"HE'S A CON ARTIST!" J.J. Abrams Downsized by Warner Bros After Wasting Everyone's Time

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[@ziplockcreations2313]

J.J. Abrams isn't selling stories, he's selling mystery boxes. And what's in those mystery boxes? Shit, absolute shit.

[@BilisiFunfun]

"What's in the box?!" "It's a severed he- oh no, wait. it's a pile of Jar Jar shit."💩

[@ThatBillmanGuy]

I always think of Kuni in UHF "let's see what's in the box!" - "Nothing. Absolutely nothing!"

[@alltheflavors9673]

Yes, look at his co writer in Lost, Lindeloff and how he mistery box'd Prometheus. They are talentless hacks.

[@mosesdouglas4325]

That's an insult to shit 😆 but I agree

[@NickThiller]

He’s stories are like that whack-a-mole game. Look over hear, no over here, now over here, psychic over here etc…

[@AshCosgrove]

This man provided us with the genius line, "Somehow Palpatine returned." That alone should make it so that JJ can never work in Hollywood again.

[@seanalmond7507]

Corpo's don't understand memes are both beloved, communication and often mockery. They just see people talking about it or quoting and assume it's good. They aren't rebellious Rockstar, not all press is good press

[@anafael1]

Every now and again, that line pops into my head. And I laugh. Then I cry.

[@YouTubePurgetheblackplague]

Everything he makes matches with tv series lost

[@gilabides]

But…he’s the next Spielberg! Remember Super8, the ode to ET and The Goonies? Neither does anyone else. Pretty sure his Lost meetings consisted of “what if they are attacked by a polar bear?” “Uh…how does that work” *has no fucking clue* “…it’s a mystery…in a box”.

[@catothecensor]

Do not forget the infamous revelation “my name is Khan” in a timeline where Kirk never known of him… such a cheap “genius”

[@SAHD-Dad]

Idk where he even got his credibility from..... seems like an industry plant. They slap his name on stuff like he's a world renowned writer, yet everything he does turns to $#!+. He never even finished the show "Lost". He's the guy in group projects that gets an A when he did none of the work.

[@compostsmurf5519]

Spielberg gave him the push, that's all you need when you are connected.

[@docsavage8640]

@compostsmurf5519 just like Gwyneth Paltrow and Rachel Zegler

[@gezenews]

@@compostsmurf5519 While Spielberg seems to be the only guy that can successfully produce a decent film based exclusively on fundamentals, he also seems to have promoted a bunch of idiots.

[@stromaufwaerts-b7w]

He was a clever TV Producer (Lost, Fringe, Alias) and can direct action scenes and is a marketing genius, but has zero talent for storytelling, talking to fans, understanding IPs or choosing good writers. All he does is buisness.

[@theelder4797]

Oy vey, are you tryin to say 🧃 runs things?!?!?

[@karannegi7199]

When Tarantino calls this the "worst era of movies ever"; this is the kind of shit he's referring to.

[@JRRob3wn]

That’s vastly understating the situation. I used to see nearly every movie that came out, now I watch maybe 2 or 3 new movies a year. HW directors can’t even film a shot of a man crossing the street without using CGI. It’s like watching a football game where all the players are 60 something retired NFL guys, but not only are they old and fat, they’ve completely forgotten the rules of the game.

[@Catherine.Dorian.]

@@JRRob3wnsame here. Sundays used to be a day at the movies but I haven’t gone in years now. I just wait for it to come to cable cause none of it truly excites me enough to bother

[@TheSuperQuail]

@@JRRob3wn How is saying this is the "worst" understating anything? You know what the word means, right?

[@JRRob3wn]

@@TheSuperQuail Because the word “worst” doesn’t fully capture just how awful and incompetent these movies are. The English language is rich and varied for a reason.

[@chaosgyro]

I hope he's throwing his own trash movies in that list.

[@thatguyfromcetialphaV]

Well done JJ. You finally united Star Trek and Star Wars fans in their hatred of you. He is a worthless writer and creative... I use the term loosely. As a director, he gets hystrionic performances from his actors and seems to encourage big emotional outbursts which are jarring and unearned. I simply hate him, Kurtzman, RTD, Barbara Broccoli, Kennedy and the rest of these talentless hack frauds who have buried our collective childhood favourites. F(_)ck 'em and the horses they rode on on.

[@mikeliribaregana3703]

LotR fans too. He sent a couple of his underling clowns to run Ring of Power.

[@lellyt2372]

It took someone this epically shit to unite us. Solidarity through a universal enemy. From one Trekie to all the true Star Wars fans

[@thatguyfromcetialphaV]

I can't decide which is the crappier film. Into Darkness was a failed ripoff of the best Trek movie of them all and Rise of Skywalker took the piss out if the very concept of movie making.

[@danielr5552]

Hard to say what he screwed over worst. If forced I’d say Star Wars is worse off because there seems no where to go after 7,8 and 9. However at least Star Trek is another continuity. Star Trek can be fixed. Doubt it will be but it’s possible.

[@lellyt2372]

@danielr5552 I agree completely. What he did to Star Wars was horrible and long lasting. He really seemed to have it out for SW

[@carig121]

The guy is a dead end, just like his mystery boxes scams, probably the biggest fraud of this industry.

[@jaymorrison8419]

shyamalayan would like a word

[@vladpiranha]

He saved the Mission: Impossible series, but that's about it.

[@JRRob3wn]

@@vladpiranhaMI3 was awful.

