Why Depressed People Are Very Logical

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[@HealthyGamerGG]

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[@emthatyourefuse2494]

This is why it's really risky to straight-up argue with someone else's depressive thinking. You're basically challenging them to present the case in favor of their belief, which is exactly the type of situation where people tend to double down.

[@diasdeinvierno8041]

​@@emthatyourefuse2494 why would you argue with someone who didn't ask you for help in the first place? Do you want to become responsible for their lives? Take it from them? If not, then don't try to save anyone from something they didn't ask your help for.

[@crepette1396]

My man just accidentally timestamped the link

[@ceterisparibus8966]

What is the "why" again?

[@theradiantdehd3997]

@@diasdeinvierno8041 I disagree. As someone who has been on the verge of suicide a handful of times, it helps, not being told that I’m wrong, but having someone at least listen to my reasoning. When I present I’m useless and couldn’t hold a job because I was two hours late EVERY DAY because I couldn’t find the energy to try, and they say that I’m not useless, it doesn’t help, but when they listen and actually try to understand the pain an argument like that inflicts on me, and that I’m buried under a mountain of similar arguments, it helps. No one is going to perfectly understand what I feel or think, but being able to share at least what I can formulate into words so they see me as suffering, not a moron who is being dramatic and hasn’t thought out the decision it does wonders. Keep the conversation going on long enough and eventually the feelings will subside enough to let me at least sleep it off. Those feelings will always return until I work them out, but each time I survive another day, that’s one more that the few people in my life who genuinely care don’t have to mourn my passing.

[@ErikratKhandnalie]

The most difficult part about feeling hopeless is being unable to see any reason why you should be otherwise

[@Drekromancer]

This line hits hard.

[@whizkeysh0t]

​@freedomofspeechenjoyer5443 tate boyfriend detected

[@SoupIsSouppy]

​@@whizkeysh0t He takes it from behind and we both know it

[@whizkeysh0t]

@@SoupIsSouppy nothing wrong with that, but him denying it is pretty fucking funny

[@rico-228]

i fart

[@myb701]

It really hurts being told some cutesy phrase like "you're loved" and then left to rot.

[@quatzxice]

Ugh so true and it's cringe as well because you can tell it's not genuine.

[@sanjaykarthikeyan9917]

Well I apologise if this sounds rude. But first love and accept yourself, make yourself a priority. Because nobody will ever do that for you. The one and only scenario where the above mentioned rule should be broken, is for your family (parents, wife and kids) give the main priority to kids. This is what I believe and practice.

[@angryvaultguy]

"don't be jealous love and accept your body" -attractive people

[@PaladinZaego]

@@sanjaykarthikeyan9917 It's not rude, but I find that there is a key point that needs introducing. If someone has had childhood trauma and experienced abandonment and abuse by their parents, it's really honestly next to impossible to love and accept yourself, because you never experienced it from your parents, which is like the basic building block to everything. There is no template for it in your mind, or body. It's not a skill you can suddenly develop out of thin air all by yourself. Only after you've experienced a unconditional, "parental" love, or a surrogate for it later in life, can a person with early childhood trauma start accepting and loving themself.

[@PaladinZaego]

@MYB -- Yeah, it's modern day people just being their selfish selves. It's easier to throw fire-and-forget oneliners and appear sympathetic while actually just rushing off or changing subjects because it's inconvenient to actually listen, and actually care about a fellow human being. Curious since I often find that it's the ones who actually have their shit together, who keep saying cutesy phrases like such, and then weasel off.

[@Smulenify]

My professor would say that depressed people often don't have the filter that tells us everything is alright, so to some extent they see the world for what it is.

[@Austinearl7899]

is not that how your supposed to see the world?

[@FBernkastel]

​@@Austinearl7899not at all.

[@myb701]

the WHAT now?

[@Duck-3]

Damn didnt know being a realist is being depressed

[@b.w.s3165]

​@@Duck-3Not necessarily, but there ARE a good amount of identical thought processes and conclusions that Realists and those who are deeply Depressed share.

[@cinder2085]

I am severely depressed but I often find that I don’t even want to get better anymore . I have fallen so deep that it feels like I’ve made my bed and I’m gonna lay in it

[@happyus7464]

Same lol but sometimes I randomly get dose of motivation and that my life will get better.

[@jaynic6249]

Dealing with the same thing for a few years pretty bad now, I hope it gets better for all of us.

[@Average_NPC_Viewer]

i‘ve been dealing with that for the past 5 years. always sitting on my bed, thinking why i even exist at this point and combined with social anxiety, severe loneliness, absolute hopelesness and suicial thoughts i‘m not even bothering trying to get better. it‘s like being trapped in a dark void with no hope for so long, that even with a lot of help i won‘t get much better without leaving a permanent scar on my already numb emotions.

[@revengefulsouls5201]

@@Average_NPC_Viewersorry but did you ever see a therapist or they didn’t help with what you’re dealing with currently

[@RJIS]

I hope you get better

[@andrewz2854]

I think this is why many writers have historically shown signs of depression. When you just can’t trick yourself into living in the bullshit comforting bubble anymore, but it seems everyone around you is happily inside of it, you have no one left to turn to but the blank page.

[@gamingwhilebroken2355]

The Sylvia Plath effect?

[@mrgalaxy396]

A lot of writers also lived in an age where getting help for mental conditions was not an option.

[@andrewz2854]

@@mrgalaxy396 It still isn’t very accessible in many countries, even to this day.

[@danielmantell8751]

The blank page or a gun. No one really remembers the latter though. Remember kids, killing yourself is dumb because you're going to die anyway. Living a life of pain and suffering is way more interesting than just offing yourself. No one loves you more when you die, they just think you're kind of an asshole

[@eprd313]

​@@danielmantell8751 "interesting" is how people have truly different perspectives, experiences and emotional lives. I bet no one who's experiencing hell will call it "interesting" but *the privileged has an opinion*

[@lightseekerdarkdevourer7635]

As a depressed person, this is true. We get tired of being in emotional pain. So we turn it off. "Click" just like that. The problem is that the source of a lot of motivation is our emotions. And depression short changes us in that area. Hence why it is so difficult to break free from depression. Like an autoimmune disease, depression targets what is needed to remove it from the body. Willpower is all we have left, and it doesn't last long especially when we really don't want to do it. Willpower is like a resistance or immunity modifier or opens the door so something could change. Emotions are like the fuel that pushes us through the difficulty of the task. And logic is what points in the direction we should go. We can see and point at what needs to change. Find the opportunity. Capitalize on it. We take a step or two to get started through sheer willpower, but we just don't have the fuel to keep moving. Fall, crash, and burn... Remember that pain is an amazing motivator. We hate pain, at least most of us do. This is a, in general, shout out for help on behalf of all depressed people. We won't like it, but when everything is done and over, we will thank you for it. Good luck. Edit: grammar errors.

[@figimah227]

incredibly well put

[@Random__Dude.]

Damn man you just described my inner world in a short text. I'm impressed

[@an.dreuuu]

Thank you for your POV! I feel relieved to know that I'm not alone in this feeling.

[@Bruh-vd3cp]

R/im14andthisisdeep

[@an.dreuuu]

@@Bruh-vd3cp I'm 17 and this is real

[@twan102000]

"It is no measure of health to be well adjusted to a profoundly sick society." -Jiddu Krishnamurti

[@yolisamsomi1130]

Amen.

[@marcusknoll9500]

How old are you

[@more.art.less.war.]

Ignorance is bliss, wisdom is pain

[@Anonymous_dumdum]

The past is history and the future is a mistery. Right now is a gift which is why we call it the "present"

[@more.art.less.war.]

@@Anonymous_dumdum I mean sure I guess, that's got nothing to do with my comment though

[@Anonymous_dumdum]

@@more.art.less.war. Fair enough

[@rockardist]

Yeah, this is very accurate. As a person with relapsing depression I can say that overanalysing and then not being able to follow up on the gameplan is a common occurance. You know what you should do, but you still won't. Even if it is logical/rational

[@TurkiIBrAanimeLoVer]

What's the solution?

[@ewgna1014]

for me im drugged up on adderall and prozac so I take the pills and think about the consequences until my body moves

[@EMlNENCJA]

Good section of comments

[@kevinlow69420]

​@@TurkiIBrAanimeLoVer create new character/save

[@blue_aspen]

I think I have the same thing. This sounds WAY too familiar... (Ocd and anxiety do not help, either. Sometimes just existing feels like sensory overloaded, anxiety inducing hell-)

[@Kekistani_Insurgent]

This is important. You hit on something I haven’t seen many people be brave enough to bring up- That sometimes when a person feels like they should die, it’s not because they’re overwhelmed and haven’t thought it through. Many times they _have_ thought it through, and that’s how they ended up there.

[@BS-si6pj]

@@lugburz-shak4629 Nice try being deep but maybe fix your spelling and grammar first, then try to write something which actually makes sense.

[@bunsenn5064]

Yeah. It’s rough, but every time I follow any line of reason, it always lead back to death as the ultimate solution, and all of solutions are simply stalling or prolonging this.

[@Not_interestEd-]

​​@@bunsenn5064 I've been in a mental hospital before for self deletion reasons. Thing is I was perfectly clear, just had a lot of emotions backed up. Still went to therapy for 2 years despite not getting anywhere. Wondered to myself on multiple occasions "why AM I here?" It's hard to talk about a problem that you're not dealing with. I wasn't wanting to d1e anymore, I just came to realize "I guess I exist now" and coasted off that since. If you're feeling like death is the only option, remember this- you gotta outlive your enemies. You can do so much more if you stay alive, and watch as those who spite you fall into a pit of debt, as you pull through, stronger than those fools.

[@Fullyautomagic]

@@Not_interestEd-you don’t know what happens when you die. I could be obi wan; more powerful in death.

