Hearthstone: The Meta Cure? (Warlock Standard)

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Trump

Trump

Күн бұрын

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@SuperSymn
@SuperSymn 8 жыл бұрын
"we are gonna play a lot of this deck" Trump reaches ultimate despair after 3 games.
@americanexistentialist4756
@americanexistentialist4756 8 жыл бұрын
5 games, they cut the two where he was overrun by zoo also kappa. Everything in that beginning rant is spot on.
@Roiben100
@Roiben100 8 жыл бұрын
Thats why I changed games.
@all_time_Jelly_Fish
@all_time_Jelly_Fish 8 жыл бұрын
Roiben100 come back and play Agro freeze Mage! It should be the next video. Redemption is here
@Roiben100
@Roiben100 8 жыл бұрын
How about I dont come back because Blizzard abandoned this game and doesnt really care about the balance, they care about it being fun so people buy more packs.
@IgorMartinsSpecail
@IgorMartinsSpecail 8 жыл бұрын
hey sounds alot like cipsoft and artix entertainment lol I guess gaming companies are all going like that
@PilsnerGrip
@PilsnerGrip 8 жыл бұрын
game: Hey Trump, here's two Nozdormu! Trump *hisses and covers himself with a cape upon seeing his great weakness*
@rinmathews9337
@rinmathews9337 8 жыл бұрын
"What I heard is a lot of whining" - Goes on to get a 33% win rate, validating the complaints.
@SkyreeXScalabar
@SkyreeXScalabar 8 жыл бұрын
But that's ropecoach's weakness
@ferdinandgeronimo5467
@ferdinandgeronimo5467 8 жыл бұрын
Fake Grohl , nK L,
@Fligyn
@Fligyn 8 жыл бұрын
he said the whining was justified
@CheesyCheeser18
@CheesyCheeser18 8 жыл бұрын
That first game was incredibly well played, shows that skill does exist to some degree in hearthstone contrary to popular belief imo
@Runexn
@Runexn 8 жыл бұрын
yeah you just have to not put any tuskars or yoggs in either deck shocker
@MehmetTurk21
@MehmetTurk21 8 жыл бұрын
I think it's time. It's time Trump start cleaning his glasses again. The meta demands it.
@TheGroenne
@TheGroenne 8 жыл бұрын
Trump you are my favorite youtuber, and I always love it when a new video comes from you :) (also props to Jens). Please never stop playing Hearthstone, you're my #1 inspiration!
@FellTheSky
@FellTheSky 8 жыл бұрын
I agree with everything said at the beginning. Its a shame because heartstone's flavor is unmatched by any other card game. Too bad that valve doesnt want to create its own card game, with more focus on competitive game (as cs go or dota2), i have no choice but to create "fun" decks and being crushed by shamans and other top tier decks, or download duelyst and play a game that i think it looks like shit but my nerdy friend says its a marvelous piece of pixel art .
@Duskblade25
@Duskblade25 8 жыл бұрын
Duelyst is a fun game, but its just that not everyone likes it art style. If they could have an option to choose between the pixel and another more slick art design more people would play it.
@ainoakeisari
@ainoakeisari 8 жыл бұрын
Hey wanna 1v1 in HS? it's fun! EU?
@dragohammer6937
@dragohammer6937 8 жыл бұрын
do you know faeria?
@Gakusangi
@Gakusangi 8 жыл бұрын
Oh hey, thanks! I love the sprite style of Duelyst, I'll have to check it out XD
@birdlover143
@birdlover143 8 жыл бұрын
I'm highly upset that the art style matters that much to you.
@berri2692
@berri2692 8 жыл бұрын
Is that Reno hiding in the back of the thumbnail?
@blushydanny8765
@blushydanny8765 8 жыл бұрын
its a demon reno.indeed he is hiding
@vaalesha2278
@vaalesha2278 8 жыл бұрын
It's a succubus with Reno's face photoshopped on top.
@rinmathews9337
@rinmathews9337 8 жыл бұрын
"What I heard is a lot of whining" - Goes on to get a 33% win rate, validating the complaints.
@Avossk
@Avossk 8 жыл бұрын
You can be correct while still being whiny at the same time
@LetumComplexo
@LetumComplexo 8 жыл бұрын
He admitted the whining was valid both at the beginning and the end of the video. What's your point?
@aaronh248
@aaronh248 8 жыл бұрын
So far Dragon Pally has done pretty well against Shaman. Aldors to control the 7/7. Minion presence can battle for board. Concentration to control totems and small minions and mid level bigger minions to battle its big minions.
