LG C3 vs Samsung S90C vs Sony A80L OLED TV Comparison

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@DasTechGuy
@DasTechGuy Жыл бұрын
Can confirm that the BestBuy Geek Squad protection does indeed cover burn-in/image retention. I had the 5 year plan on my 2016 LG OLED C6P that started to go bad in the center of the display and at the end of additional warranty timeframe I upgraded through the protection plan to a 2021 LG OLED C1. Paid the difference in the cost of the 2 displays so I was only out about $400 and I got a massive increase in brightness and a bump in screen size.
@paws315
@paws315 Жыл бұрын
Did you game on your C6P? How would you describe the burn in?
@DasTechGuy
@DasTechGuy Жыл бұрын
@@paws315 I gamed on it for basically the entire 5 years using XBOX One X, a PS4 Pro, and a PC. Had no complaints at all for the gaming experience. The burn-in actually started from Assassin’s Creed Origins given how insane the brightness for the HDR was in that game at times. To that end, it was in the middle of the display and unless you had a orange-ish/yellow-ish color around the middle of the display it wasn’t really that obvious to see. I noticed it but if you were to ask my wife she would have been oblivious.
@paws315
@paws315 Жыл бұрын
@@DasTechGuy thanks! Odyssey was on my backlog, now I'm second guessing it. Is HDR even worth it 🤔
@DasTechGuy
@DasTechGuy Жыл бұрын
@@paws315 Oh absolutely! HDR is a game changer! To clarify, I ran AC: Origins within the first couple hundred of hours of run time on the display. Those first few hundred hrs are super crucial for settling the panel and it is far more susceptible to burn-in. After about 300 hrs or so, the OLED panel will have settled and will be far less susceptible to things going bad quickly. Not saying it’s then completely safe but so long as you don’t have the brightness completely cranked to 100% and leave a static image on-screen for 20+ minutes without any interaction at all your chances for severe burn-in is lessened considerably. LG made a ton advances for the display panel in later models and from the 2019 models on the risk for burn-in keeps getting less and less even from the get-go.
@christophersamudio4159
@christophersamudio4159 Жыл бұрын
That protection plan seems totally worth then👀
@madpistol
@madpistol Жыл бұрын
I bought a 65" C3 because of this video. As Vincent said, everything just works. It detects everything correctly, it sets up everything, and it switches seamlessly between different sources. The picture is stonkin good too; if you're worried about it being too dark, don't be. It's way brighter than my previous LG CX.
@usjta
@usjta Жыл бұрын
Agreed, got a 55" and for gaming it's amazing
@rudyg6922
@rudyg6922 Жыл бұрын
@@usjtamake sure you have tone mapping on not hgig much brighter image.
@fabolousjada5070
@fabolousjada5070 Жыл бұрын
Yup just switch modes for diff type of shows movies etc
@alexandrosprodromos8836
@alexandrosprodromos8836 Жыл бұрын
I own a BX and I’m thinking to upgrade to C3 or S90C. Did u see a more punchier image compared to CX?
@tizio2332
@tizio2332 Жыл бұрын
​@@usjtahow do you fix the colour banding problem? I just bought one and it's amazing for movies, but when i use it with games the colour banding is atrocious
@gbej1
@gbej1 Жыл бұрын
I always feel I get smarter every time I listen to Vincent talk about TVs
@callumomalley2515
@callumomalley2515 Жыл бұрын
Can someone give some examples why the s90c colours are frustrating in gaming? Any images I can actually look at?
@MrGts92
@MrGts92 Жыл бұрын
If you want to hate yourself as balance, go listen to Quantum 😂
@soulscape5083
@soulscape5083 Жыл бұрын
Imagine him talking about quantum physics, philosophy etc…
@BaSiC47
@BaSiC47 Жыл бұрын
I feel the opposite after watching CNN.
@gbej1
@gbej1 Жыл бұрын
@@BaSiC47 😂
@NvikIngsN
@NvikIngsN Жыл бұрын
I get so fried out watching all these reviews that I end up getting nothing. Then I'm like ok, I think this TV will work for me! Then you look at some more reviews and it's a whole new situation of you should wait for the next model that will drop early 2024... Guess Black Friday will probably be the answer... Lastly, thank you for stating above the LG C3 looks to be the best seller this year.
@WhiteCoCo1997
@WhiteCoCo1997 Жыл бұрын
Same 😓 Super indecise among LG C3, Sony a90j, and Panasonic lz1500. Did you end up getting anything, though?
@NvikIngsN
@NvikIngsN Жыл бұрын
@@WhiteCoCo1997 I ended up getting the LG C3
@GiacomBono
@GiacomBono 7 ай бұрын
@@WhiteCoCo1997 same for me, but i have decided to go with the c3, in italy the samsung s90c and the lg c3 55 inches have the same exact price on amazon around 1149 euros!!!...My previous tv is an LG and after 4 years it still kicking and punching very well!!!!
@josuexq
@josuexq 6 ай бұрын
​@@NvikIngsN how you doing so far with the c3
@NvikIngsN
@NvikIngsN 6 ай бұрын
@@josuexq Doing great. People really notice the deep blacks and all the other colors. If you're watching and old movie or anything badly made you'll see blooming. Otherwise it is great watching a TV where the pixels are their true color.
@TheEclectic
@TheEclectic Жыл бұрын
Congrats on the Best Buy sponsorship. You deserve it for the incredible work reviewing these TVs. Can't wait to see your comparison of the top line models for these three manufacturers!
@Disneyforlife14
@Disneyforlife14 Жыл бұрын
Most of us miss the days of non bias flagship reviews not shilling midgrade hardware to clear Best Buys overstock. If we wanted to see Best Buys sale ad we would just go to their website...
@bigbadslimee
@bigbadslimee Жыл бұрын
​@@Disneyforlife14non of these TVs are midrange
@zr1cvette
@zr1cvette Жыл бұрын
@@bigbadslimee1000 percent agree definitely not mid range by any means. All 3 of these TVs be great depending on ones needs. I hate when people say that about these TVs. That’s like calling a Ferrari 488 mid because it’s not a LA Ferrari lol. I have an A80K it’s the farthest from mid range. Recommended a C2 to my uncle it’s fantastic too. Now my X90J is probably a little closer to mid but you can notice the A80K just looks better for movies and gaming. Like noticeably. I would say SDR is close but that’s crap off a cable box and a lot of programs not shot in 4K.
@jayman3575
@jayman3575 Жыл бұрын
not gonna lie i feel like you've done more thorough testing comparisons in the past..i was looking forward to learning how you analyzed the processor in each with different contrast moving tests as im still debating which i will buy this week....tell best buy to pay you more!! lol
@rooknacc1
@rooknacc1 Жыл бұрын
What one did you get?
@MikeTarlton
@MikeTarlton Жыл бұрын
S90C is a software update away from greatness or even more issues. It’s always a roll of the dice with a new software update from Samsung.
@Q_QQ_Q
@Q_QQ_Q Жыл бұрын
Samsung doesn't last long .
@jacko523
@jacko523 Жыл бұрын
I had a q90 samsung. Just stopped working randomly. Swear an update ruined it
@yashudiggavi7763
@yashudiggavi7763 Жыл бұрын
​@@jacko523hey I'm thinking to buy Samsung 55S90C.? Is it worth it? All the features and all good? Could you please reply?
@calgary2800
@calgary2800 2 ай бұрын
@@jacko523 I don't update any electronics I own if its working as I like, not worth the risk.
@azure8285
@azure8285 Жыл бұрын
Hi Vincent! Thanks for all the information, I have a question that it's answer doesn't seem to be anywhere on the net including RTINGS, by any chance do you know the input lag of the LG C3 when VRR is enabled? Thank you!
@tren380
@tren380 8 ай бұрын
15ms
@ZlyTomasz
@ZlyTomasz 5 ай бұрын
1080p and 4k / 120hz hdr in gaming preset 5ms, 1080p and 4k / 60hz hdr in gaming preset 14ms, measured by polish tv reviewing portal
@PogueSquadron
@PogueSquadron Жыл бұрын
So many caveats with each TV. C3 loses lighting during game mode. C3 apparently has very noticeable color banding in game mode. C3 has worse color uniformity, but a polarized screen which looks black in all conditions. C3’s screen will look like a mirror in some conditions. S90C will have very obvious macro blocking and artifacts when streaming or using low bitrate content. S90C has the sluggish menu and apparently less color accuracy. S90C may have raised black levels in ambient lighting like a CRT. A80L has lower input lag and aggressive ABL. Do you get the S90C for the insane pop and wow factor when gaming? Or the C3 for a better overall picture when streaming and less frustrating software? It’s like Sophie’s Choice trying to pick a mid-range OLED for me.
