Hearthstone Pack Buying and Opening Strategy: My Strategy of Buying Sets. F2P Guide.

[@HearthstoneMathematics]

This video is an extension to our Hearthstone Economy Research. 👉 kzbin.info/www/bejne/l4urnpRsf9B9qqs What is your strategy? Share your secrets, tips and strategies in the comments.

[@rockstar009821]

Thank you for you work but I think this is the third Video on buying packs after Rastakhan release... we only needed one... Thanks anyway!

[@Kajiyaification]

my strategy is a bold one, spelling reward without a V

[@duelponzac]

I play HS since grand tournament, but only started playing it seriously by the old gods expansion (missed lots of days so my gold networth wasnt that good). up till then i would have classic packs waiting for possible legendaries or just any good card, no adventure wings whatsoever, and by gadgetzan i skiped it completely in order to farm gold so i could start the new year (un goro) with good cards right out of the bat - it wasnt easy tho since this was perhaps the darkest era of this game with reno, pirates, dragons and of course jades; no standard package would beat those guys. So, un goro came and of course i still didn't had a good deck (used a mix of elementals and jades for shaman, wasnt too strong but because there were some kind of full interaction between my cards i wouldnt have any problem playing with it, in fact i started growing some liking to cards like kalimos; that card had so many different usages that i wish i could have an action figurine of him or a big poster XD), but with some dust and sacrificing out-of-the-meta legendaries i could craft jade druid, wich got stronger with frozen throne (although skullking geist and exodia mage were strong counters, at least i could outclass many wild decks that existed - and so wild format took the form we know now a days XD). luckly i had some good fortune with packs so i didn't have to craft many cards in order to have an 100% functional deck, specially a tier 1 btw. (just for the record: i had about 60 - 90 packs each expansion from there on) Right now i consider myself a F2P players (only had the 2 welcome bundle wich i got jaraaxus and malygos from) who only plays when im in the mood, yet who sits on a bank with 10k dust and 4,5k gold with a wealthy decklist (lacking warrior and mage decks). Certainly it took some time but now not only i can play wichever deck i want, i can also go for the ladder if i well desire!

[@jnpg1773]

Towards the end of an expansion i'll buy packs that are rotating out until I get 1 last legendary from each pack. That way I not only grind enough dust for the next expansion, but more importantly flesh out my wild cards without spending dust on them.

[@filippofani4368]

I use to save gold from day 1 of a new expansion untill next one. In this way i will have opened "my maximum number of pacs" from early day of the expansion

[@rutledge6375]

Right, right, I hear you, but... This next pack could contain a legendary

[@vincentle112]

Noah Gilchrist this is why I have never had more than 300 gold ever and I’ve played for about 2 years

[@kukaracha262]

@@vincentle112 did u get that legendary?

[@vincentle112]

Yeah I have gotten like 15

[@kiddo3833]

Ive played for 6

[@benhew2483]

Thanks for the video! Informative, as always. I spend money on the game, but I am always trying to be the most efficient with my money, so these guides are still very relevant. I found that how/when to buy packs is important but I think that a "dusting strategy" is also very important. I used to always dust extra cards immediately or "bad" legendaries only to find out later that they might get nerfed or become useful in fun or meta defining decks later. The two rules (for dusting) I've found the most helpful are: 1) almost never dust a legendary - cause you might open it again in a pack or it may become useful with a later expansion/shift in the meta and 2) don't dust extra cards until you REALLY need to craft something specific.

[@HearthstoneMathematics]

Thank you so much for opinion! :]

[@TopPotato109]

My strategy is spamming classic packs until I got a dissent collection than open each set in rotation until I open a legendary, after I get one I move to the next set

[@crustyschnozerwarlord7394]

David Belinsky same

[@kamilchulakov]

@@crustyschnozerwarlord7394 how do you have so much gold to do so?

[@crustyschnozerwarlord7394]

SlivKa I don’t really have a lot of gold I just complete at least a quest a day

[@alejandrom.]

7:37 it's more correct to say that they are erased from Standard, because the expansions are in wild since the realise, not only after the rotation.

[@HearthstoneMathematics]

You're right, thank you! :]

[@edumarquez]

My strategy is build a file in Excel with card's list (for Class, Rarity and Set) that I dont have, add my Dust and so I can calculate witch card need according Data Report or Top Decks or what Decks I can create, what is the most expensive Class or what cards is about rotate.

