Healing and You: Darkest Dungeon Guide

[@matias1278]

Highwayman is the best healer, killing every enemy in the game is the best heal

[@ItsJustColton]

heals my soul

[@blackdragonxtra]

Preventitive Medicine

[@andrewnguyen4801]

Not false

[@commonpepe2270]

True. Vestal treats the symptoms. Highwayman cures the disease.

[@quinnlee-miller9792]

As jokey as this is, this is the spirit of preventative, or proactive, play. You are not wrong in that killing enemies is the best kind of healing

[@asherb5134]

"Occulist heal the crusade fast he's having a heart attack! " *0 healing *Bleeding "here you go pal"

[@cyberdiver7076]

More like: *Crit heal *0 *Bleeding

[@gaysiegelord]

@@cyberdiver7076 if it's a crit it's impossible for it to be zero.

[@cyberdiver7076]

@@gaysiegelord Oh you sweet innocent child.

[@gaysiegelord]

@@cyberdiver7076 that's you

[@SecureBirch410]

@@gaysiegelord do some maths, if occultist rolls 0 but it's a crit what would 0 X 2 be?

[@Donagalthegamer]

>Watches Flagellant gameplay >Likes the idea of using Flag deaths's door heal >Sunward Isles mod has trinket that does +100% crit at death's door, +dmg aginast bleeding, -10acc and take dmg when you miss >Add Martyr's Seal for that deaths door resist >Gets double crit'd and bled, first round of first combat, heals everyone who's still at max >Fails first death check, Refuses to elaborate further, Dies.

[@runtergerutscht4401]

The true darkest dungeon experience

[@MrKankrash]

epic gamer moment

[@madmanvarietyshow9605]

Shit this just happened to me. Decided to try Death's Door and Rapturous Flagellant with Martyr's Seal and some other low HP trinkets. He failed the first Death's Door check to a 2 damage stress move and had like 80% Death's Door resist. Then a man down still killed the boss and finished out the rest of the dungeon. No stress, no Death's, barely any bad luck. The game decided that it wanted Tourniquet the Master Flagellant to die.

[@MrRevillo]

Overconfidence can also be a fast and brutal killer.

[@warden8508]

⁠it do be like that sometimes

[@murkel7634]

22:05 "Judgement normally does like 5-7" *SHOWS IT DEALING 8*

[@ShuffleFM]

I'm am expert on this game I promise. Please believe me.

[@ReaperStarcraft]

I definitely slept on Plague Doctor's healing skill when I first played this game but removing DOT is actually huge healing and makes a great pairing with Occultist since you expect some bleeds. And since you're pairing PD with Occultist and Blight is good in the Cove and all the Cove enemies are Eldritch that makes the Cove a great place to go. And since the Cove has Coral you can remove all your negative quirks and save yourself thousands of gold in the Hamlet. And since you brought PD you may as well remove all your diseases, too, saving yourself even more thousands of gold in the Hamlet. PD is just such an unreal value, 10/10 would buy again.

[@RKNELIAS]

Probably the best character in the game, is my favorite for sure.

[@DinnerForkTongue]

Also, do _not_ underestimate Incision. It's a pretty damn respectable melee attack, and one of the reasons why PD is not the worst choice ever for the Courtyard.

[@ANGST.ARGENTINA]

@@DinnerForkTongue Melee P D

[@DinnerForkTongue]

@@ANGST.ARGENTINA SCHWING 🔪

[@Rakshael]

@@DinnerForkTongue been using it on some mod playthroughs for that sick "extra damage if target bleeding" factor

[@billythesheep3875]

Rank 4 Flag dedicated to support is the definition of suffering from success

[@somebodyalive6131]

Honestly, when I started I switched between the Vestal and Occultist. I did Vestal first and was like "5, 5, 5, 5... huh." and then I did Occultist and every heal in that dungeon was at least 10... *Reject God, return to Cthulhu*

[@dustinsterling3248]

Underrated comment

[@kamilslup7743]

I either roll 10s with bleed or 3 without so ok

[@vladthecon]

vestal and occultist make a good team they open each other up so vestal can throw more bonks and stuns and occultist can pull and mark.

