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Audit the Audit

Audit the Audit

8 күн бұрын

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Original video: • FARMINGTON NM WITH @pr...
Trespassing arrest video: • FARMINTON NM TYRANT J....
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Irizarry v. Yehia- bit.ly/3vSNSGS
ACLU of Illinois v. Alvarez- bit.ly/3MANUvB
Gericke v. Begin- bit.ly/2SiII5U
Branzburg v. Hayes- bit.ly/3lYzh6R
Farmington Code of Ord. § 18-7-2- bit.ly/3TVh6RP
N.M. Stat. § 30-22-1- bit.ly/44syv6z
United States v. Romero- bit.ly/3bkCjAW
State v. Diaz- bit.ly/3xqnAPK
City of Roswell v. Smith- bit.ly/4aDZCiC

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@AuditTheAudit
@AuditTheAudit 7 күн бұрын
If you could take the time to watch this video to the end I would sincerely appreciate it. It's the best way to help keep this channel going! Thank you and have a great day!
@anthonytrevon865
@anthonytrevon865 7 күн бұрын
You got it. Love your channel
@allengainzmma
@allengainzmma 7 күн бұрын
Aye aye captain!💪
@jeffalley4417
@jeffalley4417 7 күн бұрын
This was a L on you. There's no reasonable reason for them to leave where they were
@allengainzmma
@allengainzmma 7 күн бұрын
@@jeffalley4417 You mean an L on the law. Just because this channel says what the law is doesn’t mean he supports it.
@Tortilla.Reform
@Tortilla.Reform 7 күн бұрын
I appreciate the research you did for this video! Funny enough, the only “back the blue” politicians and voters are right wing conservative types, and the vast majority of politicians working towards accountability and policy changes for police are on the left wing. NYC abolished qualified immunity and opened up all past complaint records to the public, while Florida Sheriff Grady Judd *still* refuses to get any bodycams for his department, but loves to have his viral press conferences withbhis official state narrative, tainting the potential jury pool. Trump told a room full of police to abuse people already in cuffs, on video
@NWAWskeptic
@NWAWskeptic 7 күн бұрын
Good cops call out bad cops. Good auditors call out bad auditors.
@davidkunkle3262
@davidkunkle3262 7 күн бұрын
Yep so call out the bad cops lying about them being in danger. We can clearly see there were annoyed by the video. Yep we got the usual boot licker is acting like that's not it. That man was completely calm in his car😂
@artzival7146
@artzival7146 7 күн бұрын
There are no good cops
@j0hnnykn0xv1lle
@j0hnnykn0xv1lle 7 күн бұрын
ATA routinely gets an F.
@robo2901
@robo2901 7 күн бұрын
The guy had been making threats with his vehicle, a knife, possibly a gun. It's not bootlicking to recognize there are reasonable circumstances where cops can ask you for space and that you're interfering if you don't comply.​@@davidkunkle3262
@NWAWskeptic
@NWAWskeptic 7 күн бұрын
@@davidkunkle3262 as someone who’s worked with people in crisis, the calm people are often the most unpredictable. These auditors were introducing tension and escalation where it can do the most harm. I am 100% absolutely against the cops and their BS. But come on, there is such thing as just basic decency.
@krisstanton5736
@krisstanton5736 6 күн бұрын
There was no need to say "You guys are dismissed" when they weren't rude at all. Just because you call yourself an auditor doesn't mean you're not a scum bag
@mattp6022
@mattp6022 6 күн бұрын
Did you watch the whole video!? The fact that they went and got a warrant to retaliate against him for videoing the incident.
@krisstanton5736
@krisstanton5736 6 күн бұрын
@@mattp6022 The end has nothing to do with the disrespect at the beginning. If you're rude to someone then expect it in return. He could have wished them a good day instead of saying rude things
@mattp6022
@mattp6022 6 күн бұрын
@@krisstanton5736 maybe, but remember what every sheriff and police chief say about their employees, "We hold them to a higher standard." That includes professionalism and not sinking to the level of others.
@recce8619
@recce8619 6 күн бұрын
@@mattp6022 Except a judge signed off on it. The judge felt that a legal order had been given, and ignored. This didn't feel like a retaliation. It does feel like enforcing the law, and taking the time to make sure they weren't overstepping the mark.
@ionwolfhelm
@ionwolfhelm 5 күн бұрын
@@mattp6022 Awful take. They potentially put the safety of everybody at the scene at risk, why shouldn't they face charges? You speculating the police did it to retaliate for videoing the incident is not only totally unfounded, it is evident the female officer was happy for them to film, but from a safer distance. If anyone didn't watch the whole video, its you.
@notinmyUSMC
@notinmyUSMC 6 күн бұрын
Lesson learned: If you want to push the envelope, know where all the corners are located.
@lepapasmurf
@lepapasmurf 6 күн бұрын
stealing that
@Manchupacabra
@Manchupacabra 6 күн бұрын
What corners?
@handsomesquidward2665
@handsomesquidward2665 6 күн бұрын
I don't get it.
@kipsmithers8816
@kipsmithers8816 6 күн бұрын
Very nicely stated. World class comment. Quite the metaphor I might add. Bravo🏆👍
@LucenProject
@LucenProject 6 күн бұрын
all 4corners
@maolcogi
@maolcogi 7 күн бұрын
The instant he just sat there going "SHHHHHHHHH" "SHHHHHHHHH" ... what a tool.
@NG-cf7zh
@NG-cf7zh 6 күн бұрын
I liked that, cops do condescending stuff all day, it’s entertaining/cathartic to see the tables turned. EDIT: you’re all free to whine about it in the comments 😁
@Kmmlc
@Kmmlc 6 күн бұрын
@@NG-cf7zh Alright, lets say he leaves in his truck, swings back around and mows down the auditors and the officers (but aiming for the auditors) because they didn't back up? Let's say he thought that was for him? The auditors were clearly in the wrong in this case and make all other auditors look bad.
@Sffker
@Sffker 6 күн бұрын
⁠@@NG-cf7zhnah. guy looked like a grade A douchebag doing that. Literally was no need for him to act like a child, yet, he acted like a child.
@YourComputer
@YourComputer 6 күн бұрын
@@NG-cf7zh No they don't, and no it's not.
@Mr.NotSoNice415
@Mr.NotSoNice415 6 күн бұрын
@@NG-cf7zhthat’s just plain disrespectful inhumane and disgusting. The man has mental issues and the cops looking out for them because they don’t know the situation he has a knife and if the cops said “hey I told you to step back” and they get stabbed then what?
@9adam4
@9adam4 7 күн бұрын
This is the first time I have seen cops get an A and auditors get an F. It's a good example to pay attention to.
@IlllIIIIllIIlIIlIlIlllI
@IlllIIIIllIIlIIlIlIlllI 7 күн бұрын
Was gonna say the same
@sunandsage
@sunandsage 7 күн бұрын
It actually happens quite frequently.
@9adam4
@9adam4 7 күн бұрын
@@sunandsage I clearly need to watch more videos.
@senorbeast09
@senorbeast09 7 күн бұрын
​@@sunandsage "Frequently" lmao, you will not find even 5% of Audit the Audit's 300 videos having this outcome
@Trollingtonsrus
@Trollingtonsrus 7 күн бұрын
Not the first instance on this channel.
@sharonbetancourth4288
@sharonbetancourth4288 7 күн бұрын
They were so focused on touting their rights that the auditors forgot to be decent human beings. The poor guy was begging them to leave him alone on what was clearly an already deeply distressing situation.
@ItIsNotMeReally
@ItIsNotMeReally 7 күн бұрын
Right? It like they don't care about anyone else but themselves and their 'freedom'
@peepo2222
@peepo2222 7 күн бұрын
@@ItIsNotMeReallyI disagree. I believe they care about everyone and their freedoms. It’s hard for some to comprehend that I guess
@Allpie_isgoodpie
@Allpie_isgoodpie 7 күн бұрын
Exactly. The distress in that poor man's voice and they're just there like, "Alright were getting some content here!!!" With _zero_ regard for that man in that moment. But they claim they were there to _protect him._ What bollocks! They should get prison time imo.
@Allpie_isgoodpie
@Allpie_isgoodpie 7 күн бұрын
​@@peepo2222Then why didn't they respect him? Why did they insist on making the situation worse for a clearly distressed citizen?
