Health Benefits of Seed Oils | Fatty Liver Disease Study | Educational Video | Layne Norton PhD

[@ChrisHargrave23]

Don’t lose hope that this won’t change someone’s mind. I entered into my “get healthy” period of adulthood via the keto/paleo route, so my information diet was firmly in the anti veg oil camp. I shared all these same “arguments” for years until I had been at it long enough to listen to some of the other voices in the room. Videos like yours have made a huge impact on how I process information now. Thanks man!

[@sbsnate2312]

Same here, I was leaning heavily into the Intermittent Fasting / Anti Carbs cult until I found Layne and Gil Carvalho and actually understood how nutrition works.

[@applerunner1184]

@@sbsnate2312 yep - me too! I feel that I have been lied too by these people. Thanks biolayne and nutrition made simple!

[@ChrisHargrave23]

@@sbsnate2312 Good shit. Looking back at it, the diet cult culture basically made me orthorexic for a time. So damn glad I wised up.

[@markpalmer5311]

What Chris said! Ditto! Thank you!

[@faelanae]

@@sbsnate2312 me five! Some wonderful person in an IF Discord kept trying to push a lot of us toward actual research and away from the cult mentality (Dr. Norton's video about the autophagy paper certainly gave parts of Discord and Reddit the vapors!). I'm so grateful to that guy

[@KJET549]

LN doesn’t get anywhere near enough credit for this kind of content.

[@paddy3622]

which i kinda like. people want to stick to their echo chambers. they don't want to hear anything contradictory. let them stay in their silos.

[@DragoNate]

I think what people who are against the seed oils need to think about is 1) this study doesn't prove or even suggest that seed oils are "good" for you - it shows they have positive effects with 1 thing. 2) think about the _source_ of the omega 6's - it's not ONLY found in seeds or whatever other "bad" things, it can be found in what you deem to be healthy foods too. 3) remember the "real problem" with omega 6 is not the omega 6 itself but rather the ratio of omega 6 to omega 3 (maybe 9 too idk i'm not a scientist, just trying to remind people of what I've seen/heard to hopefully avoid foolish rage-fueled arguments) and that having a lower amount of 6 vs 3 is supposed to be "better"

[@Theo5555]

‘ Doctor ’ Berg is going crazy…he faints while watching this video

[@ca11iope]

RFK Jr too

[@shanegoins9307]

Great Video, Thanks for the content during my lunch Layne!

[@victorcs_]

Dr. Gil from nutrition made simple have some videos with many others studies about seed oils.

[@jeffreyjohnson7359]

He's one of the best, along with Layne, Brad Stanfield, Simon Hill, Physionic, Peter Attia, and a few others.

[@marcdaniels9079]

@@jeffreyjohnson7359 PLEASE don’t put Attia in the same category as NMS. 😮 He is a grifter who makes ridiculous exaggerated claims.

[@jeffreyjohnson7359]

@@marcdaniels9079 Gil put him in his Top Ten Nutrition Social Media Sites video. Along with Layne, Brad, Simon, Tom Dayspring, Kevin Hall, Nicola Guess, Red Pen Reviews, Deirdre Tobias, and Sigma Nutrition. I agree, I've learned a lot from Attia, although I don't agree with everything. And it hasn't cost me anything.

[@Dystopia-s7y]

@@marcdaniels9079 why? Both are awesome, science based, highly credentialed educators.

[@marchforward2011]

@@marcdaniels9079Attia? A Grifter? 😂😂😂😂😂😂

[@smilodon92]

Doing crazy work Dr. Norton!

[@EFontanezX20]

HUMAN RANDOMIZED CONTROL TRIALS

[@NeuronIron]

for teh algorithm

[@Dan14833]

Think this hammers home the idea that we are simply consuming too many calories and the question is how do you effectively change the behavior of a population that is over-consuming. I would advocate banning advertising of foods that are high in calories and low in satiation. Empowering individuals to stick with their dieting without the constant temptation created by the billions spent to foods that should be rare treats.

[@arvidlystnur4827]

Total agreement with you!

[@chrisbell8418]

Seed Oils are like firefighters. They are at the scene of the fire but not the problem. The problem is that they are often found In hyperpalatable foods. Years ago my brother and I interviewed Stephen Phinney, the keto king that most people based their research in keto on. He told us seed oils were no different than any other fat and not an issue on keto. I thought he was mistaken and just didn’t know the “new” info, but now I realize there has been a ton of information on them for years. I have no desire or reason to ever consume them however in talking to really smart people like Alan Flanagan, and Layne, I don’t think we need to worry about them if they are on your steak or in your salad. Worry about them in Oreos.