[@kudosayala4943]

Occultist is annoying & inconsistent. Especially in a pinch.

[@hellhound74]

​@@kudosayala4943this is why you should occultist heal when a character is about half health, if you roll low the character isn't in immediate danger of dying, and if you high roll then the character is immediately at full health.... Just don't occultist heal to get people off deaths door

[@abiam9X]

Feel like it's worth mentioning that crit heals differ from damage in two ways; crit rate is always set at 12% for single target and 5% for AOE, which you mentioned, but also getting a crit doubles whatever you roll, meaning it doesn't automatically use the maximum like attacks do. It doesn't usually come into play since ranges aren't that wide (other than Occultist), but I figure it's worth mentioning regardless.

[@Vanstrudel]

Oh dang I assumed attacks were just double what you rolled this whole time based on seeing *2 CRITICAL* heals from occultist. Thank you!

[@astra8815]

oh i didnt know healing crit rate was set... thats so sad!!!

[@menaceiwill1]

Bru the other day my occultist heal on my jester, did a crit for 67. Such a random large number. Like how is that possible because crits? So weird.

[@abiam9X]

@@menaceiwill1 It might have also been because of either a healing received buff on Jester, like from camping or quirks, or a healing buff from Occ's crit or quirk or trinkets. The game calculates things in weird ways sometimes; it's almost always additive, and usually rounds things up, but not always. Plus it can be easy to miss some factor. I'm fairly sure healing buffs are additive, and crits are multiplicative for example, but I don't know how things like healing received buffs work. I imagine it is additive on the end value of the heal? DD works in mysterious ways. Point is, the numbers can look weird sometimes, but as far as I know there is always a logic to it. Check your quirks, buffs/debuffs, trinkets. There's some way to get there. Though a lot of the fun of Occ's healing is the big number, so as long as he rolls high there isn't much to look into. He can heal for well over a hundred I'm pretty sure.

[@RobotLVS]

Plague Doc is honestly an underrated healer imo. Double stun has saved me thousands of damage 🥰

[@dodang_9147]

Occultist hand of abyss and plague doctor blinding gas is my favorite combo in the game.

[@stonetimekeeper]

Personally, I like Occultists as main healer, with occultist as my secondary healer.

[@jackofastora8962]

@15th Century Priest those are the main damage dealer and the secondary damage dealer

[@wisemage0]

@@15thcenturypriest67 Occultist is so beautiful that he can heal in ranks two and 1. One zero = one prayer

[@secretname2670]

Actually, I started running double occultist recently, in spot 2 and 4 and they do a pretty good job of keeping the party afloat, with the added bonus of my backline occultist 'Cloak' being a solid support and my frontline occultist 'Dagger' being a solid stun machine. Cloak and Dagger.

[@mrdeafter]

early game Occultist : 0 heal plus bleed 3 time in the row Champion Occultist : 20+ heal 7/10 time

[@petkofuchalski9809]

"The Occultist is unreliable as a healer" *Me, running Occultist as main heal output with stacks of bandages* Unreliable, huh ?

[@MatthewTheUntitled]

Tell ur guy that *0. Bleeding* is not reliability I'm looking for

[@petkofuchalski9809]

@@MatthewTheUntitled i donno, the 15-20 heal rolls seem pretty reliable to me.

[@lustejon]

@@petkofuchalski9809 Yeah maybe after you get 2-4 heal rolls 7 times in a row then lose a hero

[@petkofuchalski9809]

@@lustejon daim, RNGsus dosen't like you, huh? :D

[@left4twenty]

@@petkofuchalski9809 relying on luck is the antithesis of a reliable strategy

[@tlsgrz6194]

Still mad about the Arbalest being the perfect class on paper (a backline damage dealer who heals when the backline is dead and stalling/recovery starts) but she somehow just doesn‘t work.