[@HearthstoneMathematics]

Wow, are you a bot like me? :]

[@abrakadaniel5908]

@@HearthstoneMathematics Haha, I do it too. But I think its called being a nerd. :]

[@zikochakala]

i don't disenchant cards only golden one's (in some cases i don't specialy if the card has a chance to be neurfed or rotate to the hall of fame ) i only disenchant neurfed cards this can make you a lot of dust , only work if u have already a great amount of dust

[@Hashishin13]

I don't think people appreciate the pity timer as much as they should. It only occurred to me recently that if your chances go up and up until they are guaranteed, whenever you are buying any type of pack and thinking of maybe switching to another you should probably wait until the next legendary if you can.

[@marcelomatos8771]

After a long time of frustration, a decided to collect all the cards of the game. Normal and gold. I found there is a lot to lose dusting cards. My strategy now is to dust only duplicates.

[@primiii]

I did your strategy before the videos,I'm a genius :)

[@HearthstoneMathematics]

Welcome to the club of rational players :]

[@dockychen7976]

This is a well made channel you made here

[@HearthstoneMathematics]

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[@DanteValentine16]

I just play 3 of the classes and dust the others. It helps me out.

[@zenjubo9884]

I can buy about 40 packs each expansion

[@magicggst]

erm so i have been playing for about half a year, and i have 1200 gold. Should i just spend that on classic packs? I was able to craft odd pally and mecha'thun druid so im probably not gonna have a fun time on the new release.

[@shenronsgoldfish]

I open packs till I get 4 legendaries total from the expansion then I save my gold up till the next expansion

[@mahomi2240]

I spare gold until an expension drops out and I spare “payback points” with theese I can buy an 20 to 30€ gift card so I put 20€ to it and I pre order

[@Harry777]

What's the track that you use at the end of your videos? Please respond ♥️

[@HearthstoneMathematics]

I have already been asked this question. But there is one problem... I really don’t know the name of this song... sorry :]

[@andrejmaslik1562]

Im spending all gold playing arena in average 5,7win per run :)

[@ronjohnson831]

Tile was a bit confusing

[@The_Ragman]

The rational strat is legit going into a standard reset.

[@flamingolols767]

im overly sentimental and dont like to disenchant cards even if i never use them.

[@brucewayne2956]

I have a golden Lorewalker Cho. It worths a free legendary but I never disenchanted it too.

[@LirikSnaps]

@@brucewayne2956 you could open it in a future pack if you disenchant it so I suggest you don't.

[@artemshkilov1815]

Hi. I am buster HS. 10$ to up rank 5 write me ds Artem#9037

[@bluepotato5208]

Artem I probably could. But that might be against the rules of the game or something

[@yuppityyup3402]

@@artemshkilov1815 hi i am yup hs 10$ to up rank 2 wriite me ds youmomslover#6969

[@boryanakasabova5184]

110 packs, 6 legendaries? Bhahaha. I get 3, guaranteed.

[@HearthstoneMathematics]

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[@paulrivieras9762]

And others get 9 so it still evens out ;)

[@jamesadd4566]

it is an average number you will get not guaranteed 6. I got 3 legendary with the new bundle pack include the guarantee one .

[@tobiaspause1775]

@@jamesadd4566 Soo i was lucky. Bought 19 packs and opened 3. Including the new one. Too 2 of them were´nt good ones, but the amount of legendarys this time was great. But i´ve seen it different too. Played nearly a yrear in the beginning bevore i opened Malygos as my first legend. That was in an VERY early state and shortly bevore the first dungeon (naxxramas) came out.

[@robertkurwica2377]

My record is 11 packs 3 legendaries 1epic (classic set luck xd)

[@rkindblom]

These 2 bots have replaced my 2 favourite machines - fridge and pc

[@HearthstoneMathematics]

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[@paulrivieras9762]

So this is where all the bots with random Numbers + Letters in Hearth stone come from!

[@plantpreyer2135]

Is holomancer a bot?

[@Klenner115]

I focus on 3 classes and only spend my resources on those, after crafting the essential cards future decks aren’t as expensive because most of the good cards see play in multiple decks, when opening packs I open until I have most of those clases 6 commons, and 6 rares plus a good amount of neutrals, everything else I just dust it and only craft epics and legendaries that I need

[@gw1265]

Yes it's only difficult to know what to craft.. Once you have crafted and collected the good cards (mostly neutral ones) you're gonna have a good collection and those cards actually stick around for a while especially classic that still has a lot of great cards.

