elgato comes out with. Got their 4K60 Pro Mk2 now.

[@alexl4626]

Yeah they don't support 240hz 1440p i want to kms

[@ruijikisu]

odd question...is it a big deal to not have gsync passthrough? i usually just clone my screen and one goes to the capture card and one to the gsync screen and that works only some games act up, like the forza games, which seem to default to the lowest common denominator, which means in my case it locked the max frame rate to 60, but the gsync still worked. is there a benefit to passing gsync through that im not seeing?

[@EposVox]

GSync generally doesn’t actually work with cloning. And the whole point of getting VRR passthrough on a card is so you don’t have tearing on your capture feed. Cloning will always have tearing, far more if you’re forcing GSync to the main display

[@The1AndOnlySB]

I’ve had both Avermedia and Elgato. Kind of curious to see if Elgato has something coming. They’ve been very quiet on cards for hdmi 2.1 and all

[@protasov-by]

Hello do u know card that can process input hdmi 1080@50 deep color 12 bit rec 2020 as output raw 4:4:4 RGB 10/12? Yuv2 or P010 is too loose pixel formats. Same I need to process old s-video or component, 4:2:2 or 8 bit processors on cards and yuv2 output also mess where in best cases weave deinterlacing present, maybe there something more color resolution and bit depth capable cards with motion adaptive or 3D motion based cards u can suggest?

[@EarlLiles7]

Good to see you again Vox, missed your content. Are you going to be offering the classes again?

[@EposVox]

I mean, I never stopped posting lol. This video is months old now. Course is still available for purchase here: glitch.mov/products/the-definitive-guide-to-obs-studio

[@EarlLiles7]

​@EposVox lol, I just realized that after I posted... this is over seven months old! But for some reason, I haven't been getting your videos! All of a sudden today, this video popped into my feed. So, I thought it was recent like today, till I looked afterwards. Either way, I enjoy your content and thinking about the class. Will check out the link this weekend. Thanks Vox!

[@EposVox]

Glad to be back! Haha

[@OfficialBioDevil]

Considering I'm having issues with my Elgato 4k60 Pro Mk2 (and customer support just not being able to do anything but suggest the same three fixes) I think it's time I start looking at the alternatives out there.

[@DerekTurtleRoe]

Exciting times! Thanks for the great video! 😄

[@SHiNWiN]

Does it capture 4K60 through MacOS?

[@trmchenry]

On the Avermedia 5.1 audio recording is kind of a big new feature. But they don't mention it in the specs for the new usb card so I'm assuming still 2.0 audio over usb. Bummer.

[@EposVox]

Live Gamer 4K also supported it. And one of their others AFAIK. But they usually don’t support the encoded formats consoles use, so not super useful

[@SennaCrow]

Is there any way you could do a video on how to get OBS to match ACX audiobook settings....? I've been looking everywhere for this and have found literally nothing for OBS Studio. It's all Audacity or Adobe Auditions----one of which I don't want to pay for, the other which is crap. I already have Davinci Resolve and OBS Studio on my laptop and main computer, so I should be able to just make the most of those two. The first thing I haven't been able to figure out is getting stats on a full track's RMS levels. Or how to set a dB range of -23dB to -18dB. So frustrated. These are the ACX specs. ⏹measure between -23dB and -18dB RMS ⏹have -3dB peak values ⏹ max -60dB noise floor ⏹be a 192kbps or higher ⏹MP3 ⏹Constant Bit Rate (CBR) ⏹44.1 kHz I figured out half of it, and some can't be done until being edited in Davinci, like MP3 export. I found 44.1 kHz, CBR, and 192 or higher kbps settings and did those. It's the 1st three that are driving me insane, lol.

[@EposVox]

That kind of loudnesss normalization is really something you should be doing post-recording. But there’s no way in OBS to specifically lock you to such a range. Could gain it up and limit to -3 but it’s cleaner to do in post

[@AJCoReTV]

Any word on Launch dates?