[@itzakehrenberg3449]

I have seen several videos in which Stephen Phinney warned people to stay off seed oils.

[@jaghad]

​@@itzakehrenberg3449 I agree with you. I've seen many videos with him. He even has a chart showing this.

[@HAL-zx1bw]

Please do the seed oils linked to colon cancer that just came out next!

[@Parker_Miller_M.S.]

Ultraprocessed foods low in fiber may increase risk of colorectal cancer, but the oils themselves do not have such evidence.

[@MorningCoffee252]

yes! keep telling the truth

[@ПетрПетров-ю9д9ч]

I use mustard oil on a low-carb diet, it contains a lot of alpha-linolenic acid. In Russia, mustard varieties with a low content of erucic acid and even without it at all have been bred. And also with an oleic acid content reaching 50% of all fatty acids. This is almost like olive oil at a dollar per liter

[@QuentinStyger]

I was anti-seed oil cult and this video changed my mind on seed oil consumption. I would like to see an analysis of seed oil v coconut oil for the same outcomes.

[@andream9977]

The episode I’ve been waiting for! There’s a whole industry on trying to avoid Pufa’s!

[@vzssb782]

Great vid as usual Just want to point out in case anyone else is confused; Layne mistakenly said "alpha linoleic acid" a couple times in the first half of this video. "Alpha linoleic acid" does not exist, and I'm sure he meant "linoleic acid", which is the predominant Omega-6 PUFA found in seed oils. He even correctly says "linoleic acid" at a later point in this video. This is just a slip of the tongue, accidentally combining "linoleic acid" with "alpha linolenic acid", which is an Omega-3 PUFA found in some plant foods, including canola oil ;)

[@ca11iope]

Maybe he just mispronounced alpha-linolenic

[@cristinaj2504]

Love this, thank you.

[@gnomenorthofthewall]

What is your take on intestines cancer and omega6? I've read that if omega6 and omega3 levels are not in balance, high omega6 levels may increase the risk of cancer

[@DILFDylF]

Layne, next time please review the recent study on FUPAs for us. I haven't come to a decision on them yet.

[@Julia-de3no]

Awesome video! Thank you

[@edwardguy6048]

The anti-seed oil people never cite anything to why they’re bad….they just say(unequivocally) they’re bad!!!! This is why I go to Layne!

[@daysoftheboo]

Years ago when I was vegetarian in the majority of my fat came from nuts especially peanut butter Even though my diet wasn't exactly healthy I had endless energy , then in 2018 when I try to low-carb diet and I ate so much animal fat and yes I broke my vegetarianism The next year I felt like garbage like a big giant truck fell on top of me and I was suffering, I went to the doctor did blood work and my doctor said your liver enzymes are too damn high you need to bring them down,, she didn't tell me how to bring them down she just told me that's really really bad so years later here today My liver enzymes finally went down when I went back to eating more plant-based but a much more healthier balanced diet compared to what I was doing before but the low-carb diet was one of my biggest regrets I don't even know why I did it I was desperate I guess but I hated eating that way the whole time,, we do crazy shit when we're desperate

[@DragoNate]

what kind of low-carb diet?

[@daysoftheboo]

@DragoNate it doesn't matter because all low-carb diets are so miserable and disgusting and boring to me,, if it's true that you should enjoy the diet you're doing then low-carb diet was like being sodomized over and over and over again and I hate it every second of it I've done a lot of stupid things in my life but a low-carb diet was at the TOP OF MY LIST OF ONE OF THE STUPIDEST THINGS I'VE EVER DONE!!!

[@daysoftheboo]

@DragoNate I foocking love eating CARBSSSS!!!! and if that offends Your ANTI-CARB CARB PHOBIC feelings oh well too bad so sad!!!

[@jaghad]

​@@daysoftheboo You are so misinformed it is sad. Go look into professor Thomas Seyfried Boston College and you will realize that humans preferred state is probably ketosis. Not out of choice, but out of reality. Also go listen to Miki Ben Dor on why humans are hypercarnivores. You'll realize quite fast that humans are hunter gatherers. We ate mostly meat and fat from large ruminant animals. This is how humans have evolved and if you believe in evolution your cells want this not some carbs. Lastly, go listen to Bart Kay and you'll realize that Layne Norton hasn't got a clue what thermodynamics is. But, you do you.