[@tayyabjr7187]

@@JRRob3wn Hoffman's performance was pretty great tho

[@JRRob3wn]

@@tayyabjr7187 Yeah, Hoffman was good in everything he did. His small part in the Talented Mr Ripley is one of my favorites. It’s the perfect depiction of wealthy East Coast WASP trust fund babies.

[@Zenmaster_0-0_]

"Enough white comfort. Enough outsized privilege." - J. J. Abrams.

[@bigtechisbigbrother8690]

Yet he's the biggest beneficiary of bagel-eater privilege.

[@RocafellaPlaza]

We need a Black Superman film

[@dylankrepps2169]

He's talking about himself does not know what the rest of the world is like. I'm white and I have little to no privilege, JJ...

[@dangermartin69]

He's not white. White people don't get automatic citizenship with Israel.

[@UHCYoutube]

"That one didn't age quite so well" - JonTron

[@trashcanhands19]

"Bad Robot" was an apt description.

[@alejandroangel998]

Or like Gary likes to call it “Bad reboot”

[@darthgorbag]

@CoruscationsOfIneptitude you sound like one yourself

[@homelessjesse9453]

More like Bad Re-boot.

[@randywest4185]

A luxury???? I thought they categorize themselves as “essential” a few years ago when it was convenient for them

[@inkermoy]

Yes! I remember a story of a woman having to close her restaurant down even though she had outdoor seating, only to have some Hollywood production team set up a catering service for a shoot in the very same parking lot. Fook all the Branch Covidians! Still waiting for a fookin' apology!

[@johns9969]

Watches Lost with my dad. Middle of season 2, he stands up, says the show is about nothing,waste of time. He's right.

[@James_Bee]

Yep. Especially when you realize they were always dead. Don't believe the simps coping and saying they didn't actually die until the final season. No, they were dead at episode 1 and when you realize the writers intended it to be that way, but the show took off and had to somehow keep the story going... Yeah.

[@docsavage8640]

Great argument in favor the British model where they write an entire series with a fixed number of episodes and then call it a day until they have another good idea for a story.

[@thehoerscorral8565]

@@docsavage8640 Yes, a ton of shows like Luther with short 1-4 episode 'seasons' but they are fully contained narrative stories on their own, able to be watched and not feel like you're missing out on POSSIBLE future content. Just leave it as it stands, and if you come up with a plausible and coherent continuation then go for it, but don't just 'plan three more seasons due to season 1's popularity'.

[@Kalbuir66]

@@James_Bee How did you not know they were dead from the start???? It seemed pretty obvious to me. The show did get really bad though after the first couple of seasons.

[@mistymusic7220]

I said that at the end of the first episode.

[@Hollyclown]

There’s something crazy about a multi-millionaire talking about wanting to take a race of people’s comfort away.

[@theelder4797]

Especially when it's a 🧃 saying those things, considering what they've beat the world over the head with for almost a century. Oy vey!

[@lordkrauser]

Even crazier when said multi-millionaire is part of a certain group.

[@TheWarmachine375]

​@@lordkrauser Sieg Zio-er I mean Sieg Zeon!

[@donspafford414]

While still also being a part of said race, mind you…

[@dangermartin69]

No, he isn't.

[@GimmeEd]

Gary, you gotta stop holding back and tell us how you really feel. 🤣🤣🤣

[@IRedpunk]

KZbin doesn't really allow it with demonetizin creators

[@danielduncan6806]

'The Force Awakens' began with a ship, that has a bow that looks curiously like a middle finger, flying across the screen. They gave everyone the middle finger right from the very first frame of the movie.

[@ThatBillmanGuy]

Are things "made right" yet?

[@danielduncan6806]

@@ThatBillmanGuy I don't give second chances to people who tell me to F off.

[@lorentaylor9189]

He didn't get the nickname "ruiner of franchises" for nothing.

[@All2Meme]

I think the term is "Franchise Killer". He makes Joel Schumacher look like a rank amateur by comparison.

[@StreetPreacherr]

And how di that SPIDER-MAN comic that he somehow was allowed to 'CO-WRITE' end up performing? Did it ever even get released? Why would a company agree to hire some mediocre Movie Director's KID to write a NEW SPIDER-MAN BOOK?!?

[@maxmazzotti6651]

@@StreetPreacherr Its not even in the main universe so its not canon

[@Attmay]

@@All2MemeGeorge Clooney deserves all the blame for that. His career never should have survived it.

[@jessejames8900]

Jar Jar

[@kelpie1533]

I've known JJ was a fraud since Super 8. All the critics were telling me he was the 2nd coming of Spielberg and all I saw was the smoke and mirrors of mystery box story telling.

[@Attmay]

Nobody ever got canceled for criticizing *1941.*

[@Trollificusv2]

I dunno, sure it was cheap tricks and sentimentality all the way down...but it still worked. I haven't seen anything remotely decent from him since, so I guess even a blind pig finds a truffle* once in a while. *-if that's how that goes.

[@ranoutofgoodusernames8394]

I remember getting called racist for saying turning Barbara, Jim and Arnold Flass black was unnecessary.

[@theelder4797]

Oh, you'll still get called that, though it's now the same as calling you "A meanie head that I disagree with, but can provide no argument as to why you are such things."

[@realplonk]

hahaha lefties will call anybody racist for any reason

[@RocafellaPlaza]

BIGOT

[@ranoutofgoodusernames8394]

@@RocafellaPlazai'm sorry. I will try to do better, to change my hateful beliefs and support minorities... Or whatever.. LMAO

[@stevendouglas3781]

Funny how rce doesn’t matter when you want to change a W character, but it really does when you don’t.