@adambennett483
@adambennett483 8 жыл бұрын
lol concentration is what trump needs
@Bondega456
@Bondega456 8 жыл бұрын
Concentration. Lul. I too must concentrate on controlling totems. But I also Consecration to do the same thing too :P
@NoUnboundFreedom
@NoUnboundFreedom 8 жыл бұрын
Concentration? The 4 mana 7/7 that isn't being played?
@aaronh248
@aaronh248 8 жыл бұрын
lol, autocorrect loves the consecration
@nikowardenski8044
@nikowardenski8044 8 жыл бұрын
Master of evolution is the bigger problem
@lequinow
@lequinow 8 жыл бұрын
Nobody is getting the big picture here. When you complain about not being able to play "fun" decks, well the deck you're trying to play isn't fun itself if it doesn't provides the actual fun you're expecting. - Don't try to play control if you can't stand the fact that you'll lose in 4 minutes or win in 15. - Don't try to play aggro decks if you can't stand the high variance that may bring you amazing win streaks or soul crushing losing ones. - Don't play combo if you can't stand the rock-paper-scizor aspect of it. - Don't play midrange if you're too lazy to make meta calls on a day to day basis. What's amazing about Trump is that, while he sometimes have suboptimal plays, he has an incredible understanding of those concepts and always manage to find the fun in the game, winning or losing.
@yugi4671
@yugi4671 8 жыл бұрын
the hearthstone meta is so fast that it puts sonic the hedgehog to shame
@alexgomez1621
@alexgomez1621 8 жыл бұрын
It's funny how shame sounds very closely like shaman.
@boilingoil11
@boilingoil11 8 жыл бұрын
you must have forgotten about pre-Gods aggro hunters :v
@boyhowdy856
@boyhowdy856 8 жыл бұрын
In a world full of salty despair, it's at least nice to see some optimism. Even if it IS short lived...
@OfficialOlue
@OfficialOlue 8 жыл бұрын
21:17 lissed methal
@vaalesha2278
@vaalesha2278 8 жыл бұрын
!lathel dessiM
@morganharrison1136
@morganharrison1136 8 жыл бұрын
Missed Lehtal?
@lyuris277
@lyuris277 8 жыл бұрын
Dissed Hethal.
@AlekSchultz
@AlekSchultz 8 жыл бұрын
*extended BM
@TheCoastalRipper
@TheCoastalRipper 8 жыл бұрын
licked metal.
@StygianLightning
@StygianLightning 8 жыл бұрын
Tonight, a tale of terrible tragedy.
@oussamaokbi
@oussamaokbi 8 жыл бұрын
"8+8=14" Trump 2016
@arthuralpaca
@arthuralpaca 8 жыл бұрын
The NY Administration University LOL
@Yaishto
@Yaishto 8 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the note about the cut zoo game. No deck is perfect and knowing that there are scenarios in which certain decks can beat others is very good knowledge. I do wonder why the game wasn't just included in this video unless it would have made this video too long.
@rinmathews9337
@rinmathews9337 8 жыл бұрын
"What I heard is a lot of whining" - Goes on to get a 33% win rate, validating the complaints.
@EACru2002
@EACru2002 8 жыл бұрын
Honestly I love when streamers say stuff like that, only for it to blow up in their faces.
@SadBirbHours
@SadBirbHours 8 жыл бұрын
Dr Boom will be too slow for the meta.
@rinmathews9337
@rinmathews9337 8 жыл бұрын
Christopher Kendall Lol. Trump is the master of the meta.
@LiquidToss
@LiquidToss 8 жыл бұрын
After some very extensive play time in this meta I fully understand where the frustration of this post come from but I believe the answer is alot more simple then anyone realizes. Dragon warrior counters all Tier 1 decks out there quite adequately. It has enough early game to keep up with all the hyper aggressive decks and has a quite nasty late game with card like Grom and Ragnaros. Not to mention it comes with the full package of warrior answers such as Goul, slam, execute, blood to icore and Fiery war axe. I started laddering from Rank 18 and reached Rank 4 in about 8 hours of play time while maintaing a 78% win rate
@theparagonal
@theparagonal 8 жыл бұрын
Dragon Warrior is part of the problem.