[@briancooley8777]

What if you did this for the Druid class lmao

[@stompingpeak2043]

I do this for rogue, hunter, shaman, and pally. I have almost every card in these sets

[@gw1265]

@@briancooley8777 that's stupid to me but druid doesn't have the worst winrate the worst winrate are shaman then rogue then priest.

[@gw1265]

@@stompingpeak2043 I do this for Hunter Paladin Rogue

[@riccardoagnano2378]

I guess I'm a bot too then.. I have 5.2k gold right now

[@HearthstoneMathematics]

I greet you at the club of rational players. :]

[@jacket_7]

Me too... bot mode, I have 9.9K

[@NextMcHg]

@@jacket_7 i legit have 13000 Gold LOL i never buy packs nor play arena just save gold for new expansions

[@Jhrickgamer]

damn, i guess the most gold ive ever had at once was like 1400, that's cause i was saving to buy the blackrock adventure

[@t3chn0dr0n3]

10k gold, 20k dust (due to disenchanting all of my Wild cards). Every time a strong deck comes up, I have the dust to immediately craft it.

[@oom-3262]

Somehow I got my 5th golden legendary card. Golden one. Yes I am f2p. Yes I am proud of it.

[@zalanmarkus4939]

My first golden Legendary was that rogue minion from the classic sett who get's really big when comboed whit a crap tonn of cards (i don't really play rogue so i disenchandet it and crafted the shaman Quest ftom Un'goro) my second (and last at this point) was a golden Runespear. I'm free to play too

[@seanyourhero1765]

this is hands down the best hearthstone channel/content keep up the great work!!

[@JUNIORSUCRE97]

I'll back you up on that one.

[@arrowghost]

I got tons of wild cards. I mostly keep them is simple, though I don't play Wild, but expect some Adventures & Wild Tavern Brawls. For the new players, you can always find a best friend who would help you clear your quests, though it won't reward you with the 3-win 10 gold, unless if you can bear losses in many matches (you can play a few to reach Rank 20 for the goodies) when a best friend can help you from grinding painfully. This tip is meant for the Casual Players, not Ranked.

[@jamil5615]

Arena is the best mode of play by far

[@SelathTV]

My strategy: Arena.

[@theimmux3034]

I've been saving gold for the whole duration of an expansion since KotFT and it's working fantastically. I never invest money in classic packs, always all on a new expansion. I get my classic cards from the brawl packs and I have a very wealthy classic collection. I never play arena tho. I usually open 65-85 packs and I get most of the good cards and craft the cards I don't have and I need

[@someheree6362]

I make use of the rule that I don't spend any mental capacity on this game and go impulsive. But with your video strategy, my new default is conservative with a bank of gold, especially because of my extreme luck at the dustwoods (I scored gen, baku, shudderwock and hagata) and skipping dustakan rumble

[@quindecim6942]

I save all my gold between expansions and only open packs with gold on expansion day. i will also buy the pre order bundle. This makes it so that i have between 120 - 150 packs to open at that time and have most of the cards from that expansion and have enough dust to craft anything that looks interesting after a few weeks.

[@henrikbruening7806]

I'm arena player for a long time now. I can recommend to start playing arena. In the beginning you will be a little bit tilted and think you are wasting your gold. But after some time with some experience an arena run together with daily quests you will earn enough money to buy at the start of a new expansion a bunch of cards. Currently I am a wild player with a huge collection. And I am near to a f2p player. I only bought stuff like the welcome bundles, which are cheap and totaly worth in my opinion.

[@SaladDongs]

I have been playing arena for a while now but it seems to me there were only very few select periods where skill=wins in arena sadly :( do I suck? Or is arena sort of a diceroll again?

[@henrikbruening7806]

@@SaladDongs It's always a bit of coin flipping and dice rolling but most of the time you can at least about 3 wins if you are unlucky. But on the other side you get big rewards if you earn 7 or more wins. I think my average is about 5.5 wins.

[@arnoldasbucys7786]

Tell me how you learn to win on arena?

[@SaladDongs]

@@arnoldasbucys7786 A big part of it is installing heartharena overlay or watching kripparian a lot. Just take in as much information about each individual card and class and how they compare to eachother, that is sure to optimise your odds. Then there's just trial and error... and also luck. So, good luck to you!

[@henrikbruening7806]

@@arnoldasbucys7786 I'm not a big fan of using heartharena. Don't get me wrong, Heartharena is really good to build a good deck but I think as a good arena Player you have to know which is the best choice without a programm. Watching Kripp can help you more cause he explains a bit why he takes a card and his knowledge is really high. But you will get better in arena by just playing like a run per day. Arena is a gamemode with two important asspects. On one hand you have two build a deck. And on the other hand you have to play the deck. And the playing part is much more important than the picking part. In constructive you play every game about the same. You normaly know the cards of the opponents deck and what you have to play each turn. In Arena you need much better predicting and knowledge about the value of your cards.

