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@dorefromDetroit Жыл бұрын
Completely agree. Are you familiar with the association of contextual behavior sciences? I think there may be a way to collaborate to help a lot of our hsp/ND/fuck-the-labels-im-hurting peeps, more effectively. Also have you done work with Dabrowski's Theory of Positive Disintegration? Societally, we are at the rarely discussed reintegration phase, and you actually need both: did and re integration. People need to get happy living in the paradox. The enlightenment is over, go home 🤣. AUM Shanti AUM peace out yall
@jordanthornton Жыл бұрын
@@dorefromDetroit Yes, I featured Dabrowski's work in my video titled: "Gifted Child Survival Guide" - he's excellent, and I find him incredibly insightful. Check it out!
@brookewerner6448Ай бұрын
I can’t thank you enough for the work you are doing. I’ve been through about a dozen therapists/social workers/psychiatrists to trying to keep my dissociation and depersonalization at bay. Not a single one explained the importance of a daily movement practice in the way you have. Grounding techniques just aren’t enough for long term healing. I’m so excited to pick up a movement routine once again. I know it’ll stick since I have knowledge on why it’s so important. I agree that disassociation is a chronic problem in society. I have never thought about it that way before however it makes perfect sense. I’m surprised more people aren’t talking about it!! Jordan you are truly God sent. 🙏
@jordanthornton28 күн бұрын
Extremely happy to know that this video opened a new doorway, and likewise inspired the movement routine. May August feel flowing and steady for you, and thanks for the extra money towards the next book.
@Coach-j1h Жыл бұрын
Thank you. Loud and clear big dog 🐶 Id love to be able to express myself in a similar manner one day , that slow calm way of talking is magnetic and soothing. Learning alot from your channel very great full 🙏 cheers
@jordanthornton Жыл бұрын
You are kind, thank you once again.
@Elvira239 Жыл бұрын
Perfect timing. Today I noticed I didn't even realize that I've dissociated to the point I can't connect to any of my feelings or even memories. I find it impossible to make a decision that I was so certain about before I went into this dissociated state. But what's scary is that I spent most of my life like this and I never realized what's happening to me. I thought it was really my authentic self to not have a single feeling in a crisis. Very strange for someone who feels everything so intensely like me. So I was a walking contradiction all this time. It really gives me hope to know I can do something about it. Thank you.
@jordanthornton Жыл бұрын
Important moment of revelation, happy to have connected in what seems like a very timely moment for you - defend your hope.
@jordanthornton Жыл бұрын
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@helvete_ingres4717 Жыл бұрын
I remember every single story I wrote in English class in school was about a character who was dissociated tho I probably hadn't come across that word yet, always that description of being outside of oneself, disembodied and simply observing (sometimes straightforwardly, sometimes via a fantastic device like being a telepath who was has to drown out the thoughts of others else be overwhelmed). They were usually graded very well- they do say 'write what you know' after all . I also think I came to experience 'depersonalisation' which reads in description like the opposite experience but one I came to regard as the other side of the same coin
@jordanthornton Жыл бұрын
Took me some years to figure this out as well - I can relate to what you're sharing, thank you. Glad you found the information you needed, and wishing you well on your continued path.
@gabrielacarlton9781 Жыл бұрын
I love this Jordan, treat your body with respect and create a temple within ♥️
@tanyadreschel6040 Жыл бұрын
Thank you so very much for your channel, your work is sincerely helpful.
@jordanthornton Жыл бұрын
Tanya, thank you for doing your inner work - truly.
@bluejayonmyshoulder73836 ай бұрын
I’m so happy I found your channel .
@jordanthornton6 ай бұрын
Happy you're here!
@db9062 Жыл бұрын
This is good material. The body becoming ourselves means that surrender has to happen and the rigidity we carry melts into an attuning relationship built on love and respect, as you say. It’s the kind and nourishing relationship spoken to our bodies in the inner room of our hearts, building this skill so the language of soul in regards to our bodies becomes soothing and healing and ultimately changes over to an energetic narrative beyond the reach of the world and any cognitive structure, into an embodied presence of joy. But the beginning is always an inch by inch progress clunky and awkward to take this level of parental responsibility for our own flesh. This is what the apostle Paul writes about in the Book of Ephesians “No man hates his own flesh, but nourishes and cherishes it”. We’re all on a spectrum of this and where the quality of our relationship with our bodies are. I’ve noticed making progress in this department is the fundamental work of my whole life and the way I treat my body with love and respect is a 100% direct correlation with how I view love respect and relate to other people and the world around me. A book recommendation I have for this area that has helped me immensely, in addition to Lowen’s work, is called Rediscovering the lost body connection within Christian Spirituality: The missing Link for experiencing yourself in the whole body of Christ is a changing relationship to your own body. It’s by Edwin McMahon.
@jordanthornton Жыл бұрын
Appreciate your comment here, and thank you for the suggestion!
@keystomyheart7623 Жыл бұрын
Much needed, thank you, this is what I'm working on. I believe we are here for pleasure, passionately loving ourselves to give and receive pleasure in abundance through all the senses in accordance with the free will and freedom of others. When we disassociate we are not in a state of flow, I feel we morph into situations to best experience them, it should be a flow one archetype to another as we draw what we need in any moment. We get attached to things, labels, identities etc and we lose the experience in the moment striving to build off our idea of what we should be. I heard something beautiful the other day, we don't have a partner we experience our partner. We don't have children we experience them. How beautiful is that?
