Hearthstone Pack Buying and Opening Strategy: My Strategy of Buying Sets. F2P Guide.

[@HearthstoneMathematics]

This video is an extension to our Hearthstone Economy Research. 👉 kzbin.info/www/bejne/l4urnpRsf9B9qqs What is your strategy? Share your secrets, tips and strategies in the comments.

[@rockstar009821]

Thank you for you work but I think this is the third Video on buying packs after Rastakhan release... we only needed one... Thanks anyway!

[@Kajiyaification]

my strategy is a bold one, spelling reward without a V

[@duelponzac]

I play HS since grand tournament, but only started playing it seriously by the old gods expansion (missed lots of days so my gold networth wasnt that good). up till then i would have classic packs waiting for possible legendaries or just any good card, no adventure wings whatsoever, and by gadgetzan i skiped it completely in order to farm gold so i could start the new year (un goro) with good cards right out of the bat - it wasnt easy tho since this was perhaps the darkest era of this game with reno, pirates, dragons and of course jades; no standard package would beat those guys. So, un goro came and of course i still didn't had a good deck (used a mix of elementals and jades for shaman, wasnt too strong but because there were some kind of full interaction between my cards i wouldnt have any problem playing with it, in fact i started growing some liking to cards like kalimos; that card had so many different usages that i wish i could have an action figurine of him or a big poster XD), but with some dust and sacrificing out-of-the-meta legendaries i could craft jade druid, wich got stronger with frozen throne (although skullking geist and exodia mage were strong counters, at least i could outclass many wild decks that existed - and so wild format took the form we know now a days XD). luckly i had some good fortune with packs so i didn't have to craft many cards in order to have an 100% functional deck, specially a tier 1 btw. (just for the record: i had about 60 - 90 packs each expansion from there on) Right now i consider myself a F2P players (only had the 2 welcome bundle wich i got jaraaxus and malygos from) who only plays when im in the mood, yet who sits on a bank with 10k dust and 4,5k gold with a wealthy decklist (lacking warrior and mage decks). Certainly it took some time but now not only i can play wichever deck i want, i can also go for the ladder if i well desire!

[@jnpg1773]

Towards the end of an expansion i'll buy packs that are rotating out until I get 1 last legendary from each pack. That way I not only grind enough dust for the next expansion, but more importantly flesh out my wild cards without spending dust on them.

[@filippofani4368]

I use to save gold from day 1 of a new expansion untill next one. In this way i will have opened "my maximum number of pacs" from early day of the expansion

[@rutledge6375]

Right, right, I hear you, but... This next pack could contain a legendary

[@Vinbot123]

Noah Gilchrist this is why I have never had more than 300 gold ever and I’ve played for about 2 years

[@kukaracha262]

@@Vinbot123 did u get that legendary?

[@Vinbot123]

Yeah I have gotten like 15

[@kiddo3833]

Ive played for 6

[@flamingolols767]

im overly sentimental and dont like to disenchant cards even if i never use them.

[@brucewayne2956]

I have a golden Lorewalker Cho. It worths a free legendary but I never disenchanted it too.

[@LirikSnaps]

@@brucewayne2956 you could open it in a future pack if you disenchant it so I suggest you don't.

[@artemshkilov1815]

Hi. I am buster HS. 10$ to up rank 5 write me ds Artem#9037

[@bluepotato5208]

Artem I probably could. But that might be against the rules of the game or something

[@yuppityyup3402]

@@artemshkilov1815 hi i am yup hs 10$ to up rank 2 wriite me ds youmomslover#6969

[@boryanakasabova5184]

110 packs, 6 legendaries? Bhahaha. I get 3, guaranteed.

[@HearthstoneMathematics]

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[@paulrivieras9762]

And others get 9 so it still evens out ;)

[@jamesadd4566]

it is an average number you will get not guaranteed 6. I got 3 legendary with the new bundle pack include the guarantee one .

[@tobiaspause1775]

@@jamesadd4566 Soo i was lucky. Bought 19 packs and opened 3. Including the new one. Too 2 of them were´nt good ones, but the amount of legendarys this time was great. But i´ve seen it different too. Played nearly a yrear in the beginning bevore i opened Malygos as my first legend. That was in an VERY early state and shortly bevore the first dungeon (naxxramas) came out.

[@robertkurwica2377]

My record is 11 packs 3 legendaries 1epic (classic set luck xd)

[@rkindblom]

These 2 bots have replaced my 2 favourite machines - fridge and pc

[@HearthstoneMathematics]

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[@paulrivieras9762]

So this is where all the bots with random Numbers + Letters in Hearth stone come from!

[@plantpreyer2135]

Is holomancer a bot?

[@Klenner115]

I focus on 3 classes and only spend my resources on those, after crafting the essential cards future decks aren’t as expensive because most of the good cards see play in multiple decks, when opening packs I open until I have most of those clases 6 commons, and 6 rares plus a good amount of neutrals, everything else I just dust it and only craft epics and legendaries that I need

[@gw1265]

Yes it's only difficult to know what to craft.. Once you have crafted and collected the good cards (mostly neutral ones) you're gonna have a good collection and those cards actually stick around for a while especially classic that still has a lot of great cards.

