HE BETRAYED HIM??? - *GAME OF THRONES* Reaction - 1x7- You Win or You Die

[@gonzoron]

There are some obvious moments to watch for in GoT reactions, but one that slips under the radar that i love is Drogo's speech. Everyone starts out like "yeah, let's go! "And then it takes that turn and it's like "whoa, whoa, too far! You don't need to do that..."😂

[@MrCzerillo]

Every...single..time.

[@anhkriva5274]

It's funny that people have no problem with mass murder or child enslavement, but as soon as graping is mentioned everyone goes crazy.

[@omolisa3783]

​​@@anhkriva5274 Might be because murder (of soldiers) is, unfortunately, part of war. Graping people, on the other hand, would be seen as a war crime today. Enslavement too, and I'm pretty sure everyone has a problem with that, too.

[@andreduarte8372]

Littlefinger betrays someone? Must be Tuesday.

[@Leo_ofRedKeep]

There is a popular fan theory that the Lannisters paid the boar.

[@Watcherobot]

Yes they bribed him with truffles 😂😂

[@Doverkin]

I always wondered if it was one of the 3 eyed ravens wearing the boar to set events in motion

[@ccispahan7514]

@16:02: Sam is talking about Jeor Mormont, the Commander of the Night’s Watch. The guy who has a problem with Jon is Alliser Thorne, who trains new recruits.

[@SilentBob731]

19:35 I love the way Khal Drogo starts out sweet and noble then goes off the rails in about the darkest way possible.🥰😱🤣

[@rinmathews9337]

“I will not dishonor his last hours by shidding blood in his horse.” words to live by, Ned.

[@Leo_ofRedKeep]

Jon came freely so he can leave just a freely before he takes his vow. It is different for criminals sent to the Watch as a punishment, obviously.

[@rob4canada]

The number of times Lexi said "maybe" this will happen and a little smirk appeared on my face in this episode is countless.

[@cyrilmeynier5688]

In the show it seems ser Alliser just hates Jon Snow from day 1, for no reason. In the books there is a background to it. Aliser was a Targaryan loyalist during the rebellion, he was sent to the wall after their defeat. So he hates the former rebels, he hates the Stark, and by association he hates jon.

[@andreduarte8372]

Funny, innit? Funny, funny, funny.

[@MrCzerillo]

So, in the end, he hates him for no reason, because none of that background is revealed, therefore it is not show canon. Books and show. Two different stories.

[@anhkriva5274]

@@MrCzerillo They didn't even mention it in the "lore and stories" mini episodes?

[@mimmo4762]

That's not entirely right. Yes, at first he didn't like Jon because of that, but he didn't really hate him. He started hating Jon when Jon made fun of him in public and the whole mainhall laughted at him

[@infectshing4467]

Always love reactors getting hyped at the start of Drogo's speech just to do a 180

[@newpgaston6891]

'The Spider' is one of Varys' nicknames. (They sometimes call him the Eunuch as well).

[@phousefilms]

Wish final season characters STOPPED mentioning it(well, one of them).

[@TheKillaShow]

Lexi has too pure a heart for this show.

[@MrCzerillo]

She sure has you fooled.

[@atheobald79]

@@MrCzerillothis should be funny, please enlighten us on how she’s fooling people.

[@jjlonsdale5971]

S1 is very good at keeping all the plates spinning, but if I can quibble, they should have found a way to show us Stannis before this point. I remember thinking “Wait, there’s a middle brother? Who? What? Who?”

[@Katerine459]

A few different things: :) You probably have this figured out already, but Thorne (the guy who trains the people who come to join the Night's Watch, and who was looking all smug when Jon was named to the Stewards) is not the Lord Commander. So, contrary to what Jon thought, Thorne wasn't actually responsible for naming Jon to the Stewards. The Lord Commander, who does _not_ have any sort of grudge against Jon, requested Jon for his own personal steward. Sam's theory about why is very smart. Robert was an alcoholic, and boar hunting is very dangerous (as, interestingly, you probably also know from LOST. 😀). There was no need to poison him... all his squire had to do was give Robert more wine whenever he demanded it. The scene with Littlefinger talking to his prostitutes about screwing Ned may be my least favorite scene in the first 5 seasons of GoT, simply because it's so contrived and nonsensical, that LF would talk like that in _that_ context. Unsurprisingly, it doesn't come from the books. But, to be fair, the scene does convey quite a bit about LF's motives... he was _never_ on Ned's side, and nothing he "advised" to Ned should be taken at face value.