@chloeistre Жыл бұрын
"Flow one archetype to another as we draw what we need in any moment" - LOVE this, thanks!
@keystomyheart7623 Жыл бұрын
@@chloeistre ☺️🦋
@jordanthornton Жыл бұрын
Pleasure through embodiment, and pleasure through creation - in both work and play. Thank you for this beautiful comment.
@paulodigioia Жыл бұрын
Exactlyy
@maddy6566 Жыл бұрын
Thank you very much for this, I've been wokring with my angels recently from my own trauma, and my anxiety, this was lovely!
@jordanthornton Жыл бұрын
Glad that you've got the angels on your side - also recommend getting your feet into the earth and lifting weights. God loves gainz.
@elenanina Жыл бұрын
This topic touches me deeply. Each day I find myself spending a lot of energy creating safe internal space to confronting with my fragmented parts. Now I'm on the next level trying to prevent dissociation from happening in the first place, but it's extremely difficult to not be defensive against negative emotions. I found out that I have a very poor capacity to recieve uncomfortable feelings and I'm on my way to learn better. It gets really natural when I am able to welcome and process them, I feel free and creative and alive! Feeling emotions in my body is really empowering! My psychiatrist once told me that I should think about myself like ancient Greeks, body and soul can't exist without each other. They actually didn't even have the idea of a soul being separated from the body. If it wasn't for my body, I couldn't live! That's our body that allows us to experience the world! Thanks for your work. Wishing everybody a good healing journey
@jordanthornton Жыл бұрын
Elena, the holistic green view is a great perspective - make sure to develop a consistent exercise routine which feels inspiring also! Body work for body challenges 🌲
@elenanina Жыл бұрын
@@jordanthorntonI move my body doing workouts or dancing everyday for one hour at least! It definitively helped me a lot through my darkest period in the past, and it still is fundamental for my mental health. 🤸🏻♀️
@Drumlicker636 ай бұрын
I spent 20 years dissociating and had no idea until it got worse from smoking pot. I quit 5 years ago and thought I’d never stopped dissociating, not realizing that it’s something I’ve been doing for my entire life. When you said “behind the eyes” I felt like someone finally knew what I was going through. It is a defense mechanism and it needs to stop otherwise I cannot live my life enjoyably. Thank you for being someone who did the work and is sharing their findings. I always had a feeling most people deal with this in some minor level and I do believe a lot of it has to do with electronics.
@jordanthornton5 ай бұрын
Electronics certainly make it worse, I covered this in my video on internet addiction a few months back. Happy to have shared some of the process and healing - keep going, and get grounded above all else. Find a reason to inhabit your body and love that place.
@saberlivre Жыл бұрын
Thanks for this video, I really need to get back to my exercise routine. I tend to dissociate a lot and the fact that I have adhd doesn't help, either. People do find me weird, I've been told that I'm strange and even standoffish, when in fact I'm just dissociating. But yeah, guess I need to make an effort and just move my body a bit, thank you :)
@jordanthornton Жыл бұрын
Let me know how it goes - embodiment really is the key, Flavia.
@Graceunderfiire Жыл бұрын
Wow I just realized that this is what I did in my last relationship. I became a shell of myself and was then characterized as aloof and vapid because i was not fully present. I was in defense/hiding mode for fear of being judged in a negative light (expressing only a tiny part of myself) 😮 and then I ended up being judged anyway for not being complete in character. 😅 I am happy to hear that I do enjoy (am capable of) pleasure in my body the way you described which makes me feel like I’m not totally in this disassociated state all the time but I unfortunately disconnect when my relationships start to get turbulent. I wish I could maintain connectivity when in relationship with others the way I do when I am alone. Something about humans that makes them intimidating to me and makes me feel like I need to “cover up” or only show parts of myself that I believe they will approve of. I noticed that the more outwardly judgmental the personality is, the less I show up as my authentic self (whoever that is 😅).
@jordanthornton Жыл бұрын
Powerful realisations - glad to have supported your awareness here. Relational connectivity builds with effort and the right kind of partner, it sounds like you're well on the path, Sarah.
@chloeistre Жыл бұрын
For me, dissociation has led to occasionally arguing with other parts of me that don't want to do whatever it is that this version of me wants to do. I've learned to stop bullying myself and communicate with my inner world with more respect and compassion, for which I'm beyond grateful. Thank you for this video. It goes nicely with the self concept content I've been consuming. What do you think about self-hypnosis for creating a stronger sense of self? I'm considering it, but kind of nervous about the idea.
@chloeistre Жыл бұрын
Ha ha, I got first comment! About time. 😁
@jordanthornton Жыл бұрын
Chloe, thank you for your consistently engaged comments. I've unfortunately never placed much emphasis on self-hypnosis as commonly expressed. I'm into intentional practice and setting repeated intentions, but that's probably not what you're talking about?
@chloeistre Жыл бұрын
@@jordanthornton You're very welcome, it's the least I can do after all the hours you spend researching and recording these great ideas I don't find anywhere else. 😁 As for self-hypnosis, that's kind of what I thought it was, like intentionally changing the unconsious through a meditative-type state. Or maybe I'm wrong, I don't understand it very well.
