He Has Threesomes With His Brother (He Thinks It’s Normal)

[@whitneyw.7919]

"Pervert father raised pervert son" There i fixed the title

[@catspajamas2961]

takes me 10 paragraphs to say what you said in 5 words.

[@FrogeniusW.G.]

@@catspajamas2961 Bc.it's not that simple..

[@mpro9446]

😂touché

[@kellharris2491]

@@FrogeniusW.G. It is. The man was almost 40 chasing her as a teenager.

[@mlokole254]

🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣....I know, its not funny!

[@toosense]

The son was testing the water with his father and his young wife to see how’d they react.

[@SUZANNECARPENTER-ou3je]

I agree

[@itscarmine]

BINGO. He wants to run the same play with the new wife

[@jonahkolell]

Thank you

[@itscarmine]

You know also, the son saying he would’ve kept it going had he actually been attracted to his brother’s wife was another hint he was trying to drop to the new wife. And she’s into it, she’s calling bc it’s been on her mind nonstop since the first conversation

[@msbeecee1]

Omg THIS thread

[@Singalingaring]

Husband doesn’t find incest shocking. Alright. Red flag 🚩

[@capitalist4life]

Not technically incest. He probably didn’t want his brother there but had to compromise

[@thomas317us2]

Devis three way. I wonder if they did the Eiffel Tower

[@rebeccahicks2392]

@@capitalist4life He didn't "have to compromise" because he didn't have to do it in the first place.

[@retrograde126]

I love to fk my brother, because it feels good to feel him inside me.

[@ashtonstout7375]

@@capitalist4life He said he would have sex with his brother again, but not with his sister-in-law, because he does not find her attractive. That is most definitely incest and he did want his brother there.

[@b.1162]

Not a single word uttered in this call was normal.

[@libbylee9-997]

I can't read any of the replies on this

[@bernieboo7637]

Pretty much all downhill after "Hi, how are you?"

[@mrod87]

@@bernieboo7637😂😂😂😂 the comments combined with the Dr. s commentary I’m literally cracking up. “Sounds like a country song”

[@Bryan-ig2zp]

Completely normal for Christians. Only thing missing was "how do I live with a child molestator"

[@itsme-notyou]

Including a grown man saying "b t dubs"

[@Journey188]

She called her mom because she knows she is wiser than her husband! She doesn’t trust her husband

[@ricosuave3229]

Right!! He made that such a big deal as if it were any different than asking ANYONE else outside of her husband who already gave her no response 🤦🏻‍♂️

[@EowynSoup]

There's nothing wrong with calling your mum for advice. I'll be calling my mum for advice for as long as we're both alive. I trust her, I can talk to her about anything, she understands me the best out of everyone so she knows what's the best for me. Cherish your mum.

[@boadecia1433]

If we all had your mum, we would cherish them.

[@BickyToya]

Yes, yes, yes!!

[@deannatreat6819]

THIS! 100% this! My mama was the one I would call for advice with anything. She was my sounding board! Sadly she passed 10 years ago...wish I still had my sounding board.

[@billyin4c514]

He was saying that she has her own ethics and her own principles.And this is a call that should not have required any advice from another person. There's times when yes, you're going to have to seek out the judgment of somebody else.This is serious enough that she should not have had to do that

[@danigirl103]

This almost 40 yr old man pursued a 20/21 year old girl and she’s shocked that people in this family have boundary issues? She’s ‘stepmom’ to grown folks the same age as her so idk how she’s just now starting to see red flags…

[@DarkSpyro707]

most 40 year old men dont think 40 year old women as physically attractive compared to women half their age.

[@reginakrystyn]

@@DarkSpyro707 Nah. Most 40 year old men know that 40 year old women have firm & established boundaries. Immature 40 year old men can’t handle that.

[@ineedhoez]

Pahahaahahhaa!!!!

[@lavienestpasunlongfleuvetr2559]

@@DarkSpyro707 But smart 40-something men don't get involved with women in their early to mid twenties.

[@ralegade7710]

Dani… Regardless of a man’s age… Men are always going to universally find women in their early 20’s the most attractive. They’re the most beautiful and fertile. That’s the most important part of male mate selection. It’s not weird at all.

[@reginakrystyn]

This 26 year old stepmom needs to call the previous wife (wives) and ask why she (they) left!!!

[@ineedhoez]

Hell yeah

[@theluckienurse]

Yep!!

[@heroldjaras9909]

oh yeah. i mean.....this whole situation....her age,...... the stepsons age......his brother....the father........the situation.... i mean...WHAT!?

[@c.edales740]

She doesn’t need to call anyone… she needs to leave. Something tell me the son w I’ll be attracted to her.

[@victoriabanks7701]

That sounds like wise advice to me!

[@gillianquinn7160]

“Stop calling your Mam” did I hear this right?? When you reach adulthood, this is when your Mum can transition into your best friend. There is nothing more beautiful than a Mother daughter relationship.

[@missyb6741]

100%

[@Singalingaring]

No you didn’t hear him right.

[@annjepsen1621]

Yeah, I don't think he meant it quite like that, but I don't like how he said it. The Facebook poll is absolutely childish. There's nothing wrong with being close to your mother, especially when you need help. I'm 40 and my mom (57) is my bestie. 😊

[@kathleenmechan6021]

I know it is alright to call HIM but not your MUM. What a stupid thing to say!

[@rachaelbell1280]

yeah I think he's just missing the female perspective of how the relationship can shift into adulthood. he just wouldn't have any idea what a mother-daughter relationship through all the years is like

[@venusretrograde6177]

Saying that she’s acting like a child for calling her mom is a bit much in my opinion… most women with a healthy mother-daughter relationship would call their mom in a time where they needed advice or support. *edit: I understand that she is wrong for other things that she did in the relationship but I don’t believe that this is one of them and I don’t agree with John on this particular matter. I still agree with him on most of his points.

[@dawnwilliams969]

Agree!

[@nellieshoals]

Yeah, no, that was weird... his reaction.

[@kaybrown9608]

She can talk to her mother if she wants..how does that make her childish?

[@canonaler]

I think it's a bit childish in terms of having enmeshed boundaries with the mother. I am very close with my parents but I don't want them in my personal business with everything I do or encounter. Would you want your husband to go tell all his family, say, if you had a dry vagina and needed help with it ? Some things need to stay personal and not be told to extended family.