@Batmann_
@Batmann_ 7 күн бұрын
@@peepo2222 You're utterly delusional if you think that all auditors are just out there for our freedom. It's interesting that you're here insulting someone else while being the DF. Like Sharon said, this auditor forgot to be a decent person. I think that's something that's becoming a bit more common. It's hypocritical to act like child just because you can get away with it...practically the same thing they are supposed to be standing against. But, I guess this more complex understanding is too hard for you.
@Gods-bad-boy
@Gods-bad-boy 3 күн бұрын
This is why Sean from Long Island does so good. He maintains a professional demeanor, hes polite, and educated on the laws.
@michaelanthonyortegaherrer348
@michaelanthonyortegaherrer348 2 күн бұрын
Last I heard I was in jail I dont know if he's out or what's going on
@Gods-bad-boy
@Gods-bad-boy 2 күн бұрын
@@michaelanthonyortegaherrer348 Did you mean to write this comment here? I find that sometimes comments I write end up on whole other video comments.
@nanook6620
@nanook6620 16 сағат бұрын
Call him Billy because that mans the GOAT.
@christopherhammond5142
@christopherhammond5142 13 сағат бұрын
Yeah, he does a great job and it's rare to see him get upset, he's taken all of the chill pills.
@janwill6227
@janwill6227 3 сағат бұрын
I disagree. He oversteps his boundary for monetary gain. He inserts himself sometimes to the point of harassment. He’s causing more laws to be made to prevent this causing the tax payers more money at a time where the economy can’t support much more. But then, he’s not the only frauditor causing this. This is just my opinion.
@azdgariarada
@azdgariarada 6 күн бұрын
Dude's 2nd time getting an F from AtA. Pretty clear pattern of shit behavior, with no indication of improvement.
@grawss
@grawss 3 күн бұрын
I saw another from him as well with him at a public defender's office showing off his ignorance of the law. IMO this was far worse. If he were a police officer, he'd have to change all his actions and learn how to deescalate situations. He was interfering with someone's life despite having no reasonable articulable suspicion of a crime. Using his power at the expense of others is exactly what he claims to be against.
@jimtalbott9535
@jimtalbott9535 3 күн бұрын
There are a number of ignorant and downright criminal auditors out there. Look up the case of Hoyt Webb out of Spokane, WA.
@nurburgringbiker
@nurburgringbiker 7 күн бұрын
"You are dismissed". He just had to get that last one in there didn't he.
@briangereau788
@briangereau788 6 күн бұрын
Gotta follow the script
@thetruth7118
@thetruth7118 6 күн бұрын
sometimes you have to test the law to make sure they aren't tyrants.
@Sffker
@Sffker 6 күн бұрын
@@thetruth7118that’s not testing anything that’s just you acting like a imbecile for no reason. they didn’t push the auditors or anything 😂
@gregnold9190
@gregnold9190 5 күн бұрын
Yep. They came to cause a scene but the officers weren't interested. The 'you are dismissed' comment revealed they were nothing but sore-loser dickheads.
@VGbeck22
@VGbeck22 4 күн бұрын
@@thetruth7118that’s hilarious considering the dude was charged.
@TRC19999
@TRC19999 7 күн бұрын
These auditors give auditors a bad name. No sympathy for me with this one.
@brettmallon3254
@brettmallon3254 7 күн бұрын
Some of them are really horrible and instigators.
@jeffthornton6998
@jeffthornton6998 7 күн бұрын
@@brettmallon3254It seems that the percentage of them are. The days of real auditors like the Battousi are over.
@markdove5930
@markdove5930 7 күн бұрын
They didn't know the situation. Should have been more attentive. But how would you know?
@Don-mi6zl
@Don-mi6zl 7 күн бұрын
They did nothing wrong.
@al69420
@al69420 7 күн бұрын
@@Don-mi6zlexactly
@brenda0823_
@brenda0823_ 6 күн бұрын
They absolutely deserved to be arrested! This isn't the first time Mr Chi has been in trouble for not knowing what the hell he is doing! Both of them need to study what is legal and acceptable being an auditor. They have no clue!!
@unknownuser1070
@unknownuser1070 6 күн бұрын
“You are dismissed” - small man energy
@thehardistdifficulty1050
@thehardistdifficulty1050 4 күн бұрын
Naw more like you showing the internet your a small D energy 😂🎉😂🎉🎉
@shawnice105
@shawnice105 4 күн бұрын
If matching energy means I gotta stoop to their level, so be it..! If you’re being a small man I’m gonna speak your language..
@shawnice105
@shawnice105 4 күн бұрын
Small man energy 😂😂😂 that’s so stupid.. What is big man energy..?
@shawnice105
@shawnice105 4 күн бұрын
As I watched more of the video I now understand what you mean by small man. Yeah, man I get it. Definitely small man energy. Obviously I’m not up to date on all the slang terms. My bad. I apologize for jumping the gun and acting like a SM😂😂😂
@yurmom-io9pc
@yurmom-io9pc 3 күн бұрын
@@shawnice105 so yur are a small man? lol
@conradb7200
@conradb7200 7 күн бұрын
It’s people like this who make it bad for everyone who film the police!!
@dtcdtc8328
@dtcdtc8328 7 күн бұрын
I'm not going to be surprised WHEN we find out those who are doing damage to auditing are actually undercover Law enforcement or paid by them. Some it seems so obvious. What better way to shut things down then to become an (fake) auditor and be belligerent about it.
@peepo2222
@peepo2222 7 күн бұрын
Elaborate
@Figgy20000
@Figgy20000 7 күн бұрын
@@peepo2222 They were convicted for obstruction and are currently in jail serving a 66 day sentence. Is that enough or do you want more.
@RageMojo
@RageMojo 7 күн бұрын
STFU, this cop had no reason to fear somoene with an obvious camera obviously filming and doing nothing else. He was 10 feet away, that is complaince. Bootlicker.
@Brock_3256
@Brock_3256 7 күн бұрын
@@Figgy20000 Out of jail in April. Did you watch the video? Charges were bullsh*t. FTP!!!
@killernil99
@killernil99 7 күн бұрын
I appreciate the fact you call out bad auditors and police alike. I felt like these cops were pretty cool.
@j.p.f.4007
@j.p.f.4007 6 күн бұрын
it was cool to charge the auditors after the fact with no real warning? "Step back" is a request. "Step back or after this stop is over Im gonna get a judge to arrest you" would make my ears perk up a bit.
@blacckkk
@blacckkk 5 күн бұрын
​@@j.p.f.4007ignorance of the law is no excuse. Glad they got arrested.
@acarroll6842
@acarroll6842 5 күн бұрын
What troubles me is that she's absolutely right in this situation and expressed all her concerns calmly and reasonably to the auditors, in a manner highly fitting for law enforcement. However, the sad reality is that her words sounded identical to those of the disingenuous officers who use the same language and tone to bully and intimidate auditors. Consequently, these two auditors thought she was just another tyrant officer trying to deny them their First Amendment right to film. Communication between civilians and the police has broken down, and the trust has been lost and needs to be rebuilt. Far too many tyrant cops have gotten away with power tripping.
@acarroll6842
@acarroll6842 5 күн бұрын
In fact, all of the officers behaved in a highly appropriate manner, acting on information that was not available to the auditors. They tried their best to politely dissuade the auditors from their journalistic activity while respecting the privacy of the individual they had come to detain, whom they knew was already a potential threat. The officers made every effort to put distance between the auditors and the suspect, who was clearly growing visibly agitated by their presence, while also trying not to violate the auditors' civil rights. Balancing these considerations is extremely challenging, particularly because any words you, as a police officer, say to an auditor will be immediately met with intense suspicion, scrutiny, and reluctance to comply with authority.
@gregnold9190
@gregnold9190 5 күн бұрын
Yep, the cops were worthy of their 'A' grade.
@takyc
@takyc 7 күн бұрын
When the police officers decided to leave and walking towards their car, those auditors threw out "You are dismissed". That's such a childish act.
@supertracker9823
@supertracker9823 3 күн бұрын
The largest issue with "First Amendment Auditors" is the rude and entitled behavior of the vast majority of those I've seen. Shushing an officer attempting to conduct an investigation or telling the officers they are dismissed is just distasteful. it's a good thing to have individuals testing the temperament of our peace officers, but I see no reason they can't communicate to them in a respectful manner. The constitution was made for all of us, not just these guys.