[@briancooley8777]

What if you did this for the Druid class lmao

[@stompingpeak2043]

I do this for rogue, hunter, shaman, and pally. I have almost every card in these sets

[@gw1265]

@@briancooley8777 that's stupid to me but druid doesn't have the worst winrate the worst winrate are shaman then rogue then priest.

[@gw1265]

@@stompingpeak2043 I do this for Hunter Paladin Rogue

[@seanyourhero1765]

this is hands down the best hearthstone channel/content keep up the great work!!

[@Josesucre97]

I'll back you up on that one.

[@theimmux3034]

I've been saving gold for the whole duration of an expansion since KotFT and it's working fantastically. I never invest money in classic packs, always all on a new expansion. I get my classic cards from the brawl packs and I have a very wealthy classic collection. I never play arena tho. I usually open 65-85 packs and I get most of the good cards and craft the cards I don't have and I need

[@benhew2483]

Thanks for the video! Informative, as always. I spend money on the game, but I am always trying to be the most efficient with my money, so these guides are still very relevant. I found that how/when to buy packs is important but I think that a "dusting strategy" is also very important. I used to always dust extra cards immediately or "bad" legendaries only to find out later that they might get nerfed or become useful in fun or meta defining decks later. The two rules (for dusting) I've found the most helpful are: 1) almost never dust a legendary - cause you might open it again in a pack or it may become useful with a later expansion/shift in the meta and 2) don't dust extra cards until you REALLY need to craft something specific.

[@HearthstoneMathematics]

Thank you so much for opinion! :]

[@henrikbruening7806]

I'm arena player for a long time now. I can recommend to start playing arena. In the beginning you will be a little bit tilted and think you are wasting your gold. But after some time with some experience an arena run together with daily quests you will earn enough money to buy at the start of a new expansion a bunch of cards. Currently I am a wild player with a huge collection. And I am near to a f2p player. I only bought stuff like the welcome bundles, which are cheap and totaly worth in my opinion.

[@SaladDongs]

I have been playing arena for a while now but it seems to me there were only very few select periods where skill=wins in arena sadly :( do I suck? Or is arena sort of a diceroll again?

[@henrikbruening7806]

@@SaladDongs It's always a bit of coin flipping and dice rolling but most of the time you can at least about 3 wins if you are unlucky. But on the other side you get big rewards if you earn 7 or more wins. I think my average is about 5.5 wins.

[@arnoldasbucys7786]

Tell me how you learn to win on arena?

[@SaladDongs]

@@arnoldasbucys7786 A big part of it is installing heartharena overlay or watching kripparian a lot. Just take in as much information about each individual card and class and how they compare to eachother, that is sure to optimise your odds. Then there's just trial and error... and also luck. So, good luck to you!

[@henrikbruening7806]

@@arnoldasbucys7786 I'm not a big fan of using heartharena. Don't get me wrong, Heartharena is really good to build a good deck but I think as a good arena Player you have to know which is the best choice without a programm. Watching Kripp can help you more cause he explains a bit why he takes a card and his knowledge is really high. But you will get better in arena by just playing like a run per day. Arena is a gamemode with two important asspects. On one hand you have two build a deck. And on the other hand you have to play the deck. And the playing part is much more important than the picking part. In constructive you play every game about the same. You normaly know the cards of the opponents deck and what you have to play each turn. In Arena you need much better predicting and knowledge about the value of your cards.

[@lorenadimilero8086]

Personally I don't even spend gold on packs. I just use it to play arena when I can. By making sure to complete my quests I'm always going up on gold. And because I can only spend it in arena, I can play unlimited arena, being at 10.000 gold. Also, i tend to stash packs that I win in brawls or arena, and I open them to reward myself for weekly goals. Maybe some people will say this takes the fun away, but why spend money on a game when you can not only play for free, but also use it to stimulate yourself to hit goals in real life? Those stupid things I hate, like going to the doctor, suddenly become better when I reward myself a pack for doing them. Soo.. why use hearthstone to play hearthstone and why not using it instead to make your whole life sweeter? Everytime I craft a legendary card with my limited arena resources i save some money to travel, and these little habits can really articulate and motivate you throught your sometimes boring routine.

[@vuonganh7607]

lorena dimilero Nice idea.

[@adeshb2150]

Didn’t know Warren Buffet plays hearthstone

[@lorenadimilero8086]

​@Retrogamer 420 i'm not super good, I'd say average. it's all about discipline, not about winning. arena, as all things, you can learn by playing it. i know what you mean, I used to lose most of my games when i started. just watched some streamers on twitch ang got a little bit better. you don't need to be a pro to average 4/5 wins. but beside that, if you hate arena as a format, or say you hate risking your gold in general, just login regularly to complete quests and play brawl. you can get a lot of enjoyment in hs without crafting cards. just by appreciating animations, crazy RNG, and stuff like that. sometimes i just randomly play whizzbang decks. and you know what i love more in hs? dungeon run. which is free. when i teach someone hs i let them play dungeon run. a good dungeon run with a beer is endless. infact, if you truly love the game as some streamers show (daneHS really knows how to have fun) sometimes even just watching trailers of new expansion can be a REAL THRILL. Arena of time? Best time EVER. Ultimately, don't blame arena: sometimes you can just get that crazy legendary from weaponized pinada which will make ur day :) , or maybe discover a death knight out of hallucination.. these things happens, and the better you get, the more strategy you get to see in arena ;) - i'm having lot of fun with priest and mass hysteria in arena at the present time, i get to play strategic games and win more than i lose. in the past i specced into warlock, with great results by drafting lifegain. always experiment