[@venusretrograde6177]

@@canonaler I personally don’t think that’s a fair comparison. I definitely think it would be inappropriate to talk about your partners genitalia with your parents however, I don’t think it’s inappropriate to discuss something that they did; especially something that you are having a moral issue in accepting. I’d say it would be appropriate for a woman to seek counsel on something like this from her mother. Some people don’t have friends they can talk to about this kind of stuff.

[@katelynbendinsky5080]

The fact that the whole family was getting their nails done together struck me as strange, but I was like aww that's wholesome. Then it took a turn really fast.

[@madhurimachatterjee7988]

Me too. 😂😂😂 It went downhill real quick. 😂😂😂😂

[@melissahood2960]

I thought it was weird, the manicures.

[@msbeecee1]

LOL yeah like a hard left turn

[@katelynbendinsky5080]

Just personal bias I guess. Since I usually see going as a solo activity to relax and take a break from family chaos. I’ll take one of my kids sometimes, but I wouldn’t think to bring both and my husband in one trip lol

[@Katiekay.]

My dad wouldn't be caught dead in a nail salon. And I wouldn't be with any man who took his son to get a manicure together. It's creepy and I highly doubt anyone he was in the military with would be doing such a feminine activity with their grown son@CarterCook-dk9wn

[@iceescape]

Sounds like the entire messed up family is gaslighting her. She knows what's right in her heart and should probably run for the hills.

[@carnivoreRon]

He probably told her because he wants her to participate, too. YUCK!! Run away from this family!!

[@firefly9838]

You just made that up. We don't know how he feels. Your wild speculation is gross.

[@kunya16]

If he's willing to bang his brother he might just be willing to add dad in too.

[@mariahconklin4150]

Especially with married couple it can destroy their relationship and cause one of them to get jealous and go crazy like those crime shows almost always someone gets jealous.

[@silverlining6259]

💯

[@lozer93gurl]

@@firefly9838Actually, I thought the same thing, why else would he tell her that while the 3 of them were out getting manicures? And I think that’s why the dad’s reaction (or lack there of) freak her out. This just might be one of “those” families.

[@didine256]

🤣 her husband was 40yo and lurking after 20yo on Facebook. This is how they meet and the rest is history. Right from the start it was messed up lol

[@johndone8045]

26 and 43 not that big of a gap And theyve been married for 5 years, seems working out well

[@didine256]

@@johndone8045 dude, he was chasing girls the same age his kids are, that's creepy AF

[@willak79bud90]

@@didine256 nah

[@changetocome100]

Well that's when they got married, I'm thinking she was a teenager when they started dating.

[@willak79bud90]

@@changetocome100 she wasn't a teenager.

[@curious6379]

I hope that any of my adult children will approach me with any problems they deal with. Until I die, I'll be their sounding board, their anchor, and support.

[@JeriLynnKarr]

EXACTLY

[@melstarr1864]

I also expect my adult children to call me (and they do) when they want my perspective on something, but this should not be a substitute for their own judgement. This woman is immature; not only is she calling mommie to tell her what to do, but she’s also soliciting advice via facebook polls. She just expected her husband to handle this, and when he didn’t, she was lost.

[@brendaleverick3655]

What she may or may not realize yet is that the reason why the sons have no morals is because the father doesn't. That's why he wasn't shocked and didn't verbally correct them. She married a man without morals, apparently. I see it as a big red flag; I think she does too.

[@collegeclips333]

Right? Such a missed opportunity..why didn't he address this?

[@ashen8046]

Totally agreed. There is a much deeper level that was not at all addressed.

[@Delboydunno]

I think the fact that the son felt comfortable enough with the stepmom to tell her make me think she should question the nature of her relationship and boundaries with him.

[@KatieBellino]

Or he's saying things for shock value because he's so disturbed that his father would marry such a young woman.

[@boxelder9147]

I was thinking that too. Hes spying her

[@Matt-cr4vv]

It seems like her stepson is scoping things out because he is physically interested in her. And based on dads reaction and the existence that is having three somes with his brother and the wife which is so wild. I genuinely wouldn’t be surprised if dad endorsed this occurring between them and the son because clearly the family has no issues with some really out there sexual relationships. And I dont want to judge something I truly don’t know all the facts of but as extreme as this is, and something I would not truly believe if I wasn’t listening, but the family having unusual standards as it applies to these things isn’t entirely a surprise if you consider that she married a man who is twice her age and she is the same age as his actual children. And she seems to lack a lot of maturity by comparison to handle this stuff in the sense that she can’t communicate this with her husband had to call her mom. I can’t decide if it’s some sort of mental abuse where she doesn’t feel free to leave or if crassly this was a money motivated marriage. Who knows

[@brianabeans4549]

@@Matt-cr4vvyup, son is definitely watching p000rn & waiting for an opportunity.

[@nadeenzamora]

​@@Matt-cr4vvmy thoughts exactly. It was a tester balloon. The son DEFINITELY wanted to see how she would respond to that.

[@denisemcclain6416]

I called my mom for advice till the day she died. Matter of fact, she lived next door to my husband and I and we both had an amazing relationship with her. Our elders can have some great insight.

[@mpro9446]

What’s wrong with calling the mum for support??? Lol I’m 34 and I still do this .. she’s my best friend !

[@unlockyourcock]

There is absolutely nothing wrong with that. I‘m very thankful that I have such a good relationship with my mom. Who is this guy to say that‘s a bad thing? He‘s probably just jealous because he isn‘t close with his own mom.

[@mariahconklin4150]

@@unlockyourcock lol

[@bryansmith7238]

If you run to mum for all your problems you have issues.

[@jackieyoung3359]

I think he was thinking because this woman and her husband have such a big age gap that she relies on “adults” to make decisions for her or project their thoughts, feelings, etc. on her. Instead of trusting her gut and handling it on her own, she ran to her mother almost like a child would.

[@wildolive3630]

This is definitely a phone a friend/mom situation.

[@kat7047]

I’m 42 and live a happy healthy life with great relationships and I still call my mother to talk through things. There is absolutely nothing wrong with her calling her mama.

[@twerja1993]

I think he means there is a difference between asking your Mom for advice for a problem that comes up and needing to hear her mom’s opinion for every little thing because she can’t function without it.

