HDR50 - Full Break Down & Reassembly "Everything you need to know"

[@r.r3422]

By far, this is the best video I've seen on KZbin. So detailed on everything you need to know about these markers. Thank you so much for making this video 😊

[@survivalcampman]

Your Welcome my friend! That was my goal! I'm Glad I could help all of you!

[@r.r3422]

@@survivalcampman I would like to ask you about an issue I am having with my hdr50 11 joules and the Hdr68 16 joules. I purchased both of them with the upgrades already installed from the factory. Both pistols have started to leak air from the indicator button as soon as I puncture the Co2 cartridge. I have no idea why both of these guns started giving me this problem around the same time. I always spray silicone oil every 3 or 4 Co2 cartridges. Could you please give me an idea why this is happening? Thank you so much.

[@survivalcampman]

Everything is trial and error, process elimination, so of you say its comming from the pressure indicator, then the only reason(s) it would be leaking would be 1. The brass screw fitting is not screwed in and tightened all the way. 2. The O-ring that seals the brass fitting needs to be replaced, 3. The O-ring could have a kink or bend in it and simply needs to be losened, re positions then screwed back in. 4. The brass fittings themselves have defects and is causing the airleak, ( unlikely ) If you gi through all of these and there is still an air leak, then, we look into other possabilities, You can communicate with me Directly on my FB group page, Survival Camp, I will send a link. You you cant get this figured out, you can send me video or pictures so we can figure out exactly what to do.

[@survivalcampman]

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[@survivalcampman]

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[@Rick-gb5jj]

Excellent demonstration thanks. Unfortunately I'm from a country where I can't modify them but still appreciate your skills and expertise. Cheers

[@survivalcampman]

No problem Brother! Thanks! Cheers

[@ivanbear9996]

Thanks for the info brother man. On the 11J I drilled the valve pice in the handle for more co2 and removed the valve block as you said. Didn't touch the one that's needs to be heated to be removed. I will put HPA next. Do I need tuning barrel first? What is your advice?

[@survivalcampman]

@ivanbear9996 no problem brother, have you shot it yet since the mod? Its not necessary to get the barrel. But having the extension gives you 40 to 100 extra fps depending on pressure. if you do the hpa bottle, dont go above a 1100psi regulator. It can blow up and seriously injure you. Having a 850psi to 1000psi is safe the gun is only registered safe to 1000psi And always depressurize the gun after your done with it. If you leave a hpa bottle pressurized with a 1100psi regulator, it can slowly weekend over the course of a day to a few days and explode randomly. This had happened to people. So always depressurize your gun even with a 850psi to 1100psi regulator. Let me know how you make out. How it shoots and if you have any issues

[@ivanbear9996]

@survivalcampman Works good it gets 10 shots with one canister. With the devestater projectile from 6m distance goes true 0.6 inch soft foam floor mat. I don't have chronograph. That's how I measure it😅. Thank's again for the information. I got it.

[@survivalcampman]

@@ivanbear9996 Dude thats awesome, They are probable flying 350 to 500fps With only 10 shots It tells me that, it work hurt extremely bad, When each co2 gives you 25 shots, they hurt like hell, I cant imagine how bad they would hurt lol

[@christopherpike3073]

Awesome !! Thank you for this video !

[@survivalcampman]

My pleasure! Happy to help brother!

[@jamierobertson3517]

Hey dude, awesome video! Thanks for breaking it down so well.. do you know if the mod is the same for the gen-2 version of the 7.5 joule as it is for the gen-1? Can’t find a lot of info on this, cheers!

[@survivalcampman]

Hey brother thanks man! No I do not, I have not taken one apart, so i really cant say, If I do find out ill let you know though

[@THELESSLETHALSPOT]

Nice video but some things are misleading 7.5 and 11j are practically the same valve just different way to restrict airflow.

[@survivalcampman]

@THELESSLETHALSPOT one has a different set up than the other, and the 7.5 cannot recieve the small round piece because there is not screw threads for it. I describe it the best I can. I am going to make a shorter condenced version, Any mistakes or things I can improve on, come out in future videos always correcting my old stuff. Admitting mistakes and providing new correct knowledge is how I roll my Brother! Thanks for watching!

[@jarroh4359]

Thanks for the video! Best one out there! Have you got any specs on de adjustments you made? Wich one is more powerfull after the update? the 7.5J or the 11J version?