@samdang9503
@samdang9503 8 жыл бұрын
Dragon warrior is right behind shaman in the cancer level
@LiquidToss
@LiquidToss 8 жыл бұрын
But you have to agree its far less frustrating to go up against a dragon warrior rather then a hyper aggressive shaman that doesn't know any other word but "Smork"
@klxroly1
@klxroly1 8 жыл бұрын
hey trump did you ever made a ANUB'ARAK! deck? It's legendary spider minion from rogue class and I have experienced that it's very good against control warriors since it can constantly come back on the field. Though be warned for the 4 mana silence minion when facing standard reno decks. only way to kill it
@CheesyCheeser18
@CheesyCheeser18 8 жыл бұрын
I always feared this would happen with Shaman, and now I fear it'll happen with Priest too. Bad for so long, broken cards just printed and shoved into the class, eventually absurdly strong.
@Kavriel
@Kavriel 8 жыл бұрын
Priest won't be aggro, thus priest won't be OP. Unless extremely OP card are printed, but i doubt they go power-creeping like that.
@nujumkey
@nujumkey 8 жыл бұрын
you say that now, but if priest got like, 6 mana take enemies board or something siddenly they would be top tier. It seems tempo cards that create huge turn swings like old undertaker and patron are the ones that break the meta. That's why molten giant was nerfed. Blizzard was scared of huge turn swings.
@harrysingh2176
@harrysingh2176 8 жыл бұрын
pfft, priest won't be agro. Mind blast, embrace the shadow, shadow bomber, spawn of shadows wild incoming meta.
@nje333
@nje333 8 жыл бұрын
a lot of priest cards are just flat out annoying for example entomb and shadow word death
@likeClockwork7
@likeClockwork7 8 жыл бұрын
Hard removal is "flat out annoying"? Seems like a pretty core part of any card game
@iMac9991
@iMac9991 8 жыл бұрын
"Trump looks like a prison bully" dead lmaooo
@penoyer79
@penoyer79 8 жыл бұрын
loved watching that Totem Shaman just get absolutely dismantled
@cluelesspug1
@cluelesspug1 8 жыл бұрын
"If you can't compete with Shaman early game, you lose" Plays Renolock........
@doifhg
@doifhg 8 жыл бұрын
i wonder where that ocean went, all that's left is salt
@clamismagic
@clamismagic 8 жыл бұрын
"my conclusion: play midrange shaman" -trump HAHAHA
@IndiePickleball
@IndiePickleball 8 жыл бұрын
It sounds bad in the top tier. Good think I'm rank 25
@navypukevomit
@navypukevomit 8 жыл бұрын
While shaman is annoying and numerous, it isn't as bad as people make out. At rank three I still see things like dragon priest, freeze mage, and aggro warrior.
@clash-talesfromsparta3167
@clash-talesfromsparta3167 8 жыл бұрын
Yeah. I played a Pirate Warrior from Rank 4 to Legend this season, going 61-41. 17-12 against Shaman. (Control and Dragon Warrior were the worst matchups at 7-13 combined).
@DragonPanda4
@DragonPanda4 8 жыл бұрын
Haha fuck off its terrible
@clash-talesfromsparta3167
@clash-talesfromsparta3167 8 жыл бұрын
If you mean Pirate Warrior is terrible, well, works for me. I'm not saying its the best thing out there, but built well it counters current shaman builds pretty well, dominates zoo & hunter, and games are short so it's good for climbing the ladder fast or collecting gold. If you mean it's terrible that Shaman are so OP, there's always going to be a strongest deck out there. It's not like they're undefeatable. Personally I'd like to see a nerf to Tuskarr Totemic though, when it pulls Totem Golem it's just sick and flametongue/manatide can be pretty ridiculous too.
@isaacnorris3432
@isaacnorris3432 8 жыл бұрын
Clash - Tales From Sparta mate, you have your nerf now
@DiegoMartinez-pz3ro
@DiegoMartinez-pz3ro 8 жыл бұрын
The cycle of Hearthstone whining is to blame for the state of Shaman, in two expansions I guarantee Priest will be the new Shaman and of course we will be seeing Reddit posts about how Blizzard sucks because Priest is too powerful.
@Makyura43
@Makyura43 8 жыл бұрын
Blizzard sucking balls at balancing is to blame for the state of the game. Also their refusal to nerf/buff cards after mistake has definitely been made. Juggler 2/2 nerf is fantastic example. After 2 fucking years they finally did what any sane person would do after 2 days. Sadly when blizzard nerfs cards its usually to oblivion , juggler being the rare example. When creating cards for HS fuck ups are bound to happen. After all only small number of people is doing the play testing and sure they are going to miss on things. Such as Mysterious Challenger or Dr. Balanced or Shredder or Yogg. But their philosophy of creating cards whose power level is clearly hands and shoulders above rest to push specific arch-type or a class and than if that seems to be broken fuck it it will go away 1-2 years from now is really what is killing this game.