[@gugugugu3371]

i'd say the big problem with arena(i've been an arena player for a long time) is that it takes a LOT of time. If you don't spend money in hearthstone, you will spend tons of hours. And arena can be really frustrating sometimes :/

[@lorenadimilero8086]

@@gugugugu3371 hey, yeah i see what you mean. when I feel like there's no intersting deck i can draft. (right now priest with mass hysteria is fun if you pick it, it takes intersting choices). but not always there are cool playstyles. in this case i switch to some other game. i like pokemon battles on showdown, also free and very strategic. i still login everyday on hs thou, play brawl and complete quest so that i can continue to stash resources :)

[@quindecim6942]

I save all my gold between expansions and only open packs with gold on expansion day. i will also buy the pre order bundle. This makes it so that i have between 120 - 150 packs to open at that time and have most of the cards from that expansion and have enough dust to craft anything that looks interesting after a few weeks.

[@arrowghost]

I got tons of wild cards. I mostly keep them is simple, though I don't play Wild, but expect some Adventures & Wild Tavern Brawls. For the new players, you can always find a best friend who would help you clear your quests, though it won't reward you with the 3-win 10 gold, unless if you can bear losses in many matches (you can play a few to reach Rank 20 for the goodies) when a best friend can help you from grinding painfully. This tip is meant for the Casual Players, not Ranked.

[@nikonid0]

Few tips from a player since 2013. - I'm keeping all my useful golden cards, disenchant the others which are weak. - Cancel a quest per day! You can have a better quest by changing a 50 gold quest to a 60-80 and sometimes 100. It's not much (but it's honest work), but it makes the difference in the long run. - Do arenas! watch good players like Kripp. You will know which cards are good to draft and counters. You can use Heartharena to help you draft a good deck. And also, you need just to win 3-4 games to have a bonus dust (small) and sometimes 40-50 gold. You will anyway spend this money on a pack and in bonus you will have more knowledge on arena to improve for the next time. The best is to reach 7 wins to win a pack + 150 gold which is OP. - Keep tracking the number of packs you have purchased for each extension. We say that you get a legendary each 40 packs right? You will have an idea if it's worth continuing to spend ressource on an extension. i.e.: if you have 23 packs open you may consider keeping your gold for the next extension or spending on classic set. If you have 39 open packs until now, you might try to buy few more to see if you get a legendary!

[@TopPotato109]

My strategy is spamming classic packs until I got a dissent collection than open each set in rotation until I open a legendary, after I get one I move to the next set

[@crustyschnozerwarlord7394]

David Belinsky same

[@kamilchulakov]

@@crustyschnozerwarlord7394 how do you have so much gold to do so?

[@crustyschnozerwarlord7394]

SlivKa I don’t really have a lot of gold I just complete at least a quest a day

[@someheree6362]

I make use of the rule that I don't spend any mental capacity on this game and go impulsive. But with your video strategy, my new default is conservative with a bank of gold, especially because of my extreme luck at the dustwoods (I scored gen, baku, shudderwock and hagata) and skipping dustakan rumble

[@lengochuutu4821]

I'm an f2p since Old Gods with a decent collection and have achieved legend multiple times in both Wild and Standard. This is my strategy - Patience is the most important factor. - When i first play Hs, i only use basic decks to achieve rank 20, then shift toward cheap decks like Zoolock and Tempo Rogue (2016 ver., not Keleseth). - About packs, i don't usually buy many because i don't have time to farm gold and i don't use real money. - I often start to accumulate gold 1 month before new expansion, so at the expansion's launch, i can buy approximately 35 packs (including freebies), equivalent to 2 or 3 legendaries. Not many. - After the launch, i will wait until the meta settle and craft some high performance legendaries. While doing that, I continue using my old decks with some modified cards to get gold to buy more packs. - I admit, if you follow this method, you will feel irritated when the expansion launch, but i think that's the best f2p can do. By this way. I usually have 3000 dust in my collection, all rares and commons, 60% epics, 30-40% legendaries. That's acceptable because some legendaries and epics are pure bad

[@riccardoagnano2378]

I guess I'm a bot too then.. I have 5.2k gold right now

[@HearthstoneMathematics]

I greet you at the club of rational players. :]

[@jacket_7]

Me too... bot mode, I have 9.9K

[@NextMcHg]

@@jacket_7 i legit have 13000 Gold LOL i never buy packs nor play arena just save gold for new expansions

[@Jhrickgamer]

damn, i guess the most gold ive ever had at once was like 1400, that's cause i was saving to buy the blackrock adventure

[@t3chn0dr0n3]

10k gold, 20k dust (due to disenchanting all of my Wild cards). Every time a strong deck comes up, I have the dust to immediately craft it.