[@thanoschalvatzis2953]

Dunno about y'all but I started playing HS like 4 months ago and I have earned like 13k dust (0 money spent). 70+ arena wins overall so Idk if I did smth differently

[@den20sa]

Don't disenchant cards right away. Wait for nerf or HoF patch. I remember during Giggling Inventor nerf, I got 9+ normal and 2 golden. I netted more than 2k dusts after the nerf.

[@micahjohnson817]

I open packs till I open a golden legendary from that set, currently over 200 packs into Rastikhan, still looking for a golden legendary

[@SirenSong13]

What happens when you inevitably get a golden legendary in the first pack and are left with only 5 cards from that set? XD

[@lorenadimilero8086]

Personally I don't even spend gold on packs. I just use it to play arena when I can. By making sure to complete my quests I'm always going up on gold. And because I can only spend it in arena, I can play unlimited arena, being at 10.000 gold. Also, i tend to stash packs that I win in brawls or arena, and I open them to reward myself for weekly goals. Maybe some people will say this takes the fun away, but why spend money on a game when you can not only play for free, but also use it to stimulate yourself to hit goals in real life? Those stupid things I hate, like going to the doctor, suddenly become better when I reward myself a pack for doing them. Soo.. why use hearthstone to play hearthstone and why not using it instead to make your whole life sweeter? Everytime I craft a legendary card with my limited arena resources i save some money to travel, and these little habits can really articulate and motivate you throught your sometimes boring routine.

[@vuonganh7607]

lorena dimilero Nice idea.

[@adeshb2150]

Didn’t know Warren Buffet plays hearthstone

[@lorenadimilero8086]

​@Retrogamer 420 i'm not super good, I'd say average. it's all about discipline, not about winning. arena, as all things, you can learn by playing it. i know what you mean, I used to lose most of my games when i started. just watched some streamers on twitch ang got a little bit better. you don't need to be a pro to average 4/5 wins. but beside that, if you hate arena as a format, or say you hate risking your gold in general, just login regularly to complete quests and play brawl. you can get a lot of enjoyment in hs without crafting cards. just by appreciating animations, crazy RNG, and stuff like that. sometimes i just randomly play whizzbang decks. and you know what i love more in hs? dungeon run. which is free. when i teach someone hs i let them play dungeon run. a good dungeon run with a beer is endless. infact, if you truly love the game as some streamers show (daneHS really knows how to have fun) sometimes even just watching trailers of new expansion can be a REAL THRILL. Arena of time? Best time EVER. Ultimately, don't blame arena: sometimes you can just get that crazy legendary from weaponized pinada which will make ur day :) , or maybe discover a death knight out of hallucination.. these things happens, and the better you get, the more strategy you get to see in arena ;) - i'm having lot of fun with priest and mass hysteria in arena at the present time, i get to play strategic games and win more than i lose. in the past i specced into warlock, with great results by drafting lifegain. always experiment

[@gugugugu3371]

i'd say the big problem with arena(i've been an arena player for a long time) is that it takes a LOT of time. If you don't spend money in hearthstone, you will spend tons of hours. And arena can be really frustrating sometimes :/

[@lorenadimilero8086]

@@gugugugu3371 hey, yeah i see what you mean. when I feel like there's no intersting deck i can draft. (right now priest with mass hysteria is fun if you pick it, it takes intersting choices). but not always there are cool playstyles. in this case i switch to some other game. i like pokemon battles on showdown, also free and very strategic. i still login everyday on hs thou, play brawl and complete quest so that i can continue to stash resources :)

[@den20sa]

I always start saving on day 1 of expansion. I've been doing this since Ungoro and I don't think I've ever accumulated 10k gold for the next expansion. Yes, I'm a casual player, but always complete the daily quest. Usually it amounts to 8k-9k ish gold when I'm saving from day 1.