[@Not_interestEd-]

@@Fullyautomagic true, I'm not going to ignore that possibility, but as far as we're aware, there's empty darkness after death, which is something that terrifies people.

[@Faolan_Grey]

I'm depressed and literally always been logical about it, I think that's why everyone around me hates me. They can't argue against me not wanting to be alive. Like I have no interests, I don't care to grow old and retire to travel the world or have kids. I work now just so I can retire early and sit in my room not having to do anything sooner. Idgaf about living, it's boring and I have nothing to look forward to. I didn't ask to be here, and if I just disappeared it wouldn't matter anymore because I'm gone so I wouldn't have a brain to think about what would be going on after. It wouldn't be my problem anymore.

[@valexizhexa1786]

Why don't u have anything to look forward to?

[@lalash8539]

Ur feelings are valid. The problem is that a symptom of depression is "that u stop caring about things". Which ur talking about. U dont care about ur life. Because ur depressed. if u were not depressed, u would not feel like that. And depression can be solved. But if you dont want or care to solve it its gonna be hard to solve. But you dont have to feel like that. There is a good life out there for you. Its on the other side of depression. ur feelings are valid. But ur feelings should not dictate ur life because feelings change. ❤

[@levantinedoomer2317]

You summed it up

[@mishiak]

I understand you, but I think a reason we feel like this is because we don't have the situational things we need to experience certain things in life, whether its because something is too expensive so we shut it off, or because of our self biased view we don't realise that there is more out there in the world. Before I became depressed, I had and still do have things I want to do, but they seem so far out of reach, I don't have the energy and I hate everything. Its just so tiring.

[@jessicac8090]

Honestly fair. lately ive had such a fuck it attitude and decided to be more spontaneous with things, the plan of work now to enjoy later doesnt apply to me because at the rate im going who knows if there will be a later. Our situations are probably completely different, but I chose to stop living for a future I might not see and instead try to live more in the present. I still do my usual obligations of course (moved out and go to uni), but in general Im more cheerful when i give myself small things to actually look forward to. It can be simple like a book, or a bit more complicated like trying to make a habbit of going outside by your own volition. Im in a good cycle right now so thats what my methodology is. In a bad cycle just trying to clean and make sure I shower helps.

[@nehagautam9014]

I was depressed for 7 years. When I was suicidal I didn't believe anything in the world could make me happy again. Finally what helped me is looking back at happy memories. Before the onset of depression, there was a time in my life when I was really happy and I never imagined I would someday be in so much pain that suicide will seem the only way to end it. If such an unimaginable thing has happened once and made me depressed then it can happen again and make me happy. Logically I couldn't imagine myself being happy ever again, but I ditched logic and just believed that it can happen. Now it's been 10 years since I am out of depression.

[@discordlexia2429]

Unfortunately, I don't have memories from before that time.

[@jensenraylight8011]

just like any sickness, let it runs it course, just let it happen, don't try to force yourself to be happy if it will continue for 6 Months, then let yourself be depressed for 6 months, if you want to sleep all day, then just sleep all day, do it until you feel better, let the whole world burn if you never let depression flow until it run out things to be depressed about, then you'll keep piling up guilt after guilt of unproductivity on top of your depression when you're depressed, you can't see any future possibilities, everything is hopeless. but there will be a day where everything just right, that everything works and you feel like you can conquer the world, where you'll be glad that you're alive and keep dragging yourself one day at a time just like when you get fever, you can't see the possibilities, because you tried to predict your future with current situation, but, things will get better, we just can't see it at the moment

[@lujon103]

It's not easy for me to turn off the logic.

[@nehagautam9014]

@@lujon103 We subconsciously think that suicidal thoughts are wrong but if that's all we feel we try to justify them via logic. Nothing in the world is making sense except that logic so obviously it's difficult to turn it off. You may not believe you can be happy again, but you have to decide if you WANT to be happy again. Imagine any happy moment in your life, do you want to feel that again? If yes, you will have to make an effort to turn off the negative logic. Don't force yourself to be happy but also stop thinking about anything that makes you sad. Find something to keep your mind busy. Slowly negative thoughts will reduce and after a while they will be replaced by positive thoughts. It will take time but it will be worth it.

[@myboatforacar]

"A mind all logic is like a knife all blade. It makes the hand bleed that uses it." -- Rabindranath Tagore (Thanks for the corrections, Marshall Artz!)

[@kijs9109]

When in doubt, quote Mark Twain

[@janesholst]

It’s Lao tzu from Tao te Ching (ancient china) - my favourite book

[@coins_png]

​@@janesholst oh so it's a stoic saying I see. Love Lao Tzu

[@Joel_Pierson]

I thought it was from Winston Churchill. For anyone actually wondering it’s from Rabindranath Tagore.

[@MikeOcksmallClips]

The beauty of quotes is that idgaf where it came from nor does it really matter. Quotes are better than books.

[@Nikki0417]

It's true, you can recognize that you're depressed, know you should do something about it, and still not being able to put yourself out of the funk. There's something almost addicting about letting yourself sink. It's scary.

[@PolishBehemoth]

Its lack of struggle and responsibilities to be honest. People that have shit to do dont sink like that .

[@wildpendulum]

​@@PolishBehemothlook at this valuable expertise 😂

[@Nikki0417]

@@PolishBehemoth thanks dude. Your valuable input will definitely cure people's depression.

[@PolishBehemoth]

@@Nikki0417 😘

[@axolotlempire8947]

​@@PolishBehemoth💀

[@Neotenico]

The best thing I've learned from my bouts with suicidal ideation is to try as hard as I can to make it to bed and get some sleep. Usually when I wake up the next day, my desire to tie a knot and dangle is subdued to the point that I can fight it back and make it through one more.

[@LelouchStrayKid]

The same coping mechanism I've been using for quite some time now. Hope its effect doesn't slowly diappear with time, just like everything else I tried.

[@Kambk.]

Nice, I can't even get myself to sleep. I can go for days and days without sleeping at all and it's so tiring. But hey, we'll die some day anyway, let's not rush it.

[@EpochUnlocked]

You can't tell people to hope. You have to give it to them. They're boxed in with logic. You unlock that box through their heart.

[@jvolc]

❤

[@fairygurl9269]

"Argue with Self I Always Lose"

[@RabblerouserGT]

"Fighting myself, I always lose." Talking about the Linkin Park song? :P

[@bikdigdaddy]

​@@RabblerouserGT i thought same lmao

[@jsmarco2686]

But I win almost all the time, but I argue over and over to a really long period of time

[@fairygurl9269]

@@RabblerouserGT 🤘🥰🤙

[@AliCatGtz]

Me to myself, “Checkmate”

[@UrobourosZero]

One thing I’ve always hated is when I explain my emotions and feelings to someone, and they basically try to use arguments or reasonings that would work on them, on me, but because of how different we are, it just doesn’t work on me. I’ve had plenty of people, both blood related and otherwise, tell me how innately valuable life is and how I should appreciate mine more, and then just call me stubborn and give up when they don’t like my answers because of how much I disagree or how much I have arguments against what they have to say. I feel like sometimes they just want someone to take their advice even if it doesn’t work, because they want to feel good about themselves, regardless of if the advice is actually applicable or not.

[@muddymerkutio]

I second this, so much I could type to explain my agreement with this but I’ll just leave it be..sigh

[@UrobourosZero]

@@muddymerkutio I understand. I’m sorry.

[@raingirlcat2245]

Some people think that we’re all the same. We aren’t. Everyone has different ways of thinking whether it be creative, academic, etc. It’s the same case for mental health, everyone goes through different things yatatata you’ve heard that stuff before. It’s very difficult. I’m not great at helping others with mental health issues like depression because I struggle so much on my own. I know that I’m not alone, and you probably know that you aren’t alone either.

[@sawyerharris3721]

I know it feels like that sometimes for sure, but trust me, people want to help it’s not a vanity thing, at least not always. They’re just frustrated and lost on how to do so. And scared of what failing to do so could mean. And it’s a fundamental difference to think life has innate value vs thinking it is completely pointless.

[@utubefuku7132]

​@@wayfaringstranger It's not that. We must not be that critical of the world around. Most people genuinely try to help, but they dont know how and dont understand. Only someone who has been under it understands. I never got frustrated at people for behaving like this, I was appreciative but yes, it's unhelpful. I myself cant help either. I lived with depression for more than 30 years, and the only thing that forcefully snapped me out of it was the prospect of losing my kids at court and probably ending up on the streets. I had to rush to find a job and get them back

[@ubiquites]

One of the biggest logic enigma that ‘logical depressed’ people may consider/understand is that they’re constantly saying negative things which are making their days worse are: - Doing draining activities such as masking certain traits, - Having a nutrient deficient diet, - Telling themselves on a daily basis that everyday is a bad day, - Thinking too much about the future negatively, - Regretting the past, Usually someone has to make it ‘click’ in your mind that you’re doing it to yourself to make a impact to change. One of the fastest ways to change is to know that what you’re doing is ‘going to work’ as if a professional told you it’s going to work. And you’re going to do the following: - Tell yourself your day’s going to be good, - Consume something packed with nutrients as a first meal for a couple days (such as a protein shake), - Be hyper, even if you feel tired/exhausted, that hyperactivity is going to make you forget your regrets/depressing thoughts - If you were hiding or masking your impulsivity, it may take a bit to become impulsive again, but push yourself to be slightly more impulsive since it helps with your brain working faster - Drink water if you’re anxious or feel overwhelmed - Maybe even drink the protein shake telling yourself ‘this has choline, tons if vitamins, etc, it’s going to mess with my brain and make me feel better’ (validating logic against logic) disclaimer: this is mainly from my own personal experience

[@vaska1999]

He didn't mention this, but research shows thst depressed people have a more realistic grasp of situations, a more realistic outlook on life. This doesn't apply to those who are suicidal or depressed to the point of disability, but moderately depressed people are actually the sane ones among us. What I take from this is that modern psychology, with its talk of "negative" thoughts and "negative" emotions is the product of immature minds that simply can't stand very much reality.