[@brianmcguinness9642]

After seeing Star Trek (2009) I have never gone to another Star Trek movie or any other Jar Jar Abrams films. If the management of entertainment companies had any brains whatsoever, Jar Jar Abrams, Alex Kurtzman, and Kathleen Kennedy would be out of work.

[@robertharper6481]

'Wrath of Khan', was a high point in sci-fi cinema, the story, acting and it's reverence to for material was extraordinary in everyday, the momment Bones presents Kirk with a pair of glasses was a checs kiss. Now look at how JarJar repurpoused that masterpiece...Never forget, never forgive.

[@brianmcguinness9642]

@@robertharper6481 The scene with Kirk and Spock near the end was a masterpiece.

[@robertharper6481]

@brianmcguinness9642 I'm not crying, you're crying.

[@lexofdust]

I like the new Star Trek movies besides beyond

[@axelhopfinger533]

Unfortunately, Hollywood doesnt run on merit or talent, but on incestuous nepotism and personal connections based on shared identity. Also blackmail.

[@rogueyun9613]

This is nuts. Michael Curtiz directed Casablanca under WAY harsher conditions and moral turmoil than Abrams ever had to deal with. He keeps being handed award winning series on silver platters and dumping on them like a sidewalk in San Fran.

[@jaymorrison8419]

countdown to jar jar getting a terminator sequel

[@reidmason2551]

Michael Curtiz actually had talent. Abrams and Gunn don't. That's the difference.

[@stage6fan475]

@@reidmason2551 Michael Curtiz was awesome. Look at his list of movies, OMG!

[@MisterEae]

Well said.

[@little_dandelion]

JJ organizes special parties that Diddy can be jealous of. His wife founded M*Too as an arm for their Ayp-Stain like operations. Of course JJ has been showered with contracts and awards. His mentor Spielberg taught him well how business is done in Predowood.

[@plainbagel9192]

Will never forgive him for what he did to Star Trek

[@MAGAMAN]

That was some of his better work. lol

[@pmacgilli]

How about when he started trying to market his own "Cloverfield" brand even when it was blatantly obvious those movies had nothing to do with each other?

[@plainbagel9192]

@MAGAMAN IMO , Beyond was the best of the 3 , but he neither wrote or directed, his involvement was limited to producing ...not sure I can make a correlation but it's damn close that he is the problem

[@ThatBillmanGuy]

​@@pmacgilliThe Cloverfield ARG is to blame for a lot of how shitty online discourse is now. Those slusho obsessed freaks inundated message boards and forums with their garbage, and JJ used them as another way to market the film by having them go online everywhere. And now the once peaceful and cordial trek and star wars Fandoms are constantly stuck calling each other racist and misogynistic all the fucking time. It was not like that in either one of them untill JJ got involved with their franchises...hmmm. Kind of convenient. I have no evidence, of course, just memories of that fucking Cloverfield ARG thing being brought up everywhere online at the time, and how shitty talking to anyone became.

[@rubix4195]

He messed it up but what Kurtzman (one of his protegee) did to the Star Trek Universe is cultural vandalism.

[@JB-bj3fl]

Who else has stolen this much money with no mask?

[@compostsmurf5519]

The government? Big pharma, Wall Street etc ?

[@cameronjames3499]

@@compostsmurf5519 Correction, big pharma used masks to do it : D

[@docsavage8640]

Labor unions?

[@docsavage8640]

BLM?

[@problematicspaghettios]

Guberment, by a country MILE

[@realplonk]

I dislike JJ Abrams ever since he ruined the 2nd season of alias which made no sense and ruined what was an incredible first season of FREE television

[@calvinjohnstone2664]

I kept with it as Jen carried it well. Wasn't the end of that series when she called in after waking up though? But then the mother, and sister and blah blah blah 🙄

[@docsavage8640]

People are just now realizing he's a big nothing? Have they not seen his shitty TV and movie work?

[@NoidoDev]

Well, Alias was really good, Fringe was great, Lost was good.

[@VonJay]

people actually loved TFA. That was one of the most depressing films and attempts at artistry i’ve ever seen. He basically told audiences that he doesn’t have to write or make things logical, all he has to do is copy and paste things from the other movies. I was saying it then and people couldn’t see how much of a bad precedent that set for star wars at disney. No artist in the history of man, since artists have an impulse to create, would be “intentionally derivative” like JJ described it.

[@kernowpolski]

Jar Jar ruined the two largest Sci Fi franchises - amazing how studios pay him and his acolytes to lose them money!

[@MephiticMiasma]

as I recall, his acolytes produced Rings of Power

[@mkocel]

Mystery box = lazy writing with no intent to finish it.

[@saulschimek7680]

So. The George R.R. Martin Approach

[@Attmay]

@@saulschimek7680JJ can't hide behind failure to stick to his diet to excuse his failures to produce artistically satisfactory content.

[@Tomonaroma1221]

Time to take J.J. Abrams comfort away and give his position to a black person.

[@bigtechisbigbrother8690]

Holding him to his own principles and taking away his own privilege would be anti-semitic.

[@ngamashaka4894]

Me too

[@RocafellaPlaza]

Too many YT's in Warner Brothers

[@bobmahnamahknob]

Too many blacks committing redrum

[@Attmay]

@@RocafellaPlazaand Barfbie is yt supremacist propaganda by that same measure.