@TomJacobW
@TomJacobW Күн бұрын
These fools don’t want to audit anything; these clowns want to push the envelope to actively cause controversy. This is all about them cosplaying “big investigative journalist” to feel like they actually amount to something. They are oozing small-man energy.
@s1lenceblade
@s1lenceblade 7 күн бұрын
This is the same department that responded to a Domestic Violence call by going to the wrong house, then summarily executed the homeowner, Robert Dotson, because he answered the door with a firearm in his hand after 10PM. None of those officers faced any form of discipline, and the DA refused to charge any officer involved.
@nodekapunk
@nodekapunk 7 күн бұрын
Great! It shows they’re taking real strides to improve their behavior! Thanks for pointing out that they are bettering their department
@josesalgado2796
@josesalgado2796 7 күн бұрын
Yep, same police force. Looks like the night shift police's differently. How can my pizza be delivered to the correct address but the cops can't show up to the right house?
@Nakasasama
@Nakasasama 7 күн бұрын
Because pizza delivery drivers have higher IQs than cops. ​@@josesalgado2796
@bBlaF
@bBlaF 7 күн бұрын
​@@josesalgado2796 Delivery guys are personally liable for their mistakes.
@jw8687
@jw8687 7 күн бұрын
​@@envya2774 No one going armed to a random address armed should think nothing bad will come from inside.....
@bread5617
@bread5617 7 күн бұрын
a guy called deluzio with mental issues. lmao the coincidence
@ccompson2
@ccompson2 7 күн бұрын
That's because this damn simulation is starting to fall apart
@Paddyjay12
@Paddyjay12 7 күн бұрын
Could be gov. Plants intended to make auditors look bad.. Could also just be bad auditors, just wanted to throw it out there.
@paidagringa1107
@paidagringa1107 7 күн бұрын
I thought it from the start 😂😂😂😂
@martystrasinger3801
@martystrasinger3801 7 күн бұрын
And Otto Octavius ends up with 8 appendages!
@skepticusmaximus184
@skepticusmaximus184 7 күн бұрын
The irony. 😂
@brandonhebert5485
@brandonhebert5485 4 күн бұрын
Louisiana just passed a law that if you want to film police, you must stay at least 25 feet away at all times or you are subject to arrest yourself.
@Koldatt
@Koldatt 3 күн бұрын
This is good for everyone, now auditors can remain 30 feet away and not be harassed.
@user-ge3hj3yn9r
@user-ge3hj3yn9r 2 күн бұрын
Arizona tried to do that. The law was challenged and no one from the state would go to court to justify the new law. Believe it happened about this time in 2022.
@codyedits304
@codyedits304 8 сағат бұрын
​@Koldatt it's a bad law. Maybe 10 feet. But what if the cop walks up to you is it another 25 feet? Can you film traffic stops from inside your car. What if they are planting evidence and a camera could have saved them.
@lonefighterpilot
@lonefighterpilot 6 күн бұрын
When the auditors said “so that we don’t hear or see what you’re doing” I already knew their thought process
@gogearhead56
@gogearhead56 7 күн бұрын
What impresses me most is the cops dealing with mental issues without resorting to violence. It is rare to see the understanding they displayed as they defused a potentially more difficult and dangerous situation.
@katdoral5277
@katdoral5277 6 күн бұрын
I'm not sure that I'd call that rare. Consider this: We've all seen the video's where things went wrong, but we rarely see the points in between. Like imagine how much footage of basically just walking around most auditors just delete. It would be interesting to get some hard metrics on how much footage actually shows something wrong, and how much is completely uneventful, and then we could really make an assertion of what is or is not rare.
@crimson182
@crimson182 6 күн бұрын
Yeah it is not that uncommon but it usually doesn't make interesting content so you never see it. Remember the media gets rewarded for entertaining and not providing an accurate depiction .
@gogearhead56
@gogearhead56 6 күн бұрын
@@katdoral5277 I agree with you and @crimson182 below, to a point. I spend much more time watching auditors who will present both good and bad encounters. I do know I see all to much of cops who never listen at all, and whose first response to mental illness or physical disability is violence.
@user-nq7rz4do3g
@user-nq7rz4do3g 4 күн бұрын
It's highly likely that the auditors did not violate any law since owning and possessing a fire arm is not illegal. In most states public display of a fire arm is not illegal.
@danlindey7368
@danlindey7368 7 күн бұрын
These auditors are clueless. They show a clear misunderstanding of the law and lack simple human compassion. The dude needed mental help and the auditors just aggravated the situation. I'm glad to see your channel shows the other side of auditing other than the police breaking the law. The auditors give first amendment auditing a bad name.
@RUBYWERT
@RUBYWERT 7 күн бұрын
I agree. These auditors are terrible.
@godaistudios
@godaistudios 7 күн бұрын
Hindsight is 20/20. What did the auditor's know at the time?
@caliconfessions1075
@caliconfessions1075 7 күн бұрын
So many of you are wrong, the auditors have no obligation to give them space, the cops should have arrested the unstable man making threats.
@darkred1686
@darkred1686 7 күн бұрын
@@caliconfessions1075 Just because you can do something doesn't always mean you should. What's the saying; discretion is the better part of valor? Yeah, I guess it's their right, but it seems in poor taste to insert yourself into someone else's police interaction.
@RUBYWERT
@RUBYWERT 7 күн бұрын
@@godaistudios I agree these are not quality auditors. People have to use their brains sometimes.
@christopher3922
@christopher3922 7 күн бұрын
The guy actually sent in his video assuming audit the audit would agree with his nonsense 😂.
@Don-mi6zl
@Don-mi6zl 7 күн бұрын
Falling viewership has caused audit the audit to try and appeal to the bootlicker crowd.
@FishyJ
@FishyJ 7 күн бұрын
@@Don-mi6zlyou can both respect police and still be an auditor, please keep in mind you only see the bad interactions on the internet and rarely see the good ones
@anthonycampbell8797
@anthonycampbell8797 7 күн бұрын
The woman officer has an ego problem,that’s all behind the arrest
@FishyJ
@FishyJ 7 күн бұрын
@@anthonycampbell8797 yeah I think she was getting frustrated with them but she had a legitimate and legal reason to tell them to leave.
@rayhume1971
@rayhume1971 7 күн бұрын
ANY form of fundamentalism is foolish and dangerous. Grow up.
@eddierichardson5740
@eddierichardson5740 4 күн бұрын
Auditors like this is why so many cops have a negative view of all Auditors....the key is to know the law and they seem to only have a limited understanding.....would be nice if there could be classes with legal experts to teach auditors how to go about this in a more constructive way
@davidlakes5087
@davidlakes5087 6 күн бұрын
So any time one person dislikes what another is doing, that gives cops the power to order that second person to stop? Absurd. They need to arrest the guy making the threats instead of passing culpability onto a law-abiding third party.
@cmano48
@cmano48 7 күн бұрын
Proud of the channel for showing what happens when an audit isn’t done properly
@kbhhawks
@kbhhawks 7 күн бұрын
Nothing about cops letting a mentally distributed individual making threats with weapons leave on his own? But yeah the auditors were the unprofessional ones. Curious, are you and ATA the determination maker on what makes a proper audit? Weird because i was doing some looking on auditing 'rules of professionalism' and not only did i not find reference to the two of you about anything defining how to conduct an audit 'properly.'
@cmano48
@cmano48 7 күн бұрын
@@kbhhawks exactly see you got it
@briangereau788
@briangereau788 6 күн бұрын
​@@kbhhawksyes, the auditors were most certainly the unprofessional ones.
@kbhhawks
@kbhhawks 6 күн бұрын
@@briangereau788 oh yeah where is the code of conduct requiring a certain behavior toward cops giving orders to law abiding citizens? Oh yeah it doesn't exist but in your head. Cops do not deserve respect, unless they show it first. Good to know you hate our constitutional rights and support the police state.
@kbhhawks
@kbhhawks 6 күн бұрын
@@briangereau788 also wondering do you unhinge your jaw too when the cops show up?
@brotherblimp2015
@brotherblimp2015 7 күн бұрын
Thank you to ATA for not only showing the overreach of the police, but the overreach of some of the auditors. I have learned a lot about my civil and constitutional rights by watching this channel, among others. Well done on the police for maintaining that professionalism that we should expect from our public servants. As for the "auditors", my conclusion is that they were there to try to pick a fight with the officers and the police didn't take the bait. This is a wonderful example to those who potentially wish to assert/audit our constitutional rights as to how NOT to behave.
