The Most Dangerous Form Of Meditation

[@HealthyGamerGG]

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[@Bobysmuu]

@@HealthyGamerGG I had no idea u can flex your gooch

[@tor4472]

I know you probably won't see this, but just in case you do and have time to respond. I'm wondering what you think of meditation where you try to focus on nothing, no sensory information, no thoughts, just an internal emptiness you create inside, that couldn't possibly exist outside your head. I learned this meditation while reading notes by Bruce Lee and it's the one I practice the most when I remember to meditate, though it is difficult.

[@xXxKingjonxXx]

Can we please get a link to the source for 11:36?

[@cryptomaulvi3052]

Hey so, if you reply to comments, can you tell me if I want a huge list of possibly all the techniques or meditation practices, where can I find it? Or is it just research and note down approach?

[@cryptomaulvi3052]

Hey so, if you reply to comments, can you tell me if I want a huge list of possibly all the techniques or meditation practices, where can I find it? Or is it just research and note down approach?

[@Xanthanarium]

Based solely off of the thumbnail, I'm assuming this video is about concentrating my power through meditation until I turn into a lich, and frankly, I'm here for that.

[@HealthyGamerGG]

...some of us at HG would also be here for that, ngl

[@yesman7675]

Watched too much adventure time eh, doc?​@@HealthyGamerGG

[@j3ffn4v4rr0]

it only takes two hours

[@Xanthanarium]

ZERO context for this comment now

[@stormlord1984]

@@Xanthanarium ?

[@ann18o96]

So a 20 minute meditation can help center and reduce dissociation, but a 40 minute meditation might induce dissociation. That's fascinating!

[@clgr1323]

No water? Dehidration. Too much water? Drowning.

[@Firrox]

Anecdotally, when I meditate I'm usually spending the first 20 minutes clearing the mind of daily distractions, then 20 minutes "settling into" my body scan routine, and 20 minutes fighting the desire to stop meditating. If you only spend 20 minutes just clearing the mind of daily distractions, I could see how that could be pleasant and centering. However, I can also see how going deeper than that can induce dissociation and increase boredom with your surroundings.

[@HealthyGamerGG]

We LOVE interesting data like that; no surprise one of our beloved Members finds it just as fascinating too!! 💚

[@Dolritto]

Technique is also very important, not all of the reach desired state for everyone. Just started trataka and for me it feels way sharper than Ram chanting, or the listener mode when I first started each.

[@TemperanceLibraRising]

I love your profile picture.

[@ryan_deakin]

yeah, my meditation journey for the past 8 years has been mind boggling.yo-yoing between states of inner peace and boundless love, and then spiralling into an intense yearning to destroy myself and self destruct. i wouldnt exactly say its "dangerous" but its more accurate to say that the growth it evokes in you is very painful. but worth it, i think.

[@Baptized_in_Fire.]

Spiritual polarization. ;)

[@GonFreecs-fg9zm]

bro went awoke inner demons and went into qi deviation

[@pauliuskatinas2810]

me too man. I've found a friend to go to the gym with, and I've been a lot better lately :) love-the-pain

[@WilliamBlack-qq8tq]

I was gonna bring this up. The spiritual growth and insight people attain through meditation can be challenging to accept. meditating helps us better undrstand the nature of suffering & desire, and the nature of no-self, which could easily be confused for apathy or depersonalization from a clinical standpoint. Framing these things without any philosophical, spiritual, or traditional context could lead people to automatically assume that their change in perspective is negative since is opposes our notions of materialism as a source of happiness. Edit: I think Dr. K did a great job at providing spiritual context to meditation. I am suggesting rather the current scientific analysis of meditation is biased in favour of western notions of selfhood, materialism, and spirituality.

[@forward369]

@@WilliamBlack-qq8tq Totally agree - when starting to go deeper with medication and esp. when trying other styles " Naked Eye, Candle Flame, etc.. IE: Tantra ) one needs to know so many other things ( Sutra ) about the who, why, were & what is happening - as it's easy to get lost in the other two paths that the Buddha warned about ( the near infinite possibilities of creation & destruction ) outside of the middle path - also everyone should be warned that like Psychoactive drugs ( LSD, Mushrooms, MDMA, etc.. ) there is a huge risk to around 10% of the greater population of the world that it may actually trigger psychosis and so they should not be doing either because of the huge risk to themselves.

[@Frank_42]

The biggest issue is becoming open and impressionable, which can lead to both positive or negative transformation. If you aren't in a controlled environment and immediately have your peace jolted by running into disturbing people and events, these experiences can potentially have magnified negative effects. It can really mess you up.

[@nicol8090]

I know exactly what you are talking about

[@ViDeTool]

This is why its important first to understand how to properly let go. this step its skipped by many or really poorly understood, Non judgement its a skill that requires a lot of practice. and meditation can get you gains, but if you do too much and you are not fit for it, you will disturb your experience enough and a fatigued mind its dangerous.

[@althe]

A half-decent meditator can easily meditate with a jackhammer going beside them - it's all just God talking.

[@johnrickard8512]

Aah DFU mode…when updating the brain’s microcode, one must be preemptive about addressing threats because they will have a direct line to your subconscious if you are in that mode.

[@whoarewe7647]

Yep

[@petermolnar8667]

Defense Against the Dark Arts, HGGG edition

[@HealthyGamerGG]

🧙🪄

[@potatosalad68]

Damn, I'm a hp fanfiction addict

[@johannakunze3300]

Have you checked Out Harry Potter and the Methods of Rationality?

[@potatosalad68]

@@johannakunze3300 Not yet, but the premise seems promising. I'll definitely check it out, thanks

[@matt-joye]

The whole process of this sounds somewhat like meditation is just the mind’s equivalent to what physical workouts are for the physical body. Essentially: if you haven’t worked out for a while, and you suddenly try to work out really intensely for over 30 minutes, then you’re a lot more likely to get an injury than you would be if you’ve consistently been training for a while. As far as the mind is concerned, it seems as if you’re someone who all of a sudden has the epiphany that you need to start doing meditation (but have no previous practice) and you start trying to meditate for like 30+ minutes, you’re probably going to get more likely to have a mental breakdown before you actually start feeling better

[@BldgsFallStraightDwn]

Great comment and insight. It's RARE (in my experience) to find truly deep-thinking comments on KZbin. Great to see, and after reading this it makes some really good sense.

[@App.ollo_]

That's how I always thought of meditation actually, workouts for the mind, I often meditate in-between sets on my workouts

[@duro358]

This is spot on!

[@MixedDimension]

A form of meditation is also ‘being head in the clouds’ when you get thoughtful or ‘hung up’ on scratching a wall. Any form of escape from the outside world around you is meditation.

[@Maarcus01]

The depersonalisation and dissociation part makes a lot of sence. I am from germany and during a school trip we visited Auschwitz and looked at the barracks and I distinctly remember seeing a big showcase full of human hair which they preserved. Literal parts of the people that were killed there. It was such a shock to me and I went from having tears in my eyes to completely emotionless, it felt like a switch had been pulled. I remember that detached feeling and how eerie and foreign it felt for me.

[@chrismaxwell1624]

I did even realize just relaxing witnessing your thought with out judgment was form of meditation let alone open meditation. I've gotten pretty good at no judgment over the past 7 years.

[@HealthyGamerGG]

An excellent skill to celebrate!