[@jamesbarksdale978]

Gil Carvalho made a video covering numerous studies on seed oils, which showed basically the same thing, that they do not have a detrimental effect on one's health. I'm still not sold completely, but the more I hear things like your video I have to the be willing to reconsider.

[@Quantish]

Layne, your tireless work us greatly appreciated. I for one love the way you analyse, your scientific rigor and honesty. Extra kudos for not being overly polite but actually telling it as it is based on available scientific knowledge. Regarding the anti seed oil cultish people, who gives a damn about that crowd? If they want to stick to saturated fats only that's just fine. More seed oils for us 💪🏼 Again thank you for the great content you keep putting up, it's such a great time for the layman to be alive. Cheers mate

[@thescentsofme]

so basically nothing is unhealthy. and yet we get sicker and sicker, interesting… my grandparents for example… they never overate (so it can’t be cuz of excess calories), never drank alcohol, prepackaged food, … etc. they had their own garden with fresh fruits and veggies. so they were moving around a lot too (slow steady exercise) but they did eat sugar (in home baked stuff), seed oils, … etc. what made them sick if these aren’t bad? simply age? my ass…

[@Dave-lx3vt]

When you said "but big food" i thought for a second you were going to blame potatoes.😂

[@bripro77]

RFK jr head is exploding right now.

[@tryptamigo]

all his acolytes will show up in the comments soon. even if you knew nothing about the science on canola oil, if you think canola oil is bad for you, at some point you must notice that the other people who think the same are MAGA anti-vaxer space laser flat earth carnivore-dieting cholesterol deniers. that should be reason enough to doubt the position and look for real evidence.

[@applerunner1184]

@@bripro77 that worm won’t stand a chance!

[@mricecream-clashofclans]

@@bripro77 RFK Jr main argument against seed oils is how they're made, not entirely that they're unhealthy for you. Chemically processed seed oils contain hexane and bleach to make. He's saying that's bad for you. No one is saying sunflowers, corn, soybeans etc are bad for you.

[@bripro77]

@@mricecream-clashofclans Not true at all. Plenty of interviews about him complaining about omegas 6's and claiming its one of the unhealthtly ingredients. You guys bend over backwards to defend him. He's lawyer and a politican. He'll say something then deny it later.

[@mricecream-clashofclans]

@bripro77 I'm not defending him. Simply said one of the reasons he doesn't like them is how they're made.

[@livephysiology]

It's interesting to hear the term "anti-seed oil religion" as it makes on wonder how many other religions exist in the nutritional science community.

[@Reversed82]

i'd argue that any group of people in that community could be called a "religion" if people refuse to hear out/take into account evidence that doesn't fit their personal preference.

[@marcdaniels9079]

All of them who just base their beliefs on zero or little or dubious evidence…. So all the extreme good tribes

[@MortenAbildgaard-h2z]

I like watching them fight, I put This One on "ALGORITHM!" & "RANDOMIZED CONTROLLED TRIALS" Cult.

[@thiago.assumpcao]

Brutal and spot on a usual. Evidence is quite clear seed oils are better than saturated fat for metabolic health. I think there is one point worth mentioning. If we consume seed oils in the form of cake, deserts, chips and cookies it comes along with processed carbs, hyperpalatable foods with high caloric density and low satiety per calorie. They are way too easy to overeat, hard to moderate and hard to quit. I think ultra processed foods and junk food are the main cause of the obesity pandemic.

[@alexhansen2102]

Whole food is best, without a doubt. But that doesn't mean that a processed food like seed oils is necessarily bad for you.

[@clarkeduggan]

thanks

[@applerunner1184]

Thanks for calling out the anti-Seed oil crazies! They dont like it when the facts don’t agree with their agenda and twist themselves in knots trying to explain it!

[@strategicsage7694]

BUT BIG FOOD!!

[@MrWingiii]

regardless…look up how seed oils are made…then come back to me.

[@Teo_live]

@@MrWingiii That is an app3al to nature fa11acy though. We should not care how scary things look being made, all that matters is how it affects the body.

[@rothock]

@@MrWingiiihave you opened up the meat in a mussel and saw what it looks like? I eat the mussel based on the taste and nutritional profile and forgo how it looks inside the flesh. Just like I’m not interested how something is made but how my body uses it.

[@tinyjungle_]

​@MrWingiii 😂🙃🤣

[@ChairBear56]

Paul Saladino, your move😉

[@SullivanKelly85]

Jay Feldman's reply will be more interesting. It should be very easy for him to debunk. Stay tuned.

