Heartbreak Hotel Ft. DeVon Franklin

On this session of Counsel Culture, Nick converses with producer, author, and motivational speaker, DeVon Franklin. The two commune over shared feelings of loss and heartbreak while being in high-profile relationships. They also use the opportunity to discuss transformation and rebuilding from the lows heartbreak can cause.
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[@Msladyrae92]

“ my commitment to her well-being is still intact” that is truly powerful.

[@lexidean6050]

O yea Devon! That statement alone is class and thoughtfulness. I could fast fwd the interview from there and still take away something positive. My Q to both- Was there a moment when it was someone telling you in silent words, I cannot be the woman of your dreams because I am not willing to sacrifice my dreams just to have you?

[@brendagreenidge7717]

Please bring DeVon Franklin back to the podcast. We need more, possibly one hour.

[@joi1991]

Praying for your true healing Nick Cannon.

[@user-xs1cu6qc4x]

You can't heal true love

[@StraightUp101]

@@user-xs1cu6qc4x Yes you can.

[@IMADIVA1127]

This is so healthy for black men I love this ❤

[@steph1448]

It is something that his marriage to MC, what 13 yrs ago, impacted him so much that he ran through about 9 or so women because of that. Wow.

[@MamaFreedom333]

🤯 Yes. Wow.

[@ines-simpson]

You can tell DeVon has really done that serious work to find healing and recover from his hurt, he's embraced his journey a long the way. Well done brother, God bless🙏🏽

[@dawncarey7664]

Nick, Imma need you to look Devon in the eye. You're worthy. He's a man just like you. I love my black brothers!

[@Thestylestrategist]

This ❤❤❤

[@PatriciaRose907]

So funny i noticed that too

[@MrsRita2385]

Him looking away may not be him feeling unworthy, some people, when they're processing things and being vulnerable, they look away. This topic is him being vulnerable with a topic he's never really opened up about.

[@pookulj]

I doubt he doesn't feel worthy...he's thinking and talking. Maybe someone should point that out to him as a interviewer, but I think he was open and transparent.

[@tiabanks5585]

Yep from the beginning he didn't look at him much! He needs to know that could be offensive to some people, but great job Nick!

[@minkagaston]

Nick really needed a therapy session and brought Devon on to play the therapist 😂😂

[@Neek624]

Foreal I'm like are you gonna let him speak or what?!😂😂😂

[@ines-simpson]

Lol I thought the same thing, it was like Devon was interviewing nick about his trauma and brokenness lol enjoyed this episode though👌🏽

[@nikkisjeans]

Yes, that's the premise of the show smh he literally said it first episode

[@miriampamperedinpaper3366]

Dear Nick, God created the institution of marriage. God created the covenant for that. No one can undo that. Marriage can/is the same biblically as it has always been. Marriage is not just a contract/piece of paper. But I digress. You are still wounded and not healed from the 1st marriage and that’s ok; say that instead of beating around the bush. Praying for you.

[@nooriejane]

Sometimes, maintaining eye contact while listening to another overtaxes the brain's capacity to cognitively process the information being received and then having to respond to it. This was an excellent interview! Enjoy watching it without judging body language.

[@shaamya]

Thank you for this comment! So elonquently said. Everyone does not process the same.

[@wrharris05]

It's incredibly brave of Nick to be this vulnerable, saying he was a complete train wreck after his divorce and living hard. He's really examined himself. Hopefully he can move forward into a fully reconciled place both mentally and emotionally. This is great for men to see how much work is needed post divorce to not hurt other ppl and just cause chaos

[@therealjonnicolas]

Great conversation, I cry often and the Lord used me to help my wife learn how to Cry to heal from her father abusing her.. Nick you are on your journey brother!

[@nik69nac]

I truly love this series nick. Please keep doing it. An if u don't have guests, bring the same ones back. We need this❤

[@wampanoagshells9933]

Sit Face to face 🏹 Eye to Eye 🙏🏾👁 small adjustments are huge Fantastic Program

[@trinjuwan4422]

I ❤ this segment with Nick & Devon...Beautiful KINGS❤👑💯

[@dw9054]

It really is!

[@TheDopamineEffect]

“We putting they kids thru college by pretending like we don’t communicate” -Nick Cannon. Good episode!