@concernedcitizen1874
@concernedcitizen1874 7 күн бұрын
Bait?! Simply standing on the sidewalk filming is now bait? Asking someone to move to the other side of the street is not a lawful order. Had the "professional" police ignored the press, they wouldn't have used NM's warped interpretation of "interfering" as a weapon. The interaction on the street was good. No laws broken, no rights violated. It's the weaponization of the law that is creating a chilling effect and violating rights.
@lukeherdaii9528
@lukeherdaii9528 7 күн бұрын
Agreed
@lukeherdaii9528
@lukeherdaii9528 7 күн бұрын
@@concernedcitizen1874I also agree mostly with this statement.
@jlambe19
@jlambe19 7 күн бұрын
@@concernedcitizen1874 with that said, I'm not sure I entirely agree with your statement. However, the fault of this "weaponization" lies with SCOTUS and their Frazier vs Krupp ruling which allows the police to be dishonest. The result of this is the lack of trust in the police and virtually anything they say.
@wotan_nightshade
@wotan_nightshade 7 күн бұрын
Time place and manner restrictions that are reasonable​@@concernedcitizen1874
@DuraMATT22
@DuraMATT22 6 күн бұрын
This is a clear example of just because you can do something doesn’t mean you should.
@fartpooboxohyeah8611
@fartpooboxohyeah8611 5 күн бұрын
But apparently he couldn't do it.
@joshuagary2745
@joshuagary2745 6 күн бұрын
11/5/2022 i got a traffic warning for failure to signal 100 ft prior. 11/8/2022 i submit FOIA request and acquire officer complaint form. 11/27/22 i submit 2nd foia request and submit completed officer complaint form. I was arrested for a warrant for interfering with the traffic stop that occurred on 11/5/22. I was told the warrant was generated on 11/22/22. 14 days after the 1st FOIA request was submitted.
@auzzy3526
@auzzy3526 7 күн бұрын
This channel sets the standard for bodycam channels.
@kbhhawks
@kbhhawks 7 күн бұрын
This channel sets the standard for police being a police apologist. Those cops could have easily escalated that without you knowing. That is why citizens with cameras matter. They need a bigger area for safety, put up some tape. Don't like or field safe with cameras then ALL cops need to do better. The only people cops care about in these situations are themselves and charges were pressed because their feelings were hurt and some magistrate decided to coddle the cops.
@Moabkilr45
@Moabkilr45 7 күн бұрын
This isn't a body cam channel though that's code blue cam and Midwest safety
@dicksherman284
@dicksherman284 7 күн бұрын
ATA is biased half the time completely wrong
@Crimson_Tango
@Crimson_Tango 6 күн бұрын
​@@LucasJackson_37Who said anything about this being the first or first 50 channels of this type? Literally no one.
@LucasJackson_37
@LucasJackson_37 6 күн бұрын
@@Crimson_Tango your right .. my appoliogies, I completely misread the comment.
@andrewstoll4548
@andrewstoll4548 7 күн бұрын
Ummmm.... "You're dismissed." Well their interaction with the guy in the truck was done and they were going to continue on with their day. So wow what complete A-Holes.
@KP_Nation
@KP_Nation 7 күн бұрын
I thought the same thing. It's like starting a slow clap at the wrong time 😂
@darkred1686
@darkred1686 7 күн бұрын
I caught some second-hand embarrassment from that. Like they're on their way out and they actually seemed pretty chill and I didn't hear any directives as they were leaving. That one cop even had a bit of a conversation about rights and seemed to be a bit more knowledgeable than most cops you see in an audit.
@NCWCENT
@NCWCENT 7 күн бұрын
Goofy activities 😂
@briangereau788
@briangereau788 6 күн бұрын
They're just following their script
@bradharris1459
@bradharris1459 6 күн бұрын
It was very, very evident he was joking with the cops...they even laughed before saying it. Its fucking wild that you criticize an obvious joke...they even continued the joke with them after that statement.
@user-zs4jn4yx3w
@user-zs4jn4yx3w 7 күн бұрын
To all audtors: Be silent and let the camera do the eyes and ears
@Chewy_GarageBandDad
@Chewy_GarageBandDad 2 күн бұрын
NAh Although I agree with the police in this scenario, and its a first, due to a legit safety concern, auditors due us a big solid by provoking the potentially loose canon cop through using protected speech. It is the only thing currently working right no that expose the bad cops.
@thetruth7118
@thetruth7118 6 күн бұрын
remember if there is a lunatic saying he is going to kill people don't film him or the cops will throw you in jail and let him go home.
@StephanieDineley
@StephanieDineley 7 күн бұрын
"It's called freedom of speech"... It's also called freedom to be tone deaf and inconsiderant.
@holarndius
@holarndius 7 күн бұрын
I agree these guys are dicks, but being rude isn't a crime thankfully.
@skepticusmaximus184
@skepticusmaximus184 7 күн бұрын
*inconsiderate
@StephanieDineley
@StephanieDineley 7 күн бұрын
@@skepticusmaximus184 yes...that🤣
@skepticusmaximus184
@skepticusmaximus184 7 күн бұрын
@StephanieDineley Because 'inconsiderant' is what you do when catching a bus without wearing any deodorant. 😉
@StephanieDineley
@StephanieDineley 7 күн бұрын
@@skepticusmaximus184 🤣🤣🤣...I knew something was off when I re-read my comment but I couldn't put my finger on it🤣. I teach math for a reason...basic elementary spelling and grammar, nope...useless math/ geometry/ calculus/trig, I got you👍😅.
@Buddha23Fett
@Buddha23Fett 7 күн бұрын
These “auditors” were absolute idiots. Zero sympathy.
@CCountZero
@CCountZero 7 күн бұрын
It illustrates the problem with police being allowed to lie about what they can and cannot lawfully order. It's legal to do what these auditors did, unless some rare and very specific circumstances apply. But how do they know that this is such a case? Because the officers say so. But the officers are allowed to lie. So how can they trust that the officers aren't lying about the situation? It's not possible to follow the law and not get taken advantage of by corrupt officers, at the same time. This is solely because they're allowed to lie.
@Buddha23Fett
@Buddha23Fett 7 күн бұрын
@@CCountZerowhat?
@lifealert2716
@lifealert2716 7 күн бұрын
@@CCountZeroif they had a tad bit of respect they wouldn’t have stood right behind them in the first place. Their fishing for drama
@ExtremeAudits
@ExtremeAudits 7 күн бұрын
You aren't going to like the way some people practice their freedom.
@Buddha23Fett
@Buddha23Fett 7 күн бұрын
@@ExtremeAudits freedom? Go film from the other side of the street and shut up.
@ivanzenteno2771
@ivanzenteno2771 7 күн бұрын
The guy in the truck was clearly dealing with mental or drug issues, but the auditors were so focused in proving a point they completely ignored the fact the guy could've gone off at any second
@gregnemcek3998
@gregnemcek3998 7 күн бұрын
So everyone must walk on eggshells so as not to upset the dangerous nut job? Why wasn't the dangerous nut job arrested?
@Jamesaepp
@Jamesaepp 6 күн бұрын
"Clearly" how? Because AtA filled in that information for you? What is a "clear" mental or drug issue to you? Are all mental issues visible? The same for drug misuse?
@ivanzenteno2771
@ivanzenteno2771 6 күн бұрын
@@Jamesaepp let me turn it around on you... Are NO mental issues visible? Are there NO visual cues for substance abuse?
@Jamesaepp
@Jamesaepp 6 күн бұрын
@@ivanzenteno2771 Let me turn it around on you, how can you distinguish between a mental health issue and a person under the influence when standing 10 ft away from the scene and with otherwise 0 contextual information?
@ivanzenteno2771
@ivanzenteno2771 6 күн бұрын
@@Jamesaepp I don't have to distinguish. I just have to identify either one as being substantially possible. Dude was yelling at them and was clearly in distress. The fact that the cops are talking him down from something. Logic is hard
@codyedits304
@codyedits304 8 сағат бұрын
So any cop can say film from further away and not tell us its because the suspect is armed and we have to move across the street?? Sounds like this one needs some case law.