[@ChairBear56]

@ Will do👌

[@marchforward2011]

@@SullivanKelly85you mean the self proclaimed ‘indie health researcher’? 😂😂😂😂. I’ll take a guy with a phd over a guy with ‘a passion for health’. ANY DAY OF THE WEEK!!!

[@LL-hs4jo]

A guy with a PHD means zero 😂 They will always just sway towards their own bias. A few years ago Layne said BCAA's we're valuable (When he sold them). Everyone started to debunk them so he then said they have no use in bodybuilding. Follow what suits your lifestyle. End of the day. Your still gonna d-i-e. Would rather live happy than being miserable everyday carrying around scales and weighing every little gram of oats....

[@johntravis7304]

@8:15 oh thank you for clarifying your close mindedness. hopefully this guy is removed from my algorithim soon.

[@naveensanders4293]

@biolayne GOAT !

[@santeenl]

Maybe they are good for liver fat, but I eat reduced PUFAS because of inflamation.

[@Greg_Chock]

He also mentioned studies showing PUFAs do not increase system inflammation.

[@mricecream-clashofclans]

I think most “anti seed oil” people argue that seed oils aren’t bad, but it’s how they’re made that makes them bad. Mechanical process for making seed oils is not considered bad, but the chemical process in which they are would be considered bad. Hexane, which is a hazardous gas, is used in the process and they say it’s evaporated out, but the FDA doesn’t actually test for hexane residue. Later in the process the oil is bleached to make it clear. So hexane and bleach are the big reasons anti seed oil people avoid seed oils.

[@mricecream-clashofclans]

No one is arguing that sunflower, corn, soybean etc seeds are bad for you. It’s why extra virgin olive oil is popular. It’s typically cold pressed rather than chemically made.

[@teamtomahawk5901]

How were the seed oils prepared and served? Were they in pills and not cooked? If so, then they were not served in the manner in which they cause the most damage. In other words, were they fried? If not, then nothing in this study means anything.

[@cantstandya157]

Yep, this is the problem: Layne will say it's nitpicking to ask for an RCT with oxidized omega-6 vs. fresh; I think it would be unethical. I understand nitpicking can be annoying, but it is literally how science improves incrementally.

Actually it doesn't matter :-) if you want more context you can search on KZbin for info.

[@paddy3622]

Layne should have Bobby Parrish on from FlavCity. He's one of those guys who is crazy about seed oils.

[@MrWingiii]

bobby the zest king

[@SullivanKelly85]

If we're not to believe in mechanistic data and rodent studies then I'll wait until Layne designs a 25 year RCT on seed oil/PUFA consumption😂

[@Parker_Miller_M.S.]

Why is that necessary? Also it'll never happen. Cohorts consistently show health benefits to unsaturated fat used in place of saturated fat. RCTs also show reduced heart disease and no risk for cancer.

[@Dr.MikeGranato]

I see your little “seed oils aren’t harmful” and raise you one “high cholesterol and triglyceride levels are good”

[@itzakehrenberg3449]

Who paid for this "study"? Unilever? Lol!

[@WholeCosmos]

FOR the ALGORITHm!! in the Red corner! and in the BLue corner! lets do a science ring fight LOL

[@VernCrisler]

Another comment Layne wont read -- for the algo.

[@noell8460]

Have you got any vids on Omega 3's and 6's and the benefits etc,

[@Greg_Chock]

He mentions it briefly in this vid that PUFA seed oils, which are high in Omega 6 ratio, are not detrimental and can be beneficial in an energy deficit diet

[@MortenAbildgaard-h2z]

One Variable seems almost everyone's missing here is the Quality of a Product. As if All Products flow out of mount Olympus, purest of the pure, untainted Manna of the Gods

[@monstrauss4604]

That is super fascinating-I wonder how this would correspond to something I read (on CNN of all places, of course) about Omega-6s impact on cancer/cancer treatment or something to that effect? If I could remember the article name I would link it

[@Parker_Miller_M.S.]

Omega 6 linoleic acid, at least per a 2021 meta-analysis of 19 cohort studies by Kim et al containing over 1 million people, actually suggests polyunsaturated fats reduce cancer mortality in a dose dependent manner. There is otherwise no significant effect of omega 6 itself independent of obesity or ultra-processed foods increasing cancer risk (Hanson et al 2020; Ederer et al 1971).

[@NewEnglandInSeattle]

Uh oh! RFK Jr. and conspiracy cult are going to come after you. 😂

[@lucaslouzada44]

The main argument is that oxidation doesn’t necessarily occur during RCT because they’re not long enough. Interestingly enough they can’t come up with a sound hypothesis to be tested, always arguing up on a new “ad hoc” thought experiment…

[@Parker_Miller_M.S.]