[@kamilslup7743]

Musketeer is a more damage-based arbalest

[@antonmamontov2453]

​​@@kamilslup7743i thought they are literally the same

[@jahn5600]

​@@antonmamontov2453 they are this guy has no idea what he's talking about, the only difference is a com trinket

[@robslobonbobscob2267]

@@jahn5600 nah musketeer at least 8x better it has literally been proven

[@Eloxist]

Leper is the best healer because you don't have to heal anything if you instantly nuke everything out of existence.

[@kamilslup7743]

Solo leper is probably viable, double leper is OP

[@theprominenza2655]

He Is also able to heal the most important Hero in the party, himself

[@jackofastora8962]

Occultist is hands down the best healer in the game, he just so happens to also be one of the biggest team killers in the game, IMO it’s worth the gamble to bass boost his speed and healing skill so that you can at least have any possible bled heroes bandaged up within that round

[@patrickripleyiii134]

Just remember that if you can negate damage that that's effectively better healing, a lot of the time attacking is better than healing

[@tigercrush2253]

For real. My favorite healing trinkets are +dmg%

[@petkofuchalski9809]

unless you MISS. on the bright side, you can't miss with heals :D

[@patrickripleyiii134]

Damn guess jester is the best healer with battle ballad

[@petkofuchalski9809]

@@patrickripleyiii134 Man-at-arms as well with is AoE ACC buff.

[@empirecrumbles615]

to be fair, it is nice to get people off of death's door

[@falseking989]

Also the Flagellant’s reclaim heal-over-time is the only heal in the game that cannot be denied by an afflicted hero.

[@fortheloveofking]

I've been watching your videos so much because, correct me if I'm wrong, most of us here are people who randomly pick up this game and can't put it down for weeks at a time. Such a niche game but I couldn't be more excited about the sequel. I'm in my third stint of playing this, and only this, from waking up early and putting hours on it and then grabbing a couple runs later in the day. Every niche needs and expert an you're my guy.

[@ShuffleFM]

Thanks for the kind words

[@guruvedra]

0 critical heal and bleed - thats our boy!

[@blizzard-w9t]

nice to see Arbalest in here, people really sleep on her healing output. she is wonderful at it with just one healing trinket which you can get really early and her crimson court trinket which isn't something you may get at first but it is a great trinket when you do. as well that healing incease with the bandage makes the self heals of houndmaster, leper, and the abomination a lot better. she also pairs really well with occultist just incase he roles a zero.

[@astra8815]

honestly i think dumping vestal and trying for different healing sources was one of my favorite decisions to do in this game, alot of heroes (namely, im thinking of crusader occultist and arbalest) have respectable healing that arent the vestal

[@RookieREX]

I will say Arbalest NEEDS supplementary heals, she alone cannot outheal the dmg your team takes, i once went to the weald with a MAN AT ARMS and i hit deaths door on ALL MY HEROES because Arb cant heal multiple targets effectivly and the slimes happened to crit every other turn so yeah... cove is my prefered biome for many reasons

[@kamilslup7743]

Musketeer is the same but without the personal trinket

[@Khorn1996]

Why doesn't arbalest bandages heal bleed? Just why?

[@jacobhoover1654]

In the multiplayer they changed that

[@left4twenty]

The holy crusade of crusader-crusader-leper-leper, is a pretty great team for stress heal, hp heal, damage output and hp pool. Make crusader-4 has the higher speed and they holy lance forever. Bleed resist Flagellant is the craziest healing, I think. One that has multiple chances to crit heal and do some sanity as well

[@Ofxzh]

I have never played darkest dungeon, but plan to plan darkest dungeon 2. Sad that crusader will not be in 2 because I know the highway man and the crusader were bros

[@petkofuchalski9809]

i do recomend DD1 though. If you get into it, it will be your most hated favorite game of all time.

[@user-nn7qo3vt4n]

The crusader is not in early access but he will probably be there inThe full game

[@kamilslup7743]

Vestal is also gone, and antiquarian became a boss.

[@muxilava]

Boy I have good news for you

[@Wint20k]

I love your videos!! You have a very nice voice to sleep to. I don't play DD anymore but your content keep me interested in the game. Keep up the good work!!