@ychongy
@ychongy Жыл бұрын
S90c for gaming picture. You can always change to google chrome cast or a tv box for software but you cant add more brightness to a tv.
@ChrisDavis333
@ChrisDavis333 Жыл бұрын
I know, it’s fucking annoying. I don’t want to deal with returning a big ass tv when I find out it’s a piece of shit. Just to roll the dice again on one of the 2 remaining brands.
@Jza-GZa40k
@Jza-GZa40k 11 ай бұрын
@@ChrisDavis333 Then go for the Mini LEDs or QLEDs
@floz9718
@floz9718 Жыл бұрын
Good brief comparison between these very popular midrange models. However, I miss Vincent's very detailed in- depth comparisons of two models he used to do. These were very helpful to decide which TV was the best for your needs. He might do those kinds of comparisons again with the flaggship models - fingers crossed ;)
@ezakustam
@ezakustam Жыл бұрын
@makoto5280 Different perspectives from different expert is useful, and having more information available from those experts is better for those who can understand it. Summaries are useful, but so is full coverage. Why not both?
@floz9718
@floz9718 Жыл бұрын
@makoto5280 Well, it's usually quite helpful if you have a perspective in relation to other models. If Vincent says:"Model X handles near black pretty good", for example, it would be helpful to know what exactly that means. How much difference does it actually make if you put it next to model Y. When I bought my last TV (a 2020 model) he did those kind of videos to compare the models of the time. I was buying either the LG CX, Sony A8 or Panasonic HZ 1000 and Vincent's "vs- videos" were very helpful for that decision.
@floz9718
@floz9718 Жыл бұрын
@makoto5280 Vincent actually reveiled/found out more details quite a few times in the comparisons/vs-videos. Either because he went into more detailes the second time around or there was some kind of update in the meantime.
@floz9718
@floz9718 Жыл бұрын
@makoto5280True - it doesn't. However, it's pretty much the best one can do for deciding which TV to buy alongside with reading impressions of actual owners on the common froums. Comparing TVs in a brightly light store is pretty much useless ime. I have a store nearby which has all the major flaggships on display and I can tinker with them in the store (aka putting them in FMM and watch some YT- demos) and honestly, in these lighting conditions all Oleds look pretty much the same. The QD-Oleds did look a bit punchier/more colourful and I coudl see the raised blacks on the QD-Oleds but other than that it's hard separate them (I didn't see the G3 with MLA in person yet though). The areas I am interested in like near black presentation, accurate/natural colours and brightness detail/dynamic range are simply not showing in a bright store, you have to watch them in a dark room to judge that.
@DM-rc4yu
@DM-rc4yu Жыл бұрын
Honestly, it feels most of the things this channel goes bigger depth into are something that most normal users would never notice themselves. All of these TVs have some pretty basic picture issues that never get mentioned and at the same time great importance is given to displaying "creator's intent" accurately.
@Im_Procrastinating
@Im_Procrastinating Жыл бұрын
Am I the only person with an A80L who actuslly turns down the brightness? At times I find it way too bright
@Setzer777
@Setzer777 Ай бұрын
I'm laughing at some of the comments on here that say the A80L is too dim and doesn't have impactful HDR. These are people who never owned the TV.
@bosoxdanc1
@bosoxdanc1 Жыл бұрын
I was originally somewhat bummed that I was sent a gen 1 65" S90C from Samsung, but, man, this thing is wonderful. Absolutely beautiful for movies and while I have noticed the motion issues here and there, it really doesn't detract from the experience for me.
@sicnarf6971
@sicnarf6971 Жыл бұрын
whats the differene between gen 1 and 2?
@Cagefighter
@Cagefighter Жыл бұрын
​@@sicnarf6971twice as durable
@ChrisDavis333
@ChrisDavis333 Жыл бұрын
How did you figure that out?
@Brytech1216
@Brytech1216 Жыл бұрын
Try using custom option on the picture clarity setting/ motion. Set them both to 0 if you don’t like motion interpolation but it should fix the stutter issue
@cobrachannel100
@cobrachannel100 11 ай бұрын
Have the same TV and also gen 1 based on reddit test. Movies look stunning on this TV; however, sports and other SDR content (HD in general) not perfect. I have found settings that I feel comfortable with that content though; thus, pretty happy.
@samuelm4021
@samuelm4021 7 ай бұрын
Just got a LG C3, love it. 5 full years of warranty from Costco.
@bungeegums
@bungeegums 6 ай бұрын
How much did you buy it?
@FarhoodEnsan
@FarhoodEnsan 5 ай бұрын
Costco currently selling C3 77” for $1999 including a 5 year warranty.
@Thryfte
@Thryfte 3 ай бұрын
Make sure it includes burn-in, many people say Costco warranty does not.
@sammy-z7d5k
@sammy-z7d5k 2 ай бұрын
lol my new samsung 1080p tv i bought this year is better then your garbage 4k lg tv.....
@freighttrain10
@freighttrain10 Жыл бұрын
Im a Sony guy, but the input lag and 2.1 HDMI ports are sending me in LG's direction. I can't go with Samsung because they won't use DolbyVision. It really sucks because its rare to not be able to find an app on Google TV.
@hastensavoir7782
@hastensavoir7782 Жыл бұрын
Dewit
@ErikOsterkamp
@ErikOsterkamp Жыл бұрын
I hate that I’m comparing Sony’s two 2.1 ports and LG’s choice to go with a 1.0 ATSC Tuner instead of 3.0.
@colk41
@colk41 Жыл бұрын
Lg c3 all the way , or wait for the c4 which rumours says it’s going to be a beast
@freighttrain10
@freighttrain10 Жыл бұрын
I actually went with the Sony A80L. I was able to get an Open Box with all accessories and no issues for $1350 - tax included. I always thought that a 4k Blu Ray player should be on a 2.1 port, but later learned that only gaming benefits from it. Also I got the 65, and I'm far from a pro player, so it's incredibly unlikely that I'd notice the Input Lag. If price was equal, I would have gone with the LG, but the price was too good to pass up.
@hastensavoir7782
@hastensavoir7782 Жыл бұрын
@@colk41 how “beast” of an WOLED tv would it be if there is MLA and QD-OLED panels?
@theMaster...
@theMaster... Жыл бұрын
Perfect timing, my Sony 4K TV blew up last week after 8 years of hard labour, and I'm looking to now upgrade to an OLED...
@fawkkyutuu8851
@fawkkyutuu8851 Жыл бұрын
what do you mean "blew up"?
@twinblades-thewilltokeeplo6084
@twinblades-thewilltokeeplo6084 Жыл бұрын
​@@fawkkyutuu8851Boom!! Like exploded.
@theMaster...
@theMaster... Жыл бұрын
​@@fawkkyutuu8851Backlight issue I think. 6 red blinks...
@Q_QQ_Q
@Q_QQ_Q Жыл бұрын
My old LED still working Sony. I think it'll still work even another decade. BTW it runs 24x7 .
@thanksyoutubefortakingmyhandle
@thanksyoutubefortakingmyhandle 10 ай бұрын
​@@Q_QQ_Qsame I have a A8F 65" 4k OLED in living room and have left it on so many times on ps5 home screen, zero burn in. Got it in 2018, hoping it doesn't blow up lmao. What's wild is the 65" a8f is going for like $600 if you can find one in stock. While the 48" a90k is going for over twice that at $1,400.
@Momo-yl3hs
@Momo-yl3hs Жыл бұрын
I was waiting for final verdict at the end of the video, and what I’m getting is an ad for BestBuy 😂
@dannyumana143
@dannyumana143 10 ай бұрын
Same, I am looking at all these tvs and need someone's professional opinion to help me decide. Lol
@gerarldsvv
@gerarldsvv 10 ай бұрын
I can’t decide between lg or Samsung
@andyalias
@andyalias Жыл бұрын
I went for the LG C3, the picture may be better (after calibration) on the Samsung but after owning two I’m sick of the software and don’t think the build quality is worth the price. The Sony was out of budget
@zack.123.