[@sierraalice8072]

@@twerja1993i took it as being weird to talk to your mom about threesomes

[@forpeace1580]

I agree. What a wonderful relationship to be able to be open and share with your mother and get her thoughts. Who better than your mother or father, if you have that kind of relationship. So, it's ok to call a stranger on his live show and ask his opinion over your mother?

[@anglophils645]

I'm a 67 year old woman, and my mother died when I was 46. I was devastated at her loss, be cause she was my best friend and confidente. I was also her best friend and confidente. We were not mommy and baby girl, we were two adult women who were very close. I think it's great when children and parents can grow into close adult friendships, of equals. This young woman sounds like she has the same type of relationship with her mother.

[@thabsmkhize2481]

@@anglophils645 thank you for sharing this. Made me feel validated ❤ I’m sorry that you lost your mom, and grateful for the reminder to cherish mine.

[@TrickponyCripple]

My first thought was that the son wants the stepmom and is planting a seed with dad.

[@patriciaconnolly1475]

I'll take your comment one step further. I think this was already discussed between the son and father to see how she would react.

[@jessicasimmons166]

@@patriciaconnolly1475I didn’t even think about that. You might be right.

[@engagedanddivorcedpodcast]

No, there’s absolutely nothing wrong with calling her mom about this. I’d be telling my parents too because we’re close and I need their insight and advice

[@thestorybehindthat5236]

I agree. That's pretty startling. Wouldn't even know what to do with that.

[@ddaley87]

The problem is now your mom knows all your business. When you are supposed to be the leaders of the family. Talk to your husband first. And work it out with them.

[@matticus6339]

@@ddaley87 Exactly.

[@matticus6339]

You are part of the problem. To many people are getting there parents involved in there marriage. Its not there business. To be on good speaking terms with your parents is great, to talk often is great. But to give them info into your personal marriage is wrong.

[@Singalingaring]

Take another listen.

[@toscadonna]

I’d be divorcing right on out of this family. No telling what her husband has been up to all of those years. And he married a much younger woman who’d be innocent and inexperienced to put up with this kind of incest craziness. If she has children with him, she’s gonna have to watch the creepy uncles who have no boundaries.

[@jaybstyles_official520]

That's bs women are married to younger guys no one has a problem with it Inexperienced that's bs this is not a job application Tell women to date men their age it's that simple I taught y'all said the past doesn't matter

[@siteworld123]

💯!!!

[@sandracraft517]

It's actually creepy half-brothers.

[@evelynmarx6212]

🤢🤢🤮🤮

[@jfb3361]

She got married when she was 20/21... she's likely been reliant on her husband for these 5 years... I think she's doing the calculation that leaving will be hard and she doesn't have good prospects alone. But yes, I think she's in a pickle. Her husband is likely not a good fella, and his family clearly isn't.

[@anglophils645]

I'm a 67 year old woman, and I think this young woman's mother's comments indicate that Mom has the same suspicions that I do. The step-son is a creep. The story about the threesome with his brother and sister in law is made up nonsense. He's saying that, because he's attracted to his step-mother, and he's telling that story in front of her and his father, fishing to see whether they will invite him for a threesome. That's why Mom is telling her to avoid him as much as possible.

[@Katprint]

💯

[@karen-zb7pu]

Agreed. He is floating an idea and watching the response intently.

[@vanessas2363]

I agree. It's made up to test the water..... Horrid

[@lidamarcelazapata-ortiz9095]

Dad is in it. I bet if she investigates. Dad has done it before with son/s

[@vanessas2363]

@@lidamarcelazapata-ortiz9095 good point, yes, i bet its that. How incestuous and gross.

[@mark.daniel]

I never thought Dr. Delony would have a Game of Thrones themed episode.

[@Ready-ForTheEnd]

LOL

[@shaunacoleman3306]

😂

[@CraigWhargoul]

Yeah, but the theme song is played with wash tubs and banjos

[@mrod87]

There’s a couple other ones he needs to put them together in a summary video and give it that title. 😂

[@MS-cg1mj]

😂😅

[@justmejenny7986]

Dysfunctional family is an understatement.

[@thulisilemlotshwa7917]

No matter how old you are, calling your mum for advice isn't shocking, even 40 year old woman call their 60 year old moms, Doc nothing shocks me with your answers,you always Luke warm with your answers.😢

[@xinwilson]

I lost it at "yea I did a Facebook poll" oh my... Bet she kept people entertained for days 😂

[@bigbb416-5]

🤣🤣🤣

[@Ad-Lo]

⚰️

[@amberdeterman5815]

That would have been amazing to see 😂

[@AC-qo8oq]

I love those fb people 😂😂

[@rebeccaspratling2865]

😂

[@498chris]

Let’s be clear-calling your mom or another adult who you have a good relationship with for advice isn’t a bad thing. Idk why he’s making it out to be such a terrible thing.

[@Rise-and-Shine333]

Yea exactly that was weird. He didn’t come off very well saying that

[@corrieworou4813]

True, but I think his point is she needs to be an adult too! Once she makes her phone calls, she needs to make her stand

[@nellieshoals]

Bc they should be calling HIM, not their moms. 🙄😑

[@JaxLittles]

Absolutely disagree. Look at this as if it was the other way around in gender. If a young guy called his mom or dad, people would call him a mommy's boy or that he needs to grow up if he's going to be in an adult relationship and should have his own values and make his own decisions. Also the mom gave her trash advice. He sees that too

[@BrandonZickefoose2014]

Agreed, this guy is weird.

[@joeliza4047]

One comment that hit me between the eyes. Did the son tell the story while they are all out getting a group manicure because him and dad like the idea of sharing his dad's wife and they concocted the plan together? This would explain why dad had no reaction. He was in on it. Get out now.

[@TEM14411]

Bingo

[@crunchybunbun]

100%

[@nonelikememe]

Bingo

[@jonaswunderkind4580]

100%

[@sjm9876]

Hit the nail on the head. They sound like a bunch of sickos

[@racheljames7]

We've became so concerned with "not judging others" that we think we have to be seen to not disaprove of absolutely disgusting behaviour.

[@ivonned32]

So true!!!

[@Veracityseeker7]

Thank you

[@maryansel932]

Absolutely true!

[@nodramamomma2777]

Yep.

[@rebeccaspratling2865]

Bingo! Degeneracy is becoming the new normal and I cannot stand it.