@TheAssOfEternity
@TheAssOfEternity 8 жыл бұрын
Reddit can fuck off, honestly.
@DrilRemover
@DrilRemover 8 жыл бұрын
UmbraKnight lmao leddit
@EACru2002
@EACru2002 8 жыл бұрын
It's not the idea of a certain underpowered class becoming overpowered that's the issue. It's the WAY Blizzard chooses to implement buffing a class, which is to do it the only way they know how, to make it a scummy ass deck. They've shown through the years they are incapable of creating a highly competitive Control deck. C'thun was their attempt and while it had a couple weeks in the spotlight, it's faded in the background as people realized, "Oh yeah, these scummy decks are actually pretty strong!" People aren't angry by the simple fact that Shaman is strong, but the fact HOW Blizzard chose to make them strong.
@lmao_nope
@lmao_nope 8 жыл бұрын
I honestly can not imagine the world-shaking storm those two expansions would have to create to make Priest competitive, much less overpowered.
@1finchgreen
@1finchgreen 8 жыл бұрын
at 24:26 why was the imp frozen it was not damaged by blizzard
@DarkwingDuc
@DarkwingDuc 8 жыл бұрын
read what Blizzard does
@NoUnboundFreedom
@NoUnboundFreedom 8 жыл бұрын
I don't think this is the way it should work, but I think the way it does work is that the damage and freeze are two separate consecutive events, where the damage happens, causing the imp gang boss to summon an imp, and then the freeze effect, which includes the imp
@RXsmok
@RXsmok 8 жыл бұрын
it's how it should work actually. Damage (there all stuff that happens when minions are damaged) after state of being damaged: freeze all enemies in this order order.
@xcbzxv194
@xcbzxv194 8 жыл бұрын
It's how they coded it. For the text to accurately describe this it should say "deal 2 damage to all enemy minions, then freeze all enemy minions".
@FrozenLemur
@FrozenLemur 8 жыл бұрын
Is there any chance we'll see handlock again? I loved watching you play that.
@dorksied
@dorksied 8 жыл бұрын
I built something very similar to this deck about 2 weeks ago, and it is very very strong vs the current meta.
@aichliss
@aichliss 8 жыл бұрын
I've actually been playing a deck similar to this for the last while... It's surprisingly effective against everything EXCEPT other reno or warlock matchups
@wormsblink2887
@wormsblink2887 8 жыл бұрын
I remember the days when shaman was a joke with their hero power and priest was actually good since there were no sticky/4attack minions. Hearthstone has come a long way since then
@Aubrew
@Aubrew 8 жыл бұрын
21:12 You missed lethal Trump. Opponent has 16 health. Hellfire (3) ' Bookwyrm (3) Leeroy jenkins (6) Power overwhelming (4) 16 damage in total (exactly lethal)
@David-wy3dt
@David-wy3dt 8 жыл бұрын
trump, i think this deck might be not the cure but maybe the counter to a lot of things. the point is that 80% probaly doesn't have all those legends. They can craft a midrange shaman or midrange hunter deck if they played a amount of time (month or something). if you want to play this deck, you have to play 1-3 years, depending on how good you are. OR you can spend money on the game, but that is not what the most players want. you came up with a great idea, but only 20% of all the players can use it...
@David-wy3dt
@David-wy3dt 8 жыл бұрын
if you give like a budget deck (midrange hunter-shaman cost) for newer players, they can play that..
@Kavriel
@Kavriel 8 жыл бұрын
Reno is very good, demonist's board clears and also very good, however you can't reliably draw your board clears in a reno deck, thus, you're heavily reliant on either draws to reduce the impact of rng( but the meta doesn't allow it) and getting to those cards, or a very early game oriented deck, kind of a zoo reno, to try and compete reliably during the early game. Bottom line is, it's not very reliable. A demonist deck with multiple versions of the board clears would probably do well against shaman and minion based decks, but terribly against tempo mage, since healing in HS is incredibly expensive, even though the effect is very weak. Thanks Blizzard, for an aggro-ridden meta since 2014. And by thx i mean i my dick.
@NomadEliteDC
@NomadEliteDC 8 жыл бұрын
Can you post overall statistics of this deck?