[@kandyappleview]

O dang I just thought that was me practicing being kinder to myself (by not being to judge every thought I have). Nice to know it counts as meditation too!

[@whisped8145]

It's the essence of Soto-Zen, summarized in Taizen Deshimaru Roshii most basic instruction: "Just sit."

[@steggopotamus]

I have a thing I do where I get overwhelmed I lay down for 5-20 minutes to "reboot". I would jokingly call it white person's meditation, because the goal wasn't to stay awake necessarily, but I would watch my thoughts bounce around for a bit until my brain would just touch sleep and then immediately wake up. From what I'm hearing this might be an effective medication for me, because dr k said it takes 20 minutes to get the cortisol reduction effect and that feels like maybe what I was doing so that I wouldn't feel overwhelmed.

[@TheTuttle99]

Aw dang there can't be judgement? I'm out

[@reecediaz1700]

I went through this period in which I forced myself to focus exactly on the things that caused me emotional pain. It was really uncomfortable and I felt a ton of shame, but eventually those ideas lost their power almost completely. I do that now every time something happens to me that I don’t like and I feel free from all the thoughts that I would yank my attention away from previously.

[@richdias509]

@@reecediaz1700 could you elaborate more on this please? Sometimes I try/want to do the same but I feel like it worsen things. Like I subconsciously and intentionally ‘escape’ the emotional pain when I feel it. I want to confront it but like you said, it’s so uncomfortable to do so. How long did it take for this type of intentional exposure to yield results?

[@reecediaz1700]

Any thought I had in which my instinct was to yank my attention away from was forcefully brought into my mind in full focus as to “stare” at it. I let each memory replay until each memory lost all of its emotional charge. After 6-8 months I felt “clean”

[@ViDeTool]

This is a crucial step on meditation that a lot of people skip, learning to be non judgemental means to properly hug pain and being fine with feeling uncomfortable. meditation can really get you in the spot, and people with mental issues or certain ways of thinking are really intolerant to this feelings. thus, meditation will trigger them

[@yudistiraliem135]

If you don’t need to analyze the situation deeper, the only problem is you associate some situation with some intense emotion. Instead of risking anxiety or panic attack etc, you can just moves your eyes left and right that will separate the memory from the emotion, so you can analyze the memory from a more objective point of view later.

[@reecediaz1700]

@ I only “stared” at the thoughts that elicited those emotions. I wasn’t adding anything to them. But what are you referring to with the eye movement? Is there a place I can learn more about that stuff? That seems potentially useful for something else.

[@bananaboomerang7997]

Basically, some forms of deep meditation can dig up the problems from the deepest part of your mind you are afraid to face. If you are not ready to face them, you get clapped. Just like challenging the final boss with a wooden sword. But it is a different story when your high level friend is around to carry you through.

[@mayachetri1111]

And once you face these demons ,you come out stronger and wiser isn't so?

[@MrSub132]

The highest level friend is the Buddha(dharma). If don't know know what game you're really playing, why, or how anything works you will either get clapped or get lesser endings.

[@LordGooben]

@@mayachetri1111 Yes exactly, and let it all go.

[@ridemtb82]

Gold.

[@morinmethfirsttofall6393]

We need a complete guide to meditation, beginner to master, types of meditation, breakdowns on what each meditation is, the history of each one, combinations, etc. I'm talking encyclopedia levels of it. Every time I watch one of your videos on the issue, I have to google a billion things out of curiosity and now I have to also be weary of the side effects on top. Halp.

[@HealthyGamerGG]

Excellent news... We've got that!!! Check out our meditation guide at www.healthygamer.gg/about/guide

[@jimskeuh]

i wouldn't pay , there is free guides online

[@nicol8090]

There is a few Buddist meditaion and yoga centres with excellent teachers who give talks on meditation and guide practices, combined with initiating people into a spiritual way of life

[@thienyetan2035]

​@@HealthyGamerGG yeah yeah. Depends on how you define good. Good money for you, for me it's unaffordable, and I don't doubt the quality of your content. It's just inaccessible.

[@nomukun1138]

@@jimskeuh Why bother reading guides? Close your eyes and you're already doing everything they could tell you. But you might want to hear from someone more experienced rather than randomly trying something yourself. And you might want to hear from someone who shares their experience rather than an anonymous source.

[@chocolatecat198]

I really appreciate the intersection of psychology and spirituality discussions on this channel. I would also love to see videos that address how people with religious trauma specifically can safely navigate these issues. I'm a former member of a cult and a therapist I work with advised against doing any activities that would be reminders of the religious practices from that group, this includes, to some extent, formalized meditation techniques. Although I find a more secularized mindfulness practice be very helpful. More on this topic would be amazing to hear!

[@vincentcaudo-engelmann9057]

Always had peaceful experiences when meditating. Have felt great self-compassion (I’m usually extremely self-critical and self-demanding). I’ve released some grief one time when I gently but suddenly came into a hug with my mother who had passed years prior. The daily life effects have been of better focus, better emotional awareness, and less reactive to my children.

[@joanndurga2749]

I meditated for years, focused meditation and open awareness meditation. At one point I preferred meditation above being in the world and I found people very boring ( meditation lasted for 2-4 hours) Sometimes I entered a dream like state where I found myself totally relaxed carried away by the waves in the ocean. I totally trusted my meditation experiences. Then one time I was in India near the Ganges when I entered a dream like state were I needed to cross a lake. I went into the lake dove into the waters to investigate and saw many, many orbs ( of fire or made of something bright yellow ) drifting. I went closer to one orb to investigate and landed in hell. I woke up in the present moment crying and in intense pain. I was experiencing un processed childhood experiences. It lasted for weeks. Back in my home country I was unable to work or function. After a while I got some pause and all went back to normal till I encountered another orb, in waking life now bcs after I met the first orb I never meditated again. But now I could handle it better, I just kept on breathing being in the moment. It's still going on after 15 years. I became more light hearted and not so easily triggered and there is compassion for myself and others. I wish though that I had someone like you /your channel to turn to for support/ guidance, that would have been more easy I guess. I am happy this topic is being talked about. It am interested to hear someone with similar experiences. Love to you all.

[@beeankha]

Wow that's so fascinating! It kind of reminds me of my experience dealing with nightmares as a kid. Sometimes I'd have recurring dreams (not necessarily night after night, but still a recurring dream). The first several times would be really scary but then I'd get used to it and stop being scared and then the dreams would stop coming. Other dreams were clearly about a fear I had in real life but the more I explored within the dream, the less afraid I would be about that thing.

[@soasertsus]

This sounds a lot like the common advice given about psychedelics tbh. Depending on your mindset and setting the same thing can either cure treatment resistant mental illnesses or completely destroy a person to the point of long term psychosis. Anything that makes your mind more malleable can be just as detrimental as it is helpful depending on what you do with that malleability. Even simple things like increased body awareness can be grounding but for a person with health anxiety it can trigger a traumatic panic attack.

[@Codemonkey564]

This blew my mind, thankyou. I finally have something to go to my therapist about in regards to open awareness being a dangerous thing for me. I had no idea what open awareness meditation even was, but I was doing it whilst going on my daily walk, suddenly a whole range of hurtful, brutal, disturbing thoughts came up that my mind put a block on to save me from the pain(as you described).I was in the foster system, so it was necessary for survival, It resulted in a derealization/depersonalization episode that landed me in the ER, the worst I've ever had(I thought I was never going to get out of it). As a result I was diagnosed with CPTSD. Powerful stuff, but if the blocking is already there and you are aware of it, I would 100 percent recommend you do it with a professional if you must do it. Thanks for what you do, really, it has changed my life in so many ways.