[@Mo_sty]

weird compliment but okay

[@bigroxxor420]

Chig Charm > Sacred Scroll Vestal's heals are high enough to not need that much of a boost 99% of the time. You always need her to stun when not healing or doing some helpful dmg with judgement which is a viable heal if only she is hurt. Scroll hampers both of her best proactive skills. Go on, show him you're ready....

[@connorrobeck246]

Occultist is actually a great primary healer. He's just terrible when you need a death's door heal. Primary healer implies a secondary healer. If you run him alongside Arbalest, or run him alongside self healers like HM and Leper, he's golden. I know that only the last HP counts, but Occultist can ensure that's usually not a consideration. He's a horrifying eldritch security blanket.

[@kingofthejungle5338]

That thumbnail is spot on

[@Rudi4rius]

Flagelly best healer

[@normalguy5953]

Best boi

[@adellaideskyhart5286]

he cant use heal when he want 40% of his life needed so...

[@flagellantbestgirl]

reclaim is a thing

[@bongosmcdongos4190]

@@adellaideskyhart5286 his other heal, specced properly will help bleed him down so...

[@owholypwner3548]

That moment when you crit heal your death's door dismas

[@runtergerutscht4401]

A fully dedicated heal/stress heal flagellant can remove the stress and health mechanic from your other 3 heroes. Reclaim is insane and is in my opinion the equal of a vestal, combined with max health% healing and stress reduction+healing and you can heal your teammates for almost 20 stress while taking like 2 in return. Running a crusader or jester means you can keep the flag's stress in check as well, essentially turning the game to easy mode.

[@as45kx]

My team consist of 4 healers plus all what you can eat buffet

[@RobCoFPS]

You forgot another great healer: Granary + food

[@kamilslup7743]

Boost it with the mill (remove random hunger checks)

[@stylishemerald3181]

The Occultist and the Flagellant are most likely to be my main healers because they're too dang great! The Vestal however... well she's a great healer too but my issue for her is... she's quite easily get stressed and then comes to affliction beside with the Jester. At least the Jester has a stress - reliever skill that's why I bring him along to the party.

[@kamilslup7743]

I mainly use jester to make everyone a crackhead with battle ballad, stress heal only when above 50 stress (unless they got stress faster quirk)

[@olliecherpuzi5045]

"Ah a healer. So you heal right" Vestal: I stun.

[@ardynizunia9709]

3:36 Very simple reason. 3 * 1.5(50% increase) is 4.5. You round up for decimals at or above 5, so rounding 4.5 would make it a 5. But when you ad another 50% you DON'T suddenly increase the 4.5 by another 50%, you just add the two 50s together and increase the base value by it. So then we have 3 * 2(100% increase) which is a flat 6 without any rounding.

[@beatdeath9962]

I know its a year ago, but I just felt like watching some Darkest Dungeon content. It always felt weird to me that Arbalest/Musketeer don't cleanse bleed just cause they use Bandages, while Plague Doctor gives you some Potion and just blood stops flowing, always seemed funny just cause how stupid that sounds.

[@idvdump]

I'm late to the party but these videos are helping me out a lot with this game in 2023! Thank you!

[@Neon002121]

Love the content Shuffle. I was too nervous not to run Vestal for a long time and honestly I’m glad I’ve moved to using an OCC and PD combo more commonly because honestly I find it easier to fill the other 2 spots since OCC and PD are great at battle control.

[@ShuffleFM]

PD, jester, occultist, [any frontliner] is a really strong comp if you like that pair. I say any frontliner but leper and hellion work best. Flagellant too. And shieldbreaker. I'll stop editing this now >_>

[@РулонОбоев-н9ъ]

For me it's simple. For mark-based builds and low-risk dungeons I pick Occultist. In other cases - Vestal with healing trinkets. I prefer stable aoe-10 to a whole team over "Crit 0, bleeding" before Deathblow.

[@DinnerForkTongue]

Feels a little bit like you skimmed over the Arbalest's camp heals (an "All Companions" heal like Triage is pretty nice when you're beat up and/or can't afford a Feast), but overall this is a very nice analysis. Good writeup, Shuffle.