[@Dennisjnr_]

The bros are trauma bonding in a healthy, educative and uplifting way. I am here for it!

[@sekoaib]

Nick was the one going through counselling and he revealed how much he still loves Mariah, he doesn’t want to get married again because he still loves her and nobody compares to Mariah. And that’s probably why he has so many kids it was to conceal how heart broken he is. I feel for him

[@kp2855]

That't what I'm seeing and hearing

[@tenishajohnson9302]

This was very good. This topic could be an entire series. Marriage is hard, and when you enter into it broken, damaged, and unware that it takes work, divorce is almost inedible. Sharing our stories helps us heal, and it has the power to heal others.

[@shayshay6814]

I like that Nick’s goal is to encourage men to self reflect & highlighting how intricate the thought process can be.

[@DesiLu4Life]

I kinda like the twists, Nick! Always a clean dresser (styled up or down)! 🔥❤️

[@winwinproperties3477]

devon is the type of male figure all men need in their circle of friends.

[@blessingsr4real]

This is so good to see and hear black men openly discuss how they dealt with being hurt. I feel like this solidifies why Nick was having all those children. Now it seems like he is aware of the why, God is good. Happy that they are both on the path to doing better and healing. I wish more black men would speak on subjects such as vulnerability.

[@yolandaslade1059]

When is Part 2? This was very good! Unfortunately, NOTHING in this world and society is the way God originally intended it to be.....we are way out of God's order and plan, smh

[@alexislane8431]

This was a great interview because these men were being vulnerable about their experience. I was not aware of how hurt Nick Cannon was from his failed marriage. It sounds like he is aware that his brokenness has impacted his behaviors with women. I wonder how the mothers of his children will react to this interview?

[@Msladyrae92]

He’s touched on it a few times before. It seems it’s why he really lost the belief in marriage. I hope he finds the value in marriage again.

[@RemeePooh]

He should have been a better husband who was PRESENT in his marriage and who wasn't emotionally and mentally abusive/manipulative. He was too concerned with 100 jobs and proving outsiders wrong that he was bigger and better than his more famous and richer wife. He shouldn't have been caught flirting with women on-line on Twitter with messages he meant for DMs. He shouldn't have been DMing naked women period. He is the reason his marriage fell apart and why Mariah left him, and never regretted leaving.

[@morrisfletcher4201]

This was an incredibly powerful interview on every level. I echo the sentiment that there's not enough space where men; particularly black men are allowed to be absolutely vulnerable about their emotions, heart break in marriage and ultimately healing. Just a very candid conversation, they're both highly intelligent and evolving emotionally and spiritually.

[@wealthyaccent3616]

I think y’all keep forgetting he’s bringing these folks on to hear him as a counseling session

[@TabRucker-he1pe]

This is REAL TALK!!! Keep the transparency coming! Love it!

[@cj10109]

Nick was devastated about that divorce 😅😅 Shout out to Devon for counseling Nick.

[@quietquintessa5270]

Love this so much!! Really happy they came together for this one! Super dope!

[@xxmoniquexx1966]

Vulnerability leads to Victory. luv it

[@MHopper2]

I love this for Nick Cannon. I knew his choices were from a place of hurt, pain, and brokenness. I pray for complete healing to both of these men. 🙏🏽💪🏾🤎

[@l.g.355]

Great conversation! Wish we could have heard a bit more from Devon tho. Nick spoke the whole show…..

[@justmichelle9963]

I thought it was just me that noticed that. I'm reading the comments and no one else mentioned this. Thanks!

[@l.g.355]

@@justmichelle9963yes girl! Like Sir… let the GUEST speak…. Didn’t you bring them on to tell THEIR STORY….

[@mztellit0026]

Devon sd what he had to say. Yall just want to be nosy and think he if he spoke more he wld say something about MG. The conversation amongst the ✌🏽is what was supposed to be sd nothing more nothing less!

[@shantased1041]

WOW THANK YOU FOR SHARING! GOD BLESS YOU MAN, THANK YOU LORD FOR MAKING OUR WAY PROSPEROUS 💯

[@Msladyrae92]

11:03 I don’t know if Nick fully realizes what he’s saying. He’s pointing out that having to do visitations with his first set of twins was painful yet he made several other children in broken homes that he would have to have visitation with. I don’t understand . Is it that he purposely created these children or is it that they filled a void? I think he’s yet to really answer that.