[@j.dmetalhead7517]

I hated J.J's Trek and won't even attempt to watch his other dross. $500 million? for WHAT!?

[@theelder4797]

Indeed, for what? Oy vey, it's a mystery!

[@Nartanek]

For what? For his bank account obviously!

[@markcarpenter6020]

I agreed with a friend of mine that the first Abrams Trek movie was a good (except for the lens flairs) movie. But it was in no shape form or fashion Star Trek and even my friend agreed and said it felt more like Star Wars which is why he liked it (my friend never liked Trek)

[@jasonkiefer1894]

@@markcarpenter6020 Because that is exactly what JJ did. He wanted his Trek to be like Star Wars: fun, adventurous, exciting. He didn't care/respect the intellectual, cerebral, philosophical style that Star Trek is. I love both franchises, for what they are. I am not the type to compare and want the same shyte. the 'Kelvin-verse' is Star Wars wearing a Trek skin suit.

[@markcarpenter6020]

@jasonkiefer1894 pretty much. I like Trek and wars myself. But they should each keep to their own lane. Space battles in trek(at their best) were like submarine warfare. Each ship playing cat and mouse with each other full of tension and suspense.

[@rickbase833]

But......but......Mystery Box!

[@jaymorrison8419]

so basically the mystery briefcase in pulp fiction what a novel idea

[@rickbase833]

@jaymorrison8419 That and the 3 sea shells from Demolition Man.

[@GrandTheftWatto]

JJ was a good match for broadcast TV back in 2004 because the DESIGN then was to ask questions and set things up...and then NEVER let the characters change or grow or pay off on anything. String viewers along as long as possible and then cancel when it ran out of steam. Match made in heaven!

[@stage6fan475]

There was some screwy economics going on where producers wanted a package of 7 years of episodes to sell to cable TV. So water it down and recycle ideas until you get to 7 years of episodes. When I heard about this, I basically quit watching episode TV and went looking for other things, finding Anime while I was at it.

[@tjjordan4207]

The whole "Mystery Box" only works if the creator of the story knows what's already inside and how everything connects to it. And even then, you can't have everything be a mystery. It's like that need to make things more complex to intrigue the audience when a straight forward story can be more than enough, it's the characters and themes that need to be built upon.

[@Attmay]

It's a literal shell game to disguise bad storytelling.

[@rubix4195]

@@Attmay Nah, a shell game has to come to an end sometime. This is like telling everyone to play a game and hope they keep paying to play when they realize the game is being made up on the spot.

[@franglais-riders]

Yes Lost was a good case study. More and more mysteries. After the end of the 1st season it was obvious the writers had no idea of the end and would string it as long as possible. I had now followed any series since. Stopped going to the cinema years ago. Star war and Rey killed it to me. Found other entertainments. Books, (old) video games, hobbies, real life.

[@VonJay]

Not being an a-hole because i’m agreeing with you but “the mystery box only works…” is an oxymoron. The mystery box only works when you don’t complete the character’s journey before you start writing the script. So in essence, the story can only work if there is no mystery box. Since before aristotle and the like, the “mystery” is the “false belief” of the character or the “lie the character believes.” In GOT for instance, Jon’s false belief is that he’s a bastard. Dany’s false belief is that she’s the heir. Both of these false beliefs are tied to the throne, or to the central theme where everyone’s playing a game to get the throne. Vital information about the lie is that Jon is the heir and Dany is not. What the characters do with that information can either lead to a negative or positive arc. In the case of GOT, it leads to a negative arc for both characters. But everything the characters do is based on their “emotionally wounds” which directly inform their “false beliefs.” If their behavior doesn’t change when they learn the truth, then they’d have a negative arc. JJ MAY give his characters false beliefs. If he does, they don’t act in a way that reflects those beliefs. For instance, Rey’s emotional wound is that she’s an orphan, the lie that she tells herself is that her parents will return, but then she leaves the planet anyway, and in the first twenty minutes of the film. The mystery box is essentially not giving the character a false belief, and essentially not giving them a character arc or a believable one where you can logically understand their decisions as soon as they make them. So it’s not just the mystery that’s frustrating, it’s not just the intentionality behind not creating substance, it’s also the effect it has on the entire story and how a character’s arc is supposed to align with the central theme of the story.

[@tjjordan4207]

@@VonJay I'm in agreement with you. There has to be a false belief in order for a mystery to work. And speaking of GOT, another example is the reason why the mystery behind Jon Snow's mother works is because of the lie we bought immediately, that being Ned is his father. In fact, the mystery we never knew we needed to ask was "who are Jon Snow's parents". That's why I was always against the identity of Jon's mother being Ashara Dayne. If you don't know who that is, the books go into slightly greater detail about her, despite being dead long before the events of the books. She was a beautiful woman that Ned or Brandon (Ned's older brother) may have been in love with. The fan theory is that Ned and Ashara conceived Jon before her death. The reason I never bought into the theory is because the novels straight up paint her as the prime suspect, with Catelyn even confronting Ned about the possibility. For one, if it was her, it would be massively disappointing and doesn't answer why Ned was secretive. Also, there's no lie or false belief behind it, like you just said.

[@drcaputi]

Good Riddance. You know how you get out from crushing debt, WB and Paramount? Make movies people WANT to see.

[@bcdside]

JJ’s father was a television producer in the 70s. That’s why JJ failed up; thanks, nepotism!

[@Linda-qp9kp]

That explains everything.

[@WEKM]

He hasn't finished ANYTHING satisfactorily ever.