[@Онактожаждет]

Dude that thumbnail was lit . great one and have a nice day

[@fedecano7362]

I have learnt quite a lot with your videos mate. Im new to the game and it is a struggle. Like I was doing fine until I reached champion quests and then I relaised I had to start a new camaping, get way more heroes, build them slowly, get the upgrades and get to champion quests in much better shape. Its quite a grind eh? Just came back after losing a plague doctor on a long mission, feeling bummed. Liked and subbed btw!

[@theoryoftheinnocent]

Lately, I've discovered just how potent Flag's heal over time can be, and I went from using it as a secondary source of healing to being a primary source of healing. It's also worth noting that the restoration buff persists after battles into exploration, just like DoTs, so walking a few spaces uninterrupted can end up giving a unit almost all their health back.

[@victorfaria3797]

Wish you had opened a point focusing in autoheals - Leper, Houndmaster, Abom, Hellion and Vestal - as bringing some of these is impactful on the choice of the healer, or even if it really necessary to bring one. The healing boost from arbalest/mustk is even more effective with some of those autohealers.

[@hellhound74]

Battlefield healing is actually a BIG reason ive been keeping a plauge doctor in my party, mix that with the stuns and a vestial and i can usually keep the stress casters locked down so my front liners can kill things

[@unknownkingdom]

I'm all about healibg with food. I love bringing the 40% healing received trinket and passing it around, as well as the food consumed reductoon trinket. I somehow never got into using the arbalest heal in anticipation of food and camp healing though. Definitely a grest idea.

[@Blawsh]

I just found your channel, you speak so clearly and definitely know your stuff, your videos are awesome. Keep it up!

[@LordYharim]

i always watch your videos even though i'm already very advanced, your video style are just so good and your voice too

[@eternalrogue832]

One of the best uses of that meme template that I have seen lol.

[@ShuffleFM]

Tadsu has been killing it with the thumbnails

[@jonathanrobinson319]

Occultist is the best healer? Well yes, But actually no. I lost the count of how many allies the occultist killed with the combo 0+bleed.

[@Netugi]

Would just like to shout out Occultist's blood pact trinket as a damage mitigation trinket for his own heal lol. I know it's generally not worth bringing normally since all it does is make his heal slightly more reliable, but it kinda kicks ass in torchless runs with that +4 speed on top of everything else.

[@ShuffleFM]

Occultist set is amazing. Sad you have to run low light for it, but sub 60 isn't too dangerous compared to torchless

[@Juliett-A]

I fell in love with the occultist once I took the heal off her bar. She just does so much work when she's killing or hindering.

[@alexbenner565]

TIL Occultist is a woman...

[@Appleyfrog]

No mention of the ancestor's scroll? Also is there any chance of you making a STRESS heal related video? Would love to see jester get some love!

[@colonelsouffle3042]

Roof spaghetti has got to be my favorite nickname for Occultist

[@Kryptnyt]

"Your Occultist was an average healer... but he was a brilliant stabbystabber!"

[@chrisb9179]

This was very informative shuffle! Thank you.

[@javorgeorgiev6130]

Healing is really whack in general, but I also wasn't healing at the right time. The best time to heal would be when the threat against you has the least potential to hit as hard or harder. Most front liners hit hard for life and most backliners hit hard at stress. If at the start of the fight I focus the backline and stun the frontline, at the end of the fight I'll still be taking almost as much as I would be if I didn't touch the backline at all. I was also using Vestal's backline heal without any boost from the Arbalest, which outside of getting someone higher over Death's Door, is most often lower value than the group heal. Not every front liner hits hard and not every stress caster hits for a lot of stress, so it changes kill focus and healing priority.

[@BaranZenon]

AOE heal is the best thing when you have to deal with AOE damage. In that mod that ads German units from WW2, which is based on that WARSAW game, it comes with a wandering boss which is a god damned Panzer 4. And that beast has such awful AOE skills, that without a Vestal with AOE heal (I meet that thing with a Occulitst), it will grind you to a pulp.