@Kattakam
@Kattakam 6 күн бұрын
100% agree with you. They put the safety of the detained, officials carrying out their duties and themselves at risk of harm for their own gain. Pathetic way of conducting a peaceful and respectful 1st amendment audit.
@zt5547
@zt5547 6 күн бұрын
Yep, after all those cameras shoot bullets so everybody there was at danger
@hdlc4635
@hdlc4635 7 күн бұрын
When auditors first started recording police, it was for purposes of public accountability and they were doing a needed public service. Today, there are too many YT channels engaging in 'audit-tainment' for the primary purpose of generating clicks and income.
@Persanity
@Persanity 7 күн бұрын
That's what news is, a business. Nobody reports news without making money off it.
@chefcc90
@chefcc90 7 күн бұрын
They exist to create situations to create lawsuits. The end. They are pilfering the tax payers as well
@akbarshabazz-jenkins7847
@akbarshabazz-jenkins7847 7 күн бұрын
​@@PersanityThat's simply not true. These frauditors don't make any money from KZbin until they reach a certain amount of subscribers. The money they do get is money they beg their supporters for (gullible people like you), to bail them out of jail and to pay for gas, food, hotels, and even drugz when they're out frauditing on the road.
@akbarshabazz-jenkins7847
@akbarshabazz-jenkins7847 7 күн бұрын
​​@@PersanityThat's simply not true. Fr@uditors don't start making money from KZbin until they've reached a very large amount of subscribers. And the money they do get are from their delusional supporters (gullible people like you), when they need to be bailed out of jail, or for gas, food, hotels, booze, and even narcotics, when they're out there fr@uditing on the road...
@darkred1686
@darkred1686 7 күн бұрын
@@chefcc90 I disagree, any successful lawsuit that comes about from any police interaction is the fault of the police. If something happens because of an auditor that same situation likely would happen to some other individual who might not have a camera on hand to have evidence to hold the police accountable. It's the police and their qualified immunity that are draining tax payer money. Get rid of qualified immunity (or at least reform it so obvious stupidity isn't being repeatedly protected) and: #1 officers will actually be responsible for their own behavior and actions and #2 lawsuits won't be paid for by tax payers, they will be paid for by the officer who screwed up.
@patrickcarleton3924
@patrickcarleton3924 7 күн бұрын
When I was visiting my sister in Farmington I was caught in the middle of a physical dispute between two tribal members. I got smashed in the head by a beer bottle meant for the tribal member behind me in line at a Safeway. The police were called, they were very professional and the issue was handled. My injuries weren't too bad so I didn't go to the hospital. I should have. The next day, at the urging of my sister, I went to the Police Department to file charges against the member that struck me I found out that "nothing happened". Nobody knew what I was talking about and there was no video of the "supposed incident" I claimed happened. Even the store manager said he didn't have video of any incident when I went there to get proof. It was like it never happened. It was very strange and seemed very biased.
@JwadeProductions7
@JwadeProductions7 7 күн бұрын
Almost like…you’re making it up 🤔🫡
@ThePeachtree69
@ThePeachtree69 7 күн бұрын
Protecting their community from repercussions to bad behavior.
@areufkingkiddingme
@areufkingkiddingme 7 күн бұрын
Maybe you were hallucinating
@davebigdog
@davebigdog 7 күн бұрын
They don't want to deal with the native American Trying to get a warrant for their arrest on the reservation would be a hassle Yes you should have pressed charges at the time of the incident
@Bill_Brasky
@Bill_Brasky 7 күн бұрын
Ask Safeway to see security cameras
@HCMCDrives
@HCMCDrives 6 күн бұрын
That female officer deserves a raise. Handled the situation really well, whilst keeping his focus on the biggest threat (the guy in the car).
@jonathonmcglew4992
@jonathonmcglew4992 6 күн бұрын
The cops could have just stated we have an armed suspect. Or just detain the driver for Everyone's saftey.
@oldtimer427
@oldtimer427 4 күн бұрын
A camera is a certain threat. If these cowards are so afraid with guns, less lethal choices. Maybe, just maybe, they choose the wrong careers...
@jonathanbrazee3846
@jonathanbrazee3846 7 күн бұрын
Those auditors were idiots. Its usually the cops, not this time.
@daverobson3084
@daverobson3084 6 күн бұрын
Id disagree They were misinformed. The first cop didn't explain things well. If she had it might have been different. She said" go across the street for my investigation" which is not the same as" go across the street so this guy doesn't flip out and do something dangerous"
@DrummerJacob
@DrummerJacob 6 күн бұрын
Its not really "usually" the cops. There are tons of bad auditors and they just dont upload their videos because they know they fucked up.
@blacckkk
@blacckkk 5 күн бұрын
​@@daverobson3084ignorance of the law isn't an excuse. Play stupid games, win stupid prizes.
@VGbeck22
@VGbeck22 4 күн бұрын
@@daverobson3084your first phrasing sounds like a lawful command. There’s no reason to paraphrase it with your second version. They should have listened lmao.
@whyisblue923taken
@whyisblue923taken 4 сағат бұрын
​@@daverobson3084She said for safety. She even said for his safety and her safety. I hate cops, but she did the right thing. She could have spoon fed the guy who thinks he knows the law, but he would reject it anyway.
@kyle-yc8tb
@kyle-yc8tb 7 күн бұрын
Can the auditors claim qualified immunity?
@mustangkrillin
@mustangkrillin 7 күн бұрын
Look up qualified immunity. Not the buzz word, the actual definition. Read it SLOWLY and answer your own question.
@Don-mi6zl
@Don-mi6zl 7 күн бұрын
@@mustangkrillin Look up Sarcasm. Not the buzz word, the actual definition. Read it SLOWLY.
@wallebo
@wallebo 7 күн бұрын
Of course not. That is just for the cops that are sovereign.
@clairedesu3020
@clairedesu3020 7 күн бұрын
​@@mustangkrillin you mean the bullshit concept the supreme Court invented in the 60s so their precious cops wouldn't see even a shred of accountability? That qualified immunity?
@jlambe19
@jlambe19 7 күн бұрын
@@mustangkrillin open mouth, insert foot
@christophermullins4796
@christophermullins4796 6 күн бұрын
The lady officer should have said please film across the street for your safety, the warrant and arrest is ridiculous.
@crscts
@crscts 5 күн бұрын
It sounds like these general "obstruction" statutes seem to be written deliberately vague and can encompass actions that would be covered under 1st and 4th amendment rights.
@antoinewood2478
@antoinewood2478 7 күн бұрын
The female officer is the kind of person who should be promoted. Had zero ego throughout the interaction, managed to stay focused on the most important factor. The potentially dangerous individual in the truck. And went out and got a warrant to be sure there was legal basis instead of insisting it be handled on the street.
@jessejames9618
@jessejames9618 6 күн бұрын
She did turn her back on the potentially armed suspect so I'm not sure she's quite ready for that promotion 😊
@tremas3329
@tremas3329 6 күн бұрын
@@jessejames9618 Sophie's choice there. She had two potential threats, one she was in the process of deescalating and I see it as trust in her partner to alert her if she needed to refocus attention and for him to take care of the situation as it stood at the time. I call out good cop interactions when I see them, and she appears to have handled this one well and I call out bad ones when needed(far to many of them go very bad to give even the 'good' cops much trust)
@MikeHarrison3266
@MikeHarrison3266 7 күн бұрын
This was NOT a good situation, The Guy in the van was clearly off the plot and could have been a much bigger problem, I think giving more space the first time around would have been the right action.
@Don-mi6zl
@Don-mi6zl 7 күн бұрын
The cameras within earshot likely saved him a beating or death. Cops behave much better when there are cameras they don't control within earshot.
@RageMojo
@RageMojo 7 күн бұрын
Why? he was 10 feet away and not doing anything, do cops need 50, feet 100 feet... stfu.
@Batmann_
@Batmann_ 7 күн бұрын
@@RageMojo He was clearly agitating the guy in the truck and being a general POS. You're one of those YT people who says DAF stuff like "all cops are bad". Get some real perspective, kid. Just imagine that there were no police in this situation. This guy comes up filming and agitating someone. He is asked multiple times, in a calm, respectful manner to move back a bit. Rather than be a decent human being, he continues to shush the person asking him. Does that sound like the auditor was being a decent person?
@snowpython
@snowpython 7 күн бұрын
​@RageMojo if the police ask to much, comply and follow up afterward.