@y_yy_2844Ай бұрын
If I'm understanding you right, it would seem that an issue like agoraphobia/acrophobia/kenophobia comes about because of a false projection of safety onto a place or person, such as the home, close family, the workplace, rather than that internal locus of safety being within our bodies and us properly identifying ourselves with our bodies, in turn allowing us to be safe in many different places and situations in the outer world. So the task is to realize we are safe not because of where we are externally but rather that we are within and identical to our bodies, which are safe. Reading Lowen's 'Betrayal of the Body" right now and he also discusses how normal people treat the bodies. They identify themselves with their bodies. Their bodies are dynamic due to the constant flux of impulses allowed to be expressed externally. Whereas the schizoid/schizophrenic/dissociative person has an outer armor and weak internal impulses rarely allowed to surface since the body is disidentified. Thank you again for your work, I am reading Lowen on your recommendation.
@jordanthorntonАй бұрын
Exceptionally high-quality share, I enjoyed reading your words. I defer to Lowen with his experience of working with these kinds of people, and it seems like you're on the right track too - thanks for this.
@healingnaturegirl333 Жыл бұрын
Will watch again & take a few notes. And you are so spot on with healing by getting in our bodies. It has helped my entire life. Yet, I can fall into old patterns when traumatic events have happened that takes me out of my self care routine. Hiking, belly dancing, yoga, dancing, swimming, art, etc. have been a saving grace. It is medicine, & I’ve given myself grace now, after learning to trust myself because of the habits I know I can practice again, to heal. And hopefully be able to learn to navigate the effects of stress when overwhelming events happen & make different choices that might preemptively avoid some of the trauma ( such as letting a partner back in that I know is not in my best interest). You mentioning the body as a temple, was a deep resonating feeling because I have always toyed with that line as a thing to study & understand. It feels like it’s taken on a authentic meaning, & to feel that feels like being on a deeper path to self love , & forgiveness & acceptance. So grateful for your words, vibe & sharing your gift. Thank you ✨⭐️✨
@jordanthornton Жыл бұрын
Truly beautifully written comment, I throughly enjoyed reading your words. Thank you.
@btlfilmmedia9514 Жыл бұрын
Dissociation is major symptom in any trauma it needs to talked about more
@jordanthornton Жыл бұрын
I agree - something that I'll likely keep returning to on this channel.
@angelicacroitoru49464 ай бұрын
I've been with 5 psycologist untill now and none addressed dissociation even if knew I've been trough sexual abuse at age of 3. With one of them I was fully dissociated and no help with it.
@fatadesculta Жыл бұрын
I’ve heard about dissociation as trauma response many times, but you put it so well in “understandable” words 🙏🏽
@jordanthornton Жыл бұрын
Natalie, this is a wonderful comment to receive - thank you. The language can be challenging to navigate, but understanding the 'defensive' element provides so much potential for new directions. Not a fixed fate, but something to be healed and dissolved.
@fatadesculta Жыл бұрын
@@jordanthornton yes, it requires life commitment (?) to constantly bring awareness into the present moment and chose to stay present with your body 🥲 I loved what you said about learning to truly fucking love your “flash”
@jordanthornton Жыл бұрын
@@fatadesculta Exactly! Beauty to be regained in our bodies. Wishing you well, Natalie.
@ABB14-11 Жыл бұрын
I like this because far too often we forget to be human is both body and soul rather than the soul being greater than the flesh. Reminds me of Theology of the Body
@jordanthornton Жыл бұрын
I read Christopher West’s book on TOB a few weeks ago funnily enough - I agree!
@the.kai.eros.experience Жыл бұрын
This changed my life. Thank you. You connected so many dots for me.
@jordanthornton Жыл бұрын
Kai, this means the world to me. Keep going, brother. Hope this channel helps you in this moment and your steps ahead.
@amandaschneikart3711 Жыл бұрын
I wholeheartedly agree!! I've been walking or running in the woods (barefoot a few times😉). Awesome video, 'twas a pleasure as always 💃
@jordanthornton Жыл бұрын
Love that! Barefoot moments are grounding... literally.
@lauradelafuente6173 Жыл бұрын
This was certainly potent to watch just an hour after walking out of a Donald Kalsched lecture! Divine timing! 😅 Thank you Jordan, this is very helpful.
@jordanthornton Жыл бұрын
Divine timing indeed - and we both know what Kalsched REALLY wants.
@avertingapathy3052 Жыл бұрын
Timely. The Power of Fun book aluded to the same. I'm convinced too that survival in today's world requires dissociation as one of the less harmful coping mechanisms at least in the short run. A balance between suppression and embodiment and integrarion. Kinda rough seeing how this is a somewhat common response to the changing environment and world. Would be interesting to hear where you draw the line between healthy coping and pathology.
@jordanthornton Жыл бұрын
That's a really good question, I think I'll screenshot this and potentially make a video about the line between healthy coping/adaptation and pathology. Really love the nuance possibility.
@bruverton Жыл бұрын
Great work Jordan! Just listed to animas anima and I finally have a better grasp on these mystical concepts. Thanks, Paul from London.
@jordanthornton Жыл бұрын
Paul, it’s my pleasure brother - got two more videos on anima and animus coming out next month for you to dive into also!
@PeaceLoveJoyWorld Жыл бұрын
Thank you so much, Jordan, for your thorough research. Your clear and concise delivery of your knowledge is refreshing. I appreciate your efforts enormously. ❤
@jordanthornton Жыл бұрын
Always doing my best to stay concise! Thank you.