[@NoidoDev]

The ending of Fringe was great.

[@MephiticMiasma]

that's what she said

[@denkerbosu3551]

Nerdrotic never letting go of the "enough -my fellow- whyt comfort" line is one of my favorite aspects to him. He knows how-to hold onto a grudge to a slimy snake like Jar Jar.

[@BumfluffAddlepate]

Nobody should be letting go of that shit, especially when it was spewed by Fellow White People.

[@Bonesawisready926]

He ain't the only one. These people villainized their own audience for damn near a decade, and have done nothing to earn forgiveness.

[@AverageJoe87]

He's an angry individual, not surprising that he'd hold a grudge.

[@naamadossantossilva4736]

That is a good example to follow.Never forgive,never forget.

[@Attmay]

@@Bonesawisready926Leviticus 24:19-21 for oppressor class propaganda against Jews. *Jud Suß* alone justifies more than this.

[@LordBaktor]

Turns out the mystery box was full of buffalo poo.

[@Bryan-Priime]

Him and Joss Whedon need to never make a movie ever again…

[@ParkerCS2]

Agreed

[@docsavage8640]

Or TV

[@MysteryBounty]

Hey Joss Whedon atleast made good shit 😂, Avengers was amazing, Age of Ultron is underrated and Buffy is an All time classic! All anyone can say about JJ is "Well the beginning of that thing was good" and that applies to all of his work

[@zazzrazzamatazz9970]

Firefly

[@Elthenar]

Whedon only ever made one truly crap product and that was Justice League. With that, at least it was because he tried to takeover a project being made by someone with as different a style to his own as possible. The problem with Whedon is him as person, not his ability

[@ParkerCS2]

I want a parody movie renaissance where all the bastardizations of IPS are poked fun of. I want the Wayan Brothers for example to make SpaceBalls 2 and not woke ret*rd Josh Gad. I want the Wayans to make a movie titled Snow White Chick. A movie titled Not Another Woke Movie. Give us the best real comedies since Tropic Thunder.

[@Bonesawisready926]

Don't be a Menace and the first two Scary Movies are parody classics.

[@ParkerCS2]

@ yep 💯

[@rexsceleratorum1632]

I have high hopes for Daily Wire to do "Not Another Woke Movie". Never thought I'd find it easier to ignore my differences with the conservatives than with the so-called progressives.

[@rexsceleratorum1632]

Did you watch "La dyBa llers"?

[@Attmay]

One of the Wayanses buckbroke their children. Try again.

[@keyser021]

Never ever ever ever forget how bad "Lost" was! Six Seasons to then just throw up your hands and say, "ehhh, there never really was going to be an ending, or a thru-line, or anything tied up or connective tissue. We just wanted to party in Hawaii and have fun". Anyone who hasn't popped their cherry yet - THEY'RE IN PURGATORY!!!! Oh wow!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[@vincenzobonadonna4556]

Regardless, I have a good time with Lost. Maybe it's a nostalgia thing. And tbh, he never was a big part of the show running of the show, it was more Damon Lindleoff.

[@blatherama]

A friend of mine gave up on the show after Michelle Rodriguez and Cynthia Watros were fired. That's when he reached the conclusion there was no plan behind the show. I didn't reach that conclusion until later, but at that point I was fast-forwarding through the non-island back story sections.

[@donspafford414]

Thanks, I keep seeing it on Netflix and I figured that was the stupid premise without watching a single episode, now I know to not bother to watch the rest. The Flight of the Langoliers is a better story/miniseries.

[@jeffleach2668]

Lost is the show I always bring up to explain why I’m so hesitant to watch a series until it’s completed. Still waiting to find out what the deal was with the smoke monster.😔.

[@HarryOBrienMusic]

People who don’t understand the ending of Lost always make me laugh 😂😂😂

[@DarthBalsamic]

The reality is that a vast number of directors, producers, and even script writers and casting directors should be downgraded or fired altogether. The industry appears packed with untalented, unserious people failing upward.

[@Attmay]

Then what did I do wrong if I couldn't even get my foot in the door?

[@Fred-gu6pk]

​@@Attmay Wrong kind of privilege?

[@JACCO20082012]

​@Fred-gu6pk this is sadly probably the correct answer.

[@reidmason2551]

Keep in mind, Abrams is the same guy who wrote a Superman script in 2002 where Krypton never exploded, Lex Luthor was a Kryptonian spy pretending to be human, the Supersuit was a living thing in a can, Jimmy Olsen was gay, everyone knew kung fu, and Superman was a Neo ripoff complete with fake-out death scene. And WB bought off many fan sites to shill for Abrams' script in the wake of the much-deserved backlash and wasted two years trying to force the film into being. This guy has never been good for established franchises.

[@johncameron4194]

He screwed up Alias as well.

[@TheQuickSilver101]

I can only guess that JJ had better support in the past and now has none of that and has just gone off the rails. He now embodies everything bad about Hollywood

[@farharbor3178]

His gimmick has been exposed one too many times at colossal scale. He pantomimes and imitates what a compelling story would do … he’s like a child who’s very good at pretending to play surgery. He know you wave around instruments and cut things and put stitches here or there- and from a distance it seems like something real is happening…. But theres nothing coherent actually happening. He’s made a career of leaving others to “close” for him (letting them eat the disastrous malpractice) …. This worked with TV or collaborative projects … but the more control and more work he does in films the more people can see that he has no idea what he’s actually doing.