@zack.123. 6 ай бұрын
What is your experience with the LG C3 so far? How does it compare to Samsung?
@snoozegod8707
@snoozegod8707 9 ай бұрын
Just a quick observation. When I went to Best Buy yesterday…the only TV section whose TV’s that were on a timer to shut off at specific times every so often was the LG display wall. Also, the only TV on the floor with visible burn in was the s90c.
@danteblink
@danteblink Жыл бұрын
I got LG C3 65 for $1150, at that price it does not matter if the S90C is little bit brighter.
@calgary2800
@calgary2800 Жыл бұрын
How is that possible?? I paid 2300 for the 77 Samsung s90c
@danteblink
@danteblink Жыл бұрын
It was an offer here in Mexico@@calgary2800
@tizio2332
@tizio2332 Жыл бұрын
That's an amazing price! I payed 1200€ for the 55" c3. The s90 c was 1250 , but I havent the money for the extended warranty, so Samsung was not an option
@michaeldietz2648
@michaeldietz2648 Жыл бұрын
These are all good TVs but I think a lot of it is just going to come down to how peoples eyes see the TVs, To me personally I think Sony’s TVs are the best but some people have a different opinion and that’s cool. Just go and look at them all in person and shoes whichever one suits your needs and looks the best to you.
@gerarldsvv
@gerarldsvv 10 ай бұрын
Both 65’ for C3 and S90C are on sale on best buy for 1600$. Do you guys think it will drop their price even more this year? Or when is the better time to buy a new tv?
@theyouth9622
@theyouth9622 9 ай бұрын
Im wondering the same
@gerarldsvv
@gerarldsvv 9 ай бұрын
@@theyouth9622I bought a C3 there was an extra discount in bestbuy for a couple of days for around 1470$
@emerythompson8629
@emerythompson8629 9 ай бұрын
@@theyouth962255 inch is 1200 and right now for S90C
@daveroski
@daveroski 7 ай бұрын
4-25-24 Costco 1350 w 5 year warranty on 65" S90C, I still opted to buy the C3 65" w 5 year warranty for 1499
@Kevinb1821
@Kevinb1821 Жыл бұрын
I just got the Samsung s89c 77 inch tv and wow it’s amazing. The price was too good to pass up at 2000. It’s a weird tv because there’s absolutely no reviews but apparently it’s an LG c3 panel. The tv is absolutely spectacular. It has all the features I want too. The best blacks and 120hz at 4K for some great PC gaming
@JaredSchumaier
@JaredSchumaier Жыл бұрын
How is it for movies without Dolby Vision?
@tonyzeno2715
@tonyzeno2715 Жыл бұрын
Do you have any motion issues? in regular viewing or game mode? also Are you pleased by the overall brightness.. or do you see it look dim with certain scenes?
@GGg-ic9ku
@GGg-ic9ku Жыл бұрын
Just ordered my s89c to swap for my s90c at Best Buy. The 5yr BBY warr is $100 less also! It’s the SAME TV … sans the feet cover …. Amazing how all the tech reviewers completely “missed” that one … best tv value of the century so far. Dolby Vision not a concern for me, I’ve always blocked it since top calibrators I like prefer HDR10 for creators intent. Still lots of issues with DV … and all titles have an HDR version, it’s the industry standard. HDR10+ is also available in most content. DV all marketing fluff imho.
@JaredSchumaier
@JaredSchumaier Жыл бұрын
@@GGg-ic9ku the picture quality is identical to the S90C? I just got the S89C too and was just wondering if the S90C was any better
@GGg-ic9ku
@GGg-ic9ku Жыл бұрын
@@JaredSchumaierI go by what the expert tv reviewers say like Vincent here, Caleb Dennison at digital trends (he confirmed with Samsung it’s the 77 QDOLED panel) he replied in comments in a recent video I replied to. It’s the same processor per Samsungs website - Best Buy is huge and does special exclusive deals occasionally. There is an AAA Samsung affinity discount many have gotten the s90c for 1800 with warranties - only other way to get this tv cheaper. A lot of work though. I’m happy with Best Buy and only warranty that says burn in covered that I’m aware of in USA.
@RUY2323
@RUY2323 Жыл бұрын
Don’t forget to mention no Dolby Vision support for the Samsung TV and their software update always ruins the television. Lastly there’s no HGIG support for gaming
@rahb2096
@rahb2096 Жыл бұрын
Hdr10plus is indistinguishable from Dolby vision 🤡
@rahb2096
@rahb2096 Жыл бұрын
@James__Smith still regurgitating software updates? If you're that worried disconnect the internet genius. Os is a moot point lg sucks, sony is decent nothing is a great option. If you're spending thousands on a TV just get an apple tv and rarely deal with the os. Any other brainless points you wanna make?
@rahb2096
@rahb2096 Жыл бұрын
@James__Smith You sound slow James Smith. What do you need the internet on your TV for ? Oh right ads. Also another weirdo who likes his own replys.
@AndrasMihalyi
@AndrasMihalyi Жыл бұрын
and no DTS
@annix493
@annix493 8 ай бұрын
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@GatorRican
@GatorRican Жыл бұрын
It's crazy how much emphasis is placed on console gaming at 4k/120hz while the list of true games that play at those specs is so short and doesn't even include any AAA games.
@andyb9664
@andyb9664 Жыл бұрын
Most cannot even run at 60/4k 😀 Such a joke.
@M.B.o.D
@M.B.o.D Жыл бұрын
I feel like I am taking crazy pills when people talk about 4k 120hz gaming on console. That said, burn-in is a serious problem on OLEDs. I say this as someone who has had this problem on 2 OLED TVs in the past and decided to buy a mini-Led QLED for that very reason this year. Bought the TCL QM8 85". Now I don't have to face the inconvenience of turning off HUD in every game even if the HUD was helpful.
@itsjase92
@itsjase92 Жыл бұрын
Its not about 120fps, but 120hz and VRR. Many games have unlocked 60fps modes that have fps that can go into the 70s-80s which isn’t possible on 60hz
@GatorRican
@GatorRican Жыл бұрын
@@itsjase92 Name good console games that have the "unlocked 60fps modes". Bc this feature is mostly for games that play at 40fps like Horizon/GoW.
@paulcarlin5181
@paulcarlin5181 Жыл бұрын
So going from OLED to the TCL, how do you like the TCL Qm8? Debating on a 65 inch LC 3 or TCL QM8 75 inch. @@M.B.o.D
@kenski0015
@kenski0015 8 ай бұрын
Vincent, which tv would you choose from the 3 ?
@zuti071
@zuti071 Жыл бұрын
Interesting prices. Some of the same TV models sold global are almost 50% cheaper in USA than in EU & UK.
@tomblade
@tomblade Жыл бұрын
EU prices always include taxes which US prices don't. Of course they are still cheaper, but not by that much.
@hastazacharia
@hastazacharia Жыл бұрын
luck, my country has same as usa, or more cheaper , like Samsung QN90B 65inch has price $850 (promo) or S90C 55inch $1,400. and those price include tax.
@slay3rgamingyt
@slay3rgamingyt Жыл бұрын
​@@hastazachariawhich country? Malaysia?
@hastazacharia
@hastazacharia Жыл бұрын
@@slay3rgamingyt Indonesia.
@juanblanco7898
@juanblanco7898 Жыл бұрын
Is it still impossible to disable TPC and GSR protection features via the service menu on LG C3?
@mrrjimm55
@mrrjimm55 10 ай бұрын
Thanks for all your videos, I really like the s90c but I use it mostly in daytime moderately lit room, no direct sunlight or ambient light. Will this affect the black bars on this oled? Will they seem gray or is it okay to get this?
@walterverbeeck6929
@walterverbeeck6929 Жыл бұрын
No Panasonic tv? I guess this video is made for the American market, because Best Buy has no stores in Europe.
@ginarae5739
@ginarae5739 Жыл бұрын
Indeed, I'm more inclined to a brand such as Panasonic that is certified/supported by the Film industry for accuracy 🎉
@DasTechGuy
@DasTechGuy Жыл бұрын
Panasonic isn't sold at a widespread level across the US market. Wish they would come back and provide some more competition. There are a handful of places that can still sell them in the US but not major box stores that I'm aware of currently.