[@arrowgunt]

90-110 packs every new expansion lol wtf

[@giuseppeserenelli2053]

It seems a huge number, but let's do the math. There are three expansions per year, so between two of them you roughly have 120 days of time in order to hoard gold. On average, daily quests will reward you with 60 gold each time, so 60x120=7200. Add some HS Events ( e.g. Feast of Winter Veil) and you'll get 500 more gold. Now you're at 7700 without even winning a single game. If 3 wins guarantee you 10 gold, let's suppose you win 6 games every day: that's 20x120=2400, so 7700+2400= 10100 without any incredible effort. Obviously, three will be periods when you'll play less, but also periods when you'll want to rank up. So, the greatest obstacle between most of the players and 90-110 packs is patience

[@JanKowalski-pe9lo]

@@giuseppeserenelli2053 Ouch... really... you need to play this game EVERY day? If i have to do something every day it means im addicted or forced. Neither is nice. Good Luck.

[@giuseppeserenelli2053]

@@JanKowalski-pe9lo well that's the difference between a casual player and a loyal player; however, you can't pretend to have the sources of the latter if you are the former

[@giuseppeserenelli2053]

@Joe Gott I just wrote how it is possible to buy so many packs: it's obvious that nobody will force you to spend your gold if if you think that the expansion isn't very good

[@JanKowalski-pe9lo]

@@giuseppeserenelli2053 Alright... addiction now is called loyality xD. That`s the good one...

[@theneighborskid.]

I think patience is the greatest challenge for all players, after so long(3months) I could only save up to a range of 1200~5000 gold(never got more than 6000gold), and still use up gold for dust to craft resources for wild legendaries(because the standard mode’s meta is getting more and more tedious)

[@Lemushki]

I always buy (when affordable) 110 packs per expansion (this time I am still missing 60 for Rastakhan). So you just confirmed I am not doing that bad there! Nice Then use my dust for past expansions or wild cards as I preffer buying the newer set everytime until I get all the rares from it

[@Lemushki]

Edit; and then a legendary

[@MineQuesterMax]

I usually collect 500 gold then buy 5 classic packs everytime and when a new expansion comes out I just preorder

[@alperbilgin7563]

Play wild and you don t have to think expansions ;)

[@marcandrepare1717]

Fuck big priest. Its just ruining wild. Its way to overpowered.

[@rafaelaires9604]

Since I saw your video on which expansion has the best cards, I'm now buying only Rumble cards (at least until I get another legendary, I have 3 already). I'm a completely f2p player and I spent the last 8 months buying only classic packs, but I'm still missing a lot of classic cards. I have now almost 10k of dust, which I am saving for the rotation. I apologize for any mistakes in this commentary, I'm a brazilian fan. Love your channel!!

[@ULFRAKI]

Rafael Aires - buying rumble is the same as buying witchwood and doomsday because they will rotate out together, might as well spend on the better expansions

[@Suika_Ibuki_The_Drunk_Oni]

I demand full art version of CHRIS!

[@Hhopes]

If you play like 20 ours you could craft a warlock zoo deck that could get you to legend your welcome f2p players

[@HearthstoneMathematics]

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[@LuvvM4tt]

Haven’t played the game in about 4-5 years just coming back 😭 only have one deck which I got for free which is big Druid with dragons.

[@marijanlulic5563]

I play everyday for a year now, got a good colection of the cards that are rotating out in april. Should I disenchant all of them or ? Just bad ones ?

[@RebelionDNA]

Same here, i got uther the ebon blado hero card and dont feel good about dusting it

[@akselhansen304]

Marijan Lulic id keep Them Wild is a lot of fun and getting very popular U could dust draft trash and other unplayable Wild cards But i will defnitly keep staple cards Like deathknights

[@pac111]

Only disenchant wild cards if you are 100% certain that you will never play wild. Wild is a lot of fun imo, so I keep most of the cards unless they are trash.

[@giornogiovanna1116]

Trust me, sooner or later. You will want to play wild. Dont disenchant them

[@SlawomirC]

In Wild i only left warlock, mage and priest cards. Rest i change to dust for next expanaions

[@nikonid0]

Few tips from a player since 2013. - I'm keeping all my useful golden cards, disenchant the others which are weak. - Cancel a quest per day! You can have a better quest by changing a 50 gold quest to a 60-80 and sometimes 100. It's not much (but it's honest work), but it makes the difference in the long run. - Do arenas! watch good players like Kripp. You will know which cards are good to draft and counters. You can use Heartharena to help you draft a good deck. And also, you need just to win 3-4 games to have a bonus dust (small) and sometimes 40-50 gold. You will anyway spend this money on a pack and in bonus you will have more knowledge on arena to improve for the next time. The best is to reach 7 wins to win a pack + 150 gold which is OP. - Keep tracking the number of packs you have purchased for each extension. We say that you get a legendary each 40 packs right? You will have an idea if it's worth continuing to spend ressource on an extension. i.e.: if you have 23 packs open you may consider keeping your gold for the next extension or spending on classic set. If you have 39 open packs until now, you might try to buy few more to see if you get a legendary!