@Scleavers
@Scleavers 7 күн бұрын
​@@Batmann_ Why be in public then? There are cameras stuck to buildings and utility poles, cops wearing bodycam, teslas driving by in some places, heck would even a DJI drone filming above you. Even if the guy hurting went violent, didn't SCOTUS ruled that police have no constitutional duty to protect the public? It's the auditor's neck on the line.
@mikecollar1042
@mikecollar1042 4 күн бұрын
How did they interfere when she de-escalated with them there? She just needed to focus and not let the guy in the truck focus on the cameras. They should have explained time, place, manner to the auditors but did not. How could they be arrested later on when the one officer told them they were fine? Seems fishy.
@judgebison
@judgebison 5 күн бұрын
SEEMS MY STROKES AND BRAIN INJURY ARE NOT AN EXCUSE FOR FAILING A SOBRITY TEST
@johnthornbrue5467
@johnthornbrue5467 7 күн бұрын
Thank you for all your videos!
@Spencer859
@Spencer859 7 күн бұрын
That’s just mind blowing…I mean there’s people who get caught with drugs and people who walk out of stores with arm loads of stuff without paying and don’t get 66 days in jail.
@nsahandler
@nsahandler 7 күн бұрын
They were actively antagonizing a mentally ill man and broke the #1 rule of journalism You don't have to like or dislike officers to see and understand that those guys inserted themselves into the situation. The reaction of the distressed man is adequate evidence of that. You don't get to stick the camera in the face of a r@pe victim, either. Even if they are talking to police.
@thetruth7118
@thetruth7118 6 күн бұрын
there's people that commit murder and walk away free. welcome to the American justice system.
@thetruth7118
@thetruth7118 6 күн бұрын
@@nsahandler you are very wrong. The #1 rule of journalism is the right to publish and disseminate information, thoughts, and opinions without restraint or censorship. nobody stuck the camera in anyone's face. They are in a public area and lawfully you can record anyone you want.
@JoeMalo
@JoeMalo 6 күн бұрын
Because he was already on probation.
@user-bf8tv8xv4w
@user-bf8tv8xv4w 6 күн бұрын
@@thetruth7118 If it was just the cops telling them to leave you may have a point, they had a camera and microphone a couple of metres from the guy's face and he was clearly aggravated by the auditor and he wanted privacy whilst he was being interrogated since he told them several times to go away. At that point, the auditors were aware that they were interfering with the investigation since the cops couldn't ask the guy questions whilst he was screaming at the auditor. Auditors always claim privacy if they are asked for their names, why should they be able to record this guy's name and DOB if he wanted privacy whilst he was being interrogated. The second time the cop asked him to cross the street was also because the guy requested it and was agitated. There's no way that they weren't interfering since the guy himself wanted privacy. The cops shouldn't have to take him to the police station to ask questions since that would be the only way to give the guy privacy with auditors following them otherwise.
@jeffmellow
@jeffmellow 5 күн бұрын
The greyness the "public interest" needs to be removed. The bill of rights does not say a damn thing about "public interest." It is an excuse to give the government more power that the constitution does not grant.
@knowledgeispower6192
@knowledgeispower6192 4 күн бұрын
Someone standing in the area with a camera does hinder anything. We all know that cops turn their body worn cameras on and off whenever they feel like it. We need these auditor ls out there doing what they do because Police can not be trusted. They've proven that time and time agin.
@badlarry172
@badlarry172 7 күн бұрын
oh no....the old "your dismissed" line
@jeffthornton6998
@jeffthornton6998 7 күн бұрын
Show how unoriginal they are.
@lordfizzz
@lordfizzz 7 күн бұрын
I cringe every time
@nomadsteve5297
@nomadsteve5297 7 күн бұрын
I like to hear a auditor dismiss the cops as I know the cops really hate it 😅
@badlarry172
@badlarry172 7 күн бұрын
@@nomadsteve5297 yes when the auditor is competent, sorry but these two were not
@Allpie_isgoodpie
@Allpie_isgoodpie 7 күн бұрын
​@@nomadsteve5297Not when they're so obviously just saying it because they heard other auditors say it. This was just cringe. Like two grown ass men playing dress up and acting like 5 year olds.
@zacksimas9934
@zacksimas9934 7 күн бұрын
Thank you!!!!!
@ianb335
@ianb335 6 күн бұрын
This is the absolute best I have ever seen USA police behaved.
@KrystoferKlove
@KrystoferKlove 3 күн бұрын
Good ones aren't very interesting, so not uploaded as much
@doggosuki
@doggosuki 2 күн бұрын
i recommend the video "Pulled Over With A GUN On His Chest!" from this channel, has some super professional cops. they pulled over a guy with like 10 guns or something (which were all legal), and were extremely respectful and didn't freak out about it whatsoever
@beaupierrebondurant5651
@beaupierrebondurant5651 6 күн бұрын
Safety over liberty yields neither.
@PersonOfWeThePeople
@PersonOfWeThePeople 7 күн бұрын
That is some petty petty sh*t
@paulc-xj9ck
@paulc-xj9ck 7 күн бұрын
Judges are corrupt, tyrannical Karens and Darrens.
@szalaytamas3184
@szalaytamas3184 7 күн бұрын
How could the auditors know if that guy in the car has a gun or dangerous without telling them? I mean how is it F just because the circumstances are different than others but hey didn't know it. Other times when police order auditors away it's not lawful. I don't get this video.
@mariosaccoccio1688
@mariosaccoccio1688 2 күн бұрын
The police could have let them know that they were dealing with an unstable person & they couldn't handle him if he was upset by being filmed. They yelled fire in a movie house & complained that their rights were violated.
@JayAnon-wf8vb
@JayAnon-wf8vb 6 күн бұрын
If they're so concerned about their safety they shouldn't have kept turning away from the man in the truck and separating themselves. Safety is just an excuse for tyranny.
@bifflilla
@bifflilla 7 күн бұрын
In the absence of all the information, I get how these auditors saw the request to back away as just a tactic to assert control over them, but I also have to give it to the officers for remaining calm, respecting the rights of all people involved, and trying to reason with the auditors. To pull the whole “you’re dismissed” after those guys were so cool with you is sad and doesn’t reward what was actually fairly decent policing.
@pookie2986
@pookie2986 7 күн бұрын
The second the dude in the truck started yelling at them, you'd think they realize what was happening and back up. But "auditor" A's condescending "shh" and the "You're Dismissed" line paints a pretty in focused picture to how these two operate. In hockey we call them pests, they annoy you enough to get you to slip and then cry puppy dog tears to the ref to pull a penalty. They suck.
@Don-mi6zl
@Don-mi6zl 7 күн бұрын
​@pookie298thr auditors likely saved the dude in the trucks life.
@danporath536
@danporath536 7 күн бұрын
@@Don-mi6zl Sez’ you because…sez’ you.
@unknownunknown-cd7rx
@unknownunknown-cd7rx 7 күн бұрын
@@Don-mi6zl they litterly didnt, the dude in the truck was calm and fine, UNTIL the people started recording, which made him angry, which f he did have a weapon, then the guy in the truck would of been killed because fun fact, people with mental disabilities, dont make the smartest choices with weapons when they are angry and what happens whena suspect tries to sue deadly force on someone? the police has to sue deadly force as well and then what? the guy in the truck would of died, BECAUSE of these idiots recording
@jameswithey8898
@jameswithey8898 7 күн бұрын
​@@danporath536Sez him because there are hundreds of videos that support the FACT that cops are known to use excessive force just because their egos were hurt.....
@TheLobo91
@TheLobo91 7 күн бұрын
By this logic, anyone that doesn't want to be filmed and gets angry with the police because you are filming can stop you from filming. The first amendment will be invalid in every stop. The cops will simply provoke the person which then will lead to them arresting every auditor.
@danporath536
@danporath536 7 күн бұрын
Time, place and manner restrictions apply to the First Amendment.
@AA-BB
@AA-BB 7 күн бұрын
Cry
@Jamesaepp
@Jamesaepp 6 күн бұрын
Good to see some thoughtful consideration in the comments.
@sammerjay8128
@sammerjay8128 7 күн бұрын
Interesting how the man in the truck seems heavily intoxicated, but he is just let go? And the man in the truck doesn't understand that there is no privacy in public. Plain view doctrine.