[@nopedoingthings]

lol yep my therapist told me i'm one of the most grounded in reality people she's ever met. I have always had depression. My whole life.

[@chocolate_cosmos]

Sheesh, this whole time I've been thinking that I needed to be drawn down to reality but it's actually a strong dose of delusion that I need 😅

[@dracojay2596]

When I be goin through the motions, my counter logic is, “Death is inevitable. No need to rush it.”

[@Adam-yo3bt]

Death sounds comfortable rn ngl

[@m1ke273]

Mine is "Don't die just yet, you still have to suffer more. You haven't earned death"

[@Adam-yo3bt]

@@m1ke273 don't die yet you haven't inflicted your misery on the ones who cause you it yet

[@Adam-yo3bt]

@@m1ke273 or don't die it's gay

[@m1ke273]

@@Adam-yo3bt works as well

[@BrandonB...]

The truth is that the most logical, honest, fair-minded, open, compassionate, and empathetic people are the most depressed because the universe is fundamentally really depressing. However, there is a way to be all these things and enjoy life.

[@wintrs9161]

how??

[@thatboynelly]

What's the way?

[@_Cfocus]

No, the phemonon of depression spreading started with the age of technology with the age abandoning religion and morals

[@uzi-rm]

The universe is not fundamentally depressing. The universe is, just the universe. We choose how to perceive it.

[@kairu_aname]

For those wondering, they aren't saying the method because it's different for everyone. For some it could be that their really into fire hydrants, others it could be trains. You could find someone that lists things off for you to try but that's still guessing.

[@ThePiscesNotOnly]

I think one of the reason might be depressed people concern about everything. Literally EVERYTHING. The longer depressed the mind is, the more logical and leads to more concerns..Then that concern became a reality of picture in the mind and continously to be sad about it. Because there are too many situations and ways we can be concern about in reality... (of the broken, not beautiful, flaws side) So the outcome is definitely a soul wounded.

[@xxJing]

I've noticed that my depression personally comes from my stomach issues. The moment I got them sorted out things seemed a lot brighter. It may not be the case for other people, but look to see if you have some kind of physiological issue that may be causing your depression.

[@alleycat2297]

How did you get them sorted out?

[@Bleilock1]

Yea, lack of money in my case

[@phrinus]

Just read No longer human, m'dudes. It's basically a very detailed example of a severely chronically depressed person, written by, arguably an even more depressed author

[@Chizypuff]

"just" I'm memeing tho, I will check it out when I get the chance

[@gmlogmdb]

Will this book amplify my depression

[@panzerkampfyoutubekommenta4947]

​@@gmlogmdb nah

[@frankkennedy6388]

Read "The Subtle Art Of Not Giving A F*ck" "a counterintuitive approach to living a good life" by Mark Manson. Whether the advice works or not, it's an entertaining read.

[@mrburnout]

@@frankkennedy6388 that book belongs in the trash

[@SandraP4123]

Yup. Very accurate. Also, I tried to make people understand, that they can't tell me that I shouldn't look at life in black/white/grey colors - I always told them, that they're the one's not understanding that life actually isn't all pink and lovely. Hard to explain depression to someone that has never experienced it before. It for sure isn't the feeling of being sad. The lack of emotion is numbing.. still recovering. It really is a struggle. For anyone with depression reading: going to therapy and talk about your feelings, even tho you're not targeting your current state directly, helped me.

[@5Demona5]

I feel ya. I'd try to explain it to my family and they would downsize everything "You just need to do some exercise and you'll be fine. You're just feeling that cause you're being lazy" With my therapist, we concluded that one of the biggest causes of my mental issues was my toxic family. I moved out, and I still have some iffy days, but all the worse days are in my past.

[@SandraP4123]

@@5Demona5 I understand. And congrats on leaving the toxic environment. that is a big step! We can't heal in the environment that makes us miserable. Take care!

[@anm8001]

But that optimism they offer should be taken with open arms. This is coming from someone who has lived through 8 years of diagnosed depression. In that state you hold on to your toxic beliefs. Overthinking, worrying and being stuck in that misery. Finding it logical. Doing things actively and realising that even though life can be horrible, it's just a part of it. And limited time here means that wasting it, is a pity

[@FlagerMiszcz]

Life can be black&white, it can be also pink and even rainbow. It's not objective.

[@Vergilsjackpot]

well thats called being nihilistic, not depressed. Trying to convince them life is sad when they're all telling you it's not is called being deluded, that is unless you've actually experienced some unknown horror that only you know about, but chances are bad things that have happened to you have happened to millions of others, how you handle it is your choice.

[@nikosaronim]

Fr. I think this is why I doubt my being "logical" because from what I remembered as a kid, I wasn't really like this. I was very emotional and outgoing type. Now I keep to myself and calculate a lot of my actions. It could be partly just adulthood, idk. But I do feel like depression triggered that change in me.

[@hellohaveagoodday]

This is very true, I've been depressed for a very long time. Probably since i was 13. I've been to counselling and multiple different people always tried to find flaws in my logic but end up going quiet. I'm depressed because I can never do the things I want to do and they can never figure out a way to help other than "you can get there! You just need to try harder!" This planet is fucked and my country is going down the drain. I can't pretend and live in a bubble of happiness anymore.

[@chocolate_cosmos]

Exactly. I constantly think why hold on to hope for a better future in which I won't be able to have anything to call my own. I can barely afford to breath right now.

[@Yuri-nc9vl]

​@@chocolate_cosmossadly most people only survive...If you don't have a talent, passion or a good skill life its depressing as fuck

[@lukeairborne5552]

Quite annoying when you have a day where you are just sitting there like I'm this age and haven't achieved or done anything nor do I contribute or change the world in anyway so why bother sticking around situation and get so close to almost starting to make a change in your life but either immediately falling off or just losing all motivation after any inconvenience

[@Pandcakes936]

This is absolutely 100% me. Something that might make you feel better that I tried out was volunteer work. You should try it out. Cleaning parks, out in nature, lost in your own thoughts, doing something for the planet, it feels great!

[@lukeairborne5552]

@Pandoofus figured since I wasted a giant chunk of my life with life lol I didn't develop a hands on skill so I was thinking of continuing my channel where I entertain with gaming content and self improvement

[@lukeairborne5552]

@Weird guy lol seeing weird guy replied threw me off but yea I agree I don't know what you consider young but to me I'm not that young for sure it's almost a disgrace to myself to think of how I've wasted so much time

[@Kimmie6772]

I think the same thing every day. When i get in that mindset, instead of arguing with it i go "why yes, i might not have done much, but what does reminding me of this accomplish?". Did the thought come up when you started to feel motivated? Did it come up when you were starting to feel sad? Our brains, despite being dysfunctional half the time, is trying to accomplish something by feeling a certain way. I realized that i had these thoughts when i thought about doing something. I was trying to check my ego and not let myself get dissapointed when it was completely unnecessary to do so. It's a lot more fun to kind of converse with yourself and try to decode the actual meaning of the thoughts. Very rarely are they literal and its a lot more freeing to know that you can acknowledge feelings without identifying with them. It doesnt work for everyone but it can be a nice excercise if you aren't good at writing it down.

[@lukeairborne5552]

@Kayla A. Stephen appreciate the advice, it's usually before I'm thinking of doing what I should be doing like editing or making a video and sometimes when I'm just with my thoughts I usually push it away or occupy myself because beating myself gets to be to much

[@mikabugg]

This is definitely true, and one of the reasons why it’s so hard to actually explain depression to people. Sure, it’s hopelessness and lack of motivation, but so much of that alone is just paradoxes of conclusions. If your emotions are bringing you down, how do you gain the emotions to bring yourself back up? If you’re lacking control, then when will you take control of that control again? If you don’t have motivation, how will you ever get the motivation to work towards getting motivation back?

[@ewolf6911]

When I'm feeling depressed I make a list on my phone with literally everything that's concerning or affecting me. Then I look at what I can avoid or improve. Usually helps, even if I don't improve anything. But it kinda gives me more control about random/destructive thoughts.

[@chesstime_0720]

Good way of dealing

[@misteroz]

I think that makes perfect sense - there’s nothing like logic to disprove false hope.

[@Rudra-01]

I tried to talk my friend out of depression once......, I had a week long existential crises.😅

[@Naknave]

Oh man yeah I used to be in a heavily depressed friend group, and trying to talk them out of depression just leaves you feeling heavier than you started.

[@thaloblue]

This is why we push for therapy. You cannot ever lift someone out of depression by yourself.

[@PolishBehemoth]

Talking doesnt work as much as working and moving out of depression.

[@kevngu7256]

Not sure I want to talk to anyone about it. Just seem like I would leave some type of negativity in thier mind. I already done enough

[@thaloblue]

@@kevngu7256 i tried when my friend’s fiance broke up with him but my depressed brain only thought up more depressing things to talk about lol

[@devilgash2205]

I think this is exactly why I hear that the one of the best and safest way to help deppressed people is willing to listen to them or as vinh giang said, be curious and let them have their emotional breath. We have 1 mouth and 2 ears but often time I see people have 10 mouths and just 1 ear

[@Drekromancer]

Well said.

[@Hi_Im_Akward]

I think one of my major turning points was just having a therapist tell me "it's hard and it makes sense that you feel this way". Also had some good therapists that explained the scientific workings of what is happening. Mine specifically is related to a lot of trauma so learning a lot about trauma helped me dig out of the depression hole. But damn the validation was needed.