[@idkybutwutever]

Not tryna be rude, but are you saying you shouldnt work through your traumas cause it can be unpleasant for face your demons so to speak?

[@NatalieSayin]

Start from the bottom chakra and work your way up. Look after your body before you turn to your mind. I have seen people brag about meditation and they are clearly not taking care of their body. They then can't understand why they melt down. There is a famous saying "Trying to meditate without being present in the body is like trying to build a house without foundations." At some point, it will collapse.

[@empyrean1696]

how exactly do you take care of your body in this context? Also when you say start from the bottom chakra, you mean fa meditation on your bottom chakra or something else?

[@sravyaomkar2534]

@@empyrean1696you can see pandit Ravi Shankar chakra meditation . It is relaxing

[@GruntyHerder]

​@@empyrean1696 I interpreted their comment as suggesting to start your meditation with your root chakra, muladhara "I am", and work your way up through sacral chakra, solar plexus, heart, throat, third eye, and finally your crown. Meditation that starts and ends with the head will see it disconnected from the body 😅

[@ArronSturgeonPaintings-so2xc]

There is probably a good reason why these ancient traditions had you train in an ashram with a master. Gopi Krishna is an interesting case study. He dedicated his life to helping people who spontaneously awakened on their own, like he did, and went through a lot of suffering because of it. His nervous system couldn't handle it. These folks often become incapacitated and unable to function like Ramana when he spontaneously awakened at eleven years old and had to be taken care of for a few years.

[@bananaboomerang7997]

My personal experience with meditation is like this. I started meditating long hours because there were a lot of work/family-related stuff but I couldn’t understand why I am unable to deal with stress and still stressed when I finished my duties. I wanted to do some reflection on my own thoughts so I sat down one holiday and kept addressing all the crap going on in my mind. For each thought, I asked myself “Can I do something about it? If yes, let’s do it after the meditation. If no, let’s just accept it and move on.” With that method I sorted out all my stress in the mind and eventually found what I have been subconsciously blaming myself for. There was one time I made a new friend whom I vibed with so much. We had a lot of fun together and then we reached a conversation where I was so sensitive about her opinion, I started asking her like an interrogation of why she even has that opinion. She got defensive even though she realized what I was pointing out. Her opinion was totally off and she knew it but the way I was asking many questions seemed like I was cornering her until she admitted she had wrong opinion. That’s how our friendship ended and we never talked again. When I calmed down, I knew I was too aggressive with the way I was questioning her opinion. I wanted to apologize but I couldn’t cuz she had blocked me. And then in the past few months, I found her profile again. She has unblocked me but I still didn’t initiate a conversation to apologize. That thought of has been sitting in the back of my mind like I have not been doing something I needed to do. Once I realized that, I let go of my pride and went to send an apology to her. She didn’t even read my texts but I started feeling more peaceful. I could start to feel actually relaxed when it is time to relax. No more unknown shitty feeling. The correlation to this video is that, at that point of realizing what has been bothering me, if I haven’t grown enough to let go of meaningless pride, the mediation could have added more stress to my daily life since I would know the dirt in my mind and I would be somewhat denying to clean it up. That’s why you should do deeper meditations that make you confront the things you have been avoiding, with guidance. Someone who can help you handle the confrontation to your inner-self properly.

[@tree2414]

Woww, thank you for this.

[@soundyoucantouch]

This talk is MUCH NEEDED. As someone who visited India regularly from 2010 & stayed in multiple ashramed & lived in holy cities. I have met manipulative quacks, competitive cults formation to sociopath with jargon in disguise, I have also genuinely life redefining experiences which redefine life and perspective for me. All in all in depth scientific study is badly needed and I deeply appalude Jon Kabat Zinn'w work. Thank you Dr K for speaking out about this topic from both your experience and from serious researches. Please keep this going!

[@mythirduniquehandle]

Meditation has had like hundreds if not over a thousand scientific studies done about it, it's not exactly being ignored by science.

[@NK-qw5vt]

​@@mythirduniquehandle most are on mindfulness meditation though, many other types of meditation aren't as "standardised" so it's harder to study and compare them.

[@DanToruno]

I’m grateful for you sharing your gifts in this way. You are so uniquely positioned to have deep impact with your style of storytelling and experiences. Thank you for what you do.

[@mukundaananda3091]

This is pretty common in spiritual groups and cults. There will be weird behavioral changes when you immerse oneself into these practices. Think of meditation as a multiplier to your character traits. The sad things is most brothers and sisters, even some senior monks, will just dismiss it as samskaras turning into karma. It can be cathartic but sometimes it can be dangerous as what you have said. ...and practitioners get mistreated for such behaviors. Im glad you brought this up because we need professionals such as yourself delving into this esoteric realm.

[@melodyconte]

This is very validating. When I started meditating I would cry from just a 5 minute guided meditation video, so I thought to myself clearly I have a lot of unprocessed trauma, let me do this slowly. I still don't really meditate that regularly but when I do it's a lot more grounding. I mostly journal nowadays. (And watch Dr. K videos 😉)

[@ViDeTool]

this is common with PTSD. as meditation can open up chronically "tensed" avoidant mechanism from pshycological pain. and this can get extremely overwhelming on PTSD as your body has gone used to shut it down it all or dissociate if it got overwhelming. meditation can open up this doors but if you are not ready to not judge what you feel or you do it too much, it might be too intense and overwhelming, thus triggering you

[@IdontKnow-up9lm]

@@ViDeTool Hii.. Do you think it would help get rid of the trauma tho?

[@heatherpratt1551]

Me too! When I cry like that it points to emotional pain I’ve been holding in and need to acknowledge.

[@user-mj6qr2ky9d]

Did u have therapy? I’m trying to heal without it so u have any advice

[@nellothetiger8654]

I've been suffering from C-PTSD and the dissociation/depersonalization has been a big problem for me. From my experience- Most meditation techniques other than the grounding techniques triggered the dissociation. What I believe happens is that when my mind is calm and I feel detached from it, my mind gravitates towards a state it's familiar with that feels similar which is the dissociated state. It goes like 'Oh This feels new. I feel more comfortable when dissociating and it feels similar anyways, so let's just dissociate.' The worst experience was when I kinda tried Shunya meditation. I didn't mean to try it, but I learnt about it and found it interesting that I thought about the idea deeply, and that was enough to make me to dissociate frequently for few days. x_x It was very unpleasant experience. However, like Dr.K explained in the video, none of the negative affects lasted more than few days. And you never know what would work for you and what wouldn't until you try it by yourself. So I recommend you all to try any meditation technique you find interesting by yourself before you judge it and decide to never try it!

[@AnyaAnnika67]

I think trying it under the direction of someone who is experienced in meditative practices is a better idea tbh

[@azhaz578]

What grounding techniques would you recommend? Fellow cPTSD dude here

[@gpparis2023]

I've had some dark stuff come up. It's made me afraid to try again.