@zuti071
@zuti071 Жыл бұрын
Vincent took the money from BB in his pocket to make this video about few universal TV models sold across the world and now he will wait to collect money from KZbin. At least Eurpean subscribers can often see huge gap in prices regardles of taxes and curency exchange rates.
@walterverbeeck6929
@walterverbeeck6929 Жыл бұрын
@@paulocardoso9605 Yes, here in Belgium the 55 inch cost 2 999,00 €, the 65 inch 3 999,00 € and the 77 inch 4 999,00 €
@ginarae5739
@ginarae5739 Жыл бұрын
@@DasTechGuy indeed, it appears to be exclusive to 'Value Electronics NY'.. it's a start.!!
@ravind2645
@ravind2645 9 ай бұрын
Hi sir am confusing Sony A80l OLED 65inch or Samsung S90c QD OLED 65inch which is the best tv please tell me
@SC-ju5yg
@SC-ju5yg 9 ай бұрын
Not confusing at all. Samsung has the highest brightness but not as good color accuracy, motion and upscaling compared to Sony. Sony also has better speakers. If you value gaming due to low input lag and high brightness, choose Samsung otherwise go with Sony
@chasecrappel9480
@chasecrappel9480 Жыл бұрын
Hey Vincent! I know you probably don’t have the s95B in house anymore, but from your e patience with both. Would it be safe to say that they are essentially the same television? I watched your s90c review and it seemed like it was primarily software adjustments rather than anything significant. Primarily detail retrieval vs brightness.
@Captainrave
@Captainrave Жыл бұрын
As long as you don’t have the latest firmware that nerfed the S95B. Otherwise yes, it’s near the same.
@deanwilliams433
@deanwilliams433 Жыл бұрын
Never buy a Samsung first gen product. Trust me on this.
@mbz4652
@mbz4652 Жыл бұрын
​@@deanwilliams433Is the samsung s90c 55" a first gen product?
@deanwilliams433
@deanwilliams433 Жыл бұрын
@@mbz4652 technically no, the S95B is. It takes Samsung 2-3 years to work out the kinks in new tech. Sometimes less due to the volume they sell.
@yeorges
@yeorges 10 ай бұрын
So which one’s better? Did I miss it
@thanksyoutubefortakingmyhandle
@thanksyoutubefortakingmyhandle 10 ай бұрын
Same
@SC-ju5yg
@SC-ju5yg 9 ай бұрын
You only miss it if you don't pay attention though it would be nice if it was summarized at the end. There is no "best", only what is best for you, each has strengths and weakness.OLED panel hardware QD OLED S90C is the best, high brightness but not accurate in color vs LG and Sony. Samsung and LG has lower input lag, better for gaming vs Sony. Sony has the best upscaling, motion and color accuracy but doesn't go as bright. Software goes to LG and Sony, Samsung is worse.
@omnomnomagon223
@omnomnomagon223 Жыл бұрын
Hi vincent, question do you take features like dolby vision and hdr10+ into account when you choose a tv? We run our content off an nvidia shield and would really want a tv thats great in dark scenes but we arent sure how important it is to get dolby vision or hdr10 plus.
@coalregionrider18960
@coalregionrider18960 Жыл бұрын
Dolby vision isnt even comparable to hdr10 + . You want dolby vision for shur. Im done buying samsung tvs
@rahb2096
@rahb2096 Жыл бұрын
@@coalregionrider18960lol 🤡
@rahb2096
@rahb2096 Жыл бұрын
Nvidia shield doesn’t support hdr10 plus. Neither is much different at TVs current capabilities. Instead choose the tv that you best like and value.
@SquatchOut
@SquatchOut Жыл бұрын
I bought a Sony A80CJ and S95B last year and compared them side by side. People kept saying that Dolby Vision wasn't a big deal. I tried it out on shows that supported it, like LOTR and Obi-Wan. It does make a noticeable difference. I actually kept the Sony over the Samsung and that was a big factor. The S95B had some really vibrant color and such, but in the dark scenes with lightsabers in Obi-Wan, it was clearly a noticeably worse image overall with a lot of detail lost in the dark and some wacky things going on. Maybe if you compare TV's with just blu-ray and consoles that might be one thing, but with streaming TV the Dolby Vision definitely makes a difference in shows and movies.
@rahb2096
@rahb2096 Жыл бұрын
@@SquatchOut huh Lotr is in hdr10 plus
@revotuberacer
@revotuberacer Жыл бұрын
I would love to see a head to head between the S95C and the S90C - both in 77” which is the size I’m aiming for.
@tears2040
@tears2040 Жыл бұрын
Pointless , buy the S90C and save your money at that size.
@MirelRC
@MirelRC Жыл бұрын
If you want absolute best QD-OLED from Samsung. S95C will deliver. The colors are way more accurate on S95C, the build quality is much better on S95C. Even shadow details are way better on S95C.
@लक्ष्मीबाईथोंटे
@लक्ष्मीबाईथोंटे Жыл бұрын
S90c and s95C king 👑 of tv
@noonesmyname7327
@noonesmyname7327 Жыл бұрын
​@@MirelRCI'm just curious how you know this? If it was an older S90C it would use the gen 1 panel from the s95b. Newer builds should use gen 2 panels and be superior.
@MirelRC
@MirelRC Жыл бұрын
@@noonesmyname7327 I don't know about the panel. Those are my words after I've compared side-by-side the S95C and S90C. Some might find useless to go with S95C.
@floshi6519
@floshi6519 Жыл бұрын
Hi Vincent. What's the best 98/97 inch tv right now? Can you make a comparison?
@brianfyffe8204
@brianfyffe8204 Жыл бұрын
You said the 77 inch q90c almost always uses the q95c pannel. Did the first versions not?
@mohammedfaiisal
@mohammedfaiisal Жыл бұрын
I can't decide between A80L or the C3. I can get both for similar price. I decided to pass on the G3 because the black levels aren't as black as previous G models like G2 and G1 or even GX. So, I can't decide between A80L ans C3 and need help deciding
@greigo68
@greigo68 Жыл бұрын
The sony tvs sound great , I would go for the sony
@N0N0111
@N0N0111 Жыл бұрын
This comparison comes pretty well on time now that we are almost in the 8th month of the year. Manufactures had all the time to correct little software and firmware issues that degraded performance of quality. Finally we see OLEDs with proper EOTF tracking and a lot less black detail crushing, it is like they left the child shoe and are wearing almost adult shoes on the OLEDs side of things.
@mitehristov1701
@mitehristov1701 Жыл бұрын
0:22 0:22
@mitehristov1701
@mitehristov1701 Жыл бұрын
0:22
@mbvx7
@mbvx7 Жыл бұрын
I jut love Sony color and most important , for me, is upscaling. I have an xfinity X 1 box (1080p) and the Sony blows my mind sometimes with that signal. Waiting for Sony A80M. have the J series now.
@unknownsource4359
@unknownsource4359 Жыл бұрын
I also have a 77” A80J. Upgrade every 3 years sounds about right
@Draxxuzownzu
@Draxxuzownzu Жыл бұрын
@@unknownsource4359 How do you sell your old one? Moving a TV that big seems like such a hassle
@noegutierrez5480
@noegutierrez5480 Жыл бұрын
It sounds like if you use an Apple TV device you don’t need the “software” from Samsung so it’s the better tv BUT if you don’t use an external device like that then you’ll enjoy the LG more as its software is better….is that right? Also does the Samsung work with Dolby atmos if I want a badass soundbar?
@HectorGonzalezC
@HectorGonzalezC Жыл бұрын
Vicent can you make a video analysing and testing Samsung Smart Calibration feature vs profesional calibration on S95 OLED series?
@polksalad77
@polksalad77 Жыл бұрын
Great video as usual. With 2023 Oled's price drop,why has the price of the Sony a90k gone up by £100.00 in the uk? it makes no sense to me.
@tears2040
@tears2040 Жыл бұрын
Because the model has carried over , A90K is a 2023 model
@Gadottinho
@Gadottinho Жыл бұрын
price drop? in my country it has gone up by quite a bit, even though our currency increased its value compared to the dollar...
@mikalkielli3351
@mikalkielli3351 Жыл бұрын
should I get the LG C3 or wait for the Sony A95L?