[@barosalearninglab]

That screwed up family has no boundaries. "Nothing surprised me anymore," said a man who married a 20-year-old in his 40s.

[@oldsouthpaw]

I think stepson was throwing it out there, like hey dad if you ya'll wanna give it a go with me, let's go! I"m down with it!

[@SeaChellesShore]

Seriously curious about her husband now, since he produced two sons with this type of ethics combined with the fact, at 39, he married someone who wasn’t even at the legal age to drink (20 yo - so likely dated her at 19 years.).

[@sharonhalk8679]

Bingo! Dad isn’t shocked because he raised sons that are okay with that behavior. They grew up with no boundaries and I wouldn’t be surprised if he told them because he was fishing the idea for dad & stepmom to try it.

[@imenehaddad2860]

They're testing the water to see if she'd join in 😂

[@johnsmith-kt7ef]

i would be curious to know what may have happened when these two sons were kids...

[@ErinThePsychicWitch]

@@imenehaddad2860 1000% that’s what I thought too

[@MaxSujyReact]

You are overthinking. Grown adults do not have to agree with your sense of morality, religious belief, etc. Live and let live. Stop trying to impose your worldview to others.

[@rajeswarikannan430]

Like father like son... dad married a 21 year old when he had a 21 year son. I would say to the 26 yr old run. Entire family including the caller is crazy.

[@JackMason-oq8lf]

You people must be living under rocks. You sound like neanderthals. You quote Jesus and then pass judgement on people. It's not christ-ian to judge. Don't you people know anything about Jesus? Don't you read the teachings of Jesus in the old testament? It's unfortunate that this idiot Zoomer boy opened his mouth about his affair, which puts his brother on shakey ground too. Lots of people have three-ways. Maybe they just don't talk about it because they know they will be judged by prudes with dull sex lives.

[@SamanthaP48]

Yeah the dad/husband may be a creep but the girl is a Golddigger. They both deserve one another. We need to stop removing accountability from young women as if they don’t know what they’re doing. They are absolutely predatorily targeting older men make NO MISTAKE. (and don’t worry she will leave with this age gap they only have a 2% chance of success and she’ll be walking away with all his money & all of her youth gone) 💁🏼‍♀️

[@joyparker3116]

It’s not about the money- She seems to love him and wants to be with him!! She doesn’t seem like a gold digger to us!! God bless!! People are crazy !!

[@WalburgisLuppus]

I really hope anyone who comes across this video will really listen carefully to this dialoge and the advice John gives, rather than thinking he is missing the point or being critical of the caller. He offers so much insight it requires watching this video more than once to unpack it all. Appreciate this man and his approach so so much!

[@RianneMision]

I clicked on this video because of the title, but I stayed because of the comment section. 😂😂😂

[@lav7161]

She lost me at the Facebook poll 😂😂😂

[@ea7109]

😂😂😂😂

[@kw2075]

Right. Immature af.

[@NY_CountryGal]

She lost me at dating a guy with kids the same age as her😬...and here I thought 24-31 was a gap😂😂

[@marissashelley2362]

I'm 74 & thought I'd heard everything. Yet, I'm in SHOCK!!! 🤯 🤯 🤯

[@kristinrichmond8185]

Stop calling your mom? Are you serious? There’s a difference between being emotionally dependent on your mom in adulthood and asking advice. Sheesh.

[@dovestone_]

Exactly

[@susannapoli2308]

Yes, I have been married 11 years and I am in a wonderful, bonded marriage. I still call my mom for advice. There are limits- I would not ever call her to circumvent my husband and go behind his back, and not ever to vent about my husband because anything between us is only between us. But outside of that there’s nothing wrong with seeking wise council, no matter how old you are.

[@susanjean3114]

I agree

[@HallieSinclair]

Yeah I think he might not realize that most women tell their mothers everything, to be honest...

[@kellygirl912]

Every woman would call their mom.

[@sarahhuse9709]

I don't think he dug deep enough on this one. What the crap happened in that home to turn out two sons that would sleep with eachother...and one of their wives? And how in the world is he not shocked and horrified? Yeah, he has seen some stuff, but this is of a different nature and it's very close to home. If, even after time to think and absorb the situation, he just kind of shrugs, there is something deeply, deeply wrong with him. And although some age gap romances are fine I am a little concerned about this one.

[@johnmartin4641]

I don’t think that’s what happened. From what I understand, the sons didn’t sleep together, they just shared the wife.

[@a.humphries8678]

And then to feel comfortable telling people about it...

[@Nature-ep5cu]

@@johnmartin4641 3 some they had is what she said

[@johnmartin4641]

@@Nature-ep5cu I’m aware. That doesn’t necessarily mean they all screwed each other. What likely happened is the two brothers shared the wife and didn’t do anything with each other.

[@Mrs.TJTaylor]

Just a little concerned?

[@patriot-hj5vx]

John, i'm a 32 year old woman and i call my mother for advice. This is normal. She's not my "mommy" - she's a woman who has seen the world and lived enough to guide me better than i can guide myself at times. And judging by the comments others are roasting you as well.

[@chetwilson]

You’re watching an episode about A THREESOME WITH A BROTHER, and you comment about one tiny tiny TINY portion of the episode

[@tanabanana8535]

​@chetwilson what is wrong with you?

[@chetwilson]

@@tanabanana8535 I’m just shocked that people don’t talk about the um brother threesome, instead they talk about one sentence he said which he didn’t bring up again

[@SamanthaP48]

Yeah I call my mother for advice too but not about sexual private things that other individuals tell me. Not even my own sexual experiences with my own husband. -_- Too many people here are conflating asking a mom for advice and the topic. She’s also almost 30 and still seems to not have her own discernment. By 18 I was leading my own life and by 20 I had a husband that I went to for advice. This is a future divorcee guaranteed.

[@lucihail4444]

@@chetwilsona lot of people did, he’s giving advice and his comments seemed ignorant

[@janwells2199]

How about, "I'm not comfortable hearing details about your private life. Leave me out of it." And your husband must support you in this.

[@jjones3566]

Jan Wells, I agree!

[@VeeAlee]

I love your solution.

[@leslie3566]

agreed

[@FrogeniusW.G.]

Same here.