[@fya.7382]

@@azhaz578 There is something called TRE, Tension and Trauma Releasing Exercises. To put it very shortly, it's about triggering a shaking response in your muscles that will retrain your nervours system to relax them. I've been implementing it for about half a year now, and it has greatly improved my symptoms. Practically no more flashbacks, or all too terrible mood swings. Mind you, this is after years of therapy, and other things I've tried, such as physio therapy, cryotherapy, simple cold showers, mediation, etc. I'm not a medical professional, and this is just my personal experience. To me, processing my trauma was a lot about learning to trust myself again, so finding what worked for me naturally was part of that process. It's a lot about getting back into your body and your boundaries, but there is, unfortunately, no quick fix. A lot of things that are good for you will feel bad at the beginning, and a lot of things bad for you, will feel good. Take care and all the best

[@Fairygoblet]

@@gpparis2023 when I first started meditation I could not sit for 5 minutes without starting to cry. The negative things you are ignoring will be the first to enter your space. Learning to sit with negative emotions and surpass them is very rewarding, although it's probably best done with the guidance of a professional.

[@Jcarp1989]

Can you make a video about your scientific perspective on kundalini, potential kundalini awakenings, and how they are different from psychosis, delusional disorder, or mood disorders. Thank you!

[@azhaz578]

Yes this please.

[@oksanagadomska]

@@Jcarp1989 Yes 🙌🏻

[@danalucchin7090]

@@Jcarp1989 amazing suggestion! We need this 👏🏻

[@idkybutwutever]

Im also curious about this

[@heatherpratt1551]

This is so helpful ! I am a person in recovery, a clinician in an outpatient treatment center that focuses on DBT, as well as very spiritually curious and drawn to the power of meditation practices. I needed to know this !!!

[@PudgyMcWudgy]

HAH, I’m one of the ones that experienced acute psychosis. Wound up stuck for a week in a psych ward. At the time I was unsure whether I had developed a (lame) super power or if I had broken my brain because I was suddenly getting high as a kite and experiencing euphoria whenever I focused on observing myself from the top of my head. Idk why I decided to do it that way but I did. On the trip to the hospital I had decided I was going to donate my brain to science and I was like “omg I gotta tell Dr K about this!” Anyway it wasn’t just the meditation. Turns out I have Panic Disorder/GAD/OCD and my compulsions were related to therapy, CBT and meditation. 😅

[@VioletBlackKey]

I'm learning more from you than all the years of my MA in psychology, and it's all very interesting and important. I think it's useful for everyone to know more about meditation and how to practice it correctly.

[@pluckpack]

one of the ways I really misunderstood meditation when I started out, is that I would try to force myself into my body sensations so I could feel them more closely and let them free. The problem is that the forcefulness created a lot of tension in my body and just had the opposite effect. Whenever you meditate you really need to make sure to relax

[@Just_Random_Things.]

I do like I just don't care about anything and focus on my breath or the clock tick tick sound for 10 minutes and that's it after I bath in morning!

[@xKillYourTVx]

Check Establish Yourself in a Deeper State of Inner Peace that is Beyond the Mind. This vid has All the answer i ever had about how to meditate

[@quix66hiya22]

I did a 10-day Vipassana meditation course. One of the worst things I’ve ever done. Didn’t help that I persisted in meditation thinking I was going through some Dark Night. Led me to experience frightening somatic sensations for years even after I stopped meditating. Feelings of energies rushing through my body which felt very pleasant at first so I kept meditating until I started soon having the sensations of floating throughout the day, feelings that spirits were attacking me and that I could hear them running, feelings of wind rushing through my body from passing people or cars, seeing colors more intensely, etc. I live in Japan and came to know that many serious meditation teachers would not conduct courses such as Goenka’s and don’t take on temporary students or ones they haven’t observed for prolonged periods before teaching them the basic things. I think the intensives and the casual practice schools have the potential to do more harm than good. Please be careful and do your research on the lived experiences of people who’ve had negative life changing experiences from meditation before you decide to pursue a practice.

[@kwest84]

This confirms that my instinct to stop meditation at a certain point when I was going really deep may have been correct. I had this strong sensation that if I had kept going, I would end up psychotic. Reading this and hearing Dr.K speak I think my instinct saved me from a lot of trouble.

[@AleksanderAaronHansen]

Im so sorry to hear this was your experience, I went on one of these as well a few months ago, though my experience was much more positive in the end, il admit I did stop meditations earlier and opened my eyes etc, but I def did the practice, and the somatic aspect was just from my understanding meant to make you understand that experiences are Impermanent they arise and they disappear, which personally I took to heart. But yea def dont force your self, sounds like an uncomfortable experience, I wish you good luck going forward

[@AntonBrazhnyk]

Are you sure it's meditation to blame here? Maybe it's not really a good method to learn it by going for 10-day intensive variant without proper introduction? You probably were told "it's fine" by the stuff, but hey, there's always people who can risk your health to make some money, right? Not trying to blame you for it in any way, just highlighting some details. Meditation is powerful tool and any powerful tool has to be used carefully and skillfully.

[@_swordfern]

I continue with Vipassana meditation.

[@colbyboucher6391]

Pretty much a self-inflicted sensory deprivation chamber.

[@nowonmetube]

Hearing "Focused Attention being one of the most dangerous meditations" while having ADHD is wild!

[@jst0aguy]

2:18 Diddy be like 😭🙏🏻

[@GomuGear4]

Nice try Diddy

[@AM2K2]

Destiny be like 💀

[@Sparkl1ngM1lk]

no way 💀😭

[@Mob-q1o]

@@GomuGear4ima touch u

[@chonkychonk]

You just told me how to maximize my subjectivity. I’ll definitely start clinching down there at church. Thank you.

[@martini1179]

Dr. K, thank you for this video. I've been meaning to get into meditation but I've always wondered if every single kind of meditation is a good for every type of psyche and if some types of individuals shouldn't partake in certain meditative practices. You've really shed a lot of light on this and I thank you for answering a question that's been on my mind for maybe half a year.

[@Rhinoch8]

Advanced techniques can induce schizoid paranoia and anxiety attacks. But this is when you're tunnel blasting through karma, then you're supposed to go back to the body and integrate the pain, the visions and the hellish experience. This is why you go to a therapist to unpack things. You want to prevent the person jumping out the window.

[@Jourifouler]

I've got a mate who is so far down the meditation hole he hasn't gotten any happier but is convinced more meditation will one day make him happy

[@stickmandaninacan]

I clicked on this video cause I just got that feeling this title is talking about the way I dissociate isn't it

[@nnarcus]

I love Dr K's way of communicating ideas and psychological concepts through gaming metaphors - thoughts being mobs with different stats and strengths. Yourself as a DnD character with stats of health, regeneration, armor. Helps me to think and understand about why some stresses can be like Damage over Time, and some thoughts or traumas can be a direct confrontation with a challenging encounter. Really, we're all just NPCs in a weird sandbox game

[@TheLaughingDove]

I think of meditation as being very similar to other forms of self disciplines, especially exercise or martial arts. It's trying to find the buttons and levers of your internality, and work them in specific ways. Belief systems are, even if nothing "spiritual" about them is true, a framework to mold oneself on and impart communicable ideas on ritual practices (ritual seems to be incredibly important to function in humans, and seems to pop up enough in other intelligent species that I'm inclined to think it's as much an undervalued cognitive need as play is). Like anything that actually has an effect, dosage matters!