[@survivalcampman]

Thank you! I am about to release a video of me doing a chrony test with the 7.5, there isnt much of a difference between the 2 since it just depends on how you decide to modify them, if you open the air valve to the same size they both work pretty well the same.

[@BuNNDoGG]

thanks very much for this. I bought the 11 jewel and the cylinder where the c02 goes fell out. Is it threaded? thanks again. really appreciate.

[@survivalcampman]

You mean the little disc shape washer with a small hole in the middle?

[@survivalcampman]

Try to describe it a little better so I can help you, whats the issue? You cant figure out how to put it back together?

[@FLAlesslethal]

My Man! Ive watched dozens of these mods and by far yours is the best and most detailed. Makes the other ones look ridiculous 😂... You'd have to be a real dumb dumb not to be able to complete this after watching yours! Keep it up bro...

[@survivalcampman]

Thanks Brother! Im glad I could provide the knowledge to you my friend, when i make these videos, my main idea behind one like this is, making a video that I wish exsisted, so if no one else is going to do it, then i have to do it! Lol I got many more like this of different guns, will be releasing them soon, hope you enjoy those too!

[@FLAlesslethal]

I surely wish I saw this content before I did my hdr50...😮 It came out a beast though OMG FRFR🤘😎👍💥🙏

[@MrFrankstanks]

glad I found your channel great content man quick question what would you recommend to use to make the hole bigger on my 7.5-joule hdr I've heard some say poke a gun cleaning kit through it would it work as I am kind of scared on drilling it don't want to ruin it.

[@survivalcampman]

Thank you my friend! I am glad you have found my Channel, Welcome! So if you do not want to drill. You could simply buy the 11J Valve, it comes with the 11j disk and the screw threads inside the co2 chamber tube if you want to upgrade with a kit. Just take out the 7.5 valve system and replace it! MSC sells them! Just search 11 Joule Valve, at MSC they are $68.93USD

[@Idontlikethisname-zy3zn]

nice work! thank you! Question: is the rubber bullet always in the revolver plate and only gets forced by the air into the barrel when firing? I guess there is no bolt action that seats the bullet into the barrel before firing. Is it correct?

[@survivalcampman]

Thanks! & Correct. When the revolving cartrige lines up with the barrel the black air tube with 3 rounded slits moves forward slightly touching the projectile and at the same time give a spirt of Co2 or Air depending on your set up and Wella! it flies through the air.

[@ModernHippieAirgunner]

Get yourself a z- chamber extension. It will give your valve more volume.

[@survivalcampman]

Hey brother, I might try that

[@inkmore9395]

I just bought the core valve upgrade for the 11 joule which makes it almost 30 joule.. the part is at ansgear! You’re welcome ☺️

[@survivalcampman]

Thank you my Friend!

[@survivalcampman]

You can also just drill open the hole the get 25j, the 25j that ansgear sells, all it is, is a slightly bigger hole then the 11j, ive opened my 11j to its maximum potential, and you only get about 8 to 16 shots per co2 tank if your lucky. But Ide feel extremely bad for the person on the other end in a self defense situation😅😅

[@FLAlesslethal]

@@survivalcampman just pull the valve block out. Sounds like a cannon but well, just try it for damage results. You must have the restricter plate in the top of the handle though or farting will occur.

[@DynamicAthleteHub]

I have a question which one is best and easier to modify the 7.5 j or the 11 j version please help

[@survivalcampman]

Hey, The 11J would be easier If you just bought the mod for it, since drilling either of them is more time consuming and difficult to do. It honestly depends on what you would find difficult, ide say just get the 11J and change the round screw disk inside the handle pressure chamber where the Co2 goes, and take out the Regulator piece, those 2 alone should be good enough

[@zekzygaming5128]

​​@@survivalcampman What do you mean with the regulator piece? The valve block?

[@survivalcampman]

Yes the piece that everyone pops out, but this isn't necessary if you don't want to take apart the gun, you can just change the disk in where the co2 goes in the handle chamber. Sorry I didn't see this. ​@@zekzygaming5128

[@survivalcampman]

​@@zekzygaming5128the 7.5 does not have screw threads for the little disk, just the 11j model can take this power mod almost no one mentions this.

[@trevligodmjuk2721]

Leave the cylinder open..then drill that brick in the handle too 2mm. Then the steel barrel with extender..24joule with Devastator bullets.