The LA veterans administration hospital study an 8 year long double blind RCT isn't long enough? The Finnish mental hospital study a 12 year randomized crossover trial isn't long enough?

[@marcdaniels9079]

Layne Norton, Nutrition made Simple, Nourished by Science. The 3 pillars of YT nutrition truth So sad that there are still people trotting out anti seed oil nonsense. NMS. did a great video on seed oils. Check it out.

[@Proudarse]

Nutrition made simple?

[@brucejensen3081]

I cook with 10W-30 synthetic engine oil. Has to be healthier than those seed oils. Like has a high smoke point

[@Parker_Miller_M.S.]

Bruh, what?

[@pietbiertappertje4529]

Challenge taken: Tell us how babies are made, and make it sound scary.

[@knutevids]

FTA

[@suppbeastpod]

Neal Spruce agrees

[@coolcatsguitars]

I quit seed oils and i am not missing out on anything. and just my own results are after going on a carnivore type diet, I have not had a case of swollen knees or joints, and its been a regular thing for me for 25 years because i used to eat anything and everything. was it the seed oils causing my problem? I dont know but i sure dont miss it

[@theswoletariat3479]

I understand rationally that the evidence so far hasn't proved the seed oils = bad theory, but then why do I feel so much better on butter than margarine? Why do I feel like total garbage after fried foods and ultra processed sauces/dressings? 🤔

[@marchforward2011]

⁠@@theswoletariat3479ummm…cuz all those foods you mentioned are garbage🤷🏻‍♂️. So let me guess this straight, you are making healthier food choices (likely consuming WAY less butter than you ever consumed in ‘bad oils’ eating all those fried foods) and you feel better? 😂😂😂. Do the math.

[@lanceleefer8175]

Its called placebo and a limited ability to account for variables.

[@beardedwisdom101]

Hey this wasn’t What the fitness! Why the tone change when saying human randomised control trials? I don’t expect that tone with the educational series.

[@cscscs9152]

Crazy watching multiple theology channels vomiting nonsense out of nowhere and call is science, one channel generates theology from few short badly empirically observed chaos of stupidity, measure something immeasurable by the measurements that are not even real, and watching another theology channel respond to this. Its like being a third all-knowing all-understanding God between two monkeys. And all you have to do to become God in this society is have racionallity and logic. Human between parrots. God between humans.

[@methanial73]

Yeah, too much reliance on "it's natural it must be good!". Gwyneth Paltrow: "I don't believe anything natural can be bad for you" SMH. I'm here for the science and the facts, not scary stories and logical fallacies.

[@andrewzach1921]

Comment forrrrrrr the algorithm

[@cantstandya157]

Are there any RCT giving rancid vs fresh linoleic acid? Or would this be unethical? If the studies only use good quality oil then i can see a possible issue making assumptions based off this data.

[@Parker_Miller_M.S.]

What defines "rancid linoleic acid"?

[@cantstandya157]

@Parker_Miller_M.S. Omega-6 fats, like linoleic acid, can become rancid through a process called oxidation, which is a chemical reaction that breaks down the fat: Sunlight: Sunlight catalyzes the reaction that causes oxidation. Heat: Heat can trigger the enzymes that cause rancidity. Oxygen: Oxygen is involved in the chemical reaction that causes oxidation.

[@Parker_Miller_M.S.]

@cantstandya157 thanks for defining. But does any of it actually matter is the next question, beyond calorie intake and overall nutritional density of the diet. Basically, I'm not confident that if one has an overall health promoting diet that having an oil be heated makes any real difference. Or using an oil that has been exposed to sunlight makes nay difference. I would need to see that consumption of such oil actually reduces health by validated metrics in a controlled setting. I'm currently unaware of any such study.

[@cantstandya157]

@@Parker_Miller_M.S. This is where the issue is: the studies are done with good quality oil, and then people like Layne use this to make blanket statements on seed oils that could be sitting in a deep fryer for 15 days. I think there is nuance to this discussion; most people are either "ALL SEED OIL IS BAD!" or "LOOK AT THE RCT'S!".

[@againstjebelallawz]

Layne, any thoughts on Peter Rogers' anti-fat arguments (i.e., that there are no good fats)?

[@jagwolf8079]

It's interesting that an unrelated cooking channel (internetshaquille) just released a video about seed-oils yesterday. If anyone's interested, that was also a very good video; not focused on this studio, just in the general public perception.