[@Herosoyyo2]

I would argue if a belief system is, in fact, that framework, then it contains plenty of spiritual truth. It's just different from scientific truth. Just like spiritual truth tells you nothing about galaxies, atomic weights, or fossil records, scientific truth ultimately has nothing to say on love, fear, or meaning - definitely not on the experiential level where your own existence intersects with those things. Alcoholics who give prayer an honest shot find more success in quitting; just to pick one example containing the problem of a lifetime for a lot of real people. I know you brought this up already, I'm just clarifying the stakes. So which truth do we want, anyway? Is it worth saying that we don't know anything spiritual to be true? I tend to favor my impulse to push back on language like that.

[@EkayYT]

Thanks for your help Dr. K :)

[@SkinnyBoiLive]

The biggest danger is NEVER meditating.

[@vincentcaudo-engelmann9057]

This is my experience

[@rickymort135]

That's me. I'm too manly to meditate...

[@bobaboyuwu]

@@rickymort135meditating helps you get disciplined and achieve enlightenment , hence being more manly

[@Fe-gb3bn]

Please make a comprehensive guide on types of meditations and their specific benefits, ie which type of person should do which type of meditation.

[@EARTOEARTOEARTOEAR]

It's out there! Healthygamergg meditation module. Covers exactly as u describe :)

[@13thravenpurple94]

Such a powerful video! Thank you for all the effort you put in! 💪

[@healthavenues]

I practice and offer training in movement meditation. I teach juggling as a therapeutic exercise. There are many benefits including increased grey matter in the brain, endorphin release of course, dopamine release, new neural connections between both sides of the brain. I have a podcast called "toss, catch, heal". There is some scientific research that backs up this claim. The beauty is, it can be practiced in 5 minute intervals if someone has an anxiety or panic attack keep their bean bags or scarves nearby and when they feel attack coming on, pick up props juggle for 5 minutes. It will bring you back to present moment, less ruminating. Not everyone can sir still for long periods of time. This let's the body move while the mind is occupied on the juggling pattern since the brain can't focus on 2 different tasks at same exact time. Multitasking is really serial tasking at rapid pace, especially with juggling. It may not be for everyone, but it has the potential to profoundly change a lot of lives! Note: this is only 1 tool . If you have serious mental health issues, you still should access professional help. I'm not trying to offer some cure all. But I do believe it will be very effective for a lot of people.

[@christinesalter5845]

Thank you for sharing your understanding of meditation and your research on the risks and adverse effects. I appreciate your perspective on the effects on the mind especially focused attention. I would love to see you make another video to understand better. I am a Physiotherapist and Yoga Practioner so I can appreciate both the physiological and the spiritual and energetic forces of meditation.

[@ElloaASMR]

That video was so interesting. I hope there is a part 2!

[@ryanreyes3085]

This was so great to listen to. Thank you so much for the information and wisdom!

[@meganmegan6347]

Thank you so much for creating this video 🙏 I'm going through a lot of the things you've mentioned and it's helped me understand. So grateful to you

[@SilverFlame819]

I love Dr. K's brain, and the way he explains things and expresses thoughts. Every video is a treasure trove of goodness. As someone who is anal retentive and would love a breakdown of every type of meditation, these videos are awesome. So many other websites give paragraphs of rambling without exact details. Keep up the great work, Dr. K!

[@Alfred_the_doodler]

This was excellent. Great breakdown of all these different types of meditations that exist

[@gytfunke]

This is your most interesting video yet. Thank you.

[@thomasmarek7310]

There can definitely be negatives to meditation, especially the longer amount of time you spend with yourself and just yourself. Doing the long-form stuff is definitely not for everyone. Sometimes when I get caught up in projects or things I'm working on/focusing on too much, I will take anywhere from an hour to up to a full waking day to reset my balance. I will sit in a quiet room and basically do nothing except accept everything, internalize joy, and be open to those sudden bursts of inspiration and realization when you let the mind wander with an open mind. Doing stuff like that tends to prevent me from burning out and makes me less obsessed about things that are starting to stress me out, but nowadays I only really need to do that for an hour maximum to reap the full benefits. To me that kind of meditation is not about focusing on one thing but focusing on nothing, and becoming aware of the present moment in the process. For me long-form meditation gives me a hard reset when my mind is getting too busy and caught up in impermanent things. I don't do it every day though lol, and I probably wouldn't for some of the reasons you mentioned.

[@dpreetam]

I had a mental breakdown after meditation and some realization of some not so awesome things. It'll probably be better for me in the long run to deal with the trauma.

[@FS-gl9cg]

@@dpreetam deal with it, how ?

[@quix66hiya22]

Happened to me too.

[@fixyourfoci]

Reading "Waking the Tiger: Healing Trauma .." by P. A. Levine might be a place to start

[@misslayer999]

I've actually read your published papers on meditation and tai chi! super interesting!

[@nicol8090]

Can you link them here please for all of us to see? I didnt know they exist!

[@misslayer999]

@nicol8090 no I can't bc KZbin erases all external links immediately. Are you familiar with research papers? I don't remember exactly what journals they were originally published in but I'm sure they're on PubMed, Researchgate or Scholar if you search for A. Kinojia. He only has like four published papers, which is pretty normal I think since he's an MD (research is usually an entirely separate field). You might not find all of them on one site tho

[@misslayer999]

@@nicol8090 no I can't. KZbin automatically deletes all outside links. I tried to comment with names of databases but it's not even letting me include those... Are you familiar with scientific research papers? If so, just check some of the main databases and search by his full name. He only has like four published papers which is pretty normal for an MD I think(research is an entirely separate field)

[@misslayer999]

@@nicol8090 they're flagging DOI numbers too. Wtf?? Apparently they don't want people to be able to see legit scientific evidence. Nice

[@misslayer999]

@@nicol8090 they won't even let me post a d o i either. I guess they're trying to sensor legit scientific research. Sounds about right

[@fuzzyecheveriaharmsii]

Meditation gets you in a state where you open for Suggestions. Isn't it the same as hypnosis or some kind of relaxed guided meditation or fantasy mind travel? And people can abuse it

[@abdelilhmanflores]

That is why it's important to have a good teacher or a neutral guide. I personally use KZbin teachers who speak and act positively

[@T-2025.s]

@@abdelilhmanfloresthat’s the problem, KZbin teachers. Nowadays anyone can call themselves any title online. The false perception of who they really are and live. I would never follow someone on. KZbin unless you know with proof that have years of training!!!!

[@am01264]

It depends. For context I trained as a hypnotherapist, hypnosis in one sense is accessing the dreaming brain while awake. So guided imagery - that's a form of hypnosis. Shocking people into surprise - also yes (using the orientation response) ...and physically calming the body into deep relaxation with just breathing? paradoxically yes. These all technically would make you more suggestible. But let's be honest, you sit next to someone you have a crush on, and you're also more suggestible. You're mulling over a purchase, more suggestible again Suggestible simply means open to change and learning... and if you're also the person directing the experience, there's a lot you can get out of it. ...and sometimes we need to get out of our way, so guided experiences have there place too. But as with all things in life, it's how the tool is used that determines the results.