@joanneg665 Жыл бұрын
This is incredible. ⭐️⭐️⭐️⭐️⭐️
@jordanthornton Жыл бұрын
Thank you!
@annijohnson6210 Жыл бұрын
Thank you so so much, Jordan. Yes, I have suffered decades with dissociation that feels to me like a sci-fi flick that shows a body in ghostly multiples stretching out infront of the body. Also, tunnel vision. Childhood trauma, raging mom that in the next moment says, “I love you.” Enmeshment. I had no self. I was baby doll. This is where I need to work: being in my body. Loving the real me - at 55. I wish I had learned when I was younger. Not as much awareness as now. No computer and internet until 1998.😂 It is good for some things, but I do read, too.💕 Mindfulness and meditation freak me out, because I’m afraid of inducing another “spiritual” experience. I had an intense one in 2009 that, after the actualizing event, lasted 18 mo.. I was so freaked out.
@jordanthornton Жыл бұрын
Glad to have supported your inner work with this video, sounds like you've learned much in your journey so far and wishing you the best with your next steps.
@michannepotgieter8891 Жыл бұрын
The ultimate love story. The loving touch of oneself to oneself by oneself for oneself. Ah yip.
@bluejayonmyshoulder73836 ай бұрын
I’ve disassociated since I was 7 years old. I thought I left it behind but realized that now at 27, I moved it into my romantic relationships
@jordanthornton6 ай бұрын
Awareness comes in waves - and I'm glad you're doing the patient work here.
@btlfilmmedia9514 Жыл бұрын
This is one your best videos for explaining how to return to being grounded and whole
@jordanthornton Жыл бұрын
Thank you, particularly pleased with this one too!
@awarenessconsciousness5934 Жыл бұрын
Very true! Wish you the joy inside and inner light .👍❤️🙏🏻
@jordanthornton Жыл бұрын
Thank you for taking the to comment, I hope this video has provided something valuable for you.
@inwonderland9842 Жыл бұрын
I was actually thinking today Jordan that I need to stop spending so much time online and start walking outside again.... Beginnings are so hard 🤦 Sometimes I wish I was religious, I would pray for the power to do it. 🌲
@chloeistre Жыл бұрын
Hang in there, you got this! I can relate to your feelings about prayer. I tried many faiths before I decided I can't know. It felt like a major let-down for a while. But, "any sufficiently advanced technology is indistinguishable from magic." (Clarke) I would say existence qualifies as sufficiently advanced. So there must be some ultimate source of life, and we are part of it. I ask for strength from the universe/source or my higher self, and I feel more grounded and intentional. I love walking outside, too, that's my music/meditation time. 😁🌲🎶
@inwonderland9842 Жыл бұрын
@@chloeistre what a beautiful comment. Thank you Chloe and enjoy your walks and music time! Happy at least one of us is keeping healthy these days. You are actually motivating me to get back to my routine. 🌲 When you ask the Universe next time, ask for double strength and mentally send half my way ☺️🙏
@jordanthornton Жыл бұрын
Couple of barefoot walks per week are still a staple for me - not all walks, but the literal grounding is powerful if you've got nature nearby. Have fun.
@otkk2022 Жыл бұрын
Oh my gosh,,, i was just thinking this. From childhood, they program us to dissasociate... to keep imagining and living in our fantasies w all the cartoons n shit. And now am 22 years old n i just learnt this,, self awareness comes from living IN YOUR BODY NOT YOUR MIND. And it actually makes you a better human to not live in ur head//made up situations but in ur present bodily experience. //I subscribed to ur channel bcoz i feel we on the same wavelength n ur actually speaking truth. Much love fom Kenya Jordan:)
@jordanthornton Жыл бұрын
Kenya, wonderful! It's shocking how we are 'programmed' as you say, I agree... but we can reclaim our bodies and get grounded. I find this hopeful, Christine.
@erburu Жыл бұрын
I feel lucky that I came upon your channel. I feel like I'm on a path, each day understanding something new about myself and the next step to take. I guess I still have a lot to learn as regards how to find pleasure in my body when I often escape it because of sensations that I unconsciously evaluate as uncomfortable and undesirable since I was a teenager.
@jordanthornton Жыл бұрын
Welcome aboard! I'm pleased to hear of your progress these days, keep going with your steps forwards, brother.
@ethomas2084 Жыл бұрын
I wonder if Dissociation is a protection response. I had it especially when I was a teenager. Like my friends, I tried drugs, hoping it would alleviate it. The alcohol and marijuana made it worse. and I've avoided those substances for a decade now. The friends I grew up with did not have dissociation and their experience was much worse. One friend died of alcoholism. Another became addicted to crack cocaine. Another friend became addicted to pills and committed suicide. Another friend committed suicide. Now, I wonder if my dissociation was a gift from my mind. To tell me something was not right. Now I am mentally healthy, married, in a job I mostly enjoy, though still sensitive to my surroundings and the world.
@jordanthornton Жыл бұрын
Exactly what I talk about in this video when unpacking the 'defence' element of dissociation - I agree, and I'm sorry to hear about some of the challenges you've faced. Keep going with your healing work.
@Chancey388 Жыл бұрын
Thanks for All the Help.
@jordanthornton Жыл бұрын
You're welcome, Chance. Keep going, brother.