[@moralobjection4836]

Look man. Some of us never got over what happened with Lost. I can forgive, but I can't forget. When I can't forget, it also means I hold some bias from that point on.

[@malshepard749]

Ppl talk shit about TLJ but forget that jj abrams made a starwars film with no end, not just for the series but for the film. He gleefully talks about stream of conciousness theft of tropes to make it just to "start something" this is blackrock, destroying culture, to bring what they created in china, to the world

[@apoch003]

People make fun of tlj because it's terrible. If you pay me 20 million to make a movie and I'm a professional, it'll be a masterpiece.

[@0That_Guy0]

China’s history and current state is far more related to the policies of the CCP, and their state owned companies. I doubt Blackrock can take much credit there. Blackrock really took off after the financial crisis in 2008, if I recall correctly.

[@inkermoy]

As much as I hate Jar Jar Abrams, is he really solely to blame? I mean, wasn't there a whole effing Writer's Room (of women) that was supposed to be planning out all the Star Wars shite? Where the fook were they? They know they're making a trilogy, but apparently they can't connect one film to another. Absolutely mind-boggling the ineptitude of Hollywood.

[@martindixon54]

@@inkermoy If I had to guess I'd say that the writers were doing the same "working day" as those 'women in tech' influencers who post videos of themselves spending all day snacking and not actually doing any work whilst still taking home a six figure salary. Don't forget that there were reports floating around that at least one of the movies (TLJ) started production with nothing more than a first draft of a script and they basically spent the entire production making shit up as they went along.

[@sultanofswing7198]

@@0That_Guy0the ccp would be nothing if we didn’t open up China to free trade. Kissinger is an evil man for the power he gave China.

[@ericillsley2406]

I'd rather watch an M Night Shyamalan movie than something by JJ Abrams. At least he doesn't destroy existing franchises.

[@malevolent7650]

Why does everyone hate Shyamalan movies? I don't know much about the guy, I've seen some of his movies and thought some were pretty good, some were okay, but at least they were unique. Seems like he's got some creativity and makes new things, unlike the constant sequel, prequel, reboot bullshit.

[@docsavage8640]

True, and there's also a chance it could be good.

[@salmanedy]

The Last Airbender would like to have a word with you.

[@jaymorrison8419]

geez, that's a tough call. shyamalayan really coasted off his first movie some of his movies don't even have good effects to ogle

[@inkermoy]

Unbreakable is by far one of the best realistic superhero origin stories out there. But yeah, Shyamalan is known as the "Tweeest!" guy so he been trapped in a niche of his own success with The Sixth Sense.

[@_SimpleJack_]

Super 8 was the only movie I liked with his name on it and that was just nostalgia bait and a shameless Spielberg clone.

[@tsnamm]

I liked Cloverfield, even though the POV jiggling camera film was jarring. Not a bad Kaiju flick.

[@Attmay]

This is what you get when you watch Steven Spielberg movies without watching the movies Steven Spielberg watched.

[@MJeeEm-fg8md]

That they gave this man both Star Wars and Star Trek is crazy. I despised The Last Jedi for its intentions, but The Rise of Skywalker was almost more insulting to me. It was like watching an unfinished movie, made by people who thought moviegoers would swallow any old garbage.

[@WBWLM]

That era is called “The Dark Ages of Media.”

[@darthzero4623]

Hollywood is slowly becoming a Drive-in Theater.. ya gotta love the irony of karma lol.. smh

[@edwardgreenjr167]

These franchises could have brought in BILLIONS from the merchandising alone. So many peripheral companies bankrupted, countless people lost their jobs and/or lively-hoods. Hope it was worth it. The fans will still be blamed years later.

[@Dimythios]

He was always a con-man. It's just people were canceled voicing their opinions.

[@danieldinucci1111]

So Brando was right.

[@zigmarsz.7540]

FRINGE is the biggest disapointment of my TV life. Great first season, first 10 episodes. S02 was already garbage. They forgot all the good stuff they did in S01. Never forgive.

[@hallmike6558]

Whatever. Iove fringe. And lost...

[@DomH75]

Fringe wobbled at the start of the second season with the show's move to Canada, but it rallied and improved drastically by the end of that year.

[@Mlonelysheep5555]

Always the same pattern with JJ productions. Great “hook”, probably the best in the business… then not a single thought regarding how to progress and complete a story. That is why he is a hack. If you had a good story and JUST brought JJ in to help make and exciting pilot - that should have been his whole career.

[@Linda-qp9kp]

I started watching Fringe from the beginning then realized pretty quickly it was just Discount X Files.

[@NoidoDev]

​@@Linda-qp9kp It's not really like X-Files, and certainly not a discount version. It has more action, more special effects and it's funnier. Also a way better ending.

[@AntiDecepticonCampaign]

He’s a total hack! None of his work lasts nor does it ever have an ending let alone a proper one.

[@TheInternetHelpdeskPlays]

It's almost as if people were fed up with his mystery boxes

[@gcaplan1]

JJ restored Spielberg’s home movies as a kid . Spielberg is reason we have JJ

[@JLP627]

The problem with Abrams is he can start something good but always messes up the landing.