[@EposVox]

Nope

[@AJCoRePlays]

9/18/23 🎉

[@FishFPS]

I'm waiting for reviews. But I'm pumped we're finally getting HDMI 2.1 capture cards. It feels like it just took forever.

[@nikilragav]

Ya I was wondering why you are shooting in 4:3

[@MJ7productions]

Maybe they're planning to launch 8K 60FPS recorder that is able to record 8K 60FPS & 4K 120FPS both at once. Maybe promoting a higher resolution recorder sells better than just a higher frame rate recorder. And since 8K is still kind of new on the market it feels too early for them to launch it now, especially that there are no or only few video games that support 8K resolution. Also 8K TV's are still expensive and the majority of people recently bought a 4K TV. No one thinks of buying and upgrading his TV to 8K resolution since there is no much content to watch in 8K! I hope Elgato does not follow AverMedia's footsteps. As launching a new HDMI 2.1 capture card that only passes through 4K at 120 FPS without actually recording it is worthless.

[@CptPakundo]

NV12 is fine and all, but I've been using my avermedia card to play my PS5 games via passthrough using RGB24, which is supposed to be(?) 4:4:4. At the very least these new cards should support that too at the higher refresh rates. Fingers crossed...

[@EposVox]

Passthrough would (unless something went horribly wrong) still be 4:4:4. Was talking about the capture formats. If they limited passthrough to 4:2:0, that would be a massive step backwards

[@CptPakundo]

@@EposVox Oh absolutely, though I imagine powerful enough PCs could theoretically power through that by recording with non hardware-accelerated encoders... Unless something new came in with hardware 4K120 recording capabilities?

[@EposVox]

If the capture card doesn't provide a 4:4:4 format to record, there's nothing the PC can do to change that

[@CptPakundo]

@@EposVox Wait, you can't use software like OBS to record using a 4:4:4 codec of choice whatever you're displaying on your computer, like that 4:4:4 passthrough stream?

[@EposVox]

If the capture card only provides NV12 as a format and doesn’t supply a 444 mode, you cannot record such a mode. That is what that whole discussion was about, yes

[@AJCoRePlays]

Live gamer ultra 2.1, pre orders are live! $299 w/ a preorder discount $275… delivers next month, Mac support Dec 23’! Let’s go!!!

[@SteuerkreuzTV]

Link to that? Can't see any pre order information so far

[@SteuerkreuzTV]

Ok I saw it. Seems as it currently only works in the US. No preorder in Europe so far :(

[@Capta1nAsh]

going to move back to 2 PC stream with this release. I like having my UW 1440p but having to cap my frames to 60fps because OBS's GPU usage shoots up is no good :(

[@gmoney0505]

I would love for these to have more than 1 input

[@waynewalkerorg]

why we in 4:3?

[@evilvash0]

looking forward to the avermedia one

[@abavariannormiepleb9470]

Related topic: Any chance for actually reliable active DisplayPort 1.4 (DSC)-to-HDMI 2.1 adapters finally coming to market?

[@EposVox]

DisplayPort to HDMI hasn't been a problem. It's the other way around that is an issue. I have one I'm testing soon tho

[@abavariannormiepleb9470]

@@EposVox Have you actually operated such an adapter at 2160p/120 Hz/Full-Range RGB/10 bit colors/HDR? Have tested the ones claiming such specs from Club 3D and Sabrent, none of them actually do this but max out at HDMI 2.0b. Used RTX 3000 dGPUs for testing that support DSC.

[@EposVox]

I used a DP to HDMI for running my LG CX in full 4k120 10-bit for a year w/ no issue. DSC is probably the compatibility breaker there

[@abavariannormiepleb9470]

@@EposVox Then I’d be very thankful for the specific model name of the adapter you used, I also used a CX during my testing with the latest firmware on it and a cable that does 48 Gbps just fine (obviously A/B tested with the dGPUs’ native HDMI 2.1 ports).

[@abavariannormiepleb9470]

Did you maybe misremember in the heat of the moment and actually used a native HDMI 2.1 port back then?