[@polarbsdlkfj]

Great video as always, but here's a couple things I want to bring up: I don't think it's clear enough when you say "ignore one expansion" that you mean "refrain from buying packs with gold for one expansion," I understood it that way, but others may not. Also, experienced players (and players who want to get better) can always play Arena as part of your rational strategy during the short period between the release of a new set and the meta report. This works because Arena only gives packs from the latest set and you start accumulating resources immediately (or learn more about the game at the cost of gold). The only downside is the time it takes to do an Arena run every day.

[@HearthstoneMathematics]

Thank you so much for opinion! :]

[@KnownAsKenji]

Experienced F2P here. I think one important tip is, remember the regular 40 pack pity timer if you're wanting to buy at least that many from a set. That timer is counted per-set and is reset once you get a Legendary, so I feel it's a bit smarter to open from one set exclusively and stop right when you get that Legendary, then consider if you want to go another 'stretch' with that set or move on to another that needs a bit more coverage. I go with a pack a day but it's worth it for fun. Most of the time I can still end up with about 2k gold and some ks of dust so I can get a small jump on that expansion week when the meta is fresh.

[@gw1265]

Wdym you get one every 10 right

[@argumentumadhominem3977]

you get it for the first te you open. After you get one legendary the pity timer will be 40.

[@bluesy92]

Pity timer has been removed from the game...

[@oom-3262]

Somehow I got my 5th golden legendary card. Golden one. Yes I am f2p. Yes I am proud of it.

[@zalanmarkus4939]

My first golden Legendary was that rogue minion from the classic sett who get's really big when comboed whit a crap tonn of cards (i don't really play rogue so i disenchandet it and crafted the shaman Quest ftom Un'goro) my second (and last at this point) was a golden Runespear. I'm free to play too

[@alejandrom.]

7:37 it's more correct to say that they are erased from Standard, because the expansions are in wild since the realise, not only after the rotation.

[@HearthstoneMathematics]

You're right, thank you! :]

[@MineQuesterMax]

I usually collect 500 gold then buy 5 classic packs everytime and when a new expansion comes out I just preorder

[@Lemushki]

I always buy (when affordable) 110 packs per expansion (this time I am still missing 60 for Rastakhan). So you just confirmed I am not doing that bad there! Nice Then use my dust for past expansions or wild cards as I preffer buying the newer set everytime until I get all the rares from it

[@Lemushki]

Edit; and then a legendary

[@den20sa]

I always start saving on day 1 of expansion. I've been doing this since Ungoro and I don't think I've ever accumulated 10k gold for the next expansion. Yes, I'm a casual player, but always complete the daily quest. Usually it amounts to 8k-9k ish gold when I'm saving from day 1.

[@Ace95616]

Something I did in the past was not spend any money on any of the packs, but buy into each and every adventure and new player products, using cards in them to create my decks. Worked really well. Spent around $80 on the game to date and have a decent collection in a few classes. Also, I disenchant every card in classes that I have no interest in and use the dust gained to fund the classes I truly enjoy.

[@rafaelaires9604]

Since I saw your video on which expansion has the best cards, I'm now buying only Rumble cards (at least until I get another legendary, I have 3 already). I'm a completely f2p player and I spent the last 8 months buying only classic packs, but I'm still missing a lot of classic cards. I have now almost 10k of dust, which I am saving for the rotation. I apologize for any mistakes in this commentary, I'm a brazilian fan. Love your channel!!

[@ULFRAKI]

Rafael Aires - buying rumble is the same as buying witchwood and doomsday because they will rotate out together, might as well spend on the better expansions

[@theneighborskid.]

I think patience is the greatest challenge for all players, after so long(3months) I could only save up to a range of 1200~5000 gold(never got more than 6000gold), and still use up gold for dust to craft resources for wild legendaries(because the standard mode’s meta is getting more and more tedious)

[@KnownAsKenji]

@0:50 DBZ Card Game heck yeah that is my JAM Did attacking with heroes over a decade before HS. Your deck is themed around your 'hero' and you get to raise your power level over time. Very fun game.

[@Jonius]

My strategy when starting out (Aug 2017) was buying packs of each expansion with gold, as I liked having a variety of cards, and would wait patiently until I opened some commons and rares (Ravaging Ghoul, Chain Gang and Blood Razor come to mind). By Apr 2018 I had 40 or so packs opened from each of the 5 expansions in Mammoth Standard, had been playing cheap decks through much of it, and started buyng pack bundles. Now, I look, I've spent a lot of money, also to round up my Wild collection, but have a lot of dust saved up any time I want to play some control deck. Also I've never spent much gold on Classic packs, just waiting for Tavern Brawl ones, past 100 or so packs I had nearly every card I needed, except for some legs and epics.

[@WolfLykaios]

What I used to do was buy only the preorders, and just spend the gold in whatever. But after seeing your videos, I decided I'm still going to only buy the preorders but I'm also going to save gold until the next expansion. Also, stockpile the dust, though is better to just not disenchant cards until you want to craft a deck, that way if anything got nerfed you get more dust. So weird that the act of buying packs also has strategy, but I like it.

