Clueless Cops Make Up FAKE LAWS To Arrest Innocent Man

[@AuditTheAudit]

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[@nikburisson9-pissedoffpeasant-]

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[@nickjones5435]

Wow your country is primitive! Why do you ridiculously sing ' land of the free and home of the brave '?

[@plasmaman9592]

A $20 ham radio from Amazon set to 433.92 MHz Will defeat the door and glass break sensors of a simply safe system. It will overwhelm the bay station and the bay station will not hear the 1 milliwatt Signal that the sensors send out when there is a 5-10 watt radio transmitting nearby on that frequency? There are videos proving this on KZbin from reputable people, including the lock Picking Lawyer. As strongly recommend, people do not touch the system or this brand. I got. Rid of mine as soon as I found out and tested that that trick mentioned above works. It's been known for years long before the youtube videos came out and simply say it doesn't do anything to fix the problem and it's an easy fix but it requires a different base station in different sensors and simply safe doesn't want to do all that

[@Triple88a]

It's ironic that you support simplisafe when there's decent amount of cases where they have deals with the police and will release your footage without a warrant.

[@ImBradCrites]

@@plasmaman9592 plus if the scenario that he described happened, where was his alarm then? This isn't the first time it has been promoted here.

[@lonk9183]

Pretty interesting how quickly something can go from “you’re not in any trouble” to “I need to see your ID, you’re participating in suspicious activity”. Guy changed his mind on a dime when the auditor exercised his right to remain silent.

[@TCR2025]

I noticed that too.

[@Lyricistnz]

Wonder why 4% of the worlds population has 22 percent of the worlds prison population?

[@dakotah4866]

The funny thing is asking that that is assault and battery identity is safe and protected by the Bill of Rights. Which came from the 10th amendment of the Constitution the federal one. We are the right to have our identity safe with other person's, property and papers,

[@coolHandLuke5150]

It's all part of training. It puts the individual at easy or more compliance

[@Aaron565]

Ultimately they can stop and detain anyone within hundreds of miles of the border due to the current illegal invasion. Everyone can be detained for the purposes of identification. Illegals have no constitutional rights.

[@ianbattles7290]

Since when does "an anonymous phone call" invalidate the U.S. Constitution?

[@footlongcone]

Depends on how much melanin you've got.

[@huntertrum3658]

That damn Alexander Graham Bell! If it wasn't for him, we'd still have rights!😂😂

[@SpencerfromEarth]

I say we make "anonymous phone calls" about them 🤷

[@JJ-Freedom]

@@huntertrum3658 lol Nice!

[@Sondan1988]

When you have a badge, a gun, and don't know the law.

[@usarmyfl1]

When Police KNOW they are lying and making stuff up to arrest someone, they need to be charged with kidnapping, false imprisonment, possession of a firearm while in the commission of a felony, etc etc.

[@nelo1285]

One can dream 😢

[@ThatGuy-vi8ch]

Problem is it's hard to prove if the cop keeps lying. All these crooks gotta do is keep saying "I was doing my job" and not fess up.

[@macattack5863]

Policies like that will only work if you and those that support those policies all go become cops because we will run out pretty quick.

[@rondolan6457]

Your so funny so tell me with all this curpution going on by the police officer, show me all these idiots lawsuits that's they' claim. It's funny how only Less than a hand full of frauditior actually filed a law suit and won. Or just maybe it hard to sue when you're video taping your own crime

[@rondolan6457]

​@@ThatGuy-vi8chand it's hard to sue when you're video taping your own crime. That's why less than a hand full of frauditior actually filed a law suit and won. With all this curpution going on we're all these lawsuits these idiots are claiming

[@kathyroberts9037]

How about the city attorney not speaking about the police denying the man arrested his rights to a lawyer?! What the fuck?!

[@thefancytiefling]

It's because they know qualified immunity is strong and broken

[@disorganizedorg]

His invocation of the Pulse Nightclub shootings crossed lines.

[@matthewzimmerman5064]

@@disorganizedorgnot really, that case has been won in similar situations so the DA used a similar situation and referred to that decision as an example. Look, defense attorneys try to set absolute criminals free as that individual has a right to a fair trial. So the DA does the same with officers to defend them even if they personally don’t think it’s correct. It’s their job and also to protect the government money they serve. Less money provided because of a lawsuit means less they can spend which could effect their paychecks. It’s not right, just facts.

[@fattdamon1980]

​@@matthewzimmerman5064 I understand what you're saying but I'm of the belief that our government should not extend that courtesy to people that break the laws they've sworn to uphold.

[@rucoreyful]

@@matthewzimmerman5064the DA does not work for the police , if there is no PC or corruption they are obligated to expose it, the defense attorneys job is to defend there client no matter what…

[@TruthAndMoreTruth]

The first officer literally said "you're not doing anything wrong, I just wanted to talk"... He basically stated that there's no reason to arrest or detain this guy. These officers just make shit up on the fly because no one has ever challenged them.