[@Watcherobot]

Despite the fact that Littlefinger is my favourite character, I always skip that scene

[@phousefilms]

The prostitutes scene coins what I like to call "sexposition"(ironically, I didn't realize someone already called it that before).It's not necessary at all and was explained in about three lines by Cat when she arrives at KL with Rodrik. There's a bunch back to back in "Garden of Bones"that are just uncomfortable(and obviously, there's Loras and Renly talking while nude and - - - - -SPOILERS Karl Fucking Tanner saying his backstory while several women are being raped around him, sobbing and begging for it to stop. Some of the most uncomfortable scenes of the show.

[@juliant]

I live for Varys and Little Finger. They're both brilliant minds.

[@andreduarte8372]

"I was not expecting the king to die!" Uhm............ 🤐😶😂

[@becca1189]

Not so fun facts: It takes four consecutive generations of incest for any issues (physical or mental) to appear, psychopaths can be born to anyone, & people with antisocial personality disorder are products of their environment. Joffrey's behavior best fits ASPD. "Sociopath is an unofficial term to describe a person who has antisocial personality disorder (ASPD), whereas psychopathy describes a set of personalty traits. However, ASPD and psychopathy can overlap. ASPD and psychopathy share some similar traits, including aggression and a lack of remorse. Sociopaths tend to act more impulsively and erratically compared to psychopaths. Sociopaths generally struggle to maintain a job or a family life, whereas psychopaths may be able to do so. While psychopaths generally struggle to form attachments, sociopaths may be able to do so with a like-minded individual." -- Dr. Anet Varghese, Doctor of Medicine (MBBS), India Additionally, people with either psychopathy or ASPD can benefit from therapy. However, many who have ASPD don't seek it because they don't think that it will help. Both psychopaths & sociopaths can function in society without doing harm. Most psychopaths who are criminals are not violent ones. ❤🧡💛💚💙💜

[@winterlark3986]

Baratheon brothers: King Robert, Stannis (off screen), and baby brother Renly, who we see argue with Robert during the hunt and told Ned to flee after the accident. Nice reaction.

[@lewisharris3400]

"Shitting blood in his horse??" 😂😂😂

[@RunicMike]

Being the Lord Commander's steward isn't a humiliation. Jon's already a good fighter, so now the LC wants to teach him to be a leader because he sees potential in him.

[@Katerine459]

It looked like Lexi just thought that Thorne was the LC. Since Jon believed that Thorne was responsible for the Stewards, that's understandable. So it's just a misunderstanding, her doubting Sam's theory that the LC wanted to groom Jon for command. :)

[@evatesche]

@@Katerine459 Many people make that mistake on first watch.

[@arobin6695]

i looooove that last scene in the throne room, it's perfect

[@mimmo4762]

It's fun how you guessed many things but, be your guessing right or wrong, every time the only possible reply is still "You have no idea"

[@newpgaston6891]

*"Oh, god... He's been king for 5 seconds"* 😆

[@SciFiCatGuy]

When in doubt, blame Middlefinger... even for Robert's Rebellion. One of my favorite scenes for watching reactions is Drogo making his impassioned speech about taking the Iron chair. Everyone is always like. "Yeah! YEAH! LET'S GO! YES!" Then he gets to the rapey part and everyone's, "Wait what? Uh, no... no no NO! Let's NOT do that!"

[@Leo_ofRedKeep]

Jorah spied on the Targaryens to get a pardon that would allow him to return home. He has that now, so he can do what he wants and he doesn't want Daenerys to be killed. That got him a horse. He could go home now or maybe he'll stay with the Dothraki so he can hitch a free ride on their "wooden horses" and partake in the killing, raping and enslaving that Drogo promised. His men loved the idea.