@tacky187
@tacky187 8 жыл бұрын
Yes, we are squarely in Shamanstone (although, I find Maly Druid more frustrating in this meta), but this meta is still not as bad as Undertaker Hunter or Secret Paladin, or even Patron Warrior. That said, Shaman did NOT need yet another strong card with Spirit Claws. FeelsBadMan
@Begeru
@Begeru 8 жыл бұрын
Yeah they get Spirit Claws AND Malestrom Portal. Like one of those cards for them was more than good enough.
@DeityBladeGaming
@DeityBladeGaming 8 жыл бұрын
this meta is better than Undertaker but it's worse than Secret Paladin. there were many viable decks during Secret paladins Era. Patron Era wasn't even bad, it was only oppressive to high legend which is like 0.01% of players. Blizzard said patron had a poor winrate on general ladder
@shattered7579
@shattered7579 8 жыл бұрын
i love how in the secret paladin meta, midrange druid was actually the best deck
@DeityBladeGaming
@DeityBladeGaming 8 жыл бұрын
Rock Golem Not even that they were stupid- its just a deck that required a ton of practice. for 99% of ladder, it was not oppressive
@natehicks8000
@natehicks8000 8 жыл бұрын
I know Blizzard doesn't want to nerf cards anymore because of standard rotation being a thing, But I would prefer if I didn't have to wait until 2018 to start having fun again.
@user-zg3gh8xg9v
@user-zg3gh8xg9v 8 жыл бұрын
Fun can wait. Take this time to improve your love life.
@natehicks8000
@natehicks8000 8 жыл бұрын
wwwggxcom what is this "life" you speak of?
@MasterLapin
@MasterLapin 8 жыл бұрын
I've found much success against Shaman playing OTK Murloc Paladin with two Forbidden Healings
@NikozBG
@NikozBG 8 жыл бұрын
Yep and u lose badly against hunter and mage and u are not even favourable against warrior. That's where the meta is right now - No tier 2 deck is favourable against more than one tier 1 deck.
@mngbb11
@mngbb11 8 жыл бұрын
Every expansion is meant to fix the game and bring around a control meta, and we fall for it every time. Surely we must be close to saying enough is enough?
@Bhorius
@Bhorius 8 жыл бұрын
Has Trump ever played any MOBA game? Just want to hear him chant "despair" over&cover again
@liamoleary80
@liamoleary80 8 жыл бұрын
When is the Shaman Gold portrait going to get faded like Hunters was? Oh wait, did we forget that it was once Hunter that everyone hated for the same reasons. It will be another class in the hate box soon, might as well fade all the portraits now.
@dpalmerama
@dpalmerama 8 жыл бұрын
Yup this current meta is ridiculous. Blizzard nerfed decks that required a certain combo but were still able to be countered. Yet face shaman hunter & zoo have just gotten more & more ridiculous. They nerfed the warsong commander because it "wasn't fun to play against" but has done nothing to help against all the aggro decks. Plus with the next round of standard coming pretty much every control deck (especially warrior) is going to be destroyed with all the cards being cycled out.
@Appi94
@Appi94 8 жыл бұрын
Does exist another archetype for Warlock instead of the usual Zoo, Reno or Handlock?
@lynkkx
@lynkkx 8 жыл бұрын
ever since I have teched in mc tech I have stolen alot of games from shamans, control shaman seems pretty good vs the top tier shamans as well
@shattered7579
@shattered7579 8 жыл бұрын
i have no clue why that card completely disappeared from play...
@AnimeVampire234
@AnimeVampire234 8 жыл бұрын
i want to see the return of handlock!!! god dammit... it was my main deck for the longest time... but now it's just flat out dead... I WILL CONTINUE TO REVIVE HANDLOCK! just you wait... i'll try my very best where trump gave up all together after a few failed attempts!
@ericconnor3728
@ericconnor3728 8 жыл бұрын
I like trump's renolock. That 1st game save xD
@treygrosvenor2079
@treygrosvenor2079 8 жыл бұрын
I made a version of trumps aggro rouge swash deck and it did really well against shaman. The problem was control decks. Once they cleared a couple times you ran out of gas. #letsfixshaman
@oldpoppywasop5038
@oldpoppywasop5038 8 жыл бұрын
I have seen this deck in Batstone some days ago , from Kolendo .
@oldpoppywasop5038
@oldpoppywasop5038 8 жыл бұрын
i noticed that he didn't have Reno , but i believe that his isn't such a big change overall in the deck .
@treygrosvenor2079
@treygrosvenor2079 8 жыл бұрын
having reno where you only have 1 copy of each card isn't a big change to the deck?
@pangkawai258
@pangkawai258 8 жыл бұрын
can someone give me the source about what trump was reading at the start of the video
@ShadowGirl-
@ShadowGirl- 8 жыл бұрын
#31:32 Literally the sound of Trump losing sanity...