[@marine296]

The fact that the lieutenant acted the way he did is the reason everyone below him thinks it's okay. This stink always comes from up top and seeps down. We need a MASSIVE reeducation with our police organizations.

[@AZStarYT]

If I had a quarter for each time I've been asked this question seriously, I'd have enough to buy a candy bar off the truck that just went by. Until it costs someone a few hundred dollar$, that is. Then MAYBE there's some time to learn why they should ask the same questions I've told people to ask . . .

[@HotMonkeyDik]

And they are the hardest to get rid of

[@connorcharron8534]

@@AZStarYTyou should probably stop smoking whatever you’re on

[@amandamorris2213]

Unfortunately these thugs are trained to violate our rights and to use force! It's so disgusting!!! Blue line gang members corrupt from the top down!!!

[@whiskeykilmer1866]

@@connorcharron8534 I think maybe it's bath-salts.

[@chefcc90]

By this cops logic, if my neighbor called that I was sitting on my porch looking suspicious then the cop would have the authority to enter my property to detain me

[@TCR2025]

This is literally what happens all the time. Just saw a video on We the People University about this the other day where a brother was arguing with a family member, they called the cops, and they just went and arrested the man in his house.

[@JC-zv3cv]

Why, what are you doing on your porch?

[@Lorrieboi]

I got bad news for you

[@paragon92]

@@JC-zv3cv you can’t be this naive right? Sorry if this is a joke you never know anymore.

[@JC-zv3cv]

@@paragon92 fair question given it's you tube..yes, im kidding.

[@daveblackman816]

15:15 is the biggest example of gaslighting I’ve ever seen. “Because of what happened in a completely unrelated incident in Pulse nightclub, how dare Mr. Valentine commit the crime of….filming in public! And not immediately bending the knee!!” Like, what???

[@Ghost7065]

Pulse was a mentally unstable man who was suspiciously able to get many high power weapons even though he waa blacklist from owning them and blacklisted with flying and/or leaving the country. Even more interesting, he had CIA connections via his father, if I remember correctly. Pulse was our government failing its people. Not the other way around.

[@Ghost7065]

These officers and the news are complete morons

[@tangowally]

You are confused about what gaslighting is. Look up the definition.

[@pjaypender1009]

Like am I supposed to believe the cops GAF about the people killed at Pulse?

[@SpencerfromEarth]

​@@tangowallyno one ever uses it right, it's just a nonsense word at this point, which is a shame.

[@rickb-i9t]

I got a call of an officer being fat and stupid, which is a crime.

[@joejoerobinson8724]

Beautiful

[@jacoblenentine7996]

It really should be… being stupid as a cop is dangerous and being fat as a cop just means they don’t even do anything, it’s a very active job and it obviously requires you to be at least some what fit

[@Sharky_On_The_Road]

hahaha. good one.

[@PsycheDBZ]

🤣🤣🤣 I'd like to report that crime aswell

[@parsnip2699]

The Sergeant is under investigation for posing as the Turtle guy from Dana Carvey's Master of Disguise movie.

[@johnguilfoyle3073]

Suspicion of WHAT???? They can't finish that sentence because there's no specific crime. He's not walking around with a crowbar to break into cars. His actions were not suspicious of a specific crime that they could or would articulate. They created the reason for his arrest by trying to force him to identify. They seized his personal property and wanted to search it without a warrant to find some evidence to use against him. So, "In this day and age" police are allowed to walk up to someone who is committing no crime, demand Identification, and arrest him for "Interfering with police." We are no longer living in a Free Country if this can happen.

[@jeffjohnson9844]

They don't seem to understand that they are the ones that created all of the "this day and age" crap. It's interesting how they create this mess by acting like tyrants, but still look for ways to blame us for it.

[@roadcalm3303]

The Civil Rights Lawyer has the best tagline for situations like this. “My rights don’t end where you fear begin. Freedom is scary, deal with it.”

[@Zodiacalesotericmatrix]

Bald eagles everywhere! Scary isn't it?

[@roadcalm3303]

@handle1627 it was a typo. He says “begins”. Then it wouldn’t let me correct it.

[@chslt79]

​@handle1627 You're being a jackass. "My freedom doesn't stop where your fear begins. Freedom is scary. Deal with it." You know exactly what was being said.

[@christine_lovelace]

I'll never understand how ID tells the cops what anyone is doing.

[@ianbattles7290]

Yeah, what part of my driver's license tells a cop if I am breaking the law or not???

[@johnnytx45]

They’re fishing for warrants.

[@pablogaeta3815]

Also, you're less likely to just walk away when they're holding your license. It's a way of extending the detention.

[@smilebehappy6102]

The Chief, Prosecutor or Mayor always says " I'm not going to comment on an open investigation" when getting sued. As soon as a police officers says he is investigating then these auditors should say, ( oh you are doing an investigation? then I'm not going to comment on an open investigation)

[@michealnelsonauthor]

They can run the ID for priors and see if there are any outstanding warrants. Which is not a specific activity at the present time and place and therefore irrelevant and a violation of 4A rights.