@micker9830
@micker9830 Жыл бұрын
Massive price difference there. The choice would be G3 or A95L. Save your money and get the S90C, you won't notice the difference between that and the A95L PQ wise, unless they were side by side(even then it would be tiny) and you would save thousands of dollars, that you could use to upgrade that TV in a couple years. I have an A95K and A80J and the A95K is better, but unless they are side by side, you never notice a difference. Get a larger screen, that has WAY more impact on than anything else. The content we have right now, doesn't really push any of these TVs anyway.
@82bnelly
@82bnelly Жыл бұрын
Are the remotes user friendly for watching OTA tv? Mainly jumping back and forth between two channels? Also, what are the Picture in Picture like for the TVs? are the pictures placed side by side or is one picture placed inside of another picture? Also, can the pictures be resized?
@Ezam1991
@Ezam1991 Жыл бұрын
Should I keep the 55" S90C I got (unopened) or return it and get the 55" LG C3 for $200 cheaper? I still can't decide.
@Reoz_14
@Reoz_14 Жыл бұрын
No s90c better
@GCharlesE
@GCharlesE Жыл бұрын
The total tech protection is exactly why i buy all my electronics from Best Buy. Thanks again Vincent! I'm wondering if the 83"A80L has different specs than the smaller sizes??
@Boymeetsworld16
@Boymeetsworld16 Жыл бұрын
it does. The 83 A80L is an updated A90j. It has WLOD instead of QDLED
@AndrewB23
@AndrewB23 5 ай бұрын
​@@Boymeetsworld16the a80l isn't qd OLED at all bud
@angelnks8991
@angelnks8991 Ай бұрын
which one is best for movies now i have c2 65" but i want something bigger like 75 or 77 What difference will I see if I buy one of these compared to the c2 I have now
@Ziracho93
@Ziracho93 Жыл бұрын
Thanks for the good review! I'm looking for some advice now that I'm planning on buying a new TV, I have found some black Friday offers where I can get either Sony A80L 65", LG C3 77" or Samsung S95C 65" for roughly the same price (~2 180 Euro). I'm mainly watching series and movies via streaming services and the sofa is slightly more than 3m away from the TV. Before starting the research I was leaning towards getting a Sony as I have enjoyed previous year's version of that TV. However the discounts seems to be better for the other TVs, but maybe it's anyway worth to go for the slightly more expensive Sony. Would appreciate any advice!
@samh5886
@samh5886 Жыл бұрын
Has the samsung TVs 's auto color space bug been fixed?
@djejpro
@djejpro Жыл бұрын
Amazing and thorough comparison as always! I've read comments about the S90C having sub-par motion processing compared to Sony and even LG, as well as you mentioning the same briefly. Is this particularly for 24fps content, or is it just overall? I tend to run my displays with all motion processing off; so wondering if all 3 manufacturer would be on about the same level regarding native OLED motion performance. Also, even with all motion processing turned off, is there some proprietary base motion processing going on which differentiate them at the most basic level? Like watching a rock-solid 60fps broadcast..shouldn't they look about the same with absolutely no motion processing on?
@SolarErazer
@SolarErazer Жыл бұрын
LG and Sony have better Chips
@cobrachannel100
@cobrachannel100 11 ай бұрын
I own 65 inch s90c. I have all the artificial stuff turned off, like dynamic contrast, picture clarity, sharpness, etc. What I can say is HDR looks stunning. SDR, including shows and sports, is not perfect. I have found settings that I have applied to that content and it is still great, but not perfect. In short, if you mostly into movies, you will love this TV. Not to mention, it is rather cheap these days.
@taylorcampbell985
@taylorcampbell985 Жыл бұрын
How do I find out which panel (1st gen or 2nd gen) I have in my 65inch s90c?
@HiCZoK
@HiCZoK Жыл бұрын
Does lg c3 still changes audio mode on internal speakers to game optimizer... whenever you do anything with hdr or game on pc ?
@alexkawinski7912
@alexkawinski7912 Жыл бұрын
Hi LG or Samsung will be better for dark room ? I watch on 55 inches from a distance of 2 meters, thanks for help.
@bigcdub
@bigcdub Жыл бұрын
All three are awesome sets, can’t go wrong with either one of them, but the QD-Oled is slightly on top here. I own all three Oled and QD-Oled brands myself, just not the same exact models…
@callumomalley2515
@callumomalley2515 Жыл бұрын
Can someone give some examples why the s90c colours are frustrating in gaming? Also I’m scared I’ll regret going 120-144hz instead of buying a smaller monitor with 240hz. If I want to play intense fast paced games I think the 240hz will give me less headache
@bigcdub
@bigcdub Жыл бұрын
@@callumomalley2515 I don’t use my S95C/B for gaming. I use my 48” C1, I actually show an example of it…
@neondemon5137
@neondemon5137 Жыл бұрын
​@@callumomalley2515There's not much benefit going over 120/144hz. Unless you're a professional esports gamer, you won't notice the difference.
@jayman3575
@jayman3575 Жыл бұрын
any feedback which had the best image/motion processing for streaming 720p/1080p content? i have slingtv which isnt hdr type content...
@ArtVandelayOfficial
@ArtVandelayOfficial Жыл бұрын
Sony is always best image we know that fact
@JLP627
@JLP627 9 ай бұрын
Where I'm from there's only about a 50usd difference between the LG C3 and Samsung S95C. Which would you suggest for mostly Gaming and Movie use? Audio perfo not being a factor since I don't think most of us use the built-in speakers anyway.
@legendz408
@legendz408 9 ай бұрын
Just ordered my C3 yesterday after maybe 50 hours or so of research, so far what ive found is the C3 is best for gaming and got better overall scores compared to the s90c on the Rtings website. Only bad thing is it doesnt have Gamepass built in and it only has ATSC 1.0 if thats at all important to you but you can always buy an ATSC 3.0 tuner seperately since you have 4 HDMI ports. The c3 also has some Amazing almost gaming monitor like latency numbers at like 6 ms response time my 3000$ 35" HP Omen had a 5ms response time so i was impressed.
@JLP627
@JLP627 9 ай бұрын
@legendz408 I'm starting to lean on the C3 as well as the s95c doesn't have dts pass through. So if I play a DTS blueray I won't have that audio. Unless I upgrade my receiver which only does 4k60hz. I also hear gaming perf is just easier and stable on the c3.
@legendz408
@legendz408 9 ай бұрын
@@JLP627 it's on sale 100 bucks off, if u have a best buy membership you can get it 300$ off and the membership mid tier is only like 60 bucks and you get a 60 day return window. Best buy should hire me XD.
@JLP627
@JLP627 9 ай бұрын
​@@legendz408What about the claims of how it handles gradations? Does it look smooth or posterize in game mode or not noticeable?
@legendz408
@legendz408 9 ай бұрын
@@JLP627 on Rtings it scored slightly below the samsung and Sony competition, I suppose it depends how well trained your eye is for that sort of thing. According to the website I referred to 50% Green to 100: Green the LG scored a 6.0 as the s90c and the Sony a80l got 8.0 and above. And the 100% black to 50% blue it scored 8.0 while the rest scored a 10.
@Bklynblaze1
@Bklynblaze1 Жыл бұрын
Would you get the 77” A80L or 77” S90C. Usage is 40% 4K streaming, 30% SDR sports streaming through FuboTV and 30% PS5 gaming. Tv will be in a basement with complete light control.
@rahimi420fr
@rahimi420fr 2 ай бұрын
Great info what do you recommend for oled TV what brand I'm looking to buy it?
@SEliteGuitarist99
@SEliteGuitarist99 Жыл бұрын
Hey Vincent, can we get an updated version of the C1-3 series on PS5 settings, if they've changed at all? I just ordered a C2 and just want to know the settings on previous videos are still accurate from the expert. Or at least reply that everything from your C1 settings video is still accurate?
@Ventus7777
@Ventus7777 Жыл бұрын
I spend hours on testing when I got my C2 about 3 weeks ago and I can say they're still correct. For HDR put it in HGiG, game optimiser preset, warm 40 colors, color depth 55-60. on black levels in the game optimiser menu lower it to 8 so the colors pop more. As for the default HDR calibration in the PS5 system just leave it all on automatic and adjust the white panels when the gray squares disappears, black all the way down. The absolute key is to switch the icon on the HDMI input menu to PC, that way you will unlock the full 4:4:4 color range
@SEliteGuitarist99
@SEliteGuitarist99 Жыл бұрын
@@Ventus7777 doesn't the PS5 only have 8bit color? And the Xbox Series X 10 bit?