[@srdjanruzic]

I never play wild and i never ever tried to play it so i always disenchant all cards that go to wild and also i craft all hall of fame cards for a profit!

[@polarbearoughey]

Great video as always, but here's a couple things I want to bring up: I don't think it's clear enough when you say "ignore one expansion" that you mean "refrain from buying packs with gold for one expansion," I understood it that way, but others may not. Also, experienced players (and players who want to get better) can always play Arena as part of your rational strategy during the short period between the release of a new set and the meta report. This works because Arena only gives packs from the latest set and you start accumulating resources immediately (or learn more about the game at the cost of gold). The only downside is the time it takes to do an Arena run every day.

[@HearthstoneMathematics]

Thank you so much for opinion! :]

[@TrailersYT]

I heard you have to buy packs 1 by 1 untill you get a legendary and then you have to switch to another expension, is this still the best thing to do?

[@imik_plays]

So good to see you again bruh!

[@HearthstoneMathematics]

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[@pikmints]

They mentioned disenchanting cards that get nerfed for full dust value, but they didn't mention saving some dust for possible Hall of Fame announcements. I have enough dust saved up now to craft a golden legendary + some other cards should I need to craft cards for the Hall of Fame. Blizzard refunds you the full dust of any card they send to the Hall of Fame from your collection, making these cards essentially free to craft as long as you do so before they are officially sent out.

[@ClanAtlas_Indie_Games]

A trick that works well for me, instead of disenchanting cards right away, "pretend" they are already disenchanted but leave them in your collection. Then, when you are absolutely sure you want to create a specific deck, disenchant the necessary cards so you can craft the rest of the cards in your deck all at the same time.

[@neto5666]

I have a strategy of stockpiling cards, not dust. You see, some cards are going to get nerfed sometime, and that way you can just have a copy or even a golden copy of that card that is going to be nerfed, that way you can gain way more arcane dust than stockpiling your dust.

[@PYREABLE]

I usualy preorder then spend the entire expansion buying packs while trying to keep my dust expenses at minimum, then when a new expansion drops, just preorder and craft the few cards I want to play with the pile of dust I saved, then repeat

[@TheCoastalRipper]

A f2p guide which isn't one, since many tips are not directed to f2players. Basically the message of this video is: HS is p2w in its highest form, you want to have fun? Pay. Without money, you will not hardly, you will NEVER collect the entire collection. 50% of players are f2p? Don't make me laugh, people who spent money in the past but do not currently obviously do not count. Got the welcome bundle? Doesn't count. (True) f2player here, being on board since the beginning, having never disenchanted any non-surplus cards, hoarding 3,7k (normally 5k) gold and 14k dust and being never lucky at pack opening and arena.

[@BetterLife23-y7x]

I'm a filthy "credit card" strategist because I'm not a very patient man. I've got about 2-3 meta decks and other two "fun" decks, Tesspionage and Deathrattle Rogue. Buut starting this March I will save gold for the new expansion for an extra ~20 packs, but I'll still buy the preorder. MUH LEGENDARIES.

[@DJarr216]

I know this is a F2P guide, but still, one thing you didn't mention in this video are the special bundles that blizzard sells for a limited time (like the recent new lunar year bundle). When buying packs, the regular 60 pack bundles give you the most packs per $, €, £, ... but these special bundles are even better value. The 60 packs bundle costs me 69.99€, so that's 1,17€/pack The recent new lunar year bundle was 19.99€ for 10 witchwood, 10 boomsday and 10 rastakhan packs, so that's 0.67€/pack That's a huge difference in terms of value. And with the new e-sports bundles announced to support hearthstone e-sports I imagine better value bundles will arrive more frequent. A more patient credit card strategy, one where you only pay for pre-order and limited time offer bundles, can reduce that price of 985$ you listed by a lot. I started during ungoro as a free to play player, but due to lack of a good card collection I lost interest and stopped playing hearthstone for a while, missing the last month or so of Ungoro, the entire time of Knights of the frozen throne and about 2 months of Kobolds and catacombs. And now after allmost a year of playing and paying only for pre-orders and special bundles (during the year of the raven), I can say my collection is about the size of a free to play player that bought 110 packs of each set with gold. I've spend about 300-350€ on this game spread across a year, which is way less then the 985$ mentioned to get about the same collection immediatly.