[@farharbor3178]

That’s an illusion though. He’s aping the way in which something good would start …. But it’s empty. Good things unveil elements and plot points in dramatically interesting ways… Abrams does the inverse. He dramatically “unveils” disconnected nonsense bc there is no story or plot underwriting. Your brain anticipates pleasure and value of “things coming together” and the opposite happens and he’s made a career of skipping out, leaving others to hold the bag when the sham falls apart. As he works more in cinema it’s become much more difficult to obfuscate his ineptitude for storytelling. What I mean is good writers begin with what would be inside a mystery box (or at least a working idea of it) then they judiciously reveal things to enrich the telling of their story… Abrams can only pantomime storytelling bc there is never an actual story taking place

[@rydz656]

I'll never not like the first 2 clover movies.

[@drcaputi]

@@farharbor3178 I always think of Spock in Star Trek IV when discussing how to stop the Whale Probe saying "We could imitate the sounds, no the language. We would be speaking in gibberish." That's JJ Abrams in a nutshell With both Star Trek and Star Wars.

[@johnpaulporrelli6208]

I’d say it’s less than that. The concepts are good but never get better after concept

[@BigRedSpot]

They were calling him another Spielberg without doing anything Spielberg pulled off. It was obvious he had been tapped to join the club and audiences were just supposed to consume product.

[@Linda-qp9kp]

Exactly. Spielberg is a genius. He actually has talent and obviously loves movies and making them. JarJar is a complete hack and has done nothing good and seems to actually hate everything about movies and entertainment.

[@Dr._GroovyDude]

Crazy how WB almost went lower than Gunn. Like hiring Gunn is simply just making the same mistakes made with Snyder (just with poop jokes and bad 80s songs instead of gray cinematography and Hanz Zimmer), but if they made JJ the man in charge, then absolutely WB would've likely gone bankrupt.

[@Yousuckdeeznuts]

I mean for me I can’t stand Gunns stuff, Never been a JJ fan, other than super 8 I’m a casual Snyder fan, I like some of his stuff and dislike some stuff of him. WB really fumbled the bag with letting Nolan go. LOL

[@TheSolidSnakeOil]

All that money and all Warner Bros got out of it, after years, was a documentary. And Fringe severely suffered at the hands of the Mystery Box. That and I grew to genuinely detest Olivia by the final season.

[@Drewgantka_97]

Never understood the praise for J.J. Abrams.

[@AntiDecepticonCampaign]

Same here

[@Taikutsuna1]

ABRAMS was never good at closing as a storyteller. He’s great at stringing people along with plausible cliffhangers, but then they’re never completed, he just moves on to another cliffhanger.

[@James_Bee]

I grew up with TAS. I refuse to watch that abomination. It is NOT TAS. DC animation DIED with The Killing Joke and it wasn't funny.

[@weismeister121]

Same here. It literally taught me English as a non-native speaker since it was subbed at the time on Cartoon Network.

[@lxs077]

I was so excited for the killing joke. Called my friend over to watch it and ended up falling asleep with my eyes open. Lol 20 mins in I had to take the disc out to make sure I got the right movie.

[@JL-zw3tj]

Only watched the full thing once, after I just skip to the actual story of The Killing Joke.

[@karimdavis7065]

DC animation is still thriving. DC animation is still the king of comic book adaptations

[@xXHashassinXx]

I'm confused. What do tool assisted speedruns have to do with jj Abrams?

[@TerryKashat]

The best movies and stories are made when actors and directors are paid less. Mainly less upfront.

[@TerryKashat]

Martin Scorcessee. Own films. Ride or die. George Lucas. Own films. Ride or die. James Cameron - ride or die. Early career actors. Ride or die. Paying an actor or director too much upfront is a death sentence.

[@docsavage8640]

Having constrictions = creativity (assuming you actually have talent) Little money = hungry to prove oneself True facts

[@karannegi7199]

All depends on the character of the director and actors. Some take pride in their work /professionalism and give 100℅ to everything. Regardless of the size of the movie or how much they're getting paid

[@Xidification]

Dick Wolf, that man is a unknown legend in my household. He really makes comfort TV. My 80yo mom, flipping channels, can't pass a Chicago show or a Law and Order SVU marathon without watching it. To her Dick Wolf is just some name flashed on the screan at the end of a show (no idea who he is) but she (without knowing it) religiously watches Every franchise he has created. And I'm sure she's not alone.

[@windsoboreas6073]

The epitome of boomer TV. Man has a niche and stays in it. Have to respect that.

[@Bellthorian]

He is that guy who got lucky once and has just tried copying his original success ad nauseum trying to replicate it with no success.

[@elijahrobertscinema6351]

Ticket sales are down 40% doesnt surprise me one bit. My wife and I will gladly pay money to go see a movie once a month but theres simply no good movies to see this past year.

[@ConductiveIRL]

Holy crap. The thumbnails are getting crazy.😂

[@gogomapleyo]

thank goodness it's over for jj and the boys.. lets rest in peace~ 🎃

[@thpeacemaker]

1:18 "... You might've." Killed me

[@MoonShineVVitch]

Honestly after Lost everyone should've seen him for that he was. A bootlicking hack.

[@isharsingh8048]

I get lens-flare flashbacks every time I hear his name

[@AntiDecepticonCampaign]

Same here

[@marcmarc1967]

There are two Katie McGrath's, for those that might be confused. One is Jar-Jars's wife, the other is the actress who played Morgana in the series Merlin.

[@4310corey]

He screwed up the show The Knick, he said I'll do 2 seasons. He left a cliff hanger then the cliff fell into the ocean.😭😭😭😭

[@Michael_Ian_Blackface]

The Knick was from Steven Soderbergh.