@Ventus7777
@Ventus7777 Жыл бұрын
​@@SEliteGuitarist99im not sure but when I open the vrr information window it says that it runs at 12b when I put the HDMI as PC. It goes to 10b when it's in auto detect console mode
@SEliteGuitarist99
@SEliteGuitarist99 Жыл бұрын
@@Ventus7777 I'll be sure to check when I get home in a few weeks from work. Thanks tho
@lmill5462
@lmill5462 Жыл бұрын
@@SEliteGuitarist99PC 12 Bit 48GB 4:4:4 , XSX 10 Bit 40GB 4:4:4 , (PS5 8 Bit 32GB 4:4:4 👎🤮) Like Vincent Said 👈
@Marcin-ip4vm
@Marcin-ip4vm 11 ай бұрын
Hey Vincent, I'm currently under the dilemma of deciding between the S90C and LG C3. My main concern is the lack of Dolby Vision in the first one. Is there any chance to get a comparison of S90C HDR vs LG C3 / Sony A80L with Dolby Vision? I've read that the S90C is superior to the LG C3, and the absence of DV is not an issue here because it won't make the LG C3 better. I just wanted to make sure that's the case.
@jcdenton868
@jcdenton868 11 ай бұрын
I already bought LG C3 before christmas and now have opportunity to return it and get S90C for 100 euros less. Dolby vision does look great on netflix but I have no doubts HDR10+ on samsung does work well too. I'm having bit dilemma should I make the change as I game a lot with tv and more brightness and color is kinda nice even though LG C3 is enough bright for me as well. It's particaly hard because I can't see anywhere in local stores these two models side by side to compare.
@AbdelOO7
@AbdelOO7 11 ай бұрын
@@jcdenton868 Yeah, but you will be let down once you find out that netflix only supports HDR10 and Dolby vision, not HDR10+. You will be missing out on that feature. Why trade a C3 for a S90C in that case?
@SiriusFPS
@SiriusFPS 10 ай бұрын
Hi, any updates? Which one did you end up with?@@jcdenton868
@ROBBIEDZ
@ROBBIEDZ Жыл бұрын
I'll be looking out for the 77in S90c during Black Friday.
@revotuberacer
@revotuberacer Жыл бұрын
Same here! It is simply the best option out there.
@HaVV0K
@HaVV0K Жыл бұрын
And I'm still here. Trying to figure out what 48' LG to buy. Take C1 for less money for got C2 with risk that I may have overpaid for C1 panel with different CPU. I've heard that 42 and 48 inch of C2 have same panels as C1. So where is point to take C2 over C1..
@TacPanini8578
@TacPanini8578 Жыл бұрын
Do I need to watch the video or can I get a quick TL;DR version? Whats the best OLED right now? For home theater purposes. 65"
@dh31409
@dh31409 Жыл бұрын
Sony A95L
@chipmunk6386
@chipmunk6386 Жыл бұрын
HELP NEEDED 🧐 I got a brand new Sony XR-83A90J With vertical banding in low light scenes primerly .! Not all the time.! Talked to Sony... Sony said, it's "normal". Should I return it to the dealer .? Can I expect the same with a new sample.? Regards. Chipmunk ✌️
@unknownsource4359
@unknownsource4359 Жыл бұрын
I would return it. If the same thing pops up on the new replacement then listen to Sony
@arturaszaleskis8907
@arturaszaleskis8907 Жыл бұрын
I would say if replacement gets same vertical line get different brand
@mbasa9475
@mbasa9475 Жыл бұрын
vincent I tried to calibrate S90C on PS5 according to you MaxFFTML should be 900nits (ps5 that would be 15 clicks) and MaxTML to 1250nits (ps5 would be 17 clicks) but when I go to 15 clicks the symbol is still far from being invisible it takes 3 -4 clicks to be invisible.. are there measurment only for XBOX? (and yes HGIG was on and dynamic tone was off)
@ejdhdjejejebdnem
@ejdhdjejejebdnem Жыл бұрын
Great review Vin, but I wish you had review all 3 tv's on the Auto dimming chapter instead of redirecting us to a general auto dimming issue. Actually the Auto dimming, ABL and image retention are the most important topic to discuss, review and side by side comparison when it comes to OLEDs, far better that picture review if you ask me, after all...almost all reviewers at the end they say that You can't go wrong with any current oled tv regarding the picture quality. However, you are the only reviewer here in KZbin ho actually test and review at some degree the Auto dimming, ABL and image retention. Anyway I'm very satisfied with your reviews in general, please keep the good work! 👍
@reanimationxp
@reanimationxp Жыл бұрын
i was looking for this content as well. i would love to see a comparison of what is achievable between the C9 to current OLEDs as far as peak brightness and how aggressive auto dimming and ABL are on each, and which ones allow it to be disabled via a service menu. is there a spreadsheet of these anywhere?
@ejdhdjejejebdnem
@ejdhdjejejebdnem Жыл бұрын
@@reanimationxp I don't know, but surely you won't see that from other reviewers like Fomo or Brian tech Terrapy, they all obsessed with picture comparisons. they put some tv's side by side to see the picture differences and they called a day. no word on dimming, etc. Keep in mind if you disable that auto dimming and abl from the service menu you will get burn in, at least I'm shore that is what happened to my C8
@bhikusa3110
@bhikusa3110 Жыл бұрын
Hi Vincent, what's your thought on Samsung CU8000 tv? Its a 4K LED panel with very thin bezels and the Tv itself is a very thin compared to Samsung's other models. Have you seen any panel heating issues in Samsung slim tv's? Because it can cause LED burning.
@allanblyth6150
@allanblyth6150 Жыл бұрын
Hi Vincent! Could you please recommend the best 65 inch TV for upscaling blu rays (I'm not interested in HDR/4k) with the best motion processing on high. I used to own a Philips TV and with all the motion processing turned on it looked 3d. I know this is unpopular and I'm sure it will come with artifacts but I'd appreciate your help Vincent
@jaguarnorman5464
@jaguarnorman5464 Жыл бұрын
I bought a new lg c3 and connected it to xbox sx but the game rendering is not output dolby vision and hdr 10 I have to set it up to succeed. But some games the performance of hdr 10 and dolby vision is showing. Most of the games are version xbox one x so I don't understand what I did wrong, but another TV lg gx shows me everything. Sorry, I use google translate. May not understand.
@GiacomBono
@GiacomBono 7 ай бұрын
Please guys help me on the final choice, i do watch so many sdr content like antenna's tv shows, than I play with my high-end pc.....should i go for the C3?
@zack.123.
@zack.123. 6 ай бұрын
I just pulled the trigger on the C3 because I mainly watch sdr and streaming content.
@GiacomBono
@GiacomBono 6 ай бұрын
@@zack.123. Hay man, thanks for the replay, me to, at the end I have bought the C3 55, and cannot be happier than now, it Is a monster, I have my high-end gaming PC connected and God this Is Amazing....and for sdr content is punching great
@zack.123.
@zack.123. 6 ай бұрын
@@GiacomBono Nice. I have an S95B that I bought last year and the C3 is on its way. Don't get me wrong the S95B is a beast but it feels more disposable than the C3 if you know what I mean.
@DevinesTech
@DevinesTech Жыл бұрын
0:10 TV in the middle looks the best with best details and color accuracy in her face. Which TV is that? A meter doesn't replace the human eye so the middle TV wins in my opinion.
@Devthemcdoworker
@Devthemcdoworker Жыл бұрын
That's isn't any of the TVs featured in this video, just some old footage Vincent like to use a lot for some reason.
@ADISTOD3MUS
@ADISTOD3MUS Жыл бұрын
It's the Samsung S90C, don't listen to bummers.
@hsingh5285
@hsingh5285 Жыл бұрын
@vincent @hdtvtest, Thank you for putting this together and your other comprehensive reviews. I am looking for 77" or 75" for my Living room /Den. The room has dark out blinds and mostly used to watch through streaming services, occasional 4k / Bluray movies, no gaming. I have Apple 4k TV /Roku 4 connected through Denon receiver and 3.1 audio set up so TV O/S and audio quality doesn't matter. Viewing distance is around 12 ft and open kitchen layout so kids watch sometimes from the dining table (at some angle). Given the prices are fairly similar between 77" S90C / 75" Sony X93L / LG C3. Which one would you recommend? Thank you in advance.