[@abdelilhmanflores]

@@T-2025.sI don’t wanna put words in your mouth, but you shouldn’t disregard all teachers. In my personal experience, I have a playlist full of various videos from various channels. But I tend to mainly have Dr. K vids

[@thehealthionaire]

I gave up all of my bad habits overnight, a lot thanks to you Dr. K. I'm documenting it on my channel and in hopes of healing my shattered brain. Thanks for your inspo, cheers!

[@UnityCZ]

There is a neurologist where I live. He had an interview online and he said that the brain needs to “be bored” and that, according to his words, is the true time where the brain physiologically meditates. What is needed to be taken from it is not to feel bored to death, but not to have constant flow of information coming in neither. Mental relaxation is very important, just to sit or lay down and do nothing physically and mentally is very important. It does not need to be a long session, 5 - 10 minutes a day, just watch the sky and clouds. I was doing this since childhood, i was always just lying on tne ground looking into the ceiling or just closing my eyes for hour or two. The neurologist also said that this creates new neurological pathways in the brain, connecting distant mind clusters so the person doing this is or at least seems more clever and sophisticated in his/hers thinking patterns. So not all is bad. Of course there may be too much of a good thing. Yesterday I was hanging out with my online group friends and my dad was here in my room and the i said “ok i shall do notning for like five minutes”. And what felt like five minutes was more than an hour, since my dad knocked on my door “are you going or what?” Since my parents gave me a ride. No BS, i was in shock

[@alisonsloan2329]

Great information! Thanks for disseminating that article 😊

[@pedromeleiro5613]

Alot of meditation masters do emphasize how important it is to go slowly, i bet alot of people who felt this symptoms on the 21-40m and 40>m meditation group probably decided to jump very quickly to this volume instead of gradually building up, dont try to add 5mins or even 1 min every day add maybe 1min every month, thats how slow you should go.

[@second0banana]

YES. Going to send this to a friend with zero experience with meditation who wants to start an open awareness style meditation program with the mostly traumatized teenagers she works with.

[@rogerdodger589]

I've only ever meditated once. I watched one of your ADHD videos and how sound meditation is usually easier for people with ADHD. I set a timer for 1 hour and switched from sound to sound. After the hour was up, I was amazed at how good I felt. My mind was clear, and I felt light and happy. I haven't meditated since because I have a fear that something bad might happen, but I think that if I dont meditate for a long period of time I should be fine. Do you all think I should try again?

[@kayakMike1000]

No. I don't think you should try again. Do, or do not. There is no try. Also, take your meds.

[@AnyaAnnika67]

@@kayakMike1000why? I think an hour sounds slightly excessive to begin with but to abstain altogether? They may already be taking their meds.

[@Dolritto]

I respect that You did full hour as Your first try, in ~4-5 months of knowing this technique I did 1h only couple times. 😅 I started with old video they did on this technique and as first try for chat Dr K guided them through only couple minutes long session and I just rewatched video first 3-4 weeks, later did double. If You don't feel sure You may consider going for small session, like 5-10 minutes and quit if something would feel off after that.

[@rogerdodger589]

@kayakMike1000 I haven't been diagnosed ADHD I just tried the method easier for people with ADHD because I have those traits. Also, I didn't meditate the full hour. I would say it took me 20 minutes to half an hour to clear my mind and actually start meditating.

[@samuelstarfelt4049]

I started doing focused attention meditation on my own, without really knowing what I was doing, about 2,5 years ago. It is simultaneously the best and worst thing I have been doing. It has allowed me to become more whole, more mature, more emotionally stable. It has also led me to the emergency psych-ward of a hospital. The most interesting is that I feel that my mind knows exactly what to do as soon as I ask it to and continuously points me to the next step.

[@mythirduniquehandle]

Seem like there's some people who when they get deep into meditating their mind becomes far too sensitive and kind of overwhelms/breaks their brain. Perhaps those who have a particularly vulnerable or unstable state of mind or someone who's essentially very broken up perhaps from bad childhood experiences should tread carefully. I.E: If you suffer from schizophrenia, bipolar, episodes of psychosis, or highly sensitive emotionally to stimuli then I'd be careful of *anything* that can alter consciousness no matter what. Personally, when I meditate long and successfully, I get up feeling absolutely incredible. Very sharp, on point, mind feels clear as a crystal, and I am emotionally fortified and almost nothing can bring down my happy spirit. It's truly a transformation. But before I may have been grouchy, a little isolated/not feeling social, and a little sluggish. But I wasn't experiencing any severe mental conditions or symptoms. Since I could feel every inch of my body, like a magnifying glass to my whole state of being, I think that if it was an extremely negative feeling when coming out, it would be magnified. So yeah, it's fine to be somewhat mentally struggling like being tired, lonely, burned out, anxious, depressed... But if you're having trouble like, being 100% perceptive of your reality and your environment, and part of you is struggling to be grounded in reality when you're in a normal waking state, I could see meditation perhaps deepening that issue.

[@1234seafighter]

One thing you said about greeting someone through my life and observation of the animal kingdom I’ve noticed that if you see someone as a “friend”and you greet them without words just with a nod your chin will go up, but if you see them as a “enemy”, then your chin will go down because in nature predators always go for the throat. Anyone else observe this?

[@hammersaw3135]

I practiced open awareness for several years straight, when I added focused attention to my practice I became euphoric, it was powerful but dangerous because of the ego boosting effect can really get to your head, even if you think you are immune from it.

[@vishaliapillay9134]

I didn’t want this podcast to end! Thank you for this in-depth explanation of meditation, Dr K…. I recently did Inner Engineering through Sadhguru, and everything you covered is in perfect alignment with the meditation and yoga I learnt through this course. The daily meditation is 20 minutes and it’s focused attention. It’s been an incredible journey so far and I’ve released a ton of emotional baggage, as an ex C- PTSD and depression sufferer. What’s fascinating, is how old memories start to pop up out of nowhere…. Memories that I’d completely forgotten about. I think that the inner engineering process is designed in such a way, that the kundalini rises very slowly, releasing memories of trauma at a pace that is manageable to handle and heal from.

[@sravyaomkar2534]

May I know what meditation you did? What kind if foucused meditation 😊

[@SeamusHarper1234]

I've recently started doing "reverse meditations", which is basically open awareness on steroids. You use and focus on pain, to achive greater insights on what pain is, your relation to it and who and what "we" are. In the context of the video, it seems this is one of the more dangerous practice.

[@dulcetsementzis7977]

Schopenhauer fan?

[@ezycuberz4563]

"The Most Dangerous Form of Meditation" Sounds like a challenge to me..

[@leonoragoston1345]

Two requests : detailed story of the kundalini awakening and your opinion on someone who is interested in doing the process

[@gpparis2023]

I love you Dr K. I've learned so much watching your content. Thank you!

[@lore6488]

27:30 “there no dog there” love the monkey brain analogies Dr.K implements in the videos

[@donkler5476]

2:35 “It turned out totally fine” 😉 We know what happened in that cabin

[@the_lily_rose]

Exactly what I was thinking.

[@thparelli3]

This is an incredible video. Have played with meditation for years. In the past, I would notice it bringing up negative thoughts from the passed that I had previously forgot about it. This information will help greatly going forward….