[@Duran1965]

I’d the cartridge that holds the ammo to spin when you drag your finger down on it

[@survivalcampman]

Yes it works just like all the other spin and shoot systems, you want to pull that trigger and fast and steady or clean as possible. Where if you pull it slowly, it wont fire consistently

[@FLAlesslethal]

What up bro, you broke it down nice for the less lethal fam. But you didn't tell us where to get that badass looking sticker flash or whatever it is that you have given it that little shine on the front sides of the Clamshell? 🤟😎👍💥 Gotta know bro!

[@survivalcampman]

Hey Brother, Its 1 inch Carbon adhesive, you can get a roll.from amazon, I use it on a few different guns, I like the look of Carbon.

[@FLAlesslethal]

@@survivalcampman cool, cool-thanks Bro! 🤟😎👍💥

[@joeheyden7238]

Will once I get one but I can put it through a 1/4" piece of PVC panel and 4" foam + a 1/2" lewin panel n it stuck in plywood at 25'

[@survivalcampman]

Awesome!

[@mario_theOne]

Do you know any negative things about the crimped pressure chamber from the valve? I‘ve heard it can explode because it‘s not threaded anymore 😮

[@survivalcampman]

That explosion happened because the doofis left a High pressure air tank with a 1100 psi regulator on it in the gun, and eventually it blew, its only designed for 800 to 950 max psi, although you can have 1100 psi in it for short term use. But he left it in his gun un attended for days. Its not smart to leave pressure in these guns, they need to be de- pressurized after each use.

[@survivalcampman]

The black pressure holding tube attatched to the firing mechanism has always been crimped they had no reason to make it a screw tight fit, because it was never designed to withstand anymore preasure then co2 pressure. When dumb a$$'s put in high pressure regulators 1100 plus and wonder why it exploded, well thats cuz there mentally challenged.

[@mario_theOne]

I‘ve called Umarex in germany and they said the same so that really makes sense 😅 I have also converted the gun to HPA but don't leave it overnight at 1100 PSI. Anyway thanks for the answer ✌️

[@JohnGjertz]

Hi! In Timestamp; 23:40 - 49 etc. Why can't you just remove the whole piece "valve"/insert/reductor or what it is called. Like in the 11 Joule version? Would it not be much simpler?

[@survivalcampman]

If you did that then all of the co2 would be released when firing, There needs to be an air restriction hole, the size of the hole changes the amount of co2 pressure and gas that gets let off each shot. the volume of pressure builds up and when you hit the trigger the co2 is released, You can do this with the 11J because you still have the little disc with the small hole in the middle inside the black co2 tube, but the 11J restrictor piece is completely different it is just a piece if metal in place to hold back some valume, its a weird engineering flaw I think, the 7.5J does not have one of these discs or even have the screw threads to be able to take one. The kits for them exspect you to just cram it into place. and it will fall out time to time. The best gun to Buy is the 11J verson, easier to deal with,

[@survivalcampman]

or if you have the 7.5 then you can buy the 11J valve and replace it

[@user-eb4iq2jw3y]

Thank you SO MUCH for this video.

[@survivalcampman]

No problem my Friend, Glad to help

[@losttapes1705]

Brilliant, cheers! What did you widen that hole inside the core with?

[@survivalcampman]

Thanks! I used a 1/16 drill bit, and went %95 the way through. Then near the end carefully open it. It doesnt take much.

[@taureansoldier]

Thanks for the very informative video buddy not many like this on yt

[@survivalcampman]

No problem 👍 my friend! I will continue to bring more like this! I appreciate you

[@survivalcampman]

@@taureansoldier Hey Brother, How did you make out? Get any work done on it since this message?

[@autolufs]

I've heard after opening and closing the co2 activation button for awhile the crimped valve begins to wear down and malfunction (explode) do u know anything about this?

[@survivalcampman]

@autolufs that has happened to people who leave thier hpa bottles connected without de-pressurizing the chamber for storage, the co2 chamber was only ever intended for 1000psi for short perioid, you are sappose to depressurize the gun after each use, but if you want to add a hpa tank with line adaptor and leave 1100psi pressure in it. Exspect it to explode. Never go above 1100psi and always depressurize after each use. Co2 or HPA

[@FLAlesslethal]

Hey bud, where did you get the laser and what color is it? Is there a light or no? I know I have already said it but great vid content 🤘😎👍💥

[@survivalcampman]

Thanks Brother, its either a Feyatcha laser or a Pinty laser from Amazon, the Low profile/pictinney also is a pictinney itself and can attach other things to it, no light, just a red Laser, thanks for watching my friend!