@floz9718
@floz9718 Жыл бұрын
I'd say get the S90C - it's the best value TV on the market right now. You might have to deal with some software quirks here and there - the C3 would give you a more polished software experience and probably more accurate colours OOTB but you have a risk of getting a panel with some uniformity issues like banding or pink tint - that's the reason I would go with QD-Oled but if you only watch with ambient light present, it's probably not gonna be noticeable.
@hsjossan80
@hsjossan80 Жыл бұрын
@@floz9718 Thanks. I am worried about the long term reliability of QD-Oled as highlighted in rtings review / comparison. Its a tough decision.
@JohnS858
@JohnS858 Жыл бұрын
S90c is so over-looked 🔥. For its price/ features. I cant see a reason why not. They're all magnificent Tvs either way you choose.
@AndrasMihalyi
@AndrasMihalyi Жыл бұрын
Samsung doesn't support DTS Audio nor Dolby Vision
@braulioribeiro3897
@braulioribeiro3897 Жыл бұрын
I wish Sony would just use brighter panels in their OLED’s and more dimming zones in their LED’s to at least warrant their price hikes. Manufactures are catching up to their processing.
@MrHallTV
@MrHallTV Жыл бұрын
Serious question - who’s panel would you have them use? Their normal wOLED panel tvs are from LG. Their qd-OLED panels are from Samsung. They have to buy the panel, implement it and then sell it to you. It’s always going to cost them more. And if they use LGs best panel, then they have to charge you even more. Sony will be one of the most expensive ways to buy a tv because of panel outsourcing and experience in processing.
@bigcdub
@bigcdub Жыл бұрын
Lol, I have the A95K, and I only use the brightness on 45 it’s so bright…
@tears2040
@tears2040 Жыл бұрын
You really have no idea what you’re talking about, you do understand in a dark room even 100nits full field is extremely bright. Oled TVs and actually all HDR content is meant to be viewed in a completely dark room. I own an Lg Oled and just bought the Sony Oled. The colors, processing and motion on the Sony are superior, all tv sets are more than bright enough.
@bigcdub
@bigcdub Жыл бұрын
@@tears2040 Bro, you can tell the people who have never actually owned an Oled, or calibrated one, they wouldn’t even by saying dumb stuff like that. I don’t even use the full brightness on my Oled sets…
@salesfocus6270
@salesfocus6270 Жыл бұрын
The shame is that everyone thinks that the brightness measurements mean the Sony sucks. Have you ever considered Sony go for this brightness level for a reason. If you put that Samsung on a bright screen for more than a minute it will be just as dim as the Sony..Samsung's TVs will temporary tool the test patterns but in real life the difference is difficult to notice. Actually having owned both I would much rather have the sound quality of the Sony than the HDR brightness of the Samsung. I also trust Sony build quality far more, that bending issue last year was shocking.
@akaChriss4L
@akaChriss4L Жыл бұрын
I wonder if LG c4 (2024 model) would get the MLA technology?
@etinosaoyemwense
@etinosaoyemwense Жыл бұрын
Yes
@korayus
@korayus 10 ай бұрын
No, Onlu G4 and M4 is getting MLA !
@Felix_Schmitz
@Felix_Schmitz Жыл бұрын
Prices on 2022 OLEDs are also good now. Trying to get my Hand on a C2. Hopefully the Autodimming will be adressed.
@redhatpenguin1241
@redhatpenguin1241 Жыл бұрын
It probably won’t be unfortunately. However, I haven’t noticed the screen dimming some people talk about on the C2. Granted I use SDR 95% of the time, so maybe that plays into this. Regardless, even compared to a “much brighter” samsung qled I had this tv is definitely not dim. In low light viewing it can even seem too bright at times. Only two complaints are that due to OLED panel refresh rates in general, when streaming 24fps movies, there is minimal stutter in panning shots unless I turn up the motion settings to where soap opera effect happens. And 2nd…that the screen doesn’t handle reflections all that well, but that’s due to it being glossy which is better for PQ. Sort of a trade off and I’d rather it be this way anyhow.
@redhatpenguin1241
@redhatpenguin1241 Жыл бұрын
It probably won’t be unfortunately. However, I haven’t noticed the screen dimming some people talk about on the C2. Granted I use SDR 95% of the time, so maybe that plays into this. Regardless, even compared to a “much brighter” samsung qled I had this tv is definitely not dim. In low light viewing it can even seem too bright at times. Only two complaints are that due to OLED panel refresh rates in general, when streaming 24fps movies, there is minimal stutter in panning shots unless I turn up the motion settings to where soap opera effect happens. And 2nd…that the screen doesn’t handle reflections all that well, but that’s due to it being glossy which is better for PQ. Sort of a trade off and I’d rather it be this way anyhow.
@matthiasknutzen6061
@matthiasknutzen6061 Жыл бұрын
Why i don't get is that some samsung oleds just say oleds other say QD oled, sp ar ethe "oled" ones lg display? In sween the 90C says oled inlt though.
@Chris-sl2pv
@Chris-sl2pv Жыл бұрын
Vincent question here??? You said the s90c at 77 inches will use the same panel as the s95c 77 inch tv. So does that mean the s90c will have the same picture performance? The extra bits in brightness and the better blue light output???? If so I may buy right now for the cheaper price?
@gamerss7797
@gamerss7797 Жыл бұрын
No, even though the 77" S90C shares the same panel as the higher end S95C, Samsung has limited the brightness on the S90C through firmware to match the smaller sizes.
@coryhames9331
@coryhames9331 Жыл бұрын
How will I know if my 65" S90C will have the right panel or not before buying? Not sure what spec term to look for.
@bitdevice
@bitdevice Жыл бұрын
Impossible
@reiyaa1843
@reiyaa1843 10 ай бұрын
check serial number qd oled gen 2 : FX02 qd oled gen 1 : FX01
@bobbah8
@bobbah8 Жыл бұрын
The software issues mentioned are exactly why I went with the C3 over the S90C. The picture quality isn’t better enough to deal with the frustration of using it every day
@p1st0ls44
@p1st0ls44 Жыл бұрын
The only thing about the c3 that is bad is the brightness. And while it is trash garbage in brightness, the software is legit
@ZacharyTech7
@ZacharyTech7 Жыл бұрын
Your supposed to use a TV box with it like Roku or nvidia sheild no smart person uses built in os
@Sedge86
@Sedge86 Жыл бұрын
​@@ZacharyTech7you're supposed to be able to use the software lol. The Samsung software is terrible and forces you to use a box, which has its own annoyances. Having gone recently from an LG c9 to a Samsung, LGs software is infinitely better. 😊
@Alexandrevonf
@Alexandrevonf Жыл бұрын
@@Sedge86 any tv box will be better than LG interface as well, its dirt cheap too and will last for years
@bobbah8
@bobbah8 Жыл бұрын
@@p1st0ls44 I personally haven’t found it dim at all. I use it middle of the day with 3 windows letting light into the room and it does great. @ZacharyTech7 The issue isn’t just their OS it’s their firmware which will still affect you if you’re using another streaming box. Samsung has a history of messing with picture quality through firmware updates
@charuwaka1
@charuwaka1 7 ай бұрын
Hi Vincent, Any lg c3 hacks to increase brightness.
@Christiansstillstruggle
@Christiansstillstruggle Жыл бұрын
If I want an 83 inch version which one should I go with for best value for money. I understand the 83 inch version of the Samsung is W-OLED so would the C3 be better in this case?
@SLICK8116
@SLICK8116 4 ай бұрын
Obviously
@vjhibbare
@vjhibbare Жыл бұрын
Hi! Compare to C3 and A80L which is better in color accuracy and sharp crypsi, clear images and which one u recommend.
@Q_QQ_Q
@Q_QQ_Q Жыл бұрын
Sony.
@Capitan_Cavernicola_1
@Capitan_Cavernicola_1 6 ай бұрын
I use Apple TV for media streaming (movies, KZbin, series) with occasional PS5 gaming. Would you recommend this Samsung to over LG C3? If so why? I have found both models at the same price online.