[@NoName-md6fd]

Yeah okay I did the math for occultist using average dice rolls. (all possible numbers divided by the amount of "sides", here it's 23) I'm not counting crits. Without bleed he rolls 0 to 22 heal for an average of 11 with bleed he rolls -9 to 13 for an average of 2 Moral of the story, bring plague doctor's heal, flagellant's suffer, bleed resist or some bandages. 0 heal and bleed is bad on a pinch but he heals for more than vestal.

[@thethrongler3070]

Im not sure if you made a video about scouting yet, but if not I would love to see one!

[@ShuffleFM]

I'll see what I can do :)

[@thethrongler3070]

@@ShuffleFM thanks dad!

[@ericm1839]

Vestal is best if your entire team is squish, which is why she's so good for early game. Once your team becomes good at dodging and gets some prot and a not-shite health pool, you want single-target heals for the one or two heroes who got piled up on or took an unlucky crit

[@ColombianAspie]

excellent video buddy, thanks for uploading this kind of stuff

[@CinnamonKilljoy]

I for one use Chirurgeons Charm far more often than Sacred Scroll. The I slap the stun amulet on my Vestal and suddenly Dazzling Light is her main move.

[@ahmadwahbi1212]

playing Occulist "Heals 0" "Heals 0 + bleed" "Heals 1" "Heals 4 crit"

[@Ciemny]

Yesterday I tried to run occultist as a main healer without second, backup healer like crusader or plague doctor. Worst mistake ever. I wasted 6 bandages in 2 fights and then i saw Uca Major... that was my first time, when it was able to stack bleeding with arterial pinch on any of my heroes. After first hit i tried to heal with occultist. That's how it went: 0-0-0-0(critical+bleed). Well... with 17 bleed per 6 turns and no bandages this was a really good run. Solo occultist as a healer? -Never again.

[@finempra8730]

RNGesus did not bless you that day

[@dofima1729]

im by no means good at this game, i still dont know shit and im only on my second ever run, but i actually think occultist is better then vestal. I dont know if its my luck with him or something but i find occultist to be consistent enough to out-heal vestal on almost every level especially very early on when vestal heals for 4. ofc you might get a very low heal or a zero and that sucks but ive had this guy heal for 20+ significantly more times thenive had him heal 0. (also i should note i almost always use junia's head on him cause all his other trinkets as you said dont help out that much)

[@ANGST.ARGENTINA]

That's how math works. You do get more healing from him. The problem is when you don't.

[@anastasiaaratovska856]

I had occultist heal for 0 four times in the row so….wouldn’t rely on him

[@morganqm9447]

“Crusader is more of a support with some ok damage”. YOU MADE YOURS CRIT THREE TIMES IN A ROW

[@charlesissleepy]

plague doctor's leeches is good too. Diseases can hobble a good hero and taking the time to treat them in the medical ward sucks. Grave digger's snuffbox is even better, in case she also has a disease

[@Partor6]

I heard a suggestion that you shouldn't really focus on the healing with Antiquarian, and go for damage instead, since at higher level 3 vs 5 healing really doesn't make much difference, so I kinda just stopped using the candle altogether. (50% heal and 15%HP with no drawbacks sound really good on paper, but in practice it's just really underwhelming)

[@Incarnate-1]

am i missing something im on week 90 and havent seen the flagellator once in the cart??

[@cragraven]

Do you have the crimson court dlc?

[@i_request_dosh9921]

Flagellant is a bonus DLC character that comes for free with Crimson Court

[@Incarnate-1]

@@cragraven ok idk about that i got the game from the game pass on xbox so im guessing i dont have the dlc

[@bongosmcdongos4190]

@@Incarnate-1 if you don't, almost all the dlc is awesome for this game.

[@petkofuchalski9809]

@@bongosmcdongos4190 by alsmost, you mean ecxept the PvP focused one? :D

[@VioletSilence]

Given the sheer number of times Occultist healed from death's door to full health even chonky bois like Leper and Crusader, he's my favourite healer in this game. I take healbot Occlutist quite often, just slap Junia's head and Ancestor's scroll on him and call it a day. I remember taking Occultist with just a scroll or none of healing trinkets at all on Vet and Champion missions and the difference is very apparent. Easy 17-25 no crit heals turned into something around 10-14 and it felt super meh.