@ranah3367 Жыл бұрын
I found this channel last week at the time of planning for my last day "months ago decided" but I thought No harm in a little delay. Your videos are the only thing I do beside sleeping since then lol. I believe I've reached the highest levels of dissociation "although I've lived my whole 21 life like this" .IDK how to articulate it but don't even Identify with myself anymore .I ask Qs that seem insane to ppl around me or any normally formed person : why I'm me specifically, not you or any other one/ what makes me "me". I feel prisoned inside this body and this reality. And Why to live this heavy life if Nobody else would share being "me" and only "I" will endure this pain and experience it. For what?....sounds insane right.. It all became meaningless and not worth it in my eyes..... I stopped even caring about fixing anything anymore .For years now I'm used to think I'm another person to give myself more of the not caring feeling and extra dissociation... IDK if this is a mental illness or has a psychological term, but this's making suic*de more of a relief as I already don't exist so why to face the world. I thought for a moment about getting your coaching however I assume to be a hopeless case and don't have the energy/willingness to give for a person I don't live as or even want to... On the outside I have it all and perceived as ungrateful/cursed/bewitched (which I think of considering lol) I was THE GIFTED child known in the whole city ,full of energy who sings, paints, write poetry since the age of 7 and always top in school. For years I tries not to collapse..But I lost myself &sadly that's it. Anyway I'm sorry to disturb you with this lengthy comment which apparently has no purpose ... Have a nice day
@jordanthornton Жыл бұрын
You are not disturbing me with a lengthy comment, I'm glad that you wrote this. I deeply relate to what you've shared here. It warms my heart to know that you're seeing the possibilities of self-healing and choosing life. I understand what you've shared - I was likewise trapped in the suicidal dissociation for many years, but this started to change when I made the single UNAPOLOGETIC self-commitment to devote three years to my self-healing. Single focus, nothing else mattered because I knew what would happen if I didn't make the effort. It ended up taking me a little under two years to dissolve 90-95% of the symptoms and discover my lust for life and purpose in this world. You can do this, Rana. Get the books and make the space.
@KiwikimNZ Жыл бұрын
Your comment bought tears to my eyes and bought my struggles, so similar to yours, flooding back. I understand everything your wrote, I get it and I have been in that place you describe. Many years I struggled to keep myself alive, it’s not that I wanted to die, I just couldn’t see the purpose anymore and I wanted to badly to escape my pain and confusion. It doesn’t matter how much people on the outside may think “but you have it all?” When you do not have the will and your joy has gone, you have nothing. Please know that the way you are feeling right now, in time can change. You are so young and you have so much ahead of you to experience and enjoy once you are able to find the right help and healing. I know it’s hard to find to energy to even try, but one foot in front of the other, little steps at a time and reach out and ask for help, you are so worth it. I look back to the days when I had planned and attempted the end to my suffering, I had given up all hope. Looking back at all of the blessings that have entered my life since and now knowing all of the wonderful things I experienced since I am so grateful that I chose to seek help and the work I have put into pulling myself out of that place. Please do not give up, there is always a solution and a way to experience well-being, it’s not easy but you can do it. Hugs to you and please know you are cared about by some old lady on the other side of the world. Xx kim New Zealand
@ranah3367 Жыл бұрын
@@KiwikimNZ Thank you for caring. Your kind words have touched my heart despite my current emotional numbness... I appreciate you sharing your experience and what you've gone through and I'm glad you got out of your dark place and doing well now... I never thought anyone could relate to or understand my scattered words ...from my place in Egypt I wish you all the happiness and joy the world can offer xoxo ♥️
@ranah3367 Жыл бұрын
@@jordanthornton Thank you for your kind reply. Honesty I have no desire in living my whole life out of touch with myself with no confidence in who I am. After spending years living in the shadow of other people brought me loads of frustration and self loathing My Confusion& dissociation are trapping me in a cycle of shame, worthlessness feeling Thank you once again,Jordan. your sincerity can be felt in each of your videos.. Please keep it up.
@jordanthornton Жыл бұрын
@@ranah3367 You're on the verge of breakthrough. I know it won't feel like it, but I've seen this state many times before and experienced it first-hand. Honour your giftedness and give yourself three years of healing intention... I promise things will start shining.
@amandaclawson7959 ай бұрын
Well said. Thank you.
@Jackel95 Жыл бұрын
Dude I'm so grateful to have found your video, thanks for reminding of all of this as I've been recently Re Associating after losing my mother to cancer. This is such great content thank you man 🙌🙏
@jordanthornton Жыл бұрын
Brother, I'm sorry to hear this. That's awful, and I'm glad that you're actively doing the work to move forward into a greater state of integration and strength. Happy to connect, you got this man.
@Jackel95 Жыл бұрын
@@jordanthornton Thank you man, I greatly appreciate that 🙌🔥🙏 Finally getting back to that connected state 🙏🙇♂️
@KiwikimNZ Жыл бұрын
I’m very sorry for your loss. It’s not easy to see and go on the journey with someone especially someone you love so very much. Sometimes we do not know how to deal with that grief and we can sink into that disassociated space as a way to survive. Hugs to you x
@gailaltschwager7377 Жыл бұрын
Thank you!
@jollywanka7666 Жыл бұрын
Thank you Jordan.
@jordanthornton Жыл бұрын
You are most welcome, Jolly!