[@FLAlesslethal]

Is it rechargeable? 🙏

[@survivalcampman]

​@FLAlesslethal No but the battery lasts a long time, those batteries are cheap too usually get them from the Dollar store. But they do make the same one rechargeable, for a little more usually

[@-Jay-001]

Great video 😊

[@survivalcampman]

Thank you my Friend! Glad you liked it!

[@turijdragonfly]

Complimenti, volevo chiederti,se sfilata aria dalla valvola PIN che cosa è dovuto? Quale o ring si deve cambiare?

[@survivalcampman]

Im not sure what you mean, What part of the gun are you talking about? Sorry my friend, I am using google translation, Sometimes It does not translate good

[@turijdragonfly]

@@survivalcampmanesce aria dalla valvola PIN ,sfiata

[@survivalcampman]

​@@turijdragonfly there might be dirt inside, it may need cleaning and use Silicone on the airtight parts, You may need new o-rings, I will send you links for a pack of O-rings and silicone. Try checking all air seal areas, and try wiping everything down and re-lubracating. Let me know if you fix the issue! O-rings LINK: www.amazon.ca/Dokpav-Assortment-Insulation-Professional-Connections/dp/B09NLM58XJ/ref=pd_ci_mcx_mh_mcx_views_0?pd_rd_w=Y1DB6&content-id=amzn1.sym.d89e4a4e-5696-4c12-9830-260f358f425a%3Aamzn1.symc.40e6a10e-cbc4-4fa5-81e3-4435ff64d03b&pf_rd_p=d89e4a4e-5696-4c12-9830-260f358f425a&pf_rd_r=3CHAQ32S8HQ470NWR1E4&pd_rd_wg=QyNeb&pd_rd_r=0b506e1d-18d7-4006-8a2b-aa32fe88f319&pd_rd_i=B09NLM58XJ Silicone LINK: www.amazon.ca/hz/mobile/mission?p=7TRwM9dEN9ZlHCvxD0EEatjnJGPA3RtlsLbfp9X2yKEqFq9UxR495QxF21fsANEcFY02mSCw68uD0jna6uGRO2e9agPEW4lg2j6hidj4R13B4Ar6wtPCGYx%2FRhADDgH25Z6XpI8L7Qy6gxBPSwZg95dS5scDAebzC1bBDYRtEw6QDhoelnIfF167qbhAH%2FtUvsP%2FHN8lK5JXsBp%2BK66eWud56%2Fc1BaaI%2FFAYBGJ2RT4Il5MuOpa9t4%2BWffuGwf%2BnlgaU92ojNqhyPeCiKIG1IRLN6oqL6ma7fyhuiicZqXb8CaRD%2F2od3fvuCkwBrl1a9WSXBHqQtru1CCCztpnHk1ug%2BOL2%2FQD%2FUE5%2Bp%2Fl7F3RqTiIEAz%2Bkcu2Bh8t0PnpaUEd38I7jEMaZ7y7GPNjek%2Be8zaSG4YFq2ddPZeQkoRzfuBJR5zD6hpw0efzqh7Yl&ref_=nb_sb_ss_di_ci_mcx_mi_ci-mcx-ksf1_5&crid=2STKMKGJXFDQ0

[@mike75369]

Hi wich size have you use to drilling the valve of the 7,5j ? Tanks for your video and your explanation.

[@survivalcampman]

Hey Brother NP happy to provide to all my brothers in the world, I used a 1/16, and do NOT drill all the way through, you want to almost drill all the way through, when you get near the end, then you can start to open the whole by 1/10 of a mm at a time, you dont want the hole too big, about 2 to 3 times bigger then it originally was, remember you can only get so much FPS out of co2 cuz it only has 700 to 900 PSI of pressure depending on Temperature, if you make the hole too big, then you wont get as many shots from 1 tank, and make sure its the right hole, its tiny if you cant see if try using light to shine through, its the size of a human hair its tiny, so only make it 2 times to 3 times the original size, with a standard rubber ball which normally shoots 270fps to 310fps, without modifying, ude normally get about 45 shots on average, after modification, it will shoot at 375 to 500, depending on temperature, the first 12 shots are always the best, and you should be able to get 27 to 35 shots all together before it runs out. Also by adding on a barrel extension that is all the same diameter from load to tip, then that will increase it by 30 to 60 fps, just by adding on the extension. Also, ( it can take a long time to drill the hole, the metal is very dence and hard, using a hand drill will take a while) if you have a big powerful drill from a shop, then it wont take as long. But keep checking the hole after each time you retract drilling even if its just a 30 second session, check it every time, and if you cant see it good, use a small light, or a magnifying glass.