[@mariawaugh2017]

Simple enough

[@cg741graf5]

Scary the amount of people in the comments that think incest is acceptable and no big deal…Jesus take the wheel. 😞

[@kristenivory628]

Not incest if 2 males are just having sex with female

[@emmaangelicahoo]

I think the confusion is that many of us think the brothers were just sharing the wife, not being sexual with each other. Incest is if the brothers were physically sexual with each other. Sexually attracted to each other and act on it. This seems to be a threesome where the focus was on the woman involved. In the spectrum of unhealthy and not appropriate, one is WAY greater than the other, but certainly both instances most people wouldn’t say is healthy or showcases good judgement. And one is certainly waaaayyy more messed up.

[@LSSYLondon]

The Borgias, Game of Thrones, House of Dragon...

[@winniefindstheway]

That still counts as incestuous... even if they don't do anything to eachother... ​@@emmaangelicahoo

[@lalaa555]

​@@winniefindstheway no, it doesn't. They didn't interact with each other, just watched. It's like saying you are gay if you watch p*rn because you watch a man with a woman. It's about the woman.

[@cassandrab474]

hot take but i don't think it's weird to call your mom. i'm a woman and i'm 28 and married and i call my mom about things in my life just bc we are close. i don't need her to solve all my problems or anything, we even live in different states but i do ask her for advice on things and use her as a confidant because i trust her. i don't think that's childish but maybe that's just me lol

[@ep3lol]

Dr. John has such a knack for taking licentious sounding topics and turnimg them into deep, meaningful discussions.

[@pattyajones]

Dr. John is a judgmental ASSHOLE. Pretty sure he's a "Christian" too. Oh wait, what does the Bible say in Matthew 7 : "Do not judge, or you too will be judged. For in the same way you judge others, you will be judged, and with the measure you use, it will be measured to you. "Why do you look at the speck of sawdust in your brother's eye and pay no attention to the plank in your own eye?

[@meglukes]

Yeah no way I’d be staying that professional. I’d be like “WTF YOU MEAN YOUR STEPSON IS ENGAGING INCEST AND YOUR HUSBAND DOESN’T CARE EWWWWW!!!”

[@billyjohnson9166]

Exactly he makes a big deal about everything

[@intensepassion3382]

The internet is not only revealing how amoral people are but is escalating it with "don't judge" trend. We have to "use judgement" for what it's meant to determine what is wrong vs what is right. A situation like this is a momentary lust filled opportunity, that destroys.

[@kunya16]

The "don't judge" trend is so annoying. Everyone judges, everyone needs to. Don't be a judgemental prick, but absolutely do judge situations and people. Use discernment.

[@silverlining6259]

Giving into your desires will destroy your soul and I agree,do t judge means “I don’t have any morals”

[@rtphotos4691]

@@kunya16 - Yes, this "don't judge" nonsense is getting women k-lled. I see women defending strangulation by telling others not to "kink shame" when you tell them that strangulation is violence.

[@declaracionespolemicas]

​@@rtphotos4691 If they're agreeing to the strangulation, what are you going to do about it? 😂

[@rtphotos4691]

@@declaracionespolemicas - Educate women on the m*rder rate and risk of stroke and d**th from male pattern violence.

[@westhamaremassive8099]

Idk what’s wrong with calling you’re mum for advice you’re mum and dad are the best person to ask advice from in my opinion

[@jet4415]

Women: Quit marrying a father figure.

[@apebass2215]

Why? If they intend on having children with their husband he needs to be a father figure.

[@KeraJaay]

@@apebass2215 that’s not what they mean. She married a much older man whom could be around her fathers age.

[@apebass2215]

@@KeraJaay so?

[@sobeliever1638]

100% did not marry a father figure

[@rtphotos4691]

@@apebass2215 - A father figure to their children not the wife. Men target very young women because they are naïve. The OP is saying don't marry these old men.

[@changetocome100]

I think John is more shocked about a 20yr old marrying someone 20yrs her senior. Throw the whole family away!

[@Michelleyouare]

To be fair this is probably the biggest issue. At least from her standpoint. It's already apparent he pulled the wool over her eyes. Someone older would have known what questions to ask and to dip a toe in the water of this craziness and it wouldn't be such a shock

[@ruth6028]

Marrying someone younger is not the issue when it is men that are older. Look at Rod Stewart fathered a child way into his 60‘s. Obviously he had a wife who was a lot younger. But now if the woman is 20 years older then her husband, society would say he needs a mother. Age is not the issue here. The issue is that the husband is ok with his sons having incess relationship.

[@bonjovi2792]

​@ruth6028 Men's fertility degrades as they age. The quality of sperm drops exponentially after 30 leading to more fertility issues/deformities in children

[@hookashley]

It's disgusting to call this woman a child for using her mother as a sounding board. We should all be so lucky to have that kind of our relationship with our parents that we can honestly talk to them about what we're going through.

[@lizarrohillario7057]

Relax that was 30 seconds of a 20 minute conversation

[@leannemerry7480]

Honestly that seems like some sort of trigger for him or his culture is different because I’ve never seen that sort of reaction about anyone confiding in their mother like this, even at her age.

[@ashleydurham7397]

I completely agree. He was completely wrong for that.

[@edwardberrocal7266]

She called the wrong show. JERRY, JERRY, JERRY, JERRY.

[@nildabridgeman8104]

Or Richard Bey 🎊🎉

[@livingonhighvibe]

Maury or Wilkos. RIP Jerry.

[@SwimSweetie100]

You lost me when you kept harping on this woman calling her mother. Some women do not have close friendships. She is lucky enough to have a mother she can confide in, why are you shaming her for that?

[@justabunneh6490]

For a lot of people, their mother is their most trustworthy ally.

[@jacquelineglitter4328]

Me and my mother didn't have spouses so we always give each other advice.

[@Tempo50]

You obviously have an unhealthy relationship with your mother. Telling her mom about family dirty laundry is wrong.

[@SwimSweetie100]

@@Tempo50 who me? I don’t talk to my mom about anything, we aren’t close. But I think it is nice some people can confide in a parent

[@mannarm23]

Bc sometimes it’s an indicator of nvr having individuating from ur parents like when kids look to parents for a reaction for their fall to see how they should handle something

[@arithebarbarian6756]

She loved showing people on facebook. She loved telling people on a youtube show. She loves all the drama

[@oldsouthpaw]

My question is like is your family and friends on your FB page, if so you just told them all, my stepsons are Bi Guys, with an incest twist

[@berngirl5624]

She probably had a fake profile or a group site that has anonymity.