[@zhaf]

Oh wait what.... they're finally comming!? :D

[@movax20h]

Whoh. You mentioned that Twitch supports 120fps, if you stream 120fps, and select source. It is 120 fps. Glorious smooth. Bitrate is a bit limiting (AV1 could maybe help), but it does work. Thanks for mentioning that.

[@felixkrell890]

could I technically use one of these cards with internal processing to record high quality Clean HDMI out form my iPhone?

[@flyc0de389]

Have you thought about making a video on "mouse without borders"? That thing is INSANE for multi pc stream setups.

[@rudiruessel9816]

I stopped streaming because of this with my new wqhd 270hz monitor. Its realy sad that their comes nothing. With different hz with cloning i always feel a different to how it feels ingame without streaming.

[@darthlionzh8428]

For the online games like cod, yess….

[@rudiruessel9816]

@@darthlionzh8428yes, I play apex and that is no fun with different Hz cloning.

[@darthlionzh8428]

@@rudiruessel9816 jup… cod was enough fot me….

[@Drewkungfoo]

I suggested to Elgato that they come out with a new generation of the 4K60 Pro with the Successor to the 4K60Pro Mk.II (aptly named - the 4K144 Pro) 4K144 Pro Can do the following: 4K 144Hz PT 1440p 240/360Hz PT and 1080p 360Hz PT HDMI 2.1

[@EposVox]

We can dream

[@THE_SAM09]

Wouldve loved more info on 1440p240. However, I found out yesterday that I can still play in 1440p240 and send a 1440p120 feed over display cloning onto an elgato 4k60 pro in another pc. Thought you needed an hdmi 2.1 capture card for that.

[@rudiruessel9816]

But it feels not so smover then on the gaming monitor and that's the problem

[@EposVox]

Display Cloning can sometimes allow you to force a clone with mismatched refresh rates, but it adds way more tearing and will stop working randomly.

[@THE_SAM09]

@@rudiruessel9816 Didnt experience any changes on the gaming monitor at all. However, Adam is right about the screen tearing. Also somehow the quality looks slightly worse than using NDI, but that might be placebo.

[@rudiruessel9816]

Don't search for it now if you don't feel it all is good for u!

[@haka5917]

How is it with an ultrawide? I have the lg with 1440p 240hz hdr10. Will I be able to pass it through in an dual pc setup?

[@LIVE781REDRUM]

Will these upscale vhs?

[@EposVox]

No

[@rorryx_]

Yay for new products, nay for the standstill in some areas

[@EdGreenall]

I'm not sure how many games even run at 120fps on console. I feel like they often struggle to get them to 60, so having a passthrough for 120 doesn't seem so useful, not yet anyway.

[@EposVox]

120hz sync is still useful for VRR for games that can run above 60, keeping the lowest latency on your TV, and the competitive games that do run at 120. It’s useful.

[@EdGreenall]

@@EposVox Yeah, that's true. I just updated my displays to 4K 144, so having my consoles go through a 2.1 capture card makes sense, I suppose.

[@URFRNDLY]

Ok so maybe you guys can help me, I have a 4k/165Hz monitor and i want to play my PS5 on my PC at 4k/120hz in a smaller window, is this possible? And what would i need?

[@jeradotz5396]

What happened to EVGA XR1 PRO? it says it supports HDMI 2.1 officially now, but I cannot use it with an OLED TV, it works with some monitors but only with HDMI 2.0

[@EposVox]

It supports VRR, not full HDMI 2.1. Poor labeling. It never supported actual HDMI 2.1 specs

[@jeradotz5396]

@@EposVox I understand now, I tried to reach support multiple times but no response, yours was helpful, at least to know why it won't work. Still not getting why it pass-through doesn't work with any TV

[@forthepopcorn]

I have the Live Gamer ULTRA - GC553, is there an usb upgrade worth it right now?

[@goldnx]

12:00 100% 240 1440p pass through is a must. Otherwise you can just duplicate screens with the last gen… At least it’s a start into 2.1, but still going to suck for some early adopters that don’t know better. Fishy.

[@Decenium]

is there even a market for capture cards still?