[@CaelanTierney]

Well in Layne.

[@Corkfish1]

Oh this is going to trigger

[@SullivanKelly85]

Layne is very easy to debunk if you pay attention to the response videos. He doesn't know a lick about mechanistic details of metabolism so he relies solely on the surface conclusions of the RCTs rather than actually getting into the weeds about what the data ACTUALLY points to.

[@Corkfish1]

@SullivanKelly85 Which is pretty much true of everything and everyone on the Internet. Thanks to confirmation bias.

[@bb-jy7iu]

​@SullivanKelly85 from a researcher that studies mechanisms in a different field than nutrition (genetics) let me tell you: it is incredibly easy to work backwards from a conclusion and use existing literature to construct a mechanistic rationale that supports that conclusion. The reality is that the biological hairball (look it up) is so much more complicated than any subset of pathways within it. This is why in drug development, gene therapy development and nutrition we have to use empirical studies (like RCT) with rigorous statistical evidence. Mechanisms can help you conceive a study, but that's about all they are good for.

[@popularmmepic1584]

Good video. There has been a chant from all the nutrition people on KZbin about these oils. They sound so convincing but I fear their assertions are not based on anything except the “ew” factor.

[@aimeejones9533]

There are medicines made from the proteins of extremely venomous animals - sounds scary, but ultimately benefits people!

[@joerockhead7246]

fta

[@ThomasWht13]

Whatever FDA says I try to avoid it. I found myself in this rabbit hole of so many industry lies when I read "The 23 Former Doctor Truths". Its no wonder why Doctor left her career.

[@lukag3155]

Totally agree dude

[@lukag3155]

Couldnt said that better

[@SullivanKelly85]

SPAM

[@backfru]

No it's not Come on mate, Doctor left her career A DOCTOR after she read a book exposing lies, authored by somebody It's the damn FDA and Democrats that are to blame for all this

[@thodorisevangelakos]

This 60 iq argument is so fucking tiring man. When there isnt any actual evidence, lets just say that it's bad because the government says it's good

[@vegasbackgrounds3426]

I need help! About the approximate 3:1 ratio our bodies need when it comes to omega 6's to omega 3's? That's still correct right?? If there are only so many desaturases and your system is flooded with omega 6's, won't that block the omega 3's from being utilized and cause the ldl levels to rise over time?? I'm not saying seed oils are toxic, but shouldn't there be a limit on how much we should consume?? Please, someone answer this!!

[@bb-jy7iu]

You're overthinking it dude. The stress from obsessing over your diet is more damaging than your PUFA ratio. Don't eat too many calories, eat less sat fat, less sugar, and eat plenty of fiber. Replace sat fats with PUFAs where you can, preferably fish based Omega-3. Stay calm

[@Parker_Miller_M.S.]

Per a September 2024 review with Bill Harris, lead author Katherine Jackson, they state the ratio of omega 3 to 6 is not that important (I'm paraphrasing)

[@vegasbackgrounds3426]

@@bb-jy7iu I hear you, I'm not freaking out, I just want accurate info...now!

[@vegasbackgrounds3426]

@@Parker_Miller_M.S. Okay thanks, I will look this up.

[@Parker_Miller_M.S.]

@vegasbackgrounds3426 here is the title below. I was mistaken it's not Bill Campbell its Bill Harris who is one of the authors. I'm going to fix my prior comment. Beneficial effects of linoleic acid on cardiometabolic health: an update

[@brucejensen3081]

Think you made a mistake and said alpha linolenic acid instead of gamma linolenic acid. If the research is showing that ALA is good vs saturated fat, well that's omega3 and not omega6 vs sat fat. Saturated fat in cocao or even eggs seems better than in butter. The cholesterol lowering margarines with plant sterols in them seem to lower cholesterol quite well. Can you get these plant sterols in whole foods? What do the studies show on people using these cholesterol lowering margarine vs placebo on overall health?

[@arielrolim]

Comment for the algorithm.

[@aaronhughson285]

Being anti seed oils because food taste better in tallow is the only thing that makes sense.

[@thecaptain2118]

Layne literally picks at every study that goes against his narratives, but then in this video, cries about other people picking at the studies he likes. .. this guy is a joke 🤣 He also keeps dodging Salidino because he knows he'll get eaten alive. 🤣🤣

[@Scruffed]

Interesting as this study is (given the social media practice of demonizing seed oils and promoting ghee, butter, etc), it doesn't seem to show them being "good" overall and something people should use more of, it just shows they're better than saturated fats in one particular regard. It would've been much more interesting if it had also included a high-carb low-fat group with a similar calorie intake.