[@Subsistence69]

So much this. Often whenever I try to chime in about something I care about or have a lot of knowledge on, the people around don’t give a shit and I recognize it so I just stfu. I love love love when people actually try to pick my brain cuz my brother is the only one I can REALLY have a conversation with atm

[@augustlorcan7986]

can confirm, as someone who has suffered from depression, suicidality and extremely poor self esteem, nothing made me feel worse than people trying to convince me otherwise, because I could always pick holes in their arguments and it just reinforced my feelings instead of helping them

[@augustlorcan7986]

​@@Hi_Im_Akward same here. my current therapist is the only one who has helped me feel even slightly better than it's because he doesn't argue with me, he just listens and helps me to understand why I feel the way I do

[@LordVodka313]

That part about your mind coming to the same conclusion when you give yourself the benefit of the doubt? Brutal and relatable

[@kennyalbano1922]

Diagnosed with depression in middle school. Have struggled with other mental health issues at different times such as hallucinations and other things. What has helped me through the depression was once I felt normal again realizing that my different states of mind no matter how awful will change with time. Everyone’s state of mind will both get better and worse over time. I find that to be the most important and most difficult thing to grasp when I am having paranoid thoughts or auditory hallucinations or become catatonic or when I felt suicidal and depressed. I accept my life though I do have anxiety that I also struggle with as well as have chronic pain from headaches daily my whole life. Really becoming bad in college needing surgery. Now I’m on 5 types of pain related headaches medications that don’t stop the headaches still but they are significantly better than they use to be. I am happy with my life than I use to be despite being anxious and in pain.

[@Chizypuff]

Recently I've come to realize I may be disassociating. I don't get out of depressive states by learning to be hopeful, or because life gets better, I've just trained myself to be so good at not thinking about it. I just turned 27, I should have gone mad by now but instead maintain willfully ignorance at the cost of not 'progressing' in life

[@cleansent]

One of the most true statements i've ever heard in life is "Ignorance is bliss"

[@hunterkline7972]

Yeah. I got to a point at one point where I was just tired of being depressed so I simply stopped thinking depressing thoughts and it helps a lot.

[@kevinlow69420]

Same but I recently turned 30 and with stress due to monetary, job uncertainty, mortality and girl reasons, I blew up. I went to the doctor and I'm now on anti depressants. I think if guns were legal 50/50 I would've put a handgun in my mouth and pulled the trigger. When the doctor asked if I had suicidal thoughts I told them no, but I'm telling you guys. This is a secret ok.

[@maguire4428]

@@kevinlow69420 bro, if you’re serious you need to let a doctor know

[@kevinlow69420]

@@maguire4428 I went to the doctor and I've been on antidepressants for 2 months already.

[@justsomerandomwords.]

This is the truth! Say it louder please! I've been struggling for years. My worst enemy is literally myself. It's like your whole body is working against you. Even if you know it and know what you should do you somehow can't.

[@notrhythm]

analysis paralysis

[@mikasolae]

Yeah, my worst enemy is myself, but self control help, i hope you get better at self control :), learn it, master it! Leave this world good.

[@annaairahala9462]

Yes! I feel like it's hard to explain to people why this is and why I end up hating myself, but it's something common for depressed people

[@Blade.5786]

I think it's important to understand what is within your control and what is beyond it. Often people get depressed about things outside of their control. Many things like that could make you upset, such as the death of a loved one. You may feel as though you had some power in that matter, that maybe if you had spent more time with them, you'd feel better now. But in reality, you had no way to know and had no way to prevent it. It's better to be happy about the things you did do than to be sad about the ones you couldn't.

[@thomasvleminckx]

"I want to kill myself" "Nooooo you shouldn't!!" - series of eloquently explained, rational points "Understood, have a nice day"

[@MinecraftMonkey23]

w comment

[@user-ir8qh9yj3y]

When I told my therapist why I wanted to die, when i explained the thought process behind it, she actually (reluctantly) told me that it made sense how i phrased it. I forgot how i put it and i forgot what she advised but I'm alive and in a good spot in my life. I take meds and still struggle with keeping a handle on how i feel, but I'm better than i was, and at least right now, i don't want to die. But he's absolutely right about how just because you're depressed doesn't mean you lost your ability to reason, and when that awful conclusion feels inevitable, the suffering is immense. Anyway, thanks Dr. K for taking on this subject and i hope someone gets something out of this vid

[@scottnunnemaker5209]

I think being logical makes you depressed, not the other way around. To really be joyous and happy in this world you have to ignore so much of the world around you. You can’t think too hard on things or all you’ll see is every flaw.

[@yeetusthefetus3465]

Yeah that's definitely true. You need to ignore most of the world around you if you truly want to be happy. Ignorance is bliss after all, isn't it? You'd have to see the world with rose colored glasses. And as someone who is very depressed, I just can't seem to find my rose glasses, I know there's alot of things good in the world. I focus on small things that bring me happiness, tiny little things that I continue to live for. "I'll live just one more day, because I want to finish this story I'm reading" "I haven't eaten my favorite food yet, I can't die without eating my favorite stuff" "I want to complete this drawing before I die" "I want to die when it rains" "I want to see pretty clouds before I die" This is literally how I'm surviving, I guess subconsciously I'm trying to save myself? I keep going "not today, maybe tomorrow" "But tomorrow my mom will make my favorite,so maybe after that" and like that I've already gone through the last year. I was planning to die on my birthday, even before that actually. My birthday is in January, I was planning to end it before that, hypothermia is what I thought of, but I continued to waste my time and then winter was over, my birthday was gone, and I'm still here. Still procrastinating.

[@liadanryan-gerhardt7189]

​@@yeetusthefetus3465 keep fighting, friend. You are strong and there is hope.

[@koutsioj4762]

I was about to say something else but as I was writing this comment I understood why we do this and it all made sense to me... Our brains are wired to focus on the negatives and let them affect us much more than the positives. Since no matter what we do bad stuff affects us way more, we kinda have no choice but to ignore most of them to be happy. Because our brains are wired for survival not happiness and in our current world that often becomes a problem. I've thought about what you said before and I've come to the conclusion that "we have to lie to ourselves to become happy because in reality life sucks" but know I also recognise that the game of life is rigged because our brains kinda suck so we kinda HAVE TO un-rig it in whatever way we can. So I think it's ok. And... since our brains are biased anyway, who can truly say for certain what is logical and what's not... I know this comment is from 5 months ago but I still wanted to share my thoughts.

[@theradionicrevival8068]

i kinda disagree, not intentional, but it reads as those "only smart people are depressed or only dumb people see the value in being nice etc" type of vibes the crux of my point is i feel like at a certain point, a person at their most logical recognizes the value of seeing and confronting a situation for what is AND still choosing to be kind and look on the brightside while acknewlodging the darkness; because from a purely logical perspective, if you stopped, there'd be no coming back from that darkness. its hard but i feel a balance is still possible despite being incredibly logistical

[@jessicac8090]

Thats very true. Sometimes I wish I wasnt such an overthinker and I wasnt so passionate about like society and overall wellbeing of people. It would make it much easier to ignore all the problems around me if I was ignorant

[@zhenren9703]

When they do pull themselves out, they're some of the wisest people you'll meet. No pain no gain.

[@SeyDav]

+1! Yes!!!

[@GoldenMushroom64]

@ASDFGHJKL-uf8xsI hope you get help. I mean that in a good way. Please stay and know that you’re needed

[@connornicholas5227]

@ASDFGHJKL-uf8xsI know what you mean. It feels like you and I are trapped in this enslaving world with no where to turn. In the end, none of us truly have freedom as a whole. Hang in there friend, let’s chat maybe sometime.

[@Remedy462]

I would rather have never had major depression in the first place than have some trivial, "wisdom."

[@ErenJaegerTheRealOne]

You are killing it with this content.

[@belle7437]

I had an episode while at work earlier. Everyone around me is chaotic and even my brain inside wants to yell at me for thinking so negatively. My thoughts just can’t fight the overwhelming emotions I was feeling. I knew that it wasn’t normal. It felt like I was about to explode. It got to the point that my eyes were so teary. I didn’t show that to my colleagues of course but once I got home, I cried out loud. My pillow was soaked from my tears because I’ve been covering my whole face whilst crying. Yes, I’ve been trying to unalive myself. Sometimes it gets too much. I was at my breaking point earlier. I don’t ever want to go through that again.

[@HilaryB.]

This is true, we know what we NEED to do, we just can't find the motivation. Which is why CBT (cognitive behavioural therapy) is a waste of time and money. They tell you WHAT you need to do (which we already know) but don't tell you the 'how'. Then they tell you 'you have to make the commitment ', which effectively, shifting the blame onto YOU when it fails.

[@SeyDav]

+1! Therapy actually made me worse because of this. But I was that deep that i couldn t let the "professional help" go. I did start getting better when quitting therapy. Things made way more sense on my own, in conversation with myself. I was less frustrated and i no longer lost energy and motivation on it. Good luck to everyone. ❤

[@HilaryB.]

@@SeyDav I agree, the only one that can really work through it is ourselves sometimes. Good luck to you too !

[@annaairahala9462]

The whole point of cognitive behavioral therapy is to talk things through and figure out how to do things. You're never supposed to be told what you need to do especially because there is no single answer to this, and if that's what happened to you then something went wrong with your therapist as that's not CBT. I think you had a bad experience, so I wouldn't say it's a waste based off of that It does work for some people and at the end of the day it's better that you were able to try something than doing nothing at all

[@damien678]

I wonder if DBT (dialectical behavioural therapy) would help? As well as ACT (acceptance and commitment therapy) From what I know, they're more action-oriented approaches to therapy. I've heard people talk about DBT like the 'opposite' of CBT, that you act to change how you think with DBT while you think to change how you act with CBT. I've also heard ACT teaches that pain is normal, but suffering is optional.