[@skraaaaz]

Antiquarian also gives you alot more gold if you open curios with her.

[@tolvajtamas8567]

Actually, Occultist with Antiquarian is a good idea, because of the Bleed Resist buff. :D I need to try it.

[@PRO100SashaX]

Expected flag in preview in place of occultist, with number like 150 or something stupid like that (crit heal from Redeem with 100% heal bonus is like 1.5 the max hp of a character, you can get really stupid AND really useless numbers from Leper with that).

[@whymee123]

Antiquarian keeps the party off death door, i prefer her HoT with more damage focused compositions just to burn through fights

[@IHaTeCookie05]

I am pretty sure reclaim has a 5 percent chance to crit and not 12, great video other than that

[@ShuffleFM]

Can you find a source for that? It's a single target heal so it should be 12%. Thanks for not saying the entire video was trash because you found 1 thing out of place like others have done to me

[@kiraventom]

I don't agree with you on Sacred Scroll, what does these -33% DMG change? Does anyone use Judgement for real damage, not just to kill enemy with 2-3 hp left? Personally I think Sacred Scroll is a must-have for Vestal if not on rank 2. Great video btw

[@S_Black]

Often enemies are just a bit more than 2-3 HP away from death. It becomes more attractive in boss fights

[@slayking2378]

Sacred scroll and ancestor scroll with a vestal who has the 20 percent healing quirk is ridiculous healing

[@gemmy9727]

Tbh vestal can be a good bruiser with one of her blue item in rank 2 and she can still have the aoe heal while oblitersting everything in the front

[@victorprati7908]

Occultist best healer unless... Hey Shuffle how to deal with the crimson curse? Also, are the curse condition related trinkets worth it?

[@ShuffleFM]

Best way to deal with the curse is embrace it, I mean that seriously. It's a strong bonus for any damage dealer, but it can be bad on supports. Don't be afraid to do the short missions in courtyard to gather blood. If you'd rather not and it's just a frustration for you, then build up a team to take down the current CC boss so it gets cured from the entire estate. Fanatic is not worth fighting and is far too dangerous.

[@victorprati7908]

Ight so it's time to face the infestation head on.

[@keithkania3810]

I’d say if you want to get the most out of you occultist with them getting your teammates killed from RNG here’s some questionable advice: -Pair occultist with tanks like leper due to the high heal cap -Bring teammates with higher than average DOT resist and give them trinkets relating to it if necessary and never do the inverse. -Bring someone along to do any backup healing until the funny skull man re-adjusts his turban so he can do big heals at in the case of DD. I’m not that great at DD it’s just what I’ve noticed is getting the most party members killed.

[@PolandDoge]

crusader with a healing and a stress healing trinket carried me in the last darkest dungeon

[@belzebubukas]

"Very small chance of hitting 0" with an occultist. Haha. No.

[@petkofuchalski9809]

Honestly, getting a 2 crit heal is a lot worse.

[@DinnerForkTongue]

@@petkofuchalski9809 Meh, at least a crit heal of any value heals 4 stress.

[@Duchess_Van_Hoof]

XCOM odds.

[@slayking2378]

@@Duchess_Van_Hoof Xcom odds are BS way worse then this game when it comes to fake rng

[@Duchess_Van_Hoof]

Part of the XCOM problem is the presentation, your character aims dead on a stationary target and then jerk to the side and aim at the sky.

[@nikkovalidor4890]

People are just misinformed Getting three 0 crit heals in a row is super reliable

[@lkledu2]

how trinket stats are calculated? When i've two trinkets that increase healing, one increase 50%, the other increases 15%, 'll have a increase of 65% or it will increase 50% and 15% of the value increased before? Btw i`ve a problem with stress stats, the ones that said that gives +20% stress, its about stress reduction or I`ll gain +20% more stress?