[@narakjangeieijingna9251]

Best game!!! I love hearthstone bring my money 💰 💰

[@hansgeorg718]

I started saving gold later this time so "only" 3,5 k gold so far. But i have over 50k dust saved over the years so im fine:)

[@dementedwombat8514]

hans georg yea I did the big preorder for the first time as I am semi new but I’m gonna save up gold over this expansion

[@netawa]

Welp.... From the start I just got around 5 packs and just disenchanted them to get some dust. Then I've created mid level elemental shaman and played ladder some time. There was no legendary cards in this deck but somehow I managed to be on 11 rank almost each season. Then I used my new resources and played arena some time. (Of course with checking some guides beforehand) Combining Arena and ladder for now is a simple way to constantly get resources.... And as a result I ended up crafting evolve shaman and enjoying wild ladder. Sometimes I play arena, but well.... Now I can just get resources.

[@MajorNyberg]

You shouldn't spend a dime on expansion packs or pre-orders, unless you want Blizzard to keep these extremely ridiculous prices forever. People in general don't seem to understand that they put the prices and not the company. Something like 15 euro to get ALL cards from the latest expansion or at least all the common/rare cards would be reasonable deal, not 70 euro to get maybe 1/3 of the cards you need, 70 euro is something I would perhaps spend to get ALL previous expansions cards.

[@Hongsta]

86500 gold and 109000 dust here i dont pay for packs and i get em free LUL infinite arena player with 200 friends on my friends list easiest f2p game ever lol easy 80 gold challenges all the time i average 1k gold per week just on dailies and 80 gold challengez cuz i get so much,......including arena farming im way over 1k+ a week ez game ez life I never disenchanted stuff i had 27 copies of leeching poison that got nerfed and got full dust values hahahaha same with every other cards... I never disenchant spares i have 47 copies of tar lord and i keep em hahaha but when it gets nerfed i get 2-4k dust cuz i have over 10 plus copies of most of those cards easy esspecially classic cards like mana worm and cold blood i had like 20 plus copies and multiple golden copies.... The dust refunds were insane i just laughed these management tips gets me pretty much full sets and many golden cards lol they my pretties and my bling for arena i never disenchant those

[@TheJarlekin]

I see it this way: My time is worth a lot of money, so I don't mind spending a few hundred bucks to save myself from a thousand hours of tilting grind. Then, I can spend more time having fun IRL and just go directly to building the deck I want immediately every expansion. With that said, I am still the rational type, so I will do quests and events and save up the gold and dust for new expansions. I did consider doing Arena and getting good at it. I know I can. The thing is, even that would take thousands and thousands of hours to get a good collection and it's just not worth the time IMO.

[@luqmanulhakiem3014]

F2P player here. Ill keep my gold when they tease about new expansion. They usually reward us with few packs as a kick-start. Then i ll spend my gold to buy more as to comply with the 10 packs guarantee. Leftovers gold will be used once the meta is stable to pick the best set to be purchased. Completing quest everyday grant me a pack a day, sometimes a pack in 2 days. Depends.

[@sirhawkjames]

Since the achievements and stuff rolled out you can't do your quests in the tavern brawl so for classes that I don't have decks for I've been using auto-complete and they get wins in high plat, low diamond, around 40% winrate. They're not bad

[@Raucher15]

get free dust from hall of fame cards: 1. craft them (golden) when announced 2. when they rotate you get your dust back (and keep the card unlike for nerfed cards, where you only get dust if you disenchant them) 3. now you can disenchant them for EXTRA dust

[@Csaszarcsaba1]

I didnt get that lucky with rastakan opening, but no problem it wasnt that impactful anyways. I kept buying raatakan packs for like a month, and got a golden bwonsomdi, and since its not really good I disenchanted it and crafted maly.I started saving up gold way earlier that I used to, and now I have 3000 gold. Oh Im f2p btw.

[@zookoh1595]

God I'm a freak of nature I literally dust every card even common ones and just buy cards for two top tier decks and then usually have cheap decks like spell druid on the side. This hurts me so hard on new expansions where I basically dust the 3 decks I had and craft one new deck. Probably going to start my collection after realizing how much I've wasted

[@gamerindependente]

I used to be the impulsive type. Then i tried Arena (and failed miserably). Now i'm trying to be more rational and save resources to buy packs during the release of an expansion.

[@nicklasparbstsrensen4294]

I have played f2p on and off for years, but am now focusing on classic packs and core legendaries to improve my base. I am not sure I have the patience for the rational strategy, but I do see the value of it. Perhaps if the next expansion sucks...

