HDZero vs Fatshark Avatar vs DJI Air Unit V1 vs O3 | What is the BEST HD FPV System?

[@RebelGoatFPV]

I run HDZero and it suites me well. I went with HDZero primarily because of how engaged Carl is with the community. I am also a tech geek that likes to build and tinker, I prefer the fast pace of open source (and HDZero in general). If I was a "set it and forget it" type of guy that was all about flying I might have gone another direction.

[@madman216fpv]

HdZero is a win for me...I bought the (expensive) Skyzone O4x right before the the dji v2 goggle price crash, and that was a swift kick. I love my skyzones and fly fpv in open areas, so to be able to drop this system into my existing quads and my O4x without too much effort or cash seems to be the better deal.

[@McLogo76]

I switched form analog to walksnail (the system is actually walksnail and not fatshark ;)) and I'm very happy with it. But I have also looked at and tried DJI goggles V2 and it would have also been nice... my decision was purely for the smaller goggles with adjustable diopter. And not having to register etc. I will also most probably be getting the HD-Zero goggles as I like how the system is developed and the light weight solutions. Btw. walksnail has also announced to develope a VRX module for Fatshark, Skyzone etc. goggles. I think it's great to have the choice of all systems with HD-zero and Walksnail seeming to develope a lot directly for the fpv community and DJI (wich in my opinion is not sure if they are focusing at all on fpv with their new system). So chose what you like and enjoy our great hobby ;)

[@nullfield1126]

Woah, I'm just getting into FPV and I never heard that I'd have to register to DJI. It doesn't seem like a big deal, but I'm surprised no one ever mentioned it.

[@McLogo76]

@@nullfield1126 You need a DJI account for basically any of their products / apps you want to use. There are a few people that just don‘t like the company for their methods, handling of their employees or the sale of Aeroscope systems that seem to have been misused and resulted in war crimes. So I think the thing with the account is not so in focus.

[@HalfChrome]

Remote ID isn’t necessary in a sub 250 gram drone.

[@McLogo76]

@@HalfChrome Remote ID isn‘t necessary outside of the US either 😉

[@HalfChrome]

Also true

[@ggoraa]

I'm really thinking that the industry should move to a system where goggles and the actual receivers are split, and are inter-replaceable, like it is with transmitters and bays in the back of them, which allow to install, say, a TBS Crossfire into a Taranis really easily(just pop out the back cover and put the module in). It will greatly increase the amount of goggles that you can buy, because you are not limited to the ones that support your VTX, and you won't need to buy new goggles each time an update to a video transmission system is available. It will be great for everyone.

[@EderNucci]

This is exactly what we expected to happen with mobile phone market and...sorry, will not happen. Capitalism is strong here.

[@wmnsriteslol]

@@EderNucci it is happening. Hdzero and walksnail now both have standalone modules you can connect to any goggle with an hdmi input. I just got in on the hdzero pre-order...oled screens, analog with better quality due to new interlacer, walksnail module, hdzero built in. 1 goggle to rule them all? Yes please

[@glidesfpv]

Check out the Walksnail VRX. It’s a step in that direction.

[@HalfChrome]

Agreed

[@lleston8927]

I have the DJI v2 goggles. If i has to switch I will get the walksnail after the resolve all the issues

[@skyrotfpv]

HD Zero to fly together with friends and for the support of Carl and Ryan. I am not very interested in the perfect picture as I even went back from DJI to Analog and didn't regret it.

[@choppergirl]

I remember when I first opened the box to my V1's, my heart just sank. They were ugly, they were big, you couldn't mod them, etc. I was like ok, don't panic, when you get them on your face, the outside "look" doesn't matter, the only thing that matters is the resolution. So I put them on and my heart just sunk further. It was like you were way back in a movie theater sitting in the last row. You saw all the "room" around you and it was hard to read the OSD, and worse, you had some air conditioner blasting right on your eyeballs. I flew them for 5 minutes, and never flew them again. It was like wearing a scuba gear brick on your face or facehugger from Ripley's Alien movie. Sitting in a box collecting dust along with my air units and vistas. What a total waste of money.

[@bobbafett1971]

That break up with hdzero...I get all the time on 1 watt. I'm getting walksnail or dji. I tried different antennas on vtx and I upgraded to expensive patch and LR antennas on my vrx...no difference. I dont think hdzero is there yet.

[@hristiantodorov3923]

I am using HDZero mainly because of the low latency and weight but Hdzero is not perfect yet. The edges are shimmering and this is not so noticable on the goggles but on a bigger screen it is definately very annoying. I hope they can fix this, I think this is some leftover trait from analog.