[@YaBasicMillenial]

I’m 39, happily married and a sales director and I still call my mum about topics

[@amendaalmonte2236]

I think it’s disturbing that at 38 years old this guy decided to marry a 20 year old. So I’m not sure why she’s shocked 😅

[@chrisslayer9014]

YEAH DUDE 40 for really?! and a 26 talk about a huge age gap

[@Matt-cr4vv]

Because she clearly lacks a ton of emotional maturity. This scenario is shocking even with how the father is because nobody reasonably expects such a wild relationship to be a thing and for a parent to not care at all about it even to a point of expressing at a minimum that it’s super weird. But it seems like nobody in this family has their stuff together and it’s kinda amazing.

[@abark]

She's 17 years, 11 months, 29 days and 23 hours old you sick pervert!

[@sarajane5306]

I don't have any issues with that.

[@exnecross3141]

Wtf is wrong with someone in their 30s or even 40s dating with someone in their 20s? Why are people trying to make this weird?

[@JeromeStuartNicholsTube]

Sex educator here: the primary issue is the step son EVER thinking that was something he should share with his family. This is a relatively common thing, but it is a deviance that will never been acceptable to the public. Why did he think it was OK??? The boundaries in this family are very bad.

[@Pjj3125]

Incest is relatively common? And it’s fine, but telling people is the problem? I wouldn’t want you educating anyone about sex.

[@Silvermoonscorpion]

​@@Pjj3125I think he meant incest happens much more often than we'd like to think or accept not that he, the sex educator, personally condones the behavior. I'll agree in the questioning of WHY the kid felt OK "confessing" this to them.. I had a male friend that at one point I nearly went out with. Thankfully it didn't work out. Later, like two years later I found out that he was having regular threesomes with his girlfriend and his cousin! First cousin she was in an open marriage. Deviant behavior happens more often than most of aware of bc no one speaks of it unless they're in their "tribe" of folks who are ok with it. Hence this kid just being out with it like it's that days weather is truly odd and scary. I really think you misunderstood what the sex educator meant..

[@Pjj3125]

@@Silvermoonscorpion No, he implied that incest was relatively common (it’s not), but then said the ‘primary issue’ wasn’t incest, it was thinking it was okay to share with the family. This ‘educator’ is saying incest is fine, just keep it to yourself.

[@joditorkelson8649]

@@Pjj3125no!! I think he meant threesomes were relatively common. Which, he’s probably right.

[@aoropeza85]

am i the only one that's thinking this stepson brought it up to see how young stepmommy reacted cause he's into her?

[@xxxxxxxxx1652]

😭😭😭😭😭😭

[@hansonallie]

💯 🎯- fishin’ fo sho!

[@KatieBellino]

Either into her or just ticked off about his dad's ridiculous relationship (and the fact that he hasn't been much of a father). I do think this had a lot to do with getting a reaction out of them.

[@sl33ptilldawn]

I thought the same. He was definitely testing to see if she'd be down.

[@cocopuff6810]

Yesss

[@jesshatchette]

I’m curious why a mother isn’t a good person to call but older friends are? I used to call my grandmother all the time when she was alive for advice, because she happened to be the wisest woman I knew on the subjects I was asking about. I feel like asking the best person would make more sense rather than immediately dismissing advice simply because it’s your mother. What am I missing?

[@ale347baker]

I think he was getting at that she's handling this in an immature way. I agree with you that I consider asking your parents for advice is good. However, he seems to pick up quick on the caller's core issues generally. I think that's why its an issue for him.

[@soccerislife6108]

Because usually you don’t want to get your mom or dad involved in your relationship issues. You might end up forgiving your partner for what they dis but your family or parents will hold it against them. Its a VERY wise thing to keep the separate. Ive seen these things happen many times with different couples.

[@kellharris2491]

I think it was the way she seemed to run to her Mother for help. It seemed like a teenager running to her Mom. Not an adult daughter asking her mother for wisdom and life lesson. Their is a difference. And you could see it in the way she said it. It was like Mom tell me what to do. She is emotionally a little staunted because she has been with a much older man making the big choices in her life since she was a teenager.

[@marteumar8429]

Really would you wanna call your to tell her your borderline pdo husband whose sons are your age partake in incestuous threesomes? That’s the convos you wanna have with your mom? 😂

[@jesshatchette]

@@marteumar8429 Yes. Yes, I would absolutely have this conversation with my mom. I'd have this same conversation with a friend, a therapist, or any other trusted person. If you can't trust your mom to have your best interest in mind and give you support, then doesn't that say something about your relationship with your mom? I think so. I have very transparent and close relationships with my kids. We talk about all kinds of subjects that some people would consider off the table. I'm grateful that they feel safe to talk about those topics with me. I will always support their best interests, mental and physical health.

[@wwilliams4743]

Dang, when did this show turn into Dr. Drew's loveline? 🤯 Bringing back 90s vibes for sure.

[@noahdouglas702]

He reacted worse to her calling her mom then two brothers fu(king

[@collegeclips333]

accurate

[@SupportTheArts-yo8ox]

wonder what that implies?...

[@leannemerry7480]

This though 😭😭😭🤣🤣

[@carriefawcett9990]

THAN

[@Happyplace1979]

Yeah that was a very strange response. OF COURSE she called her mom!!

[@jbdibello1604]

He's way off! Older women teach the younger women...it's the Biblical model. She didn't call her "mommy", she called her closest, dearest, trusted confidante.

[@lkctom2546]

Exactly. This was literally the only ok part of this situation except for the fact her mum didn't tell her to run away from this incest family

[@Dino-kr9cb]

Don't bring the bible into this story. It's complicated enough.

[@Cory182]

Incest is also a biblical model 🤣

[@lacrimashi]

true, but I believe the point is that she's an adult, whoever she calls/asks for advice - she should be able to ultimately make her own decisions, based on *her* values and views.

[@colettebenson9658]

“There’s a plot twist…I thought this was the movie” 😂😂😂 The stepson having sexual relations with his brother and SIL is weird af. Dad having a wife who is only a few years older than his sons is just as weird. She was barely out of hs and he had teenage kids (and presumably an ex-wife). There’s no way Dad is cutting off his sons. This whole family is a social experiment and probably needs to seek professional help.