[@ianbattles7290]

I'm so sick of these sovereign citizen cops who think they can just make up their own laws on the spot.

[@tsbjelland]

But they can, and did. The auditor was arrested and has not posted an audit since. Not only did the cops suffer no consequences to their illegal actions, they were commended by the city atty.

[@concernedamerican8]

​@@tsbjellandand that is the problem with auditors that never do anything when their rights are violated. If you're going to do it, you better be prepared to follow through with complaints and lawsuits. If you're not, then don't do it.

[@kotlolish]

@@tsbjelland You forget they are allowed to lie to get you to admit to a crime and arrest you without breaking the constitution. Seems police really like skipping the "admit to a crime part" or "without breaking the constitiuion" So them lieing saying: "This is the law." would be seen as fine, as long as they didn't arrest anyone till they got proof for it.

[@mr.duanesharpe]

I saw this and I literally had to re LOOK up Terry V Ohio as I was dumbfounded by the words that that cop was saying. He really gave me a headache with that nonsense. I am also sick of those SOVCITS also. What an embarrassment.

[@rondolan6457]

So I want you to explain to me we're do these unemployed uneducated criminals felon ex con get all their info from, I know it's not from doing their own law research or spending time in a law library. I'll tell you From other idiots KZbin channel they believe everything they hear and see from other idiots then copy what other idiots are doing. But you say cops make up their own laws . If these idiots actually did their own law research they would know what their doing is wrong but their wouldn't be no click bait video for click and view and KZbin $$$$

[@essential_worker_no]

“Well you’re recording, it’s suspicious activity. Which puts this into a category of suspicious activity.” Wow great detective work there

[@TeaInTheMorning-we2kh]

Translation: give me your ID for my report because it's all they trained me to do

[@disorganizedorg]

Sort of like being arrested for resisting illegal arrest with no underlying crime.

[@Banksydog]

Getting the ID is like crack cocaine to these tyrants. They itch for it.

[@RobertTurosik]

If filming(freedom of the press) in public is a constitutional right. How can it be considered illegal?

[@Kenzirs]

Your first mistake here is trying to use logic.

[@JJJJspam]

Any activity that is constitutionally protected cannot be used as a reason to ID even in stop and ID states.

[@WesBeardtooth]

The act of filming isn't illegal in of itself, however, if you are filming for the intent of doing something illegal then that can be used against you.

[@Jenifer_R_]

Because it's never about the camera. It's about the deliberately provocative behaviour of the one wielding it.

[@JJJJspam]

@Jenifer_R_ what's provocative about holding a camera and not saying anything? I've seen it happen to people in their own yard that wasn't saying anything..

[@EduardoSalas]

Dude's just going on about his own business, cops approach, then charge him with "interfering"?!? Come on, man. Ridiculous.

[@TomJakobW]

Imagine standing around, then having someone approaching you and then them complaining that you are interfering with them. That‘s some galaxy brain move. 😂

[@WICKEDMagma]

Cops: Why does the public hate us? We do nothing wrong Also cops:

[@revolutioninprint8906]

Well to be fair, the right backs the blue no matter what the police do, and they know that. It gives them the ability to do whatever they want to citizens.

[@DrummerJacob]

Can you quote any cop saying cops do nothing wrong or is that just the delusion that passed through your brain today.

[@huntertrum3658]

There's a reason there's no song called "F the Fire Department" and "F the Paramedics".

[@oxyfee6486]

Cops never ask that question, they don’t care, at all! I see this comment quite often, they don’t give our feelings a second thought, they won’t lose one minutes sleep over our feelings.

[@gw6667]

Lame comments: I say lame stuff in unoriginal syntax Your comment:

[@quinpuryear8068]

These geniuses think that the phrase “in this day and age” completely dissolves our constitutional rights

[@warwickscram1656]

Crazy isn't it? Sometimes they suspend the constitution because a dog said so.

[@IamScoHo]

I'd bet the house they've been using that line since the 1800s.

[@katiekane5247]

​@@IamScoHopossibly but definitely after the patriot act 😕

[@BPoweredLove]

I'm 53 and I've heard that nonsense all my life. It's just something said to attempt to justify absolutely insane behavior.

[@BPoweredLove]

@@katiekane5247 The saying has nothing whatsoever to do with the USA Patriot Act.

[@michaelmeixner8544]

Three levels of supervisors and they are still so stupid, each one is stupider than the other.

[@katiekane5247]

Dumb, Dumb and Dumber Larry, Darrell and Darryl Take your pick

[@halfmil6467]

💩 for brains runs downhill.

[@cptainbubbles]

Guy literally says that remaining silent until you can speak to your lawyer isn't a right.

[@Jobs92742]

The correlation of them trying to justify the arrest with Pulse nightclub incident and this guy just filming in a parking lot is absolutely BONKERS! Are the cops admitting that they’re all “fabulous” or something??

[@loosemoose9799]

No, they are demonstrating they are scared rabbits.

[@joelthames1141]

"In this day and age!"