[@aimichiko2378]

As far as I know, the therapist tries to figure out with you what's wrong and what you can do to fix it. The thing is, people need to realise that the therapist wont cure you, you have to cure yourself. the therapist is there to help you become more aware of yourself. most of the time, therapists don't know the how because people and problems are different and requires different solutions. I think people shift their responsibility onto the therapist (have to admit that some therapist really are flabby). when you arent being committed, its essentially your fault. you are the master of your own mind and when your faculties work against you, its essentially your fault. its okay not to know how to master your faculties and make yourself committed, look at why that is not working. I think a lot of depression could be solve with honest, compassionate and patience self-awareness. I don't want to make people feel bad, but i want to be honest about how I see things. Its really okay not to know how to do something, its a journey on how to figure it out.

[@Pyre]

I've never once been *wrong* about a thing that upsets me while depressed. It's just that, in addition to the world at large objectively being horrible for the entirety of human history, when you're low enough it becomes harder or impossible to *ignore* that truth. And ignoring it is the only way the human mind can actually function.

[@epictetus8028]

Yup, they say ignorance is bliss. I am very observant and am a systems thinker. Which means I see all the shit going on, and then see the bigger picture effects of that, so get quite depressed.

[@galpinklilyempire6905]

God loves you and hears for you , are not alone . I don’t know what like being depressed. Winnie the Pooh or Care Bears ? They will show you how to get out of problem . You are an adult don’t watch them , just know , I see your struggle , the best way to go to a therapist , then phychiatrist, keep striving , don’t give up , u can teach other who to fight depression someday.

[@theordinary1059]

I don't struggle with hopelessness anymore, I can see clearly that there are steps to be taken that will bring me out of depression given time and due diligence. Previously I've been nihilistic because I've seen no future that Id prefer to the present. But now I can see that there is no mystery and I recognize that divising a clear, practical plan is much easier than I've previously thought. My issue now us one of motivation. As soon as I wake up I am carpetbombed by anxiety and emotional pain. After sitting with this for a while, the sensation of pain drifts into an extremely intense longing and feeling of loss for an intimate partner. I've been alone my whole life, not that long given I'm only 20, but I have such a strong need for physical and emotional intimacy and vulnerability that I become paralyzed every morning and night which is typically when I become aware of it. In the mornings I become so lonely and feel so isolated and disconnected that all I want to do is sleep and fantasize about a reality I have never lived. Depression robs you of the tools needed to dismantle it, aand thats what I'm struggling with.

[@whitemakesright2177]

If lots of intelligent, logical people are depressed, maybe the problem isn't them. Maybe the problem is a deeply sick environment.

[@ddp47297]

Reality is inherently depression inducing and it takes delusion to be happy.

[@chan.username]

Pretty real, I try to explain what depression is like to those who don't understand and whenever they come up with an idea there's a way to logically counter it towards depression. I've tried for years to understand life with not bias one way or another and the only thing I can say is we're here now and we don't know what'll happen next so why not just stay here

[@Dmoskians]

Depression isn't logical. If you ran on logic you'd be less depressed, one is depressed because of their situation and if you analyse and recognise why you're depressed, then youll change your situation and be less depressed because you wont be living such a depressed life. Lets say you lost your job or got dumped as a catalyst, if you ran on logic you would improve yourself instead of doing things that make you more depressed like drugs. Because in 6 months youll be guaranteed a better position in life despite your current emotions. Would you rather be depressed in rehab, or depressed with a 6pack? One begets more depression the other does not.

[@chan.username]

@@Dmoskians that's called situational depression. Clinical depression is there with you regardless your position in life. People with depression often do follow logic and do the things that are supposed to make the not only feel better but be better and yet depression stays for a lot of people. That's why it's easy for people in these situations to have a good debate for their own side because that is simply their own reality

[@timjohnson6957]

@@Dmoskians The thing is that when one suffers such a defeat or loss it becomes hard to pull themselves out. It's not as simple as you make it out to be because depressed people know how to escape it, they just don't have the will or energy to. So they run and hide behind things like technology and drugs that give quick dopamine boosts and result large dopamine crashes which turns into a vicious cycle of never ending depression.

[@Dmoskians]

@@chan.username See i don't really believe thats naturally occuring unless you have some sort of brain damage. For you to just be depressed and not be able to do anything about it is a cop out. I think you can be depressed if something happened or you lead a depressing life. And yeah you can be depressed for very long periods of time if you choose to submit to it and believe you can't escape it 100%. But i dont think its like cancer where you can't undo it on your own. I think if you change your life you can get out of it. In tribal parts of Africa they don't even recognize it as a concept. Which would mean its a 1st world societal issue in which has been developed from the way we live and beliefs we adopt as a society. I also have never met a logical person with depression nor was i logical when depressed.

[@Dmoskians]

@@timjohnson6957 Exactly, which isn't logical. Its not logical to be depressed

[@fozzt]

This is what i was/am going through. The therapist i had was terrible. She wanted to just get rid of me after the ten week "treatment" plan. They do this to everyone. When i told her i needed more time and i wasnt okay. She then just said no no we spoke about what you need to do (breathing exercises etc) so thats that. I was so angry. I tried to explain my problems to her but she just made it seem like they meant nothing. She then said that im in a unqiue situation and implied she couldnt help me.

[@thaloblue]

Those therapists are weak and lazy, or gave up. Find a trauma informed therapist. They know why, despite planned solutions, the heavy emotions stick around

[@feels.9304]

Try reading Lost Connections by Johann Hari. It didn't demolish my melancholy, but it made me realize a few things about the nature of depression. Also, I don't trust them docs. They're not all the same, but the overwhelming majority of them are in it for the paycheck and the status. Fight for yourself. If you don't nobody will.

[@galpinklilyempire6905]

That is not nice , that a therapist gives up on you becuase of your feelings . A person telling you are unique without hearing from your side correctly , it has tod with people brain wiring and attention span on certain things . . i know what is like having something strange and people assuming I have something else . I will not give up on something . People who have depression have a reality of how they view things and so when they get the wrong help their feelings are dismissed . You are not along . You can share your feeling hear . There are millions of people who have depression and worst , you aren’t alone . I am not a depressed human . I want to hear your story .

[@fozzt]

@@galpinklilyempire6905 honestly alot of it is physical and verbal abuse from my family and then my parents allowing others to verbally and physically abuse me. They now wonder why all four of their children don't care about them and are a mess. Because of all of this I never did well in school. This was also due to going to a really bad school who didn't teach properly and being treated differently by classmates (I was overweight, short and had an an open bite, I'm still short). I was harassed for being different when I was out with my family somewhere religious and then when I was literally on my home from school. So before I even turned 17, the damage was done. I'm 25 now and I'm struggling. I'm trying to change things but it seems impossible. Especially things like my height. Which I know is silly, it doesn't even bother me. But the fact that I get harassed for it, or treated differently. That's what I hate

[@lirainy4201]

Yeah, I don't have depression but sometimes I feel unreasonably sad for a long time, I just remember all the bad things that might happen in the future ( not necessarily) and that drains me so hard

[@brentekuntimeddisaster7137]

Sometimes I have to remind myself to eat, or get out of bed, or clean myself, or go outside, or to talk to people, or sleep. I usually find myself lying in bed in the dark doom scrolling all day trying to escape my reality and pretend I’m not depressed. But that is only 50% of my life, the other 50% is running around the house super hyper and messing with my brothers, while constantly goofing off and laughing, not taking anything serious, and constantly snacking on something. Listening to music while reading for hours only to come downstairs to eat or mess with my siblings and play video games. All happy go lucky while inside I’m dying because I’m not living up to my full potential and the great expectations my family has for me. Yep those are my 2 modes. I randomly switch between the 2 with no known pattern.

[@Saturn691]

Fellow depressed person here: In my experience, it can be because the struggles we go through sometimes are situations thrown onto us by our circumstances or by society that are out of our control. We see the way out, we see ways to fix things, but sometimes its either out of our control, or something totally superficial that we have to learn to get over, or we'll fall deeper and deeper into the depression. You probably get what I mean if you relate to the feeling of "I don't want to die, but I also don't want to exist right now." or "I wish I could just jump to a better time when I have my shit together." We know there will be better days, but the struggle it takes to get there keeps us low mentally and emotionally. Even physically, especially when paired with ADHD. We know how to fix our situation, but that's gonna take a while, and to be quite frank, I just want it to happen right now, so I'll just do nothing. :)

[@Subsistence69]

I partake in the passive ideation of suicide basically. I would never do it myself but if I died in a car crash tomorrow, that would be absolute bliss, itd finally be over. Someone described it as being stranded in the suicide ocean but never drowning

[@Artur-kp4hj]

You guys are fucking sad. Eat healthy, have longer sleep, put work in the gym, get rid of self pity, have a goal. Also don't go on the internet often as it drains life out of everyone.

[@strawberrymilkshake112]

I don't want to die, I don't want to exist. What do I do?

[@andyc9902]

Does changing the City help?

[@AK-vx4dy]

"Normals" are on kind of high - like bees or ants but not from queen but from own body/brain, depressed are "sober" and see that life is unberable without that "high".

[@suqma]

Huh

[@mrgalaxy396]

More like depressed people are intoxicated with morphine while healthy people are enduring the pain. That "high" is a functional part of your brain that we evolved with to survive in this world. Of course everything goes to shit if it malfunctions, like a car that can't run if its fuel injection system fails. You can't drive a broken car. Everyone else on the road that is driving has a functional car. It's up to you to fix your car if you want to continue driving and not coming to the conclusion "well everyone's cars should be breaking down and we all should be stranded on the road". That's not how the world works.