[@libbylee9-997]

I'm the friend everyone comes to for advise. They never listen to me and do stupid degrading garbage that messes with their lives. I get my advice from my mom and dad and my parents have never steered me wrong. Friends are gonna do whatever they want. Older people tend to be more wise Doc.

[@JohnniferLeigh]

I swear this whole planet is going straight to hell. 🔥🔥🔥. The day you feel comfortable telling your father that you have committed incest, and your father doesn't proceed to beat the holy heck out of you.... We've strayed too far. 🤦🏽‍♀️

[@zaad5273]

Absolutely. It's a slippery slope of immorality. I knew it was only a matter of time too. Justifying sleeping with family members... one of the MOST repulsive things I've ever heard. God help us

[@JohnniferLeigh]

@@zaad5273 RIGHT! and the only reason he stopped is not because he felt that it was wrong, but because he didn't think the wife was "attractive" enough.... 🤦🏽‍♀️ And your brother was???? This has nothing to do with attraction and everything to do with deviancy.

[@zaad5273]

@@JohnniferLeigh Agreed 💯

[@NC-jl4tn]

You’re so right. Straight to hell. This is disgusting

[@tonyanderson8497]

Democrats said it’s ok 😭

[@michelemiletich7540]

the fact that he felt comfortable enough to tell his dad and step mom , shows his demented life personality ,and his brother and wife too.

[@GolfDuff]

She did a Facebook poll on it.... She IS acting like a child😂

[@xxxxxxxxx1652]

she is 26, got married when she was 21, what do you expect? lol

[@KatieBellino]

@@xxxxxxxxx1652 Exactly and met the much older husband on social media. She's not exactly the epitome of good judgement.

[@joditorkelson8649]

Absolutely!! Who does that???

[@SamanthaP48]

@@xxxxxxxxx1652- So did I and I would have still never done anything like this. -> by 20 I was already as mature as most 35-year-olds I meet.

[@luannkelly5071]

She needs to set some boundaries with everyone. This family is a total package. It will get worse. She needs to separate and get counseling.

[@halfdom]

what I find really strange is that they are in a public place getting their nails done, and the son pops out with that statement. that is really strange. Also, it makes me wonder what kind communication did the two sons have with their father growing up. if I were her, I would be very worried about the dynamics historically in that family and how it affects their lives today

[@Guitarlvr01]

There was no reason to share this with them. I’m having a hard time understanding why he thought they needed to know.

[@alittlepieceofearth]

Right?

[@LisaLisaCJ]

He wants to include the stepmom 😂

[@Guitarlvr01]

@Vicki H no, he didn’t have remorse and mentioned it very casually!

[@TATCHIE28]

Maybe he wants to have a ‘FithSome’🤷🏽‍♀️

[@brooklove90]

@@TATCHIE28 🤣

[@nicolevaughn643]

I didn't like how he made her feel bad or immature for calling her Mom seeking advice.

[@belindavandyke8363]

Me too! My daughter and I are super close, we work together, socialize together, talk all the time. She has every right to ask her moms advice. John got that one wrong!!

[@nicolevaughn643]

@@belindavandyke8363 Yes...I'm 31 and I'm never going to stop calling my Mom for advice!

[@LisaLisaCJ]

It’s because it is her husbands business she is disclosing to her mom. Not her issues but someone else’s and her husbands family personal issues. Not her moms business

[@nicolevaughn643]

@@LisaLisaCJ but if he is disclosing that information so non chalantly and didn't ask for secrecy, then she has every right because he is an adult. Either way, it's out there for everyone to know now.

[@brooklove90]

@@belindavandyke8363I don't know all the details of your life but from an observational perspective, that's actually an unhealthy amount of closeness and togetherness.

[@irhonda31]

A friend of mine told me of a saying, “The way you do one thing is the way you do everything.” It’s so true!

[@elonr1018]

He called their story a country song 🎶 😂😂😂😂 so true.

[@peaceful525]

Sounds more like a rap song to me.

[@squidward6187]

As a person diagnosed with "severe" PTSD - no. I would be extremely concerned, I would not dismiss that. As a rule, we're hypervigilant to lies, not numb to them as normies are.

[@PaolaRL]

Exactly!

[@AffectionateSeaOtter]

I can second that. I am suffering from CPTSD .... but regardless of whether it is simple or complex, a cardinal trait in PTSD sufferers is hypervigilance. Depressed people or those with dysthymia may feel 'numb' but not so when it comes to 'moral issues' . Something VERY wrong with the father.

[@hollyhodgson7253]

Mr Melony never disappoints with his blunt honesty 🙌

[@aswithinsowithout]

This “family” is a train wreck.

[@johnengelbrechtnyjets]

😂😂😂

[@SQUELCH-zj7il]

I suspect that the father may have abused the boys when they were younger. He already has a proclivity for young people and he has showed little bother to the sons activity. Something definitely ain't right here

[@Jblkal82]

I was thinking the same thing. Any normal father would flip out if his son told him that he was having sex with his brother and his wife.

[@gottesurteil3201]

Weird sex is often the result of an abusive upbringing.

[@Jasminina16]

The biggest thing I don’t like about this guy is he made her feel like a child for talking to her mom. I’m 27 years old and I will definitely call my mom. When you get older, your parents can become your best friend and offer wise advice. So, no don’t call make fun of her for calling her “mommy”.

[@44LillPuffin]

It is a bit weird that she was calling her mom because her son inlaw told her that he was having sex with his brother and sister and law. Like that's kinda not a conversation most people will have with their mom

[@vcamie8755]

42.... My mom and I call each other for everything. It's too bad not all children have mothers like ours or they would understand.

[@Bamifun]

It WAS childish…and the Facebook poll was ridiculously immature.

[@TheCinnamondemon]

I dont really get how asking your mother for advice is childish or how she's treating her husband as her dad..

[@lilkimmy34567]

Lol. That part got to me as well. As a grown woman who talks to her mother every other day, I would definitely have run to the phone to talk to her about this

[@nina4941]

Let this be a lesson to all you young people. Never date a creeper, I mean person, off FB. Or from anywhere on social media. Not safe!!

[@Hnnhjkjm]

I feel like you don’t understand a health mother-daughter relationship. It is absolutely not child like.