[@michelechesney3599]

Fabulous 😂

[@katiekane5247]

​@@michelechesney3599now I'm envisioning them with their feather boas flapping 🤣

[@CeeLoGreen666]

LOL "1, 2, 3, you're under arrest" wtf does this guy even know his job?

[@johanahonen8627]

He just thinks he is showing off by counting to 3

[@ianbattles7290]

Policing is the only occupation where incompetence is a valid defense.

[@icin4d]

@@ianbattles7290 A majority of the time it's not incompetence. It's deliberate and malicious.

[@matthewsanchez7953]

Operating as though he's speaking to a child.

[@josethemj23shoefan66]

Crazy he’s been harassing and abusing his powers of authority for long enough to be promoted to lieutenant. They need to fire him and place him in jail for unlawful arrest ect

[@GoErikTheRed]

I find it wild that filming in public is suddenly the most suspicious thing you can do

[@Upppp9]

It depends how it's done, doesn't it? Standing silently outside a business and filming through every window (as many heroic auditors do) until the boss arrives and asks what the hell you're doing is a lot different and far more suspicious than filming like a normal person (ie, filming your family and friends and doing sightseeing, etc).

[@citrus6422]

Not to mention this dude is asking for problem by heightened the tension

[@bodydoublesecurity4987]

​@@Upppp9exactly. Having a decent conversation is a lost art I see.....

[@jamierupert7563]

Ikr? I thought camera's had been around for awhile now. It's not like it's some newfangled contraption and nobody know what they are. Blows my mind that taking pictures is "suspicious".

[@crocroo7811]

Government is to blame. In every single law enforcement and security sector there is a discussion of “terrorism”. During that discussion they will teach you to challenge anyone who is randomly recording in public as a potential hostile reconnaissance… Hence all these officers are literally trained by the Government to act the way they do.

[@albundy9904]

That was amazingly quick from "I'm just curious" to "we got called and told"

[@gregdoh]

Nobody in that department has read a single line of the Constitution and never learned basic law. Some of the worst police officers I've seen in my life.

[@TCR2025]

So now a call just suspends all your rights? Wow. They are so angry the guy won’t give his ID. And once they have his ID, they’d still find another reason to arrest him.

[@michel3691]

That's SC.

[@revolutioninprint8906]

Yep, police know they can do what they want because right wingers back the blue no matter what.

[@revolutioninprint8906]

It's because the right backs the blue no matter what

[@johnnytx45]

@@revolutioninprint8906 Cities are mostly run by Democrats.

[@Brett_S_420]

​@revolutioninprint8906 *Unless attempting a violent coup for Trump.

[@partin25]

“In this day and time” is how every dictatorship starts

[@Sgt_Glory]

🎯

[@PeterCiesla]

Officer Hearsay reporting for duty.

[@ronaldwhite9176]

As a retired officer myself and to see another officer see a man standing around in a parking with a camera videotaping and doing nothing wrong, why the fuck stop and questioning him is the most Dumbest thinking, I wouldn't even say $hit but just watch him for a while and move on to a real crime.

[@mikesanders8621]

I guess you were one of the decent ones. The current state of the police must infuriate you.

[@fayfayfunches]

I love how the cop walks up and immediately starts lying. Just shameful.

[@scottpierce3351]

I hate how the first officer parks his car at the Stop Sign rather than any of the 50 available dedicated spaces for parking. That's a sign of entitlement.

[@selseyonetwenty4631]

I think it's done to make a statement.

[@TheBwest90]

The first thing I thought while watching this video was what the hell is he doing parking there

[@jordanreed5866]

Ever notice how police, rarely, if ever, utilize their turn signals? Worse than BMW drivers

[@WorldwideDarts]

The guy hasn't uploaded a video in over 7 years. The LT has most likely retired with full pension by now. Imagine how many rights he's violated in his long career.

[@reeves5000]

Suspicious that he stopped uploading to youtube 2 months after this.

[@bluemenace04]

The problem with a lot of cops is that they're taught to believe that whatever they say is a "lawful command" while that's far from the truth. The word of a cop isn't the law and they need to understand this.

[@swashkiv7509]

They take it reeaalll personal when you don’t do exactly what they say immediately, no matter what it is.

[@ronaldwhite9176]

They're not taught that it's something they put on their mind.

[@sudonymh]

I've seen many LEOs in these videos that exercise willful and tactical ignorance. They already understand this, but their will ignorance serves their purposes.

[@7heRedBaron]

Simon Says Syndrome.

[@maraudostrogoth747]

The real problem is, as a general rule, the vast majority of cops are straight up dumb. And they've been recruited, trained, and retained based on their inability to think things through, and to simply act without thinking.

[@breadgarlichouse2265]

the cop said “suspicious activity is a misdemeanor” … lol wtf .

[@wvguy7238]

They quoted a shooting that targeted a group of people that have nothing to do with them.

[@Angelalynx999]

Remember, "police safety" is more important than Constitutional rights. Cops are the sovereign citizens.

[@normlang1994]

He was arrested for contempt of police arrogance/ignorance.