[@Mr_Maiq_The_Liar]

healing trinkets on occultist aren't actually that, good anyways. Unlike with damage, where multipliers are added to both sides of the range and then a number is rolled between them with each number being equally probable, with healing, the roll is first made and then the number is multiplied by the healing buff. Thus, no matter how much healing you buff an occultist at max level still has a 1/23 chance to roll zero, and it takes a wopping 50% healing buff just for the next lowest tick number to start outpacing the smallest dots you see. If occultist had healing trinkets, people might think that using those trinkets is the solution to their occultist low roll meme, but in reality, since they only have significant impacts on the high rolls, it the healing buffs would only provide meaningful contributions when occultists are healing people near or at deaths door, but without reducing the risk inherent to doing that. Occultist healing buff is a trap that makes people wait too long to heal, and trying to fix occultist healing with trinkets is a trap to not using stuff that improves stun or pull chance. Among all healers, he's probably the worse choice to buff healing, since he can get so much value with buffed stuns and pulls

[@ruberine2086]

I love running healer Occultist. Occasionally I'll take 2 of them for extra gambling.

[@kamilslup7743]

Unrelated but funny trinket combo: swift cloak + move charm +1 speed and nothing else

[@Timo4eus]

There is a trinket that gives -15 bleed that can make occultist practically safe.

[@r.a.fgattaiguy845]

wow I gotta look that up

[@OmniPeasant]

Nice thumbnail

[@elijahkeay3906]

The second hero I ever got killed in darkest dungeon was the famous deaths door 0 heal with bleed activating. My friend popped off

[@elijahkeay3906]

Yes it did in fact kill him in the end

[@necronmaster]

Arbalest's "Battlefield Bandage" skill and Muskeeters "Patch Up" skill wont heal bleeding... Cos this Bandages are made in China.

[@paulberry5750]

Omen Seeker just died from a Sycophant hit on the FIRST deathblow check. A Hellion died from a cleaver pig three days ago. Again, she lost the first DB check. The RNG has changed. Vestel is going to have to be my Main Healer.

[@stfu-pi-ddk1ddo891]

who was your main healer, wounded traveller?

[@paulberry5750]

@@stfu-pi-ddk1ddo891 Arb + Occ. Zero X 38% is still Zero.

[@stfu-pi-ddk1ddo891]

@@paulberry5750 i love that duo... i'll try not to be so reliant in occ + arb

[@commandertaco1762]

So, you need 47 health? Sorry. Best I can do is crit 0 +bleed

[@boowson]

It's a shame, that Vestal doesn't have any trinket dedicated to stunning chance. Put such a trinket and other to boost healing and she's super powerful and reliable.

[@bongosmcdongos4190]

At least we have the common trinkets. Oh god.

[@flagellantbestgirl]

her cc set boosts stun chance

[@MarkMyWordsXx]

I don't really agree about the pd's he's counting for the total of the bleed. Your not factoring in bandages and antidotes from the inventory. It's probably .25 less effective than your saying because you should have the items

[@r.a.fgattaiguy845]

tbf 90% of the time you throw those away before you get to use them

[@TheAshHeritor]

The thumbnail says it all.

[@alanballard8740]

Totally unrelated but I just thought of a new game mode - If one of your characters dies, the enemy type that killed him/her gets a buff for the rest of the playthrough. Whatcha guys think?

[@petkofuchalski9809]

sounds fun, until you realize that this can trigger on bosses as well.

[@jacobhoover1654]

I get its a challenge but how does that logically make sense?

[@petkofuchalski9809]

@@jacobhoover1654 when they kill your heros, they consume them, including their souls, gaining their power. It will kinda make sense considering none of the heros leave corpses.

[@tiagopaim3060]

Crusader does ok damage? Me in ruins critting every single skeleton for 4x their hp

[@bongosmcdongos4190]

Leper best healer cmon.

[@TheValiantBob]

Wait, using Arbalest on a non-mark comp?? Is it possible to learn this power?

[@ShuffleFM]

Yeah! Just shoot things in the back or use suppressing fire, then use heals :)

[@Cherb123456]

Thank you!