[@EposVox]

Of course? The same market there always was

[@JasonJtran]

I just want the preview latency to be very low.

[@juanme555]

Will you be doing any CRT monitors content in the future?

[@EposVox]

I don’t have any specific plans atm (tho I’m looking at playing Boltgun on one) but they always come up from time to time!

[@juanme555]

@@EposVox Just an idea for consideration (pls dont think im being pushy the only reason i bring this up is because no one has done it yet anywhere online, i understand you're a busy man and im not making any demands). If you ever find the time and interest: could you make a video trying Intel Arc gpus on a CRT? the reason im proposing this is because intel said they support interlaced scanning through HDMI 2.1 , and for most people from poorer countries or just...unlucky, Interlaced resolutions are a godsent to be able to push higher resolutions at good refresh rates on otherwise weak spec'd models, if any Alchemist gpu would support this, it would mean a great deal for people stuck on the 980Ti to finally be able to upgrade.

[@EposVox]

Well that’s… fascinating. I hadn’t seen it. Definitely gotta try it!

[@julioarroyo6137]

Why would'nt you just run NDi accelerated by Nvidia GPU to capture 4K 120 FPS with Audio? Honest question....

[@trueNahobino]

Not completely sure but I think NDi only works with PCs, not consoles (which is where the main market for capture cards is in the first place)

[@movax20h]

On ASUS website it says that is supports VRR. Still cannot buy it anywhere from my quick searches. The lack of 4K 120/144Hz capture, is just milking users, so they can provide a new product next year or so. It would maybe add extra 10$ to the price. There are chips that can do it, just not for cheap stuff yet.

[@Qwertyzzero]

Yo bro, i'm new for recording a gameplay on pc, my friend told me u must record with dual pc for smooth and better look, can u tell me minimum cpu and gpu to record a gameplay with no lag using evgax1r? And can ddr3 pc with 2cores and 2 thread capture 4k60fps with gtx 1650,i think 1650 supports enough 4k60 fps for capturing only? His 1650 just free for me and i can use it, can i blend a dual core cpu and 1650 to record 4k60fps with evga x1?

[@OGParzoval]

It's not cost prohibitive. They need a future product improvement to sell. So, what we get as consumers are incremental updates that we get to pay full price over and over. Once they come out with 120/144 capture cards there's not much more to go for beyond that besides support of future formats like HDR spec updates etc and they'll have to compete on the software side.

[@SoarPro]

I'll stick with my AverMedia LG 4K OG capture card. Still works to this day after over a year of usage.

[@qri0ct]

great video as usual.

[@EposVox]

Thanks!

[@Chicken_CS]

1440p-240hz live gamer ultra Predator XB273UGX is there any way to clone or something? And will downgrading from DP to hdmi destroy performance?

[@Shuttterbugg]

Just t bought the maxsquare hdmi 2. 1 4k 120 hz 4k60 4k2k...amazing...its the leader right now for sure in capturw

[@NateWolfKira]

Any thoughts on which you'd recommend to try pre-ordering first? Thus far both units seem to offer the same specs and features I'd need. I do however prefer ASUS' chassis and lower profile RGB light. Probably doesn't mean much, but having the OBS certification might appeal to some as well. Ultimately, which one would we predict to be more reliable and which has better customer service?

[@StreamVirtual]

I was thinking of getting one of these just to test it out. Any word on release dates? Does anyone support streaming in such high rates yet? HLS in h.265 or AV1? Prices seem cheap compared to "pro" stuff.

[@EposVox]

KZbin supports H265 & AV1 over RTMPs. But doesn't support 120fps

[@StYfReX]

I mean, you can record 4K 120 and 8K 30 on an Atomos Ninja V+ since 2021. So there is hardware for it. The only thing is that there is no direct connection to the PC via this form, because you record from the Ninja V to an SSD directly. They could do a capture card based on it, even if its PCIE only. What a waste to not have "real" HDMI 2.1 cards :/

[@granitecowboy2199]

I watched your video over at Nebula. That said, I think they aren't offering the maximum ability of the HDMI 2.1 spec because they know the end is nigh. 8k gaming will probably never be a thing. If it ever becomes a thing, it's probably easily a decade away. 4k is basically the top of what pixel screen gaming will be. So they have to have an upgrade to make people buy an upgrade product. After that it's just failure replacements.