@Estefania-rv6yc Жыл бұрын
Oh , man I wish I could afford a workshop with you... Okay thoughts feed back : playing an instrument ( even if it is the flute badly) can be a source of healing and grounding when times get hard. To all the women out there that get obsessed about a guy ( basically the possibility of receiving and giving romantic and sensual love) we should create a " club " where we simply go for walks and then give each other big hugs! Taking pilates again ( not just the gym) will help me as I am trying to grow out , of a traumatic romantic disillusion. As a highly sensitive person, after these recent emotional bruces, I can see how my mind distorts reality, there is a dissociation there. I can finally see it, because of the level of pain this break up has caused me. May we HEAL!!
@jordanthornton Жыл бұрын
Beautiful intentions, thank you for doing the work in realtime.
@shan1xxx5 ай бұрын
I have body dysmorphia, social anxiety and have been dissociating since I was a child. This is the FIRST time the message has really sunk in that it is ok to love your body/self and that is not the same as feeling grandiose about it, it’s not a selfish act. I really got caught on the idea that to be a healthy human I need to take responsibility and sever connection to my internal/external need for validation/care and the pain/confusion it causes me. What you’re saying is that it’s ok to love ourselves and that is needed. It’s not a selfish act. I don’t need to continue to protect myself. Why have I never heard it in this way 😂 thank you
@jordanthornton5 ай бұрын
Things are getting better, you got this. Appreciate you sharing some of your story here.
@heidirachaelpieterse5109 Жыл бұрын
"took one look at my shirtless Body and realised that I was sick in the mind and sick in the body." I completely relate to this. My awakening rocoess started wit this very realisation. "look at your Body. This didn't just happen. You did it to your body, over time and over and over again , and then lied about it." you're not that fat...you are perfect as you are... I created bubbles of delusion in my mind to escape the reality that I'd made." enough " I said. I decided to acknowledge the state of my overfed and under-exercised body. I cried, mourned the loss of my beauty and vitality. Then I started to ask quesitons. Why was this an issue at all? Surely being healthy should be a natural thing? If you are of healthy mind... And then I started to quesiton the health of my mind. I then started to notice my food addiction. Which I noticed came from my mother Which I noticed came from an entire generation of women in denial about their toxic relationship to their food and their bodies. Complete mind f. I decided to begin work on my mental health and the weight sorted itself out. I learned that food is for nutrition never for guilt. I learned that obsession can and will occupy all your time, thought process and energy. I learned that having a healthy Body is incredibly important if you want to be balanced in the mind. In fact, it was all created this way. Use your eyes, see the body. Are you treating it well? Yes? Then you are conscious of what your Body needs and it will reward you for it by being healthy strong balanced of hormones. No? Start asking why. Are you addicted to food? Probably have underlying depression issues. I'm so glad you shared this abiut yourself thank you. I try share my story aswell I feel that I can really help alot of women still stuck in that same trap that had me for awhile. But i often sense distaste or outright disgust in most people I share this story with. Why is that, do you think?
@maciejsiedziako680 Жыл бұрын
I do like that you curse sometimes. It really brings the point home.
@jordanthornton Жыл бұрын
Sometime it's necessary - fuck yeah hahah
@shelbyazure420111 ай бұрын
WOW - loved this video. Thank you so much for the book recommendations. THis was a great video!! :)
@jordanthornton11 ай бұрын
You're so welcome! Make sure to get those books ASAP!
@uJarLorDxCa Жыл бұрын
Thanks Jordan!
@jordanthornton Жыл бұрын
You are most welcome!
@yasmenebadereldin Жыл бұрын
Essay comment delivery for Jordan ✉️ more like this actually haha 📦 Such a great video🌙 I like how you pointed out this Mass dissociation we are all in. As the years go by it gets more and more visible if you only “looked up”. And the scary part is, even if someone isn’t glued to a screen you can see they aren’t really there. I learned about dissociation a few years ago and it gave me peace naming my experience. As a child, I felt like the world wasn’t “real” as if everything was a dream. And my internal imaginative world was more my reality. I would tell people this and they would look at me like I am crazy 😂 not to mention I had horrible eye sight. Couldn’t even see a few inches In front of me. So the world actually looked hazey. I think it works for a while until you grow older and have to BE in the world to take care of your needs. Similar to you, I was very much into video games, because they gave me that sense of Vitality. I would choose characters that were daring, lone wolfs who were CAPABLE. Who had influence over their circumstances. Could handle the outer world with Grace. I think that’s what it was. I felt I had no influence…incapable. Unless I was in a game or my carefully constructed world. And the more you dissociate the more desensitized you become. I started to notice, I couldn’t even enjoy food anymore…the games or anything. Our culture says you need a bigger, better thing to stimulate you. On contrary, we need to learn to feel again. I totally agree with you on the importance of grounding yourself in this body. I loved your point about it being a gift to experience this form. I mean we can directly move things, make things, change things in such a dense plane. How sick is that 🤩 But I do want to mention, on that point to learning to feel again. That’s only going to happen when we trust ourselves to navigate the outer world. And we can’t build trust if we don’t make contact. Because soon your inner rich world will become as dull as the real one, except this time it will feel like betrayal. Everyone is different. But the way out of my dissociation was competence. For someone else it may be connection, expression, or anything else that’ll coherence them to step out of themselves. But I realized, the only way the world will feel ok to me is if I am Competent. Which is quite poetic actually, because to become competent you have to first make peace with your incompetence (which is why I dissociated) Your powerlessness at the start of something. So I took on experiences, jobs, adventures, that challenged my comfort level and nothing but trust for myself came from it. I was ok. And life was beautiful. The little moments still get me sometimes. Start bawling out of no where from the site of a pretty flower or smile of a stranger. But I’d rather be like that than feel nothing. ALSO I cannot deny the healing power of children. They are the embodiment of presence. And I have to admit, spending my entire life around them has showed me life is beautiful if you don’t fear it 🦋 Thank you once again 🙏🏻
@jordanthornton Жыл бұрын
I can relate so much to your childhood experience of awful eyesight (didn't get glasses until age 10 and they were already -3.50, not sure how it didn't get picked up) + escape into the imaginal. Took me until I was 22 to learn that 'dissociation' was even a thing - amazing how it wasn't in my awareness. Your quote: "But I realized, the only way the world will feel ok to me is if I am Competent. Which is quite poetic actually, because to become competent you have to first make peace with your incompetence (which is why I dissociated) Your powerlessness at the start of something. " - FUCKING EXCELLENT. It's almost like you should be a full-time thinker and creator or something, Yasmene. Truly loved this comment, read it twice. Might read it a third.