[@tylerledbetter6455]

Pignorance and another stupidvisor

[@paulmonin5215]

Again a uneducated cop trying to act smart self destructing in plain sight

[@wadestanton]

maybe you don't recognize corruption

[@paulmonin5215]

@@wadestanton Corruption without saying it!

[@wadestanton]

@@paulmonin5215 Hiding corruption with the cover of uneducated is very effective, in US. Recent refugees know that.

[@icin4d]

They know what they are doing. They'll put the citizen through hell teaching them not to challenge their egos. They know they can fall back on the blue brotherhood, their unions and qualified immunity. It's just plain corruption.

[@ortizguard2816]

Those cops displayed nothing but ignorance about the law or rights.

[@For_The_Masses]

They scared Mr. Valentine, since he hasn't updated since. I bet that police department thinks they won.

[@heyspookyboogie644]

So many cops seem to think that if they can imagine a potential future crime, then you’re suspicious.

[@stevedavies1226]

Law enforcement is completely out of control across this entire country

[@dakotah4866]

I know the union is f'd

[@icin4d]

They wouldn't need their propaganda of "Back the Blue" or their blue line across an American flag if they didn't realize they are being hated more and more for their true culture being exposed everyday online.

[@NIX5s]

Many many times the cops call into their own dispatch themselves to claim somebody is suspicious

[@Upppp9]

Every normal person can see that the 'audit community' are deliberating acting suspicious to get a response. All of the problems of this community would go away if you just tried not being a dick.

[@katiekane5247]

​@@Upppp9so by your logic, an auditor with sensory issues doesn't exist. Guess the deaf guy they tazed isn't real?

[@MrThhg]

@@Upppp9 🤦‍♂🤦‍♂

[@jordanreed5866]

So utilizing your constitutional rights is suspicious? Okay bootlicker

[@jordanreed5866]

So I assume you’d let officers into your home without a warrant? It’d be pretty “suspicious” not to

[@ianbattles7290]

"I don't consent to any searches, seizures, or questions. *So either place me under arrest for public photography or leave me alone."*

[@dennisjohnsen7297]

The Turner v Driver case: Yes, cops are authorized to detain subjects for investigative purposes, but the cops only detained/“hot boxed” him for the sole purpose of obtaining his ID. The court concluded that there was no investigative purpose, but rather to torture Turner with the hope that he would voluntarily comply. Yes, they were afforded QI from criminal prosecution, but they did agree to a settlement in the civil case. More importantly, they created case law, thus Turner v Driver. What I never understood about this case was at the time of Mr. Turner’s detention, the Texas Identification law, 38.02 clearly states that the only time a member of the public is lawfully required to present ID was when operating a motor vehicle and a traffic stop is conducted, and when the subject has been lawfully arrested. I think there’s something about presenting ID when you are identified as a witness to a crime, but I’m not sure about that one. With that being said, how could those cops be granted QI for violating an established law? It’s not like it’s some obscure law, like eating vanilla ice cream in church is a crime. It’s the law that governs every crack addict/ID junkie in Texas.

[@LiteGreenLungz]

This channel is so informative i love this channel more than my recreational KZbin videos of pranks and animal content ! I’ve learned so much thru ATA that it’s almost a priority to watch! I’ve learned that I’m in the 11th circuit and the dos and donts of police interactions

[@doc693]

I was a 911 paramedic for 30 years and each year I was in the more I hated cops

[@redlight3932]

Does it roll over

[@doc693]

@@redlight3932 idk how to answer that, than to say. I know it all started with my “father” who was a pos Wv state Trooper road pirate with all the power in the world given to him with his badge. So maybe yes it does f roll over, ds.

[@Setupshot8indaSide]

Deepest Comment of the Year!

[@streeta1484]

Does anybody ever get arrested and charged for suspicion, or are they only ever arrested and charged for refusing to ID, obstruction and resisting?

[@jacobray7494]

That's what the charge is. Suspicion is not a crime so they just book it with obstruction or hindering an investigation. Pretty shitty but usually because of QI they can just book you on charge as long as it's even slightly close to what the suspect is doing.

[@luciddream2033]

Suspicion of a crime can be the basis of a Terry Stop. If the cops suspect someone of a crime, they don't need to know you committed a crime. There may be a legitimate excuse for your suspicious behavior, but in some states, you can be arrested for obstruction or other laws if you refuse to provide a name to officers during that time.

[@reformcongress]

@@luciddream2033 In no state do cops not have to have RAS before detaining someone, and if they do not have RAS for detaining someone, they cannot compel someone to give their ID. There's no such thing as stop and ID. The stop and ID just means that if they are detained for lawful reasons, they are required to provide ID if requested. But without RAS, no ID required in any state. Once any suspicion of a crime is dispelled, then any detention after that is unlawful.

[@luciddream2033]

@reformcongress they can't demand you give an ID unless you are driving. They can demand you provide your name. If you want to try and educate people, at least get it correct.