[@suqma]

You sound like one of the people who think it's cool or edgy to be depressed

[@kevinlow69420]

2deep4me

[@AK-vx4dy]

@@suqma I have PDD(dysthymia) inborn or developing since I rember so I really couldn't say how is not to be. I don't think it is cool or edgy, but in my specific case uncommon, so my thoughts on subject can be or seem odd or maybe I explain them badly. Also my thoughts maybe drastically diffrent than person with Big or Major Depression (MDD). For almost 50 years I almost obsessively observed other people trying to grasp a hint what I'm doing wrong or peek what I should be doing to experience some intensity of they joy moments instead of bleak "relief" and sadness just after or how to imitate some behavior to pass as "normal", trying to "outsmart" my built diffrent or defected brain.

[@jessicac8090]

You know its interesting to hear this because Im very much logical, like many people would call me scatter brained cause I act like an idiot around others but when faced with things like depression and unaliving I understand myself well. I know what events helped trigger unhealthy habits and how that spiraled down into how I behave today. I scare myself sometimes because of how easily im able to break down prevous experiences while being disconnected. And how I can think so cold heartedly about current relationships and what alternatives i could take if they crumble. Im gonna bring this up with my therapist next week, thanks!

[@joered4689]

Never heard someone put it so accurately

[@nevermore1570]

Best advice is to do something that distracts you from your thoughts. Even if its just going out an walking or something, otherwise you end up in a looping spiral of negative thoughts. A change in environment can help, just got to get motivated to push through it.

[@strawberrymilkshake112]

That's bad too. Once you don't have anymore distractions, you realize it that you're just escaping and not really doing anything. It's inconsistent and everything will feel pointless.

[@antimatteranon]

that's literally just coping.

[@Intrafacial86]

Depression tends to make one want to take the path of least resistance, slipping out the back door of situations - including life.

[@MaryDunford]

For some, perhaps. I was more of an 'attack it head-on' in kind of person.

[@I_am_a_man_of_science]

Tf am i depressed?

[@MonroeSim]

@@I_am_a_man_of_science no, you’re human

[@OverRule1]

It's normal to get depressed at least one week out of the month. If it's more often then that then you need to change your health and physical activity to be better

[@Newbie122]

Chant - Hare Krishna Hare Krishna Krishna Krishna Hare Hare Hare Ram Hare Ram Ram Hare hare And be happy

[@flightmaster1213]

Been there done that, just now starting to get out of it. It can be done but it takes a lot. You’re doing really great things here man, please keep it up.

[@nevahknowman2886]

The day I started thinking logically is the day I got a depression

[@chickenmonger123]

The fact is living isn’t logical precisely. It requires finding meaning. Meaning is the admixture of two things. Meaning is the fulfilling of an accepted goal, and it’s the process within ones emotional self that is engaged in that cycle. This requires two things to buy into. The belief that whatever this thing you approach is worth doing, and the satisfaction to prove it as you make it happen. The issues are two fold. Either you don’t know what will be satisfying, or you aren’t personally able to muster the emotional wherewithal to see such things through. Both are necessary. The construct that you buy into, has to be properly assembled produce a meaningful set of tasks. Your mind and body need to be properly working to sustain your mental energy and satisfaction as you go about them. The problems that arise with these two principles is that it isn’t always clear what constitutes a proper by belief system. It was clearer when certain threats were closer, and certain beliefs more widespread. The other is that it isn’t clear all the time where the breakdown with ones emotional and mental core are. They can be situational, or inherent biologically. They could be because you need to fix your beliefs. Therapy does some things. A lot of things actually. It can’t fix the issues themselves though. An individual ultimately has to fight within themselves to set them in place, and choose to hammer away. Prescription Drugs can only relieve so much too. Self administration even less. I found mine. But mine is not yours, and can’t really substitute yours. 50% of it’s not helpful. 25% would harm you. 25% might be applicable. 100% requires active engagement with to test for yourself.

[@mrgalaxy396]

Well said mate. That's why it's such a tough condition, it attacks and eats away at the very thing that can treat it, which is your drive. Like a surgeon in critical condition trying to operate on their own body to save their own life. Everyone else is a nurse, they can hand you the tools you need, but at the end of the day you have to make the cut and endure what comes with it and all that in a state that is very hard to operate in.

[@vunguyentr5561]

You can't logic yourself out of depression, emotion and personal experience determines how human functions and behaves. I f*cking hate it when someone argue how I should live my life, but good deed alone counted

[@staceymalchow4528]

Totally been there. The coldness of that place scared me too. I didn't do what I wanted (obviously), but the thing that really tortured me when talking to some crisis counselors was not helpful. They tried to get me to attach personal reasons to not end myself by using my children as positive reasons to stay. I have felt like I failed them and the reminder that they count on me didn't help me. It somewhat reinforced what I was feeling and I think it prolonged what was going on because the situation that was causing my issue was not improving.

[@aislingoriordan658]

I remember when I was a teenager and a friend of mine was suicidal. I spent a lot of time back then talking to my friends with their issues (a few who were also suicidal), but this guy was a brick wall. So much so that teenage me was almost convinced by his logic, thinking "yes there's nothing to be done." My thoughts freaked me out, and I never told him that I was starting to agree with him, and instead told him I needed space and he needed to talk to other people about this. Thankfully, he got the help he needed and he's still a good friend of mine today, 8 years later, but I'll never forgive myself for thinking that way and for not being the help he needed.

[@Star-um9cz]

So you never truly gave up, even when your thoughts blockaded you. You are a rare, good person, and an angel of a friend. Even from the better people I’ve seen, none would stay this committed to saving someone.

[@TheSleepSteward]

Man… I hate it. I wish we could find some cure for this god awful disease of a condition. It’s just this parasite that drains you of your life, your enjoyment and not even the feeling of joy but the feeling of literally anything.

[@pom791]

Look up cognitive behavioral therapy, proven as a cure for depression without medications. You can get David D Burns Felling good book.

[@earthfighter8711]

I've never had clinical depression, there only was a time in my life where, looking back now, it's very likely that I did have at least mild depression. I had other mental illnesses instead and what I can say from that is, being in nature helps so fucking much. It was the only place where my mind would get calm and it gave me the strength and hope to keep fighting. I'm not talking about taking a walk or going hiking with others, if you have the opportunity go somewhere where there is just nature, no other humans, no concrete and just ... be.

[@ralphiesarch8980]

I've read stories of people curing their depression through a lifestyle change. Doctors almost never talk about that and how people have been cured, they just want to push pills. Some stories say religion, becoming physically healthy, and/or a change of job/location/living style cured them. Something to look into.

[@sebaschan-uwu]

Depression is not a disease... unless you have major depressive disorder you don't have a disease, it's just a normal emotion you naturally get to discourage you from doing pointless things that waste time and energy. Have you ever heard of seasonal depression? A completely normal reaction where you get depressed during the winter to discourage you from going outside and foraging for food in hazardous weather. Depressiong can be caused by anything that makes you feel hopeless or like there's no point to what you are doing. The reason that feeling exists is to discourage you from doing things that make you feel that way so you seek out things that make your mental health better. Conveniently, things that are also generally good for people to be doing are beneficial to mental health.

[@gardeninginthedesert]

I began to suffer from it 31 years ago, it started as post natal depression. I didn't need medication all the time, i would be on and off bit as time went by the off could last as long as 3 years. I don't mean off as in no depression but off medication but being able to cope. The depression was always there. Two years ago i strated doing keto to lose weight, i needed yo drop 30 kgs, but the bigger benefit was the depression disappeared! I'd write about it but I was so used to it i didn't really think about it alongside keto, my goal was weight loss. Now i keep doing keto to keep the depression away. Maybe you could look in to it.

[@thecouncil8973]

Yep. I've repeatedly tried to see life from different perspectives, weighed things, taking in how people deal/cope with their own lives and if I can adapt some of their ways but I somehow always end up with the same conclusions. Before I hit 18 (I'm now 21), I was so sure things would probably go worse for me (based on how most mental disorders progress when not treated properly), and I was right. It hurts when people, even loved ones and psychiatrists(!!!), downplay your struggles as if you're not trying. Most of us actually do and most of those who judge us don't even try to understand or at least just keep their uneducated opinions to themselves.

[@TeruNoir]

looking life from a different perspective is what helped me a lot with it, since depression destroys your sense of identity, if you make an alter ego for each worldview you'll deal with it better

[@rw5622]

It's not that you aren't trying... It's probably more likely that you are just doing it wrong. Often times depressed people try their best but nothing works. In a lot of things, sometimes it just takes someone smarter than you to help guide you to the right path. But even that is a struggle sometimes because people think they've "tried everything". And it's simply not true. They haven't tried everything. You've only tried the stuff that doesn't work.

[@Intrafacial86]

Title was cut off on my screen and I only saw the “lo” in “logical”, so my brain autocompleted it: “Why depressed people are very lonely” And I was like _pretty sure that’s backwards, m’dude._ 😂

[@AbyssR292]

I was one of those people for years (still recovering), counselling helped immensely.

[@Ignozi]

What helped you recover if most of your depressed thoughts were logical and true? Meditation?

[@Awen_newA]

​​​@@Ignozi for me it was stop resisting. I realise that pain is inevitable and by resisting that reality, results in suffering. Also practising mindfulness. Where I'm learning to be aware of the fact "it's just thoughts". But default I tend to identify to the thoughts therefore I experience it too intensely. So by learning to observe them I already stepped out of the 'identify with' experience. So for example, "I AM worthless" and fully being convinced of that I realise it's a thought. So it becomes "I feel worthless, however I AM not" No more identifying. ❤ All the best with this human experience 🙏and give kudos to you for asking!