[@flyc0de389]

Can I ask why you use a 1:1 aspect ratio?

[@EposVox]

I don’t! It’s 4:3!

[@flyc0de389]

@@EposVox My bad, need to wipe my glasses lol

[@sukidable]

These would really go great with a version of that displayport -> displayport + hdmi device that passes through VRR. T_T

[@MaheerKibria]

So given that the yuan card you are talking about that does 4K 120 is $1400. i know someone that special ordered one. I think them saying it being prohibitively expensive isn't a lie

[@EposVox]

The yuan card equivalents of the normal cards from previous gens etc were much more expensive than the gaming versions too iirc

[@kontemplatemusic2189]

How old is this video?

[@EposVox]

Not old. Date is right there below the title lol

[@joe_ferreira]

I want a camlink pro with 4k60.

[@EposVox]

BlackMagic Decklink Quad HDMI

[@mariotriforce]

I actually would say the limitation maby could be comeing from the broadcast sector keeping prices high on such chips/protecting their investment, also encoding 120fps would be quite hot (remember most company's struggle with 4k multiple encoder chips with out a rack unit/being cheep, passthrough is easier), when bmd can do it the walls should fall tho but waiting you shall because of such reasons 🤔, I want HDMI 2.1 on a bmd device not just for this reason but also because someone will have to convince Dolby to do more vision tunneling, their are multiple people blocking this & possibly patent protections in place too, consumers are not the priority at the current time clearly 🤔

[@bakakafka4428]

Still no comparison on the new AV1 encoders. AMD's still buggy? If I need a card in the next few months, among others for AV1, I'd better get Nvidia?

[@EposVox]

Less about the buggy ness and more that those are some of the most time-intensive projects I ever do on the channel, and I have had barely any work time for months. Plus, the general conclusion is “don’t worry about it” lol

[@bakakafka4428]

@@EposVox 'kay! Thanks!

[@BrillianceAutoSpa]

In other words, wait for the ElGato version. Gotcha!

[@JetfireWithy]

I think the reason why they want to keep with last gen framerates is to purely cater to as many people as possible with slower PCIe lanes. Motherboards haven't been easy to get during the pandemic, at RRP prices. So the lack of 4k120hz/144hz capture as with the cost of it, might be reflecting this.

[@no_tread_]

That is what I am thinking. I tried to use NDI at a high resolution/framerate and the M.2 SSD probably just isn't fast enough to keep the stutters away. A lot of people don't want to upgrade to PCI-E 4.0 and get a PCI-E SSD that can transfer the data. One of the current capture cards is an easier solution for me. I will probably just use the switch for the camera(s).

[@bendrover]

Yo my videos are trash 🗑im running ps5 through lg c2 42 inch elgayo 60s plus. Upgrading to the lg c2 killed my audio the picture is blown out.

[@상윤아]

Hello I am korean. Waited too long for this product to come out How much do you expect this product to cost? I hope it doesn't go over $399. ㅠ _ ㅠ

[@XxDeViLBrInGeRxX]

Was really looking forward on seeing a good HDMI 2.1 capture card, yet from what it was shown, I guess its better just to wait a while longer. Dunno why Avermedia ALWAYS does something to screw themselves over, either due of the software or the "not viable" thing with having better 4K specs for capturing...urgh....

[@KristopherSatchell]

It seems the El Gato HD60x is the best option until something is better, 4k 60fp yes, variable frame rate yes, 120hz yes, usb 3.0 yes, cheaper than all of the other cards yes. Right now there's a 240hz glitch in windows 11 settings available to HD60x cards in settings. Probably doesn't work but its there

[@Jsmeth]

I know this is a video on 2.1 and 4k60+. Wondered your thoughts on Rode's new Streamer X in this lineup?