@andrzejkulakowski
@andrzejkulakowski 8 жыл бұрын
Dear Trump, just one question - do you consume coffeine? if so how much?
@dragan4324
@dragan4324 8 жыл бұрын
Always nice to see mistaken, naive optimism so callously crushed.
@videotroll72
@videotroll72 8 жыл бұрын
I was playing this deck before trump I also net decked it, so that means many people were too.
@jwmints
@jwmints 8 жыл бұрын
lol. Not long ago ppl were complaining that shaman was the worst class by far, now ppl complain they are much stronger than other classes.
@Lesquidliestone
@Lesquidliestone 8 жыл бұрын
It's amazing how much of a difference a 4 mana 7/7 makes
@xcbzxv194
@xcbzxv194 8 жыл бұрын
Actually it became top tier in TGT and was pretty strong before it.
@snowstorm9818
@snowstorm9818 8 жыл бұрын
yeah, that's cause they were the weakest class, but starting in TGT (totem golem), coming into affect in LOE (tunnel trogg), and showing no signs of stopping in the last two expansions, blizzard has given shaman so many strong cards that they can now basically build a deck of 30 class cards from the last 4 expansions and win. This is actually pretty common for blizzard games; weakest class is given so many good things that they are the new OP, and the new weakest class gets buffed to even stronger, making it essentially a cycle of taking turns being the strongest. Just about every class (except priest) has at this point had a deck that was head and shoulders above everything else (Face shaman, face hunter, miracle rogue, secret paladin, patron warrior, handlock/zoolock, ramp druid, mech mage) so likely in the next few expansions we'll see a few new OP priest cards, and once shaman's core rotates out with 2017 it'll become the new dominant.
@Buchse123
@Buchse123 8 жыл бұрын
Trump: this game wont be won by the leeroy combo. Draws power overwhelming. Would have had lethal.
@relyks286
@relyks286 8 жыл бұрын
we need more loatheb type, mana wraith type cards but better, like neutral cards that say: battlecry: your opponent is unable to play cards that cost less than 3 mana
@relyks286
@relyks286 8 жыл бұрын
true true, but we just need like 3 or 4 more anti-summon anti-spell minions
@mauriceanderson5413
@mauriceanderson5413 8 жыл бұрын
Just more battlecries that kills chosen creature that has 1/2/3 cost.
@Judawi
@Judawi 8 жыл бұрын
I run and practice a very similar deck since while.
@danielduncan6806
@danielduncan6806 8 жыл бұрын
Since a ton of people are going to copy this deck today, I will play an aggressive deck today and win a bunch.
@maxi0361
@maxi0361 8 жыл бұрын
Faceless Manipulator + charge is the new Warsong Commander + patron
@michalszczesniak4801
@michalszczesniak4801 8 жыл бұрын
it's much older than grim patron
@sasas1313
@sasas1313 8 жыл бұрын
except it's not - one is a finisher and the other is abusive board clear
@henkie6170
@henkie6170 8 жыл бұрын
wow. i came up with this deck a week ago, only 3 cards different.
@gambler6428
@gambler6428 8 жыл бұрын
Blizz needs to make cheap late game cards in order for newer players to try out something like control deck, and i know because a lot of people hate to play aggro/face/ midrange /tempo decks but they cant play anything else because of the huge difference in the dust cost of those cancer decks and the fun decks that actually have you using your brain, that needs to change
@Urza26
@Urza26 8 жыл бұрын
A lot of people play aggro just because of the dust cost. Feels like most card games are this way where the control decks require so much real world resources.
@gambler6428
@gambler6428 8 жыл бұрын
yeah that was the point of my comment
@Davesothoth
@Davesothoth 8 жыл бұрын
I wonder where they find all the art in the thumbnail.
@RRod22
@RRod22 8 жыл бұрын
Anyone know a solid replacement for leeroy and jaraxxis ? I don't have either.. :(
@koshi6505
@koshi6505 8 жыл бұрын
So, basically Yogg and Aggro Shaman are the weaknesses of this deck? Sounds like the meta is the cure for this rather.
@JKLCYfriends
@JKLCYfriends 8 жыл бұрын
Trump, "those totems are so kawaii."
@DeadKavaiol
@DeadKavaiol 8 жыл бұрын
8 legendarys just to beat shaman? No! No no no no no no no! GOD! PLEASE! NO! Man I have 50 legendarys, but not most of us do not have even that. If META needs 8 legendary decks to stabileze fuck this META!