[@selfactualizer2099]

Why does it have to be f2p vs/or p2p? Its a card game you can fucking treat yourself, Buy an adventure and save yourself like 4 months of work. Its not that expensive. theres no reason you have to dedicate to never ever spend money

[@godbelow]

lol very expensive, are you all running paper routes or something? What are we talking $100 an ENTIRE YEAR?

[@josh7876]

A great eye-opener to everyone. Thanks for the stats HS Math! I created a forum thread. These vids of yours about are very same with my experience. I hope Hearthstone will hear us. us.battle.net/forums/en/hearthstone/topic/20771037300?page=1#post-2

[@windblownleaf6450]

'only' $985... i hope that was sarcasm

[@HearthstoneMathematics]

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[@Creationweek]

Big tip don't dust extra cards unless u absolutely need to to make a craft and never use the dust all button. When u do dust cards prioritize dusting the extras of crap cards that don't see play especially from older expansions this way u maximize your chances of getting full dust from nerfs. I had 8 copies of emerald spell stone for 800 dust after the last nerf

[@hentikirby7142]

Yeah I make like 10 accounts and use the cards that i get from packs to make whatever deck. ALso for anyone that doesnt know. If u login with a mobile device like apple or samsung u can get 3 packs and a card back

[@cadlyn]

i normally buy the new packs (with gold) for the first two months, then after that i stock pile my gold for the next set. If money is available i'll pre-order but if not then no worries

[@ikpc2195]

Back at it again with an awesome vid

[@hectorjimenez1839]

i dont know if it is efficient to do it but i do my daily quests and as soon as i get 100 gold i buy a classic pack, the copies i get i dust them, i have like 9000 dust and i will pre order the next expansion, after that i just craft the necessary cards after the meta settles down . what do you think? what type of strategy is that? is it optimal?

[@dcon1891]

Hearthstone isn't an expensive card game, it's an expensive video game.

[@cheetahhunter1493]

i have a question..... should i craft all the class classic legendaris first or just just buy pack and wait till i open them? i think crafting them is more convenient cause there are way too many classic legmdaris and its a lower chance to open a good one let alone a class one. so what do you think sould i use my dust that i get from the expantionsto craft these legendaries or use them for the expantion's legendaries?

[@VirPhantom]

Not sure if I'm the only one to do this. Since hearthstone is free to play, it's foolish to get all the good cards for every class. So I chose 3 classes that I dislike and disenchant every card I get for them. That way I can send the dust into the other classes/decks.

[@lostblu-e3596]

j'ai réparti mon argent sur différent deck afin d'avoir le plus de carte possible même si elles sont pas rare. maintenant je peut stocker ! je peut jouer mes decks mais il me manque certaine carte pour les rendres mieux Google Translation ; I spread my money on different deck to have the most card possible even if they are not rare. now I can store! I can play my decks but I miss some card to make them better.

[@ThePaull3d]

Should I buy up to 10 packs of the rotating expansions to get at least one legendary out of them? Is it worth it for the dust or just buy classic packs?

[@lucashurpia7474]

i have a question: why it is advised to not craft cards from expansions that are going to rotate out(or even buy packs)? are we not going to receive the full dust cost from these sets anyway?

[@argumentumadhominem3977]

save some dust for potental HoF cards. you can keep them and recieve dust without dusting them and extra dust if you wanna dust them. If you spend money try to use amazon coins to save money.

[@cacecarlos]

I use credit from Google opinion rewards to buy entries to the arena!

[@יותםברנתן]

I play mostly arena like 90% and usually get more then 7 wins so if you know how to draft arena it's much better then any other way to get your resources

[@soorian6493]

Thanks guys, I'll heed this advice. Maybe. I don't have an addiction, you have an addiction.

[@robertkurwica2377]

Collecting up to 100 pack and opening :pp mostly classic cuz i always get lucky on this set...

[@ZapWo]

Realy love these informative videos!

[@HearthstoneMathematics]

Thanks:]

[@HiImFred]

i collected gold during rumble this expansion felt so bad no real meta chane

[@MrAskmannen]

Play control paladin in wild, it will never stop being viable. And you can collect all the standard shit while doing it

[@ekzarcunkotov1026]

i buy packs from an expansion until i get a legendary from that set then move to the next set and repeat once i get from most recent to most old and get a legendary of the most old set i repeat the process all over again

[@pohenixwielki3178]

Have you posted the pack experiment video or its not out jet?

[@HearthstoneMathematics]

I will talk about the results soon. Thanks for remembering. :]