[@trevorodell5564]

I want to see more auditors reply to the "suspicious" argument, "I'm a suspect? For what crime?" Then at least you get it on video one way or the other. Follow-up is "what implicates me here?" Cops are masters of "I'm not saying that," and other evasive language, but a filmed admission of no RAS would help a lot in the courthouse.

[@brianshaw373]

My goodness. How quickly “You’re not in any trouble; I’m just curious“ degraded from a lie to a full investigation. It’s amazing that “shut up and observe” isn’t the first investigation skill they exercise.

[@jordanreed5866]

Officers ALWAYS use the logic of, “we got a call, therefore you are guilty”

[@benjewett8186]

Has there EVER been a case where someone films a location and then "shoots up the place?"

[@thesuperdingos]

The city attorneys statement defending the cops is all sorts of cray cray. He didn’t need to ID, nor did he need permission to film a public parking lot.

[@Anthony-knows-little]

we go from "You're not in trouble or nothing here" to being physically assaulted and placed under arrest. Our rights don't end because police get scared. Its a shame he didn't sue. I hope more auditors pay them a visit and pursue legal action.

[@steventreadway9966]

An investigation requires that they first identify a crime, THEN look for a suspect. When an investigation identifies a person, then look for a crime, is absolutely a violation of basic constitutional rights and piss poor investigative skills.

[@paperman9708]

So anyone can make a phone call and that nullified any rights he had.

[@JustATakit]

Based off of the fact that he has not uploaded another video since this happened is proof enough that the police action should be seen as a violation of his rights and the cops should be charged and punished accordingly.

[@concernedamerican8]

and that is the problem with auditors that never do anything when their rights are violated. If you're going to do it, you better be prepared to follow through with complaints and lawsuits. If you're not, then don't do it.

[@goodolearkygal5746]

​@@concernedamerican8 yup. I tell my kids, if I had money and no kids, I would do this. Do not start a fight if you don't finish it. They will screw with you for the rest of your life so you damn well better be prepared to take it all the way through the courts

[@kennyo0079]

That doesn’t make sense. Just because he didn’t post another video is evidence that the cops violated the law? Explain

[@goodolearkygal5746]

@kennyo0079 the measure of if they violated your 1st ammendment rights is "would this have a chilling effect for a normal person" meaning, if this happened to a regular person would they stop doing it even though it's perfectly legal? If yes, then they have violated your rights. If you flip off a cop and they pull you over and arrest you it's a violation because a normal person would be careful not to flip them off (legal) because of that action

[@concernedamerican8]

@@goodolearkygal5746 I would love to do it, but don't because I also have children and don't have the means to fight the government. So I just don't.

[@Lyricistnz]

How can 3 old police officers be so inept at their jobs?

[@ML-tf5xp]

Training

[@joshuasargent991]

Because they are doing their job exactly as intended. Cops are there to suppress and intimidate anyone who isn't a rich old white dude. That's what they're for.

[@wheresbarry1434]

@@ML-tf5xp Yeah, bad or no training. That and many years of exercising power over others corrupting them.

[@nanook6620]

​@ML-tf5xp that and it's what they've gotten away with for years. They all want "the good old days" to return. They all say stuff like "in the good old days we'd beat his ass and send throw him in a cell".

[@gibblespascack1418]

@@wheresbarry1434 These ideas are reinforced over and over again. It is a management issue.

[@dlmckenz]

"I need your ID. How do I know you're not here to shoot this place up?" Did I miss the text on my license/ID that tells law enforcement exactly what I am/am not going to do?

[@LucasL512]

You could say "How do I know you're not here to shoot this place up?" to anyone out in public at anytime, whether or not they are filming, if you want to get some easy arrests

[@matthewsanchez7953]

When an officer places an ID card against their forehead it activates their latent telepathic abilities and they can magically see your "future crimes", but really they just want to fish for warrants and make their department reports easier to fill out.

[@fasillimerick7394]

I think there are two reasons why they want to identify the auditor. They can see if he has a violent criminal record, and so they can add HTLE (hostile to law enforcement) to his license information.

[@rayriffle1147]

You’ve never noticed the check boxes on your DL? “Is this person going to commit a crime?: []Yes []No []Maybe”

[@yanoamustamu2390]

As a non-US human, hearing the words "land of the free" is a fucking joke when your policing system pulls of stunts like this with 0 repercussion

[@peterwatkins671]

As a US person, yup.

[@benjaminrealy5661]

Great analysis and fully agree with your grades. I love how you make it clear that RAS could have been possible in a similar situation. The theory of someone casing out a place for a future crime could provide enough RAS, even if the subject was not actually casing the place. And that would be a good lesson for would be auditors. But I do agree with you that in this case, it didn't seem like he could have been perceived as casing the place. I do understand the extra caution by officers in wake of the nightclub attack 3 days earlier.

[@kevinvilmont6061]

How can police officers not know this. This is their number one misconception. we got a call your suspicious therefore your suspect. Where did they learn this? They knew for well he was not a threat of any kind they were demanding the ID as a power trip

[@dakotah4866]

That's why I don't carry that crap on me

[@ianbattles7290]

I think it's "suspicious" that cops don't seem to understand basic constitutional rights.