[@rockylosco5596]

O my gosh I just saw a Star Wars ccg card back ,remind me of my teen years in the mid to late nineties,wow that gave me chills

[@davidcano1929]

The effort put into this channel is legendary. Keep up the good work!

[@HearthstoneMathematics]

Thanks:]

[@den20sa]

Don't disenchant cards right away. Wait for nerf or HoF patch. I remember during Giggling Inventor nerf, I got 9+ normal and 2 golden. I netted more than 2k dusts after the nerf.

[@radulescumihai7089]

Excelent work guys , i m an old ftp wild player but i watch this video with pleasure even if I know all the informations, I apreciate this chanel very much

[@jamil5615]

Arena is the best mode of play by far

[@SlawomirC]

In Wild i only left warlock, mage and priest cards. Rest i change to dust for next expanaions

[@srdjanruzic]

I never play wild and i never ever tried to play it so i always disenchant all cards that go to wild and also i craft all hall of fame cards for a profit!

[@micahjohnson817]

I open packs till I open a golden legendary from that set, currently over 200 packs into Rastikhan, still looking for a golden legendary

[@SirenSong13]

What happens when you inevitably get a golden legendary in the first pack and are left with only 5 cards from that set? XD

[@Woodsy2575]

I've been doing that strategy/arena for years now, I haven't had to spend much since 2015

[@thanoschalvatzis2953]

Dunno about y'all but I started playing HS like 4 months ago and I have earned like 13k dust (0 money spent). 70+ arena wins overall so Idk if I did smth differently

[@darkdalon86]

I actually went half and half. I spent most of my gold saved up halfway through the expansion through the quest and free arena earnings. I only disenchant duplicates or gold cards under an epic value to get more dust saved, though I have already collected 90% of the Classic set since launch. The only pre-order I bought was the Adventure Solos back in 2016, and the Boomsday Supreme order, yet ignored Rastakhan Rumble because mid-year expansion always has a higher value. I rarely even compete for pass level 20 in rank, because the decks I build are more themed based rather to purely win. It's also best to send feedback to the developers on potential deck builds and give them ideas on what could make the game more unique in the next expansion. Their current theme is always the one that seems lacking on card types or one game-changing card effect. My advice for new players is playing every other day to complete your quest and always finish your Brawls by the end of the week. You'll earn just enough gold to get at least 3-4 to packs that way. Though not every card is worth it, but may become better with the next expansion or nerf.

[@SelathTV]

My strategy: Arena.

[@gamerindependente]

I used to be the impulsive type. Then i tried Arena (and failed miserably). Now i'm trying to be more rational and save resources to buy packs during the release of an expansion.

[@mkcinema1]

when i was new i played a budget deck for half a year so i could collect cards, now i have a very decent collection with almost every common and rare card in standard, my strategy is saving money 1 month before a new exp

[@rmtsapphire0]

I've played for a few years now and my way of doing things is pick 3 classes (minimum) and disenchant all cards of that class that you get. For me, I disenchant ALL Priest, Paladin and Warlock. This gives me far more freedom with the other classes to make different decks. When I was a new player I picked one or two decks of the same class (Hunter) and aimed purely for that until I gathered enough resources to play shaman too

[@ikpc2195]

Back at it again with an awesome vid

[@nicklasparbstsrensen4294]

I have played f2p on and off for years, but am now focusing on classic packs and core legendaries to improve my base. I am not sure I have the patience for the rational strategy, but I do see the value of it. Perhaps if the next expansion sucks...

[@PYREABLE]

I usualy preorder then spend the entire expansion buying packs while trying to keep my dust expenses at minimum, then when a new expansion drops, just preorder and craft the few cards I want to play with the pile of dust I saved, then repeat

[@Suika_Ibuki_The_Drunk_Oni]

I demand full art version of CHRIS!

[@edumarquez]

My strategy is build a file in Excel with card's list (for Class, Rarity and Set) that I dont have, add my Dust and so I can calculate witch card need according Data Report or Top Decks or what Decks I can create, what is the most expensive Class or what cards is about rotate.

[@HearthstoneMathematics]

Wow, are you a bot like me? :]

[@abrakadaniel5908]

@@HearthstoneMathematics Haha, I do it too. But I think its called being a nerd. :]

[@primiii]

I did your strategy before the videos,I'm a genius :)

[@HearthstoneMathematics]

Welcome to the club of rational players :]

[@SuperYtc1]

I save up about 10k gold and 20 classic packs (from tavern brawls/quests) each expansion. I also pre-order the expansions vis amazon coins. So I usually end up with about 170 expansion packs + 20 classic packs each expansion, while spending about £35 each time (about £100 per year). While being clever with dust, this allows me to play basically any decks I want. I can’t play all decks, but the ones I sacrifice are the classes I don’t like anyway.