[@AbyssR292]

@@Ignozi The therapy I did was called “ACT: acceptance and commitment therapy”, one technique I learned is called “cognitive defusion”, I sincerely recommend you look into cognitive defusion on KZbin, I think other people would explain better then I can. Also self compassion is extremely important, you NEED to give yourself self compassion, it can be hard but try to remember that the human condition is that we are all flawed in our ways, and you are not worthless because of your flaws, if you think people are all perfect then I have a bridge to sell you in the Pacific Ocean. Remember this key information, “thoughts are just thoughts” with cognitive defusion you learn to disconnect “YOURSELF” I.e the “you” part from the constant stream of passing thoughts that pass through your mind. That’s the gist of it I think. I’m not a mental health professional. 👌 Humans don’t and can’t run on pure logic, we are very complicated emotional beings as well as logical ones. 🫶hope this helped. ✋ Edit: mindfulness like the other comment said, extremely important.

[@TheLifeOfNurse]

So many people don't understand this. It's hard to talk to family and friends sometimes because even though their intentions are good, I'm 20 steps ahead of you as far as my options. As a critical care nurse, I often have to convince family members into starting comfort measures on a dying relative knowing that the alternative to accepting death is much more pain and suffering with the same result. I am really fucking good at determining quality of life. So when it comes to my own, again I am 20 steps ahead of you.

[@CoffeeSnep]

Been dealing with this a little bit lately. Im diagnosed with depression but handle it without meds since mine isn't so terrible and I prefer to not take those. Right now im not quite in a depression but im in a rut. Ive got this really awful professor this semester. Im a senior now and shes legitimately the worst professor ive ever had. Shes utterly merciless when I know the other professor for the same course isnt. Ive got a C in the course now and since im going to clinicals after college i need good grades. Ive never gotten a C at this college before. Ive been trying and everything but unlike in my other courses in the past it seems like no amount of studying helps since this specific professor's course is such bs. Anyway, just this last weekend i kinda slacked even though i knew i needed to get my paper done. I knew i needed to work on it the whole time and in other semesters I would have but not this time. Its just hard to care anymore even when i know what i need to do. Paper ended up being late by a few hours so ill be losing 20% of the credit on it after all.

[@elram2649]

It's not that it's "incredibly scary" for the individual himself... But it will be so for those who are not logic-minded, i.e., most persons. Just give the individuals suffering from this some space and support through simply; listening. Once you listen to them, you may begin to understand and a whole new world will open up for you. Do not try to reason with them so much because trust me; they're way better than you in that department. And 99.99% of the time, they're unquestionably correct... not because I (nor they) may say so (because they won't - they're too honest to do that or be that low a person) but rather because, they're actually correct and it's you who doesn't get it (i.e., how simple the whole situation really is). Just listen, don't simply hear, but actually listen and support them by showing support. How? Simple: if you don't understand them, be honest about it; they already know most persons will not understand anyway (even when described to them 40 times in a row). They won't blame you for not understanding - given they expect you'll most likely won't anyways, no biggie. However, they could hold it against you for being hard-headed and not listening. If you assume you know what they're saying, or reinterpret the straightforward, honest words they're saying; that's a big mistake on your part: you have to take them at their word, they're way more honest and respectful than you think you yourself may be. 👈💯 So, take them at their word; that's in the end what they want; to be listened to, not just heard and reinterpreted. Cognitively recognize the simple fact that they're above you in this area. Do not dismiss this simple fact nor dismiss them. If they've let you speak to them about what they're going through, trust me, that takes a lot of guts for them to do (as they normally keep to themselves); and so, recognize the value in them opening up to you and you having shown interest in them. Give them credit for doing this because opening up to you, for them, it's like walking through a potential mindfield that you yourself will lay against them when it was you who approached them in the first place only to end up not listening, assuming, denying, and obfuscating - denying their life experience and thus; relevancy, place in society, and existence. 👈 When this is understood, you can clearly see and recognize wherefrom the internal and external talks of suicide originate. And so, DO NOT DISMISS THEM nor the opportunity to understand them. You cannot play them; don't even try, they have no trouble seeing through deceit. If you try to fool them or peg projections or ill-conceived notions, or interpretations on them, out of respect for you; they'll most likely get up and leave you talking to the wall... Because that's how you were just treating them, you might as well talk to yourself; the wall itself. Don't dismiss them. They're very smart. They're very honest. Their personal moral standards are high. They have tremendous potential for themselves and the world. Simply understand: What may come easily for most of us to do daily; for them trying to do the simple things the world does day in and day out, is hell on earth itself. There's like a mental disconnect between the knowing and the actual doing. It's not lazyness, it's not avoidance (trust me - they have the best intentions, goals, and aims) they wanna do so many good things so badly but can't focus for long enough nor take the required actions all the way through... This is why they can't seem to finish projects or finish them way too late for people to value or recognize them or their worth. And so, due to these shortcommings, they withdraw themselves even further to avoid the shame and spare society. All in all, you can easily see they're some of the best kindhearted, good people. They just need guidance to focus and do the things that seemingly come so easily for the rest of society. So, teach them how to fish in life. It's that simple.

[@welshy8866]

Thank you a lot for writing this, it might be one of the best description i have heard. May God bless you, really.

[@rasmachris94]

As a depressed person, the biggest thing is confirmation and validation not reassurance. Dont argue with me on every step about why the way I feel is wrong. About how there is so much beauty in the world. About how sad others will be. I know all of that, these are things you tell yourself when you're depressed as you try to determine the cause initially - the problem is that I'm fundamentally disconnected from those experiences. I dont want to put glitter over a turd and have you call it a cup cake. The situation is bad. I know the situation is bad and I know it will fester if I leave it any longer 'cause it reached this point because I let it fester in the first place. I'm stuck and cant move forward for usually valid reasons. I can reason myself into doing something temporarily, but inspiration is a flash in the pan. Just because i know the cause does not mean i can cure the symptom. Just because I have strategies, does not mean that those strategies wont fail me. If I have one piece of advice for anyone talking to someone depressed it's this: Be understanding and validating. Validation is a buzz word that gets thrown around a lot so I'll make it clear. Validation is understanding the perceptive realities of another person, even if you disagree personally. "I can see why you'd find that difficult." "I get where you're coming from, If I were in your position I'd really be struggling too." Assurance is pretending 'reality' [which is just your own personal perception] is not aligned with their experiences/perceptions. "It'll get better" based on what? "There's so much more in your life to experience!" When you know you wont amount to anything and have funds to have these experiences because you cant hold things down to develop finances competently. I'd rather have someone tell me "Well that fucking sucks, that's got to be difficult to deal with". Than someone try to reassure me with falsehoods about hope in a future I dont even exist in.

[@onedayiwillbegone2366]

My family tricked me to go see a psychiatrist and I shut him down, well, not really tricked when I saw it coming from miles away, but like you said, deceit. I just went along to see what shenanigan are they trying to do. Psychiatrist that deal with mental patients are supposed to gain their trust but using deceitful ways, you already lost the battle before even beginning it. So stupid.

[@hochminus-iy7ro]

Very good comment, you clearly have experience in some way or/and you're naturally very empathic and smart. There is only one sentence I have to disagree. 'They just need guidance' is a cross generalization. Some might just need that, yes. Others might have very other needs. A depression can be as different to another, as people can be. Some might need a different diet, medication, sport, change of environment, therapy, just silence or something else. Others might be so depressed and have suffered too much or have even reasonably no outlook for themself so that practically nothing really can cure them (while i would argue that there are always ways to drastically improve the situation, even in cases of strong chronic depression, the right medication and therapy can help). Listening, truthfully trying to understand might be one of the most important things, someone can do, to help depressed people, as you have so wondefully described. But be careful, if you bring some people to talk about their depression and you 'just listen', they might rationalize their situation coming to undesired conclusions. Ideally, this is done by professionals. If you talk with people about their depression, truthfully listening to try understand is one thing. But also be honest if you get scared or hurt by what they say, as calm as appropriately possible. Also keep in mind, that only or too much talking about the depression itself can worsen a depression. Sometimes the main activity of being depressed is enduring the own thoughts about being depressed. It can be wise to chose the right environment for such talks, considering a pause of the talks and much more, but comment is too long already. Wish you all the best.

[@elram2649]

@@hochminus-iy7ro Thanks for your kind and accurate commentary! 🤗 It's true. As individuals, we all need different approaches and optimally to have them be tailored-made to every individual's circumstances. In a perfect society, no expense would be spared to achieve this. Obviously and sadly, we're clearly not there as a society. The priorities of governments and societies alike aren't focused, they're errant and sorely lacking in regards to the subject itself. I've always thought that two kinds of classes were missing from the public school classrooms: Business and Investment classes and, Mental Health classes. Both are crucial in determining one's overall stability in life. Imagine if they were mandatory and be taught from 7th grade all the way through the 12th grade. I posit that most all individuals in society would markedly be better off at all levels in life. It would be in my estimation, a comprehensive, positive start of an approach. I'm sure this alone would improve things overall. The best to you and yours as well. 🙂

[@HealthyGamerGG]

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[@porothashawarma2339]

Do psychedelics help in these cases ? I think for me personally it’s helped to break that inner narrative ,what do you think doc ?

[@Yaardennchuuk]

​@@porothashawarma2339 There is a reason why they say don't do drugs... because drugs only make most things worse. The only drug, besides a multivitamin, that I'm on is trazodone, which helps me get to sleep, seeing that it is a sedative. Without it, madness ensues, because I become sleep deprived, and slowly begin to grow insane.

[@kayreeve.author]

Its so true. I wrote a book about depression. Then I couldn't pull myself out of depression despite everything I knew. This told me there was another cause but my GP wouldn't believe me. I started presenting like early alzheimers, so I ordered private tests and found I had many food allergies. It's amazing how quickly you can recover when you find the real root cause and make the right changes. Sometimes it's hard to see what changes you need for yourself when you're in the middle of it all, or it's for a reason more complex.

[@ThisIsTori_]

Sometimes you just gotta sit in that discomfort and understand it’ll pass eventually. Just keep hanging on. You’re too valued and loved. Be gentle with yourself.