[@dakotah4866]

@@ianbattles7290 what's funny is people believing the Constitution grants you rights. You are right come from God or creator on paper it comes from the Bill of Rights. the Constitution was created to limit the state and federal government "Richard McDonald". Read what's in the Constitution it's not for us it's for the government

[@Aaron565]

Ultimately they can stop and detain anyone within hundreds of miles of the border due to the current illegal invasion. Everyone can be detained for the purposes of identification. Illegals have no constitutional rights.

[@dajosh42069]

They certainly did NOT know that he was "no threat of any kind". Having said that, they were still absolutely wrong, and were nasty to this gentleman purely for exercising his constitutional rights. That kind of policing has NO PLACE in the United States. But to say that they "knew (full) well he was not a threat of any kind" is just false. There's no humanly possible way for them to know if he is a threat or not. To reitterate, that certainly doesn't give them the right to detain, identify, or harass the guy..and they were flat out wrong in arresting him... Claiming he was "interfering with police" makes absolutely NO SENSE. I can't walk into a police station, make demands of the officers, and then have them charged with "interfering" because they won't do what I'm telling them to do... I mean... that is, admittedly, not a great analogy, but... the point is the same.

[@sillykicker0877]

Here's how I'm going to justify violating your rights, in this day and age. WTF!

[@ccompson2]

It's not though, this was 8 years ago

[@kaindabadguy]

If police face no consequences for incorrectly using reasonable suspicion or “identification laws”, they will continue to use it as justification for violating citizens’ rights.

[@Bruce4lmighty]

It is unlawful for government to convert constitutionally protected rights into a criminal offence. This is exactly what happened here

[@lolabigcups7121]

I don't understand how getting the guys ID would prove or disprove whether the guy was going to shoot up place?

[@mindyourbizok]

👍🏾👍🏾👍🏾

[@rhinestonecowboy_]

“You’re not in trouble” ✋😄🤚

[@michel3691]

Means you're in trouble.

[@rhinestonecowboy_]

@@michel3691 100% 🤣

[@01gtbdaily30]

The worst part is that even if you’re not breaking the law and the courts will prove it later on that’s not going to stop you from catching a beating during the encounter for bruising the ego of the officer.

[@concernedcitizen1874]

Lt. Jim Holcombe retired in 2017. He is a horrible example of why policing as a whole is so corrupt. All the officers on scene will forever think they were right and continue to believe they can demand ID because they have "Terry suspicion", which isn't a thing. They can either have specific individual facts that indicate someone is involved in criminal activity or they do not. We are all dumber if we listen to any of these officers.

[@shawngoad7405]

Supreme Court said a camera alone can't be deemed suspicious

[@chrisg4287]

Liking and commenting on videos to help the algorithm. Recently I've been getting other auditing type videos in my feed, but AtA is one I always look for.

[@briananderson7839]

I have come to the conclusion that it's not a good idea to ask for a supervisor because you will probably find yourself surrounded by four officers trying to outdo each other in showing how to take control of the situation. This was a prime example of this behavior. The lieutenant went from detention to arrest in seconds.

[@SmittyAZ]

The reason that I'm asking for / demanding your ID? Is just an excuse to run you for warrants. It has NOTHING to do with this encounter. Over / Under 99% of the time?

[@dinkywinky2860]

I'll take the over, 99.999%

[@codbdup88]

He wanted to call him boy sooo bad

[@mjdietz]

The Audit Movement Keep Growing Blessings and Accountability of The Oath of Office

[@knowEyeDeer]

Dude was ahead of the times blazing the trail for all of our favourite auditors and cop watchers today. I'm going to subscribe to his channel and 'watch' all his audits.

[@kevinkemry5852]

Raging paranoia does not equal reasonable suspicion

[@josethemj23shoefan66]

Unlawful arrest at its finest I hope he sues the shit out of the department

[@lizcollinson2692]

How is a shooting in a gay nightclub a readon for heightened security at a cop shop? Seriously the victim complex is high here.

[@joelthames1141]

Well the Pulse shooting WAS 500 miles away in FL! That is close enough to raise a concern in S Carolina!

[@kyble3021]

Maybe the cops were all gay...

[@Skylocke_]

@@joelthames1141 A shooting 500 miles away is reason to heighten security? I highly doubt so, if that was the case, my local PD would be holding every citizen at gunpoint almost daily.

[@Upppp9]

Like most cops, he has a good radar for weirdos and troublemakers, and most of the audit community fit that description.

[@lizcollinson2692]

@@Upppp9 go on show how is weirdo illegal. Define troublemaker what is illegal. What do they do that is making trouble? exercising rights, asking questions, filming Does a cop have a radar that can be racist too, how do they tell when their opinion radar is discriminatory?

[@anthoniusalphaproject1588]

Asking for ID is a trigger for escalation to induce charges.