@sammy-z7d5k
@sammy-z7d5k 2 ай бұрын
lol Amazon firestick is better then garbage apple tv!
@CasepbX
@CasepbX Жыл бұрын
Waiting for the LG C4 42" to use as a monitor. Heard it will be able to do 144Hz.
@HDRGamingHub
@HDRGamingHub Жыл бұрын
You can't feel the difference between 120hz and 144hz...
@rahb2096
@rahb2096 Жыл бұрын
Why wait you aren’t gonna get mla and won’t feel the difference in hz
@concinnus
@concinnus Жыл бұрын
@@rahb2096 MLA is expensive, and not available in small sizes.
@rolandrohde
@rolandrohde Жыл бұрын
Hmmm...there is one open question I have after watching this Video...what exactly is wrong with Samsung's motion processing? Does it create more motion interpolation artifacts than the LG counterpart? More stutters? Or what? In my personal experience Sony motion processing was never particularly great. It was either stuttery or flooded with artifacts. LG was terrible in the past, but managed to catch up quite well, Philips and Panasonic were very good. Not sure where Samsung stands these days...
@cobrachannel100
@cobrachannel100 11 ай бұрын
S90C owner here. Yes, SDR, content (or upscaled HD) is rather flawed. In my opinion, it has some artifacts and grainy stuff - dont know how to even explain. In short, there are some deficiencies when watching some content from ESPN or Sling for example. BTW, I have my TV configured based on reddit where I have all the artificial image processing turned off. I have no dynamic contrast, color at 25, sharpness at 0, no picture clarity, warm2 color tone, color space 709, gamma negative 1,peak brightness and energy savings off - SDR mode. HDR, on the other hand, is absolutely stunning imho.
@ANDREWJTURNER92
@ANDREWJTURNER92 Жыл бұрын
Hey What's better 85 inch Sony x90l or 77 inch Samsung s90c?
@thewhitetyrantstore
@thewhitetyrantstore Жыл бұрын
I am confused in g2/s90c. Which should I take?
@Burritosarebetterthantacos
@Burritosarebetterthantacos Жыл бұрын
Just found out Costco is offering 5 year warranties on TV's. Best Buy can't touch that deal. Not to mention visiting Best Buy recently we were shocked at how tragic the showroom was. Time to put that membership to use!
@nachik09
@nachik09 Жыл бұрын
Lol what mate? The Costco warranty does not cover burn in. It's covered by square trade. Costco warranty doesn't touch the Bestbuy one.
@Mr21scott
@Mr21scott Жыл бұрын
? It says right in this video that BB's warranty is 5 years.
@nonfungiblemushroom
@nonfungiblemushroom Жыл бұрын
"Time to put that membership to use!" *Costco liked that... But that's just a theory....a FOOD theory!
@ChrisDavis333
@ChrisDavis333 Жыл бұрын
doesn’t cover burn in, read the fine print my friend or speak to an associate. Was just in there today, anyone suggesting otherwise is lying.
@aaronhinton92
@aaronhinton92 Жыл бұрын
Did you figure out how to disable TPC and GSR on the LG 2023 OLEDs?
@jstroffolino
@jstroffolino Жыл бұрын
He mentioned in another video, that LG pushed an update which fixed the TPC from dimming HDR scenes. But, didn't sound like you could disable it entirely.
@dbsasuke
@dbsasuke Жыл бұрын
So if my primary use case is games sounds like the LG is the best one?
@ADISTOD3MUS
@ADISTOD3MUS Жыл бұрын
No in the slightest,S90C it's better in every aspects when it comes to gaming,even in almost other aspects too. Talking from my experience.
@manojjampana3528
@manojjampana3528 6 ай бұрын
Hey.. Im very much confused between these 2 Tv’s.. LG has 3yrs warranty and Samsung has 2yrs. LG built quality is little better than Samsung i think (due to S90c laser slim panel😅).. So very confused between these two when it comes to Reliability, Long Term usage issues, service, burning, flickering, etc etc.. Also heard that some of the S90C users have been facing those above type of issues and response lagging,etc etc after few months and also after warranty🙆🏻‍♂️. Can you please help me out to get out of this situation and finalize one😅.
@nicolasnicou2859
@nicolasnicou2859 8 ай бұрын
What's the best for gaming on ps5 ..it seems prices are similar
@AntonioAvila1
@AntonioAvila1 Жыл бұрын
S94bd? Is that worth a look? I was about to pick up an s95b but this looks the same. Vincent, any news on this model?
@zr1cvette
@zr1cvette Жыл бұрын
It’s an S95B,But for BestBuy. As the Sony advisor at my bestbuy near me, I have discussed this with our Samsung advisor. Says the S94BD is essentially the S90C/S95C. He says 1599 plus a 300 gift card is a no brainer. Says the dumb one connect box and the few extra speakers on back are the only difference from 95B to 95C. Says those aren’t worth an extra 1400 at all.
@badzilla1173
@badzilla1173 Жыл бұрын
Definitely looking at the 77 s90c when it hits around 2500.
@NexGenTek
@NexGenTek Жыл бұрын
That’s not happening
@badzilla1173
@badzilla1173 Жыл бұрын
@@NexGenTek I'm gonna bet on black Friday or around there.
@micker9830
@micker9830 Жыл бұрын
Should get down to that or close, around Oct/Nov. The only issue with that, is that the new TV models are just a few months away lol. I always wait and see what the new TVs have to offer at CES and then decide if I want an older model or not. Nothing like buying something new and having regret a few months later.
@badzilla1173
@badzilla1173 Жыл бұрын
@micker9830 I don't know what samsung or lg could really do though for upgrades. I might see samsung adding a dedicated heatsink like I'm sure the a95l will have this year. Phosphor blue won't be a thing till atleast 2025. Only thing I can see lg doing might be going too 144hz themselves or if they're really itching for the gaming crowd, 240hz at a lower res since I'm not seeing much on a new hdmi format too match display port 2.1 . I feel like next year might be one of those somewhat stagnant years for tvs again.
@bushmist
@bushmist Жыл бұрын
If you have AAA the 77" s90c is $1999 directly from Samsung. Best Buy won't price match that though if you want to buy through them for the burn-in warranty.
@Alice.59
@Alice.59 Жыл бұрын
Could you make a little update on the G3 with all the new firmware update it got ? or maybe you wait for a comparison with the sony a95l ?
@dannyumana143
@dannyumana143 10 ай бұрын
Looking at LG C3 vs Sony A80L? Uses are home theatre and streaming tv/movies/shows to be paired with appletv 4K and Sonos arc, sub and rear speakers.
@sammy-z7d5k
@sammy-z7d5k 2 ай бұрын
go back to 1080p tv dude
@TooMany-t7w
@TooMany-t7w 8 ай бұрын
what was that game you were playing with the lg c3?
@randomstuff2607
@randomstuff2607 10 ай бұрын
If you purchase from sams or costco you get 5years warranty included.
@tg614
@tg614 Жыл бұрын
Great work thanks for just going to the facts but still looking hard at the QM8 and the U8K...
@chrisjohnson7255
@chrisjohnson7255 Жыл бұрын
I do not like my Sony a80k , it is just a dull picture in terms of colors popping , however watch action movies like top gun maverick or the Martian and it’s easy to see why some people pick it!
@tears2040
@tears2040 Жыл бұрын
You say it’s dull and then mention it’s amazing in action movies…….. Owning a Sony A80K you can make it as bright/colorful as you choose.
@redshine06
@redshine06 Жыл бұрын
@@tears2040do u experience black crush on yours? I just got a 77inch and I can’t stand the black crush.. I own a 65 inch also and it’s much better.
@chrisjohnson7255
@chrisjohnson7255 Жыл бұрын
I‘be tried vivid and standard settings on the tv and some other custom settings but I do not get the pop that an LG has, probably down to the coating on the screen. I don’t experience to much black crush, it usually stays well detailed in the blacks.
@redshine06
@redshine06 Жыл бұрын
@@chrisjohnson7255 yeah I think I can agree with u. I’ll return mine
@wasimakujee5627
@wasimakujee5627 Жыл бұрын
U should of got the a90j 😫
@Gadottinho
@Gadottinho Жыл бұрын
I think I actually prefer the S90C, but, unfortunately, it's more expensive.
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