[@lonewolf5054]

Dude killed both the star trek and star wars franchises, he should be black listed from Hollywood

[@QuintusStatiliousProcorpius]

"Post Spielberg" 😂

[@LH74]

JJ Abrams singlehandedly destroyed the 2 biggest science fiction franchises ever.

[@6shnuggle6]

Turn JJ into a CEO for a day. Reload.

[@j.springer1496]

May I also have $500m for being terrible at everything? Please?

[@blatherama]

I'll be terrible for half that amount.

[@DarksaberForce]

I'll be crap for just 10% at 50 million.

[@raijinmeister]

8:20 As a former collector of both publishers, I can confirm. I'm way more passionate about my DC stuff. And Legion by Keith Giffen, chef's kiss.

[@inkermoy]

As much as some LSH fans poopoo Five Years Later, it did get me back into reading Legion, seeing how characters evolved. And GIffen's 9 panel layouts were an extraordinarily bold move.

[@hcook1023]

Marvel is more popular overall but there's a reason DC has the biggest names, the fan base is so passionate it transfered to adaptation priority Marvel used to be known for their teams but people wouldn't know many members and Spider-Man. DC had the biggest names so popular many of their rogues galleries were famous

[@AnonymousNoNayme]

Damn Gary was on tonight. He was spitting some of the hardest truths i've heard in awhile. Well said man. Well said.

[@Mwhusa1957]

12:00 CW network - “Cringe Worthy” 😂

[@ayyjay91]

Ayooo that thumbnail 😂

[@Zathren]

The only thing that I really liked from JJ Abrams was a sci-fi tv show called Fringe. It was two other writers besides him, so I think that paints a clear picture that he was a third of a decent writer. (show didn't have a good ending, studio shut it down so they rushed an ending)

[@blatherama]

I liked Fringe a lot, but that may be despite JJA rather than because of him. In fact, it may be because of Anna Torv as a red-head.

[@kurtwinter4422]

Fringe was another example of bad JJ writing. Alternate universe first had shapeshifting robots, then they go there and all that's different is cell phones. JJ is a total failure.

[@DRTYFN]

@@sammyp578It was the radicals first test of the multiverse BS

[@inkermoy]

I wouldn't even say Jar Jar Abrams' direction was anything spectacular and even annoying. Remember all the shaky cam? I mean, Ethan Hunt is sliding down a sloped, smooth glass building rooftop, and the camera is shaking all over the place. The car chase is so shaky that you'd think Michael J. Fox is holding the camera! He's a total hack both creatively and directorally.

[@houseofel6252]

We don't need a black Superman film. WB is such an inept and incompetent studio! 🤦‍♂

[@rememberitsallcensorship]

It's like watching kitchen nightmares, it's everything except the product.

[@street1111]

I so glad I didn't watch the last two Star wars movies and don't know anyone that saw the last star wars movie

[@pasalasaga]

Mine was 8. Haven't seen It since cinema release, same with 7. But I have rewatched the first and only 6 films.

[@secretlemonadephil]

I hate to semi recall it as it was once only but roughly "there is just 1 wayfinder (violent vomit).....oh actually, there is 'nother" AGGGGGH! Space horses was a relief after that.

[@bb-gc2tx]

j j left mystery boxes all over the force awakens then rian johnson came along and left steaming piles of 💩💩 in all of them 🤣

[@jffry24]

Seems that Abrams never really created anything he just piggyback on other people’s creations

[@correr96]

Ta Nehisi Coates' 'Superman: Man of Steal'

[@Joe-Przybranowski]

Jar jar needs to be kept far away from anything of importance in the future. He has already helped destroy two culturally important ips we need to hobble him before he does anymore damage.

[@keithmichael112]

I'll stand up for Alias and Fringe. Especially Fringe, great show. He rose to the level of his mediocrity

[@edmon7943]

3 of my top 5 shows, Alias, Lost, and Fringe. Glad he was involved in those shows

[@redacted1803]

I really liked that show but I could not stand the constant lens flares.

[@edelmantoamendola]

Let's be honest Felicity was good too. Used to make fun of my sister for watching it then realized i liked it.

[@johncameron4194]

Alias season 5 was crap

[@broderickhunt6872]

Fringe was good but the end shit the bed

[@mathurinkerbouchard8931]

JarJar “copy-paste” Abrams, JarJar “mystery box that leads to nowhere” Abrams, JarJar “”nostalgia is everything” Abrams, JarJar “Idea-thief/credit-stealer” Abrams, JarJar “creativity-void” Abrams, etc. You guys can add more if you want to.

[@ZolaRenard_01]

He better start doing original movies instead of doing IPs. All IPs he had been doing had flopped hard

[@randyhavard6084]

Lucas, Spielberg, Cameron... Those are creators. Jj Abrams is an impersonator

[@Attmay]

An impersonator of boomers whose best days are behind them.

[@TheThreatenedSwan]

Spielberg is also awful

[@Attmay]

He certainly has lost his touch lately.

[@Linda-qp9kp]

He was brilliant in the beginning. Jaws, Raiders off the Lost Ark are great. I think he fell victim to the hype of his own success, though. Ego can be very destructive.

[@NoidoDev]

Certainly overrated.

[@michaellumovich8325]

The coral reef was paradise until all the blowfish exhaled simultaneously.

[@NikoRoulias]

Also a member of the small hat tribe.

[@ImagineMySurprise510]

Gary's resolution always looks poor, like about 480p or worse. I'd like to see it stepped up to at least 720p, or since this is youtube, 1080p would be good.

[@MissPerriwinkle]

jarjar......he such a joke these days.