@dylancarner
@dylancarner 6 күн бұрын
These guys are why cops think we are all just trying to stir the pot.
@MaydayAggro
@MaydayAggro 7 күн бұрын
I don't believe that Chee and Howell deserve the same grade. Howell was antagonistic; Chee was not. Chee was also only about three steps farther from the stop after the additional officers arrived than he was before they arrived. Also, the officer who gave the orders never spoke to Chee; she was addressing Howell, who was much closer than Chee was.
@Figgy20000
@Figgy20000 7 күн бұрын
Chee was convicted and is currently serving a 66 day jail sentence for obstruction. Sorry but you are just wrong. They were both told to film at a reasonable distance and refused to comply, making the situation much more dangerous for everyone involved.
@MaydayAggro
@MaydayAggro 7 күн бұрын
@@Figgy20000 Sorry but the officer spoke directly to Howell, pointed her finger directly at him when she was speaking, and said "Sir, I need you to move." That he was convicted does not make me wrong. Judges get it wrong all the time because they "back the blue." The 66 day sentence was for a previous trespassing conviction. AtA said that the charge for this incident is still pending.
@Tajarim88
@Tajarim88 7 күн бұрын
Wouldn't it be funny to have some agents or private detectives follow and film those "auditors" wherever they go in public? 😂
@Burn_Slow
@Burn_Slow 7 күн бұрын
They would prob call the police 😂😂
@Haarschmuckfachgeschafttadpole
@Haarschmuckfachgeschafttadpole 6 күн бұрын
That would actually be considered harassment in most jurisdictions if you did it multiple times.
@Manchupacabra
@Manchupacabra 6 күн бұрын
​@Haarschmuckfachgeschafttadpole Just say you're press like they do, and claim that they are public figures due to their youtube channel's notoriety. Voila, no harassment.
@Koldatt
@Koldatt 4 күн бұрын
Intention matters. If you intend to cause distress or evoke fear then this could be considered unlawful. Further, in order to use taxpayer resources there (in a perfect world) should be a legitimate reason for doing so, and (in a less twisted world) retaliation would not be one of them. That said, If some individual wanted to talk to them and followed them around asking questions and filming them in public, barring a restraining order, there is no law to stop them.
@crusher26638
@crusher26638 5 күн бұрын
How can you tell the difference between a cop telling you to move away because he/she doesn’t want to be heard or seen doing a bad job and a cop that needs more space from the press because they may be interfering. Because a suspect is getting agitated. Also, assuming that most suspects don’t want to be filmed getting caught for a crime or wrongly accused of a crime.
@rayzapolski-ho2gw
@rayzapolski-ho2gw 6 күн бұрын
This is a case where the auditors make it difficult for other auditors. While they show their disdain for the police, these officers did not attempt to violate anyone's rights and should be commended for their outstanding job in diffusing a potentially violent encounter. We need to keep holding police accountable for their actions but also to highlight their good work in situations such as this
@wlm1697
@wlm1697 7 күн бұрын
I side with the police on this one.
@DannyBoyZero
@DannyBoyZero 7 күн бұрын
Honestly, I do too. I also appreciate the fact that a channel as big as AtA is finally calling out the rampant douchebaggery in the auditing community. The difference between people like LIA and Direct D is astonishing, and it's easy to see why so many regular types think people like Direct D represent the community to our detriment.
@jberry1979
@jberry1979 7 күн бұрын
Yeah.....this guy is potentially dangerous, they should have moved across the street. Now they're making it worse, if they get arrested for interfering/obstruction/impeding it would make total sense.
@uhjyuff2095
@uhjyuff2095 7 күн бұрын
@@DannyBoyZero Normally, ATA points out everything in these videos. I think ATA missed the guy in the truck threatening violence towards the photographers because the cops had a biased. That's my opinion.
@ChaosTheory666
@ChaosTheory666 7 күн бұрын
This is why auditors need to make a habit of clarifying whether or not they are given a lawful order or not. That way they could have complied, avoided issues, and if they thought it was wrong, complained.
@jeepliving1
@jeepliving1 7 күн бұрын
Overall, I agree. My one objection to the police handling was their lack of explicit explanation of why it was necessary to distance the auditors. We've heard, "I need you to move away because you're interfering", as well as, "I can't do my investigation and watch you at the same time", both of which are usually BS claims made simply to exercise power. It would have been simple enough to inform the auditors that they were dealing with a possibly armed suspect with questionable mental stability who is threatening the auditors and making it difficult to de-escalate the situation. These auditors may not have constructively responded to this, but it would have eliminated the one thread of defense they might otherwise retain.
@b.m.4066
@b.m.4066 7 күн бұрын
These are the kind of videos I like where it shows that eta is actually unbiased and has no problem giving officers good scores when they deserve it and no issue with giving auditors bad scores when they deserve it. Keep up the good fight
@brandonbrown9598
@brandonbrown9598 7 күн бұрын
With this logic you’d have to always do what the police say because of the .005% chance that there is a legitimate need for you to disperse. Not once did they say they need to move or they’ll be placed under arrest. The second set of cops actually say they were fine doing what they’re doing. They must’ve had a 🗑️ lawyer.
@user-bf8tv8xv4w
@user-bf8tv8xv4w 6 күн бұрын
Their presence was clearly aggravating the armed mentally disturbed guy in the truck. He told them several times to go away. At that point they could see that they were impeding the investigation since the guy wanted privacy and wasn't talking to the cops whilst he was telling the auditor to go away. Auditors always complain about privacy when refusing to give their name. This guy deserves privacy to give his without some random putting a camera and microphone a few metres away from his face. Police shouldn't have to take him to the police station to give the guy privacy so they could investigate. Trying to do that would violate the guy's rights and could escalate the situation. If it was just the cops wanting him to go away, or if the guy wanted them to stay and record, then I'd agree with you, but it wasn't. The guy in the truck has rights too and he didn't ask to be interrogated in public with some random recording him.
@michaelpeel5414
@michaelpeel5414 6 күн бұрын
If he's agitated because they're filming it won't matter where they stand
@user-ue8qo3ty2n
@user-ue8qo3ty2n 5 күн бұрын
If the man in the truck was suspected of being armed with a gun, why would she and the other officer turn their backs to him in order to engage with the auditors?
@anonsaku39
@anonsaku39 7 күн бұрын
The argument for Resisting that ATA seems to side with here is that the suspect was armed and "possibly dangerous with mental health issues" and it is because of these details that we should find legitimacy in the concerns of the two police who were performing their duties. That the " legitimate safety concern" tips the scales and makes this a genuine Interference/Resisting charge, instead of a typical violation of 1st amendment rights where police are expected to perform their duties while being filmed. But I didn't see any legitimate concern for their own safety when the one male police officer stood next to one of the auditors and had pleasant chit-chat, his eyes completely off his partner and clearly not concerned. Nor did I see it in the woman officer when she stepped away from the suspect, TURNED HER BACK TO HIM and asked the auditors to cross the street. ATA got this one wrong and it is disappointing that he could miss something this obvious. If the female officer had legitimate concerns and wanted what was best for everyone in that situation, she could have at least quietly said a few words to the auditor she approached informing them of a safety concern. She did not. It was clear that the two officers there did not have a heightened safety concern for themselves or anyone else. They were in the typical course of their duties, in public, where they know it is legal and lawful to be filmed.
@Mojoremixxx
@Mojoremixxx 7 күн бұрын
Thank you for continuously uploading. I'm learning a lot about law.
@foxtayle446
@foxtayle446 6 күн бұрын
How does one get trespassed from a public park? Who has the authority to do so, the police sure don't.
@POETCERA
@POETCERA 6 күн бұрын
No one should go to jail for recording the ‘olice, EVER!
@mikeylikesit1692
@mikeylikesit1692 7 күн бұрын
People are going to get tired of that bs called officer saftey
@kcrailroader5297
@kcrailroader5297 7 күн бұрын
It is very simple. If they want privacy they MUST create it. Put up tape. Period. You got this one WAY wrong.
@cunever
@cunever 7 күн бұрын
It’s a case of crying wolf once too often. “Officer safety” has be abused to the point that the auditing public disregards it wholesale, as it is totally unclear when it is just abused and when time, place, and manner restrictions legitimately apply.
@viproverwatch8044
@viproverwatch8044 7 күн бұрын
Good point.
@danporath536
@danporath536 7 күн бұрын
They were NOT asked to stop filming, but just a reasonable request to put some distance from the officers and the man in the truck.