@SuperScre4m Жыл бұрын
Hello! I want to somehow become involved in helping people better understand and navigate their lives so they may achieve more happiness in their lives but I have no idea where to begin with this "line of work". Whenever I get a chance to be there for someone and help them in a meaningful way, it sets my soul on fire and is the most fulfilling experience I can find in life and I so desperately wish i could find a way to do more of this for people. Thanks for your amazing work!
@jordanthornton Жыл бұрын
I understand what you're asking - I recommend checking out some of my videos and finding reading suggestions which will support you in gaining the 'skillset' and 'professional capacity' to make your intention a full-time reality. Highly recommend reading some of the humanistic psychologists like John Rowan (Ordinary Ecstasy) and Carl Rogers (Client Centred Therapy) - will give you a good taste for this line of work.
@SuperScre4m Жыл бұрын
@@jordanthornton tyvm! :) you are wonderful
@celinpiotrowsky259 Жыл бұрын
So I understand your argument on how to get back the feeling of your body, having a body and I actually recently had some situations where I stopped and felt "hey, these legs are mine"... and you said "if you truly love yourself". Well what if I don't (or don't yet) love myself? Because this "love" is still burdened with a lot of sadness. Thank you for taking the time to read this, if you did.
@celinpiotrowsky259 Жыл бұрын
Nvm, I found your Vid on Selflove 🖤
@missmagillicutty6721 Жыл бұрын
Thank you🤗
@jordanthornton Жыл бұрын
No problem 🌲
@incanthatus8182 Жыл бұрын
Thank you so much for addressing our questions 😄 So far, getting back into our body has been very challenging. We keep getting very dysregulated when we try doing simple exercises like saying "this is my hand" and lightly tapping it. It feels terrifying to try claiming this body as our own after so much has happened to it. But our partner has a cute habit of addressing different body parts when we're cuddling like "Hi leg" *hugs leg*, or putting their hand on our body when we're exercising, to help us notice which muscles we're using. It feels less threatening with them 👀
@jordanthornton Жыл бұрын
Thank you for asking the question - and I’m glad this helped. I’m sorry that you’re facing difficulties, but glad that you have support. Finding a way to consistently train hard in a way that anchors full bodily presence seems to be the next step - sensory work and reducing overwhelm being a wonderful foundation, the reclaiming will feel most authentic in expressing via more enjoyable physical exertion (it gets safer as your progress, building muscle in exposure) 🌲
@incanthatus8182 Жыл бұрын
@@jordanthornton Yes, we've already noticed that we feel more confident about knowing how we're moving when we exercise 😄 it's still a long way to go to being truly embodied 😅 But there's definitely progress
@jordanthornton Жыл бұрын
@@incanthatus8182 Love hearing this, thank you for doing your work and once more for prompting this important discussion!
@hannahranford5593 Жыл бұрын
Hi Jordan, I've recently found your channel. I've really liked the content and how you communicate your information.
@jordanthornton Жыл бұрын
Welcome aboard! Make sure to check out the books! 🌲
@maplenook Жыл бұрын
Think of all the problems that would vanish if people had to get back to producing their own food.
@jordanthornton Жыл бұрын
Many beautiful elements of modern living, like this conversation you and I are having, but I agree that we have lost our connection to the land (generally speaking) - and this would have healing impact.
@albenoit4378 Жыл бұрын
If only I had known about this at 16 and not 15 years later lol
@jordanthornton Жыл бұрын
I feel exactly the same hahaha - nonetheless, hope this helps.
@mehenra485 Жыл бұрын
Interesting, just yesterday i tried to internalise the mantra "above all else the sanctity of the body". Nowerdays i get lost in what i presume is very meaningful work, but in the process i tend to forget to eat or to sleep, that has taken a toll on me where i had some kind of pain in the throat area and upper torso, then i had to rest for a few days and couldn't do anything. So after all it wasn't even productuve. It seems just so hard to disengage from a line of thought, when the thought seems so important, that is definitely something i have to work on.
@jordanthornton Жыл бұрын
Likewise sometimes forget to eat when involved in the process - I can relate. It's about building confidence that the 'line of thought' will not disappear - post it notes can be useful to leave 'anchors' for us to tap back into, for example. Wishing you well.
@mehenra485 Жыл бұрын
@@jordanthornton Thank you, i will try it out.
@romadabos4534 Жыл бұрын
Can you do a video on the collective boredom , apathy , and screen adiction . Thanks.