[@stein0niets]

Very interesting stuff! I think it's important to keep evaluating if you like what meditation is doing (also to your relationships). I meditate much more I do divide into 3-5 sessions a day. But I'm also listening carefully. Its helping grately in overcoming the depressive sides of my Bipolar 1 (or Schizoaffective) Disorder (and traumas). Mania and Psychosis are on the flipside so I never ever meditate when things feel off. I do a combination of bodyscan and manifesting (and grounding exercises if they feel right). Thusfar it's been great my thoughts are clear and healthy and my relationships more healthy (which are great indicators and motivators). Thanks for your videos! They are great, the one on psyc meds helped a lot in understanding the workings of the meds I was on.

[@annedeoedipus7849]

Recently, I have had extended sessions of meditation together with LSD. After those sessions, in the past month, I have completely stopped gaming and alcohol. This is the most time away from those addictions in 30 years. I am using the term 'addiction' accurately; I have been hospitalized for alcohol as an alcohol misuse disorder person. I am also labelled as having social and generalised anxiety disorders. It is not as fun as it sounds but there were moments of joy (but those mostly involved taking drugs and playing computer games). In the last month, I have been fine without drugs or gaming. It is as if my thinking about the addictions has not disappeared but has shifted and diminished to a point where it seems I am not that concerned about them. I cannot describe how good it feels to not engage with those things. And, I feel like the LSD meditations were causative. It is a strong, fixed point in time--please don't come at me physics people for writing that!--that I understand as the point where I was no longer completely subject to my addictions. Anyway, that's my meditation story.

[@DanielFlores-th7de]

The side effects of prolonged meditation Dr.k mentioned, lack of interest in others, your surroundings, lack of motivation, is usually how I feel. I notice I do spend a lot of time in my own headspace. I did it a lot in high school too. Idk if that is what is causing that in me or if it’s an ADHD response or what but I don’t like experiencing those phenomena. I used to feel extremely attached to my surroundings and other people and in recent years, it’s been nearly nonexistent. I’m barely starting to come out of it lately with spending time with friends, taking walks and skateboarding around town and it helps me put everything in perspective and focus on the moment.

[@moonman5543]

Very good down to earth analysis. The meditation community needs to know the science aspects of all this

[@jrkirby93]

Got it. Take psychedelics and practice focused attention meditation. Thanks for the guidance, Dr. K!

[@thanos2527]

I did practice meditation for ~10-20 hours a day. After few months I developed severe psychosis, which ended with suicide attempts, hospitalizations and taking antipsychotic medications for 2 years, before I started functioning normally again. This is not safe at all, if you are not cautious

[@peneljsmith]

I think that I've been meditating since childhood. I'd get in trouble at school for "daydreaming", but I was just looking at trees outside, and kind of floating. I've never been able to meditate for hours, though. I use Tibetan prayer beads, then a singing bowl, and then meditate for several minutes. I have stopped trying to time myself. When I feel that I need to stop, I stop. I tend to journal about things that are painful, then throw out what I wrote.

[@natik-f8x]

Shirlest’s Hidden Pineal Gland Activation changed my life. I didn't expect to see such quick results. My ability to tap into my creativity has skyrocketed, and I feel more connected to my intuition.

[@sidneypowelstock6812]

bro got bots to like his youtube comment 😂

[@lifidilin]

Bro is a bot 😭

[@samanthar7615]

‘Some meditations are more esoteric, hence more powerful, therefore more Dangerous” LOVE the work you’re doing! ;)

[@noobyoshi]

23:30+ this is such an important warning. Some of us might need supervision. With an anxiety disorder and subsequently diagnosed with CPTSD, even having done DBT and EMDR and even without my past consciously coming up, I had such a horrifying experience that for the next 10 years, I couldn’t meditate alone. Thanks Dr. K

[@attheranch873]

Wow, this was incredibly fascinating! Thank you😀🌷 Subscribed

[@auspicious6703]

Trigger warning: I haven’t seen the video yet but I had a rather scary experience recently after meditating and realising I would be ok with dying as in it didn’t scare me anymore. I then had the idea that maybe I was shown this awareness because I was somehow ‘meant’ to die now and the idea of living suddenly felt intolerable because I was so in tune with the feeling of freedom of death. I was sure I was meant to die and that’s the only way I’d feel happy and kept feeling like I should get myself into an accident while driving, like I was sure sure that’s what I was meant to do. Obviously I didn’t. I guess I chickened out. But the whole experience was traumatic and I’m not sure what it meant and probably won’t try to figure it out for a while. Like it started off feeling good and then wasn’t and then I felt like a failure for not following through. Anyway, it’s scary and I’m afraid of meditating now. Also scared to watch this video

[@vincentcaudo-engelmann9057]

I’m sorry man. That sounds really rough and scary. I hope you are feeling better now. Please pray affirming things for yourself and others.

[@KaiyoSay]

Mmm.. this is my own personal belief, but sometimes in meditation we bring up past life issues. Not to necessarily repeat them but to expel them through feeling and expression. Just like how we hold onto negative experiences in our life, we can hold onto negative experiences from other lives. Potentially all of it can be healed, IF you know how to do it safely. It's also possible that you were just being shown death doesn't have to be scary, but the ego mind distorted it into something unnecessary. The ego can misinterpret a lot of the meditation journey. And that is why in some practices people do this in groups to help guide and support each other.

[@AlexDavidkova]

My brother is meditating from over 10 years now every day. I had few instances where he behaved weird. Once I tried to wake him up, as he looked like he had fallen asleep and when he opened his eyes he looked terrified. I've never seen my brother so scared in my life! For a several seconds he didn't knew who I am and after he remembered himself he told me that was the scariest part. Few more times he had been falling asleep, sometimes fully on the earliest occasions, right there as he's standing, and behaves on an auto pilot. This always happens if he's not on his chair where he meditates in the time that happens, as he always did that at 11PM

[@Repienk]

Woah. Is it overall positive for him?

[@electricmiragemedia]

It sounds like your brother may be using some special meditation enhancers.

[@nicol8090]

Your brother really needs ro find an experienced and trustworthy meditation teacher. At least, in Tibetan Buddhism that I am aware of, there is very respectable meditation centres all around the world!

[@fairpastelfairy1681]

I triggered severe trauma flashbacks and dissociation with meditation, because I did not stop when things got wonky, but also because of trauma related lack of body awareness and a habit of not reacting to my own pain. It got to the point of a nervous breakdown. Now after some treamtent and all I am much better than I ever was, but I am also more aware of meditation is. This was a very helpful view on which technique can have which side effects. I still do not dare to do open awareness or focus mediation, but the grounding techniques help a ton. After such an event it can be hard to regain trust in the practice.Thank you so much for this video, it gives me more trust in what I do.

[@zwingler]

Had a big argument at work which caused a massive headache which i carried home. Couldn't shake it off. I rarely meditate since i don't require it that often but this day i needed it. Literally straight seating position, 90° knees and arms, was in a Trance for 30 minutes and woke up completely refreshed. Meditation is seriously strong if you let it.

[@lucajo16]

So i was at work one night and I sat in a lotus pose and passed out....next thing I know I'm in the middle of literally nowhere and I float to this platform where this...guy was at. Guy looked like an art mannequin. We talked for a few minutes but he told me my mom was gonna die in a few days and there wasn't anything I could do. He lit me on fire and I had a bunch of images and memories thrown into my head. I woke up at 3am (( i passed out at midnight)) and called her and a bunch of other people. Well 3 days later she died in an Uber on the way to the store. Found out I had done something called a kundalini awakening which is weird because I wasn't into any of this sort of thing. But sense then my ability to focus and read people is clearer due to it just believe. I used to be very gullible. I wasn't able to understand why. I don't say it wasn't worth it but it is life changing

[@DrewJordan.]