[@Jammaster1972]

Plant based diets are what the human body was designed for, so it makes sense that nothing God created was meant for man's harm. However, I would argue it's healthier to eat the foods the oils are found inside of rather than chemically scrubbing and concentrating a high density of these oils into our diets. The same applies to highly refined carbohydrates which people no doubt have a tendency to overconsume. Both refined oils and sugars lead to overconsumption which in turn leads to obesity, insulin resistance, and ultimately cardiovascular disease and cancer.

[@lloydhlavac6807]

The human need for vitamin B12, and the lack of it among plants proves that is not correct.

[@Liz_Alfano]

Hard to believe this is even controversial.

[@TropicOfCancer1998]

I don't eat seeds or seed oils only fruits , then leave the seed in the soil.

[@googleaccount2821]

For the algorithm!

[@2ndstreetmarvel]

💪🏿💪🏿

[@Ryan-wx1bi]

I hope RFK sees this... He fell for the anti seed oil BS

[@erikhartley1690]

Layne is holding a 100 lb. weight in his left arm so that is why he doesn't move it

[@mattstehr2665]

This actually totally makes sense since as we’ve been consuming higher levels of seed oils we’ve seen rates of fatty liver declining. Looking back 100 years or so everyone had fatty liver from all that saturated fat, and now thanks to seed oils replacing saturated fats in the diet fatty liver is almost unheard of in the US. Oh, wait…

[@mestrinimaster3602]

Nobody's talking me out of my bread with butter!

[@Incomudro1963]

Yeah, it must be the dreaded SEED OILS. Can't have anything to do with the gluttonous, lazy slobs more than half of the population is.

[@carinaekstrom1]

@@mestrinimaster3602 I love bread and butter too, but I eat a butter that is made of vegetable oils that taste just like butter, so why would I choose the saturated fat?

[@altaisrs2857]

Lol. It can't be overconsumption of food in general, no, it must be the SeEd OiL. Guess what people also eat more than a 100 years ago? Foods containing saturated fats. It's not like Mc Donald's burgers don't contain them in excess. Lmao.

[@ricksmith2543]

FOR THE ALGORITHM

[@damens-xn9pu]

Layne gets a like from me everytime. For the Algorithm

[@flexlikeag]

Fta

[@JOHNNY34A]

Another great video. Keep calling out the bullshit

[@StraightEdgeJunkie]

This video is gonna get so much hate from the three brain cell goblins.

[@Macgee826]

If you listen to this guy thats exactly what you'll turn into......true story.

[@hightierplayers2454]

So, the whole video is insanely condescending and acting like there is no conflicting evidence that seed oils both have some benefits and drawbacks depending on who you are. Both sides, "No seed oil under any circumstance" as well as "Seed oils are perfectly fine and even good for you" are extremes and extremes are almost always wrong. Your side is a "religon" too and the comments being so full of conceited dumbasses parroting your talking points proves this unquestionably correct.

[@El-Duderino42]

"Extremes are almost always wrong." I dunno. This sounds extreme.

[@Parker_Miller_M.S.]

Beyond the calories there really is not any negative evidence I've seen from the oil literature and I'm currently writing a lengthy article on the subject.

[@K4R3N]

So lower BMI is best, then lean on omega-6

[@Dystopia-s7y]

Why are seed oils such a thing with tinfoil hat wearing fitness weirdos.

[@JasonJrake]

It’s a fad. Nutrition is constantly going through phases of selective “bad guys.” Some end up being bad, some not. But the excess focus on a single ingredient or ingredient category is how you get attention ton for your book or news segment or article.

[@amc1140]

You ignore the biggest issue: HEATING seed oil

[@kieranwhittemore1010]

Cite the sources that show it's an issue

[@danraymond4087]

😂😂😂

[@amc1140]

@ Study: “Health effects of dietary oxidized oil: A systematic review” (Aladedunye et al., Food Chemistry Toxicology, 2014). • Findings: Repeatedly heated seed oils contain oxidized byproducts that can contribute to oxidative stress and inflammation.

[@helios4425]

Great point. A few studies to back it up since Layne won't. Association of long-term consumption of repeatedly heated mix vegetable oils in different doses and hepatic toxicity through fat accumulation 2.Impact of consumption of repeatedly heated cooking oils on the incidence of various cancers- A critical review. 3. Heated vegetable oils and cardiovascular disease risk factors

[@arvidlystnur4827]

Don't eat fried food, or more so deep fried. I practice what I preach.