@swordsman111982
@swordsman111982 8 жыл бұрын
he complaints are valid, but that is true in alot of paper card games. Magic has on average 3 to 4 top teir decks in their Standard that just crush all others. Modern is a much larger card pool and only has about 5 top teir decks. yu gi oh from my understanding has about 2 decks at top teir. it is not so much a hearthstone problem as a card game problem.
@Cronos804
@Cronos804 8 жыл бұрын
24:32 - that imp should not be frozen
@E-double-L
@E-double-L 8 жыл бұрын
Love that first lethal
@YoXeV
@YoXeV 8 жыл бұрын
Oh no despair. Shamans are the gods of this meta
@yyssahn
@yyssahn 8 жыл бұрын
is this before or after he got 3:0 in a tournament?
@NightHawkXFG
@NightHawkXFG 8 жыл бұрын
21:16 missed Leeroy + Power Overwhelming lethal
@cutpursemasterofdisguise3674
@cutpursemasterofdisguise3674 8 жыл бұрын
He got distracted by the amusement of crushing Shaman dreams.
@foggy9900
@foggy9900 8 жыл бұрын
poor not aggro shaman, you will never be good.
@AuroraBorealis670
@AuroraBorealis670 8 жыл бұрын
We now need a skipperino trumperino
@holyflygon
@holyflygon 8 жыл бұрын
for all the shit people are giving sham decks do they not forget shams have not been this strong in a meta for a very long time and they should be glad its not the normal classes who are always at the top. people hate zoo decks and warlocks and when a deck is made that can beat zoo at its own game the zoo players and everyone else hates the deck more i dont get it
@w1q2e3r4t5
@w1q2e3r4t5 8 жыл бұрын
If any deck is top tier it will get complained about for sure.
@TheDoinkmaster
@TheDoinkmaster 8 жыл бұрын
It's because blizzard has consistently made it that there's always one all powerful deck in the meta, and when people complain they just create cards to make another OP deck
@Gakusangi
@Gakusangi 8 жыл бұрын
It'll only last until the next cycle of blocks and then everyone will find a new class/deck to complain about. Shaman doesn't win 100%, there can be misplays, bad hands and sometimes the other guy just brings in enough "new" to out-tempo them. I would know, I played aggro shaman a few times and got destroyed on occasion by just plain better plays, if you can't keep up the tempo absolutely, the deck gets completely rolled.
@Kavriel
@Kavriel 8 жыл бұрын
Let's rotate the classes who are OP instead of balancing our game.
@franciscoribeiro9307
@franciscoribeiro9307 8 жыл бұрын
It's not just shaman. I think people, myself included are just tired or aggro decks dominating the meta.
@AnakinTheWeird
@AnakinTheWeird 8 жыл бұрын
Trump's conclusion: you should only play Midrange Shaman... Or maybe N'Zoth Warrior. Could play that too. Or Dragon Warrior. Not sure which one...
@K1llerKreal
@K1llerKreal 8 жыл бұрын
I need a RENO! I'm holding out for a Reno at the end of the night :')
@Matthew-lu4sf
@Matthew-lu4sf 8 жыл бұрын
I understand the frustration over Shaman now, but when you consider that last year Shaman was basically trash tier it doesn't seem that bad.
@HalfZatoichi
@HalfZatoichi 8 жыл бұрын
it does, switching cancer classes is not ballance
@domeplsffs
@domeplsffs 8 жыл бұрын
Taking turns on being T1 viable is a very retardet way of 'balancing'.
@TheGreatwhitellama
@TheGreatwhitellama 8 жыл бұрын
Thing is, Shaman back then had powerful cards they were just missing a few small things like a powerful 1 drop and a cheap board clear to transition to mid game and keep their board. 0 mana 5/5 taunts also help I guess. Doom hammer is an old card, but I think it's one of the biggest offenders now that they have such early game dominance. 16 damage burst, 28 damage over 4 turns from 3 cards that collectively cost 7 mana and 2 overload. Absurd.
@MrDGreedy1
@MrDGreedy1 8 жыл бұрын
Any replacements for Chillmaw?
@jordanmuffin9185
@jordanmuffin9185 8 жыл бұрын
Misplay at the end not killing the azure drake with 1 health
@GWOTvetx4
@GWOTvetx4 8 жыл бұрын
Trump on Kripp fan art is the best
@d3s3rtray
@d3s3rtray 8 жыл бұрын
I don't know what idiot at blizzard thought it was a good idea to make cards with synergy from overload. It just means that shamans get full mana efficiency from the next turn mana they pay immediately. Tunnel Trog followed by the 3/4 totem is 5 mana worth of 2 cards on turn two.