[@chinyang1200]

I mix my Strategies I spend For a month and a half After newest Set release then Save up to buy 20-30+ packs also still never spent a single cent but always aim for the best legendary

[@pudas9381]

I buy packs every 100 golds for about the first two months after an expansion's release, then I start saving resources. I Usually open 50/60 packs with golds every expansion

[@marcelomatos8771]

After a long time of frustration, a decided to collect all the cards of the game. Normal and gold. I found there is a lot to lose dusting cards. My strategy now is to dust only duplicates.

[@sirhawkjames]

Since the achievements and stuff rolled out you can't do your quests in the tavern brawl so for classes that I don't have decks for I've been using auto-complete and they get wins in high plat, low diamond, around 40% winrate. They're not bad

[@migueldelaperla]

I am playing since tgt era and for the first time i am saving gold almost since the release of ratakhan for the new expansion to come. the first expansions of each "year" are more important because they remain in the standard mode longer.

[@cadlyn]

i normally buy the new packs (with gold) for the first two months, then after that i stock pile my gold for the next set. If money is available i'll pre-order but if not then no worries

[@sale3367]

Guide: just buy packs from newest expansion and whenever you need an older card craft it, if u need dust dust what u dont use but from newest expansion, that was u can still open it later again. Idk works for me, what do i know, ive almost all cards. Also dust all goldens.(i get hated on for that)

[@LuvvM4tt]

Haven’t played the game in about 4-5 years just coming back 😭 only have one deck which I got for free which is big Druid with dragons.

[@Raucher15]

get free dust from hall of fame cards: 1. craft them (golden) when announced 2. when they rotate you get your dust back (and keep the card unlike for nerfed cards, where you only get dust if you disenchant them) 3. now you can disenchant them for EXTRA dust

[@imik_plays]

So good to see you again bruh!

[@HearthstoneMathematics]

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[@timofeybushev1144]

I've always just strived to play on different servers, containing separate collections, and disenchanting the most of collection to craft a meta deck. This way I'm always able to play at least 3 good ladder decks.

[@ClanAtlas_Indie_Games]

A trick that works well for me, instead of disenchanting cards right away, "pretend" they are already disenchanted but leave them in your collection. Then, when you are absolutely sure you want to create a specific deck, disenchant the necessary cards so you can craft the rest of the cards in your deck all at the same time.

[@ZapWo]

Realy love these informative videos!

[@HearthstoneMathematics]

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[@Maurice040684]

My strategy is: I play Wild. All investitions in Standard are necessarily short term investitions because of rotations. But if you invest in Wild there will be a point, where you only need a few cards of an new expansion, because you can use a lot of strong cards forever, like Ragnaros or Loatheb.

[@fabsky]

I do Pretty similar the rational strategy. I Buy the Preorder 50 Packs and I have Right now 5700 Gold what I will spend when the new Expansion Comes. Then I wait 3-4 Weeks to the Time where Streamers beginn to recommend Cards and I watch the Stats on HSReplay which (legendary) Cards will be played the most and then I create them with dust. And I will be create more of them in the next Expansion (because this Cards will be in Standard till 2021) then I did it in the current Expansion (because this Cards will be in in Standard till 2020). Same strategy with my second Free to Play account only that I will not by the Preorder and im a Little stingier with creating out of dust.

[@cacecarlos]

I use credit from Google opinion rewards to buy entries to the arena!

[@DJarr216]

I know this is a F2P guide, but still, one thing you didn't mention in this video are the special bundles that blizzard sells for a limited time (like the recent new lunar year bundle). When buying packs, the regular 60 pack bundles give you the most packs per $, €, £, ... but these special bundles are even better value. The 60 packs bundle costs me 69.99€, so that's 1,17€/pack The recent new lunar year bundle was 19.99€ for 10 witchwood, 10 boomsday and 10 rastakhan packs, so that's 0.67€/pack That's a huge difference in terms of value. And with the new e-sports bundles announced to support hearthstone e-sports I imagine better value bundles will arrive more frequent. A more patient credit card strategy, one where you only pay for pre-order and limited time offer bundles, can reduce that price of 985$ you listed by a lot. I started during ungoro as a free to play player, but due to lack of a good card collection I lost interest and stopped playing hearthstone for a while, missing the last month or so of Ungoro, the entire time of Knights of the frozen throne and about 2 months of Kobolds and catacombs. And now after allmost a year of playing and paying only for pre-orders and special bundles (during the year of the raven), I can say my collection is about the size of a free to play player that bought 110 packs of each set with gold. I've spend about 300-350€ on this game spread across a year, which is way less then the 985$ mentioned to get about the same collection immediatly.

[@draftsmanCompulsive]

I use the rational strategy, but I don't play a lot so I usually open just around 30 packs every expansion and I also get rid of all the wild cards. I'm not very good at the game, the standard mode is hard enough for me

[@luqmanulhakiem3014]

F2P player here. Ill keep my gold when they tease about new expansion. They usually reward us with few packs as a kick-start. Then i ll spend my gold to buy more as to comply with the 10 packs guarantee. Leftovers gold will be used once the meta is stable to pick the best set to be purchased. Completing quest everyday grant me a pack a day, sometimes a pack in 2 days. Depends.

[@finalfantasy3706]

You should also point out that Blizzard do bundles almost every month like 40 packs for 24.99$. Do You consider it valuable to buy those ?