@MaydayAggro
@MaydayAggro 7 күн бұрын
@@danporath536 Auditors are rarely asked to stop filming. They are usually asked to move far enough away for the filming to be worthless. THAT is the point.
@sleuth2077
@sleuth2077 7 күн бұрын
I think most reasonable people have enough common sense to know the difference. A lot of these auditors act just as douchy as the cops do..... the whole “your dismissed" is one good example. So cringe worthy.
@Don-mi6zl
@Don-mi6zl 7 күн бұрын
​@@danporath536They were asked to go out of earshot. Plain and simple attempt to allow officers to verbally escalate. Thank God they didn't. It probably saved the stressed man a beating or death.
@sousadev07
@sousadev07 7 күн бұрын
And this friends is why I will always support and do my best to enact jury nullification.
@brokenwindows8920
@brokenwindows8920 7 күн бұрын
This is actually a pretty solid tactic on the police's part. Notice they ordered them to go across the street and when they ignored those orders they want about their business with the guy in the truck. The "back up" officers were simply there to mantain distance but didnt stop the filming or try to obstruct it. Then when everything was over they charged them and issued a warrant. I can see this becoming the norm espeically with police becoming more aware of citizens rights to film. Let them film and let a judge decide what to do.
@rocketmantv13
@rocketmantv13 7 күн бұрын
I wanna know how the delusional old man with a knife threatening someone that he was barred from being around didn’t get arrested 😂
@SensiBurning90
@SensiBurning90 7 күн бұрын
These guys took all the attention off him. Made themselves the main focus instead.
@beyondEV
@beyondEV 7 күн бұрын
The person he was barred from, informed the police about the fact that he had a disability. So he likely wasn't pressing charges, but just asked the police to deescalate the situation. which they did, despite the interference.
@nsahandler
@nsahandler 7 күн бұрын
Because he is having a mental health crisis my guy. Even HE called in to tell the police what his thoughts were. The #1 Rule in Journalism is to NEVER inject yourself INTO the situation. They teach this in journalism classes. These guys harassed a mentally unstable guy who begged them to back off. If he was a r@pe victim and giving an account to the police, would you feel the same way about their right to stick a camera in his face?
@rocketmantv13
@rocketmantv13 7 күн бұрын
@@beyondEV it was rhetorical. And a joke
@N3uroTypical333
@N3uroTypical333 7 күн бұрын
Have you ever griped about cops who don't do enough to de-escalate a situation? Have you ever griped about cops always being in a rush to arrest people and violate their rights? Well, these cops were trying to de-escalate.
@orionorion328
@orionorion328 6 күн бұрын
How can a order from a cop about public safety be lawful when the Supreme Court says that cops are not responsible for citizens safety?
@fs127
@fs127 6 күн бұрын
That's the paradox that rarely ever gets addressed. But I'm going to don my boot tasting hat and come up my speculation on it. Orders come from a governmental position/entity which has duties it is required to perform but has little legal repercussion if it fails to complete. The LEOs swear to take on those duties, but are still covered by constitutional protections; that means that the government can't make them run into certain demise to save another. So if a LEO refuses to do their duty there is little in terms of legal ramifications that can happen to them aside from being let go. Therefore the order for public safety is coming from an imaginary entity that can't not be responsible for itself, being processed through a fatty fleshbag that gets to pick and choose if they want to endanger themselves to save a classroom of children. Best farmyard answer I have to that doublethink.
@mef9327
@mef9327 5 күн бұрын
Remember folks, competency and judgment thereof applies both ways. I love seeing auditors expose bad cops. What I love even more is seeing good cops (few and far between as they may be) because it suggests we're not completely lost.
@Mcnuggetheadone
@Mcnuggetheadone 7 күн бұрын
Pursuing charges on these auditors WAS absolutely necessary! I love good auditors who give the proper amount of attitude when pushed and don't antagonize to gain views. These guys are the worst. Thinking you can include yourself in a police interaction just because you can film in public is absurd.
@damionjohnson9456
@damionjohnson9456 7 күн бұрын
Wow i completely disagree with grading on this video.
@PBE86
@PBE86 7 күн бұрын
3:10 If I was a cop conducting a traffic stop or investigating a violent suspect & 1A auditors are filming.. I will pretend they are not there UNTIL they are arm distance. When the bad guy goes crazy & he shoots the 1A auditor, oh well the gov't aint liable😅
@MistaCen
@MistaCen 7 күн бұрын
This true
@EXROBOWIDOW
@EXROBOWIDOW 5 күн бұрын
But the "auditors" were a distraction. You don't know that the guy wouldn't shoot you instead of them. The cop needed to be 100 percent focused on the guy in the truck. Ignoring reality takes effort, which takes away from the 100 percent focus.
@gregnemcek3998
@gregnemcek3998 7 күн бұрын
Its a dangerous precedent to set alloing cops to use the "for my safety" phrase to create an arrestable offense.
@TomJacobW
@TomJacobW Күн бұрын
These clowns would rush into a hostage situation and ask around questions and film bank robbers from 1m away. “IT’s mY riGht!”
@PepeToTheMooon
@PepeToTheMooon 7 күн бұрын
Why they gotta film like 3 ft from them though 😂
@77soko77
@77soko77 7 күн бұрын
10 ft. Is plenty of space. The police do not have the right to impose time, place, and manner restrictions. This is absolutely false. You cant take rights away from one person to calm another. If the man with the knife acts up... thats on him. Not the man with the camera. Audit the auditor is not a lawyer. He has very little legal expertise. He is beyond wrong about this and is speaking like he is more informed than others. Unfortunately half of his videos have glaring issues directly with his understanding of the laws he states.
@jeffalley4417
@jeffalley4417 7 күн бұрын
​@@77soko77does it seem like this was a pro cop sympathy video to you? Every other time, there's no issue with distance. This time, even this channel had an issue
@PBE86
@PBE86 7 күн бұрын
They wanna get shot or hurt by the suspect but the law & government. Congress can always get rid an amendment like Prohibition of Alcohol.
@luciddream2033
@luciddream2033 7 күн бұрын
​@77soko77 are you a lawyer? He is citing Supreme Court precedents. You are citing your opinions and feelings.
@TheArmchairrocker
@TheArmchairrocker 7 күн бұрын
​@@jeffalley4417it clearly was. Audit was crying about losing viewers and I guess he thinks this will somehow fix that.
@yitvan1
@yitvan1 7 күн бұрын
Thanks for covering this. Just as we should call out bad cops, bad citizen behavior should also be called out. These garbage tier “auditors” clearly just wanted to get a reaction from these officers. Solid grades from ATA 👍
@Don-mi6zl
@Don-mi6zl 7 күн бұрын
The auditors did nothing wrong and the presence of their cameras very well could be the reason the guy in the truck survived the encounter.
@DreadnoughtHvor
@DreadnoughtHvor 7 күн бұрын
​​@Don-mi6zl the guy in the truck was very obviously agitated by their presence and didn't want cameras They could have gone across the street when the female officer asked politely
@justinclement7211
@justinclement7211 7 күн бұрын
​@@Don-mi6zl They did do something wrong. The mentally unstable person who had been threatening someone, was clearly being agitated by their presence. The only thing these two guys wanted was a confrontation for KZbin views.
@Tortilla.Reform
@Tortilla.Reform 7 күн бұрын
The only difference is that a bad cop and a bad auditor don’t have the same negative impact on society, by a *massive* margin
@earache_srt8790
@earache_srt8790 7 күн бұрын
I agree the ability of this channel to judge and analyze impresses me.
@DavidMoore-lx4xz
@DavidMoore-lx4xz 5 күн бұрын
Really this is a potentially armed individual and both police officers have their back turned on him and he’s supposedly having a mental breakdown of some kind. That crap will never hold up in court.
@dlbooneok
@dlbooneok 6 күн бұрын
Just because you have a right to do something doesn’t mean you should do something.
@fredmalito9869
@fredmalito9869 6 күн бұрын
Them having to turn their back to a potentially dangerous, potentially armed man just for these two clowns… Jesus.
@j.p.f.4007
@j.p.f.4007 6 күн бұрын
you're potentially armed and I'm afraid of you.
@fredmalito9869
@fredmalito9869 5 күн бұрын
@@j.p.f.4007 I am, and you should be.
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