[@thanatos6902]

"We got a call... so you're not American at this moment and you belong to us and we can do what we want and we can make you do anything we want cause WE ARE the LAW!" what a joke

[@Busterpoo1964]

Lets face it, the propensity to criminality is higher in the police than the public.

[@Upppp9]

The propensity to obliviousness is high in the audit community.

[@palecrayon]

If the police are incapable of defending a police station in what world are they capable of defending the public

[@joelmartin2549]

They don’t defend the public, that’s not their purpose.

[@palecrayon]

@@joelmartin2549 and here i thought their job was to serve and protect? What is it then? Only solving crimes? Because they are absolutely dog shit at that too

[@reeves5000]

Police are mostly hired for revenue collection.

[@blazerfox22]

“Why are you filming? I’m just curious, you’re not in trouble or nothing.” “We’ll you’re recording, it’s suspicious activity”

[@ianbattles7290]

I think it's suspicious that a police officer is trying to claim my constitutional rights are "suspicious".

[@Rkbmomma]

This just irks me because what do they think tourists do all day? 🤷‍♀️📱🎥

[@dbfjohn2502]

They just dont hear the Stupid coming out of their mouths.

[@luciddream2033]

In the case Turner v Driver, the circuit court upheld the brief detention of someone filming the police station as reasonable.

[@Upppp9]

@@Rkbmomma Tourists (and other normal people) do not act *anything* like the audit community.

[@mikebekar3616]

Thank you for bringing this back up. Hopefully someone in st Louis sees this and goes to the chief about it.

[@chewykrombach416]

How do police not understand that peaking their curiosity is NOT the same as Reasonable Articulable Suspicion?

[@lizcollinson2692]

Disgusting department, everyone of them. They all participated. They even did maintain any leadership of the interaction, with the stop passing between 3 officers every few minutes.

[@Corporal.]

That temu version of John Candy looking old clown, needs to be fired ASAP!!

[@beaupierrebondurant5651]

That's insulting to...the late John Candy.

[@beaupierrebondurant5651]

So,a call means that my rights can be dismissed and disregarded.

[@kathryncurtis9320]

I knew he looked familiar 😂

[@Corporal.]

@@beaupierrebondurant5651 Literally stated a "temu" version of John Candy. Think about that for a sec, and then watch "Only the Lonely" LOL

[@88997799]

Remember, call the police department and request permission to exercise your rights first. Or this could happen to you according to the DA.

[@Nemo-ff9he]

Sometimes I wonder how these cops pass the GED test.

[@alyssatipton5080]

When I still lived in my hometown of Columbus, GA, whenever CPD would approach me, (and thanks to my late mother’s antics over the years, the Columbus Piggie Department and I saw each other a lot) they would always start with the “How’s it going?” Or “How ya do’n, man?” I would always smile and say “Don’t act like you actually care, but I have been better.” Those egomaniacs haaaated that response lol

[@PlantDaddy1991]

My rights don't end where your fear begins. Get over it.

[@mikesanders8621]

Someone's a fan of a certain civil rights lawyer.

[@davidreed6070]

Being subjectively suspicious and reasonable articulatable suspicion is two different things.

[@atomtron1066]

"Because you're not answering me" So what you are saying is I have NO Right to Remain Silent? Or you implying I myself have no Rights?

[@buckeyenative1365]

I saw a video where the guy invoked the 5th A, and the cop said he couldn't invoke the 5th since he wasn't under arrest and hadn't been mirandized. 😳🤦‍♀️

[@atomtron1066]

@@buckeyenative1365 So the reasoning in that case is if I am innocent and have not been convicted I have Zero Rights, but if they arrest me I do have Rights? Yeah. That is extremely thin.,

[@davidkelly6171]

Hey ATA! Love your channel, been a fan for a while. Would love some fresh content, other than 8 year old audits. Keep up the good work!

[@the_water_wizard952]

A charge of Interfering now?? They just keep chaning it

[@Based_Dept.]

If anyone says "video taping" these days you know they are stuck in the old ways and will violate you.

[@eldie3d]

There is no such thing as a "Stop and ID state". I'm in Louisiana (a stop and ID state), and the police cannot just stop and ID me for no reason. It falls under Terry vs Ohio. They have to have reasonable articulable suspicion that a crime has been, is being, or about to be a crime committed - just like in all the states that aren't 'stop and ID states'. All 50 states require reasonable articulable suspicion of a crime to 'stop and ID" someone, and no state can just stop and ID anyone at anytime for any reason minus reasonable articulable suspicion of a crime.

[@loosemoose9799]

Perfect! Retired LEO

[@thesilentninja9255]

Sitting here wondering if that town doesn't have any non overweight officers.

[@fancycrafts7774]

Dude said the fifth AND the sixth don’t matter.

[@Graemesbullys]

I love how the criminal attorney blames the victim for the criminal cops violating his rights and breaking the law. Typical behavior of cowards that are ignorant of the most basic aspects of the law.

[@reeves5000]

The DA had to say that. If he didn't, he was all but assuring a windfall for the victim.