[@huangzhongyidhs4146]

Hi, does the fatshark or dji hd fpv system have a higher image quality? Thanks!

[@shaneintegra]

Do you know if the DJI googles V2 are going to be compatible with the newer DJI air units?

[@HalfChrome]

Not sure yet

[@mudkipz3213]

Josh here, I can explain a few things about walksnail for those who aren’t up to speed on it. Firstly, this Quad currently is running firmware version 23.23.4. This is not the most current version. OSD does not currently record onto DVR. It’s supposed to be something that’s added but as of the current firmware I’m using it’s not available. At the time of filming, I had an unknown to me, damaged ELRS antenna, so I flew relatively close to where I was sitting. This was not because of the walksnail vtx range. (I’ve since fixed this) The vtx does store footage on it, and it features much better video as it doesn’t need to send it to the goggles, so you’d see no breakup. You get 8Gb of storage for your videos. With the package (camera + vtx) you get an adaptor to plug the vtx into your pc via usb, and this often has a hard time reading it. For me it’s much easier to just take DVR footage off the goggles, but you could use footage from the vtx if you wanted to. Lastly, while I joke about being a beta tester of sorts, it’s really something to consider when buying walksnail or HDzero at the current moment. Both are good enough to become your main, but neither is without issues. Luckily though, both are constantly receiving attention and updates. I personally think that by the end of the year both of those two systems will be in a way better position than where they are now.

[@HalfChrome]

The Avatar/Walksnail stuff has gotten better since release and I expect it to continue to improve. It’s a solid option for sure.

[@mudkipz3213]

@@HalfChrome yeah I agree. They’re constantly making updates to improve the performance of this system.

[@HalfChrome]

That’s the thing with HDZ and Fatshark they are constantly making improvements and taking input from FPV pilots.

[@chrisbee5481]

The up coming air unit O3 isnt new just from the new avata. Occusync 3.0 has been out for a while and on fpv feed first in the DJI FPV drone. Already when the dji fpv drone came out I was wanting that fpv system to be released as a new air unit. Thanks for the comparison. Personally I'll stick to dji, as I am already heavily invested in it. Important for further investments in dji will be the compatability between the old and new air units and goggles.

[@HalfChrome]

Yes. O3 has been out for a while and is looking better and better

[@stst8301]

If the new air unit 03 will not be compatible, to force people to buy new goggles receivers cameras etc that will not be good for Dji

[@gloomiehoodie]

DJI leads hands down, followed by HDZero. While Fatshark is the oldest company of the group, while they should have been the pioneer in the digital HD game, they are miles behind DJI and DHZero. #1 DJI Air system #2 HDZero #3 DJI old HD #4 Fatshark

[@leonardoondoy5619]

Hi! Can we used the dji googles v2 with walksnail avatar?

[@HalfChrome]

No

[@leonardoondoy5619]

@@HalfChrome Thanks! I'm waiting for my order cinelog 20 with walksnail avatar hd fpv system and very exited only to find out that im making a mistake and cannot used it to my dji fpv system. Dang Beginners!

[@Dan-nj8du]

One thing rarely brought up in these reviews is the FOV inside the goggles. I dipped my toe into FPV with the FatShark analog and the only thing worse than the poor image was the tiny screen. I'm happier with the DJI FPV but have to wonder how these newer systems compare with FOV, not just image quality.

[@MrIndyjonescj]

Great video bro! I'm personally tired of being a guinea pig for the HD crap! Fatshark came out (kind of) with the Byte Frost system, then the shark byte system, and now the Avatar system! They Market us into purchasing hundreds of $$'s worth of equipment for HD video that never works correctly only to crapcan the entire system and move to something that they want us all to spend hundreds more $$"s worth of equipment, only to do the same thing again! I'm done with the HD stuff! The only company that puts out a system that works correctly from the beginning is DJI, so I"m done with HD. I'm done being an unpaid goof beta tester idiot!

[@HalfChrome]

That’s fair

[@SeeFPv-qm6ie]

avator already has a 1s vtx just like hdzero I think it's better because of video quality, I think.

[@HalfChrome]

It is heavier. A few grams makes a difference in a whoop

[@ocdraridrogonel]

I still don't understand what constitutes a system to be analog, no one is breaking that down they just keeps saying that one is analog one is digital, does it make it analog because it is using physical antennas? but doesn't the digital use physical antennae as well? Is it analog because it is milliwatts and digital is ghz? Like what makes one system analog and one system digital?

[@HalfChrome]

The video feed is analog. Lower quality. 480 vs 720.

[@HalfChrome]

Old tv signals were analog. Now we have HD or digital.