[@phousefilms]

Lol, and we're supposed to support that side? (Know it changes, but just sayin'.)

[@morpheusjones4753]

Elite reaction skills. You should have a lot more subscribers.

[@Leo_ofRedKeep]

Varys is nicknamed "the spider".

[@HuntingViolets]

"Shedding blood in his halls."

[@phousefilms]

Introducing Tywin Lannister, played by Charles Dance, one of the greatest casting choices in the series. Every scene he's in commands your attention. Book stuff!: Cersei tries to seduce Ned when he says he has to tell Robert and he asks if she said the same to Jon Arryn. She slaps him in response and he mocks her line "I shall wear this as a badge of honor." Jon's selection as a steward isn't done well in the show. Sam is initially held back, meaning that Jon and the rest of his friends will be members of the Watch and he will need to be in training(and abused by Ser Alliser and whatever trainees are sent his way). He visits Maester Aemon to convince him to raise Sam up as well, to allow him to be a steward at least. Aemons steward Chett mocks this and suggests Sam be left where he is until he learns, but Jon is able to convince Aemon by bringing up a lesson he learned from Luwin. He says that the Maester chain is made of many metals, each for a different discipline the Maesters were taught, that just because Sam is not a fighter doesn't mean he's useless and tells him how Sam is good with animals(even Ghost)and how he can read, unlike Chett. Aemon accepts and takes Sam as his personal steward and puts Jon forward as steward for Jeor, the Lord Commander, as he sees how clever Jon is. Yes, Cat was betrothed to Brandon, who was executed by the Mad King. Ned married her in his place and Jon Arryn married her sister, bringing the Tully's and the Riverlords to Roberts side as a result. Littlefinger tried to fight a duel for her hand and he got a scar in the process. Eddard writes the will as "my heir"as an attempt to change things(Roberts heir, technically, is his brother Stannis, who rules at Dragonstone, which used to be the Targaryen home island). When Robert is dying, he tells Ned to look after his children. The first people Ned thinks of are Gendry(the armorer apprentice)and the baby Barra and promises to look after them as if they were his own. Varys's nickname is "the Spider". It's explained that a Lordship is offered for Dany and Viserys's deaths as a reward. There's three main positions in the Watch. The Rangers(frontline fighters who scout beyond the Wall(like Will the Deserter and his friends who were butchered by the Others(their show title is White Walkers, but the Others is so much cooler.) The stewards tend fires and the Ravens, they hunt and farm and deal with trade. The Builders handle maintenance of the Wall and the three castles that are still manned. Sam explains to Jon that his own father did the same, having him pour wine and sit by his side to train him, at least until his younger brother(now heir)was born and Sam proved himself lacking as a fighter and a leader. Jon is serving the Lord Commander(the bearded badass), not Ser Alliser(the bullying master at arms)just in case Lexi. Lexi, lol, being unable to articulate at the end. "This show is stressing me the fuck out!" Well, don't expect that to change soon....

[@TheDweller0690]

22:20 “This show is stressing me the fuck out” lol Oh my sweet summer child.

[@chelsjones]

anyone who watched this show without reading the books first (and maybe even if you did read the books) needs like. a word document of just every characters name, nickname, title, and a photo of them lmao

[@HuntingViolets]

"We shared a womb." No, see, you're making it worse. You see how that's worse, right?

[@nicolemcgovern1519]

LOVE the mike's mic edit

[@juliant]

watching this again, I get so frustrated by the decisions that are made. But, that's what makes it good tv.

[@Pixelologist]

Taking notes is the only way I was ever able to be certain I was keeping everyone straight. lol

[@CannibalKiddo]

I love Mike’s Mic Glee retrospectives….Is that a foreshadowing for a GLEE reaction series??