[@danielleo6855]

One reason to be the kind of person who validates others emotions, be a healing and calm presence in people's lives, connection is a balm for a soul in pain

[@stuartchapman5171]

People who have suffered all their lives, especially in a society not built for them, have incredible insight, scary yet irrefutable logic. Most societies are based on illogical constructs, outdated redundant traditions, superstitions, and religions. We see through all the BS elements with ease. This is because we are not yours and a part of you, you've told us so often we aren't in the club. We have no agency, no allegiance, so the flaws are obvious. The logic is really sound. People may get angry when faced with it, get over it. It's one of the rare occasions when we get things right. Our day in the sun.

[@Meccarox]

Exactly

[@c.a.fontaine1074]

I used to be like this, for years my mom pushed me to get help, when I eventually did I regretted being miserable for so long. It's hard to get help, especially when you're stubborn, but it's important to take that leap and admit you need help.

[@joneogmatteCOD]

Yes very true. Once you’re out of it, it can be extremely hard to realize that you’re out as well. Logic is The only thing that aligns you with reality, so feelings tend to not be focused on. Loss of my own wellbeing and selflove Are things that I dont Even consider once I’m depressed. One thing I do when I find myself in a rut is that I document everything. Daily reminders, alarms for eating, check in etc. Fulfilling lists is something I’ve found to work to some degree.

[@mangodabean]

This was honestly such a good video!!!

[@davidm6329]

Hope tends to require faith. Faith tends to require the absence of logical analysis. That's how logical analysis can be the death of hope.

[@Dee-iy9uq]

🎯

[@lemon-yi6yh]

Yes, hope is a delusion. One way to escape depression is to embrace delusion. Thinkers have observed this all across time, but here comes modern psychology telling you depression is a cognitive distortion. It's exactly the opposite, the failure of necessary illusions. Check out Ernest Becker's work and Terror Management Theory.

[@SilentRunningRedux]

@@lemon-yi6yh insightful, thnx

[@lostsoul4317]

"whether to live as a monster or die as a good man?"

[@bow_wow_wow]

This is where mindfulness meditation practice has been helpful to me. When I can't reason my way out of my problems, I need to at least be able to get off the train for a few minutes. That can be enough sometimes to get me out of a mentally tight spot for an hour or more of the day.

[@Jparks]

This is absolutely me. I argue with myself about why I’m feeling so bad, trying to convince myself that I should be happy given my life circumstances.

[@galpinklilyempire6905]

Accept you are not a happy person , that you don’t have to fight something that is not in your control. You go to self care , do something that you used to do as hobbie that you enjoy , journal your feeling , listen to real axing music , do funny comedy , reflection , routine be yourself. I heard you . I am here for you

[@galpinklilyempire6905]

Your blaming yourself why you are feeling bad , But you are trying to put a face that you are not . Which is not true reality of how you are feeling . Accept that you feeling bad , explain I’m journal , what things causes a certain way ,, what things make you feel happy . each day write down how you feel your feelings , explain what things you can do to change or of reach and wish you could happen .

[@galpinklilyempire6905]

your brain is wired that no Matter what help you get things don’t help you out , you can get yourself out of it. I am going to tell you a story , god says you are important to and validates your feelings. you are heard . I had a dream about you that you had you do what you love and you find youself and are happiest person in your heart , To discover the treasure of the heart , you would have to make a map , what things you wish to achieve , your feelings , what things you used love as kid , or miss , do you wish to travel someday ,, do a fun bath for relaxing , go the 99cent abut decorations , put them on your bath tub , the. Make journal , and color the top of it and design it ,While you are inside , “ said “ I feel bad about my self , do nothing about things I can’t control , god told me I am strong person , and even though I am at my weakest point , art is the inspo for to cure the heart of those who cannot see the truth “.. You are depressed and you can’t control , you don’t have Awareness . Serena is the truth of descovering the reality . Tell if this help you . Message me asap . I will be waiting for you to respond . If you don’t respond , I will bother you again until you do .

[@Callummullans]

Sometimes feeling depressed is a healthy response but because people try to avoid it or manage it rather than process and experience it, it ends up becoming depression. The more thoughts you have the more obscured your emotions can become and maybe this is why depressed people are so logical.

[@vgrants1717]

Absolutely true. I’ve been diagnosed as Neurodivergent (basically having a different thought process than normal people) because I think through everything logically. Only recently I’ve started to realize that I’ve probably had extreme depression for about 8 years.

[@thersten]

It's so important to develop that inner voice that sees the positive. That best friend voice that loves you and can see your potential. It can be so hard if you've never had that. But you must develop it or life can become too painful.

[@kinshra639]

Fellas this was literally me every step of the way. Even at my lowest, and considering suicide, my brain was always breaking things down into statistics or logic. You cannot reason your way out of being depressed. I learned this the hard way but I made it out on the other side. Talk to a therapist or talk to your doctor. It is going to suck and you're going to think "Oh I don't need that I'm not that bad" or "people have it worse than me" but stick it out. You deserve happiness brother!

[@MELLMAO]

My psychiatrist wanted to first try treatment without meds, which I was okay with. But when after a couple visits I had to tell her that logically she is making a lot of sense and I completely agree with her, but my emotional part of brain simply does not internalize any of the things I know to be true. That's when she made a decision to start me on antidepressants alongside therapy. That was absolutely the best path to take

[@Cucababy5]

Antidepressants have really helped me too :) you'll get through it

[@confusedcookie8152]

@@tangomilano4503 Sometimes you have to

[@hareecionelson5875]

Philosophy tube did a great video about stoicism and CBT. In summary, CBT is great when externally your life is going well, but if your bad mood is caused by long-term societal problems, then CBT tries to make you satisfied with the status quo, when maybe it's society that should change.

[@vladislavkaras491]

Thanks for the short!

[@maefromnitw4091]

that's the problem for me, and i wonder if it's the problem for any other people - i can sit down and tell you all these reasons i feel this way and even explain why i know im probably wrong, being very self aware, but when i go home at the end of the day, i will still look in the mirror and think these things about myself. im not just thinking these things for no reason, i have thought it through, and i believe it. this is the way i, at my core, believe the world works, and no amount of convincing has fundamentally changed that

[@BarelyNoticeable]

In high school, I eventually got used to being depressed that it at one point became the comfortable place to resonate at. Eventually I learned how to get myself to ground zero but I never could take it further than that. To actually make myself *happy*. That’s something therapy dOesn’t teach. It teaches you to not be depressed, but it doesn’t teach you to not just be not depressed.

[@mitthrawnuruodo1730]

That’s something I’ve realized. When u get over depression and anxiety you realize you don’t know who you are without them.

[@ongarovbbb]

Depression is gay

[@TeruNoir]

@@mitthrawnuruodo1730 because it devoured your identity

[@TeruNoir]

When in high school i didn't had any ambition yet so i was comfy with depression, but now it is just a stone in my shoe

[@EdgyShooter]

Well jeez, never heard someone explain it so perfectly, that just absolutely got me as I've had such a hard time trying to describe it myself to others

[@Trammiliin]

I first saw this clip last year when I struggled a lot with depression and all sorts of issues. The knowledge that I can’t intellectualise or rationalise myself out of depression has been a huge help. Because this is what I do. I have an issue and then I analyse it and fix it. Turned out it does not work with depression. 😊

[@leonardosoza6467]

As a depressed person this really speaks to me, at the moment ive dealt with a lot of the trouble depression brought on to me, its not like i just stoped being depressed i still have those days when bring yourself tp do anything its a real challenge, but ive got to overcome this feeling, not fully that would be near imposible, but ive'd become much more active than i used to be, and i think its mainly fot two reasons, the first one its my mom, i began working with her on the family bussines at the beggining it was soo hard to begin the day, i just had a real hard time coming out of bed and dragging myself thru the day but as time passed it didnt get easier but i learned that if i get to push thru that beggining of the day what was left of it wasnt so much of a hassle the other thing was starting to workout, it was and certainly still is real hard to get myself wanting to go to the gym everyday, but having a partner made it so much easier, it wasnt like it just flipped the switch on me, but having another voice to push thru the one in my head telling me not to go helped, also the sensation of progress makes you feel like your actually doing something, one of the bigger parts of my depressions its the sense that everything its a waist ive gotten this feeling like im unnable to achieve anything and it just makes me stop trying, because if im not gonna achieve anything then might as well not even put in the effort, but being able to see my self putting more plates in the bar than before its exactly what i needed, even tho everyone can carry more than i do no one can take from me the feeling of having achieved something, my days arent any easier than they used to be, but ive'd learned to push thru the toughts and bring my self to do stuff, and also learned to try even when i feel like i wont achieve anything i just try too push thru it, hope someone read this and can relate, or get the inspiration to keep trying on life, my depression wont leave any time soon but at least i feel like im learning to live with it

[@Tletna]

I'm sad to say this is very true. I cannot say it is always true but it speaks to me and other down, depressed or suicidal people I've met. I was hoping this short would have something useful or positive to say at the end but sadly this video is more honest than a lot of them out there.

[@justanawkwardnerd]

It can make you feel even more depressed some times - knowing that you CAN do better, feeling to do so for no "real" reason, and failing anyway can feed into the despair sometimes. Can feed into self-hatred for your "personal failings" and it makes things worse, like a negative feedback loop.

[@imarandomperson761]

I've never seen anyone explain depression so well, you've literally made me understand more about myself lol

[@salvadorramirez4114]

The way I got over my addicting depression was by practicing being more extroverted. That meant being forgiving and tolerant of others. Also stopped trying to fix myself and just except myself so I can focus on other's.

[@grant1951]

I feel like in the darker parts of my life, I wanted to change and improve myself, but sometimes the thought that I can be better is more satisfying in the short term than actually doing it. Then one day you realize it’s just a repetitive cycle that you aren’t going to change no matter how long you hold it off, so you just might as well do something new. That was a big wake up call for me