[@EposVox]

I should be getting it in soon! It's a last-gen card, tho. Same specs/chipset as all the USB cards from last summer

[@loldarian]

I must have the 4k 120hz !

[@MirelRC]

Ohh yeah, black bars left and right. What I love to see that.

[@b4ttlemast0r]

What I actually want is a capture card that can actually capture 4K 120hz, can be a PCIe card

[@divin3d84]

I want to see display port capture cards for PC capture I'm not into consoles at all I hate controllers been on kbm since Wolfenstein 3D I will never change lol

[@stevenanderson3205]

I would like to see networks like Fox for watching football go to 4k/120 it would be amazing but they are still stuck at 720p hard to watch but a network worth billions you would think would not have a problem upgrading hardware.

[@EposVox]

They're likely filming most of the sports events at 4k/4k120 already (they do a lot of slowmo anyway w/ higher rates than 120) but the TV broadcast protocol is limited to 720. You're more waiting on TV providers to roll out better infrastructure or 4k120 streaming to become more common (aka AV1 rolling out more)

[@solarstrike33]

That’s ATSC standards for ya. It’s very much a standard of 1995… ATSC 3.0 would be better though, but that’s been slow-going.

[@stevenanderson3205]

@@solarstrike33 It would be nice to update these standards lot has changed sinc 1995 720p was big thing then not so now.

[@solarstrike33]

@@stevenanderson3205 That's what ATSC 3.0 is - 4K and 1080p finally! (at 120 Hz, too) That being said, a big part of why ATSC 3.0's adoption has been slow is because...well, linear TV ain't exactly what it used to be, to say the least.

[@PlasticinaVerde]

the asus is great, been using it for 1 year now

[@VideogamesAsArt]

I hope for better products soon, once the first products come to the market, competitors will want to release something better... soon(tm)

[@bfstudios9163]

Finally !

[@heyguyslolGAMING]

I'm curious why HDMI 2.1 is so expensive that it took companies 3 years to give us something we should have already had not to mention that a lot of TV manufacturers have downgraded their HDMI 2.1 ports from 4 & 5 to 2 & 3 ports due to cost. Fortunately I bought my OLED's before the downgrades so I have the full hdmi ports.

[@nikilragav]

Hoping for 10-bit 4:2:2

[@tek_soup]

100% Correct!

[@rustlieutenantdan3211]

I want 360hz 1080p passthrough

[@NerdyThrowbackTech]

Finally

[@HUNKCULEZ]

I have the tuff card and its just ok

[@Hi-levels]

240hz passthru would be nice

[@mytrashamn]

Woooo

[@EposVox]

WHOO!

[@ionrage]

Kinda want companies to focus on reducing latency for recording for the sake of audio sync.

[@Drewkungfoo]

There is NO WAY that ELGATO DOES NOT COME THRU WITH THE PERFECT SPECS 4K 144Hz, 1440p 360Hz, 1080p 360Hz

[@EposVox]

I mean, it's completely possible lol. We'll have to wait and see

[@TOYMAK3R]

Personally i don't care too much for 4K120 capture cause I don't believe most content creators are recording or streaming 120fps anyway. But i have been BEGGING Elgato for 4K120 passthrough 1080p capture HDR capture cards for YEARS since the new consoles were even announced in the first place. The HD60 X was such a disappointment cause what's the point of VRR if you're not actually using your console to it's full potential.

[@Easelgames]

Haha , gotta love over-engineering product title names XD

[@UnincludedProd]

4:3??!!?!

[@PaulTheFox1988]

The only feature I really want from these new capture cards right now is cec passthrough for my htpc setup. Having said that making them uvc devices is amazing, native Linux support is something I've been wanting for way too long, so even if they don't support cec passthrough, I'm still getting one for my desktop.

[@N0N0111]

Avermedia trying to sandbag another generation so people upgrade and buy the hot new. And just release the real 4K120 next years so people upgrade again. Some phones can literally record in 8K60 on battery power, as in we already have chips that can handle 4K120 streams.