[@twofeetunder7212]

If you want your biggest bang for your buck, then yes. Definitely. All I buy in Hearthstone is pre-orders and bundles cuz they have such good value and I have a really good wild collection because of this. I've also bought the adventures which have really good value, specially LoE

[@pikmints]

They mentioned disenchanting cards that get nerfed for full dust value, but they didn't mention saving some dust for possible Hall of Fame announcements. I have enough dust saved up now to craft a golden legendary + some other cards should I need to craft cards for the Hall of Fame. Blizzard refunds you the full dust of any card they send to the Hall of Fame from your collection, making these cards essentially free to craft as long as you do so before they are officially sent out.

[@Guillute]

I buy a pack as soon as reach 100 gold because of the dust. 40 dust help me craft a card I'm looking for. I'm not worried about The next expansion. I'll slowly buy those packs too

[@יותםברנתן]

I play mostly arena like 90% and usually get more then 7 wins so if you know how to draft arena it's much better then any other way to get your resources

[@vuonganh7607]

Your rational strategy is the same as mine. Even though I bought pre-orders for the last 5 sets (except Boomsday) and a couple of bundles, I still apply this strategy. And as a Wild player, I pay even more attention to cards that are used alot in Wild. It’s boring sometimes because I always have an urge to try new decks, I have nearly 30,000 dust so it is very tempting :)). What do you think about crafting good epics from a new expansion while you still opening packs from it?

[@HearthstoneMathematics]

I stopped opening new packs a week after the release. :] You have a really very good bank of dust.

[@LirikSnaps]

Generally I never disenchant any extra copies. When the nerfs come, I typically disenchant 3-4 of every nerfed card and gain substantially more dust if I didn't. This is especially true about common cards since they are worth 8 times their base dust value (5 base 40 nerf) and you're more likely to have excess copies of them. Typically I play an aggressive deck both because of dust cost (most fast decks cost under 7000)and game efficiency (5 min VS 20 min games makes the grind faster) .

[@sting2291]

Thank you so much for this awesome guide! I will use this strategy now! Thank you for the video !

[@parazitul1986]

My strat is mostly arena. I have an average winrate of almost 7 in last 3 expansions. Which allows me to open around 150-200 packs per expansion, without investin huge amounts of time. I also start gattering resources by 1-2 months before. But that is because i dont want to craft many decks in the begining of a expansion. Usually 2-3 and gather i'm bored i go to arena. Pro-tip: At the begining of expansion arena is most fun. And if you play seriously you will also get easier to higher wins.

[@caleblinna9146]

When you say gather resources do you mean save gold and then play arena when the new expansion comes out? Or save dust?

[@parazitul1986]

@@caleblinna9146 I gather both dust and gold. I dont usually stop playing arena, just reduce it. Also, when new expansion comes out , i buy packs from all my money, except 500 gold. That is for arena. It kinda is enough because, with daily quests, i win more than lose on a daily basis.

[@davix632]

A very good strategy is: preserve a good amount of dust to craft golden cards in case of Hall of fame. It garantee extra dust for you. Think to this april, only baku and Genn gives you 3200 of extra dust if you craft their golden version.

[@hentikirby7142]

Yeah I make like 10 accounts and use the cards that i get from packs to make whatever deck. ALso for anyone that doesnt know. If u login with a mobile device like apple or samsung u can get 3 packs and a card back

[@rockylosco5596]

I’m always about three sets behind on trying to get cards,or more

[@ekzarcunkotov1026]

i buy packs from an expansion until i get a legendary from that set then move to the next set and repeat once i get from most recent to most old and get a legendary of the most old set i repeat the process all over again

[@RoomerJ]

Jeez. I spent 20.00 about 4 years ago and said that was enough money for Blizzard even if the game keeps going another 20 years. I knew it was bad but until this I never knew how ruthlessly they are towards their player base. Really opened my eyes. Don't think I'll ever recommend this game to a friend again.

[@RallyOX]

I'm a filthy "credit card" strategist because I'm not a very patient man. I've got about 2-3 meta decks and other two "fun" decks, Tesspionage and Deathrattle Rogue. Buut starting this March I will save gold for the new expansion for an extra ~20 packs, but I'll still buy the preorder. MUH LEGENDARIES.

[@hansgeorg718]

I started saving gold later this time so "only" 3,5 k gold so far. But i have over 50k dust saved over the years so im fine:)

[@dementedwombat8514]

hans georg yea I did the big preorder for the first time as I am semi new but I’m gonna save up gold over this expansion

[@AccentonComedy]

Love the Murloc. :)) Cool video as always. But lets be real... ...you need to buy pre order and special promotions, and that is it. Also, play arena. (dont disenchanted cards). There is no complicated math needed....

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[@AccentonComedy]

@@HearthstoneMathematics You should just make math equation like this: Full card collection = Get a job. Simple math. :D

[@SaladDongs]

@@AccentonComedy Hearthstone is pg7 I am pretty sure. What should they do, make their beds?

[@WolfLykaios]

No complicated math needed unless you like complicated math. Then complicated math is needed.