[@ocdraridrogonel]

@@HalfChrome oh so the analog just refers to the quality, that it can only get up to 480p right?

[@ocdraridrogonel]

@@HalfChrome thank you bro!

[@HalfChrome]

@ocdraridrogonel correct. The signal is also different but quality and latency change depending

[@SeeFPv-qm6ie]

what firmware is that on the fatshark hd goggles?

[@mudkipz3213]

23.23.4

[@SteveChiller]

Reading these comments is leading me to the conclusion that fatshark is confusing people as to what system they are using. They started out using hdzero (sharkbyte) tech but are now using walksnail tech. Good job fat shark. 🙄

[@georgesfrancois9313]

Excellent. I ll choose avata vbecause of this video!

[@HalfChrome]

You will love it

[@MrRaymond1021]

I think they're all pretty good? Of course I've never done FPV but I'm still thinking about it. They do look like a lot of fun, and I love to fly for fun. Thanks for sharing Jack, I thought it's was a great video idea. Thanks again. 👍👍👍

[@Acrocinematic]

Sorry but your test is not correct with HDZERO because if i see your video never buying HDZERO and must taking the 1watt vtx ...thanks your working !

[@65TASSO]

Excellent, merci

[@Droneterbang]

Good dji 👍👍👍

[@glidesfpv]

I guess we will see if the o3 unit is as good as the Avata. But the original air unit wasn’t as good as the DJI FPV drone…so based on that I’m not sure I’d bank on it.

[@HalfChrome]

Good point

[@overfly_pt]

Boa comparação entre sistemas bom trabalho 👍👌

[@HalfChrome]

Thank you

[@robertcook5983]

The only footage that looks like HD is from DJI. Both the Fatshark and HDZero systems produce blurry images. Yes, DJI pushes that to the sides, but at least the centre looks good. I have yet to see any HDZero footage that looks decent, and the same goes for Fatshark.

[@pacospete4299]

Would like to see you do a complete review on the DJI Goggles 2 , i feel you do not have an agenda with your reviews like so many others ..... you don't come across as being pretentious .

[@HalfChrome]

Thanks. I will be reviewing them. Need to fly some more

[@madman216fpv]

Good gosh, the way that Avata flys....it's seems so imbalanced...it pivots so bad on that pitch axis....not the first time I've seen this with the Avata....

[@Cloud9FPV]

I wanna pipe in. Every time I watch a video of a review. And there is all types of drones or planes in the background makes me think this guy knows what he's doing. Then the flight footage to test these are bad. Can't even fly freestyle. It just makes me think you are in it for the money. Trying to convince people what to buy. I'm a freestyle analog pilot. And when I step up to digital then I'll truly do a review of what the systems can actually do.

[@HalfChrome]

You do that.

[@alexm7056]

Walksnail has a full potential to kill DJI if they simply design a new camera using a sensor of larger format with larger aperture lens. DJI defacto cheated on FPV community by going above the design limits of community standards. So now defacto we have a new camera size standard "O3". There is nothing special about DJI O3 system, signal-nosie ratio and dynamic range are direct dependencies of pixels/sensor size and the amount of light collected by lens. In other words - larger camera equates to larger lens and larger sensor, which produces better image quality.

[@daily6633]

lol why are you lying fatshark does not look like that

[@HalfChrome]

Is this some joke? That’s exactly what it looks like.

[@daily6633]

That looks like hd video.

[@HalfChrome]

Yes. Fatshark avatar is HD.

[@TheTriggerhappyhippi]

You got any videos of what it looks like?

[@HalfChrome]

This…

HDzero and Sharkbyte are the same exact thing same chipset just different branding this video makes no sense.

[@HalfChrome]

HDZero is totally different. Maybe you didn’t watch this video

[@elxero2189]

I think you mean walk snail and fatshark

[@paulflindt]

What you talkin' 'bout, Willis?

[@steve_beatty]

@@elxero2189 walksnail...dji....fatshark....clearly all the same system with a different dress on...🙄 HDZero for the win..particularly now that the new goggles will support a high penetration 60 fps option making dji et al's last claim to superiority inconsequential and the fact HDZero plays well with others (unlike dji 🙄) a big selling point..

[@Indpendent01]

Sharkbyte was rebranded as HDzero, so yes it's the same. Idk what you are confused about in the video that makes no sense though. Maybe you misunderstand that Fatshark was part of both Sharkbyte and Avatar? From my understanding, Sharkbyte came first, then HDzero, then Avatar, but HDzero =/= Fatshark and Avatar is made by both Fatshark and Walksnail.