[@CharmedPhoenix3]

No spoilers - Cersei has three children. Joffrey (the dickhead), Myrcella and Tommen. Joffrey you know. The other two are younger and were briefly seen in Winterfell in episode 2, asking about Bran and joking with Tyrion (they both have a good relationship with Tyrion) Littlefinger's loyalty at the moment is to himself, he knows Renly is too gentle and Stannis (Roberts so far unseen older brother) is too harsh. He also assumes he can have more input with Joffrey as King, while he definatly wouldn't be able to have much input with Stannis, who is a proven battle commander and leader. As he stated to Ned, siding with Stannis means there will be War and theres no money in wartime, which means nobody spending money in his brothels. The Lord Commander of the Nightswatch is not the man who is bullying Jon. That guy is Alliser Thorne, and he is the Master-at-arms at castle black. When Sam told Jon that The Lord Commander probably picked him to groom him for command, he wasnt doing it to bully him. The Spider is the nickname of Lord Varys the bald headed man in colourful robes.

[@MrCzerillo]

Everybody is excited about Khal Drogo conquering Westeros for Dany, until the truth of how it works comes out. Everyone is the same. There are no good guys.

[@menachemsalomon]

For what it's worth, Miss Sophie (from Sofie Reacts) once accidentally referred to Lord Peter Baelish as "Middlefinger" instead of "Littlefinger", and decided it was more appropriate. So we have our lessons from the episode: 1) In the Game of Thrones, you win or you die. 2) Don't trust Litt(Midd)lefinger. 3) The corollary of (1) and (2): Being honorable is nice and all, but it doesn't mean that you will win.

[@HuntingViolets]

I think if Robert knew Joffrey wasn't his, he would execute Cersei and Joffrey, and Jaime (if he knew about Cersei and Jaime). He could always find another excuse for it.

[@Necrothep]

16:07 Gotta remember that :)

[@Zseventyone]

14:14 - Excellent job. You’ve identified one of the plot holes. There will be more.

[@luziel3071]

Robert: *gets killed by a boar* John Locke: Rookie mistake lol

[@alancarter41]

Cersei plays The Game well while Ned Stark is hindered by honor and refuses to listen to those who try to advise him how to survive and win The Game. You can make a good case for Cersei being responsible for the attempt on Bran's life as well as Robert's accident. Jaime's discussion with her after the attempt would indicate Jaime felt she was responsible and that he thought it was a mistake. Varys made an attempt to point to the real culprit in Robert's accident, his Lannister squire who probably was trying to get him too drunk to kill the boar or may have even poisoned the wine. And the hate Cersei has shown for Tyrion makes who tried to frame him obvious. Once Ned foolishly confronted Cersei, Robert was a dead man walking, one way or the other. And Littlefinger is only concerned with advancing his position, meaning he was quite open to betraying Ned for gold, something the Lannisters have plenty of. He even said as much when Ned asked for the aid of the Gold Cloaks, but Ned was too honorable/foolish to listen.

[@thecockerel86]

stavros the manross!

[@pieceofgosa]

To the people that got mad at me for saying Catelyn taking Tyrion was a stupid thing to do, 30,000 Lannisters marching on Riverrun says I'm right & you're wrong. Good day to you. Oh & just for the record, Catelyn's act of stupidity is topped only by the three UNBELIEVABLY stupid things (talking to Cersei, ignoring Renly's advice, trusting Baelish) Ned does in this episode. Just in case anyone thought I was hating on Cat for sexist reasons. I actually like Catelyn but that doesn't change the fact that arresting Tyrion was really dumb.

[@MrCzerillo]

Nothing you have said is wrong. Anybody who thinks taking Tyrion was a good idea is not very smart. Kind of like Ned.

[@pieceofgosa]

@@MrCzerillo The most annoying thing about Cat's bad move is that we KNOW she's smarter than that. She should be aware that in Westerosi politics if you decide to strike first then you have to go for the kill & leave none standing.