[@AccentonComedy]

@@WolfLykaios Simple math + complications = complicated math. Hope this will resolve our argument. :)

[@Hashishin13]

I don't think people appreciate the pity timer as much as they should. It only occurred to me recently that if your chances go up and up until they are guaranteed, whenever you are buying any type of pack and thinking of maybe switching to another you should probably wait until the next legendary if you can.

[@zikochakala]

i don't disenchant cards only golden one's (in some cases i don't specialy if the card has a chance to be neurfed or rotate to the hall of fame ) i only disenchant neurfed cards this can make you a lot of dust , only work if u have already a great amount of dust

[@narakjangeieijingna9251]

Best game!!! I love hearthstone bring my money 💰 💰

[@twofeetunder7212]

I just buy a pack whenever I have 100 gold available of a certain expansion until I get a legendary then I move to the next. I'm currently doing all the sets rotating as I play wild because imo it's just a better format and is cheaper.

[@lucashurpia7474]

i have a question: why it is advised to not craft cards from expansions that are going to rotate out(or even buy packs)? are we not going to receive the full dust cost from these sets anyway?

[@dockychen7976]

This is a well made channel you made here

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[@felipeluz5035]

(Long answer. Probably only Bot Mathematician will actually care about this. xD) I'll break how I use/keep my resources in 3 parts: * In terms of spending/saving gold: I usually buy packs until gold about a month after the expansion release. After this moment, I only use gold to enter the Arena (which I, most of the time, can get 4+ wins and break even). After about 2~3 months of the expansion, I start playing less arena as the next expansion gets closer and closer (I do this so I guarantee I keep the all the gold, I'm don't have enough skill to go past 7 wins consistently). * In terms of enchanting cards: I rarely enchat cards. I probably create even less cards than I should. xD But the way I do is: I see the cards I opened in packs and then see the decks there are strong in the meta. I don't try to create necessarily the best cards in the best decks in the meta, I just try to see the decks tier 1~2 that I'm missing just a few cards, 1~2 legendaries and 2~4 epics is near my limit. (Unless the deck seems really fun to play. Sometimes I make exceptions. :v) A problem with that is that most of the time, what dictates the class I'm going to play is not my preference, but the boosters that I open. On the Frozen Throne, for example, I opened BloodReaver Gul'Dan, so I pretty much played only Warlock. But in the same time, I never opened Carnivorous Cube and some other important cards of Cube-Lock, so It was mostly Zoo-Lock, Demon-Lock and similar decks without the Cube. * In terms of cards going to Wild in rotation: I don't disenchant them. I have enough dust so I can keep up with what I spend, so I keep my cards as they go to Wild. The only things I do when rotation comes is: - I enchant any card going to the Hall of Fame, in golden version. (Of course, no charge here.) - I buy packs of the expansions about to rotate until I open the last legendary ever and reset the pity timer. (I've already done this with the 3 expansions about to rotate in April.) - Also, I buy 5 packs of each expansion so I have some "Legacy packs" stored in my collection. I will probably never open these, so it's probably a waste of gold. But I like to have them. :v Those last 2 decisions probably make it so I have less gold than usual on the first expansion of the year. But oh well. It's how I like to play, as both a Standard and Wild player. :P

[@gerrion25]

As a hoarder, I really, REALLY hate to disenchant any cards - even if the cards are bad, I save them in case they get their 15 minutes of fame (normaly on Tavern Braws). I'm a light spender, only purchasing when the deal appeals for me - I instantly bought the Witchwood pre-order for the extra 20 packs, Mecha Jaraxxus was a funny Hero that I enjoy, but Rastakhan felt so lackluster that I skipped all payment options. As for gold and packs, I invest them in Arenas, opening packs in bundles of 10 or less for the guaranteed satisfaction of an Epic. However, I try to save 3k to 5k gold for the next expansion, pre-order or not.. So yeah, a mix of strategies. Veterans pick what suits best to them, right? ^_^

[@netawa]

Welp.... From the start I just got around 5 packs and just disenchanted them to get some dust. Then I've created mid level elemental shaman and played ladder some time. There was no legendary cards in this deck but somehow I managed to be on 11 rank almost each season. Then I used my new resources and played arena some time. (Of course with checking some guides beforehand) Combining Arena and ladder for now is a simple way to constantly get resources.... And as a result I ended up crafting evolve shaman and enjoying wild ladder. Sometimes I play arena, but well.... Now I can just get resources.

[@Creationweek]

Big tip don't dust extra cards unless u absolutely need to to make a craft and never use the dust all button. When u do dust cards prioritize dusting the extras of crap cards that don't see play especially from older expansions this way u maximize your chances of getting full dust from nerfs. I had 8 copies of emerald spell stone for 800 dust after the last nerf

[@danmiller7709]

I just preorder each expansion. Doesn’t seem weird to me to spend 150 a year to play almost any deck I want. I also pile up gold. I understand not everyone can do that, but Warcraft has a monthly fee right? $10 a month? $120? Just doesn’t seem too bad to me if you love the game.

[@pohenixwielki3178]

Have you posted the pack experiment video or its not out jet?

[@HearthstoneMathematics]

I will talk about the results soon. Thanks for remembering. :]