[@mike75369]

ok thanks for this big explanation. Your videos are helpful for me. You win a subscriber 😉

[@survivalcampman]

Let me know how to make out!

[@mike75369]

@@survivalcampman sorry if m'y english is not good, i'm from Belgium

[@survivalcampman]

@@mike75369 All good my Brother, KZbin doesn't notify me on Comment Replies, So sorry to anyone that I miss

[@Spitzname66]

Thank you 🙏

[@survivalcampman]

@@Spitzname66 your Welocme!

[@joeheyden7238]

Bro I have a 7.5 j marker I took all the junk out and changed the pin up front got the mod pin to puncture and it screams

[@survivalcampman]

Nice! Did you test it out on a chrony yet?

[@FLAlesslethal]

It screams isn't even the word for it- gotta wear ear muffs. Hey @survivalcampman i have a very important question about one spring in the 7.5. I took a picture. Can I show it to you. The markers finished but the trigger spring is wound the opposite way that yours shows. I gotta show you this bro it's crazy! And thanks for the video nice...

[@FLAlesslethal]

But it def screams! But I just gotta show you this it's bugging me as to how or why ? It's the 7.5 but I swear to you the trigger spring well the long side of the spring comes wound off the opposite side of yours crazy huh...

[@survivalcampman]

​@FLAlesslethal hey brother, for some reason youtube doesnt notify me when I get more replies on reply comments, I dont know how i missed this. If yoou find me on FB you can send the picture

[@alexanderriot3693]

Can you do that to HDP 50,please ! Nice voice btw

[@survivalcampman]

Yes! I am ordering one soon, so as soon as I get it, ill make a video for that too! Thanks for watching and commenting! :)

[@survivalcampman]

Im glad someone out there enjoys my voice and listening to me lol! 260 awesome people so far if you Subscribed, Thank you! I put out a few videos a month

[@Cheekyclunky]

Thank you, tasty geezer.

[@survivalcampman]

Your Welcome! Glad you enjoyed it my friend! Kudos!

[@johnlomax7708]

Does the 16j valve fit in the hdr 50?

[@survivalcampman]

Probably not, it would not be necassary anyways, youd just have to drill open the gas escape hole the same diameter as the 16j hole. Basically, the best thing to do is, get a chrony, and slowly open the air hole by 1/10th's of a mm, or 1.6ths of a 1/16th, Your only going to get so much out of a Co2 tank and the size of a 16j air port is probably the max optimumization for it. I find 12.5 to 14.5 j is perfect, decent power fair amount of shots. Let me know your thoughts. Thanks for tuning in!

[@amazingvideos4all-bm3oc]

Thank you so much bro!! This video is exactly what I needed! CAnt thank you enough for the details as you basically saved me. Hit me up if you come to Maui!! Cheers!! Kc

[@survivalcampman]

No problem, Glad I could help!

[@andreasp.8755]

Thanks alot

[@survivalcampman]

Hey, No Problem My pleasure! Glad I could help!

[@ricardoneves356]

What if i cut the spring a litle bit? It Will give more power? Because that aloud the valve open more time until close again. Make sense? Thanks

[@survivalcampman]

NO Brother! Dont cut any springs, that will ruin the whole mechanism.

[@survivalcampman]

Co2 only has so much psi pressure,750psi to 900psi (depending on temperature) so you can only get a rubber ball to maximize around 500 fps with a standard co2 tank. Also a barrel extension adds on an extra 40fps depending on length And if you decide to attach High Pressure air HPA to it, dont go above 1100psi and ALWAYS de-presdurize after each use. Even with Co2 it should be de-pressurized after each use. These things were designed to function the way they were built, you can only optimize them so much from original factory production state. Without completely changing the guns structure

[@survivalcampman]

Let me know your thoughts, Im hear to help anytime brother

[@ricardoneves356]

@@survivalcampman Make sense! Thank you 👍🏻

[@survivalcampman]

@@ricardoneves356 NP, Anytime my Friend!

[@noobt4eguns]

Nice video ❤👍🏻🇨🇾

[@survivalcampman]

Thank you brother!

[@noobt4eguns]

@@survivalcampman thank you for helping others buddy ❤️

[@lucid4thdimension334]

💯

[@hymlog]

...Will you show us Everything??

[@survivalcampman]

What do you mean? I covered everything