[@missfavoured]

First time, I noticed DeVon is emotionally and in person transparent about his ended marriage. Loving this!

[@jujubee90275]

I love Devon spirit. Nick I hope you are in some effective Therapy. As a psychotherapist with 21 years in this field not all therapists are effective.

[@tropicallymixed.]

Someone tell Nick when you're interviewing someone, you're supposed to face them and look them in the eyes. Devon should not be staring at the side of your face.

[@user-xs1cu6qc4x]

That's because the subject at hand was a touching subject, he wanted to cry. The subject of divorce is still heart sore for him

[@tropicallymixed.]

@@user-xs1cu6qc4x He did it from the beginning.

[@noble604]

Actually for men, science says it’s most comfortable to sit side by side if you want a man to open up with anyone... your teen son, a full grown man, man to man, man to woman, cop to suspect.... Facing eye to eye for a man is seen as confrontational. The position with two people sitting in the front seats of a car etc works. It’s women who like to be looking into each other’s eyes for conversational “intimacy.” For men, facing the other person is typically an obstacle.

[@wealthyaccent3616]

Hater

[@jayman9388]

What have you done?

[@sierrabrooks7873]

Thank you Nick and Devon- this was beautiful ❤

[@mishawilliams4319]

Praying for Nick's true healing ,and being whole 🙏🏾

[@ces735]

Sounds like this is more to counsel Nick.

[@kookiekrumbles]

Yep

[@justmichelle9963]

I said the exact same thing!!!

[@cocosheabuttarosemaryqueen9204]

Yes

[@WiseKings131]

Meaning conversation. Definitely need a part 2

[@hettybaker2813]

Nick my black brother, you are not a failure, you are human, we make mistake, you are a good father, dont be so hard on yourself. Devon, you are a man of god and its shows, the right christian woman will come.

[@locks4u2c]

Great interview! Looking forward to hearing the rest of it😊

[@BrennonOne]

Would've LOVED to hear more of why Devon actually filed... but I should've know better. Felt more like a therapy session for Nick.

[@aikirej]

He may have mentioned it in his book. I kinda want to read it now lol

[@BrennonOne]

@@aikirej Good point. I need to grab a copy, too.

[@PicturesofHealth-POH]

I think Devon shared a tidbit at about the 23:00 minute mark....because we hold someone accountable for something they never agreed to do. I always thought his filing was out of unmet expectations.

[@krazykc06]

I wouldn't be surprised if he wanted kids and she didn't or he expected it

[@Liyoncejones]

i freaking love Nick. #drawntothestruggle 🤦🏽‍♀️

[@breakthrough2682]

Nickity Nic needs him a Kingdom woman and to convert to a Kingdom man and he'll see through different Lenz.... yep! This convo was wholesome ❤

[@oliviabrown6405]

I love everything about this interview. It’s authentic. Praying for both men and their healing. I hope that this overflows and encourages others to find a place to be vulnerable, open and heal.

[@blackPirl]

Looking forward to part 2!!👏🏾👏🏾👏🏾👏🏾👏🏾

[@WiseKings131]

Powerful conversation based on who they were married to. The entertainment industry is different with status compatibility. But shout out to the brothers

[@sparr5132]

This is the conversation we should have gotten more time on with these two men. Beautifully done! One suggestion- please let your guest speak more.

[@shambramulder4082]

I don’t think Nick and I agree on what accountability means. He thinks it’s acknowledging but not changing behavior and healing.

[@aikirej]

Yea I think you might be right.

[@justmichelle9963]

Absolutely!!!

[@sharonboxley8361]

Exactly...he stated I hated the term #visitation but has gone on to have more children that he #literally has to make a visitation plan to see...which means being #reckless is still how he approaches things in life...

[@LadyS723]

I agree 💯

[@DesiLu4Life]

GET HEALED!! I enjoyed the interview ❤

[@EarthieKitt]

Beautiful conversation, love the transparency. I look forward to part two.

[@justmichelle9963]

There was indeed a "contract" Nick. It was a covenant (an agreement) between the man, woman and God. This is what marriage is in the simplest form.

[@EarthieKitt]

I do wish Nick would let the guests speak more.