[@crazyham]

I agree. I think he was very wrong with his Judgement on her for reaching out to her Mum. I would confide in my Mum right through until she passed away. My Mum was also my best friend in a way.

[@jameswalker5645]

Her husband doesn't want to deal with this, she seems to be handling incest and adultery just fine..

[@mizzzlicia1832]

It's not adultery if they are all into it. It's incest if he's tapping the brother but if not it's just a threesome with dubious partners. That's probably the mental train going on for the dad

[@Nothanks935]

And the doc shamed her🤦🏻‍♀️🤦🏻‍♀️

[@deniseeugene1852]

The dad knows that sex was going On between the brothers ..

[@kekejefferson9219]

I hollered when she said, she had a FB poll!!! 😂😂🤣

[@Laura-rg5hc]

🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

[@KatieBellino]

I can't believe she did that. She aired a lot of dirty laundry on FB. Also met her much older husband that way...she's an immature social media addict.

[@nychris2258]

People under 30 are useless

[@sharonrice8255]

Gotta say her mom was was right to say she should distance herself from that step son.

[@collegeclips333]

YEZZZZ

[@sobeliever1638]

Just nasty. People are constantly finding ways to lower themselves into nothing.

[@michelleeaton9282]

Gutter sewage…

[@kw3113]

So a family without boundaries.

[@sassygorgeousqueen4060]

7:10 ripping the caller a new one for speaking in confidence with their mother. Terrible advice.

[@kkorova]

Completely agree! This woman is 26. Married at the tender age of 21, with a man that’s well over 15 years older than her. We can only assume that he has all the power in the relationship (remember, she “works” for him). What alternative does she have? Quit her job? She has no power in the relationship, she has no saying on the lives of her husband’s family. All she probably has is her mother to share her emotions with, and somehow that’s childish? No.

[@LauraLParr]

The first step of managing this situation is a shot of tequila 😭😭😂

[@belizegal29]

😹😹😹😹😹😹

[@andrewheffel3565]

Maybe the husband needs a slap in the face.

[@agirlinjeans77]

hahaha the best

[@donnakreye8339]

Oh yah….probably like 3.

[@mlokole254]

I'm thinking a bottle?

[@toastybaconbus5737]

Has she confirmed that the wife is not also their sister?

[@plynn136]

LOL.

[@Mylagomlife]

😂 that would be a crazy twist

[@amhomestead3437]

😂😂😂😂

[@seachelb7245]

i need to say this... there is absolutely nothing wrong with calling your mom 😂 I am 34 and I either call my mom or grandma. because they are my people. if i have noone else to bounce ideas off of or get advice from... those are the people o call besides my husband. always my husband first. and I learned to not talk to my family about our marital issues. learned the hard way 😅 but I still call and talk to them about personal stuff that I need help with. If you dont have that good of a relationship to where you can tell your mom stuff, I am so sorry for you.

[@cherylberk4593]

Run, Bridget, Run! This is generational and SICK!

[@TheMariemarie16]

There is absolutely nothing wrong with having a good relationship with your mom and being able to talk with her about difficult situations I find that to be very healthy as long as you are your own person and make up your own mind.

[@deppresedonion6320]

He was asking Pops for a go. Run woman run .

[@amberwarriorprincess4010]

There is nothing wrong with calling your mom for advice. That is ridiculous. That said, I think his comment about people pleasing is correct and you do need to have your own values and surround yourself with people who share your values.

[@mv7374]

Yep. Happy to hear that I wasn't the only one thinking this when I was listening to the podcast earlier and he seemed to be going in on her harder than needed there.

[@leslie3566]

agreed there is nothing wrong with calling your mom. Just because she is an adult that doesnt mean she cant call her mom for her 2 cents.

[@razmiddle9410]

I think Delony often gives advice based on his own poor relationship with his parents, considering that he's said that his parents don't have the right to speak into his life but some friends do, and that he has drawn firm boundaries with his family and chooses not to see them on most holidays and events. This varies based on whether he relates more as a parent or as a child of parents that he feels did him wrong -- if the former, he'll advise protection, if the latter then he'll give them hell for not having firm rules for the relationship that are guarded by the promise of removing their presence.

[@lithiumike]

If the parent is able to treat their childs marriage the same being in the loop or out of it then I think it's ok to go to a parent. Friends are one thing but parents that have a negative outlook on your marriage that don't hold their opinions in can be damaging for the marriage/relationship the rest of your life.

[@Ready-ForTheEnd]

I agree. I hate the notion of "you are an adult so you have to deal with everything alone". Some of us cant afford to pay someone to listen to our problems. Besides its nice to lean on someone who is older and wiser.

[@dddnegre]

Of course they told her with the hope she will want to partake!!! 😂😂😂

[@SarahR2D2]

I didn't even make it that far 🤣🤣🤣

[@arc3337]

🤐🤐🤐🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

[@mariahconklin4150]

Theirs actually horror movie where everyone body comes together and they have sex but they attatch it's so weird. It's called The Society I believe and it kind of reminds me of this...I feel like they are trying to get others to join. If anything you should really watch that movie it's so bizarre.I can't explain it but it reminds me of some creepy gang bang. Nasty.

[@ASouthernBoyCanSurvive]

absolutely 100% right. He was hoping she would join in

[@nailatiylluf]

My first thought is I doubt a guy who’s ok with borderline incest (we don’t know if he actually had sex with his brother) isn’t into the stepmom category as well. He moved in and she’s the same age like come on.

[@ilsevdg1194]

You ask your mom for recipies and for what not. And for support, of course. But you don't ask your mom whether you should be appalled by something that is obviously appalling. Not by that age anymore. Your moral maturity should be formed by then.

[@amberdeterman5815]

I don't have a mom i could talk to but i hope my daughters feel comfortable coming to me for advice. Im unclear why she shouldn't talk to her mom

[@rebeccabamford5505]

Is the son telling his “step mom”this because he’d like to try it with her?

[@firstname7470]

That's what I got out of this whole episode. He was testing her boundaries with her reaction. If she had said "cool." He would have taken that as open season.

[@Bamifun]

Pelrobably

[@karenholt8441]

If you have PTSD, EVERYTHING shocks you, not NOTHING!

[@miaaugustine4321]

Yes, she called her MOM. That's what woman do.