[@MichaelPower212]

Go back to Robert's dictation to Ned when he said, "Rule in my stead until Joffery comes of age." Compare that statement to what Ned actually wrote. The Spider is Lord Varys, the Master of Whisperers. In today's terms that would be the head of a spy network like the CIA, or MI6, or Russia's FSB. Lord Stannis of Dragonstone, Robert's younger brother, is next in line of succession to the throne since Robert had no legitimate children. Lord Renly of Storm's End is the youngest brother of Robert. As to you attempting to understand Petyr Baelish's (Littlefinger) motives. Go back to the scene in his brothel when he described he described that he wasn't going to play by their rules. When asked by Ros what it was he wanted he said, "Oh, everything, everything there is." Being drunk while hunting boar with a spear can be just as effective as poison. Given your reaction upon the discovery of Littlefinger's betrayal of Ned, then it is apparent that you are not cut out for this show because such actions will appear trivial to what's to come. Here's a link to a HBO web page which shows the characters introduced by each season. Take a screenshot of it and print it out. www.hbo.com/game-of-thrones

[@erich5819]

"THis show is stressing me the f@!k out". 😟 Yep, it does that. Also, love the Colorado shirt. 😀

[@CharmedPhoenix3]

17:00 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

[@Leo_ofRedKeep]

This is when the show jumped the Stark.

[@omega-ed5eo]

I hope your socks stay wet…

[@Watcherobot]

Glad to see you not flinch when Tywin was skinning the deer everyone else who reacts to that scene flinches I don't understand why there's much worse in the show and it's that's what people don't like the most

[@jjlonsdale5971]

Littlefinger straight up told Ned his plan and Ned still walked into that hall thinking people in politics at that level would play by the rules. By Littlefinger’s standards he really was playing at kindergarten level, but Ned is just too honorable.

[@Talisguy]

No, he thought he'd bribed the City Watch to take his side, and he went into the throne room fully prepared to drag Joffrey off the throne and into the dungeons. It's a very brief exchange, but Littlefinger says something like "the arrangements are made, the Watch is yours" before Ned enters the throne room, heavily implying that Ned told Littlefinger to bribe the Watch to side with him (which is explicitly what happened in the books.) What he didn't count on was that Littlefinger would betray him. Yes, he should have. But he's not so stupid that he thought Cersei would respect the rule of law and just give up.

[@MrCzerillo]

He kind of is that stupid.

[@williambyrd2895]

Ned Stark was warned.

[@HuntingViolets]

Honestly, I think Robert is just as much responsible for how Joffrey is as Cersei. Myrcella and Tommen are fine because they're more or less ignored by their toxic parents.

[@MrCzerillo]

I think only half true. Cersei is as much responsible for the other two as she would be for Joffrey. People just unobjectively hate her so much that they won't believe it.

[@HuntingViolets]

@@MrCzerillo That's valid.

[@Zseventyone]

You don’t need to black out deer-skinning, editor.

[@allocat586]

imho you are trying harder than most to remember all the names and places and things in this show. Nobody remembers everything their first time. If you don't remember a name, it is on the show, not on you.

[@glennjones8287]

kzbin.info/www/bejne/l3zEm4pshplofck "I don't even like horses in real life" What?! You don't like horses? What do you have against them?

[@GodlessScummer]

When you've finished season 1 please react to season 1 Histories & Lore.

[@Zseventyone]

So is that a wig or…? Vexed here. 🤔

[@FloridaMugwump]

No, he didnt betray Ned. He gave Ned good advice, Ned refused. By pulling the knife on Ned, Little Finger saved Ned from getting killed in the fight.

[@Leo_ofRedKeep]

And stopped a general civil war from starting. Joffrey might be an unpleasant kid but war is worse for most of the population.

[@mimmo4762]

If you really think so, you didn't watch attentively.

[@Talisguy]

He told Ned he'd paid off the city guard when in reality he'd paid them to _turn_ on house Stark. That's a betrayal. He definitely betrayed Ned.

[@hardybryan]

@@Leo_ofRedKeep How did he stop a general civil war? There is literally a civil war about to start. It's even called the war of the 5 kings because the title is so disputed.

[@hardybryan]

Telling Ned he'll have the gold cloaks back him when the time comes and instead having them attack Ned's men is definitely betrayal. Even if Ned absolutely should have seen it coming.