[@FeedingTime1979]

Our Prophet Lovy is who said “Broken people breaks things”

[@KJ0042]

Thank you both for your honesty and transparency and sharing your thoughts and experiences. God bless you!

[@go2yourself]

Sooo thankful for this transparent conversation... ❤😊 thank you

[@francinadozier1172]

Nick Cannon stomach flat!!! Abs.

[@taffrivers]

My good Brothers... 💯👏

[@Brandirell]

So good! 🙌🏾

[@SindiTheMidwife]

Wow this was a great conversation love it for men they need to do this more

[@kaiyad18]

This was a great interview

[@jermaineogden9143]

These are great conversations! I appreciate the vulnerability from both these brothers 🙏🏾

[@anitajones7090]

I love this!

[@RemeePooh]

Mariah would definitely not do it again. She's definitely implied this. She wouldn't have married him.

[@user-cv7nj7xt7h]

Oceans of blessings y'all ❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤

[@franklinstatus4]

Good stuff fellas! 🔥🔥🔥

[@Ebany_]

Nick is really eating with this show. Idk why it's slow on view growth

[@wrharris05]

Hilarious 😂 statement about Jesus and his boys 😅 outchea in the streets! Love ❤️that analogy

[@controversialmann5345]

Couldn’t think of 2 more different human beings😂

[@martij3220]

I agree 100% with Nick on the institution of marriage today. I will not do it again either, and I've been in relationship for 25 years after making a commitment to one another.

[@charcharpr]

This is a beautiful conversation ❤

[@wrharris05]

This is a very good conversation

[@MonicaLovelyGant]

Only an unlearned woman would tell a man not to express himself...❤

[@geraldcoleman4410]

Dr. Claud Anderson as a guest

[@ChristopherWilliams-eh6zs]

Great Interview 😃

[@Niece88]

Nick what are you looking at? I felt distracted from what your were saying . We love you. We just trying to understand the messages not only verbal but body language too. ❤

[@NeicyD14]

Awesome conversation 👏

[@yonisteamwellnessspa1]

We often times assume that the person who has chosen us is mature enough and knowledgeable enough to fully live us however they coming with everything they are also lacking and have unhealed as well.

[@kp2855]

Nick doing all the talking 🙏🏽

[@c0cochan3l29]

Like it … some ppl deserve redemption Nick can be one

[@kimpatterson6367]

Great conversation!

[@therealjonnicolas]

Great discussion. Much I can say with my own personally experiences.. one of the top points I’ll comment is to Nick’s comment about Jesus being single. Jesus was then and now and always have been married to His Bride which is comprised of those members of the body of Christ that has drank from His redeeming blood. The New wine.

[@KoKogoddess]

This is more for Nick and it is hard to watch his show--he seems to get ministered to with every guest

[@mr.mckinnon]

Good convo

[@martinaglenn8153]

Keep healing Nick..

[@jahariwilliams1296]

I love this 😂

[@sscott504]

You attract who you are...whole should attract whole as broken attracts broken

[@danieldhardman5388]

When Nick was trying to think of a word to describe himself in that moment following his divorce, I knew exactly what word he was going to land on. - villain. Society has assigned the role of villain to men. So for him to lean into it just felt natural. But the truth is, men are not villains. We are not the necessary evil so many women see us as being. Even all the women who have literally stood in line to have children w him so they can get that money, let's be real, he is still seen as the villian-the one w impute motives and faulty character. I've heard so much negativity about him, even in this series, but none about the women. We are not villians. We are real people w real feelings and good character. Nick is a good person.

[@staceylynnstacy8832]

I am reading The Hollywood Commandments. He was still married at the time he wrote the book. I was curious about how he was handling the end of his marriage. I wish him well. Divorce is hell.

[@CBizTVMedia]

NIck you was getting therapy from this wasn't you? Bless you both brothers. Love Devon.

[@LoniLoni11]

12 children later the walls did go up. Waaaaaay up!

[@geraldcoleman4410]

PowerNomics

[@tamiasmith5883]

❤❤❤❤❤❤😊

[@tamikamowanamartin7593]

If meagan don't love you I love you luv , and I used to love both of yous

[@wrharris05]

Wow he still loves Mariah ❤

[@rittaho9901]

❤❤❤

[@kesbutterfly3928]

I agree. Allow the guest to talk more.

[@nenabraggs2563]

I need a part 2 and 3 please lol