[@mestrinimaster3602]

Layne isn't natural! He says he is but he's all juiced up!

[@Michael-h8l5m]

Brought to you by Pfizer lol

[@TimberW073]

I don’t care cause I don’t read em… the ultimate flex 😂

[@kewlenjo219]

No, the ultimate in arrogance, totally off-putting to someone new to his channel who would have liked to understand better and was cut off.

[@survivorbeste87]

you need to gain 50 kg of muscle before i can take your opinions seriously

[@timbaws1346]

So someone has to be bigger than Ronnie Coleman for you to take their opinion seriously? 😂

[@60-Is-The-New-30]

You are too smart for your own good. And actually, you are not so smart!!!!! No one says omega 6s are bad for you genius. However, it is all about the omega 6 to omega 3 ratio. something that none of your freaking colleagues measure beforehand in any of these so-called RCTs. What was the omega-3 level of any of the participants before any of these RTCs took place and why did they not measure it. No one is making excuses, so please with your hubris. Omega 6s on their own if too high will do harm to your body in the long run. Stick to your expertise. You are not an expert in this specific field!!!!

[@marcdaniels9079]

So here you are , one of the anti seed oil cultists referred to. Please state why Layne is not competent in this area and why you are.

[@Ryguzapi]

"No one says omega 6s are bad for you" is objectively false. Tons of people say that. Layne here is referring to the tons of people who say that omega 6s are inherently bad for you and that saturated fat is inherently good. The omega 6s to omega 3s ratio is a totally different conversation. You are fighting for a different argument, and the fact that you didn't realise that doesn't make you seem as smart and you think you are

[@60-Is-The-New-30]

@@marcdaniels9079 I am not anti-seed. I do the homework. Save your anti-seed nonsense for the naive. Mr Norton knows very well what I am talking about. Maybe he should address this. I use what you lack, common sense and logic. This is why< I am 60 and shredded and have absolutely no disease or take meds. And I move run and jump like a freaking teenager!!! Think I am lying???? Not one RCT ever measured the omega-3 levels of any participant. Omega 6 work together with omega 3s. A 4 to 1 ratio is healthy. There is no way of knowing what the omega-3 levels of the participants were. Nor did the researchers ever monitor what the participants ate. They may have eaten fish high in omega 3 during the study or taken omega 3 supplements. The meta-analysis, by not addressing this gap in the original study, essentially perpetuates the limitations and undermines the reliability of its own results. It repeats the findings without acknowledging a critical variable that could have significantly influenced the outcomes. Even if the individual studies were well-designed in other aspects, this oversight regarding omega-3 intake raises serious doubts about the validity of their conclusions. It is impossible to definitively determine the isolated effects of omega 6 fatty acids without accounting for the potential influence of omega 3s Experts in lipid research should be aware of the importance of the omega-6 to omega-3 ratio. It highlights a concerning gap between established knowledge and research practice. Future studies and meta-analyses in this field must: Incorporate baseline omega 3 measurements and monitor omega 3 intake throughout the study period to provide a more accurate and nuanced understanding of the interplay between these fatty acids. Shift the focus from solely analyzing omega 6 intakes to examining the omega 6 to omega 3 ratio as a more relevant and meaningful indicator of dietary impact on health. Bottom line, I couldn't care less about your seed oil bullsh** war. I stick to facts and truths. How is your health? Are you in your 60s and on some type of meds. Do you have joint pains? Do you wear glasses? As for me, I feel fantastic and have the agility of a teenager!!!!! And have 20/19 vision, courtesy of watching what I eat and definitely avoiding seed oils like the plague. Those are my credentials, better than a freaking PhD!!!!!

[@60-Is-The-New-30]

@@Ryguzapi You are wrong. Omega 6s are good for you and needed by your body but they must be balanced with omega 3s. What do you mean the ratio means nothing here. It means everything. if the omega 3s were not measured in any RCT, it makes the study results flawed.

[@Ryguzapi]

@60-Is-The-New-30 You absolutely did not understand a single word in my comment. I suspect your longevity methods are not stemming great results

[@fopeezy3097]

I'm STILL going hard on ANYTHING the government tells me to do or recommends. COVID changed my perspective on anything these people have to say about anything.

[@bb-jy7iu]

You should start smoking menthols then

[@fopeezy3097]

@@bb-jy7iu And using the food pyramid 😁

[@Mohan-v1v]

Yes, you're absolutely right. Btw, the earth is FLAT. NASA has been hiding this truh for decades.