@jordanthornton Жыл бұрын
Potentially, yes! Thank you for asking.
@gonnabapro Жыл бұрын
Can you speak about what if you’re afraid to be embodied? How do you gently ease into say a physical movement practice without forcing your system and overriding the fear?
@jordanthornton Жыл бұрын
Screenshotted, and I will absolutely do my best. Wishing you well in the meantime.
@gonnabapro4 ай бұрын
@@jordanthorntondid you ever address this in a video? Also wondering if you recommend a certain amount of physical exercise daily or weekly or if it doesn’t matter?
@jordanthornton4 ай бұрын
@@gonnabapro Yes, it's episode 81/500 - released July 2023. Went back and took a look, check out the video and I appreciate you following up 11 months later. Hope this one helps.
@gonnabapro4 ай бұрын
@@jordanthornton how do I find that episode? What’s it called? 81/500?
@jordanthornton4 ай бұрын
@@gonnabapro I’m Scared Of My Own Body & Feel Anxious All The Time - Inner Work Library [81/500]
@stickylolly Жыл бұрын
I've recovered from complete disasotiation to find myself completely disasotiated on other levels.... Substance addiction sex addiction, obese, disconnected from everyone and everything... Now not so much but still... Still not there 😞... Can you be disconnected in other dimensions as well as this place at the same time?... Many thanks Monica
@jordanthornton Жыл бұрын
Keep working on this, it sounds like you've learned many things so far and integration does take time. Patient grounding, Monica.
@stickylolly Жыл бұрын
@@jordanthornton I've learned alot... Guided to your channel with no doubt... Your videos have helped me lots I'm going to slowly absorb them... Ordered Spiritual Emergency looking forward to moving a little more forward with new knowledge.. Many thanks to you
@jordanthornton Жыл бұрын
@@stickylolly Excellent book - enjoy! Many more videos on the way.
@azona3633 Жыл бұрын
Hi I have a question Does dissociative disordar cause memory loss? I tend to not remember my childhood at all due to childhood truma
@jordanthornton Жыл бұрын
Yes, this is a common experience for people - to varying degrees. I'm sorry to hear this, and wish you well with your healing - truly.
@tnijoo5109 Жыл бұрын
Dissociation seems a lot like alexithymia. Healthy Gamer had a good video about alexithymia. Maybe they kind of go together.
@jordanthornton Жыл бұрын
Interesting - I'll have to check this out!
@jamiebirtles-crute5388 Жыл бұрын
Can you put up a list of all the top 50-100 books to read for inner work? That would be extremely helpful :-)
@jordanthornton Жыл бұрын
Absolutely, and I already have lol Look back on this channel, I've got a series of 52 episodes (Inner Work Essentials) which took me years to make available for free on this channel. Link is in the description.
@beatrice62096 ай бұрын
I believe I lived dissociated for a very long time due to my trauma (extremely dark one), and at one point I had the so called "out of body" experience, which at that age and being an atheist, I took it as a bad joke of my mind. I wanna know your opinion on this. How would you call it? Mainly because you don't really blend the spiritual/metaphysical into your videos, but after studying a bit the subject I struggle to see normal or even possible to become so dissociated that you can see yourself (your own body) from an external perspective.
@jordanthornton6 ай бұрын
I'm sorry to hear this, and get what you're saying. You'll get a lot from a book like Trauma And The Soul by Donald Kalsched. It speaks into this exact issue very accurately.
@beatrice62096 ай бұрын
@@jordanthornton I know. I did started the book but I didn't get to finish it. I did wanted to know your perspective on it... Mainly because you've mentioned you had your trauma as well. I like a more "abused to abused" type of conversation rather than a Harvard academic and a low class abused individual. If you know what I mean... Thanks for replying though.
@dianevierra781 Жыл бұрын
I'm not sure if this quite meets the criteria for questions, but here it is:Do you believe that a person could genuinely be born evil? Would you consider it naive or foolish to attempt to heal, for example, a psychopath through these methods?
@dorefromDetroit Жыл бұрын
Please go read or listen to kzbin.info/www/bejne/m4avgGCBq7OVqKM
@dorefromDetroit Жыл бұрын
Robert Sapolsky Stanford U has interesting perspectives on crime and Punishment
@jordanthornton Жыл бұрын
I'm not sure if I am the person to answer this question, but I've screenshotted your comment and will potentially return to this if I have any valuable insights. Got some ideas, but maybe not enough for a full video. Will have a think, Diane.
@ckatt3524 ай бұрын
Any thoughts on fainting /psychogenic non-epileptic seizures? I know they're thrown in with the dissociation diagnose. But i must say they're to very different experiences. I suffer greatly from this and haven't found the right therapy to help me. Maybe you have a different take on it, that I haven't heard before. I know that jung fainted alot and maybe he wrote about it?
@jordanthornton4 ай бұрын
Sadly don’t have much here to offer you, but I wish you well in your search - welcome to the channel also 🌲
@ckatt3524 ай бұрын
@@jordanthornton thanks for responding 😊
@HH-1111 Жыл бұрын
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@jordanthornton Жыл бұрын
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@rinsung75196 ай бұрын
Hey jordan, Do you have any suggestions for a likely neurodivergent person who has a really disruptive time with eye contact and masking ?
@jordanthornton6 ай бұрын
I wouldn’t be the person to give great advice on this, unfortunately. I’m wishing you the best nonetheless - keep at it.