Wow this is so odd. Ty for sharing. I wonder what caused this

[@bobhouse9331]

Awesome testimony. I'm sorry for your loss.

[@greapymilk2619]

Hey dude, hope you are ok and well, i am a begginer in meditation and i am astounished from your story. Hope you are well from a very young dude.

[@lucajo16]

@DrewJordan. i mentioned it. It was a kundalini awakening....see when my mom died in this Uber we drove to the hospital...I gave him the option and i was trained CPR as a security guard. They got her on a stretcher and i came to check on her for 3 days. By the 3rd day I talked to the doctor and I asked him about her odds of survival and coming back...he said because she was out for awhile (( 5+ minutes)) the odds of her coming back were near none. So I was asked if I wanted to be in the room when they pulled her... I said no...I couldn't see her like that anymore. And she didn't come back. For 6 months I had dreams of us talking and she knew she was gone in those dreams. To me was weird and I was aging in the dreams from kid to an adult. When I was an adult was the last dreams and she said it was her time to go. I was ok the whole way through it like the thing told me oddly enough. My mom always talked about something she did called the touch. Where she would touch someone and see stuff...I wonder if this was it or something else all the time. Ive seen other stuff but most of it is always depressing. I wonder why it's like this and not something else now.

[@lucajo16]

@greapymilk2619 im ok...i was in my mid 20s when this happened. I am now 32

[@silverapples4197]

your videos are so helpful, thank you

[@vitoriaabreu19]

Always relevant. Thank you Dr. K

[@frankiefrog3455]

One of those things about meditation is that it's very specific. Not just the type of meditation you're doing, but what actually comes up in that meditation. Thoughts flow in and throughout the locality of your mind like a river and frankly, we aren't just bystanders as one may think. Well, in the sense of being able to change the river, it just is because it exists but that doesn't mean we can't build a boat or a paddle to float the river to certain destinations we have in mind. I think this individuality of meditation experiences are what help define the nuances of what was previously termed 'spiritual' rather than how scientific individuations need to generalize and categorize side-effects for repeatability purposes. In my opinion, this is why all of the statistics in the paper shown in this video didn't seem dangerous at all and were generally spread out broadly among all of the options. In my opinion, the so-called 'danger' of focused attention meditation can be explained like sharpening a blade. If you sharpen a blade, and perhaps it's extremely sharp but you're knife skills are just alright, then in the case scenario that you choose to test your skills and make a new dish where you're cutting tons of vegetables, I think the margin for consequences with your errors are only exponential. You could make another analogy in music. For example, in jazz piano when you're honing your improvisation skills till they're extremely sharp, yet you've not had the same amount of practice with your harmonies, the actual melody lines you've been improvising are in fact dull and only contain excellent representations of simply basic colors and shapes. One can see how this experience may be disappointing or disheartening when you've just been opened up to the reality of your situation in this light. Anyway, hope my ramblings contributes in some way : ()

I was introduced to a chanting mediation during a period of my life when I was struggling with a number of mental issues. I found it more rewarding (in a dopaminergic sense) than the drug use that was a part of the issues I was having a the time. Very interesting story of the people who introduced me to the practice and the organization they were a kicked out of. I don't know if you would be comfortable with name dropping an NGO of it's size in a negative way but doing a case study or interview of former SGI members would be very cool. its an Interesting intersection of meditation and cultlike groups in the relative mainstream. I can't say that it was all bad, I fully appreciated the practice of chanting "nam myoho renge kyo" and reciting passages of lotus sutra. I think it might have lead to my mental health worsening, That being said I also feel like it saved my life at the same time. I no longer practice but I still can appreciate the lessons I learned from that time of my life.

[@OrionBlaze]

I had a "friend" who was really into meditation, Easter philosophies, mushrooms, etc and was the biggest malignant narcissist I ever met. His girlfriend was really depressed and he basically used to tell her that it was because she was not getting the message from the mushroom trips so he basically locked her up in a room and used to make her take heavy doses of mushrooms everyday and a lot more weird stuff all "consensual", but through manipulation. My question is, why are a lot of people into these practices such psychopaths?

[@nicol8090]

Theres psychopaths everywhere, its just we spot them easier because we dont expect to meet them in a meditation environment. They stand out.

[@rotinthesun]

phycos like control, control over their own minds, over the minds of others. probably that

[@kangaroocaliphate1577]

Hippies are bad people pretending to be good. Punks are good people pretending to be bad.

[@ketangle]

Loads of lost vulnerable people who are into this stuff, trying to find their way. Sometimes bad apples spot this and take advantage of it. Think about the self help genre in general, loads of weird, scam-my influencers trying to profit from people's desperation

[@misterwachulochulo5262]

malignant narcissists are usually extremely emotionally vulnerable people, in fact narcissism comes from being so emotionally weak that you need to have an idealized sense of self in which you can do no wrong to feel any good about yourself (and you need constant reassurance that you're as great and godly as you want to convince yourself you are) it's ultimately no wonder that narcissists are drawn to the exact same things as other vulnerable people, its just that narcissists are much more likely to end up doing abusive things than non-narcissists (and even then, lots of abusers have no personality disorders and there's also lots of clinical narcissists that are actually not abusers... I do see your point though)

[@MrSub132]

Right view. Right concentration. These are essential for Right meditation.

[@mayaholligan5487]

Man every time I click on one of your videos I'm so impressed they're so informative and interesting!!

[@SublimeNotions]

So a focused attention meditation for 12 hours a day for 1 year it is then. I'll be walking on the sun in no time!

[@twindenis]

Intention plays a role too and may be an interesting piece of data to study or add as it can lead to some interesting correlates. "What is your intention for this meditation practice" and "What did you expect out of it", the former should be asked prior to the practice and the latter after, or a carefully chosen order like that for the forms. This can play a role too and it is important to note. If one intends to practice for some random experience and another for healing, or finding something about their self etc, it can be important to note. Sometimes the subconscious may bring up things that are burried in order to help us get where we really want or more importantly where we need to be. Choosing how you will conduct the study can lead to different conclusions, it is important to note this fine detail :) Blessings

[@zoranbrasnjo7488]

​@@twindenis first smart and important comment here.General purpose and intention of meditation should be getting into better mood/ rising vibration/experiencing presence ...what ever you want to call it and then allow that energy to set the tone for the day. Getting deeper into meditation lower beta,alpha ...brainwaves opens your mind for programming/ suggestions and practicing that in combination of focusing on feeling of gratitude,appreciation...or any other positive thoughts,fellings,energies will create more of that and will amplify positive energy. Setting intention,getting into lower brainwaves in combination with elevated emotions is strong transformational tool...

[@moonsod1113]

I think that is a load of piffle. Meditation should be free and easy, not contrived. I am fed up of hearing about intention. Just like the law of attraction and manifestation is utter bullshit. Why are people looking for magic in an age of science?

[@SusannahPerri]

I have difficulty getting to sleep, so I listen to meditation videos on KZbin. The ones in which they stop talking after about 20-30 minutes and then only have music or sounds like rain or white noise are fine. But the ones in which they continue talking for several hours give me nightmares.