@ainoakeisari
@ainoakeisari 8 жыл бұрын
The best president FeelsGoodMan
@Grenade2ThaFace
@Grenade2ThaFace 8 жыл бұрын
"Mayor"
@jibjabby9964
@jibjabby9964 8 жыл бұрын
SCIENCE!
@xXSamir44Xx
@xXSamir44Xx 8 жыл бұрын
I think all this complaining about the meta is just pathetic. There are what, five, six different tier 1 decks? That's more than enough variety for the game to still be fun. Also, Hearthstone is too fast? Maybe it's because I played Yugioh before I started playing Hearthstone, but compared to Yugioh Hearthstone is incredibly slow.
@xXSamir44Xx
@xXSamir44Xx 8 жыл бұрын
***** I never had the problem with the size of the card texts on Yugioh cards and personally I like the fact that it's much faster than other card games. The metagame in Yugioh is fine. There are just way too many salty people whining about "broken" decks, just like there are in Hearthstone.
@partyguyfsu26
@partyguyfsu26 8 жыл бұрын
what is a replacement for Chillmaw?
@dane7164
@dane7164 8 жыл бұрын
what happens when you play brann bronzebeard jaraxxus into sacred trial?
@johnkay1952
@johnkay1952 8 жыл бұрын
Google it
@marlinbundo2409
@marlinbundo2409 8 жыл бұрын
Hint: You still die
@smetc7477
@smetc7477 8 жыл бұрын
You know coin doomsayer might have been the mistake the cost you the game, since you knew it was agro because it played agrent squire. And the it was a better good turn to deny him tempo
@alephansenlightenment8307
@alephansenlightenment8307 8 жыл бұрын
I think what was tricky about that play, is that he didn't have another 2 drop to play on 2. So if he coin-doomsayer'd, turn 2 would've just been Tap-Pass. As it turns out, he did actually topdeck a peddler on turn 2 (so it would've worked out), but Trump wasn't necessarily to know that.
@smetc7477
@smetc7477 8 жыл бұрын
+SolumbraZero yeah I guess that true, I was just kinda put off that day, I would of done it, I guess that why trump is popular, because rarely misplace.
@auraseer
@auraseer 8 жыл бұрын
31:47 RIP people who only watches Trump for Hearthstone Despair
@Cuestrupaster
@Cuestrupaster 8 жыл бұрын
The book wyrm is so awesome!!!! He destroy 3 cards in average...
@hishamalobaid1503
@hishamalobaid1503 8 жыл бұрын
can you give me the name of the deck tracker ? please
@TheGayOverlord
@TheGayOverlord 8 жыл бұрын
these people complaining about shaman realise it was one of the worst classes before the ago shaman deck was developed. like literally bottom along with preist since the begining of hearthstone... so now that it actually has some muscle it's op and broken... yeah okay
@hangman7655
@hangman7655 8 жыл бұрын
Finally an interesting deck!
@ianamburn3151
@ianamburn3151 8 жыл бұрын
10 mana full heal and full clear. OP
@pedrocorrea9048
@pedrocorrea9048 8 жыл бұрын
KKKKK Trump i love you, Br here your introductions are the best
@KoolKarl123
@KoolKarl123 8 жыл бұрын
Hey remember when shaman was the weakest class? This is Karrrmaaa bitchesss
@wingnut240
@wingnut240 8 жыл бұрын
when you're a shaman player before the class got good and now that it can hold it's own, everyone shit's on it... feelsbadman :P
@joeyjoah
@joeyjoah 8 жыл бұрын
"hold it's own" you mean it rolls over everyone else and has no strong counters?
@wingnut240
@wingnut240 8 жыл бұрын
don't get me wrong, it is way too fckin op, but the time of shaman needed to come eventually :P and with the next expansion it will probably be a different classes' turn, i'ma guess priest tbh :P i don't like how blizzard does these things but i'm not gonna complain when the class i enjoy the most goes from trash to god tier :P
@kaioxys
@kaioxys 8 жыл бұрын
Last game should have coined out argus and attacked the horseman.
@ivanvinogradov1375
@ivanvinogradov1375 8 жыл бұрын
3:16 Skipperino Trumperino
@SluggEU
@SluggEU 8 жыл бұрын
21:12 missed lethal :,(
@jared8515
@jared8515 8 жыл бұрын
8:35 Missed free tap
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